The
Humongous Bigfile:
Posting Rules You Never Knew You Had to Follow
and
How to Conform to Them Now That You've Signed Up
We
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[Members MUST
read sections 1 and 2 below, especially if you want to post. They
give vital information about how this group operates and outline our
posting rules, which are
enforced.]
1. INTRODUCTION
1.1
Welcome!
1.2 Legal Issues
1.3 Account Settings and Yahoo
Information
1.4 Getting Started: Finding Your Way Around HPFGU
1.5
List Administration
1.6 Communications from List
Administration
1.7 How to Get Help
1.8 Posting by new
members
2. GENERAL COURTESY, NETIQUETTE AND
HPFGU-SPECIFIC
CONVENTIONS AND POLICIES
2.1 Be Courteous
2.2
Use the Right List
2.3 Quoted Material (Or "When You Reply to
a Post")
2.3.1 Attribution
2.3.2 Snipping
2.4 Keeping
Posting Volume Manageable
2.4.1 Make Your Post Worthwhile
2.4.2
Combining
2.4.3 No Introductory or Me-too Posts
2.4.4 One-Liners
2.4.5 Post Limits
2.5 Spelling, Punctuation
and Grammar (and Proofreading!)
2.6 Subject Headings
2.6.1
Prefixing
2.7 Observe Spoiler Rules
2.8 Failure to Observe
Posting Guidelines
3. OTHER USEFUL INFORMATION
3.1
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
3.2 What All Those Abbreviations
Stand For
3.3 HPfGU's Accumulated Wisdom
3.3.1 Fantastic Posts
and Where to Find Them
3.3.2 Recommended Posts Database
3.4 The
Files, Polls, Links, Database, Photos Sections
4. OTHER AREAS
OF ONLINE HARRY POTTER FANDOM: RESOURCE SITES
5.
ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
1. Introduction
1.1
Welcome!
Welcome to Harry Potter for Grownups (HPfGU)! The purpose
of this group is to
provide a fun, friendly, interesting place for
adults to enjoy in-depth and thought-
provoking discussion of the
Harry Potter books.
Before you dive right into the
discussions, we require that you read this document, which
provides
important information about participating in this group (including
our posting
rules in section 2), as well as our Most
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ).
Most
of our members are over 18 and they hail from all around the world
and all walks
of life. Mature teenagers may enjoy the group, but
we cannot, for legal reasons, accept
members under the age of 13.
We are a large group (over 20,000 members), and
typically between
50 and 150 messages a day are posted.
1.2 Legal Issues
By
posting on any of the HPfGU lists, you agree to adhere to the Yahoo
Terms of Use.
Further, in so posting, you also grant the HPfGU
List Administrators the license to use,
distribute, reproduce,
modify, adapt and publicly display such post(s) for the purposes
of
providing and promoting the various HPfGU groups and
sites.
Links to electronic texts (e-texts) of any Harry Potter
book and any file containing the
audio versions of the books or
the movie(s) may violate the Yahoo TOU, so please do not
post any
or we'll have to delete the post. It's also a copyright violation to
reproduce
substantial portions of any article or book, but you can
post links to them.
Material posted to other forums is also
copyrighted and may be forwarded to HPfGU
lists only if the post
states that the express permission of author has been granted, even
if
the author also belongs to HPfGU. Otherwise, you can provide a
link.
1.3 Account Settings and Yahoo Information
When
you join a Yahoo Group, you are automatically set to receive
individual messages,
so if you prefer something else make sure to
change this by going to the homepage of the
group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups
and clicking on "Edit My
Membership."
More
details about the different settings and helpful information about
Yahoo can be
found
here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin_Files/Yahoo_Help_File
If you have any questions, feel free to e-mail your List Elf,
or e-mail the list
administrators directly at
HPforGrownups-owner@yahoogroups.com.
