gypsycaine says, my perfect weight!

 gypsycaine says, kewl

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 hert0661isme says, I need to do some more running and lose half a stone

flying_ford_anglia says, ...and I'm a lot more than that but, enough about me...

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 hert0661isme says, My dad is over 50, 2 inches taller than me and 1/2 stone lighter!

peeves23 says, how many pounds to the kg?

catlady_de_los_angeles says, We were talking about Jeremy's music, but no one wants to speak about Ron's ideal career as singer-songwriter.....

siriusgeologist says, hi heidi

dejavu112 is away (be right back)

 hert0661isme says, 2.2 pounds to a kg

heiditandy says, oh good = people are still here

catlady_de_los_angeles says, Wel;come back, Heidi

flying_ford_anglia says, er....5.45 to KG I think

 hert0661isme says, no I am a ghost!

peeves23 doesnt think Ron could hack it as a singer-songwriter... not enough presence. Or Somethign

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heiditandy says, my son is walking around putting paperclips in things.....so I'm just watching him.

flying_ford_anglia says, Simon is right

peeves23 says, yes, 5.45 sounds a bit over-enthusiastic.

heiditandy says, brb

 hert0661isme says, 5.4kg to a stone?

 gypsycaine says, VCRs and pb&j's.... lol

flying_ford_anglia says, It could be - that figure is there somewhere

siriusgeologist says, you were mentioning draco dormiens when you left...did you like?

triner2001 says, I would have been here earlier, but I fell asleep

 hert0661isme says, I have only read 1 and a little bit chapters!

catlady_de_los_angeles says, Ron is tall and red-haired: couldn't he LEARN stage presence?

 hert0661isme says, seems ok so far - will read more this evenign and tomorrow

triner2001 says, and only wok up when the Duddercat knocked a picture frame off the bookcase

peeves23 says, well, maybe

 gypsycaine says, his red hair has been a blight. He's more a behind the scenes man.

peeves23 thinks of self age 14... shudder. best not go there, really...

peeves23 says,

flying_ford_anglia says, Anyone remember Jamie Bell - once touted as harry?

peeves23 says, um, maybe. I hope I can learn it...

flying_ford_anglia says, for the film...

peeves23 says, isn't Jamie Bell the guy in the ballet movie?

 hert0661isme says, his film has just been released!

triner2001 says, Yeah, what about him, Neil

flying_ford_anglia says, That's right

flying_ford_anglia says, I heard him interviewed and his voice has broken!

peeves23 says, lol

 hert0661isme says, Is Gabreil Thomson (also mentioned) the one that is in that 'comedy' My Family?

flying_ford_anglia says, He was playing 11 in the film, but he's 14

 hert0661isme says, His voice had seriiously gone!

triner2001 says, 'Good thing he's not Harry now!

flying_ford_anglia says, Hmmm - dunno

siriusgeologist says, I like the kids they picked

flying_ford_anglia says, Jamie Bell would be a good Oliver Wood though

 hert0661isme says, I am not sure about teh relative heights!

catlady_de_los_angeles says, Ron wants to get some glory that neither his brothers nor Harry had gotten first. One does not get glory as 'behind the scenes man"

triner2001 says, so do I, they seem to fit my imaginary people

 gypsycaine says, i do too, carole.

flying_ford_anglia says, Julie Walters is also in Billy Elliot (that's the name they've given this film)

heiditandy says, did someone just ask me about draco dormiens?

flying_ford_anglia says, She's been cast AS Hooch apparently

 gypsycaine says, but an actor/singer are "selling" their bodies.

siriusgeologist says, i did

 hert0661isme says, I heard Stephen Gately mentioned!

peeves23 says, as who!?

heiditandy says, what were you saying? missed it sir-geo

heiditandy says, (can you say that without the hypen? it becomes a name...)

flying_ford_anglia says, Yes...a cameo for Stephen G?

siriusgeologist says, did you likeit?

 hert0661isme says, I am not sure - maybe just to provide some music

triner2001 says, So has anyone heard the rumor that Book 5 won't be out till November so it will coincide with the film?

peeves23 says, am distrustful of gately - his solo career seems like a rather cheap-cash in on his coming out...

heiditandy says, loved it - I went back over the mesages to the list while I was working on a faq, and I think I was hte first person to tell the list about it

flying_ford_anglia says, I think they should release it before the film...

