From gypsycaine at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  7 14:17:57 2000
From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise Roger)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 07:17:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Topics
Message-ID: <20000807141757.19302.qmail@web2106.mail.yahoo.com>

This is mainly a test--never used an egroup before!

As for topics, I volunteer "Casting" as the first one!

:)
It's been going strong through 6,000 posts!

Dee

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From joy0823 at earthlink.net  Mon Aug  7 21:34:22 2000
From: joy0823 at earthlink.net (- Joy -)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 17:34:22 -0400
Subject: Question
References: <8mlo3q+13gj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <006c01c000b7$40ea83a0$0100000a@joywelan>

Is there anything I should be doing?  I feel like I'm falling behind now
that someone put some topics in the database. : )

~Joy~




From kippesp at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  7 23:01:31 2000
From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 16:01:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Question
Message-ID: <20000807230131.12660.qmail@web2105.mail.yahoo.com>

I just took a guess to make a foundation.  We can tear
it down and start again if it's not right.  I wasn't
going to "run with it" until we all knew (althought I
have an idea) what we were doing.  So I'm in waiting
mode.

Paul

--- - Joy - <joy0823 at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Is there anything I should be doing?  I feel like
> I'm falling behind now
> that someone put some topics in the database. : )
> 
> ~Joy~
> 


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From joy0823 at earthlink.net  Tue Aug  8 00:05:21 2000
From: joy0823 at earthlink.net (- Joy -)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 20:05:21 -0400
Subject: Volunteers --- FAQs [Yahoo! Clubs: Harry Potter for Grown Ups]
References: <200008072356.QAA20099@merlin.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <014501c000cc$588c6c20$0100000a@joywelan>

Is there any specific time we need to have these done by, or can we go
through them at our leisure?  Also, should we just read all the posts, and
note topics that reoccur, or is there something else we're looking for?
Should we be putting together answers, too?

~Joy~

----- Original Message -----
From: "plinsenmayer" <clubs-mail at yahoo-inc.com>
To: <joy0823 at earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 7:56 PM
Subject: Volunteers --- FAQs [Yahoo! Clubs: Harry Potter for Grown Ups]


> Hi --
>
> Since it doesn't look like all the volunteers have subscribed to the
egroups that Melanie created, I thought I'd post the initial thoughts here.
We're stuck with groups of 350 messages each -- hope that's okay. Let me
know if this seems too much for you, and you want to back out. Here are the
initial assignments --
>
> 1 - 350 GypsyCaine (Dee)
> 351 - 700 Scrimmers99
> 701 - 1050 Anne in Chicago
> 1051 - 1400 Sam D.D.
> 1401 - 1750 Diann Recla
> 1751 - 2100 Joy0823
> 2101 - 2450 Arawa (Anna)
> 2451 - 2800 Smitster (Paul)
> 2800 - 3150 Heiditandy (Heidi)
> 3151 - 3500 Joywitch
> 3501 - 3850 Selah_1977 (Ebony)
> 3851 - 4200 Sarvalsha (Margaret)
> 4201 - 4550 Hert0661 (Simon)
> 4501 - 4900 flying_ford_anglia (Neil)
> 4901 - 5250 Triner2001 (Trina)
> 5251 - 5600 Siriusgeologist (Carole)
> 5601 - 5950 Ravenclawlady (Melanie)
> 5951 -- present Me (I figure I'll have more than 350 by the time we're
done with the FAQs)
>
> Please join the HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com as soon as possible. Send me a
message there if (a) you need to bow out because of the heavy load, and (b)
let me know if you'd prefer to have a list of topics we'd definitely like
covered or if you'd rather just figure it out on your own as you go through
your message group.
>
> Thanks again!!!!!
>
> Penny
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From kippesp at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  8 04:45:34 2000
From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes)
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 04:45:34 -0000
Subject: Updating the message archive
Message-ID: <8mo39e+gi9u@eGroups.com>

Penny,

Wow!  I think Monday (7 August) qualifies as the busiest day of the 
club.  (I may generate a statistic on this parameter as well--I'd be 
interesting.)  I'm still not caught up.  Which brings me to a 
question....

Do you have any expectations on the club's message archive.  I would 
expect I could gather 500 message in about 30 min. now that things 
are pretty much automated.  But with such frequent updating there 
comes the hastle of "Do I download or not download?"

My attendance will be spotty the next two weekends, so the best I can 
do is make an update late this week.

Paul





From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Tue Aug  8 06:55:07 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 06:55:07 -0000
Subject: Volunteers --- FAQs [Yahoo! Clubs: Harry Potter for Grown Ups]
In-Reply-To: <014501c000cc$588c6c20$0100000a@joywelan>
Message-ID: <8moasb+ltr@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "- Joy -" <joy0823 at e...> wrote:
> Is there any specific time we need to have these done by, or can we 
go
> through them at our leisure?  Also, should we just read all the 
posts, and
> note topics that reoccur, or is there something else we're looking 
for?
> Should we be putting together answers, too?
> 
> ~Joy~

I'm not sure about an ETA for this, but it's probably an idea to set 
deadlines, so we don't drift off and forget about it.  I have a busy 
period at work from about mid-Sept to mid-Oct, for example, which
will 
slow me down rather than prevent me from doing anything. Then I may
be 
in New York at the end of October for a bit, which will shut me up. 

My understanding is that we all gather information on the content of 
the posts, and note the numbers under appropriate titles.  Then we 
review the topics and decide on a schedule and format for the FAQs 
themselves. Then we write the FAQs. What Paul has put in the database 
seems like the right idea.  What does it do with a long list of #'s?

Pity - we could use the 'FAQ' and 'blank' templates here for storing 
the FAQs if we could make a link between Yahoo and egroups
(otherwise, 
all the members would have to join here), but we can't, I guess. 
That 
makes me think - we really need to know what's going to happen when 
the two merge their efforts.

We ought to think about maintaining the FAQs once they are done - 
adding or editing in any new information periodically.

Those are my initial thoughts.

Neil




From rawaherc at cs.com  Tue Aug  8 18:23:51 2000
From: rawaherc at cs.com ( Anna Marie Rawa)
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 18:23:51 -0000
Subject: I think I'm done!
Message-ID: <8mpj7n+5566@eGroups.com>

Well, I've gone through my posts, and marked down the subject of each 
one, and thrown out all the ones not pertaining to anything (Hi I 
just wanted to say I love Harry, etc.) And I think I have a list. I'm 
going to try and post it on the database, and you guys can flame it 
from there - I know it'll probably have to be revised a little, so I 
don't mind criticism!

Anna




From heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu  Tue Aug  8 18:24:31 2000
From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu (heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu)
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 18:24:31 -0000
Subject: In going through the old posts to the list
Message-ID: <8mpj8v+hlc9@eGroups.com>

especially since my section predates Book IV, I am really enjoying 
reading all the predictions and the conclusions we had made before 
Book IV's release - I know we're supposed to be looking for ongoing 
threads as much as anything else, but I would love it if anyone finds 
a "gem" - let us know!
And maybe we should have a little section of the FAQ for Predictions 
Which Were Clearly Made By People Channeling Trelawney (and I mean 
that in a nice way!)


here's a little gem from Nicholas:
Ragharding the Dragon on the book 4 cover, my friend has worked it 
out. I don't think Harry will have to fight it. See PoA, Owl Post 
again.
I shall now read from the Holy book;

'And the Dementors?' said Dumbledore. 'They'll be removed from the 
school, I trust?'
'Oh yes, they'll have to go,' said Fudge, running his fingers through 
his hair distractedly through his hair. 'Never dreamed they'd attempt 
the kiss on an inocent boy... completely out of control... No, I'll 
have them packed off to Azkabahn tonight.
Perhaps we should think about Dragons at the school entrance...'
'Hagrid would like that' said Dumbledore, with a swift smile at Harry 
and Hermione.

I thin this explains it quite well - I am just annoyed that I didn't 
spot it myself. The Dragon picture is probably to throw off all of 
our guesses, or might not be as important as we think. Or maybe it 
is... But it could be a Hogwarts Dragon.








From heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu  Tue Aug  8 18:31:24 2000
From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu (heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu)
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 18:31:24 -0000
Subject: I think I'm done!
In-Reply-To: <8mpj7n+5566@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8mpjls+tku8@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, " Anna Marie Rawa" <rawaherc at c...> 
wrote:
> Well, I've gone through my posts, and marked down the subject of 
each 
> one, and thrown out all the ones not pertaining to anything (Hi I 
> just wanted to say I love Harry, etc.) 

How do we decide whether they don't pertain to anything? I'm not 
tagging each post which discusses HP Anonymous or POU (which I 
*love*) because I think one reference to each of these inthe FAQ will 
be enough - we don't necessarily need to point people to each of the 
posts where they are mentioned. Also, there was a string of about 6 
posts about whether open casket funerals were only in the US - that's 
not something which will be FAQ-useful, at least this year. I'm not 
tagging those eithe r- just skipping. Penny & Melanie - is that ok?




From rawaherc at cs.com  Tue Aug  8 18:43:25 2000
From: rawaherc at cs.com ( Anna Marie Rawa)
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 18:43:25 -0000
Subject: I think I'm done!
In-Reply-To: <8mpjls+tku8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8mpkcd+ruk3@eGroups.com>

OK - I'm done posting to the database as well - and I'm also having 
great fun reading through all the posts. What I did was (and I'll be 
corrected on this for sure) note down all the subjects for posts, 
including POA etc, and I presume the final moderators will weed this 
out - am I wrong?

The only things I'm not doing is the "Hi I'm new to this group and I 
love Harry Potter" or some of the posts that don't say anything new - 
duplicates if you will!

Also, I found when posting to the database I couldn't edit those 
fields entered by other people, hence the repeat "casting" field, and 
several others. Am I doing something wrong or is this an egroups 
shortcoming we're just going to have to live with?




From HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com  Tue Aug  8 19:05:16 2000
From: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com (HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com)
Date: 8 Aug 2000 19:05:16 -0000
Subject: New file uploaded to HP4GU-FAQ 
Message-ID: <965761516.5515@egroups.com>


Hello,

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From linsenma at hic.net  Tue Aug  8 22:27:41 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny Linsenmayer)
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 22:27:41 -0000
Subject: Questions & Observations
Message-ID: <8mq1gt+jkr2@eGroups.com>

Hi:

Sorry -- I'll betray my technical incompetence with some of my 
questions & thoughts:

1.  What program am I missing to be able to read Anna's file?  I
click 
on it and my browser is prompting me to save it to my hard drive 
rather than pulling it up.  I suspect (although I've not tried it) 
that if I did save it to my hard drive, I still would be without the 
program needed to read the file.  Help!

2.  I like Heidi's suggestion of one of the FAQs addressing 
"Predictions that were Made for Book 4."  We can also have one for 
"Predictions for Book 5" & so on.

3.  It sounds to me like everyone is on the same page as far as which 
posts are not going to be FAQ-necessary.  I think it's just common 
sense.  (The "Hi, I've just joined" posts are a clear example; the 
"open casket funerals" posts are similarly off-topic enough that we 
can ignore them).  I think we're looking for really big questions, 
recurring themes, etc.  

4.  Paul -- your database of Frequently Recurring Themes -- should we 
add to this or did you mean it to be a guideline for yourself?  It 
looked like you were indexing more messages than you were assigned. 
So, I was confused.  <g> 

5.  Deadlines -- well, I'm just worried that we need to get moving or 
we'll need to all take another grouping of messages.  <g>  Can we say 
a deadline for this initial work of August 25th (gives everyone a 
little more than 2 wks)?  Then, the Committee can set some
appropriate 
deadlines amongst themselves for actually creating the FAQs.  

6.  Maintenance -- Good question Neil.  Yikes.  Any suggestions?  I'm 
wondering if we should have a "FAQ Maintenance Committee."  Gads,
it's 
starting to sound like a Dilbert cartoon with all these committees.  
No, seriously, whoever wanted to could volunteer to periodically 
update 1 or more assigned FAQs.  We could rope Skimmel into updating 
the "What to Read Next" FAQ for example.  

7.  Updating the Message Archive -- Paul, I'm just thrilled that you 
did this!  I think you should update it whenever it's convenient for 
you.  Maybe every 500 messages if possible?  I don't know what's 
involved.  

8.  Yahoo/egroups Merger -- I know nothing more.  I do hope we'll get 
the best of both worlds though.    

9.  MIA -- The following volunteers are still MIA from this board -- 
Simon, Joywitch999, Diann Recla, Scrimmers.  Should we contact them
or 
assume they'll show up soon?  We also had another volunteer, and at 
the rate UberPoster & myself are going, we could probably add Sheryll 
(S_ings at yahoo.com).  <g> 

Have I raised more questions than I answered???

Penny 




From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Tue Aug  8 22:39:30 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 22:39:30 -0000
Subject: In going through the old posts to the list
In-Reply-To: <8mpj8v+hlc9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8mq272+gjb6@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, heidi.h.tandy.c92 at a... wrote:

<<here's a little gem from Nicholas:

Ragharding the Dragon on the book 4 cover, my friend has worked it 
out.>>

Oh dear. I remember that one well, mainly because he asked me
in an off-group conversation "what do you think of my dragon theory?" 
At first I hadn't a clue what he was getting at, but then I was
forced 
to suggest that it was "interesting". Y'know, he gets a bee in his 
bonnet and that's it: I wonder who'll get to do his 'Hagrid's wand 
wasn't snapped' thread? 

I agree that we should share any choice moments we come across.  

For my part, I haven't even looked at my batch yet.  I have, however, 
downloaded the grouped files on to diskettes (memory probs) and will 
aim to get finished by the end of the weekend (although I also have
to 
do Chap 6 and Arthur Weasley for Monday). 

I guess I'll include anything that isn't totally off topic (unless 
tenuously related) or inane.  That's most of my stuff gone already!

Paul, you did a great job writing that programme to extract the 
messages.  I'm impressed.  I'll also save a fortune on my phone bill 
now!

Neil






From HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com  Tue Aug  8 22:51:27 2000
From: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com (HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com)
Date: 8 Aug 2000 22:51:27 -0000
Subject: New file uploaded to HP4GU-FAQ 
Message-ID: <965775087.12985@egroups.com>


Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the HP4GU-FAQ 
group.

  File        : /FAQ's+2.doc 
  Uploaded by : kippesp at yahoo.com 
  Description : Anna's FAQ's Table - this is my original, so as to have a record away from the database! 

You can access this file at the URL

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To learn more about eGroups file sharing, please visit

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From kippesp at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  8 22:55:31 2000
From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes)
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 22:55:31 -0000
Subject: Questions & Observations
In-Reply-To: <8mq1gt+jkr2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8mq353+u5hl@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "Penny Linsenmayer" <linsenma at h...> > 
1.  What program am I missing to be able to read Anna's file?  I
> click 
> on it and my browser is prompting me to save it to my hard drive 
> rather than pulling it up.  I suspect (although I've not tried it) 
> that if I did save it to my hard drive, I still would be without 
the 
> program needed to read the file.  Help!

This is a Microsoft Works file.  But on my system it loads as a 
graphic in MS Word.  I've uploaded the converted file in Microsoft 
Word format.  Yet, I still couldn't edit it.

I can edit up to Word 97 documents, Word Perfect 5/6, and I think 
Works.


> 4.  Paul -- your database of Frequently Recurring Themes -- should 
we 
> add to this or did you mean it to be a guideline for yourself?  It 
> looked like you were indexing more messages than you were assigned. 
> So, I was confused.  <g> 

I did this before the message numbers were assigned.  I'll take care 
of moving/removing as necessary.





From HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com  Wed Aug  9 02:27:45 2000
From: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com (HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com)
Date: 9 Aug 2000 02:27:45 -0000
Subject: New file uploaded to HP4GU-FAQ 
Message-ID: <965788065.11408@egroups.com>


Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the HP4GU-FAQ 
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From rawaherc at cs.com  Wed Aug  9 03:26:35 2000
From: rawaherc at cs.com ( Anna Marie Rawa)
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 03:26:35 -0000
Subject: Anna's terrible Computer skills!
Message-ID: <8mqj1b+48aq@eGroups.com>

Sorry - this new computer of mine only has Microsoft works. I 
uploaded my actual results into the Database, the file was just in 
case anyone was interested. I appologise for my terrible computing 
skills...

So, do I get my name crossed off the little list? Actually I had so 
much fun, If anyone has dropped out, I'll be glad to at least take 
some of their work load! It was so much fun - I had the set of 
messages with most of David_the_Bravest's posts, and some interesting 
posts, many of which I had forgotten about - and my section was only 
a few months ago! (around 6/19). It seems so weird all the 
discussions about what woould happen in GoF, or even what it would be 
called!




From kippesp at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  9 04:22:59 2000
From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 21:22:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Anna's terrible Computer skills!
Message-ID: <20000809042259.20598.qmail@web2101.mail.yahoo.com>

---  Anna Marie Rawa <rawaherc at cs.com> wrote:
> So, do I get my name crossed off the little list?
> Actually I had so 
> much fun, If anyone has dropped out, I'll be glad to
> at least take 
> some of their work load!

With all the casting questions lately, I'm sure Penny
would give you those in her bucket.  I'm hoping that I
don't have too many casting posts.  I skipped them the
first time around.






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From linsenma at hic.net  Wed Aug  9 17:23:48 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 12:23:48 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Anna's terrible Computer skills!
References: <8mqj1b+48aq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <399193A4.F1ED6767@hic.net>

Hi:

Anna Marie Rawa wrote:

> Sorry - this new computer of mine only has Microsoft works. I uploaded
> my actual results into the Database, the file was just in case anyone
> was interested. I appologise for my terrible computing skills...

Oh, I would have assumed that any computer (including mine) could pull up
Microsoft Works.  Not sure why that didn't work, but in any case, it's
sure not your fault Anna!  I'm pretty sure it's my own technical
incompetence in fact . . . . <g>

> So, do I get my name crossed off the little list? Actually I had so
> much fun, If anyone has dropped out, I'll be glad to at least take
> some of their work load! It was so much fun -

Well, I may need to take you up on that offer.  The number of messages
left for me to do is ballooning by the second.  I have 700 messages to do
at the moment.  Any chance you'd like to take 5951  - 6301 (Sheryll
backed out)??  No pressure if you can't though Anna.

I'm about to start making a master list of FAQs, based on the volunteer
charts that are already in.  We may need a committee of more than 5 -- I
have no idea how many FAQs we're going to have.  Yikes!!!

Penny




From linsenma at hic.net  Wed Aug  9 17:25:32 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 12:25:32 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Anna's terrible Computer skills!
References: <20000809042259.20598.qmail@web2101.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3991940C.9D6C7909@hic.net>

Hi:

> With all the casting questions lately, I'm sure Penny
> would give you those in her bucket.  I'm hoping that I
> don't have too many casting posts.  I skipped them the
> first time around.

I sure hope someone else on the FAQs committee is willing to write up
the "Casting FAQ" as that would be the very last one on my list.  <vbg>

Penny

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From rawaherc at cs.com  Wed Aug  9 17:39:20 2000
From: rawaherc at cs.com ( Anna Marie Rawa)
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 17:39:20 -0000
Subject: Anna's terrible Computer skills!
In-Reply-To: <399193A4.F1ED6767@hic.net>
Message-ID: <8ms508+9kq1@eGroups.com>

5951-6301 it is then! I have NO LIFE! Pretty scary. At least I can do 
this while I'm waiting for all those desperate employers to call me 
back (not!)

Anna




From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Wed Aug  9 19:50:30 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 19:50:30 -0000
Subject: A minor clarification
Message-ID: <8mscm6+ofps@eGroups.com>

Hi all,

(Melanie) I think I'm doing 4551-4900, not 4501-4900, as stated in
the 
assignments table?  

Neil




From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Wed Aug  9 20:06:40 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 20:06:40 -0000
Subject: Opening the message files
Message-ID: <8msdkg+uivo@eGroups.com>

I'm being stoooopid, I think.

I want to view the two files that have been completed, but all seem
to 
I get is gobbledegook - either one line of it, or pages of it, but no 
words.  I've tried opening the files from here, and I've tried saving 
them to disk and opening them from there.  I've tried Word 95 v, 7.0, 
Wordpad and Notepad.  I've also tried txt, rich text and doc formats.

Um - anyone know what's wrong?  I'm sure I'm overlooking the 
obvious...

Neil




From linsenma at hic.net  Wed Aug  9 20:45:03 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 15:45:03 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Opening the message files
References: <8msdkg+uivo@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3991C2CF.859D11A7@hic.net>

Hi:

Neil Ward wrote:

> I'm being stoooopid, I think.
>
> I want to view the two files that have been completed, but all seem
> to I get is gobbledegook - either one line of it, or pages of it, but
> no
> words.

That's weird.  The original Technical Incompetent (me) is able to open
these files (once Paul converted Anna's file to Word that is).  My
browser is prompting me to either "open" or "save" the file.  I've been
opening, and it pops up in Word.  Could there be something weird where
only one member can view a file at any given time?  If so, I could be
the problem as I've had those files open all afternoon (been meaning to
start creating the master FAQs list).

'fraid I'm not the person to really resolve this though.  Maybe Paul or
Melanie can step in with some thoughts.

Penny

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From: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com (HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com)
Date: 10 Aug 2000 00:09:39 -0000
Subject: New file uploaded to HP4GU-FAQ 
Message-ID: <965866179.30227@egroups.com>


Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the HP4GU-FAQ 
group.

  File        : /wrd97cnv.exe 
  Uploaded by : kippesp at yahoo.com 
  Description : Word 97 to Word 95/6.0 Converter 

You can access this file at the URL

http://www.egroups.com/files/HP4GU-FAQ/wrd97cnv%2Eexe 

To learn more about eGroups file sharing, please visit

http://www.egroups.com/help/files.html


Regards,

kippesp at yahoo.com
 






From kippesp at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 10 00:15:56 2000
From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 00:15:56 -0000
Subject: Opening the message files
In-Reply-To: <8msdkg+uivo@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8mss7s+bp1u@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "Neil Ward" <neilward at d...> wrote:
> I'm being stoooopid, I think.
> 
> I want to view the two files that have been completed, but all seem
> to 
> I get is gobbledegook - either one line of it, or pages of it, but 
no 
> words.  I've tried opening the files from here, and I've tried 
saving 
> them to disk and opening them from there.  I've tried Word 95 v, 
7.0, 
> Wordpad and Notepad.  I've also tried txt, rich text and doc 
formats.
> 
> Um - anyone know what's wrong?  I'm sure I'm overlooking the 
> obvious...
> 
> Neil

Neil,

This looks like a Word 97 (or possibly 2000) file.  Since I only have 
Word 97 (and could open the file), the file converter I posted 
(wrd97cnv.exe) should solve the 
problem.

Here's another 1 MB file to run your phone bill up.

Paul





From kippesp at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 10 00:17:04 2000
From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 00:17:04 -0000
Subject: Opening the message files (converter info)
In-Reply-To: <8mss7s+bp1u@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8mssa0+ltqf@eGroups.com>

Oops.  This is where you can go to get more information on the 
converter I uploaded just incase of trouble.

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q162/2/14.asp




From gypsycaine at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 10 00:17:35 2000
From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 20:17:35 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Opening the message files
References: <8msdkg+uivo@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <02ad01c00260$633f9080$84dc5d18@neo.rr.com>

Could those files be in Works, Neil?  If so, they are not compatible with Word. (or Office)    

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Neil Ward 
  To: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 4:06 PM
  Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Opening the message files


  I'm being stoooopid, I think.

  I want to view the two files that have been completed, but all seem
  to 
  I get is gobbledegook - either one line of it, or pages of it, but no 
  words.  I've tried opening the files from here, and I've tried saving 
  them to disk and opening them from there.  I've tried Word 95 v, 7.0, 
  Wordpad and Notepad.  I've also tried txt, rich text and doc formats.