1.4
Getting Started: Finding Your Way Around HPfGU
HPfGU has four
main groups:
HPforGrownups (the "Main List") is for
discussion of the HP books (i.e., the
'canon'):
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups
HPFGU-Movie
is for discussion of the HP
films:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-Movie
HPFGU-Announcements
is for announcements of new sites, merchandise, fanfic
updates,
etc.:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-Announcements
HPFGU-OTChatter
is for off-topic discussion of just about anything; any questions
or
discussion about how to navigate JKR's
website should go
here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter
HPfGU
also has several auxiliary groups:
HPFGU-Convention, where you
can learn about HP conferences and other
gatherings:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-Convention
HPfGU-Feedback,
a forum for discussing list policies, administration, and
technical
issues. You need special approval to join this list (to
verify that you're a member of
HPfGU). Follow the instructions on
the HPfGU-Feedback home
page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-Feedback
Various
regional groups, so that list members can arrange meet-ups. Links to
these can
be found in the Links section on the main list, in the
Regional HPfGU Lists
folder:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/links/
HPforGrownups-Archives,
which contains all the messages which would not fit in the
Messages
Section of YahooGroups, including messages from our old Yahoo Club.
Thanks
to Paul Kippes for the wwwizardry involved. :-) These zip
files can be downloaded to
your hard drive for keyword
searches.
HPforGrownups-Archives (YahooClubs, YahooGroups
0-31999):
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups-Archives
HPforGrownups-Archives
II
(32000-52999):
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups-Archives2
HPforGrownups-Archives
III
(53000-82999):
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups-Archives3
HpforGrownups-Archives
IV (83000-107999):
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups-Archives4/
All
these groups and more can be found through our
Portkey:
http://www.hpfgu.org.uk/P.html
You'll
note that some of the groups have "HPfGU-" at the front,
while others have
"HP4GU-" or even "HPforGrownups-".
We're sorry – they were created by a variety of
people and
are not standardized. Oops. Our bad.
Sunday Chat: We have a
weekly chat on Sundays from roughly 2 pm US Eastern (7pm in
the
UK, 11am US West Coast). To get to the party, simply go
to:
http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574
Enter
a user name for yourself, enter the password: hpfguchat and then
click “Join Chat”
on the lower right.
1.5 List
Administration
The List Administration Team, aka the List
Elves, is collectively responsible for all
administrative and
policy decisions governing the entire HPfGU community.
A list
of the current and former elves can be found in the Admin Files
folder; the file is
entitled "List
Elves":
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin_Files/
1.6
Communications from List Administration
Onlist messages from
the list elves will always have the prefix "ADMIN" in the
subject
line, and they will be signed by a list elf on behalf of
the list elves team. The list elves use
Admin messages primarily
to announce new policies and other matters of interest
to the
HPFGU community, and to issue periodic reminders of our posting
guidelines.
Please read and adhere to these messages. Of course,
list elves are also list members, and
do participate in the
discussions as themselves, fellow list members, not as list
elves.
Members should not query or discuss an Admin message
onlist. If you have a question
or comment about an Admin message
or any policy, please contact the list elves
at
HPforGrownups-owner@yahoogroups.com
or post about it on the Feedback list.
The list elves also
send messages offlist to members, for example, to welcome
new
members, answer members' questions, provide posting guidance
for new and old
members, and send howlers. These are also official
communications and will be signed
with the list elf's elf name on
behalf of the list elves team. Make sure that you regularly
check
the email account you used to join the group.
1.7 How to
Get Help
Simple. Email your personal List Elf, who will have
contacted you within a couple of
days after you joined or write to
the admin team at
HPforGrownups-owner@yahoogroups.com.
Help
Desk: We want all of our members who wish to post to be able to do so
without it
being a burden, but we realize that our standards for
spelling and grammar might be
problematic for some. So, we offer
members with any issues that might make posting
difficult (such as
dyslexia, visual impairments, English as a second language)
the
services of our Help Desk. The Help Desk would be happy to
proofread your posts, or
help work out the best way for you to
participate fully in our community. If you think
you could benefit
from their help, please contact them at
HPforGrownups-owner@yahoogroups.com.
Please,
use these resources. List Elves love getting mail. Contact us with
anything you're
not sure about. Technical problems. Book
questions. Legal issues. If we don't know, we
can find out for
you. Really, email us!