peeves23 says, or maybe I'm just cynical and evil

 hert0661isme says, all the books before the films if you want my opinion"

flying_ford_anglia says, He was outed though

catlady_de_los_angeles says, Maybe ther real reason it wont be out until November is so that JKR can take a little time off to have a vacation, the first she's had in yearss

heiditandy says, herty - I agree with out.

peeves23 says, really?

siriusgeologist says, maybe I read it cause of you then...I also enjoyed it and have chatted a good deal with cassandra

 gypsycaine says, has anyone "searched" yahoo yet, and saw the flyer artwork for the movie?

flying_ford_anglia says, He came out, because The Mirror was going to leak the story

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heiditandy says, gypsy - is that hte blue poster that says Magic Will Happen?

triner2001 says, The Scolastic site does say July, but evidently there's a rumor flying about that it'll be later

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 gypsycaine says, yes

heiditandy says, I've been emailing with cassandra a lot recently too - she came u p with a great plot!

heiditandy says, I want one of those posters to add to my son's room decorations

 gypsycaine says, i will be in tears if it's postponed, but i do understand.

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 hert0661isme says, going off track - has anything been decided about an e-group for the fan fiction?

 gypsycaine says, print one out?

flying_ford_anglia says, They are giving themselves the option of doing it later

heiditandy says, i will only be upset if it's postponed because of the film - if it's done because jkr wants it to be done later, then fine.

blaise_42 says, oh, I hope they do make one, I'm not so fond of these lists focussed on just one fanfic

heiditandy says, No, if I print it it won't match up with the rest of the stuff

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 gypsycaine says, ah

siriusgeologist says, Lori invited cassandra to post on the PoU list...thats as far as its gone...

triner2001 says, I agree with you Heidi, if it's cuz of the movie, I'll growl till November!

heiditandy says, If someone starts a "good fanfic" group, I will sign up the day I get the info!

 hert0661isme says, I may be in the big wide world of work by then - scary thought!

flying_ford_anglia says, What do you want to do with yourself, Simon/

flying_ford_anglia says, ?

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 gypsycaine says, i "will" be working....

 hert0661isme says, I liked the do the discussion on PoU - it would be helpful if this happen if people put an indicator in the subjectg line for which story

heiditandy says, or if there was a way to sort on fanfiction.net by reviewer, it wouldn't be so necessary - I would just look for works reviewed by people I trust!

 hert0661isme says, Not sure yet - a visit to teh careers service looms!

heiditandy says, or to sort by number of reviews, so those with 50+ reviews would come up on top

 gypsycaine says, Heidi, that might not be a good thing, though.

blaise_42 says, number of reviews is a silly way to judge the fics

 gypsycaine says, you'd end up with the "Summer of Harry Potter." and such.

peeves23 says, must leave

 hert0661isme says, bye

blaise_42 says, so many not-very-good ones have tons of reviews because they're contravertial or whatever

 gypsycaine says, bb

heiditandy says, gypsy = which wouldn't?

catlady_de_los_angeles says, bye-bye

flying_ford_anglia says, Cheery bye

 gypsycaine says, # of reviews...

heiditandy says, I know it's not hte way to judge, but it would help to sort, at least a little.

 gypsycaine says, (all negative, lol~)

catlady_de_los_angeles says, controversial fic: WHY do people who think homosexuality is "gross" even READ a slashfic?

 hert0661isme says, I will have a look at the FAQ, when it is done

blaise_42 says, have no idea. all the flamers for Boy's Own Camping Adventure were hilarious

peeves23 says, ...just checkinmail

heiditandy says, catlady - are you sure they read it & don't just review it as soon as they see the summary?

peeves23 says, firecross was the best

blaise_42 says, hehehe

flying_ford_anglia says, I don't have time to read loads of fanfics, so some guidance is welcome

triner2001 says, I haven't cheked out any fanfic yet

catlady_de_los_angeles says, Ebony was supposed to be writing a column to recommend good fanfics. Whatever came of that?

blaise_42 says, she never heard back from the guy in charge of the columns apparently

 hert0661isme says, I was dead against it until I read some of PoU and it was proved that soem people can write good stuff

triner2001 has been playing with the coustom color option

heiditandy says, why doesn't anyone ever do a mary sue where mary sue turns out to be evil?

