gypsycaine says, angel of dreams

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, where;s the F

 gypsycaine says, her nickname is angie.

€ Aberforths_Goat says, Feldibrand Flitwich, Basil Binns

 gypsycaine says, how about Beverly Binns?

€ Aberforths_Goat says, He had a sex change?

 gypsycaine says, (watched Man ...Dinner last night)

flying_ford_anglia says, Feldibrand? that's a new one!

€ Aberforths_Goat says, = burning field

flying_ford_anglia says, Dusty Binns?

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Beverley, and Shirley, and Clare, and Jordan, were boys' names long before they were girls' names. Jordan switched over in my lifetime

flying_ford_anglia says, I see...

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, I've met a few girls named Jeremy, but I don't think that one has switched over yet

 gypsycaine says, i liked the line in the play where Maggie asks Beverly a favor, and then says she's naming her firstborn after him. He answers he hopes it's a girl

flying_ford_anglia says, I've never seen a female Jeremy -

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, There was also a girl in my college class whose given name was Kennedy, but I am SURE that will remain non-standard

flying_ford_anglia says, Ken for short?

+ p_dumbledore says, Seem to recal some actress with first name Kennedy

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, The latest chapter of DRACO SINISTER ws posted in the last couple of days. Of course, it is wonderful, but it includes a Portkey (we were speaking of Portkeys a moment ago)

flying_ford_anglia says, Reagan is also a girl's name - well, Regan. Any girls called Bush?

flying_ford_anglia says, Spoiler alarm - i haven't read those Draco fanfics!

€ Aberforths_Goat says, who wrote 'em?

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, I imagine that Regin and Regan are forms of Regina, Reyna, Rhiannon

flying_ford_anglia says, Regan was in King Lear

 gypsycaine says, there's a book by Johanna Lindsey with a character who's called Regan in it.

flying_ford_anglia says, daughter of the king, I guess

 gypsycaine says, only one uncle calls her that, the rest call her Regina.

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Bush is a vulgarism for female genitalia, which is why Mondale choosing Geraldine Ferraro as VP candidate led to the joke that both tickets had a bush for VP

flying_ford_anglia says, Ooooh!

flying_ford_anglia says, I always laugh at Tipper Gore's name - Tipper?

changeling_de says, How tasteful!

flying_ford_anglia says, Does she tip rather heavily in restaurants or something?

€ Aberforths_Goat says, Err, does Tipper mean something I shoudn't know about?

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, DRACO SINISTER is the sequel to DRACO DORMIENS. Both are by Cassandra Claire. Both are wonderful. I can't give you a latest chpater spolier, as I don't remember what the Portkey were used for

changeling_de says, Can you guys name kids just anything?

+ p_dumbledore says, Texas Governor Hogg, named his daughter "Ima"

 gypsycaine hands fizz a portkey, to help

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, I only remember that it struck me as inappropriate to put the characters through a whirlwind that would slam them on the ground upon arrival, which is the GoF descriptio of Portkey

flying_ford_anglia says, I guess we can call kids what we like - especially other people's kids..

€ Aberforths_Goat says, ACtually, I belive the U.S. has some laws about allowed names

flying_ford_anglia says, The French have strict rules

+ p_dumbledore says, Or grabs you in the middle and jerks you off to the site

 gypsycaine says, there are some names, you avoid.

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Yes, Americans can name kids just anyone: there are no laws restricting first names.

 gypsycaine says, some names just are too obscene tho.

€ Aberforths_Goat says, Including vugarisms??

+ p_dumbledore says, like "moon unit" Zappa, or

flying_ford_anglia says, I think anything goes in the UK

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+ p_dumbledore says, Dwezel

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, People made jokes claiming that Ima Hogg (the first name is from her motehr's favorite poem by Tennyson IIRC) had sisters named Ura and Shesa

changeling_de says, Our (German) magistrate just threw a fit about the name Francesco the other day.

fizzwhizbee says, Laws would vary by State in the US

€ Aberforths_Goat says, He? Why?

€ Aberforths_Goat says, What's wrong with Francesco?

flying_ford_anglia says, Paula Yates' kids - Fifi Trixiebell, Peaches and Tigerlily... hmmmm

 gypsycaine says, LOL

 gypsycaine says, that's a funny one.

 gypsycaine says, after the San Franscisco thing?