1.8 Posting by New Members
To
help members adjust to our list's unique posting conventions, all new
members start
out on "moderated" status. This means that
your first few posts will automatically take a
detour to our List
Elves. One of the elves will review the post to make sure it is
formatted
correctly and conforms to the posting guidelines before
sending it on to the main list.
The elves may make some minor
edits to your post, such as correcting typos, adding a
signature,
fixing the subject line, snipping extraneous quoted material, etc.
Please make
sure to look at your post when it's reached the list
and make note of any edits made; an
elf may also contact you to
explain any edits made to your post. The substance of the
post
will never be changed, but if you'd rather we not make any edits,
please let us know.
The elves may instead return your post to
you with a note of explanation so that you
may make the edits
yourself. Please don't be offended; this is quite normal as we
realize
that our posting conventions are a bit unique and may take
some getting used to.
Sometimes a post will appear on the list
that's a lot like a post that was sent back to you.
That doesn't
mean the elves are selectively enforcing the rules. When
unmoderated
members violate list rules, the infractions are
addressed offlist after the fact.
As we do return posts or
contact people offlist about their posts, please keep an eye on
your
email account, especially while you're still on moderated status and
especially if
your posts are not showing up on the
list.
Sometimes a list elf will add an "Admin Note"
(a short comment) at the end of a post; this
doesn't mean there's
anything wrong with the post, usually it's a reminder directed
to
readers of the post. For example, "Though this post is
on-topic, please remember when
replying that OT subject matter
should be sent to HPfGU-OTChatter."
Moderated status also
applies to the OTChatter, Movie, and Feedback lists. All posts to
the
Announcements list are moderated; please note that this group is not
a discussion
group, but serves as a "community bulletin
board". Please also note, the posting rules
below in Section
2 apply to all our groups.
2. GENERAL COURTESY, NETIQUETTE
AND HPFGU-SPECIFIC
CONVENTIONS AND POLICIES
Our posting
conventions may be summarized as ordinary netiquette (courtesy to
your
fellow group members) plus a few quirks that we think are
particularly worthwhile in our
community.
The goals of our
list rules are:
- To facilitate fun and intelligent adult
discussion of the Harry Potter books.
- To foster an atmosphere of
mutual respect for other list members.
- To make it as easy as
possible to follow and keep up with our very busy list.
Please
observe the following:
2.1 Be Courteous
Do not flame,
send obscenities or spam, engage in other discourteous, disrespectful
or
illegal behavior or discuss list policy onlist (send comments
to
HPforGrownups-owner@yahoogroups.com
instead). We welcome debate, but do not attack or insult other list
members.
If you disagree with someone's message, no matter how
strongly, please respect the other
person's right to his or her
own opinion. Cite canon to support your arguments and give
chapter
references; when expressing an opinion (as opposed to citing canon)
or other
beliefs (e.g., religious) be sure to make this clear ("I
believe..." or "In my opinion...").
If you do
wish to argue against the post, do so by building up your own case,
rather than
just knocking down the other person's. Your post
should advance the discussion and not
merely repeat arguments
you've already made. There is no need to have the last word in
a
discussion. Difficult as it is, when faced with irreconcilable
differences, list etiquette
means it is better to walk away.
Also
consider how other members of our diverse international community
might react to
your post and remember that sarcasm can be
difficult to convey in written form. When in
doubt, save your
message overnight and reread it in the light of dawn.
2.2
Use the Right List
Put on your Sorting Hat and send your posts
to the correct list.
All posts to the main list should discuss
the "canon," that is, the written works of JK
Rowling.
Discussion of information about the books and characters provided by
JK
Rowling in her interviews or website is also permitted.
Posts
that discuss the movies should go to HPFGU-Movie, including posts
that use the
movies to make a point about the books or that use
the movies as a jumping-off point for
canon discussion. Any post
that does not discuss the books or movies (such as how to
navigate
JK Rowling's website) should go to HPFGU-OTChatter. Posts that
announce
or publicize other websites, groups, fics, etc., should
be made to HPFGU-Announcements.