blaise_42 says, the range of fanfic is very very broad, and the good stuff is pretty good. the bad stuff is terrible

 gypsycaine says, Summer of Harry Potter had everyone having sex with everyone else.

 hert0661isme says, Ebony is contributing to the Fanfic FAQ - more details when Penny (I think) has writen it!

flying_ford_anglia says, I've enjoyed PoU and ASA, but I'm not convinced about fanfic as an idea...

peeves23 says, someone did a mary sue where the mary sue got raped, which is VERY worrying

heiditandy says, is that different than the Spring Break w/ Brittney Spears one?

blaise_42 says, fanfic is a really odd idea

triner2001 says, I did see the Harry meets Britney Spears story

peeves23 says, I am not here. goodbye

blaise_42 says, bye

flying_ford_anglia says, Mary Sue - can someone explain that to me?

catlady_de_los_angeles says, bye again

peeves23 says, sleep well, everyone whos goign to sleep any time soon. anyone else, sleep well later on.

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flying_ford_anglia says, I've forgotten

heiditandy says, yikes - probably not a healthy plotline

blaise_42 says,

flying_ford_anglia says, Okay..

 gypsycaine says, bb

catlady_de_los_angeles says, Mary-Sue is a story in which the main character is te author's wish-fulfillment self

flying_ford_anglia says, Sabrina is mates with Britney and SHE's a witch

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catlady_de_los_angeles says, My friend in junior him j

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blaise_42 says, not only that. she has to be more or less perfect, get a major character to fall in love with her and save the day regularly

dejavu112 says, Mary-Sue is the perfect new girl who falls in love with the hero, has a 'past' or special powers and the like, is usually from the united states

heiditandy takes out her Sabrina Welch's Grape Jelly Glass from 1973...

blaise_42 says, normally in HP she takes the form of a 'transfer student' from the usa

triner2001 says, I was at the pet store the other day and thought of Scabbers when I was looking at the rats

flying_ford_anglia says, Okay - so I can't be Mary-Sue then...

heiditandy says, were any skipping rope with their tails?

catlady_de_los_angeles says, My friend in junior high's Mary-Sue was so beautiful that she looked like a model even without makeup, and was the daughter of a Starfleet Admiral.

 gypsycaine says, someone recommended if I am getting hamsters/gerbils/g-pigs, I should look at a rat instead.

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triner2001 says, No, they were all sleeping

flying_ford_anglia says, Is there a male equivalent - or is this a girl thing?

 gypsycaine says, Marty Sam?

dejavu112 says, lol

catlady_de_los_angeles says, Mine in those days was an ensign from a felinoid race of telepaths -- I think that character was actally used when the animated Strek came along

siriusgeologist says, gotta go get dinner with the kids...see ya

blaise_42 says, Harry Su, I think...

 gypsycaine says, lol

flying_ford_anglia says, Seeya Carle

catlady_de_los_angeles says, Bye Bye carole

flying_ford_anglia says, Carole

heiditandy says, ok - gotta go again - harry & aaron are back from the park...

 gypsycaine says, ok.

 hert0661isme says, byr

siriusgeologist says, bye

 gypsycaine says, bb!

 gypsycaine says, and bb!

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heiditandy says, see y'all later....

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catlady_de_los_angeles says, bye bye heidi

flying_ford_anglia says, Ta ta!

triner2001 says, Need to do some housework--could use some house-elves here

 gypsycaine says, i just want one elf.

flying_ford_anglia says, I really should read all the new messages - anything I can skip from the last wEEk or so?

 gypsycaine says, i'd be willing to feed it...smiles.

flying_ford_anglia says, Elfinism!

triner2001 says, I rather skimmed all of the messages this week

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 gypsycaine says, i am just running into the "must we copy the whole post and then answer at the END of it again thing.