  Um - anyone know what's wrong?  I'm sure I'm overlooking the 
  obvious...

  Neil


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From melaniem68 at home.com  Thu Aug 10 00:28:31 2000
From: melaniem68 at home.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 00 17:28:31 -0700
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Volunteers --- FAQs [Yahoo! Clubs: Harry Potter for Grown Ups]
Message-ID: <20000810002244.WROU8825.femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx82773-a.elcjn1.sdca.home.com>

> Is there any specific time we need to have these done by, or can we go
> through them at our leisure?  Also, should we just read all the posts, and
>note topics that reoccur, or is there something else we're looking for?
> Should we be putting together answers, too?

I'd say the best thing to do is to go through your posts, and note the topic, keeping a record of message numbers for cross-reference.  As to putting together answers, I'd say that if there's a question with a definite answer (rather than theories), go for it.  If the question has only theories and rumors for answers, keep note of the message numbers, and we can look through them later, and build the answers after the messages are all tallied.  These are, however, not executive decisions.  I'm most open to what the rest of you think.

Melanie



From melaniem68 at home.com  Thu Aug 10 00:29:35 2000
From: melaniem68 at home.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 00 17:29:35 -0700
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Good choice
Message-ID: <20000810002347.WYOH6839.femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx82773-a.elcjn1.sdca.home.com>

> Good choice on eGroups, Melanie!

Thank you.  I wasn't sure which would be better.  But the "Files" and "Database sections made my mind up for me!

> Anyway, in summary, I created a database in a manner I thought we 
> were heading with this.  Plus, I wanted to try out the new database 
> thing.

You beat me to it, Paul.  It's almost exactly like the database I was going to make.  I've also made a database of the assignments Penny posted on the Yahoo! group, along with which ones are finished (as far as I knew as of Monday night).  Anyone who is finished, let me know and I'll update that record.  Ravenclawlady at yahoo.com is the best address to reach me, as I just now caught up with a week's worth of e-mail to melaniem68 at home.com!  

Since Kaitlin opted not to volunteer, I took the liberty of assigning her posts (5951 - 6300) to Sheryll, who volunteered after the assignments were handed out.

Thank you all for the help.  Now to start with my own 350 posts (after I've caught up with my e-mail).

Melanie



From melaniem68 at home.com  Thu Aug 10 00:31:31 2000
From: melaniem68 at home.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 00 17:31:31 -0700
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: I think I'm done!
Message-ID: <20000810002523.WIPC8672.femail3.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx82773-a.elcjn1.sdca.home.com>

> Also, I found when posting to the database I couldn't edit those 
> fields entered by other people, hence the repeat "casting" field, and 
> several others. Am I doing something wrong or is this an egroups 
> shortcoming we're just going to have to live with?


You did nothing wrong, Anna.  I checked the way the database is set up, and it turns out only the moderator (Penny or I) or the one who wrote the table (Paul) can edit information in the table.  I'll go in and consolidate all repeat categories.  Unless Paul has any objection (if you do, Paul, e-mail me at ravenclawlady at yahoo.com), I'll change the settings tomorrow so we can all update the categories with new message numbers.

Melanie



From kippesp at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 10 00:38:07 2000
From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 00:38:07 -0000
Subject: I think I'm done!
In-Reply-To: <20000810002523.WIPC8672.femail3.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx82773-a.elcjn1.sdca.home.com>
Message-ID: <8msthf+bhmu@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, Melanie Moore <melaniem68 at h...> wrote:
> > Also, I found when posting to the database I couldn't edit those 
> > fields entered by other people, hence the repeat "casting" field, 
and 
> > several others. Am I doing something wrong or is this an egroups 
> > shortcoming we're just going to have to live with?
> 
> 
> You did nothing wrong, Anna.  I checked the way the database is set 
up, and it turns out only the moderator (Penny or I) or the one who 
wrote the table (Paul) can edit information in the table.  I'll go in 
and consolidate all repeat categories.  Unless Paul has any objection 
(if you do, Paul, e-mail me at ravenclawlady at y...), I'll change the 
settings tomorrow so we can all update the categories with new 
message numbers.
> 
> Melanie

Sorry, I thought I got all of those.  It's been Fixed.




From linsenma at hic.net  Thu Aug 10 00:42:40 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 19:42:40 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Good choice
References: <20000810002347.WYOH6839.femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx82773-a.elcjn1.sdca.home.com>
Message-ID: <3991FA80.6634EBDC@hic.net>

Hi:

Melanie Moore wrote:

> Since Kaitlin opted not to volunteer, I took the liberty of assigning
> her posts (5951 - 6300) to Sheryll, who volunteered after the
> assignments were handed out.

Oops -- have I confused things?  I thought  both Sheryll & Kaitlin
backed out, so Anna has taken over that message grouping.  If Sheryll is
in fact interested, she can take the 300 messages after Anna's new
grouping since I'm sure there will still be ample for me to do at the
end.

Question: Are we supposed to be adding message #s and new FAQ topics to
the Database that Paul created?  I'm afraid I've been confused on that
point.  Or, are we supposed to create our own files & then the FAQs
Committee will merge it all together.  I'm open to either method.  Just
confused.  <g>

Sorry for the lack of organization.

Penny
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From Ebonyteach at aol.com  Thu Aug 10 00:51:04 2000
From: Ebonyteach at aol.com (Ebonyteach at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 20:51:04 EDT
Subject: HELP!
Message-ID: <77.80347fb.26c35678@aol.com>

Umm... sorry you guys, but I can't seem to find the post over at Yahoo! with 
my message assignment.  My computer was friggin' up the day the list came 
out, so I couldn't copy/paste into Word.

Help, please help!  I just need to know which 350 I was assigned.  I just 
found out that I'm moving THIS MONTH today and must get this done ASAP.  ;)

Ebony AKA AngieJ



From kippesp at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 10 00:57:40 2000
From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 17:57:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] HELP!
Message-ID: <20000810005740.22817.qmail@web2103.mail.yahoo.com>

3501 - 3850  

The database will always contain the lastest (I
think).

Paul

--- Ebonyteach at aol.com wrote:
> Umm... sorry you guys, but I can't seem to find the
> post over at Yahoo! with 
> my message assignment.  My computer was friggin' up
> the day the list came 
> out, so I couldn't copy/paste into Word.
> 
> Help, please help!  I just need to know which 350 I
> was assigned.  I just 
> found out that I'm moving THIS MONTH today and must
> get this done ASAP.  ;)
> 
> Ebony AKA AngieJ
> 
>

> 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com
> 
> 
> 


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From melaniem68 at home.com  Thu Aug 10 01:43:08 2000
From: melaniem68 at home.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 01:43:08 -0000
Subject: A minor clarification
In-Reply-To: <8mscm6+ofps@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8mt1bc+mcus@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "Neil Ward" <neilward at d...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> (Melanie) I think I'm doing 4551-4900, not 4501-4900, as stated in
> the 
> assignments table?  
> 
> Neil

In the words of the great orator Homer Simpson: DOH!

Thank you for pointing that out, Neil.  I have it all corrected.

Melanie




From melaniem68 at home.com  Thu Aug 10 01:59:43 2000
From: melaniem68 at home.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 01:59:43 -0000
Subject: Good choice
In-Reply-To: <3991FA80.6634EBDC@hic.net>
Message-ID: <8mt2af+kgq5@eGroups.com>

> Oops -- have I confused things?  I thought  both Sheryll & Kaitlin
> backed out, so Anna has taken over that message grouping.  If 
Sheryll is
> in fact interested, she can take the 300 messages after Anna's new
> grouping since I'm sure there will still be ample for me to do at 
the
> end.

They may both have.  I've sent Sheryll an invitation to this group, 
but she hasn't yet joined.  I hadn't heard she'd bowed out.  But 
then, I haven't checked the club messages since this morning.  In 
fact, it may even have been last night.



> Question: Are we supposed to be adding message #s and new FAQ 
topics to
> the Database that Paul created?  I'm afraid I've been confused on 
that
> point.  Or, are we supposed to create our own files & then the FAQs
> Committee will merge it all together.  I'm open to either method.  
Just
> confused.  <g>


I think it's a good idea to do both the club database and individual 
files.  The group database will keep everything consolidated, plus 
everyone can access it with no conversion confusion.  But individual 
files are good as a back-up.

If anyone has problems putting their info into the group database (or 
is uncomfortable with trying), e-mail me with the info, and I'll put 
it in.

Keep up the good work.

Melanie

PS:  I was able to pull up Anna's file, and was trying to convert it 
to a more common program and repost it.  But I see Paul beat me to 
it.  Thanks, Paul.




From gypsycaine at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 10 02:26:39 2000
From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 22:26:39 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Good choice
References: <20000810002347.WYOH6839.femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx82773-a.elcjn1.sdca.home.com>
Message-ID: <036901c00272$6ccd6020$84dc5d18@neo.rr.com>

That's my problem now Melanie!  Grins.  It seems that in one day, less than 24 hours, I have gotten about 400+ emails in my box.  Wading through them is a pain, almost, except that most of them are HP4GU posts!  How many did we get Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, any way?  Whew!

I am not quite certain the how of to get started with my posts.  My copies aren't labeled with the numbers, so I will need to figure out how to get into that stash, but when I tried, it wouldn't let me....

First time on an egroup, forgive me?

Dee    

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Melanie Moore 
  To: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 8:29 PM
  Subject: RE: [HP4GU-FAQ] Good choice


  > Good choice on eGroups, Melanie!

  Thank you.  I wasn't sure which would be better.  But the "Files" and "Database sections made my mind up for me!

  > Anyway, in summary, I created a database in a manner I thought we 
  > were heading with this.  Plus, I wanted to try out the new database 
  > thing.

  You beat me to it, Paul.  It's almost exactly like the database I was going to make.  I've also made a database of the assignments Penny posted on the Yahoo! group, along with which ones are finished (as far as I knew as of Monday night).  Anyone who is finished, let me know and I'll update that record.  Ravenclawlady at yahoo.com is the best address to reach me, as I just now caught up with a week's worth of e-mail to melaniem68 at home.com!  

  Since Kaitlin opted not to volunteer, I took the liberty of assigning her posts (5951 - 6300) to Sheryll, who volunteered after the assignments were handed out.

  Thank you all for the help.  Now to start with my own 350 posts (after I've caught up with my e-mail).

  Melanie

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From kippesp at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 10 03:36:16 2000
From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 20:36:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Good choice
Message-ID: <20000810033616.26813.qmail@web2106.mail.yahoo.com>

--- Denise <gypsycaine at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am not quite certain the how of to get started
> with my posts.  My copies aren't labeled with the
> numbers, so I will need to figure out how to get
> into that stash, but when I tried, it wouldn't let
> me....

Denise,

I just wanted to make sure that you saw this address. 
It's only been posted once.:
http://members.xoom.com/hpfg

These messages have the post number with the message.


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Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites.
http://invites.yahoo.com/



From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Thu Aug 10 09:15:34 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 09:15:34 -0000
Subject: Opening the message files (converter info)
In-Reply-To: <8mssa0+ltqf@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8mtrrm+gj8n@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "Paul Kippes" <kippesp at y...> wrote:
> Oops.  This is where you can go to get more information on the 
> converter I uploaded just incase of trouble.
> 
> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q162/2/14.asp

Thanks Paul (and others, for advice, soothing words).  I'll try that 
converter on my steam powered computer at home.  

I have no problems opening the files from my work computer, BTW -  
which is younger and perkier in every way -  so it was a 
compatibility problem.

Neil




From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Thu Aug 10 15:02:14 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:02:14 -0000
Subject: Chapter discussions...
Message-ID: <8mug5m+m0gf@eGroups.com>

Hi all

I've just come across Simon's Ch. 2 summary among the first few posts 
in my batch, and that set me wondering...

Should we classify chapter summaries and all related discussion 
under 'Ch. x GoF', or assess the content of 'thread' messages and 
categorise them accordingly (putting only the initial summaries and 
very broad chapter discussions under a 'Ch. x GoF' heading)?  Some 
responses to these lead-off posts cover various topics, which 
wouldn't be very obvious if everything was indexed under a chapter 
heading.

Generally speaking, I am assuming that we go by content rather than 
thread, since people are inclined to drift from the original title.  
Hmmm - I think I just answered my own question, but I'd be interested 
to see what others think.

Neil





From rawaherc at cs.com  Thu Aug 10 18:09:24 2000
From: rawaherc at cs.com ( Anna Marie Rawa)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 18:09:24 -0000
Subject: Quick Question....
Message-ID: <8mur4k+9b36@eGroups.com>

Sorry if this already showed up - I lost my internet connection just 
as I tried to press "send message"....

I noticed that on the Database, Melanie has me down for doing up to 
#6650 - no problem, but I think on the message board somebody 
(Penny?) asked me to do up to #6300 - I don't mind doing it, but 
before I do I wanted to check I wasn't treading on any toes (I'm up 
to #3310). 

BTW I'd like to appologise again for the confusion I caused posting a 
file in Waorks - I have now figured out how to convert it to Word 
before uploading. I just wanted there to be a backup record of my 
work - I don't mind doing it, but I draw the line at doing it twice 
over!!!!

Anna (the technically challenged)




From linsenma at hic.net  Thu Aug 10 22:04:33 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny Linsenmayer)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 22:04:33 -0000
Subject: Master List of FAQs
Message-ID: <8mv8th+rdcp@eGroups.com>

Hi:

When you have a moment, take a look at the Master List of FAQs that I 
created & put in the "Database" section of our egroups.  We can add & 
edit this as necessary.  It's based on the topical groupings from 
people who've sifted through their messages & my own thoughts. Paul:
I 
love some of your heading titles (especially New York Times: Evil 
Behavior).  <vbg> 

We can change this -- but I started out with the premise that we
could 
group some sub-topics under a larger topic.  For example, I have a 
FAQ on Hogwarts.  I would expect that would include the theories
about 
where Hogwarts is located, whether there is tuition, the size of the 
student body, where the professors live & whether they're married or 
not, etc.  

Similarly, I set up a FAQ for each of the major characters (I know, I 
forgot Pettigrew -- we'll add him).  The Hermione page would have a 
cross-link to the Names (meanings) FAQ, a physical description of 
Hermione, her personality, a cross-link to the Romance Pairings FAQ, 
the prounciation of her name, etc.

For the Committee:  I've created columns for the name of the person 
creating the FAQ, date of completion & who's responsible for 
maintaining it.  My thought is that once the FAQs are written, we 
might be able to talk some of the other members into volunteering to 
maintain a FAQ or 2.  That way, we, the 5-person Committee, won't be 
trying to maintain 10-15 FAQs each.  

Heidi has expressed an interest in the Geography FAQ (where is 
Hogwarts, the Burrow, Diagon Alley, etc.) & the Mythology FAQ.  I am 
placing dibs on Hermione.  I'm assigning "CoverArt" & "Other 
Recommended Reading" to Skimmel if he'll do them. He usually weighs
in 
heavily on both those topics.  If you're not a member of the 5-person 
"Committee" but want to do one or more of the FAQs, let me know.  
We're more than happy to take your help.  And, I do not want to be 
stuck with Casting.  <g>

Oh, email the group with your "dibs" on various FAQs.  That way 
Melanie will know that Neil has already placed dibs on "Potter,
Harry" 
for example.  That is, I won't have to sort through & figure out who 
put dibs on something first. You might want to think about initially 
volunteering for one large FAQ and some of the smaller ones.  I
wanted 
to try & sort them into large ones and then more minor ones, but then 
my head started to hurt.  

Is any of this making sense?  <g>  

Penny   




From MMcNie at mmsa.com  Thu Aug 10 22:19:45 2000
From: MMcNie at mmsa.com (McNie, Margaret)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:19:45 -0700
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Lupin/Dumbledore/HELP
Message-ID: <983C4669E4FED2119EE80001FAF833A3674111@XCHNGHQ1>


O.K. I finally got started with my messages today. But being an egroups
virgin, I have no clue how to get into our site. So can someone lead me step
by step? I did go into egroups.com and tried to use 'my groups' but when I
put in my email address and the password I always use, it said the password
was unknown. Do I have to register? (You'd think a computer programmer could
figure this out, wouldn't you? But I'm strictly mainframe. I get really lost
with this PC stuff.)

To Melanie, I wouldn't mind doing the maintenance on the Lupin and
Dumbledore FAQs. I'm assuming there is one for each even if I haven't been
able to get into our site to see them. I might be able to take some of the
others when I can see what they are. I'm with Penny though; I don't want the
casting stuff. I do read it but just to see how outrageous it's getting:
David McCallum for my Lupin? He's DECADES too old, please!

Anyway, thanks in advance to whoever jumps in to help. 


Margaret
(sarvalsha)



-----Original Message-----
From: Penny Linsenmayer [mailto:linsenma at hic.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 3:05 PM
To: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Master List of FAQs


Hi:

When you have a moment, take a look at the Master List of FAQs that I 
created & put in the "Database" section of our egroups.  We can add & 
edit this as necessary.  It's based on the topical groupings from 
people who've sifted through their messages & my own thoughts. Paul:
I 
love some of your heading titles (especially New York Times: Evil 
Behavior).  <vbg> 

We can change this -- but I started out with the premise that we
could 
group some sub-topics under a larger topic.  For example, I have a 
FAQ on Hogwarts.  I would expect that would include the theories
about 
where Hogwarts is located, whether there is tuition, the size of the 
student body, where the professors live & whether they're married or 
not, etc.  

Similarly, I set up a FAQ for each of the major characters (I know, I 
forgot Pettigrew -- we'll add him).  The Hermione page would have a 
cross-link to the Names (meanings) FAQ, a physical description of 
Hermione, her personality, a cross-link to the Romance Pairings FAQ, 
the prounciation of her name, etc.

For the Committee:  I've created columns for the name of the person 
creating the FAQ, date of completion & who's responsible for 
maintaining it.  My thought is that once the FAQs are written, we 
might be able to talk some of the other members into volunteering to 
maintain a FAQ or 2.  That way, we, the 5-person Committee, won't be 
trying to maintain 10-15 FAQs each.  

Heidi has expressed an interest in the Geography FAQ (where is 
Hogwarts, the Burrow, Diagon Alley, etc.) & the Mythology FAQ.  I am 
placing dibs on Hermione.  I'm assigning "CoverArt" & "Other 
Recommended Reading" to Skimmel if he'll do them. He usually weighs
in 
heavily on both those topics.  If you're not a member of the 5-person 
"Committee" but want to do one or more of the FAQs, let me know.  
We're more than happy to take your help.  And, I do not want to be 
stuck with Casting.  <g>

Oh, email the group with your "dibs" on various FAQs.  That way 
Melanie will know that Neil has already placed dibs on "Potter,
Harry" 
for example.  That is, I won't have to sort through & figure out who 
put dibs on something first. You might want to think about initially 
volunteering for one large FAQ and some of the smaller ones.  I
wanted 
to try & sort them into large ones and then more minor ones, but then 
my head started to hurt.  

Is any of this making sense?  <g>  

Penny   




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From linsenma at hic.net  Thu Aug 10 23:14:01 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 18:14:01 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Volunteers --- FAQs [Yahoo! Clubs: Harry Potter for  Grown Ups]
References: <20000810002244.WROU8825.femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx82773-a.elcjn1.sdca.home.com>
Message-ID: <39933739.71720C10@hic.net>

Hi:

Melanie Moore wrote:

> I'd say the best thing to do is to go through your posts, and note the
> topic, keeping a record of message numbers for cross-reference.  As to
> putting together answers, I'd say that if there's a question with a
> definite answer (rather than theories), go for it.  If the question
> has only theories and rumors for answers, keep note of the message
> numbers, and we can look through them later, and build the answers
> after the messages are all tallied.  These are, however, not executive
> decisions.  I'm most open to what the rest of you think.

I second all of this!!

Penny

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From linsenma at hic.net  Thu Aug 10 23:22:52 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 18:22:52 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Chapter discussions...
References: <8mug5m+m0gf@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3993394C.BEBE5CC9@hic.net>

Hi:

Neil Ward wrote:

> Should we classify chapter summaries and all related discussion
> under 'Ch. x GoF', or assess the content of 'thread' messages and
> categorise them accordingly (putting only the initial summaries and
> very broad chapter discussions under a 'Ch. x GoF' heading)?  Some
> responses to these lead-off posts cover various topics, which
> wouldn't be very obvious if everything was indexed under a chapter
> heading.

I think putting general broad things under "Ch x, GoF" makes sense, and
putting more substantive threads into the appropriate category.  That
way, they are more easily found like you said.

Penny
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From linsenma at hic.net  Thu Aug 10 23:25:20 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 18:25:20 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Quick Question....
References: <8mur4k+9b36@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <399339E0.E8FCD345@hic.net>

Hi:

Anna Marie Rawa wrote:

> I noticed that on the Database, Melanie has me down for doing up to
> #6650 - no problem, but I think on the message board somebody
> (Penny?) asked me to do up to #6300 - I don't mind doing it, but
> before I do I wanted to check I wasn't treading on any toes (I'm up
> to #3310).

I think it should be through 6300 Anna.  Hope I'm too late with this
response.  If you've done more, I won't argue -- that's for sure!
Thanks again for taking another batch.

Penny
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From linsenma at hic.net  Thu Aug 10 23:27:35 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 18:27:35 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Quick Question....
References: <8mur4k+9b36@eGroups.com> <399339E0.E8FCD345@hic.net>
Message-ID: <39933A63.72249224@hic.net>

Anna --

My original reply should have said I hope I'm NOT too late with this
response.  Big oops!!

Penny

Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer wrote:

> Hi:
>
> Anna Marie Rawa wrote:
>
>> I noticed that on the Database, Melanie has me down for doing up to
>> #6650 - no problem, but I think on the message board somebody
>> (Penny?) asked me to do up to #6300 - I don't mind doing it, but
>> before I do I wanted to check I wasn't treading on any toes (I'm up
>> to #3310).
>
> I think it should be through 6300 Anna.  Hope I'm too late with this
> response.  If you've done more, I won't argue -- that's for sure!
> Thanks again for taking another batch.
>
> Penny
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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From linsenma at hic.net  Fri Aug 11 00:21:10 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 19:21:10 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Lupin/Dumbledore/HELP
References: <983C4669E4FED2119EE80001FAF833A3674111@XCHNGHQ1>
Message-ID: <399346BC.51C4ACB9@hic.net>

Margaret --

I'm going to try & help (but my technical competence level is low)!

If you've never used egroups before, then yes, you do need to register.
Go to egroups.com.  Mine "remembers" me so I don't have to sign in each
time.  But, I suspect you do need to register if you've never done so
before.

If you have registered before but it's not accepting your password, is
it possible you've forgotten your password?

Anyway, once egroups lets you in -- this group should be one of the ones
listed on the left-hand side of the screen.  You're sending & receiving
email from this group, so you must be subscribed.

Aacck.  Not sure if I'm helping or not -- maybe someone else will have
suggestions to offer.