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, There aren't any major laws restricting people changing their surnames, either

changeling_de says, Not a name "in use" in this area. But the guy was close to retirement.

 gypsycaine says, (must give SF royalties if you use their name)

flying_ford_anglia says, I saw that story - there were about 19 names they had to consider - for one child!

+ p_dumbledore says, Saw Movie Trekkies Yesterday, guy changed his name to James T Kirk

changeling_de says, Probably wanted to block some "dangerous innovations" before he left office.

€ Aberforths_Goat says, You gotta have thousands of Francescos living in D!

flying_ford_anglia says, Some guy who shot a TV presenter over here changed his surname to Bulsara

flying_ford_anglia says, ...after Freddie Mercury's real name

changeling_de says, But they're Italian. His argument, not mine.

 gypsycaine says, i recognized that name..

 gypsycaine says, lol

 gypsycaine says, My fav band.

 gypsycaine looks over to Innuendo sitting beside CRr.

flying_ford_anglia says, He was nuts about Queen - and shot Jill Dando - who, ironically, presented Crimewatch UK.

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 gypsycaine says, it doesn't make sense...

 gypsycaine says, that kind of lunacy.

 gypsycaine says, i have to wonder, though.

 gypsycaine says, how many folks have changed to "Harry Potter"?

flying_ford_anglia says, You can't prevent crimes of lunacy

€ Aberforths_Goat says, Does that include politicians?

fizzwhizbee says, Harry himself named after the young Prince?

flying_ford_anglia says, You can stop them in mid-flow... like Milosevic

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Anyway, a Dictioanry of First Names website that I checked SAYS " CORNELIUS (m) Meaning unknown, from a Roman family name. It may contain the Latin element

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, cornu "horn", or the Greek element helios "sun".

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, I don't know if that's true -- I don't recall hearing of any old Roman Cornelii, only medieval "German" ones. Is it [also] a Latinization of a German name, like Neander ofr Neumann (yes, I know that's Greek) and Linneaus for von Linne?

flying_ford_anglia says, There was a French poet called Corneille - whose characters were often "torn between duty and passion"

changeling_de says, Our Cornelius doesn't seem to be passionate about anything.

flying_ford_anglia says, We don't see him being passionate, but behind closed doors...

fizzwhizbee says, Cornelius has nightmares about that street full of Muggles he saw blown up

changeling_de says, I don't even want to think about that! ;.)

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, There is a patron saint in Brittany whose name I do not recall who is patron saint of betes cornues. The book from which I got that indicates that the pun works better in french, where it is not necessary to decide whether to translate that Horned Animals or Horny Animals

flying_ford_anglia says, Is Fudge corrupt or stupid... or scared. Or all of the above?

€ Aberforths_Goat says, I somehow don't think he's corrupt

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Did Fudgie SEE the street of blown up Muggles?

 gypsycaine says, who knows....sighs.

fizzwhizbee says, He was in the clean up crew, he says in the pub scene

 gypsycaine says, they are prolly saying Sirius is joining Voldie, if he's back...

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flying_ford_anglia says, Is he... unhinged, perhaps. Stressed out.

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Fudge is at least unconsciously corrupt: he fawns on Lucius Malfoy "fine old family ... large donations to excellent charities"

changeling_de says, Stupid doesn't fit either.

fizzwhizbee says, Fudge desperately wants the situation to be one he can cope with...he's a wishful thinker

€ Aberforths_Goat says, Rita: in that sense yes--but I don't think of him a a bribery target

flying_ford_anglia says, Fudge behaves like a politician, in short.