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 gypsycaine says, it's quicker when your response is at the top.

flying_ford_anglia says, I don't want to read anything too challenging

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triner2001 says, I know-- that really annoys me

 hert0661isme says, Avoid the stuff on abuse then!

flying_ford_anglia says, Okay

triner2001 says, I think some people have frgotten this is a fantasy novel, no matter how much we love it

flying_ford_anglia says, I think Ron has got some airtime for a change...am i right?

blaise_42 says, yes

flying_ford_anglia says, Hmmm - putting the world to rights etc?

catlady_de_los_angeles says, what about Ron? airtime?

blaise_42 says, nobody ever thinks that the reason some things happen is Plot Device

flying_ford_anglia says, Has he been discussed a bit recently?

triner2001 says, Abuse does happen , but to apply real life horror into these novels is going a bit too far

flying_ford_anglia says, We dig a little too deeply i think -

catlady_de_los_angeles says, Whether he will die, whether he will betray Harry

 hert0661isme says, I do not think I helped on that debate!

catlady_de_los_angeles says, whether he and Hermione belong together

 gypsycaine says, (Neil knows that one...lol...)

triner2001 says, That rather awful possible ending to the series

 hert0661isme says, Yes (but I hope not), no and yes!

flying_ford_anglia says, Right...

 gypsycaine says, I am not speaking on that subject Simon...

 hert0661isme says, Which one Dee?

 gypsycaine says, abuse. chuckles. we got into a big discussion as in via post.

flying_ford_anglia says, JKR is using comedy and drama to good effect, but she's not writing a political manifesto

 hert0661isme says, People did rather jump at my comments over that!

flying_ford_anglia says, ...is she?

triner2001 says, exactly Neil

catlady_de_los_angeles says, Well, Simon, I don't doubt your good intentions, but I don't agree with your posts on abuse

 hert0661isme says, That was basically what I was trying to say - people where trying to apply real life situations to the HP series

 gypsycaine says, that's why I am abstaining from discussing ic.

triner2001 says, Well the whole abuse topic has gotten way off topic

 hert0661isme says, it is heading back on it

triner2001 says, Which is Harry

flying_ford_anglia says, Hmmm - I'll have fun reading through that then

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blaise_42 says, well, that is one of the neat things about the books, they provide a wonderful platform from which to start discussions

catlady_de_los_angeles says, JKR, according to the interviews, has been a lefty political activist all her life and named her daughter after her hero, Jessica Mitford

flying_ford_anglia says, It's a question of contrasts, that's all.

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 gypsycaine says, i would love to hear a description of her husband.. (black, unruly hair, and green eyes?)

flying_ford_anglia says, Classci rags to riches type of thing, but mental and physical gain as well as money in the vault.

triner2001 says, I suppose I could start a debate over her depiction of a person who stutters with Quirrel

catlady_de_los_angeles says, JKR has said in interviews that she must depict evil as being as disgusting as it really is, for teaching the readers

triner2001 says, But since I am the only speech therapist in the group (that I know of) I'd only be arguing with myself

catlady_de_los_angeles says, And she has said in interviews that she is always against any form of bigotry and discrimination

catlady_de_los_angeles says, Are you SURE that her history of the big events in the wizarding world ISNT a political manifesto?

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 gypsycaine says, lol

catlady_de_los_angeles says, I think Quirrell was the DADA teacher for several years before he went to Albania and met up with Voldemort

 gypsycaine says, that's one of the comments I made Rita.

 gypsycaine says, i think so too.

catlady_de_los_angeles says, I think he didn't stutter before meeting up with V (Hagrid said something about the poor fellow's nerves having been shaken)

 hert0661isme says, I got the impression that he was a research student - using Hogwarts libary (which seems quite good)

triner2001 says, I do too, catlady, but was he disfluent prior to meeting Voldy?

blaise_42 says, ack, my comments don't seem to be coming through...

catlady_de_los_angeles says, What is disfluent?

blaise_42 says, oh, now they are, how odd...

 gypsycaine says, why give someone deathly afraid of the DA the DADA position?

triner2001 says, another word for stuttering

catlady_de_los_angeles says, I thnought he was studying DADA (at graduate level) WHILE teaching at Hogwarts

blaise_42 says, well, because JKR needed him in that position

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 gypsycaine chuckles.

triner2001 says, No one wuld suspect the nervous, stuttering teacher

blaise_42 says, exactly

catlady_de_los_angeles says, I think Quirrell didn't stutter before meeting V. I wonder if the stuttering was caused by nerve damage due to having V on the back of his head?

triner2001 says, and Everyone would blame/suspect Snape

blaise_42 says, as we were led to do

 hert0661isme says, I still blame Snape!

flying_ford_anglia says, Okay...I'd better be off. See you all later . Well, 'see' you all

dejavu112 says, But wasn't it all an act?