Penny

"McNie, Margaret" wrote:

> .K. I finally got started with my messages today. But being an egroups
> virgin, I have no clue how to get into our site. So can someone lead
> me step by step? I did go into egroups.com and tried to use 'my
> groups' but when I put in my email address and the password I always
> use, it said the password was unknown. Do I have to register? (You'd
> think a computer programmer could figure this out, wouldn't you? But
> I'm strictly mainframe. I get really lost with this PC stuff.)
>
> To Melanie, I wouldn't mind doing the maintenance on the Lupin and
> Dumbledore FAQs. I'm assuming there is one for each even if I haven't
> been able to get into our site to see them. I might be able to take
> some of the others when I can see what they are. I'm with Penny
> though; I don't want the casting stuff. I do read it but just to see
> how outrageous it's getting: David McCallum for my Lupin? He's DECADES
> too old, please!
>
> Anyway, thanks in advance to whoever jumps in to help.
>
> Margaret
> (sarvalsha)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Penny Linsenmayer [mailto:linsenma at hic.net]
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 3:05 PM
> To: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com
> Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Master List of FAQs
>
> Hi:
>
> When you have a moment, take a look at the Master List of FAQs that I
> created & put in the "Database" section of our egroups.  We can add &
> edit this as necessary.  It's based on the topical groupings from
> people who've sifted through their messages & my own thoughts. Paul:
> I
> love some of your heading titles (especially New York Times: Evil
> Behavior).  <vbg>
>
> We can change this -- but I started out with the premise that we
> could
> group some sub-topics under a larger topic.  For example, I have a
> FAQ on Hogwarts.  I would expect that would include the theories
> about
> where Hogwarts is located, whether there is tuition, the size of the
> student body, where the professors live & whether they're married or
> not, etc.
>
> Similarly, I set up a FAQ for each of the major characters (I know, I
> forgot Pettigrew -- we'll add him).  The Hermione page would have a
> cross-link to the Names (meanings) FAQ, a physical description of
> Hermione, her personality, a cross-link to the Romance Pairings FAQ,
> the prounciation of her name, etc.
>
> For the Committee:  I've created columns for the name of the person
> creating the FAQ, date of completion & who's responsible for
> maintaining it.  My thought is that once the FAQs are written, we
> might be able to talk some of the other members into volunteering to
> maintain a FAQ or 2.  That way, we, the 5-person Committee, won't be
> trying to maintain 10-15 FAQs each.
>
> Heidi has expressed an interest in the Geography FAQ (where is
> Hogwarts, the Burrow, Diagon Alley, etc.) & the Mythology FAQ.  I am
> placing dibs on Hermione.  I'm assigning "CoverArt" & "Other
> Recommended Reading" to Skimmel if he'll do them. He usually weighs
> in
> heavily on both those topics.  If you're not a member of the 5-person
> "Committee" but want to do one or more of the FAQs, let me know.
> We're more than happy to take your help.  And, I do not want to be
> stuck with Casting.  <g>
>
> Oh, email the group with your "dibs" on various FAQs.  That way
> Melanie will know that Neil has already placed dibs on "Potter,
> Harry"
> for example.  That is, I won't have to sort through & figure out who
> put dibs on something first. You might want to think about initially
> volunteering for one large FAQ and some of the smaller ones.  I
> wanted
> to try & sort them into large ones and then more minor ones, but then
> my head started to hurt.
>
> Is any of this making sense?  <g>
>
> Penny
>
>
> 
>
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From joy0823 at earthlink.net  Fri Aug 11 02:22:34 2000
From: joy0823 at earthlink.net (- Joy -)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 22:22:34 -0400
Subject: Done!
Message-ID: <007001c0033b$03993560$0100000a@joywelan>

I'm done going through my messages.  I posted a file with the topics in
those posts.  I didn't put them in the database, because I thought it was
more readable and easier to keep them separate.  If the group wants me to
put it with the rest, I will.  Let me know if I need to make any additions
or corrections.  Thanks!

~Joy~




From melaniem68 at home.com  Fri Aug 11 06:38:20 2000
From: melaniem68 at home.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 06:38:20 -0000
Subject: Master List of FAQs
In-Reply-To: <8mv8th+rdcp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8n070s+7cjq@eGroups.com>

> When you have a moment, take a look at the Master List of FAQs that 
I 
> created & put in the "Database" section of our egroups.  We can add 
& 
> edit this as necessary.  It's based on the topical groupings from 
> people who've sifted through their messages & my own thoughts. Paul:
> I 
> love some of your heading titles (especially New York Times: Evil 
> Behavior).  <vbg> 


> Oh, email the group with your "dibs" on various FAQs.  That way 
> Melanie will know that Neil has already placed dibs on "Potter,
> Harry" 
> for example.  That is, I won't have to sort through & figure out
who 
> put dibs on something first. You might want to think about
initially 
> volunteering for one large FAQ and some of the smaller ones.  I
> wanted 
> to try & sort them into large ones and then more minor ones, but 
then 
> my head started to hurt.  


I don't wonder; you've done a lot of work on this!  I've taken the 
"dibs" and assignments I've received so far, and put their names into 
the "creator" field of the appropriate records. That way, we'll know 
what's already taken at a glance.  If you had something else in mind, 
Penny, for the creator column (something more permanant, perhaps),
let 
me know, and I'll create a separate "dibs" column.

In additon to the requests and assignments I've received, I've given 
myself dibs (am I allowed to do that?) on the Houses at Hogwarts and 
the Chronology/Timeline.  I've also tentatively put Penny down for
the 
category that includes the New York Times bestseller list (I know how 
apathetic you are about that one, Penny <g>).

In short, here is what I have so far.  If I've forgotten anyone, let 
me know.  Thanks.

Heidi:
  Geography
  Mythology & HP


Margaret:  
  Dumbledore, Albus
  Lupin, Remus 


Melanie:
  Chronology; Timeline
  Houses of Hogwarts (Sorting, Myers/Briggs, etc.)


Neil:
  Inconsistencies & Mysteries: CoS
  Quidditch
  Snape, Severus  
  Weasley, Ron  


Penny:
  Granger, Hermione
  Adult Fans (NYT Bestseller List, Adult Lit v Childrens Lit, etc.)
 (if she's interest, that is)



Skimmel:
  CoverArt & Covers from Around the World  
  Other Recommended Reading




From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Fri Aug 11 11:41:37 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:41:37 -0000
Subject: Categories - a few suggestions
Message-ID: <8n0oph+a4tn@eGroups.com>

Could we add something like 'Magical Devices' to the FAQ list?  
Things like the sneakoscope, pensieve and portkeys (but excluding 
wands).  I don't think there's anything like that on there at the 
moment.  I may as well volunteer to cover the FAQ, since I've 
mentioned it.

Also, are the ghosts covered under Hogwarts or could they go under a 
broader 'Magical Animals and Beings' category? Or is that too much of 
an overlap with Mythology? 

I mentioned to Melanie that 'Casting' could go under 
a 'Film/Merchandise' FAQ (offshoots of the books series).

The 'JK Rowling' category could include '...and Publishers'.

I'm not volunteering for all of these at the moment, BTW!  

Neil







From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Fri Aug 11 11:57:40 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:57:40 -0000
Subject: Index - link
Message-ID: <8n0pnk+n81o@eGroups.com>

I've added Paul's Index page to the links here, as I keep fogetting 
the URL.  

Neil 




From linsenma at hic.net  Fri Aug 11 12:37:49 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 07:37:49 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Master List of FAQs
References: <8n070s+7cjq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3993F39D.ED2A728F@hic.net>

Hi:

Melanie Moore wrote:

> In additon to the requests and assignments I've received, I've given
> myself dibs (am I allowed to do that?) on the Houses at Hogwarts and
> the Chronology/Timeline.

Definitely!!!  I meant to say that -- Melanie & I get to put dibs on
things too.  :--)

> I've also tentatively put Penny down for the category that includes
> the New York Times bestseller list (I know how apathetic you are about
> that one, Penny <g>).

Cool.  Happy to do that one & advocate my "cause" in great detail!

I'd like to also put dibs on "Inconsistencies & Mysteries: PoA."  Also,
Sirius Black, Fanfiction & Romance Pairings.  I'm going to see if I
can't add these myself.  Ooh, I did!  How exciting!  Another technical
skill mastered successfully.

I'll *suggest* that either Neil or Simon should take "Character Accents"
(probably more appropriate than one of us Yanks taking a stab at that
one).

I was going to ask you Neil if you knew anything about Simon's
whereabouts.  Very out of character.  Hopefully, he will rejoin us
soon.  His new term wouldn't have started up yet, would it?

Neil wrote:

> Could we add something like 'Magical Devices' to the FAQ list?
> Things like the sneakoscope, pensieve and portkeys (but excluding
> wands).  I don't think there's anything like that on there at the
> moment.  I may as well volunteer to cover the FAQ, since I've
> mentioned it.
>
That's a great idea.  I assume Mr. Weasley's car would fit into that
category as well.  <g>

> Also, are the ghosts covered under Hogwarts or could they go under a
> broader 'Magical Animals and Beings' category? Or is that too much of
> an overlap with Mythology?
>
I originally thought the Ghosts would go under "Hogwarts" but I think
now I might prefer the "Magical Animals & Beings" category.  Heidi --
does that overlap too much with what you wanted to do with "Mythology"??

> I mentioned to Melanie that 'Casting' could go under
> a 'Film/Merchandise' FAQ (offshoots of the books series).
>
Good point.

> The 'JK Rowling' category could include '...and Publishers'.
>
Another excellent point.

FYI -- I'll be out of town this weekend, and very likely computer-less.
So, I may not be in touch for about 48 hrs starting late this
afternoon.  Hopefully, I'll come back & everyone will have volunteered
for the remaining FAQs.  Just kidding, just kidding.

Penny
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From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Fri Aug 11 13:16:37 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:16:37 -0000
Subject: Master List of FAQs
In-Reply-To: <3993F39D.ED2A728F@hic.net>
Message-ID: <8n0ubl+av6u@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer 
<linsenma at h...> wrote:
.
> 
> FYI -- I'll be out of town this weekend, and very likely computer-
less.
> So, I may not be in touch for about 48 hrs starting late this
> afternoon.  Hopefully, I'll come back & everyone will have 
volunteered
> for the remaining FAQs.  Just kidding, just kidding.
> 
> Penny

I agree on the 'Accents' topic, but I'll wait and see if Simon wants 
to do it before allocating it to myself...    

Have a nice weekend Penny! 

Melanie, it looks like only you and Penny can edit the Master FAQ 
List, otherwise I would have made some of the changes noted above.

Neil 





From linsenma at hic.net  Fri Aug 11 13:34:13 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 08:34:13 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Master List of FAQs
References: <8n0ubl+av6u@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <399400D5.11466E01@hic.net>

Hi:

Neil Ward wrote:

> Melanie, it looks like only you and Penny can edit the Master FAQ
> List, otherwise I would have made some of the changes noted above.
>

I changed the settings on that table so that any "group subscriber" can
make changes to the table.  See if that works Neil.  If not, we'll have
to get the real Technical Expert (Melanie) involved.

Penny
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From heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu  Fri Aug 11 13:32:36 2000
From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu (Tandy, Heidi)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 09:32:36 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Master List of FAQs
Message-ID: <1AB004C24D4CD311A19D0008C75F90EF0107A750@FTLEXC1>

I can see ghosts being proper under the HOGWARTS section because they're not
really mythological, and I can cross reference to you, but the magical
animals & beings is really the mythology section under a different name -
I'd rather subtitle part of mythology than have them be separate sections.
To me, owls, wewwolves, animagi, cats and toads are also part of this
section (which means rats that aren't really rats and therefore cannot turn
yellow when spells are performed on them are in this section too)
 
Also, dibbs on the Potter parents (since they're my character on the group
anyway), Stouffer litigation (my pet cause) and any other copyright and
trademark issues (including the one I posted about this week about pirated
copies of the books on teh net) and I'll take Merchandise as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer [mailto:linsenma at hic.net]
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 8:38 AM
To: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com
Subject: Re: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Master List of FAQs


Hi: 

Also, are the ghosts covered under Hogwarts or could they go under a 

broader 'Magical Animals and Beings' category? Or is that too much of 

an overlap with Mythology?

I originally thought the Ghosts would go under "Hogwarts" but I think now I
might prefer the "Magical Animals & Beings" category.  Heidi -- does that
overlap too much with what you wanted to do with "Mythology"?? 

 
  



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From linsenma at hic.net  Fri Aug 11 14:37:03 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 09:37:03 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Master List of FAQs
References: <8n0nqp+beas@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <39940F8F.AB7D59A6@hic.net>

Hi Sam --

Sam Dickinson wrote:

> HELP!
>
> I tried to post a message yesterday and it doesn't seemed to have
> worked.  I'm hoping this reply works.

This worked!  I got your message anyway.

> In my group of messages, I have the round-robin FanFic, "How Hagrid
> Becomes a Hero". SHould I just write down all the message numbers of
> the story, or cut and paste into a single document?  What would be
> easier for the FAQ Committee?

Hmmm. .  We never finished it.  <g>  Maybe just make a note of the
message numbers.  What do others think?  Since it was never completed,
I'd be inclined to leave it out of the FAQs.  But, I could be persuaded
otherwise.

Penny

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From melaniem68 at home.com  Fri Aug 11 16:35:45 2000
From: melaniem68 at home.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:35:45 -0000
Subject: Master List of FAQs
In-Reply-To: <8n0nqp+beas@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8n1a11+p07h@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "Sam Dickinson" <siberiapar at a...> wrote:
> HELP!
> 
> I tried to post a message yesterday and it doesn't seemed to have 
> worked.  I'm hoping this reply works.
> 
> In my group of messages, I have the round-robin FanFic, "How Hagrid 
> Becomes a Hero". SHould I just write down all the message numbers 
of 
> the story, or cut and paste into a single document?  What would be 
> easier for the FAQ Committee?
> 
> THANKS!
> 
> Sam :)


Oooh, I'd forgotten about that story!  By all means, cut and paste it 
into one document!  In fact, unless someone else has a burning desire 
to be in charge of that story, I'll do it.  I even have a visual of 
how it can appear on a web page: with a different color font (or 
different "handwriting style" font) for each participant.

Melanie




From melaniem68 at home.com  Fri Aug 11 16:56:39 2000
From: melaniem68 at home.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:56:39 -0000
Subject: Round-Robin fanfic
In-Reply-To: <39940F8F.AB7D59A6@hic.net>
Message-ID: <8n1b87+9lu1@eGroups.com>

> Hmmm. .  We never finished it.  <g>  Maybe just make a note of the
> message numbers.  What do others think?  Since it was never 
> completed, I'd be inclined to leave it out of the FAQs.  But, I
> could be persuaded otherwise.
> 
> Penny

I hadn't yet read this post, when I posted the one stating the 
opposite <g>.  I guess my "web designer" vision got in the way of 
everything else.

As to whether it should be included, I'd say that depends on how 
extensive we want it to be.  If it's to only include frequent 
discussions and questions, I think we should leave the story out.  
But if it's to include posters' creativity (Neil's parodies, 
Catlady's imaginative scenarios, Randy's songs, etc), I think the 
story should be included as well.  That's only one person's opinion, 
however.

Who knows?  This may be a way to revive the story.  Since we've had 
plenty of "new blood" since then (I think it's before even Neil's 
time), maybe the newer members would be interested in taking a crack 
at it.

If we decide to keep it out, maybe I could adopt it for the "round-
robin fanfic" section I've been meaning to start on my own web site 
(with Voicelady's permission, of course).

Thoughts, anyone?

Melanie






From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Fri Aug 11 18:39:32 2000
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:39:32 -0000
Subject: Simon and the cloak of invisibility
In-Reply-To: <8n083d+ai7f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8n1h94+pkp8@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "Neil Ward" <neilward at d...> wrote:
> Has anyone heard anything of Simon?  He hasn't posted anything for 
> days, and he's not joined up here yet.  It seems a bit out of 
> character...


I have been on holiday for a few days and got back early this 
afternoon. I will get on with my section of messages soon. I just 
need to find the message in teh 600 from Yahoo in the last few days.

As for what exactly is happening... I am not entirely sure. Will try 
to help out with the comittee stage as required.

Simon




From linsenma at hic.net  Fri Aug 11 19:23:21 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:23:21 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Simon and the cloak of invisibility
References: <8n1h94+pkp8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <399452A4.56D82C87@hic.net>

Hi Simon!!!

Glad you're back -- we were worried about you!

Melanie has the message assignments in a table under Databases in our
egroups.  But, your message assignment is 4201 - 4550 Simon -- I just
checked.

We've given ourselves a deadline of the last week in August, so the FAQs
committee can start creating the FAQs.  You might also want to look at
the Master List of FAQs, also in the Databases section.  The Committee
members have already started putting "dibs" on the ones they want.

You know, whoever does Snape is really going to have a job.  There's
been a fair bit of speculation about him -- all of which is very
interesting & valid.

Penny

simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk wrote:

> --- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "Neil Ward" <neilward at d...> wrote:
> > Has anyone heard anything of Simon?  He hasn't posted anything for
> > days, and he's not joined up here yet.  It seems a bit out of
> > character...
>
>
> I have been on holiday for a few days and got back early this
> afternoon. I will get on with my section of messages soon. I just
> need to find the message in teh 600 from Yahoo in the last few days.
>
> As for what exactly is happening... I am not entirely sure. Will try
> to help out with the comittee stage as required.
>
> Simon
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com
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From linsenma at hic.net  Fri Aug 11 19:25:59 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:25:59 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Round-Robin fanfic
References: <8n1b87+9lu1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <39945347.C7FFEDF2@hic.net>

Hi:

Melanie Moore wrote:

> I hadn't yet read this post, when I posted the one stating the
> opposite <g>.  I guess my "web designer" vision got in the way of
> everything else.
>
> As to whether it should be included, I'd say that depends on how
> extensive we want it to be.  If it's to only include frequent
> discussions and questions, I think we should leave the story out.
> But if it's to include posters' creativity (Neil's parodies,
> Catlady's imaginative scenarios, Randy's songs, etc), I think the
> story should be included as well.  That's only one person's opinion,
> however.

> Who knows?  This may be a way to revive the story.  Since we've had
> plenty of "new blood" since then (I think it's before even Neil's
> time), maybe the newer members would be interested in taking a crack
> at it.

You know, you're right Melanie.  We should put it in the Humor section
with Randy's songs & the various anagrams & puzzles & games.  As well as
Neil's parodies & Catlady's musings.  And, you're right -- perhaps we
can some new blood to finish it off.

Penny

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From linsenma at hic.net  Fri Aug 11 19:38:53 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:38:53 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Master List of FAQs
References: <1AB004C24D4CD311A19D0008C75F90EF0107A750@FTLEXC1>
Message-ID: <3994564D.CD14AEA4@hic.net>

Hi:

"Tandy, Heidi" wrote:

I think Heidi's suggestion re: Mythology & Magical Creatures sounds fine
to me.

I had created a FAQ for Animal Characters though -- and my thought was
that would be where we would discuss Hedwig, Pig, Crookshanks, Scabbers,
etc.  My personal thought is that magical creatures would be more the
unicorns, hippogriffs, phoenixes (although Fawkes is also a character so
he could be cross-referenced).  But, if others want to just combine them
all into Mythology & Magical Creatures, that's fine with me.

Heidi, I added you to Stouffer Lawsuit, Merchandise & the Potter
parents.

Thanks!

Penny

> I can see ghosts being proper under the HOGWARTS section because
> they're not really mythological, and I can cross reference to you, but
> the magical animals & beings is really the mythology section under a
> different name - I'd rather subtitle part of mythology than have them
> be separate sections. To me, owls, wewwolves, animagi, cats and toads
> are also part of this section (which means rats that aren't really
> rats and therefore cannot turn yellow when spells are performed on
> them are in this section too)
>  Also, dibbs on the Potter parents (since they're my character on the
> group anyway), Stouffer litigation (my pet cause) and any other
> copyright and trademark issues (including the one I posted about this
> week about pirated copies of the books on teh net) and I'll take
> Merchandise as well.
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From linsenma at hic.net  Fri Aug 11 19:41:56 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:41:56 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] See you in a few days
References: <8n0adm+3d5u@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <39945704.B54BFDFD@hic.net>

Paul --

Hope you have (had) a great trip!  When you get back & get your feet on
the ground again, could you walk me through how to access the HP4GU
Message Archives (on zoom.com)?  I pulled it up just fine on Sunday, but
the text option (?) that used to be there seems to be missing.  When I
click on the updated files, I get a message telling me I need to
download a plugin or something in order to read the files.

Sorry!  I'm *so* technically challenged but maybe you can help me figure
this out since it's such a great resource (and both list-moms should
know how it works!).

Thanks --

Penny

Paul Kippes wrote:

> Everyone,
>
> I made a quick update to the message archive since its been growing
> so fast.  Also, I be away from technology this weekend and I fear
> that I'll have about 1000 new messages to deal with when I get back.
>
> I'll get my work done on the FAQ once I return.  School crept up on
> me unexpectedly.  Distance learning--can't stand it!
>
> Happy reading!
> Paul
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From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Fri Aug 11 20:08:27 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 20:08:27 -0000
Subject: Snape...
In-Reply-To: <399452A4.56D82C87@hic.net>
Message-ID: <8n1mfr+106e@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer 
<linsenma at h...> wrote:

> You know, whoever does Snape is really going to have a job.  There's
> been a fair bit of speculation about him -- all of which is very
> interesting & valid.

Like a fool, I volunteered for Snape.  But I'm doing him for the 
character summaries as well, so it makes sense...

Neil





From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Fri Aug 11 21:28:39 2000
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 21:28:39 -0000
Subject: Simon and the cloak of invisibility
In-Reply-To: <399452A4.56D82C87@hic.net>
Message-ID: <8n1r67+nbho@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer 
<linsenma at h...> wrote:
> Hi Simon!!!
> 
> Glad you're back -- we were worried about you!

It is nice to know people care. This was only a few days away. I 
think I am going away for a few more days at the end of the month!

> Melanie has the message assignments in a table under Databases in  
> our egroups.  But, your message assignment is 4201 - 4550 Simon -- 

Have already made a start. Am I right in guessing that I need to add 
my message to the database started (called FORT) once I have 
finished? I have tried to read all teh meassages quickly but got a 
bit lost!
 
> We've given ourselves a deadline of the last week in August, so the 
> FAQs committee can start creating the FAQs.  You might also want to 
> look at the Master List of FAQs, also in the Databases section.     
> The Committee  members have already started putting "dibs" on the  
> ones they want.

I might just go and grab some of the FAQ's now! Have taken the ones 
listed below. If anyone has a problem with this then let me know and 
we can come to some arrangement. I may take a few more soon. Depends 
how I feel.
Animal Characters, Predictions for 5,6,7 (seeing as I seem to make 
lots of them!), Weasley Family and Lord Voldemort.

Am I right in guessing that we may in some way have to decide on how 
we will maintain this FAQ's. Are we going to be responsible for the 
ones we selcect now?

Simon




From Ebonyteach at aol.com  Fri Aug 11 21:33:26 2000
From: Ebonyteach at aol.com (Ebonyteach at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:33:26 EDT
Subject: FAQ topic
Message-ID: <c6.93cace3.26c5cb26@aol.com>

Hi, everyone~~

All the good topics are taken!  I wanted to work on Quidditch or MWPP... oh 
well.  :(  

Unless someone else has it, I'd like to do a FAQ on social issues in the 
wizarding world (social order of Magic vs. Halfblood vs. Muggle-born, etc.; 
stereotypes of house-elves, werewolves, giants, etc.).  I'll also do any 
racial and gender diversity subtopics if applicable, since I've seen those 
question crop up a few times in the short period I've been on list...

I'm not sure where any of this would fit in.  Suggestions?

Plowing through my messages now,

Ebony AKA AngieJ



From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Fri Aug 11 21:43:17 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 21:43:17 -0000
Subject: Simon and the cloak of invisibility
In-Reply-To: <8n1r67+nbho@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8n1s1l+f22r@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, simon.branford at h... wrote:

 
> Have already made a start. Am I right in guessing that I need to
add 
> my message to the database started (called FORT) once I have 
> finished? I have tried to read all teh meassages quickly but got a 
> bit lost!