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, If he, Fudge, is conscious that he Lucius is buying him off with money and an the opprotunity to rub shoulders with the upper classes, then he is consciously corrupt

flying_ford_anglia says, No, he's misguided, out of his depth

fizzwhizbee says, I remember reading about Uk post WWII when Churchill lost power

fizzwhizbee says, People wanted a less competent person in office...Churchill scared them

flying_ford_anglia says, He must have some merit... otherwise, why would he have been made Minister of Magic? Or is he a useful puppet of malfoy and VoldemorT?

fizzwhizbee says, Could be the same situation post Voldie...people thought they were safe, so okay to have

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Churchill was an exceedingly excellent national leader for Wartime, but it is not at all clear that he was a good national leader for peacetime.

fizzwhizbee says, a bumbler in office, Catlady, that is my point

 gypsycaine says, or he has a pushover attitude, and Lucius (and the other De's) wanted him in place, just in case, so they "helped"

flying_ford_anglia says, Yes - a weak leader suggests someone working him/her from behind like a ventriloquist.

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, I think Great Britain was lucky that Atlee, was it, allowed India to go independent instead of resting into a Vietnam (French, American) / Aghanistan (Soviet) / Chechnya (Russian) scenario

€ Aberforths_Goat says, Well. it's time for me to call it quits. I've been working like nuts for the last 10 days or so and now have 1374 unread messages in my HP4GU mailbox. Phew!

fizzwhizbee says, But Dumbledore does that too (tries to influence Fudge behind the scenes)

flying_ford_anglia says, See you soon Mike

fizzwhizbee says, Bye Mike

changeling_de says, The strong leaders weren't standing in line for Fudge's job.

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Bye, bye, Goat, I hope we didn't scare you off with Churchill

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€ Aberforths_Goat says, We goats don't like guys who smoke cigars ...

€ Aberforths_Goat says, tata!

flying_ford_anglia says, Dumbledore was the one they wanted for the job - hardly a pushover.

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 catlady_de_los_angeles says, There may have been a very limited number of competent (I'm not sure that 'strong' is automatically good) leaders available after the Dying Times

fizzwhizbee says, That they wanted Dumbledore is just Hagrid's take on it...

flying_ford_anglia says, Okay

changeling_de says, Wonder why Dumbledore didn't take it.

 gypsycaine says, perhaps the ones who opposed Lucius/co. wanted AD.

 gypsycaine says, he's more interested in training the upcoming.

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Dumbledore thought he was more needed, more valuable at at Hogwarts. Educating the next generation and trying to influence them to the Light Side

 gypsycaine says, perhaps, even, he knew HP was going to need him soon, and he decided that if ...exactly.

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Observing every wizard and witch in Britain throught seven formative years

flying_ford_anglia says, Dumbledore needed to be at Hogwarts to guide Harry - more useful there...

 gypsycaine says, That's sorta where I was going.

flying_ford_anglia says, We were all singing from the same hymn sheet there

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Being in the place the most guarded against Dark Wizards, hopefully not needing to be last bastion against Dark Side, but you never know

flying_ford_anglia says, Hogwarts is a sort of fortress against the Dark Side...

fizzwhizbee says, Hogwarts *Was* the last Bastion against the DS according to Hagrid

flying_ford_anglia says, They teach Defence Against the Dark Arts - why not just Dark Arts?

changeling_de says, But wouldn't he have been more useful in a place where he could actually go after Voldy's remaining supporters?

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Guiding researchers to study Defense Against Dark Sides, with emphasis on defeating Dark Wizards

fizzwhizbee says, "dangerous is is to study too deeply the Arts of the Enemy, for good or for ill"

flying_ford_anglia says, He can be where he needs to be..

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, researchers -- discovering or inventing new defenses

fizzwhizbee says, Hogwarts is not as impenetrable as Harry would like to think, is it?

flying_ford_anglia says, You have to know you enemy to defeat it though

flying_ford_anglia says, your enemy, that is

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, It's not clear that Minister of Magic CAN go after V's remaining supporters -- we saw the trial of Bagman. Bagman may well have been innocent so the verdict was just.

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, But my point is that Barty Crouch (Sr) couldn't get Bagman convicted even tho' he wanted to and Moody sitting beside Dumbledore thought he should be convicted.

fizzwhizbee says, Dumble didn't ask Fudge to round up any suspects.

flying_ford_anglia says, Nowhere is safe, but Hogwarts is at least thinking of defences...

fizzwhizbee says, He asked Fudge to can the dementors and send envoys to the giants

changeling_de says, He can clean out his own stable, i. e. the Ministry. I bet there are lots of "Sleepers" Voldy can fall back on there.

 gypsycaine says, Rita, following your train of thought... Quirrel , we discussed was a researcher. Do you think that's why AD hired him for the DADA?