blaise_42 says, ah, Snape's remarkable... why do you blame him?

catlady_de_los_angeles says, bye bye Neil

blaise_42 says, bye, neil

 hert0661isme says, bye!

triner2001 says, I trust h im about as far as I can thow him, I keep my eye on him

triner2001 says, Bye Neil!

dejavu112 says, bye

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catlady_de_los_angeles says, I heard that JKR said in an interview that Snape still could go either way, good or evil

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blaise_42 says, yes. I'd trust him, though

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 gypsycaine says, ack. Ian's acting up on my lap.

catlady_de_los_angeles says, Trust him to keep his word ... after having a lawyer check his word for loopholes

catlady_de_los_angeles says, ?

triner2001 says, LOL catlady

 gypsycaine says, (ian=3 year old)

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blaise_42 says, I wouldn't trust him to treat anyone well, or to be kind, but I'd trust him in the grand sweeping actions of the book to do the right thing

blaise_42 says, and I don't think he's a liar or somene who twists his words too much

triner2001 says, If he ver does a nice thing for anyone, I'll fall over in a dead faint

dejavu112 says, I lI'll kick him for being ooc

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 gypsycaine says, lol

triner2001 says, I'd like to see McGonagall do more in the fight though

blaise_42 says, yes, she's a rather neglected character

triner2001 says, ooc?

blaise_42 says, out of character

triner2001 says, I like her, she has so much potential

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blaise_42 says, she's a bit on the two-dimensional side in the books, but if you look really closely there's the possibility for a lot more

catlady_de_los_angeles says, IN GoF, when Harry became 4th champion, and Karkaroff and Mme. Maxime shouted at Dumbledore, Snape said his piece about Harrry is alwasys braking rules

heiditandy says, I'm back but not very attentive (sorry)

 hert0661isme says, Harry does break the rules - even Dumbledore says this (end of CoS)

catlady_de_los_angeles says, and 'Don't go blaming Dumbeldore for harry's misdeed", was he sticking up for Dumbledore (a nice thing to do) or just taking the opportunity to bad mouth Harrry

blaise_42 says, both

blaise_42 says, at least, that's how I read it

catlady_de_los_angeles says, If he was sticking up (*disclaimer*) for Dumbledore, that would be an argument in favor of the Du/Sn -- who suggested that?

blaise_42 says, but I was looking for signs that Snape really is loyal to Dumbledore

catlady_de_los_angeles says, And I just don't believe in Du/Sn

blaise_42 says, Du/Sn is not a good thought

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heiditandy says, too singificant an age difference - people should never go out with people who are more thasn 50 years younger - look at anna nicole smith

catlady_de_los_angeles says, Welcoem back!

princessspinnet says, hi all

catlady_de_los_angeles says, Age difference and one is the other's direct boss

gypsycaine says, (son's dominating lap...

blaise_42 says, not just the age difference ... I can't see how there can be any chemistry between them and I have a really hard time imagining Dumbledore in any kind of relationship

princessspinnet says, Dumbledore and McGonagall, I presume?

blaise_42 says, Snape

triner2001 says, Well all I'm going to call it a night

triner2001 says, bye

blaise_42 says, good night

catlady_de_los_angeles says, I believe that Dumbledore has been celibate for a long time, as part of the cost of being a Great Wizard

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princessspinnet says, *Snape* and Dumbledore?

blaise_42 says, yes.... horrible thought, isn't it?

gypsycaine says, bb

princessspinnet says, Oh, my....

catlady_de_los_angeles says, Someone suggested it on the egroup, with the intention of rattling our cages, but when we argued against it, she kept arguing for it.

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catlady_de_los_angeles says, I can't remember who

blaise_42 says, me neither

dejavu112 says, Getting into the lovely realm of slash I see

gypsycaine says, not i

blaise_42 says, well, some slash relationships are cool but that one has no potential that I can see

princessspinnet says, there are so many pairings in the HP fandom that it's impossible to keep track

catlady_de_los_angeles says, On the one hand, why not slash?