I *think* we are creating our own summary files and loading those 
under 'Files' and also posting the individual message #s in FORT, 
under 'Databases'.  Last time I looked at FORT there were just a few 
things that Paul (smitster) had put in it and now it looks full, so I 
guess people copied theirs in!

There's also an Assignments list, so you can mark when you finished 
scanning the batch, and I put a link to Paul's xoom site in 'Links' 
(that has all the message files zipped and he's updating it now and 
then).

I think that's it!

Neil




>  
> > We've given ourselves a deadline of the last week in August, so 
the 
> > FAQs committee can start creating the FAQs.  You might also want 
to 
> > look at the Master List of FAQs, also in the Databases section.   
  
> > The Committee  members have already started putting "dibs" on the 
 
> > ones they want.
> 
> I might just go and grab some of the FAQ's now! Have taken the ones 
> listed below. If anyone has a problem with this then let me know
and 
> we can come to some arrangement. I may take a few more soon.
Depends 
> how I feel.
> Animal Characters, Predictions for 5,6,7 (seeing as I seem to make 
> lots of them!), Weasley Family and Lord Voldemort.
> 
> Am I right in guessing that we may in some way have to decide on
how 
> we will maintain this FAQ's. Are we going to be responsible for the 
> ones we selcect now?
> 
> Simon




From melaniem68 at home.com  Fri Aug 11 23:28:20 2000
From: melaniem68 at home.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 23:28:20 -0000
Subject: FAQ topic
In-Reply-To: <c6.93cace3.26c5cb26@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8n226k+92tk@eGroups.com>

> Unless someone else has it, I'd like to do a FAQ on social
> issues in the wizarding world (social order of Magic vs.
> Halfblood vs. Muggle-born, etc.; stereotypes of house-elves,
> werewolves, giants, etc.). 

That's a good idea, Ebony, and I don't think we had such a topic--
until now.  I've just added the topic "Wizarding World: Social 
Issues," and I put your name in before anyone else could snap it up.


> I'll also do any racial and gender diversity subtopics if
> applicable, since I've seen those question crop up a few
> times in the short period I've been on list...

Great!  You're also down for "Racial Diversity in HP".

Thanks again again for all your hard work.

Melanie




From siberiapar at aol.com  Sat Aug 12 01:19:03 2000
From: siberiapar at aol.com (Sam Dickinson)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 01:19:03 -0000
Subject: WHEW
Message-ID: <8n28m7+f30q@eGroups.com>

All done.

I've uploaded what there is of "how Hagrid Became a Hero", and added 
my message numbers to the database.

My group of messages also had a lot of the 'Daily Puzzles".  If you 
all would like, I can go back and save the puzzles and answers as 
files as well.

now, on to reading a gazillion new Yahoo messages!

Sam D. :)




From lj2d30 at gateway.net  Sat Aug 12 04:50:11 2000
From: lj2d30 at gateway.net (lj2d30)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 21:50:11 -0700
Subject: Accessing the post files
Message-ID: <000801c00418$cd2bcd60$117d0b3f@oemcomputer>

Y'all, count me in the group known as the computer illiterate.  I attempted
to download the 2 groups which included my 350 messages, but to no avail. I
couldn't open it.  I then thought of going to the club and printing, but
that would be really hard on my printer and would take for-bloody-ever. What
do I do?

HELP!!!

Trina (who could really use a Summoning charm)





From MMcNie at mmsa.com  Sat Aug 12 01:54:50 2000
From: MMcNie at mmsa.com (McNie, Margaret)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:54:50 -0700
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Lupin/Dumbledore/HELP
Message-ID: <983C4669E4FED2119EE80001FAF833A3674115@XCHNGHQ1>


Thanks Penny and Melanie for your help,

Turned out that I am a member of another egroup for a horse rescue group I'm
involved with. When I tried to register, it said I was already registered.
So maybe I did it when the other group was set up and used an old, forgotten
password. The other group only uses the group email feature so I never have
to go online to egroups for that group. 

Now that I can get into the site, I do have a question about how to classify
messages. If we have a message for instance about the possibility of a
romance between Bill and Fleur, do I just add it to the romance line or do I
also make a note of it in the Weasley line, etc. 


Thanks, 
Margaret


-----Original Message-----
From: Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer [mailto:linsenma at hic.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 5:21 PM
To: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com
Subject: Re: [HP4GU-FAQ] Lupin/Dumbledore/HELP


Margaret --

I'm going to try & help (but my technical competence level is low)!

If you've never used egroups before, then yes, you do need to register.
Go to egroups.com.  Mine "remembers" me so I don't have to sign in each
time.  But, I suspect you do need to register if you've never done so
before.

If you have registered before but it's not accepting your password, is
it possible you've forgotten your password?

Anyway, once egroups lets you in -- this group should be one of the ones
listed on the left-hand side of the screen.  You're sending & receiving
email from this group, so you must be subscribed.

Aacck.  Not sure if I'm helping or not -- maybe someone else will have
suggestions to offer.

Penny

"McNie, Margaret" wrote:

> .K. I finally got started with my messages today. But being an egroups
> virgin, I have no clue how to get into our site. So can someone lead
> me step by step? I did go into egroups.com and tried to use 'my
> groups' but when I put in my email address and the password I always
> use, it said the password was unknown. Do I have to register? (You'd
> think a computer programmer could figure this out, wouldn't you? But
> I'm strictly mainframe. I get really lost with this PC stuff.)
>
> To Melanie, I wouldn't mind doing the maintenance on the Lupin and
> Dumbledore FAQs. I'm assuming there is one for each even if I haven't
> been able to get into our site to see them. I might be able to take
> some of the others when I can see what they are. I'm with Penny
> though; I don't want the casting stuff. I do read it but just to see
> how outrageous it's getting: David McCallum for my Lupin? He's DECADES
> too old, please!
>
> Anyway, thanks in advance to whoever jumps in to help.
>
> Margaret
> (sarvalsha)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Penny Linsenmayer [mailto:linsenma at hic.net]
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 3:05 PM
> To: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com
> Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Master List of FAQs
>
> Hi:
>
> When you have a moment, take a look at the Master List of FAQs that I
> created & put in the "Database" section of our egroups.  We can add &
> edit this as necessary.  It's based on the topical groupings from
> people who've sifted through their messages & my own thoughts. Paul:
> I
> love some of your heading titles (especially New York Times: Evil
> Behavior).  <vbg>
>
> We can change this -- but I started out with the premise that we
> could
> group some sub-topics under a larger topic.  For example, I have a
> FAQ on Hogwarts.  I would expect that would include the theories
> about
> where Hogwarts is located, whether there is tuition, the size of the
> student body, where the professors live & whether they're married or
> not, etc.
>
> Similarly, I set up a FAQ for each of the major characters (I know, I
> forgot Pettigrew -- we'll add him).  The Hermione page would have a
> cross-link to the Names (meanings) FAQ, a physical description of
> Hermione, her personality, a cross-link to the Romance Pairings FAQ,
> the prounciation of her name, etc.
>
> For the Committee:  I've created columns for the name of the person
> creating the FAQ, date of completion & who's responsible for
> maintaining it.  My thought is that once the FAQs are written, we
> might be able to talk some of the other members into volunteering to
> maintain a FAQ or 2.  That way, we, the 5-person Committee, won't be
> trying to maintain 10-15 FAQs each.
>
> Heidi has expressed an interest in the Geography FAQ (where is
> Hogwarts, the Burrow, Diagon Alley, etc.) & the Mythology FAQ.  I am
> placing dibs on Hermione.  I'm assigning "CoverArt" & "Other
> Recommended Reading" to Skimmel if he'll do them. He usually weighs
> in
> heavily on both those topics.  If you're not a member of the 5-person
> "Committee" but want to do one or more of the FAQs, let me know.
> We're more than happy to take your help.  And, I do not want to be
> stuck with Casting.  <g>
>
> Oh, email the group with your "dibs" on various FAQs.  That way
> Melanie will know that Neil has already placed dibs on "Potter,
> Harry"
> for example.  That is, I won't have to sort through & figure out who
> put dibs on something first. You might want to think about initially
> volunteering for one large FAQ and some of the smaller ones.  I
> wanted
> to try & sort them into large ones and then more minor ones, but then
> my head started to hurt.
>
> Is any of this making sense?  <g>
>
> Penny
>
>
> 
>
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From melaniem68 at home.com  Sat Aug 12 06:39:03 2000
From: melaniem68 at home.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 06:39:03 -0000
Subject: WHEW
In-Reply-To: <8n28m7+f30q@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8n2re7+cmu6@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "Sam Dickinson" <siberiapar at a...> wrote:


> All done.
> 
> I've uploaded what there is of "how Hagrid Became a Hero", and
added 
> my message numbers to the database.

Thank you, Sam.  It looks like yours had more work than you bargained 
for, and I apologize for any extra work I gave you with my earlier 
reply.  Thanks for being such a good sport.


> My group of messages also had a lot of the 'Daily Puzzles".  If you 
> all would like, I can go back and save the puzzles and answers as 
> files as well.

I think those would make a good addition to the FAQs.  However, don't 
feel you have to download, or cut and paste all that.  I'll be happy 
to do that part, if I have the cross-reference numbers.


> now, on to reading a gazillion new Yahoo messages!


Ugh! I know what you mean.

Melanie




From melaniem68 at home.com  Sat Aug 12 06:58:13 2000
From: melaniem68 at home.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 06:58:13 -0000
Subject: Accessing the post files
In-Reply-To: <000801c00418$cd2bcd60$117d0b3f@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <8n2si5+rbmf@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "lj2d30" <lj2d30 at g...> wrote:

> Y'all, count me in the group known as the computer illiterate.  I
> attempted to download the 2 groups which included my 350 messages,
> but to no avail. I couldn't open it.  I then thought of going to
> the club and printing, but that would be really hard on my printer
> and would take for-bloody-ever. What do I do?
> 
> HELP!!!
> 
> Trina (who could really use a Summoning charm)


I hate to say this, but I just tried to unsuccessfully to open it, 
myself.  I guess my computer is missing the right program (a Zip 
driver?).  Is there anyone out there with some advice for me AND 
Trina?  Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

I don't know if this is an option for you, Trina (and others with the 
same problem), but here is how I've been going about it. 

1) I went to the club's home page, to the point where it gives the 
option to type in a message number, and go to that message.

2) I typed in 5601 (which is the first of my messages, you'll want to 
change that number to the first of your own messages).  Message 5601 
popped up.

3) From there, I clicked on the "View all messages" link.  That gave 
me a list of 40 consecutive messages, most of which were in my group. 
I printed that page.

4) I clicked the "Next 40", and printed the page that came up, then 
the "Next 40" after that, until I reached the last of "my" messages 
(about ten pages printed).

5) I crossed out the messages that were not in my group (there will
be 
a few on the first and/or last page), and am now using the printout
as 
a checklist, as I go through the messages on line.

Those who have to pay for every minute they spend on line, or have 
other time limitations may not be able to use this method, but others 
may want to consider it.  If anyone would like to try this, and needs 
clarification on the instructions, let me know.

Thanks,
Melanie




From melaniem68 at home.com  Sat Aug 12 07:16:54 2000
From: melaniem68 at home.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 07:16:54 -0000
Subject: Multi-category posts
In-Reply-To: <983C4669E4FED2119EE80001FAF833A3674115@XCHNGHQ1>
Message-ID: <8n2tl6+tjp6@eGroups.com>

> Now that I can get into the site, I do have a question about
> how to classify messages. If we have a message for instance
> about the possibility of a romance between Bill and Fleur,
> do I just add it to the romance line or do I also make a note
> of it in the Weasley line, etc. 


Good question, Margaret.  Yes, some messages will qualify for more 
than one category.  You may even need to make up a category, if it's 
not already listed.

IMHO, the character categories should be for messages that go
somewhat in-depth to analyze the character, or to theorize about 
him/her, rather than every message that menions him/her.  The same 
goes for "family" categories.  If a post analyzes the family itself, 
or one of its members, the post should go into that family category, 
but not if it just mentions them.  Where to draw the line, I would
say is a judgement call.

To use your example of the Fleur-Bill romance post, I'd say it
depends on how in-depth it goes.  If the post just suggested the 
possibility, or pointed out the way Fleur looked at Bill when the 
Weasleys visited, I'd say just put it under the "Romance" category.  
If it went more in depth to describe *why* they should or shouldn't 
get together, then I would say it should go under "Romance", as
well as the character categories for "Bill" (and/or "the Weasleys") 
and "Fleur".

Did that make sense?  What do the rest of you think?

Melanie




From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Sat Aug 12 09:06:34 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 09:06:34 -0000
Subject: Accessing the post files
In-Reply-To: <8n2si5+rbmf@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8n342q+32hb@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "Melanie Moore" <melaniem68 at h...> wrote:
 
> I hate to say this, but I just tried to unsuccessfully to open it, 
> myself.  I guess my computer is missing the right program (a Zip 
> driver?).  Is there anyone out there with some advice for me AND 
> Trina?  Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

Sounds like you need some unzip software.  The common ones are Winzip 
and PKzip/PKunzip.  It's worth searching your computer files for 
Winzip.* or PKunzip.* as they may be on there somewhere (I think 
Winzip is part of the Windows package, if you use that).

If not, here is a link to a site where you can download Winzip free
of 
charge:

http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10097-100-1757502.html?tag=st.dl.
10001_103_1.lst.td

Once you have the software, save the zip files to your hard drive, 
and (if using Winzip) run the software and select the HP zip files to 
be unzipped.  It will probably create a folder with the zip file name 
and the expanded txt files will be in the folder.  

PKunzip is more DOS-based I think.  You have to tell it where the zip 
file is located and where you want the unzipped files stored, then it 
will chug through, inflating all the files.  Winzip is better, I 
think.

The thought of scanning the messages online fills me with horror, as 
I pay normal phone rates for online time [the UK is in the dark ages 
on Internet access, but getting better). It's really much easier 
scrolling through the grouped text files and you can search them too!

Neil 




From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Sat Aug 12 09:10:49 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 09:10:49 -0000
Subject: Accessing the post files
In-Reply-To: <8n342q+32hb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8n34ap+qo7h@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "Neil Ward" <neilward at d...> wrote:

> If not, here is a link to a site where you can download Winzip free
> of 
> charge:

> 
http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10097-100-1757502.html?tag=st.dl.
> 10001_103_1.lst.td

Okay - the line break put paid to that link.  Try

http://download.cnet.com/

...and search for Winzip.  Choose the link at the top of the list on 
that page - that seems pretty popular.

Neil




From joy0823 at earthlink.net  Sat Aug 12 16:27:15 2000
From: joy0823 at earthlink.net (- Joy -)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 12:27:15 -0400
Subject: FAQs
Message-ID: <00c201c0047c$4c000760$0100000a@joywelan>

Can I have the character names and book banning FAQs...?

~Joy~




From joy0823 at earthlink.net  Sat Aug 12 16:29:53 2000
From: joy0823 at earthlink.net (- Joy -)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 12:29:53 -0400
Subject: Database
Message-ID: <00c301c0047c$4c864e60$0100000a@joywelan>

Should I put my messages into the database?  If so, can anyone explain how?
I've never used the database function before.

~Joy~




From melaniem68 at home.com  Sat Aug 12 18:41:25 2000
From: melaniem68 at home.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 18:41:25 -0000
Subject: FAQs
In-Reply-To: <00c201c0047c$4c000760$0100000a@joywelan>
Message-ID: <8n45ol+2h7n@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "- Joy -" <joy0823 at e...> wrote:

> Can I have the character names and book banning FAQs...?
> 
> ~Joy~


Absolutely, I have you down for both.  BTW, I put you down as Joy0823 
to distinguish you from the other Joy (Joywitch).  Is there a last 
initial you'd prefer to use?

Melanie




From joy0823 at earthlink.net  Sat Aug 12 18:44:23 2000
From: joy0823 at earthlink.net (- Joy -)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 14:44:23 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: FAQs
References: <8n45ol+2h7n@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <013d01c0048d$5608efe0$0100000a@joywelan>

Nah, Joy0823 is fine.  My name is so short that using initials looks weird
; )

~Joy~

----- Original Message -----
From: "Melanie Moore" <melaniem68 at home.com>
To: <HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 2:41 PM
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: FAQs


> --- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "- Joy -" <joy0823 at e...> wrote:
>
> > Can I have the character names and book banning FAQs...?
> >
> > ~Joy~
>
>
> Absolutely, I have you down for both.  BTW, I put you down as Joy0823
> to distinguish you from the other Joy (Joywitch).  Is there a last
> initial you'd prefer to use?
>
> Melanie
>
>
> 
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com
>
>
>
>




From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Sat Aug 12 19:46:08 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 19:46:08 -0000
Subject: Plodding through..
Message-ID: <8n49i0+2pkl@eGroups.com>

I'm about two thirds of the way through my batch, which includes a
ton of the 'casting/accents' posts and most of that stuff against
(and 
for) recapping background information in the books.  A nice post from 
Trina, about Neville Longbottom, is probably my favourite one so far.

I'm being fairly specific in my listing and trying to cross reference 
things, but that will hopefully make it easier to reallocate the #s
to the master list.  

Reading my own posts, I cringe at the typographical errors and 
off-topic nature of many of them.  There also aren't that many, which 
makes me wonder if I really can have posted 500+...

Neil - yawning, as someone over on HP4GU posts on 'gleam in
Dumbledore's eye' *and* 'order of emergence from Harry's wand' in the 
same message.






From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Sun Aug 13 20:01:46 2000
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 20:01:46 -0000
Subject: Plodding through..
In-Reply-To: <8n49i0+2pkl@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8n6ura+mltt@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "Neil Ward" <neilward at d...> wrote:
> I'm about two thirds of the way through my batch, 

I have done about as many - It is quite slow progress!

> Reading my own posts, I cringe at the typographical errors and 
> off-topic nature of many of them.

I noticed how many short messages I send. Must write some proper 
messages from now on! Also I seem to send far too many off topic 
posts. In some ways this FAQ stuff is being very helpful!

Simon




From kippesp at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 14 02:44:46 2000
From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 19:44:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] See you in a few days
Message-ID: <20000814024446.24711.qmail@web2105.mail.yahoo.com>


Penny,

Wow!  High school reunions--gotta love 'em.

Sorry about the files.  I didn't realize that people might not be familure with .zip files.

I've replaced the .zip files with .exe files which, when run, will create a message files.  All you need to do is click a file's link and when the "File Download" dialog box appears, select "Run this program from its current location."  The computer will receive the executable and run it.  When this finishes, you'll be prompted for a directory to store the message file.  Remember your selection.  I typically choose "Desktop" (by Browsing) which is always at the top of the list.

I'll be reading posts tonight and should be able to respond quickly with any difficulties.

One more thing...I'm making this complicated so that the files are kept as small as possible.  I realize that Nick (and possibly Simon) pay by the minute.  Back in the old days (which for me was 1986), I hated making long distance calls longer than necessary.

Paul

  Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer <linsenma at hic.net> wrote: 

Paul -- 

Hope you have (had) a great trip!  When you get back & get your feet on the ground again, could you walk me through how to access the HP4GU Message Archives (on zoom.com)?  I pulled it up just fine on Sunday, but the text option (?) that used to be there seems to be missing.  When I click on the updated files, I get a message telling me I need to download a plugin or something in order to read the files. 

Sorry!  I'm *so* technically challenged but maybe you can help me figure this out since it's such a great resource (and both list-moms should know how it works!). 

Thanks -- 

Penny 

Paul Kippes wrote: 
Everyone, 

I made a quick update to the message archive since its been growing 
so fast.  Also, I be away from technology this weekend and I fear 
that I'll have about 1000 new messages to deal with when I get back. 

I'll get my work done on the FAQ once I return.  School crept up on 
me unexpectedly.  Distance learning--can't stand it! 

Happy reading! 
Paul



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From kippesp at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 14 03:47:11 2000
From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 20:47:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Accessing the post files
Message-ID: <20000814034711.23743.qmail@web2106.mail.yahoo.com>


Obliviate!  I didn't realize people the troubles.  The files up there now should work fine for everyone with and without the Zip program.

Paul


  Neil Ward <neilward at dircon.co.uk> wrote: 
--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "Melanie Moore" wrote:

> I hate to say this, but I just tried to unsuccessfully to open it, 
> myself. I guess my computer is missing the right program (a Zip 
> driver?). Is there anyone out there with some advice for me AND 
> Trina? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

Sounds like you need some unzip software. The common ones are Winzip 
and PKzip/PKunzip. It's worth searching your computer files for 
Winzip.* or PKunzip.* as they may be on there somewhere (I think 
Winzip is part of the Windows package, if you use that).

If not, here is a link to a site where you can download Winzip free
of 
charge:

http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10097-100-1757502.html?tag=st.dl.
10001_103_1.lst.td

Once you have the software, save the zip files to your hard drive, 
and (if using Winzip) run the software and select the HP zip files to 
be unzipped. It will probably create a folder with the zip file name 
and the expanded txt files will be in the folder. 

PKunzip is more DOS-based I think. You have to tell it where the zip 
file is located and where you want the unzipped files stored, then it 
will chug through, inflating all the files. Winzip is better, I 
think.

The thought of scanning the messages online fills me with horror, as 
I pay normal phone rates for online time [the UK is in the dark ages 
on Internet access, but getting better). It's really much easier 
scrolling through the grouped text files and you can search them too!

Neil 


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From linsenma at hic.net  Mon Aug 14 14:37:35 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 09:37:35 -0500
Subject: Simon and the cloak of invisibility
References: <8n1r67+nbho@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3998042F.454E5487@hic.net>

Hi:

simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk wrote:

> Am I right in guessing that we may in some way have to decide on how
> we will maintain this FAQ's. Are we going to be responsible for the
> ones we selcect now?

I'm hoping that we won't have to maintain more than 1-3 each.  I'm
hoping that other members of the group will express an interest in
maintaining (updating) 1 FAQ each.  We've got about 55 or so FAQs at
this point -- if we could get 25 members who were all willing to update
1 or 2 of them, that would be helpful.  Of course, this may be
unrealistic, so we may end up maintaining more than 1-3 apiece.

I'm glad to see that some of the volunteers are wanting to write up some
of the FAQs.  But, please don't feel that you have to.  I envisioned
getting 20 or more volunteers to comb through groups of messages, and we
have about 20 volunteers I think.  I then envisioned that the FAQs
Committee (me, Melanie, Heidi, Neil & Simon) would write the FAQs based
on the efforts of the group of 20.  But, I am more than willing
(thrilled!!!) for some of you to join our Committee and help with
writing some of the FAQs.  It will get accomplished so much more quickly
that way. Carole -- I'll even give up the Sirius FAQ if you want to
write it.  <g>  But, as a volunteer, you needn't feel obligated to
volunteer to write any of the FAQs.  If all you want to do is comb
through a group of 350 messages & that's it, that's completely fine too.

Penny (who came back to 250+ messages after a 48 hr absence!)
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From kippesp at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 14 17:44:44 2000
From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 10:44:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Re: Simon and the cloak of invisibility
Message-ID: <20000814174444.24688.qmail@web2103.mail.yahoo.com>


 Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer <linsenma at hic.net> wrote: 
Hi: 

simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk wrote: 
Am I right in guessing that we may in some way have to decide on how 
we will maintain this FAQ's. Are we going to be responsible for the 
ones we selcect now?I'm hoping that we won't have to maintain more than 1-3 each.  I'm hoping that other members of the group will express an interest in maintaining (updating) 1 FAQ each.  We've got about 55 or so FAQs at this point -- if we could get 25 members who were all willing to update 1 or 2 of them, that would be helpful.  Of course, this may be unrealistic, so we may end up maintaining more than 1-3 apiece. 