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, No reason to believe that Dumbldore could have gotten Lucius Malfoy convicted even if he were Minister of Magic

fizzwhizbee says, Dumbledore doesn't want people send to Azkaban on suspicion

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, No reason to believe that Dumbldore could have gotten Lucius Malfoy convicted even if he were Minister of Magic

fizzwhizbee says, IMHO

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, I think Q was DADA teacher for years before getting co-opted by V.

flying_ford_anglia says, They play by different rules than those set in law... a sort of power struggle

 gypsycaine says, now Arthur would LOOOOVE to send Lucius to jail!

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, I think he probably believed in goddness until he was too strongly tempted

fizzwhizbee says, Until he wanted to learn too much

flying_ford_anglia says, I have to go - this was a brief visit. Talk to you all again soon...

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, But he was probably a perfectly fine DADA teacher until then

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Bye-bye, Neil

fizzwhizbee says, Bye Neil

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+ p_dumbledore says, later Neil

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 gypsycaine says, phooey. That's what I get for multitasking.

changeling_de says, Oops, look at the time. Tomorrow's a work day. Bye all!

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 gypsycaine says, (waves to the phantom Neil who later checks the scroll in CS!)

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, bye, bye changeling

 gypsycaine says, bb!

 gypsycaine says, nice to meet you!

fizzwhizbee says, bye

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, I don't think Quirel's temptation was that he wanted to learn too much. He went to do some fieldwork fighting vampires and werewolves....

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, (leave that for readers to suppy their own comments)

fizzwhizbee says, Yes, things he couldn't learn at Hogwarts

+ p_dumbledore says, I guess I'll bail out too... Working on writing a manual, and need to get it done by tomorrow. later All !!

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, bye-bye dennis

fizzwhizbee says, Bye Dennis

+ p_dumbledore says, Been another good one !! See ya next weekend

 gypsycaine says, good night dennis!

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 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Things that he learned out of books, but wanted to check if the books were accurate

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Maybe he even wanted to be helpful to the endangered locals, or at least get a little fame back home (like Lockhart)

 gypsycaine says, and instead he finds Voldie.

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Yes, V, a Tempter

fizzwhizbee says, Or he thought he could take Voldie on

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, and he had, let's say, steeled his nerves against fleeing in fear from monsters trying to claw him to bits

 gypsycaine says, do you think he knew Voldie was there?

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, and he'd steeled his nerves to resist being seduced by veelas, sirens, all that type of danger

fizzwhizbee says, He could have wanted to check out some rumours

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, and against eating the enchanted food or stealing the enchanted jewels, or being bought off with real Galleons, all the mistakes made by the losers in fairy tales

fizzwhizbee says, Dontgonearthecastle!

 gypsycaine says, took a sec, Fizz.

 gypsycaine says, lol

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, But he had not sufficiently steeled his nerves to resist somewhat more subtle temptations -- how gloriously he would be admired if he got cozy enough with V whom he had accidentally dicscovered to bring back news of how to kill him...

 gypsycaine says, and of course, they always do, or whatnot .. (speaking of which, going to see BW2 this month)

fizzwhizbee says, Have you read Carpe Jugulum? (

fizzwhizbee says, Terry Pratchett

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, There is a huge book of standard motifs for fairy tales around the world. One of the standard plots is the hero who does exactly what he was warned not to do, with the intention and result

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, of killing the monster lurking there who is a danger wo his people

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, or of bringing back to his people the treasure (e.g. domesticated plants for agriculture) that is guarded by that monster

fizzwhizbee says, Yes, so Quirrel wasn't wrong to try...but he should have brought some backup

fizzwhizbee says, He should have brought a sidekick to arrange to rescue him at the last minute <g>

 hert0661isme says, I have read CJ

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 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Maybe the temptation to learn more and more and more ... as people working to develop nasty germ warfare thinking only of the satisfaction of solving this puzzle on this interesting bacterium

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Maybe having the simplistic belief that goodness is always rewarded knocked out of him by a detailed review of the venality (if not actual Death Eating) of the current leadership that he was brought up to respect