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catlady_de_los_angeles says, On another hand, there are plenty of suggestions of 'mixed doubles' as well

catlady_de_los_angeles says, but on the third tentacle, is it just heterosexual females who like male/male?

princessspinnet says, forgive my naivete... what do you mean by 'mixed doubles'?

blaise_42 says, there seem to be a lot of het. females writing slash...

catlady_de_los_angeles says, I've always liked to call 'activities' of one man and one woman 'mixed doubles', named after tennis. Unfortunately I don't have an equally obnoxious term for same-sex

gypsycaine says, pairs?

gypsycaine says, (Ian's gotten down for the time being... the keyboard is mine, again...)

princessspinnet says, okay

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princessspinnet says, interteam play?

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catlady_de_los_angeles says, inTRAteam play?

blaise_42 says, hehehe

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princessspinnet says, oops, that's what I meant... too much time spent studying biology, ironically.

catlady_de_los_angeles says, People would be REALLY confused if I called slash "intramurals"

blaise_42 says, people, starting with me

princessspinnet says, lol

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blaise_42 says, I mean, I know what intramural means but I can't see the connection...

princessspinnet says, maybe "playing the home games"....

gypsycaine says, (justin's term, lol)

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catlady_de_los_angeles says, (partial change of subject) back earlier when we were avoiding discussing feminism to avoid another feud, I started to say

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catlady_de_los_angeles says, that I have a problem writing "reviews" on some stuff (such as why het F like slash) because I would have to say something about men and women behaving differently in certain situationst

gypsycaine says, well, most men I know like seeing 2 women getting it on...sighs.

blaise_42 says, and you're worrried that people would bite your head off?

catlady_de_los_angeles says, And if I were to say something like that where people don't know me, I would have to spend twice as many words explaining that I only mean in CERRTAN SITUATIONS

princessspinnet says, I have a problem writing reviews in general... but i see what you mean. what irritates me is how much some men will hate and decry homosexuals but are turned on by 2 females getting it on.

catlady_de_los_angeles says, I'm the one who is constantly arguing that that saying that two-thrids of boy students and one-trhird of girl students score above the median on math aptitude

blaise_42 says, it's one of the less attractive things about the internet that you have to spend ages wording what you say so that your meaning always gets across correctly

catlady_de_los_angeles says, does not at all mean that the one BEST math student can't be a girl

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catlady_de_los_angeles says, and so on

blaise_42 says, I often enjoy writing reviews in general...

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catlady_de_los_angeles says, It is a cliche that het M like fictions depicting two women having hot sex, because they get to see twice of what they want to see

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catlady_de_los_angeles says, Bye-bye Sue, I hope we didn't scare you off

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catlady_de_los_angeles says, twice as much of what they want to see and NO MALE RIVAL,

blaise_42 says, it may be a cliche but is it true?

catlady_de_los_angeles says, but that the sex depicted is not very accurate of what two women would be doing if they weren't performing for an audiencce

blaise_42 says, chuckles

catlady_de_los_angeles says, My domestic partner, a big fan of pornography, does love 'lesbian' stories

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blaise_42 says, well, a number of the people writing male/male on hpslash are lesbians

catlady_de_los_angeles says, And the slash I like is generally the chance to 'experience' twice as many men I want being erotic and no female rivals.

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blaise_42 says, so you'd argue against women liking romantic and mushy m/m slash?

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 hert0661isme says, Goodnight all (or good afternoon if more appropiate) - I am off to get some sleep

blaise_42 says, 'night

catlady_de_los_angeles says, NO, that was one of the things where I would have to say that men and women in this culture have different feelings -- women, including me, tend to like mush stuff, people who verbalize about feelings

blaise_42 says, aha. yes, I agree with you, I think

catlady_de_los_angeles says, people who cherish their lovers as people, not just as interchangeable sex partners

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blaise_42 says, yes. Simon is reminding me that it's getting on towards midnight and I ought to go to bed

catlady_de_los_angeles says, So, you know, since Kirk and Spock cherish each other (and apparently no one else), they should be the lovers, not them two as best friends each picking up random girls in bars for sex

catlady_de_los_angeles says, Okay, you can go away. the delay was me typing that long sentence

blaise_42 says, am not familiar with Star Trek, I'm afraid... can see what you mean

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blaise_42 says, would say the same about Remus/Sirius

blaise_42 says, anyway, good night

catlady_de_los_angeles says, yes.

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catlady_de_los_angeles says, Okay, I'll leave too. It's time and my Tim wants to check something on Netscape

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gypsycaine says, heidi?

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