I would hope that some of the FAQs wouldn't require maintanance.  I finally started going through mine last night and was adding things that wern't really asked, but just talked about a bit.  One question that was never asked (and I'll add to the database soon) is "Why does your club have so many members?"  Of course the answer if the question is kept may be "We're cool.  And free advertising in national newspapers and on Yahoo! helped a bit."

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From linsenma at hic.net  Mon Aug 14 21:41:43 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny Linsenmayer)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:41:43 -0000
Subject: FAQs
Message-ID: <8n9p2n+nrt4@eGroups.com>

Hi:

I've given Sirius Black FAQ to Carole, and I've taken Hogwarts for 
myself.  If anyone else was thinking strongly of taking Hogwarts,
I'll 
give it up as I've got several of the "big" FAQs on my plate.  But, I 
like the idea of handling the theories on the location, student 
population & so forth.  

I'm going to try & write up one of my "smaller" FAQs as a "go-by" 
formatting-wise -- I'll do this as soon as all the volunteer messages 
are finished up.  Need to get going on my own set as well.  <g>

Melanie -- I'll start in with the techie questions already.  What 
program is it best to use in writing the FAQs?  What will be most 
easily converted for you (is it converted to HTML)??  We should 
probably all use the same program (if possible).

While I'm thinking about it -- Melanie can you think of a good way to 
spotlight the ULR for our message archives (that Paul created) on the 
Club homepage?  Yahoo has so many limitations.  I'm really hopeful
the 
egroups merger will give us more flexibility.    

Penny




From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Mon Aug 14 22:27:55 2000
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon Branford)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 23:27:55 +0100
Subject: Yipee..........
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINMEKECGAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

Finally I have finished going through my messages! Now I just have to get
the information into the database!

Simon




From kippesp at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 14 22:47:22 2000
From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:47:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] FAQs
Message-ID: <20000814224722.14679.qmail@web2102.mail.yahoo.com>


Penny Linsenmayer <linsenma at hic.net> wrote: 

While I'm thinking about it -- Melanie can you think of a good way to 
spotlight the ULR for our message archives (that Paul created) on the 
Club homepage? Yahoo has so many limitations. I'm really hopeful
the 
egroups merger will give us more flexibility. 

 

I felt this same way about Yahoo! clubs using a club to communicate with on school group project.  We ended up off loading all the links onto a regular web site.  This allowed us to catagorize things.  That way, just a single link remained on the Yahoo! club and directed everyone to a central location.

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From joy0823 at earthlink.net  Tue Aug 15 00:56:45 2000
From: joy0823 at earthlink.net (- Joy -)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:56:45 -0400
Subject: Sorry...
Message-ID: <017901c00653$afc13160$0100000a@joywelan>

I'm not going to be able to do the two FAQs that I volunteered for.  Those
were character names and book banning.  I'm going to be busier than I
thought with work and school, and I don't want to do a shoddy job because of
lack of time.  If there's anything else I can do to help, let me know.

~Joy~




From joy0823 at earthlink.net  Tue Aug 15 03:20:45 2000
From: joy0823 at earthlink.net (- Joy -)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 23:20:45 -0400
Subject: Database
Message-ID: <01c201c00667$cdf41ee0$0100000a@joywelan>

I finally put my messages in.  But, I couldn't figure out how to add to what
was already there.  So, there might be some duplicate topics or similar
themes under different headings.  Sorry about that!

~Joy~




From melaniem68 at home.com  Tue Aug 15 08:02:05 2000
From: melaniem68 at home.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 00 01:02:05 -0700
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] FAQs
Message-ID: <20000815075548.UBBY6839.femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx82773-a.elcjn1.sdca.home.com>

> Melanie -- I'll start in with the techie questions already.  What 
> program is it best to use in writing the FAQs?  What will be most 
> easily converted for you (is it converted to HTML)??  We should 
> probably all use the same program (if possible).

I could convert to HTML from any word processing program.  I just need to insert HTML tags around the text to format it for the web.  I have access to both WordPerfect (up to 9.0, but I'm more comfortable with 7.0) and Word 97.  Why don't you give us your "go by" document in one of those two, formatted as you visualize it.  The rest of the documents can be given to me in either program, or in plain text, and I can set them up to look like the "go by" one.  Does that make sense.




> While I'm thinking about it -- Melanie can you think of a good way to 
> spotlight the ULR for our message archives (that Paul created) on the 
> Club homepage?  Yahoo has so many limitations.  I'm really hopeful
> the egroups merger will give us more flexibility.    

I have a couple of possibilities.

1) Put in the "Links" section (which won't spotlight it, but will make it accessible).

2) For the "Founder's Home Page" link, replace the current FAQ with Paul's archives.

3) I can spotlight and link to it on the current FAQ page.


BTW, I can see you were an English major, Penny.  You haven't fallen into the "Hopefully" trap, that has caught so many--even many English majors I know.  Even me! <g>

Melanie



From melaniem68 at home.com  Tue Aug 15 08:17:39 2000
From: melaniem68 at home.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 00 01:17:39 -0700
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Database
Message-ID: <20000815081121.UDTN6839.femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx82773-a.elcjn1.sdca.home.com>

> I finally put my messages in.  But, I couldn't figure out how to
> add to what was already there.  So, there might be some
> duplicate topics or similar themes under different headings. 
> Sorry about that!
> 
> ~Joy~

Thank you, Joy.  As for not being able to add to prewritten topics, I'll take responsibility for that.  I never answered your how-to question.  It looks like you figured out quite a bit about the database, however.  In case you need to know in the future, you can add numbers into prewritten topics by clicking the pencil (edit record) icon next to the appropriate topic.

For anyone who is having trouble with the database, go ahead and hand in the categories and message numbers you've found. I'll put them into the database for you. Hey, it's the least "techie list mom" can do! :-)  

For me, the hard part will be figuring out when to consolidate similar topics!  I'm sure the rest of you had/will have the same problem when going through the messages.  I'm finished scanning, but still need to database them myself.

Melanie



From linsenma at hic.net  Tue Aug 15 13:49:20 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 08:49:20 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Database
References: <01c201c00667$cdf41ee0$0100000a@joywelan>
Message-ID: <39994A5F.56E4B7EF@hic.net>

Hi Joy --

> I finally put my messages in.  But, I couldn't figure out how to add to what
> was already there.  So, there might be some duplicate topics or similar
> themes under different headings.  Sorry about that!

Sorry about the technical difficulties.  Could you send me or Melanie the ones
that didn't really fit into any of the topics in the database?  We can then be
sure that they get entered in under the right topic.  You can email it or send
it in Word, Excel or Word Perfect.  Whatever you were using is fine.  Thanks
again for your help!!!

Penny





From joy0823 at earthlink.net  Tue Aug 15 21:05:13 2000
From: joy0823 at earthlink.net (- Joy -)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 17:05:13 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Database
References: <01c201c00667$cdf41ee0$0100000a@joywelan> <39994A5F.56E4B7EF@hic.net>
Message-ID: <008301c006fc$81bdd1c0$0100000a@joywelan>

Penny,

I didn't leave any of my messages out of the database... I just made my own
categories, instead of looking for similar ones and adding the numbers.  If
you want to consolidate them, I uploaded my list of topics.  I believe the
file name is 1751-2100.

~Joy~

----- Original Message -----
From: "Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer" <linsenma at hic.net>
To: <HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [HP4GU-FAQ] Database


> Hi Joy --
>
> > I finally put my messages in.  But, I couldn't figure out how to add to
what
> > was already there.  So, there might be some duplicate topics or similar
> > themes under different headings.  Sorry about that!
>
> Sorry about the technical difficulties.  Could you send me or Melanie the
ones
> that didn't really fit into any of the topics in the database?  We can
then be
> sure that they get entered in under the right topic.  You can email it or
send
> it in Word, Excel or Word Perfect.  Whatever you were using is fine.
Thanks
> again for your help!!!
>
> Penny
>
>
>
> 
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com
>
>
>
>




From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Tue Aug 15 21:31:20 2000
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:31:20 -0000
Subject: Database
In-Reply-To: <01c201c00667$cdf41ee0$0100000a@joywelan>
Message-ID: <8nccr8+ka3v@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "- Joy -" <joy0823 at e...> wrote:
> I finally put my messages in.  But, I couldn't figure out how to 
add to what
> was already there.  So, there might be some duplicate topics or 
similar
> themes under different headings.  Sorry about that!

I have also added my messages to the database. I have tried to put 
all names in teh form of surname, forename.

Simon




From kippesp at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 16 02:17:45 2000
From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 02:17:45 -0000
Subject: Unanswerable FAQ
Message-ID: <8nctk9+3b2s@eGroups.com>

Is it alright to skip adding items to the FAQ when the answer is not 
know.  Go to Message 2622 and all derivations there of for several 
questions.  For example, one would is "Why doesn't Lupin transform 
into a werewolf at the sight of the Boggart appearing as a full moon?"

There are many good reasons why this is.  However, the answer is 
still unknown.

Currently, I'm skipping such things.  Does anyone disagree?

Paul





From kippesp at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 16 07:53:48 2000
From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 07:53:48 -0000
Subject: Unanswerable FAQ
In-Reply-To: <8nctk9+3b2s@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8ndhac+2fls@eGroups.com>

This obviously shows how behind I am on the posts.  Post #6273 
answers that the FAQ will cover speculation.

Onward and upward--but must sleep first,
Paul

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "Paul Kippes" <kippesp at y...> wrote:
> Is it alright to skip adding items to the FAQ when the answer is 
not 
> know.  Go to Message 2622 and all derivations there of for several 
> questions.  For example, one would is "Why doesn't Lupin transform 
> into a werewolf at the sight of the Boggart appearing as a full 
moon?"
> 
> There are many good reasons why this is.  However, the answer is 
> still unknown.
> 
> Currently, I'm skipping such things.  Does anyone disagree?
> 
> Paul




From linsenma at hic.net  Wed Aug 16 13:34:51 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny Linsenmayer)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:34:51 -0000
Subject: Remaining FAQs
Message-ID: <8ne59r+lsn7@eGroups.com>

Hi:

By my count, there are 18 remaining FAQs to be "taken."  There could 
end up being more if people come up with more categories, but that's 
where it stands now.  So, if we divide amongst the 5 person Committee 
(me, Melanie, Neil, Heidi & Simon), we need to take 3.6 more each.  
<g>  I've divided the remaining ones into EASY, MODERATE & LOTS OF 
WORK.  

EASY

Audio Versions 
Character Names (meanings, pronouciation, etc.)
Fan Clubs
Spells & Charms 
Wands

MODERATE:

Book Banning/Controversies
Clothing (Wizarding World)
Dursleys
HP Humor
McGonagall
Religion & HP

LOTS OF WORK REQUIRED:

Hagrid
Inconsistencies & Mysteries: GoF
Harry Potter
JK Rowling
Wizarding World: Economy
Wizarding World: General
Wizarding World: Government

There are 5 "easy" ones so why don't we each grab one of those?  I'll 
take any of them -- whatever is left is fine with me. 

Of the moderate ones, I'd be most interested in book 
banning/controversies (I'd also take Religion & HP though if someone 
else really wants book banning).  

Of the difficult ones, I'm happy to take on JKR or HP.  I've already 
taken the PoA Inconsistencies & Mysteries -- happy to do GoF as well, 
but someone else may want that.  

I haven't analyzed how many of the ones I've already taken would be 
classified as "easy," "moderate" or "difficult."  Maybe I'll do that 
now.  

So -- anyone want to chime in??  Again, if anyone who's not
officially 
part of the "Committee" wants to take one or more of these FAQs
and/or 
join the Committee, we'd love to have your help!    

Penny




From linsenma at hic.net  Wed Aug 16 13:46:32 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny Linsenmayer)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:46:32 -0000
Subject: Analysis of "Taken" FAQs
Message-ID: <8ne5vo+fu2f@eGroups.com>

Hi:

When I looked at what *I* had taken, I became concerned that I was 
shirking responsibility so I analyzed what everyone else had done.  
Turns out we're all pretty much even.  By my subjective
categorization 
of FAQs into "easy," "moderate," & "difficult," we each have our fair 
share of "difficult ones."  We also have about 6 each in total (Neil 
has 7, but then, what else do we expect from the UberPoster!).  

So, my earlier post about each of us taking one "easy," one
"moderate" 
& one "difficult" one still holds true.  That'll leave us with 2
extra 
"difficult" ones & one of the "moderate" ones but we can worry about 
that later.  So, everyone choose 3 more!  

Penny




From heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu  Wed Aug 16 14:08:29 2000
From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu (heidi)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:08:29 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Remaining FAQs
References: <8ne59r+lsn7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <399AA05D.372BE4D8@the-beach.net>

I'll take one from each:

> Character Names (meanings, pronouciation, etc.)
> Book Banning/Controversies, if Penny doesn't mind

> and Wizarding World: General




From linsenma at hic.net  Wed Aug 16 15:46:18 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:46:18 -0500
Subject: Message Archives
References: <20000814024446.24711.qmail@web2105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <399AB74A.4447E86F@hic.net>

Hi:

Paul Kippes wrote:

> I've replaced the .zip files with .exe files which, when run, will
> create a message files.  All you need to do is click a file's link and
> when the "File Download" dialog box appears, select "Run this program
> from its current location."  The computer will receive the executable
> and run it.  When this finishes, you'll be prompted for a directory to
> store the message file.  Remember your selection.  I typically choose
> "Desktop" (by Browsing) which is always at the top of the list.

Um . . . I'm sorry to be so technically challenged.  When I click on the
link, my browser prompts me to save it to my hard drive.  I did this
(took 2-3 minutes for the 5000 message file to save).  Then, I opened it
in Word, and it was garbage.  Then, I went to Windows Explorer to delete
it & try something else, and discovered that it's a "program."  Can you
tell what I'm doing wrong and help me out?  I don't get a "File
Download" dialog box when I click on the link.

Help!!!

Thanks --

Penny




From linsenma at hic.net  Wed Aug 16 15:52:35 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:52:35 -0500
Subject: Techie Questions
References: <20000815075548.UBBY6839.femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx82773-a.elcjn1.sdca.home.com>
Message-ID: <399AB8C3.F8864623@hic.net>

Hi:

Melanie Moore wrote:

> I could convert to HTML from any word processing program.  I just need
> to insert HTML tags around the text to format it for the web.  I have
> access to both WordPerfect (up to 9.0, but I'm more comfortable with
> 7.0) and Word 97.  Why don't you give us your "go by" document in one
> of those two, formatted as you visualize it.  The rest of the
> documents can be given to me in either program, or in plain text, and
> I can set them up to look like the "go by" one.  Does that make sense.

Sounds good.  I have Word 97 & Word Perfect 8.0.  I'll go with Word as
that's what most people probably have.

> I have a couple of possibilities.
>
> 1) Put in the "Links" section (which won't spotlight it, but will make
> it accessible).

This we should do anyway.  I've been wondering if there's a way to make
our "Links" section more organized & user-friendly.  I haven't gone in &
tried to mess with it, but it'd be great if we could put the most
important links at the top and categorize them all in some way.
Thoughts?

> 2) For the "Founder's Home Page" link, replace the current FAQ with
> Paul's archives.
>
> 3) I can spotlight and link to it on the current FAQ page.

I prefer (3) as I'd like to keep our FAQs with Netiquette & so forth.
Maybe put a question & answer about the archives at the beginning
somewhere.  Does that work?

> BTW, I can see you were an English major, Penny.  You haven't fallen
> into the "Hopefully" trap, that has caught so many--even many English
> majors I know.  Even me! <g>

I was indeed an English major.  Are you majoring in English right now?

Thanks as always Melanie!!!

Penny
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From linsenma at hic.net  Wed Aug 16 16:01:29 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:01:29 -0500
Subject: Unanswerable FAQ
References: <8nctk9+3b2s@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <399ABAD9.3216F696@hic.net>

Hi:

Paul Kippes wrote:

> Is it alright to skip adding items to the FAQ when the answer is not
> know.  Go to Message 2622 and all derivations there of for several
> questions.  For example, one would is "Why doesn't Lupin transform
> into a werewolf at the sight of the Boggart appearing as a full moon?"
>
> There are many good reasons why this is.  However, the answer is
> still unknown.

I think this sort of thing will fall under the "Inconsistencies &
Mysteries: PoA" (or which ever book seems most appropriate).  PoA would be
most appropriate for the Lupin question since that's the only place he's
appeared so far.

I know you answered this yourself later but thought I'd reiterate for
others that think we do want to include the "unexplainable" under those
"Inconsistencies & Mysteries" categories.  Hope it isn't too much trouble
for you to back-track Paul.

Need to get going on my own messages to cull through --

Penny





From linsenma at hic.net  Wed Aug 16 16:28:03 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:28:03 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Remaining FAQs
References: <8ne59r+lsn7@eGroups.com> <399AA05D.372BE4D8@the-beach.net>
Message-ID: <399AC113.D1D20585@hic.net>

Hi:

heidi wrote:

> I'll take one from each:
>
> > Character Names (meanings, pronouciation, etc.)
> > Book Banning/Controversies, if Penny doesn't mind
>
> > and Wizarding World: General

I've signed Heidi up for these.  I took "Religion & HP" in lieu of "Book
Banning."  I also signed myself up for JKR & Wizarding World:
Government.  I'm certainly willing to give up JKR though if someone else
really wants that one.  I already have Hermione, and Neil is doing Ron.
So, I thought maybe someone else might want to tackle Harry.  I note
noone has signed up to do the character summary for him either -- maybe
he's an intimidating character sketch?  I'll take him if noone else
wants it, but if I do, I'm giving JKR back out.

Penny

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From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Wed Aug 16 20:03:59 2000
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon Branford)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 21:03:59 +0100
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Remaining FAQs
In-Reply-To: <8ne59r+lsn7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINGEMDCGAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

I'll take the following. If anyone is unhappy at me taking these let me know
and we can always exchange.

Harry Potter (I'll be brave!)
Dursley's
Wands

Also if an extra one needs doing then I am happy to take Hagrid or
Inconsistencies and Mysteries of GoF as well.

Simon






From kippesp at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 16 20:42:10 2000
From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:42:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Message Archives
Message-ID: <20000816204210.11540.qmail@web2101.mail.yahoo.com>

Penny,

It sounds like you got the file okay.  So I'll start
there.

The file that your computer prompted you to save to
the hard drive is a runnable application.  To get the
messages it must be executed (though not killed).
You'll need to do the following for each file:

1. Locate the downloaded file (which may be on your
desktop) and double click its icon.  This should cause
a dialog box titled "WinZip Self-Extractor" to appear.
 It will be asking you to choose a folder.

2. Click the "Browse" button and select the desktop
for the file's final destination.  Select "OK" to
close the Browse window.

3. Click the UnZip button.  Shortly, a message box
should appear that says "1 file unzipped
successfully."

4. At this point, a new file has been created at the
destination you selected in (2).  This new file is a
regular .txt file that can be opened in Notepad, Word,
etc.

I'll try to make time tonight to include instructions
(with pictures) on the Archive site.

Trust me.  All this complication in the beginning will
be worth it.  Its far more frustrating to have a
corrupted file and not realize it.

Paul

--- Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer <linsenma at hic.net>
wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> Paul Kippes wrote:
> 
> > I've replaced the .zip files with .exe files
> which, when run, will
> > create a message files.  All you need to do is
> click a file's link and
> > when the "File Download" dialog box appears,
> select "Run this program
> > from its current location."  The computer will
> receive the executable
> > and run it.  When this finishes, you'll be
> prompted for a directory to
> > store the message file.  Remember your selection. 
> I typically choose
> > "Desktop" (by Browsing) which is always at the top
> of the list.
> 
> Um . . . I'm sorry to be so technically challenged. 
> When I click on the
> link, my browser prompts me to save it to my hard
> drive.  I did this
> (took 2-3 minutes for the 5000 message file to
> save).  Then, I opened it
> in Word, and it was garbage.  Then, I went to
> Windows Explorer to delete
> it & try something else, and discovered that it's a
> "program."  Can you
> tell what I'm doing wrong and help me out?  I don't
> get a "File
> Download" dialog box when I click on the link.
> 
> Help!!!
> 
> Thanks --
> 
> Penny


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From joy0823 at earthlink.net  Wed Aug 16 21:45:39 2000
From: joy0823 at earthlink.net (- Joy -)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:45:39 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Techie Questions
References: <20000815075548.UBBY6839.femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx82773-a.elcjn1.sdca.home.com> <399AB8C3.F8864623@hic.net>
Message-ID: <00cd01c007cb$522229a0$0100000a@joywelan>

Penny,

Someone suggested putting all the links on a web site, and then putting the
link to that one site in the Links section.  That makes a lot of sense to
me.  It would make it much easier to sort and update links.  I'd be happy to
design/maintain the site, if the group as a whole decides that that's what
they want to do.

~Joy~

----- Original Message -----
From: "Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer" <linsenma at hic.net>
To: <HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 11:52 AM
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Techie Questions


> This we should do anyway.  I've been wondering if there's a way to make
> our "Links" section more organized & user-friendly.  I haven't gone in &
> tried to mess with it, but it'd be great if we could put the most
> important links at the top and categorize them all in some way.
> Thoughts?





From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Wed Aug 16 21:49:23 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 21:49:23 -0000
Subject: Remaining FAQs
In-Reply-To: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINGEMDCGAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <8nf293+rj50@eGroups.com>

Okay, if there are no objections, I've taken the following, according 
to Penny's plan:

- Spells & Charms
- McGonagall
- Wizarding World: Economy

Neil

PS - I offered Quidditch to Ebony when she expressed an interest, but 
she decided against doing it (but said she wouldn't mind helping me 
with it).








From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Wed Aug 16 22:00:41 2000
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon Branford)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 23:00:41 +0100
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] FAQs
In-Reply-To: <20000815075548.UBBY6839.femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx82773-a.elcjn1.sdca.home.com>
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINKEMECGAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

"I could convert to HTML from any word processing program.  I just need to
insert HTML tags around the text to format it for the web."

I know a small amount of HTML. Would it be helpful if I send my FAQ's to you
already formatted? Or do you wish to format them altogether to get them the
in the same format/style?

Simon





From linsenma at hic.net  Wed Aug 16 22:33:15 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny Linsenmayer)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 22:33:15 -0000
Subject: FAQs
Message-ID: <8nf4rb+mrpb@eGroups.com>

Thanks Neil, Simon & Heidi for taking some of the others.  

Since Simon took HP himself off our hands, I signed up for another 
"large" FAQ -- Inconsistencies & Mysteries: GoF (I'll get to wade 
through the endless "Gleam in Dumbledore's Eye" posts).  If you'd 
rather take any of the ones I signed up for (than the ones that are 
left) Melanie, just let me know.

Penny




From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Wed Aug 16 23:48:33 2000
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 23:48:33 -0000
Subject: FAQs
In-Reply-To: <8nf4rb+mrpb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8nf98h+slhm@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "Penny Linsenmayer" <linsenma at h...> 
wrote:
> Since Simon took HP himself off our hands, I signed up for another 
> "large" FAQ -- Inconsistencies & Mysteries: GoF (I'll get to wade 
> through the endless "Gleam in Dumbledore's Eye" posts).  

Lucky you, it seems to be your favourite subject!

Audio versions, Clothing, Fan clubs, Hagrid and HP Humour are the 
FAQ's left.

If no one comes forward to do it, then I will be happy to do either 
of Chapter 35 + Ron or Chapter 37 + Harry for the HP4GU discussions. 
Another possibility is that it may need to be split between more than 
one person.