2.3 Quoted Material (Or
"When You Reply to a Post"):
Please write your post
*below* the quoted material (quoted material is the content
from
another post you are replying to).
"Top-posting"
is not permitted, as members find it very frustrating to read your
response
without understanding what you are replying to. Also,
top-posters almost never
remember to snip the quoted material (see
2.3.2 below).
2.3.1 Attribution
Please identify the
author of quoted material at the beginning of the quote.
When
replying to a post containing comments from more than one
person, make sure you
attribute each quote to the proper
person.
Please preface your comments with your name or handle
(for example, "Snapeskitten:")
or sign your posts at the
bottom with your name or pseudonym – it helps people
quoting
you to properly attribute your comments to you. Do not use
"Now me:" as readers of
down-thread responses may have
difficulty properly attributing your comments. Finally,
leave some
blank space between the quote and your comments.
Please
clearly indicate quoted material by using chevrons or angle brackets
[>], which
Yahoo and many e-mail programs insert automatically;
or by putting quoted material
between quotation marks.
2.3.2
Snipping
People do not like to have to scroll through acres of
irrelevant material to find the part
you're replying to (not to
mention your new comments!) so please snip (delete) all
quoted
material, leaving only the minimum necessary for others to
understand your reply. This
basic consideration helps those with
slow internet connections and bandwidth concerns.
Snipping
properly can be trickier than it sounds, though, so here are some
additional
guidelines:
You should assume that anyone
reading your response has already read all of the other
messages
in the thread, so it is not necessary to reproduce the gist of the
entire thread in
your reply.
If you've quoted more than a
paragraph without inserting a comment of your own, or if
the
quoted material is longer than your own remarks, you probably haven't
snipped
enough.
If you are using Yahoo's automatic
attribution feature (which happens when hitting
"reply"
to a message), please make sure to remove any unnecessary
information,
including names of people who are not being quoted in
your message. Don't forget to
delete Yahoo footers and ads at the
end of the post.
As both attribution and snipping can be
confusing at first, we ask that before you post to
the list you
first read our Formatting Tutorial, which can be found in the Admin
Files
folder in the Files section on the main
list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin_Files/
2.4
Keeping the Posting Volume Manageable
To help keep our posting
volume manageable, please do the following:
*read the entire
thread before posting, and don't merely repeat what's already been
said
*combine all responses on the same topic into a single
post
*limit your posting volume to no more than five a day
*don't
post a one-line response
*don't post to ask a simple factual
question
*send comments like "me too!" or LOL!"
offlist, or cleverly insert them into a longer, more
substantive
post
*don't post anything that violates the TOU (see section
1.2)
2.4.1 Make Your Post Worthwhile
The best posts
are not just written; they are constructed, with an introduction,
argument,
supporting evidence from canon, and conclusion. We
strongly encourage posters to take
their time writing posts, and
to consider before posting whether the post will add
anything new
to the discussion or merely repeat things that have already been
said.
Before starting a new thread, check to see if there has
been a similar discussion in the last
few weeks.
2.4.2
Combining
Read the entire thread before posting, and combine
all responses on the same topic (even
if they are in different
threads) into one post. To do this, you can simply copy the
quotes
you're responding to into an email as you read through the
threads, holding off posting
until you're finished. Also, Yahoo's
threading function often fails to pick up all the posts
in a
thread, so please also check the subject headings of recent posts
before responding.
2.4.3 No Introductory or Me-too Posts
Don't post just to say "Hi, I'm Melanie from Wisconsin."
We do want to get to know you, but conventions have to be adjusted for
a list that gets an average of 10-20 new subscribers each day. Instead,
include your introduction within your first substantive post, or post it
to OT-Chatter.
Similarly, do not post just to say "great post!" or "me, too!" (even
if it takes you three paragraphs to do it). Onlist compliments are
welcome, but only as part of a substantive response. If you have
nothing to add, please send your compliments offlist.
2.4.4 One-Liners
The HPFGU standard is
for members to submit substantive posts; therefore, one-liners are
strongly discouraged. Off-topic and "me too" one-liners are not
allowed, just as lengthier off-topic and "me too" posts are not allowed.