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, and the unrequited sufferings of good people

fizzwhizbee says, Could be, but Dumbledore is Quirrel's boss, not Fudge.

fizzwhizbee says, There doesn't seem to be a lot of venality on display at Hogwarts

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, I suppose Voldy could fake some venality of Dumbledore's as plausibly as revealing some authentic venality of Fudge or other respected figures

fizzwhizbee says, MMM, interesting.

fizzwhizbee says, Maybe Quirrel felt, with V gone, he would never get a chance to show off

fizzwhizbee says, He could have wanted to do something spectacular like defeat Grindelwald

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 gypsycaine says, how old was Quirrel?

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 gypsycaine says, I keep thinking of him as young.

fizzwhizbee says, We only know he is young

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Hagrid called him young

 gypsycaine says, to hagrid, everyone's young.

 gypsycaine says, including Sirius

fizzwhizbee says, At the beginning of SS, Sirius *is* young

 gypsycaine says, Hagrid's at least 50, though +3 years of Hogwarts. aka 13+50

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fizzwhizbee says, Harry seems to think Quirrel is young too

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 catlady_de_los_angeles says, 63 in book 2 = 50 years ago, he was 13

fizzwhizbee says, So 52 at the beginning of book 1. Maybe there is an older Sirius Black (Padfoot's daddy?)

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 gypsycaine says, why do you say 52?

fizzwhizbee says, Um, Harry is one year old 11 years before he's twelve in the CoS. I hope. Can you tell I flunked

fizzwhizbee says, fourth grade map

fizzwhizbee says, math, sorry

 gypsycaine says, Hagrid states in CoS, he was expelled 50 years ago, in his third year

 gypsycaine says, that puts the expulsion at age 13

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 hert0661isme says, But to do that calculation you have

 gypsycaine says, (give or take)

blaise_42 says, hi

fizzwhizbee says, hi

 hert0661isme says, assume he was 11 when he started

 gypsycaine says, so you add those 50 years to the 13.

 hert0661isme says, Hello

 gypsycaine says, you get 63

 gypsycaine says, HI!

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blaise_42 says, whose age are we calculating?

 gypsycaine says, Hagrid

blaise_42 says, aha

 gypsycaine says, assuming he is like the other students, and entered at 11.

fizzwhizbee says, Originally, Quirrel's age

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 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Hi, Blaise, oodles of people have been in and out, discussing everything from Drivers License exams to how did Voldemort seduce Quireell into serving him

fizzwhizbee says, I think we can assume he entered at eleven because of what he says in GOF

fizzwhizbee says, But, JKR chronology is too tricky. I fall back on Beorn's standby:Wizards count differently than other people

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, And that a Portkey is shown in the very recently posted latest chapter of DRACO SINISTER

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fizzwhizbee says, Love DS! But how could Hermione cast a spell blindfolded? Agggh!

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, I don't even remember what it was used for, only that it struck me as inapproriate for the characters to be hurled through space to a crash landing, as Portkeys are depicted in GoF

blaise_42 says, blasted computer...

fizzwhizbee says, Portkey in Ds used to transport our heroes to Charlie Weasley's camp

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Great way to treat a compound complex fracture!

fizzwhizbee says, Doesn't anybody know the Ferrula spell Lupin used in PoA?

fizzwhizbee says, To splint Ron's broken leg

 gypsycaine says, not off the top of my head.

fizzwhizbee says, I wonder what you learn in a Wizarding first aid class?

 hert0661isme says, ferula

blaise_42 says, he just says 'ferula'

 gypsycaine says, (ss is sitting beside me, the rest are in the bedroom)

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Draco's broken leg -- that's how Cassandra got him drssed in black leather

 hert0661isme says, I was not impressed!

blaise_42 says, he broke his leg getting into black leather trousers?

fizzwhizbee says, LOL

blaise_42 says, (I haven't read it...)

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Simon: not impressed by the black leather?

 hert0661isme says, It did nothing for me!