Simon




From lrcjestes at msn.com  Thu Aug 17 00:09:52 2000
From: lrcjestes at msn.com (lrcjestes)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 20:09:52 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: FAQs
References: <8nf98h+slhm@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <003d01c007df$7a633f80$cd8fd6ce@oemcomputer>


>
> Audio versions, Clothing, Fan clubs, Hagrid and HP Humour are the
> FAQ's left.
>

Hey there..I'll step up and do HP Humor as its my husband Randy that
generates a fair amount of silliness on this board...I'll also do Hagrid as
that is Randy's favorite character as well...

So...I have Sirius, Hagrid and HP Humor...now if I could just plow through
my messages...I'd be all set..

carole






From melaniem68 at home.com  Thu Aug 17 04:47:36 2000
From: melaniem68 at home.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 04:47:36 -0000
Subject: One subject left!
Message-ID: <8nfqp8+h50f@eGroups.com>

I've just put myself in for four more categories:

Humor
Clothing
Hagrid
Fan Clubs

This leaves only one, the Audio versions.  Is there anyone who would 
like that one (preferably someone who has heard at least a sampling
of 
both Dale and Fry)?  If not, I'll take it.

Thanks again.

Melanie




From melaniem68 at home.com  Thu Aug 17 04:57:21 2000
From: melaniem68 at home.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 04:57:21 -0000
Subject: FAQs
In-Reply-To: <003d01c007df$7a633f80$cd8fd6ce@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <8nfrbh+lhqg@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "lrcjestes" <lrcjestes at m...> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Audio versions, Clothing, Fan clubs, Hagrid and HP Humour are the
> > FAQ's left.
> >
> 
> Hey there..I'll step up and do HP Humor as its my husband Randy that
> generates a fair amount of silliness on this board...I'll also do 
Hagrid as
> that is Randy's favorite character as well...
> 
> So...I have Sirius, Hagrid and HP Humor...now if I could just plow 
through
> my messages...I'd be all set..
> 
> carole


Oops, I hadn't yet seen your message when I put in my own dibs.  I'll 
put your name with Hagrid and Humor then.  Thank you, Carole.

Melanie






From melaniem68 at home.com  Thu Aug 17 05:08:23 2000
From: melaniem68 at home.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 05:08:23 -0000
Subject: FAQs
In-Reply-To: <003d01c007df$7a633f80$cd8fd6ce@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <8nfs07+s58m@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "lrcjestes" <lrcjestes at m...> wrote:

> Hey there..I'll step up and do HP Humor as its my husband
> Randy that generates a fair amount of silliness on this
> board...I'll also do Hagrid as that is Randy's favorite
> character as well...

When I sent the last message (also dibbing on Hagrid and humor), I 
hadn't yet seen yours, Carole.  But, since you were first, I've just 
put your name down for both.  Thanks, Carole (and Randy, if he's 
assisting you in the background).

That will leave me with only seven (eight if I take Audio Versions), 
and without any from Penny's "lots of work" list.  If you feel 
overwhelmed, Penny, I'll be happy to take Inconsistancies and 
Mysteries: GOF off your hands.  If it's one you're looking forward to 
doing, however, I won't take it from you.  Let me know.

Melanie




From linsenma at hic.net  Thu Aug 17 14:42:52 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 09:42:52 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Message Archives
References: <20000816204210.11540.qmail@web2101.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <399BF9CC.D72B9275@hic.net>

Paul --

You're awesome!!  Thanks -- it worked finally.  Thanks for being so
patient.  I do think instructions at the message archives site would be
a good thing -- for those of us who are technical dunces.

Penny

Paul Kippes wrote:

> Penny,
>
> It sounds like you got the file okay.  So I'll start
> there.
>
> The file that your computer prompted you to save to
> the hard drive is a runnable application.  To get the
> messages it must be executed (though not killed).
> You'll need to do the following for each file:
>
> 1. Locate the downloaded file (which may be on your
> desktop) and double click its icon.  This should cause
> a dialog box titled "WinZip Self-Extractor" to appear.
> It will be asking you to choose a folder.
>
> 2. Click the "Browse" button and select the desktop
> for the file's final destination.  Select "OK" to
> close the Browse window.
>
> 3. Click the UnZip button.  Shortly, a message box
> should appear that says "1 file unzipped
> successfully."
>
> 4. At this point, a new file has been created at the
> destination you selected in (2).  This new file is a
> regular .txt file that can be opened in Notepad, Word,
> etc.
>
> I'll try to make time tonight to include instructions
> (with pictures) on the Archive site.
>
> Trust me.  All this complication in the beginning will
> be worth it.  Its far more frustrating to have a
> corrupted file and not realize it.
>
> Paul
>
> --- Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer <linsenma at hic.net>
> wrote:
> > Hi:
> >
> > Paul Kippes wrote:
> >
> > > I've replaced the .zip files with .exe files
> > which, when run, will
> > > create a message files.  All you need to do is
> > click a file's link and
> > > when the "File Download" dialog box appears,
> > select "Run this program
> > > from its current location."  The computer will
> > receive the executable
> > > and run it.  When this finishes, you'll be
> > prompted for a directory to
> > > store the message file.  Remember your selection.
> > I typically choose
> > > "Desktop" (by Browsing) which is always at the top
> > of the list.
> >
> > Um . . . I'm sorry to be so technically challenged.
> > When I click on the
> > link, my browser prompts me to save it to my hard
> > drive.  I did this
> > (took 2-3 minutes for the 5000 message file to
> > save).  Then, I opened it
> > in Word, and it was garbage.  Then, I went to
> > Windows Explorer to delete
> > it & try something else, and discovered that it's a
> > "program."  Can you
> > tell what I'm doing wrong and help me out?  I don't
> > get a "File
> > Download" dialog box when I click on the link.
> >
> > Help!!!
> >
> > Thanks --
> >
> > Penny
>
>
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From gypsycaine at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 17 15:01:04 2000
From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:01:04 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: FAQs
References: <8nfrbh+lhqg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00e301c0085b$f787eb60$84dc5d18@neo.rr.com>

I have to get off my butt, since my house is now in order finally (for the first time since I started school two years ago) enough to concentrate online!  I am through at least the first dozen?  Blinks....sighs.

I feel soooo behind!
Dee
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Melanie Moore 
  To: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 12:57 AM
  Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: FAQs


  --- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "lrcjestes" <lrcjestes at m...> wrote:
  > 
  > >
  > > Audio versions, Clothing, Fan clubs, Hagrid and HP Humour are the
  > > FAQ's left.
  > >
  > 
  > Hey there..I'll step up and do HP Humor as its my husband Randy that
  > generates a fair amount of silliness on this board...I'll also do 
  Hagrid as
  > that is Randy's favorite character as well...
  > 
  > So...I have Sirius, Hagrid and HP Humor...now if I could just plow 
  through
  > my messages...I'd be all set..
  > 
  > carole


  Oops, I hadn't yet seen your message when I put in my own dibs.  I'll 
  put your name with Hagrid and Humor then.  Thank you, Carole.

  Melanie




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From kippesp at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 18 05:53:02 2000
From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 05:53:02 -0000
Subject: FAQ suggestion
Message-ID: <8niivu+8rtm@eGroups.com>

We don't have a topic for Abbreviations yet I noticed.  Things to 
include would be:

PoU - Paradigm of Uncertainity

And, of course, the obvious SS, PS, GoF, etc.






From kippesp at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 18 06:26:32 2000
From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 06:26:32 -0000
Subject: Love triangle
Message-ID: <8nikuo+eo9v@eGroups.com>

I'm having trouble fitting all the crushes into the FORT database 
even though the topics are pretty much there.  I'm probably going add 
another line item (probably crushes) and put what I have there.





From HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com  Fri Aug 18 07:02:04 2000
From: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com (HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com)
Date: 18 Aug 2000 07:02:04 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Due date for finishing your messages 
Message-ID: <966582124.6067@egroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Due date for finishing your messages 

Date: Friday, August 25, 2000 
Time: All Day

 

 






From kippesp at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 18 07:03:54 2000
From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 07:03:54 -0000
Subject: I'm done
Message-ID: <8nin4q+nq9a@eGroups.com>

Just wanted to let everyone know I've finished going through my 
messages.  I'll finish adding to the database this weekend.  It was 
being slow tonight, so I'll let it rest a bit.

Paul





From kippesp at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 18 07:25:47 2000
From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 07:25:47 -0000
Subject: I'm done
In-Reply-To: <8nin4q+nq9a@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8niodr+d9pp@eGroups.com>

Done with database as well.

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "Paul Kippes" <kippesp at y...> wrote:
> Just wanted to let everyone know I've finished going through my 
> messages.  I'll finish adding to the database this weekend.  It was 
> being slow tonight, so I'll let it rest a bit.
> 
> Paul




From melaniem68 at home.com  Fri Aug 18 19:33:05 2000
From: melaniem68 at home.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 19:33:05 -0000
Subject: FAQs
In-Reply-To: <8nf4rb+mrpb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8nk31h+qi8d@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "Penny Linsenmayer" <linsenma at h...> 
wrote:
> Thanks Neil, Simon & Heidi for taking some of the others.  
> 
> Since Simon took HP himself off our hands, I signed up for another 
> "large" FAQ -- Inconsistencies & Mysteries: GoF (I'll get to wade 
> through the endless "Gleam in Dumbledore's Eye" posts).  If you'd 
> rather take any of the ones I signed up for (than the ones that are 
> left) Melanie, just let me know.
> 
> Penny


I've taken the last of 'em (Audio Versions), which gives me 8 FAQ 
sections.  I just hope I'm not shirking my duties, since I think the 
other committee members have at least 10 each.

Now to plug my findings into the FORT database!

Melanie




From heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu  Fri Aug 18 20:31:10 2000
From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu (Tandy, Heidi)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:31:10 -0400
Subject: faq - question & pondering
Message-ID: <1AB004C24D4CD311A19D0008C75F90EF0107A796@FTLEXC1>

I am planning to start working on my FAQs over the weekend, assuming my son
Harry takes a nap - has done enough of a FAQ to be able to send it to the
list (or even just me) as a sample of How It Can Look (no html code needed)?

Also, Penny - do you need anyone to go thru another batch of 300 emails?


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From melaniem68 at home.com  Fri Aug 18 20:56:52 2000
From: melaniem68 at home.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 20:56:52 -0000
Subject: faq - question & pondering
In-Reply-To: <1AB004C24D4CD311A19D0008C75F90EF0107A796@FTLEXC1>
Message-ID: <8nk7uk+8rs2@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "Tandy, Heidi" <heidi.h.tandy.c92 at a...> 
wrote:

> Also, Penny - do you need anyone to go thru another batch
> of 300 emails?


Since Sheryll opted out (or didn't join this list, anyway), why don't 
you take messages 6650-7000, which were previously assigned to her?

Thank you.

Melanie




From linsenma at hic.net  Fri Aug 18 21:16:24 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:16:24 -0500
Subject: More Messages for Heidi to Sort Through
References: <8nk7uk+8rs2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <399DA7A8.733EA30D@hic.net>

Hi:

Melanie Moore wrote:

> --- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "Tandy, Heidi" <heidi.h.tandy.c92 at a...>
> wrote:
>
> > Also, Penny - do you need anyone to go thru another batch
> > of 300 emails?
>
> Since Sheryll opted out (or didn't join this list, anyway), why don't
> you take messages 6650-7000, which were previously assigned to her?
>

No!  Wait!  <waves hands desperately>

I've already done through 6805 just now (literally).  I will finish
through 7000, but why don't you take 7001 - 7350 or so (we're not there
yet, are we?).  At some point, we have to have a cut-off I suppose &
just write the FAQs and then update them.

Thanks for the offer Heidi!!

Penny
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From melaniem68 at home.com  Fri Aug 18 21:23:18 2000
From: melaniem68 at home.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 21:23:18 -0000
Subject: More Messages for Heidi to Sort Through
In-Reply-To: <399DA7A8.733EA30D@hic.net>
Message-ID: <8nk9g6+g2l4@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer 
<linsenma at h...> wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> Melanie Moore wrote:
> 
> > --- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "Tandy, Heidi" 
<heidi.h.tandy.c92 at a...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Also, Penny - do you need anyone to go thru another batch
> > > of 300 emails?
> >
> > Since Sheryll opted out (or didn't join this list, anyway), why 
don't
> > you take messages 6650-7000, which were previously assigned to 
her?
> >
> 
> No!  Wait!  <waves hands desperately>
> 
> I've already done through 6805 just now (literally).  I will finish
> through 7000, but why don't you take 7001 - 7350 or so (we're not
> there
> yet, are we?).  At some point, we have to have a cut-off I suppose &
> just write the FAQs and then update them.
> 
> Thanks for the offer Heidi!!
> 
> Penny


I have that all update on the database.  Thanks again, Heidi and 
Penny.


My guess is that we'll need a volunteer for 1, maybe 2 more sets of 
posts before the due date.  Any takers?

Melanie




From HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com  Fri Aug 18 23:50:04 2000
From: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com (HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com)
Date: 18 Aug 2000 23:50:04 -0000
Subject: New file uploaded to HP4GU-FAQ 
Message-ID: <966642604.6404@egroups.com>


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From linsenma at hic.net  Sat Aug 19 00:02:51 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny Linsenmayer)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 00:02:51 -0000
Subject: My Post Summary
Message-ID: <8nkirb+jrb2@eGroups.com>

Hi:

I just posted a file to the Files section with my messages 
(6300-7000).  I should know this, but . . . . do I now need to go
into 
Paul's FORT database file & rekey my message #s in there too?  Or,
are 
we each just going to go into the various Files that people post & 
collate the topics relating to the FAQs that we're doing?  Does this 
make sense?

I'm probably somewhat incoherent.  We've had a nightmare day -- one
of 
our dogs had to be rushed into emergency back surgery.  He's come out 
of the surgery now.  Everything points to a full & healthy recovery, 
although the full prognosis won't be known until in the morning.  
Anyway, I chose the task of going through all those messages to
occupy 
my afternoon while he was in surgery -- the FAQs will require mental 
concentration, but I found that assigning each post into a topic 
grouping didn't require full mental stamina.  I do think we're going 
to end up needing a few more FAQs than we first thought.  Do we have 
one on the Malfoys?  The wizarding education system (apart from 
Hogwarts (tuition, student population & location) probably deserves a 
FAQ.  

Also, I was pretty darn unsure where to classify the whole "why was 
Voldy after Harry in the first place" topic (as well as "Is Harry the 
last heir of Gryffindor" & "What really happened on Halloween
1981?"). 
I ended up putting those posts into several categories, none of which 
may be the "right" one.  We may need to do a FAQ just on this 
particular topic.  I think I threw most of those into "Harry Potter," 
"Voldemort," "Inconsistencies & Mysteries: Sorcerer's Stone."  

Most of them were rather straightforward though.  

Thanks to whoever set it up to send us all a reminder about the 8/25 
deadline that we set.  That's pretty handy.  

Like Heidi, I'm going to start trying to create the basics with one
or 
more of my FAQs.  Although they can't be completed until all the
posts 
have been summarized -- maybe getting a general idea of where some of 
them are going will be useful.  

Have a great weekend all --

Penny




From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Sat Aug 19 10:17:40 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 10:17:40 -0000
Subject: FAQs when, what, how etc...
In-Reply-To: <8nkirb+jrb2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8nlms4+6tn6@eGroups.com>

Penny said:  Like Heidi, I'm going to start trying to create the 
basics with one or more of my FAQs.  Although they can't be completed 
until all the posts have been summarized -- maybe getting a general 
idea of where some of them are going will be useful.  

*****

I was about to panic when Heidi said she was starting the FAQs, 
because I haven't even finished going through my assigned list yet 
(bad boy), and I see that a few others haven't.  

I've been doing a fair amount of cross-referencing, so the same posts 
appear in different places.  I will try to shoehorn my topic 
categories into Paul's FORT database (it was my understanding that 
were were transferring the #s into that database as well as posting 
our own files).

It's a good idea to sketch out the FAQs now.  I'm assuming that some 
will be Q+A style (even if the 'A' is a mass of speculation in some 
cases) and some will just be comments, links, anecdotes, opinions 
(which might have to be included verbatim) or lists.  With each 
character, we could include a summary (if available) from our ongoing 
discussions or write a brief sketch to head up the FAQ.

Penny, I hope your dog makes a speedy recovery.

Neil





From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Sat Aug 19 13:39:40 2000
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon Branford)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 14:39:40 +0100
Subject: Messages
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINGEOOCGAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

"Do we have one on the Malfoys?  The wizarding education system (apart from
Hogwarts (tuition, student population & location) probably deserves a FAQ."

I guess if the messages are put into the FORT database then we will find a
few topics in need of an FAQ that we have not already considered. I noticed
that we did not have one on Riddle's parents but plan to add this into the
one I do on Riddle.

Due to this I think it would be best if the message were entered into the
database. I have looked at the 1751-2100-message file and it is similar to
the one I made when going through my messages. If people have similar files
for their messages then it may be best if these were added to the files
section for reference purposes. For FAQ's such as Magical Creatures they may
list each creature separately, which will help the FAQ people.

I have not made a start on an FAQ, and do not have a chance to do so for a
week at least. I probably will not be around much next week.

Simon




From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Sat Aug 19 13:50:50 2000
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 13:50:50 -0000
Subject: Files
Message-ID: <8nm3bq+6k88@eGroups.com>

I have uploaded my topic summary, for message 4200-4550. It is 
similar to the one by Joy (with sime numbers after her name).

It should be of help to those of us doing the FAQ's.

Simon




From heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu  Sat Aug 19 15:23:23 2000
From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu (heidi)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 11:23:23 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: More Messages for Heidi to Sort Through
References: <8nk7uk+8rs2@eGroups.com> <399DA7A8.733EA30D@hic.net>
Message-ID: <399EA66B.597FD22E@the-beach.net>

okay, that, then.

Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer wrote:

> Hi:
>
> Melanie Moore wrote:
>
>> --- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "Tandy, Heidi"
>> <heidi.h.tandy.c92 at a...>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Also, Penny - do you need anyone to go thru another batch
>> > of 300 emails?
>>
>> Since Sheryll opted out (or didn't join this list, anyway), why
>> don't
>> you take messages 6650-7000, which were previously assigned to her?
>>
>
> No!  Wait!  <waves hands desperately>
>
> I've already done through 6805 just now (literally).  I will finish
> through 7000, but why don't you take 7001 - 7350 or so (we're not
> there yet, are we?).  At some point, we have to have a cut-off I
> suppose & just write the FAQs and then update them.
>
> Thanks for the offer Heidi!!
>
> Penny
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From HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com  Sat Aug 19 16:58:17 2000
From: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com (HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com)
Date: 19 Aug 2000 16:58:17 -0000
Subject: New file uploaded to HP4GU-FAQ 
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  File        : /msgs3501_3850.doc 
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From ebonyink at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 19 17:05:37 2000
From: ebonyink at hotmail.com (Ebony Elizabeth Thomas)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 17:05:37 -0000
Subject: Release weekend message table up...
Message-ID: <8nmep1+6mg2@eGroups.com>

Hi, you guys...

The rough draft table for messages #3501-3850 is in the Files 
section.  I may double check it again against the archives, depending 
on time this week.  I have a feeling that I'll be disappearing during 
the last week of this month (all right, don't cheet *too* loudly!) 
b/c I'm moving on the 1st.  Once school starts (teaching and grad 
classes), I won't be able to do nearly as much.

I'm so glad I was assigned the GoF release weekend to comb through.  
It was so funny to see some of the same oh-so-cool veteran posters 
who I look up to in HP-dom bouncing off the Club walls in 
anticipation and excitement.

Looking forward to directions for my two FAQ assignments,

Ebony (who has the scary and paranoid suspicion that she did the 
WRONG batch of messages)




From linsenma at hic.net  Sat Aug 19 17:33:39 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 12:33:39 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Release weekend message table up...
References: <8nmep1+6mg2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <399EC4F3.B2CB8270@hic.net>

Hi:

Ebony Elizabeth Thomas wrote:

> Ebony (who has the scary and paranoid suspicion that she did the
> WRONG batch of messages)

Nope.  No need for paranoia -- I just checked & you did the correct
batch.  <g>

Here's who I show as having completed their group of messages:
        Joy (Joy0823, not to be confused with Joywitch)
        Anna (the first batch)
        Heidi (the first batch)
        Ebony
        Simon
        Me (Penny)

Please let us know if you're not going to be able to do your assigned
grouping after all -- we can reassign your group if need be.  I know
lots of you are at work on your messages, so I expect we'll get more
file uploads this week.  Right?  Right.  <g>

> Looking forward to directions for my two FAQ assignments,
>
I'm going to start thinking about how I want to approach each one of
mine -- do some basic layout work.  But, I'm going to wait & do most of
the looking through messages once all the messages have been reviewed &
categorized.  I can probably do the Fanfiction FAQ without looking
through many messages on the other hand.  I might also use Joywitch's
excellent 3 part message from sometime last month about all the
Inconsistencies & Mysteries we'd identified before.  I think that was
pre-GoF now I think about it, but it would help me with setting up:
Inconsistencies & Mysteries: PoA in any case.

Some of the FAQs can be done in a "Question & Answer" format.  Others
will be just information (like the Character Names (meaning) FAQ for
example).  I'm envisioning some links in the FanFiction FAQ -- links to
the Paradigm homepage & to fanfiction.net for example.

The Potential Romance Pairings -- I'm envisioning each Pairing, followed
by arguments for & against.

The Casting FAQ -- will leave it to Neil -- but it seems it might be
worthwhile to list each character & the fantasy casting picks of our
members underneath each character's name.  You could have a lead-in
about the director choice, filming locale & various other bits about the
movie rights.

Neil said: <<<It's a good idea to sketch out the FAQs now.  I'm assuming
that some will be Q+A style (even if the 'A' is a mass of speculation in
some  cases) and some will just be comments, links, anecdotes, opinions
(which might have to be included verbatim) or lists.  With each
character, we could include a summary (if available) from our ongoing
discussions or write a brief sketch to head up the FAQ.>>>

I think that sounds exactly like what I'm thinking.

I plugged my messages into the FORT database just now & added 20 record
groups in the process.  It seems I thought about my groupings a bit more
general than other people did.  So, I apologize -- some of mine fit
neatly into the existing FORT categories.  In other cases, I was left
putting message numbers into 2 groupings -- like Animagi & Mythical
Creatures -- I had all that grouped together under "Magical Creatures."
So, apologies, to Heidi -- I have duplicates because I didn't record the
messages with Animagi separate from Mythical Creatures.  Like I said, I
also added 20 new categories.

Update: my dog is doing great.  The surgeon called to report that he's
up & trying to walk this morning. Comes home on Monday.  :--)

Penny
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From joy0823 at earthlink.net  Sat Aug 19 17:32:59 2000
From: joy0823 at earthlink.net (- Joy -)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 13:32:59 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Release weekend message table up...
References: <8nmep1+6mg2@eGroups.com> <399EC4F3.B2CB8270@hic.net>
Message-ID: <01a901c00a03$8548e320$0100000a@joywelan>

I'd be willing to do another group if needed.

~Joy~




From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Sat Aug 19 17:40:49 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 17:40:49 -0000
Subject: Release weekend message table up...
In-Reply-To: <399EC4F3.B2CB8270@hic.net>
Message-ID: <8nmgr1+aqk8@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer 
<linsenma at h...> wrote:

Neil said: <<>> 

and Penny replied: I think that sounds exactly like what I'm
thinking. 

******

So, we've both had our brains wiped, Penny! <g>


I agree on the Casting FAQ - a list of suggested names for each 
character and some stuff on the film, director etc.

I'm hoping to finish my scanning batch between visiting Diagon Alley 
and entering the chat room, tomorrow.