We recognize that the occasional canon-supported or humorous
one-liner has its place, but don't forget that a one-liner counts against
daily posting limits.
2.4.5 Post Limits
As a
courtesy to other list members, please try to limit your posting
volume to no more
than five per 24 hour period. Although this is
not a strict daily limit, please observe it as a
guideline, as
excessive posting is a violation of posting rules.
During
times of increased activity on the list, the List Elves may decide to
reduce the
posting limit again to 3 per day. If this action is
taken, an Admin (or Special Notice) will
be posted to announce the
change.
2.5 Spelling, Punctuation and Grammar (and
Proofreading!)
Use standard English grammar, standard
spelling, capitalization, and punctuation. Bear
in mind that HPFGU
members come from many countries, and some speak English as a
second
or third language, making it imperative that all members use standard
English.
This includes using capital letters at the beginning
of sentences, "I" when referring to
yourself, and proper
names. Periods should be at the end of sentences, commas in
the
middle to show phrasing, and question marks at the end of
questions. Please restrain
yourself from using multiple
exclamation marks or question marks.
* Never use all lower
case letters or, worse still, all CAPITAL LETTERS. It is
visually
jarring and using all caps is considered SHOUTING!
*
Do not use netspeak. Some common abbreviations are fine (the "btw,"
"iirc," "afaik"
type) but using numbers or
single letters for words ("2" for "to", "u"
for "you", "r" for
"are", etc.) are
not.
* Please write with paragraphs, separating each of them
with an empty line (like this
section). This "white space"
makes it much easier on the eyes, as it is exceedingly
straining
to read long blocks of unbroken text.
* Before hitting the
'send' button, please take a few minutes to look over your post
and
correct any typos, spelling/punctuation errors, or problems
with sentence structure or
capitalization. This will make it much
easier to read and help in getting across your point.
If
you're used to forums where speed is important (chat rooms, role
playing games, etc.),
it's easy to fall out of the habit of
proofreading. Here, however, your post will be as
relevant in
twelve hours as it is now.
2.6 Subject Headings
Use
appropriate subject headings so that others can find the topics that
interest them
most (e.g., not "Digest 5000," and not
"Snape's greasy hair" if the topic has changed to
"Lupin's
gray hair"). Not everyone has a good threading function on their
e-mail. If you
are combining responses to more than one post,
please change the subject heading to
reflect that (e.g., House
Elves/Hogwarts Plumbing/Evil!Albus).
2.6.1
Prefixing
We've found that some topics provoke a strong
reaction. Some people run screaming at
the sight of them, while
others can't get enough. As a courtesy to other readers, please
use
the prefixes listed here.
FILK: for HP song parodies
SHIP:
Canon-supported speculation about romantic relationSHIPs between
the
characters
TBAY (Theory Bay): HPfGU's wild and wacky
role-playing posting style, featuring
cyber-action role-playing
(CARP) using fictional settings such as Theory Bay and/or
extended
metaphors to make a canon point. For more information and
examples,
visit Hypothetic
Alley.
2.7 Observe Spoiler Rules
If any spoiler
rules are in effect, observe them. Also, please be considerate
when
revealing spoilers from other works (such as The Lord of the
Rings), keeping in mind that
many members will not have read those
books.
In other words, observe basic netiquette and the
conventions of the list. If you're not sure
of either, ask your
List Elf or contact the Admin Team at
HPforGrownups-owner@yahoogroups.com.
We lives to serve, sirs and misses!
2.8 Failure to Observe
Posting Guidelines
We all make mistakes from time to time, and
occasional lapses, such as spelling and
grammar errors, will not
earn anyone detention.
However, ignoring our netiquette or
posting conventions will result in an offlist
reminder. Repeated
violations or more egregious ones, such as personal attacks on
other
list members, or doing anything that could be construed as
illegal, will result in an offlist
Howler. Receiving too many
Howlers could result in you being placed back on
moderated status
or even losing posting privileges.