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, it didn't make you laugh your head off?

fizzwhizbee says, You hadda be there

blaise_42 says, Hi!

peeves23 says, hi

peeves23 says, caroline

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, I made a noise that caused Tim to come into the room saying: "Are you coughing up a hairball?" but by then I was laughing to hard to answer him

fizzwhizbee says, HI

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Hi, HJeremy

peeves23 says, hi, everyone else who's names I have forgotten

peeves23 says, *whose

 hert0661isme says, Hello

 hert0661isme says, Not at all - now if hermione or ginny had been wearing it then maybe it would have been a different story!

peeves23 says, wearing what

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Earlier, when listed names (such as Beverly and Shirley) that started as boys' names turned into girls' names, I mentioned that I've known a couple of girls named Jeremy, but don't think that that name has actually switched over

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Draco wearing black leather in the latest chapter of DRACO SINISTER

 hert0661isme says, black leather

 gypsycaine says, (comes back, sees the name Cassandra, and scrolls up the screen quickly, to avoid seeing any spoilers.

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, It's okay, Dee, we haven't really said any spoilers

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 catlady_de_los_angeles says, A simple fracture is when the bone is broken but the pieces of the bone are still in their correct place. It doesn't have to set in place before being splinted becaus it is already in place

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, I can never remember which is compound and which is complex, but one of them, I think complex fracture, is when the bone is not only broken but the pieces have moved to places that they should not be

peeves23 says, if she's scrolled up, she won't be able to see that we havent said any spiolers

peeves23 says, spoilers

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, that must be set in the right place before being splinted

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, And the other one (compound?) the broken pieces have broken out through the skin, so there is great risk of infection.

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fizzwhizbee says, And ruined trousers!

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Even if the bone didn't break out through the skin, the trousers would be cut off for the medics to get at the broken leg

 gypsycaine says, yes, i know compound. A compound fracture of the wrist makes typing very difficult.

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, and because medics like ruining people's clothes

 gypsycaine says, but soltaire isn't so bad.

 gypsycaine says, (didn't ruin clothes cause was wearing dress (potholed knee)

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Dee, is compound the one that the bone breaks out through the skin? or is that complex?

 gypsycaine says, a simple fracture is a break

 gypsycaine says, compound is the one you can see the bone.

 gypsycaine says, I still have the scar (and twinges)

 gypsycaine says, so I go into the computer field, lol~

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, So I imagine that any wizard who'd gotten half-a-dozen OWLs could magically splint a simple fracture (Ferula!, as someone just quoted)

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 catlady_de_los_angeles says, but treating compound or complext would take more knowledge or anatomy, more powerful healing spells, more innate magical power, or all of the above

 gypsycaine says, a compound needs manually adjusted back into place.... (shudders at the memory, since the Morphine had no effect whatsoever except upsetting her stomach)

fizzwhizbee says, They really should have immobilized the break before moving him

 gypsycaine says, that was when I discovred I couldn't take Morphine

fizzwhizbee says, using the ferula spell, or just boy scout methods

 gypsycaine says, (never rollerskating in skates that are from '82, in a skirt, on a hill, and try to catch yourself with a parked mini-van)

 hert0661isme says, Do we have to discuss such things?

 gypsycaine says, (and miss, slamming into the back end instead of grabbing the mirror)

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, I don't know whether it would have hurt any less if the bone pieces were adjusted back into place by pointing a wand at them and saying a magic word ... what is Latin for "to your assigned places!"

 gypsycaine goes over and comforts Simon.

 gypsycaine says, I used to work in x-ray, dear...

 hert0661isme says, Thanks!

 gypsycaine says, before I decided to get out of that field. I understand, but the stories I could tell!

 gypsycaine says, here's a tame one...

 gypsycaine says, man comes in via ER

 hert0661isme says, One of my friends, who is studying medicine, keep telling me similar graphic stories!

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Dee, if you HAD caught the mirror, wouldn't it have just broken off, leaving you still speeding out of control?

 gypsycaine says, there's a huge lump in his pants and the nurses are afraid to use the scissors on him, to avoid cutting into his pants.

 gypsycaine says, (I think that might have been what happened....)

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, And eventually they do cut off the tight trousers and find that the lumppants

 gypsycaine says, one nurse decides to try.

 gypsycaine says, it's a piece of summer sausage taped to his leg.