Neil






From HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com  Sat Aug 19 22:27:55 2000
From: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com (HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com)
Date: 19 Aug 2000 22:27:55 -0000
Subject: New file uploaded to HP4GU-FAQ 
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
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From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Sat Aug 19 22:47:54 2000
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon Branford)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 23:47:54 +0100
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Release weekend message table up...
In-Reply-To: <399EC4F3.B2CB8270@hic.net>
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINMEPECGAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

 I plugged my messages into the FORT database just now & added 20 record
groups in the process.  It seems I thought about my groupings a bit more
general than other people did.  So, I apologize -- some of mine fit neatly
into the existing FORT categories.


I have downloaded the files and will put them together into one long table
(MS word format file) and then post it back to the group. If anyone wants it
as a different file then let me know and I will post it in a different
format.

I am busy, and so unlikely to be able to find computer time, for the next
few days (until Thursday I believe) but will sort the rest of the table out
when all the message have been sorted and the files uploaded.

Simon
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From melaniem68 at home.com  Sun Aug 20 18:26:54 2000
From: melaniem68 at home.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 18:26:54 -0000
Subject: Warning about FORT database
Message-ID: <8np7te+409g@eGroups.com>

As I found out the hard way yesterday, each record (topic) only holds 
about 40 message numbers.  If, while entering your data into that 
table, you find a record which looks full, DON'T ENTER YOUR MESSAGE 
NUMBERS THERE.  Instead, create a new record along the lines 
of "(Topic name)--part II" and put your numbers into that one.

I made that mistake yesterday when I entered my "Casting" messages.  
I typed them in where they numerically belonged.  After saving the 
record, I found it had truncated not only some of my own message 
numbers, but also those that came after mine!

Don't worry, Penny.  I've made a new record called "Casting--Part II" 
and re-entered your message numbers there (good thing there was a 
backup).  Anna, if you've already put in any casting messages in the 
5951-6300 range, I'll hunt them down and re-enter them.

Thank you for your patience.  I just wanted to mention this before 
anyone else made the same mistake.

Melanie




From rawaherc at cs.com  Sun Aug 20 18:29:15 2000
From: rawaherc at cs.com (rawaherc at cs.com)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 14:29:15 EDT
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Warning about FORT database
Message-ID: <b8.a2c7abb.26d17d7b@cs.com>

No - I'm still getting around to the last set of messages - they are 
catalogued, but I've yet to upload and enter them - that will be tomorrow 
morning!
Anna



From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Mon Aug 21 02:13:23 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 02:13:23 -0000
Subject: I'm done scanning...
Message-ID: <8nq383+pjoe@eGroups.com>

I've finished going through my list of posts (finally), but my 
summary list is a bit of a mess, so I'll tidy it before uploading,
and 
then transfer #s to the FORT database.

Neil




From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Mon Aug 21 20:46:44 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 20:46:44 -0000
Subject: Yahoo...& legal sensitivity
Message-ID: <8ns4fk+l4bv@eGroups.com>

I imagine the problems over at Yahoo have something to do with the 
programmers tinkering with the facilities in some sort of preamble to 
the merger with e-groups.  There are just too many weird things 
happening for it to be anything else.  

Does anyone else feel that the Yahoo people are enthusiastic amateurs 
conducting brain surgery with knives and forks?

Having got that libellous statement off my chest, I wanted to bring
up the fact that our archives are slightly more exposed on a public, 
and searchable, web site.  As we have made some fairly choice 
assessments of N. K. Stouffer's character, for example, could we get 
into difficulties?  

Is there a lawyer in the house?  [I know there is <g>, I 
just wanted to say that].

Neil





From heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu  Mon Aug 21 20:51:46 2000
From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu (Tandy, Heidi)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 16:51:46 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Yahoo...& legal sensitivity
Message-ID: <1AB004C24D4CD311A19D0008C75F90EF0107A7A5@FTLEXC1>

Do you really want a dissertation on libel & slander laws? 
What about ISP immunity, at least in the US?
I can put some into my FAQ on the lawsuit - I was just going to dissect
trademark & copyright laws and show the holes in her case that way (and if
anyone knows a link to the site which has the Scholastic Answer to her suit,
or a copy of it, I would love to see it!)

On a completely unrelated note, Penny & I have been having a little off-list
talk about hosting of the FAQ & making it accessable in a non-YAHOO way.
ABout 2 weeks ago, for the Very Expensive Price of $17, I got a domain name
registration for thethreebroomsticks.com (it's a pub name, we're adults, we
can go there) - BUT I don't want to be solely responsible for finding a host
for the name/site or paying the costs of it. Does anyone know who could host
it?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Ward [mailto:neilward at dircon.co.uk]
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 4:47 PM
> To: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com
> Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Yahoo...& legal sensitivity
> 
> 
> I imagine the problems over at Yahoo have something to do with the 
> programmers tinkering with the facilities in some sort of preamble to 
> the merger with e-groups.  There are just too many weird things 
> happening for it to be anything else.  
> 
> Does anyone else feel that the Yahoo people are enthusiastic amateurs 
> conducting brain surgery with knives and forks?
> 
> Having got that libellous statement off my chest, I wanted to bring
> up the fact that our archives are slightly more exposed on a public, 
> and searchable, web site.  As we have made some fairly choice 
> assessments of N. K. Stouffer's character, for example, could we get 
> into difficulties?  
> 
> Is there a lawyer in the house?  [I know there is <g>, I 
> just wanted to say that].
> 
> Neil
> 
> 
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From linsenma at hic.net  Tue Aug 22 00:58:43 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 19:58:43 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Warning about FORT database
References: <8np7te+409g@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <39A1D043.D5E18B21@hic.net>

Hi:

Melanie Moore wrote:

> As I found out the hard way yesterday, each record (topic) only holds
> about 40 message numbers.  If, while entering your data into that
> table, you find a record which looks full, DON'T ENTER YOUR MESSAGE
> NUMBERS THERE.  Instead, create a new record along the lines
> of "(Topic name)--part II" and put your numbers into that one.

Thanks for the warning!  I had actually wondered that very thing.  Sorry
you ended up doing more work than necessary.

Penny
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From linsenma at hic.net  Tue Aug 22 01:06:44 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 20:06:44 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Yahoo...& legal sensitivity
References: <8ns4fk+l4bv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <39A1D224.921E69C7@hic.net>

Hi:

Neil Ward wrote:

> Is there a lawyer in the house?  [I know there is <g>, I
> just wanted to say that].

Guilty as charged.  BUT, I defer completely to the other lawyer in our
group -- Heidi is an actual intellectual property lawyer.  I just buy &
sell companies & handle financings in public offerings.  Nothing
terribly useful for us.

> I imagine the problems over at Yahoo have something to do with the
> programmers tinkering with the facilities in some sort of preamble to
> the merger with e-groups.  There are just too many weird things
> happening for it to be anything else.

Makes sense to me.  They didn't have any truly believable explanation
for what had happened.  I'm also not entirely confident that they will
call me back.  But, believe me, I will keep following up on the matter.

> Having got that libellous statement off my chest, I wanted to bring
> up the fact that our archives are slightly more exposed on a public,
> and searchable, web site.  As we have made some fairly choice
> assessments of N. K. Stouffer's character, for example, could we get
> into difficulties?

Again, I'll defer to Heidi.  But, I'm not sure zoom.com is any more
public or any more troublesome than Yahoo in that regard.  People can
lurk & read our messages without joining the Club (I *think*).  I hope
I'm not speaking out of turn on that point -- I'm fairly certain we have
open archives so that people can evaluate whether to join or not (but I
could be totally making that up).  But, I'm not sure there's any real
cause for concern on those grounds. Plus, I don't honestly think anyone
has said anything truly libelous -- nasty (yes), analytical about her
claims (yes) & judgmental (yes).  But, libel . . . .well, Heidi can
answer better than I.

Penny
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From HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com  Tue Aug 22 07:02:01 2000
From: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com (HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com)
Date: 22 Aug 2000 07:02:01 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Due date for finishing your messages 
Message-ID: <966927721.18971@egroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Due date for finishing your messages 

Date: Friday, August 25, 2000 
Time: All Day

 

 






From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Tue Aug 22 09:31:07 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 09:31:07 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Due date for finishing your messages
In-Reply-To: <966927721.18971@egroups.com>
Message-ID: <8nth8r+fp63@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com wrote:

I am part-way through updating my messages to the FORT database, so 
ignore any slight anomalies for the moment.  I was plodding through, 
but suddenly realised it was 5am, and that I should go to bed!  I 
should be finished today.

I've tried to use existing categories where possible, but I have 
created some new ones.  

Casting seems popular! I wonder who's doing that FAQ... oh, it's me.

Neil






From heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu  Tue Aug 22 14:27:39 2000
From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu (Tandy, Heidi)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 10:27:39 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Yahoo...& legal sensitivity
Message-ID: <1AB004C24D4CD311A19D0008C75F90EF0107A7AC@FTLEXC1>

Just as an aside, this is one moment when I would *love* to know exactly
what Nancy Stouffer's legal people said/.wrote to Jenna, who does that great
HP site, to see how close we'll be going to her "touchypoints" with what
we're doing. Does anyone know?

-----Original Message-----
From: Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer [mailto:linsenma at hic.net]


Again, I'll defer to Heidi.  But, I'm not sure zoom.com is any more public
or any more troublesome than Yahoo in that regard.  People can lurk & read
our messages without joining the Club (I *think*).  I hope I'm not speaking
out of turn on that point -- I'm fairly certain we have open archives so
that people can evaluate whether to join or not (but I could be totally
making that up).  But, I'm not sure there's any real cause for concern on
those grounds. Plus, I don't honestly think anyone has said anything truly
libelous -- nasty (yes), analytical about her claims (yes) & judgmental
(yes).  But, libel . . . .well, Heidi can answer better than I. 



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From gypsycaine at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 22 17:12:06 2000
From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 13:12:06 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Reminder - Due date for finishing your messages 
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Friday???? ACK!!!!  Tomorrow, my friend will be here, alllllll day, and Friday she will return, all day.  That leaves only tonite and Thursday arghhh!

(I hate deadlines.  LOL)    

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From kippesp at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 22 20:00:03 2000
From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 13:00:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Yahoo...& legal sensitivity
Message-ID: <20000822200003.3542.qmail@web2102.mail.yahoo.com>

Earlier, Penny wasn't sure about the accessability of
our Yahoo! club.  Anyone can read all the messages. 
(Incidentally, that made archiving the club MUCH
easier and faster since no cookies were involved.)

I'm so much concerned about US libel laws (British
perhaps) as I am about IP.  We--or rather
smitster--have, in effect, taken Yahoo! property and
placed it on another public site.


--- "Tandy, Heidi"
<heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu> wrote:
> Just as an aside, this is one moment when I would
> *love* to know exactly
> what Nancy Stouffer's legal people said/.wrote to
> Jenna, who does that great
> HP site, to see how close we'll be going to her
> "touchypoints" with what
> we're doing. Does anyone know?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer
> [mailto:linsenma at hic.net]
> 
> 
> Again, I'll defer to Heidi.  But, I'm not sure
> zoom.com is any more public
> or any more troublesome than Yahoo in that regard. 
> People can lurk & read
> our messages without joining the Club (I *think*). 
> I hope I'm not speaking
> out of turn on that point -- I'm fairly certain we
> have open archives so
> that people can evaluate whether to join or not (but
> I could be totally
> making that up).  But, I'm not sure there's any real
> cause for concern on
> those grounds. Plus, I don't honestly think anyone
> has said anything truly
> libelous -- nasty (yes), analytical about her claims
> (yes) & judgmental
> (yes).  But, libel . . . .well, Heidi can answer
> better than I. 
> 
> 
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From heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu  Tue Aug 22 20:08:21 2000
From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu (Tandy, Heidi)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 16:08:21 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Yahoo...& legal sensitivity
Message-ID: <1AB004C24D4CD311A19D0008C75F90EF0107A7C3@FTLEXC1>

It's not a libel issue, it's a copyright infringement issue. And Yahoo, at
least the US version of Yahoo, does NOT own the text of the posts - each
individual poster does. It says so right here:
<<With respect to all other Content you elect to post to other publicly
accessible areas of the Service, you grant Yahoo the royalty-free,
perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive and fully sublicensable right and
license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create
derivative works from, distribute, perform and display such Content (in
whole or part) worldwide and/or to incorporate it in other works in any
form, media, or technology now known or later developed. >> (this is from
their terms of service agreement at http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/)

Of course, this means that each individual poster's copyright is being
infringed by the files which bundle all the messages together. 

Penny - would you like to put something in the "Intro" to the club section
which says "If You Join You Grant The Founders the royalty-free, perpetual,
irrevocable, non-exclusive and fully sublicensable right and license to use,
reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from,
distribute, perform and display such Content (in whole or part) worldwide
and/or to incorporate it in other works in any form, media, or technology
now known or later developed." 
Then the founders have the right to bundle all the messages AND can
sublicense the right to bundle all messages.

And what do newsgroups and clubs without an in-house intellectual property
lawyer do?!?!?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Kippes [mailto:kippesp at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 4:00 PM
> To: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [HP4GU-FAQ] Yahoo...& legal sensitivity
> 
> 
> Earlier, Penny wasn't sure about the accessability of
> our Yahoo! club.  Anyone can read all the messages. 
> (Incidentally, that made archiving the club MUCH
> easier and faster since no cookies were involved.)
> 
> I'm so much concerned about US libel laws (British
> perhaps) as I am about IP.  We--or rather
> smitster--have, in effect, taken Yahoo! property and
> placed it on another public site.
> 
> 
> --- "Tandy, Heidi"
> <heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu> wrote:
> > Just as an aside, this is one moment when I would
> > *love* to know exactly
> > what Nancy Stouffer's legal people said/.wrote to
> > Jenna, who does that great
> > HP site, to see how close we'll be going to her
> > "touchypoints" with what
> > we're doing. Does anyone know?
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer
> > [mailto:linsenma at hic.net]
> > 
> > 
> > Again, I'll defer to Heidi.  But, I'm not sure
> > zoom.com is any more public
> > or any more troublesome than Yahoo in that regard. 
> > People can lurk & read
> > our messages without joining the Club (I *think*). 
> > I hope I'm not speaking
> > out of turn on that point -- I'm fairly certain we
> > have open archives so
> > that people can evaluate whether to join or not (but
> > I could be totally
> > making that up).  But, I'm not sure there's any real
> > cause for concern on
> > those grounds. Plus, I don't honestly think anyone
> > has said anything truly
> > libelous -- nasty (yes), analytical about her claims
> > (yes) & judgmental
> > (yes).  But, libel . . . .well, Heidi can answer
> > better than I. 
> > 
> > 
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From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Tue Aug 22 20:15:15 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 20:15:15 -0000
Subject: Yahoo...& legal sensitivity
In-Reply-To: <20000822200003.3542.qmail@web2102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8nun0j+sqdf@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, Paul Kippes <kippesp at y...> wrote:
> Earlier, Penny wasn't sure about the accessability of
> our Yahoo! club.  Anyone can read all the messages. 
> (Incidentally, that made archiving the club MUCH
> easier and faster since no cookies were involved.)

I know anyone can read the messages in the club (if they are 
masochists), but am I right in assuming that the larger search
engines would be more likely to pick up the text of our messages in a 
search, if they were, as they are, located on an independent web site?

At the moment, Stouffer would have to go into Yahoo clubs and HP4GU 
and read through all the posts.  But, if she typed her own name into
a search engine, she might get hits from our archive (I guess it
depends whether or not they are indexed - is that down to the site 
owner alone?)

I guess, on the IP issue, we could argue to Yahoo that we wouldn't 
have had to resort to stealing their 'property' if they offered a 
decent search facility themselves...hmmm, weak argument, I know.

Neil




From kippesp at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 22 21:15:14 2000
From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 14:15:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Yahoo...& legal sensitivity
Message-ID: <20000822211514.20213.qmail@web2101.mail.yahoo.com>

Thankfully, search engines do not go into the content
of compressed files (from what I've found)--too time
consuming.  So as far as the Xoom.com site hitting a
search engine--not likely.  (It's even less likely now
that the files are .exe files.)


--- Neil Ward <neilward at dircon.co.uk> wrote:
> --- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, Paul Kippes
> <kippesp at y...> wrote:
> > Earlier, Penny wasn't sure about the accessability
> of
> > our Yahoo! club.  Anyone can read all the
> messages. 
> > (Incidentally, that made archiving the club MUCH
> > easier and faster since no cookies were involved.)
> 
> I know anyone can read the messages in the club (if
> they are 
> masochists), but am I right in assuming that the
> larger search
> engines would be more likely to pick up the text of
> our messages in a 
> search, if they were, as they are, located on an
> independent web site?
> 
> At the moment, Stouffer would have to go into Yahoo
> clubs and HP4GU 
> and read through all the posts.  But, if she typed
> her own name into
> a search engine, she might get hits from our archive
> (I guess it
> depends whether or not they are indexed - is that
> down to the site 
> owner alone?)
> 
> I guess, on the IP issue, we could argue to Yahoo
> that we wouldn't 
> have had to resort to stealing their 'property' if
> they offered a 
> decent search facility themselves...hmmm, weak
> argument, I know.
> 
> Neil
> 
> 
>

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From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Tue Aug 22 21:56:41 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:56:41 -0000
Subject: Yahoo...& legal sensitivity
In-Reply-To: <20000822211514.20213.qmail@web2101.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8nusup+pf1j@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, Paul Kippes <kippesp at y...> wrote:
> Thankfully, search engines do not go into the content
> of compressed files (from what I've found)--too time
> consuming.  So as far as the Xoom.com site hitting a
> search engine--not likely.  (It's even less likely now
> that the files are .exe files.)

Doh! Of course...I'm seeing messages floating before my eyes at the 
moment - I keep forgetting that they aren't actually on the site.  

I guess we will need to take more care with the FAQs though <g>

Neil




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From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Wed Aug 23 02:52:37 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 02:52:37 -0000
Subject: Hurray!
Message-ID: <8nve9l+mafp@eGroups.com>

I've finished my batch and transferred it to FORT (and uploaded the 
file).

Incidentally, under the topic 'Hogwarts' it looks like someone has 
added numbers above the max capacity - the last number in that group 
is truncated and I suppose there may have been others after that 
(higher numbers).

Neil   




From linsenma at hic.net  Wed Aug 23 03:03:15 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:03:15 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Yahoo...& legal sensitivity
References: <1AB004C24D4CD311A19D0008C75F90EF0107A7C3@FTLEXC1>
Message-ID: <39A33EF3.A481496F@hic.net>

Hi:

"Tandy, Heidi" wrote:

> Penny - would you like to put something in the "Intro" to the club
> section which says "If You Join You Grant The Founders the
> royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive and fully
> sublicensable right and license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt,
> publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform
> and display such Content (in whole or part) worldwide and/or to
> incorporate it in other works in any form, media, or technology now
> known or later developed."

I think that's very appropriate.  I'm not entirely sure *where* to put
it though.  Wouldn't it legally be most effective if this license
language were spelled out right before the person hit "join"?  Also, how
do we cover existing members?  I'm not sure putting it in the Club FAQs
helps us much from a legal perspective, does it?  I'm not very up on
cyberspace law, which is completely developing.  You haven't really put
someone on notice that you're taking their thoughts & incorporating them
into another forum unless they know this up-front, before they join --
have you?

Perhaps I'm being too academic about this.  Heidi -- thoughts?

Penny
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From linsenma at hic.net  Wed Aug 23 03:04:44 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:04:44 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Hurray!
References: <8nve9l+mafp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <39A33F4C.B3B740D4@hic.net>

Hi --

Neil Ward wrote:

> Incidentally, under the topic 'Hogwarts' it looks like someone has
> added numbers above the max capacity - the last number in that group
> is truncated and I suppose there may have been others after that
> (higher numbers).

Drat!  That's probably me.  I'll look at my numbers again & re-enter
under "Hogwarts II" -- it took up alot of discussion the past month or
so.  Thanks Neil.

Penny

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From heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu  Wed Aug 23 13:40:52 2000
From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu (heidi)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:40:52 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Yahoo...& legal sensitivity
References: <1AB004C24D4CD311A19D0008C75F90EF0107A7C3@FTLEXC1> <39A33EF3.A481496F@hic.net>
Message-ID: <39A3D464.60A9A59C@the-beach.net>

Yet more lawyerly debate : )
Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer wrote:

> "Tandy, Heidi" wrote:
>
>> Penny - would you like to put something in the "Intro" to the club
>> section which says "If You Join You Grant The Founders the
>> royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive and fully
>> sublicensable right and license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt,
>> publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute,
>> perform and display such Content (in whole or part) worldwide and/or
>> to incorporate it in other works in any form, media, or technology
>> now known or later developed."
>
> I think that's very appropriate.  I'm not entirely sure *where* to put
> it though.  Wouldn't it legally be most effective if this license
> language were spelled out right before the person hit "join"?  Also,
> how do we cover existing members?  I'm not sure putting it in the Club
> FAQs helps us much from a legal perspective, does it?  I'm not very up
> on cyberspace law, which is completely developing.  You haven't really
> put someone on notice that you're taking their thoughts &
> incorporating them into another forum unless they know this up-front,
> before they join -- have you?

I've only put people on notice when I've drafted terms of service
agreements for commercial and noncommercial-but-professional websites
like The New York Times and http://www.marsmusic.com : )
It would be best if it was spelled out before people hit JOIN, but as a
matter of law, given the current industry standard, you could also add
it into the Founder's Message. Here's what I would add:

"This club is for  grown-ups to discuss the Harry Potter books. Our
discussions of this wonderful series are in-depth, thought-provoking and
fun. While there is no age requirement to join  the Club, please note
that most of our members are adults (18 or older). If you post to the
Club, you grant the Founders the royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable,
non-exclusive and fully sublicensable right and license to, for
noncommercial purposes,  use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish,
translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform and display
such Content (in whole or part) worldwide and/or to incorporate it in
other works in any form, media, or technology now known or later
developed. You've already granted the same license to Yahoo, and by
granting it to the Founders too, you enable us to maintain our FAQ and
create a searchable archive of messages."
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From linsenma at hic.net  Wed Aug 23 15:00:04 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:00:04 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Yahoo...& legal sensitivity
References: <1AB004C24D4CD311A19D0008C75F90EF0107A7C3@FTLEXC1> <39A33EF3.A481496F@hic.net> <39A3D464.60A9A59C@the-beach.net>
Message-ID: <39A3E6F3.BDC50527@hic.net>

Hi:

I can't add all that language to the Founders' Message because there
isn't room.  I'm thinking I could add a sentence referring people to the
Club FAQs page -- need a good way to phrase this one (somewhat short)
sentence so it doesn't scare away prospective members. I also think we
(me and/or Heidi) should post & explain it to our existing members.
I'll take a shot at posting about this subject now, and hopefully Heidi
can join in if the questions go beyond my IP expertise.

Also, Heidi -- can you think of a non-threatening way to put that
concept into one sentence in the Founders' Message?

Melanie -- I can also write up something in our current Q & A format to
add to the general Club FAQs page.