Offlist communications are
sent to the email account you used when you joined HPFGU,
so be
sure to check this account regularly. If it appears from your posts
that you have not
read or heeded our reminders, we will add a note
to one of your posts asking you to
contact us; if you do not, we
will have to suspend your posting privileges as a last resort
until
we hear from you.
For security reasons, we will place anyone
who sends spam or viruses to the list on
moderated status
immediately. If this was inadvertent on your part, please let us know
so
your privileges can be restored.
3. Other Useful
Information
3.1 Frequently Asked Questions
HPfGU has
put together a list of answers to Frequently Asked Questions. Please
read
them before posting. They can be found
here:
http://www.hpfgu.org.uk/HPfGU_FAQ_.html
and they are also available in
the Admin Files folder in the Files
section of the main
list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin_Files/
3.2
What All Those Abbreviations Stand For
We've collected a list
of the most common abbreviations used at HPfGU, including
internet
abbreviations, HP abbreviations, fanfic terms, emoticons -- and put
it into a
separate file called HPfGU_Abbreviations.txt which can
be found in the Admin Files
folder in the Files section on the
main
list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin_Files/
And
don't forget to check out Inish Alley where you'll find a complete
list of acronyms
coined by HPfGU members to memorialize their
favorite theories. This can be found in
the Database section on
the main
list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/database
3.3
HPFGU's Accumulated Wisdom:
3.3.1 Fantastic Posts and Where to
Find Them
HPFGU's Fantastic Posts is a series of topical
essays based on the great posts of
yesteryear. They cover a wide
range of topics, from JKR to the HP world to the
characters, books
and fans. All members should read them – they're witty,
entertaining
and informative (low-calorie, too!).
http://www.hpfgu.org.uk/faq/
3.3.2
Recommended Posts Database
As a supplement to the Fantastic
Posts essays, the two Recommended Posts database
tables (pre- and
post-OOP), found in the Database
section:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/database
contain lists of posts identified
by various readers as great
posts. We welcome nominations from all our members. If you
read a
really thoughtful and well written and/or groundbreaking post that
you think
everyone should read, drop us a line at
HPforGrownups-owner@yahoogroups.com.
3.4
The Files, Polls, Links, Database, Photos Sections
Lots to be
found in these sections, ranging from excellent essays, old contests,
pictures,
photos of list members, film locations, possible
geographic locations for places in the
books and all sorts of
other things. Check out our polls, where you can register
your
opinions on a variety of topics, and wander through the
Database section where we have
a number of tables you might like.
Loads of links to other places around the HP fandom
in the Links
section, too. All can be found via the lefthand menu of the
group's
homepage:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/
Be
sure to check out these sections in the OTChatter and Movie groups,
too.
4. Other Areas of Online Harry Potter Fandom:
Resource Sites
You'll often see various websites and forums
referenced at HPfGU; these are excellent
resources to draw upon
for the discussions:
J.K. Rowling Official Site
http://www.jkrowling.com
- If you thought JKR was cool before,
you should see what she's
doing for her fans! Frequently updated by The Woman
Herself, this
web site contains interesting tidbits, trivia, rumor-squashing, news
items,
and canon clues.
The HP Lexicon
http://www.hp-lexicon.org
-Winner of JKR's Fan Site Award July 2004,
the Lexicon is produced
by HPfGU member Steve Vander Ark and is perhaps the most
complete
resource to the Harry Potter books apart from JK Rowling (and she
admits to
using it sometimes when writing away from home!). It
deals only with facts from the
books and interviews, and not
speculation. It's a truly fantastic work and should be read
by
every fan.
The Leaky Cauldron
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org
- A news site for everything HP;
JKR is known to frequent this
site.
Quick Quotes http://www.quick-quote-quill.org
- A great tool for searching all the
transcripts of JKR interviews
that are posted online.
5. Acknowledgements:
Various
incarnations of this document have been written and coded by Amy Z,
Debbie,
~Joy~, Kelley, Maria, Queer as John, and Wendy, with many
contributions, blatant
nickings, and edits from various sources,
including list elves, poltergeists, and Members
Like You.
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