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, lump is a extra large Hebrew National salami scotchtaped to his thigh

 gypsycaine says, must have occurred in other hospitals?

 gypsycaine says,

 gypsycaine says,

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, It was in the newspapers (he had dislocated somethings trying to show off at a disco) while I was working in Century City, which was Nov '78 to April '80

 gypsycaine says, we have had hamsters, candlesticks, and a few very graphic things that might interested.

 gypsycaine says, interest some, but won't interest simon.

peeves23 is interested.

 gypsycaine says, (it happened at TMMC)

 hert0661isme says, Is it safe to return now?

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, I heard about the hamsters not until I working working in New Jersey, which was something like June '81 to Aug '84.

 hert0661isme says, I will just take a back seat for a min or two while you tell such tales!

 gypsycaine says, ok

fizzwhizbee says, I have to go...nice meeting you all. Bye!

 hert0661isme says, bye

 gypsycaine says, bb~

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, bye bye Pippin

blaise_42 says, bye

 gypsycaine says, ~~~~~~~~~graphic warning for simon~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

peeves23 says, I heard a great story about hamsters

peeves23 says, but you probably don't want to hear it

 gypsycaine says, One night, a doa comes in, shot ...

peeves23 says, after you, tehn

 gypsycaine says, the pathology couldn't find the bullet.

 gypsycaine says, the man weighed about 400-700 pounds, I don't know, I didn't see the skeleton.

 gypsycaine says, Just the garbage bag full of his stomach that they sent down to x-ray to see if the bullet is in his fat.

 gypsycaine says, meanwhile upstairs, now that all the fat is gone, they located it in the spinal column!

 gypsycaine says, (a black large trash bag, btw.

peeves23 says, eck

 gypsycaine says, it was Amy's most digusting case, and as student, of course, I had to assist....ick0

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, That wasn't about hamsters

 gypsycaine says, the most stupid was the decapiated motorcyclist who they wanted a brain x-ray on.

peeves23 says, hamsters:

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Altho' it did remind that my college Bio 101 (Freshman Bio) textbook said that defecation is not necessary to life, citing as example

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, some man whose anus was blocked by a tumor, and from whom they eventually surgically removed 150 pounds of excrement.

peeves23 says, this is quite revolting, and almost certainly untrue

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, People who read the archive chat will hate us for talking like this

 gypsycaine says, lol

peeves23 says, these two men enjoyed having hamsters sniffing about their, er, bits, which they did by use of a long toilet tube

peeves23 says, and one day, the, er, hamster, got, er, lost

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, Did the hamsters survive?

peeves23 says, and the other guy bent down to attempt to find it, using a cigarette lighter...

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, That's something no one ever includes in these stories about hamster kinkiness

peeves23 says, and ignited some intestinal gas

 hert0661isme says, I think these chats will need a rating put on them before they can be uploaded!

peeves23 says,

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, maybe Dee can edit the saved chatscripts in Word Pad and convert the disgusting parts to a simple cipher like A=B. B=C, etc.

 gypsycaine says, i am sorry, but I (LOL) upload both R and PG/G?

 hert0661isme says, LOL

 hert0661isme says, Heavy editing needed!

 gypsycaine says, sorrry... cont. but what is a toilet tube?

peeves23 says, toilet roll tuybe I mean

 gypsycaine says, oh that's bad!

 hert0661isme says, Should Jeremy be asked to leave as this must be 18+ chat!

peeves23 says, I'm the one doing the 18+ talkign

peeves23 says, I'm off in a minute anyway

peeves23 says, 's late, 'n that

 catlady_de_los_angeles says, But we have only told these stories in the MOST TASTEFULK ways, using the formal clinical vocabulary!

 gypsycaine says, that's true.

 gypsycaine says, i will commet that near the end are some graphic descriptions of ER traumas and broken bones.

 gypsycaine says, that way the folks can edit their own.

 gypsycaine says, lol

blaise_42 says, right... had better be off ... got classes in the morning

 gypsycaine says, nn

peeves23 says, me also

peeves23 says, darn college students, frittering my taxes away

 hert0661isme says, Bye

blaise_42 says, so good night all

peeves23 says,

peeves23 says, sleep well, and that

 gypsycaine says, bb

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 gypsycaine says, okkkk