Penny

heidi wrote:

> Yet more lawyerly debate : )
> Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer wrote:
>
>> "Tandy, Heidi" wrote:
>>
>> > Penny - would you like to put something in the "Intro" to the club
>> > section which says "If You Join You Grant The Founders the
>> > royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive and fully
>> > sublicensable right and license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt,
>> > publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute,
>> > perform and display such Content (in whole or part) worldwide
>> > and/or to incorporate it in other works in any form, media, or
>> > technology now known or later developed."
>>
>> I think that's very appropriate.  I'm not entirely sure *where* to
>> put it though.  Wouldn't it legally be most effective if this
>> license language were spelled out right before the person hit
>> "join"?  Also, how do we cover existing members?  I'm not sure
>> putting it in the Club FAQs helps us much from a legal perspective,
>> does it?  I'm not very up on cyberspace law, which is completely
>> developing.  You haven't really put someone on notice that you're
>> taking their thoughts & incorporating them into another forum unless
>> they know this up-front, before they join -- have you?
>
> I've only put people on notice when I've drafted terms of service
> agreements for commercial and noncommercial-but-professional websites
> like The New York Times and http://www.marsmusic.com : )
> It would be best if it was spelled out before people hit JOIN, but as
> a matter of law, given the current industry standard, you could also
> add it into the Founder's Message. Here's what I would add:
>
> "This club is for  grown-ups to discuss the Harry Potter books. Our
> discussions of this wonderful series are in-depth, thought-provoking
> and fun. While there is no age requirement to join  the Club, please
> note that most of our members are adults (18 or older). If you post to
> the Club, you grant the Founders the royalty-free, perpetual,
> irrevocable, non-exclusive and fully sublicensable right and license
> to, for noncommercial purposes,  use, reproduce, modify, adapt,
> publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform
> and display such Content (in whole or part) worldwide and/or to
> incorporate it in other works in any form, media, or technology now
> known or later developed. You've already granted the same license to
> Yahoo, and by granting it to the Founders too, you enable us to
> maintain our FAQ and create a searchable archive of messages."
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From linsenma at hic.net  Wed Aug 23 15:33:17 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:33:17 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Yahoo...& legal sensitivity
References: <1AB004C24D4CD311A19D0008C75F90EF0107A7C3@FTLEXC1> <39A33EF3.A481496F@hic.net> <39A3D464.60A9A59C@the-beach.net> <39A3E6F3.BDC50527@hic.net>
Message-ID: <39A3EEBD.DE017767@hic.net>

Hi --

Heidi -- now I'm wondering if we couldn't make the language to go into
the Club FAQs less "scary" & less broad.  We really only need a license
to house the posts off-site in archives, right?  Is there anything else
we need in the forseeable future.  If not -- why don't we use the
following language (which will be less likely to rouse questions &
protests & the like):

"If you post to this Club, you also grant the Founders the royalty-free,
perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive and fully sublicensable right and
license to use, reproduce, adapt, publish, and display such Content (in
whole or part) worldwideand/or to incorporate such Content in other
works in any form, media, or technology now known or later developed.
At this time, the Founders only intend to use the Content of your posts
in archiving prior Club messages at a back-up website and in creating
Club FAQs."

Now that I've re-worked that a bit -- I found I couldn't eliminate too
much (the lawyer in me kept saying "No!  You can't eliminate that.").
Is it any better (less scary) than before? Opinions?

Penny


Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer wrote:

> Hi:
>
> I can't add all that language to the Founders' Message because there
> isn't room.  I'm thinking I could add a sentence referring people to
> the Club FAQs page -- need a good way to phrase this one (somewhat
> short) sentence so it doesn't scare away prospective members. I also
> think we (me and/or Heidi) should post & explain it to our existing
> members.  I'll take a shot at posting about this subject now, and
> hopefully Heidi can join in if the questions go beyond my IP
> expertise.
>
> Also, Heidi -- can you think of a non-threatening way to put that
> concept into one sentence in the Founders' Message?
>
> Melanie -- I can also write up something in our current Q & A format
> to add to the general Club FAQs page.
>
> Penny
>
> heidi wrote:
>
>> Yet more lawyerly debate : )
>> Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer wrote:
>>
>> > "Tandy, Heidi" wrote:
>> >
>> >>  Penny - would you like to put something in the "Intro" to the
>> >>  club section which says "If You Join You Grant The Founders the
>> >>  royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive and fully
>> >>  sublicensable right and license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt,
>> >>  publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute,
>> >>  perform and display such Content (in whole or part) worldwide
>> >>  and/or to incorporate it in other works in any form, media, or
>> >>  technology now known or later developed."
>> >
>> > I think that's very appropriate.  I'm not entirely sure *where* to
>> > put it though.  Wouldn't it legally be most effective if this
>> > license language were spelled out right before the person hit
>> > "join"?  Also, how do we cover existing members?  I'm not sure
>> > putting it in the Club FAQs helps us much from a legal perspective,
>> > does it?  I'm not very up on cyberspace law, which is completely
>> > developing.  You haven't really put someone on notice that you're
>> > taking their thoughts & incorporating them into another forum
>> > unless they know this up-front, before they join -- have you?
>>
>> I've only put people on notice when I've drafted terms of service
>> agreements for commercial and noncommercial-but-professional
>> websites like The New York Times and http://www.marsmusic.com : )
>> It would be best if it was spelled out before people hit JOIN, but
>> as a matter of law, given the current industry standard, you could
>> also add it into the Founder's Message. Here's what I would add:
>>
>> "This club is for  grown-ups to discuss the Harry Potter books. Our
>> discussions of this wonderful series are in-depth, thought-provoking
>> and fun. While there is no age requirement to join  the Club, please
>> note that most of our members are adults (18 or older). If you post
>> to the Club, you grant the Founders the royalty-free, perpetual,
>> irrevocable, non-exclusive and fully sublicensable right and license
>> to, for noncommercial purposes,  use, reproduce, modify, adapt,
>> publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute,
>> perform and display such Content (in whole or part) worldwide and/or
>> to incorporate it in other works in any form, media, or technology
>> now known or later developed. You've already granted the same
>> license to Yahoo, and by granting it to the Founders too, you enable
>> us to maintain our FAQ and create a searchable archive of messages."
>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>> HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com
>>
>>
>
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From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Wed Aug 23 16:40:48 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:40:48 -0000
Subject: Yahoo...& legal sensitivity
In-Reply-To: <39A3EEBD.DE017767@hic.net>
Message-ID: <8o0uqg+dum4@eGroups.com>

I'm not a lawyer [no surprise there], but can't we include a 
simplified reference in the club message, noting a URL which explains 
it in the legal mumbo-jumbo?

Something along the lines of... 

"If you post to this Club, you also grant the Founders the right and 
license to use such Content in other contexts. At this time, the 
Founders only intend to use the Content of your posts in archiving 
prior Club messages at a back-up website and in creating Club FAQs.  
If you have any concerns about infringement of your copyright, you 
are advised to read the full legal disclaimer at http://www.something-
or-other.com"

I suspect you'll scream 'NOOOOOO!' at me, but it's worth a try :)

Neil




From heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu  Wed Aug 23 17:54:39 2000
From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu (Tandy, Heidi)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:54:39 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Yahoo...& legal sensitivity
Message-ID: <1AB004C24D4CD311A19D0008C75F90EF0107A7CF@FTLEXC1>

 : 
        08/23/2000 1:53 PM 
                                                        Importance: 
 
Normal  

    
  I can't see any reason why that wouldn't work, right now - we could also
say Read the full license at Post
  Number 7___ instead of on a website - and if the law changes, then we can
change the Club Message - also, if
  we post the whole thing to the list, then everyone who read the messages
OR gets the emails will know about
  it. 

  Also, because of Euro copyright laws, I'd like to add in the phrase "moral
rights" in the list of what you're
  licensing. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Ward
To: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com
Sent: 08/23/2000 12:40 PM
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Yahoo...& legal sensitivity

I'm not a lawyer [no surprise there], but can't we include a 
simplified reference in the club message, noting a URL which explains 
it in the legal mumbo-jumbo?

Something along the lines of... 

"If you post to this Club, you also grant the Founders the right and 
license to use such Content in other contexts. At this time, the 
Founders only intend to use the Content of your posts in archiving 
prior Club messages at a back-up website and in creating Club FAQs.  
If you have any concerns about infringement of your copyright, you 
are advised to read the full legal disclaimer at http://www.something-
or-other.com"

I suspect you'll scream 'NOOOOOO!' at me, but it's worth a try :)

Neil




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From gypsycaine at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 23 21:49:38 2000
From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise Roger)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:49:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Yahoo...& legal sensitivity
Message-ID: <20000823214938.7483.qmail@web2102.mail.yahoo.com>

OH, help~

When are these due again? I thought someone had said
by Saturday, but my brain is being deep-friend, and I
recalled also a 24th in there?  {It's a blonde thing,
I think!)

I might have gotten a job at Hoover!  Yeah! Just have
to win them over at the interview.
--- "Tandy, Heidi"
<heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu> wrote:
>  : 
>         08/23/2000 1:53 PM 
>                                                     
>    Importance: 
>  
> Normal  
> 
>     
>   I can't see any reason why that wouldn't work,
> right now - we could also
> say Read the full license at Post
>   Number 7___ instead of on a website - and if the
> law changes, then we can
> change the Club Message - also, if
>   we post the whole thing to the list, then everyone
> who read the messages
> OR gets the emails will know about
>   it. 
> 
>   Also, because of Euro copyright laws, I'd like to
> add in the phrase "moral
> rights" in the list of what you're
>   licensing. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Ward
> To: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com
> Sent: 08/23/2000 12:40 PM
> Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Yahoo...& legal sensitivity
> 
> I'm not a lawyer [no surprise there], but can't we
> include a 
> simplified reference in the club message, noting a
> URL which explains 
> it in the legal mumbo-jumbo?
> 
> Something along the lines of... 
> 
> "If you post to this Club, you also grant the
> Founders the right and 
> license to use such Content in other contexts. At
> this time, the 
> Founders only intend to use the Content of your
> posts in archiving 
> prior Club messages at a back-up website and in
> creating Club FAQs.  
> If you have any concerns about infringement of your
> copyright, you 
> are advised to read the full legal disclaimer at
> http://www.something-
> or-other.com"
> 
> I suspect you'll scream 'NOOOOOO!' at me, but it's
> worth a try :)
> 
> Neil
> 
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From lrcjestes at msn.com  Fri Aug 25 19:56:14 2000
From: lrcjestes at msn.com (Carole Estes)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 19:56:14 -0000
Subject: Chapter discussions
Message-ID: <8o6j0u+jgdp@eGroups.com>

How did you all handle chapter discussions?  I have a bunch of posts 
about chapter 4 of GoF...are we going to create a category for each 
chapter discussion in GoF?  or should I look up the content of that 
chapter and apply it to and existing category?

I'm almost done...just a couple of misc. categories to go

carole




From linsenma at hic.net  Sat Aug 26 00:10:35 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 19:10:35 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Yahoo...& legal sensitivity
References: <20000823214938.7483.qmail@web2102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <39A70AFB.29461A6E@hic.net>

Hi --

Denise Roger wrote:

> When are these due again? I thought someone had said
> by Saturday, but my brain is being deep-friend, and I
> recalled also a 24th in there?  {It's a blonde thing,
> I think!)

Well, we technically had a due date of today (25th), but if you need a
bit more time, we can be lenient.  <g>

> I might have gotten a job at Hoover!  Yeah! Just have to win them over
> at the interview.

Hoover Presidential Library?  Hoover Vacuums?  Good luck.

Penny

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From gypsycaine at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 26 00:27:11 2000
From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 20:27:11 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Yahoo...& legal sensitivity
References: <20000823214938.7483.qmail@web2102.mail.yahoo.com> <39A70AFB.29461A6E@hic.net>
Message-ID: <008201c00ef4$60cb01e0$fedd5d18@neo.rr.com>

Thanks Penny!  Yes, I need more time.  Babysitting tonight two three year olds and a 4 mo. old.  It's an interesting night.  I have taken two hours to check ten emails!!!  :D

Yes, Hoover Vacuums.  They are based (originally) here in Canton, along with (who I also resume'd!) Timken and Diebold!  I don't know if I want to work with their insurance, but I would really like to work in North Canton, so that would be perfect.

Fingers crossed~
Dee

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer 
  To: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 8:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Yahoo...& legal sensitivity


  Hi -- 
  Denise Roger wrote: 

    When are these due again? I thought someone had said 
    by Saturday, but my brain is being deep-friend, and I 
    recalled also a 24th in there?  {It's a blonde thing, 
    I think!)
  Well, we technically had a due date of today (25th), but if you need a bit more time, we can be lenient.  <g> 
    I might have gotten a job at Hoover!  Yeah! Just have to win them over at the interview.
  Hoover Presidential Library?  Hoover Vacuums?  Good luck. 
  Penny 
    


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From MMcNie at mmsa.com  Sat Aug 26 02:57:04 2000
From: MMcNie at mmsa.com (McNie, Margaret)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 19:57:04 -0700
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Yahoo...& legal sensitivity
Message-ID: <983C4669E4FED2119EE80001FAF833A3674129@XCHNGHQ1>

Oh good! I'm not the only one who needs more time. Some unexpected
happenings this week. I'm about 1/2 done updating the database. I will
continue to work on it as much as I can.
 
 
Margaret 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Denise [mailto:gypsycaine at yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 5:27 PM
To: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com
Subject: Re: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Yahoo...& legal sensitivity


Thanks Penny!  Yes, I need more time.  Babysitting tonight two three year
olds and a 4 mo. old.  It's an interesting night.  I have taken two hours to
check ten emails!!!  :D
 
Yes, Hoover Vacuums.  They are based (originally) here in Canton, along with
(who I also resume'd!) Timken and Diebold!  I don't know if I want to work
with their insurance, but I would really like to work in North Canton, so
that would be perfect.
 
Fingers crossed~
Dee
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Penny  <mailto:linsenma at hic.net> & Bryce Linsenmayer 
To: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com <mailto:HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com>  
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Yahoo...& legal sensitivity

Hi -- 

Denise Roger wrote: 


When are these due again? I thought someone had said 
by Saturday, but my brain is being deep-friend, and I 
recalled also a 24th in there?  {It's a blonde thing, 
I think!)

Well, we technically had a due date of today (25th), but if you need a bit
more time, we can be lenient.  <g> 

I might have gotten a job at Hoover!  Yeah! Just have to win them over at
the interview.

Hoover Presidential Library?  Hoover Vacuums?  Good luck. 

Penny 
  
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From linsenma at hic.net  Sat Aug 26 20:07:33 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 15:07:33 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Chapter discussions
References: <8o6j0u+jgdp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <39A82385.344A685@hic.net>

Hi

Carole Estes wrote:

> How did you all handle chapter discussions?  I have a bunch of posts
> about chapter 4 of GoF...are we going to create a category for each
> chapter discussion in GoF?  or should I look up the content of that
> chapter and apply it to and existing category?

Sorry -- this got lost in my inbox.  My thought was that we could have a
FAQ that lists the message #s where people could go to find the chapter
summaries.  But, since egroups has a search feature, maybe this is less
necessary.  Probably not too much effort to set it up though.

Penny

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From heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu  Sun Aug 27 03:06:25 2000
From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu (heidi)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 23:06:25 -0400
Subject: Done with my last 300 messages
References: <1AB004C24D4CD311A19D0008C75F90EF0107A7C3@FTLEXC1> <39A33EF3.A481496F@hic.net> <39A3D464.60A9A59C@the-beach.net>
Message-ID: <39A885B1.99BF79E4@the-beach.net>

I've finished with messages 7001 - 7303 (I just couldn't stop!) but I
didn't do a chart - it was easier to handwrite on a printout of the FORT
table (hope that's not a problem, penny!).

WHo hasn't finished yet?




From gypsycaine at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 27 14:49:13 2000
From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 10:49:13 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Done with my last 300 messages
References: <1AB004C24D4CD311A19D0008C75F90EF0107A7C3@FTLEXC1> <39A33EF3.A481496F@hic.net> <39A3D464.60A9A59C@the-beach.net> <39A885B1.99BF79E4@the-beach.net>
Message-ID: <011301c01035$f88d6120$fedd5d18@neo.rr.com>

Heidi,
Thanks for the idea.  That makes more sense than my cluttered notepad document.  I think I will print out one of my old printer-spacing charts and use that to organize the first three.  (Will get back to sorting after the chat this afternoon, until then the little things, dishes, vacuuming, making beds, need to be done!)

:)
Dee

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: heidi 
  To: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:06 PM
  Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Done with my last 300 messages


  I've finished with messages 7001 - 7303 (I just couldn't stop!) but I
  didn't do a chart - it was easier to handwrite on a printout of the FORT
  table (hope that's not a problem, penny!).

  WHo hasn't finished yet?


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From gypsycaine at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 27 14:55:21 2000
From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 10:55:21 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Done with my last 300 messages
References: <1AB004C24D4CD311A19D0008C75F90EF0107A7C3@FTLEXC1> <39A33EF3.A481496F@hic.net> <39A3D464.60A9A59C@the-beach.net> <39A885B1.99BF79E4@the-beach.net> <011301c01035$f88d6120$fedd5d18@neo.rr.com>
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first three.  Wow, am I blonde today.  First three hundred.  what a difference a word makes.  (and yes, I am half done!)----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Denise 
  To: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:49 AM
  Subject: Re: [HP4GU-FAQ] Done with my last 300 messages


  Heidi,
  Thanks for the idea.  That makes more sense than my cluttered notepad document.  I think I will print out one of my old printer-spacing charts and use that to organize the first three.  (Will get back to sorting after the chat this afternoon, until then the little things, dishes, vacuuming, making beds, need to be done!)

  :)
  Dee

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: heidi 
    To: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com 
    Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:06 PM
    Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Done with my last 300 messages


    I've finished with messages 7001 - 7303 (I just couldn't stop!) but I
    didn't do a chart - it was easier to handwrite on a printout of the FORT
    table (hope that's not a problem, penny!).

    WHo hasn't finished yet?


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From linsenma at hic.net  Sun Aug 27 22:31:18 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 17:31:18 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Done with my last 300 messages
References: <1AB004C24D4CD311A19D0008C75F90EF0107A7C3@FTLEXC1> <39A33EF3.A481496F@hic.net> <39A3D464.60A9A59C@the-beach.net> <39A885B1.99BF79E4@the-beach.net>
Message-ID: <39A996B6.18CDB211@hic.net>

Hi --

heidi wrote:

> I've finished with messages 7001 - 7303 (I just couldn't stop!) but I
> didn't do a chart - it was easier to handwrite on a printout of the
> FORT
> table (hope that's not a problem, penny!).

That's fine with me.

> WHo hasn't finished yet?

I show that the following still haven't finished --

    Dee
    Scrimmers99
    Anne in Chicago
    Sam D.D.
    Diann Recla
    Sarvalsha (Margaret)

Still waiting on the last group from Anna (5951-6300), but she has
finished her first group.

It doesn't look like Diann Recla or Scrimmers99 ever subscribed to this
egroup so . . . . should we reassign their groupings?  Scrimmers had
351-700, and Diann had 1401-1750.

I think Margaret told us she needed more time, so I'm not worried about
her.  Dee also needed a bit more time.

Joywitch emailed her results to me -- I will enter them into the FORT
database soon.

That's the update from me --

Penny

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From rawaherc at cs.com  Sun Aug 27 22:32:53 2000
From: rawaherc at cs.com (rawaherc at cs.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 18:32:53 EDT
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Done with my last 300 messages
Message-ID: <f6.23ddcd8.26daf115@cs.com>

Ooopps - totally forgot! I'll enter them tomorrow, as we have guests this 
evening...as a forfeit, I offer to do one of the "missing"sections!

Anna



From joy0823 at earthlink.net  Sun Aug 27 23:20:07 2000
From: joy0823 at earthlink.net (- Joy -)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 19:20:07 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Done with my last 300 messages
References: <1AB004C24D4CD311A19D0008C75F90EF0107A7C3@FTLEXC1> <39A33EF3.A481496F@hic.net> <39A3D464.60A9A59C@the-beach.net> <39A885B1.99BF79E4@the-beach.net> <39A996B6.18CDB211@hic.net>
Message-ID: <008801c0107d$57393fe0$0100000a@joywelan>

I'll do one of the sections that still needs work.  Just let me know which
one...

~Joy~

----- Original Message -----
From: "Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer" <linsenma at hic.net>
To: <HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [HP4GU-FAQ] Done with my last 300 messages


> Hi --
>
> heidi wrote:
>
> > I've finished with messages 7001 - 7303 (I just couldn't stop!) but I
> > didn't do a chart - it was easier to handwrite on a printout of the
> > FORT
> > table (hope that's not a problem, penny!).
>
> That's fine with me.
>
> > WHo hasn't finished yet?
>
> I show that the following still haven't finished --
>
>     Dee
>     Scrimmers99
>     Anne in Chicago
>     Sam D.D.
>     Diann Recla
>     Sarvalsha (Margaret)
>
> Still waiting on the last group from Anna (5951-6300), but she has
> finished her first group.
>
> It doesn't look like Diann Recla or Scrimmers99 ever subscribed to this
> egroup so . . . . should we reassign their groupings?  Scrimmers had
> 351-700, and Diann had 1401-1750.
>
> I think Margaret told us she needed more time, so I'm not worried about
> her.  Dee also needed a bit more time.
>
> Joywitch emailed her results to me -- I will enter them into the FORT
> database soon.
>
> That's the update from me --
>
> Penny
>
>




From heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu  Mon Aug 28 00:58:46 2000
From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu (heidi)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 20:58:46 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Done with my last 300 messages
References: <1AB004C24D4CD311A19D0008C75F90EF0107A7C3@FTLEXC1> <39A33EF3.A481496F@hic.net> <39A3D464.60A9A59C@the-beach.net> <39A885B1.99BF79E4@the-beach.net> <39A996B6.18CDB211@hic.net>
Message-ID: <39A9B946.B1485108@the-beach.net>

Oh, if noone has it, I'll do the 351-700 set - I want an excuse to read
REALLY EARLY messages : )

Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer wrote:

> Hi --
>
> heidi wrote:
>
>> I've finished with messages 7001 - 7303 (I just couldn't stop!) but
>> I
>> didn't do a chart - it was easier to handwrite on a printout of the
>> FORT
>> table (hope that's not a problem, penny!).
>
> That's fine with me.
>
>> WHo hasn't finished yet?
>
> I show that the following still haven't finished --
>
>     Dee
>     Scrimmers99
>     Anne in Chicago
>     Sam D.D.
>     Diann Recla
>     Sarvalsha (Margaret)
>
> Still waiting on the last group from Anna (5951-6300), but she has
> finished her first group.
>
> It doesn't look like Diann Recla or Scrimmers99 ever subscribed to
> this egroup so . . . . should we reassign their groupings?  Scrimmers
> had 351-700, and Diann had 1401-1750.
>
> I think Margaret told us she needed more time, so I'm not worried
> about her.  Dee also needed a bit more time.
>
> Joywitch emailed her results to me -- I will enter them into the FORT
> database soon.
>
> That's the update from me --
>
> Penny
>
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From linsenma at hic.net  Mon Aug 28 02:21:30 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 21:21:30 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Done with my last 300 messages
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Message-ID: <39A9CCAA.A402FD40@hic.net>

Hi --

Consider 351 - 700 to be your 3rd grouping Heidi.  Thanks.  <g>

Penny

heidi wrote:

> Oh, if noone has it, I'll do the 351-700 set - I want an excuse to
> read REALLY EARLY messages : )
>
> Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer wrote:
>
>> Hi --
>>
>> heidi wrote:
>>
>> > I've finished with messages 7001 - 7303 (I just couldn't stop!) but
>> > I
>> > didn't do a chart - it was easier to handwrite on a printout of the
>> > FORT
>> > table (hope that's not a problem, penny!).
>>
>> That's fine with me.
>>
>> > WHo hasn't finished yet?
>>
>> I show that the following still haven't finished --
>>
>>     Dee
>>     Scrimmers99
>>     Anne in Chicago
>>     Sam D.D.
>>     Diann Recla
>>     Sarvalsha (Margaret)
>>
>> Still waiting on the last group from Anna (5951-6300), but she has
>> finished her first group.
>>
>> It doesn't look like Diann Recla or Scrimmers99 ever subscribed to
>> this egroup so . . . . should we reassign their groupings?
>> Scrimmers had 351-700, and Diann had 1401-1750.
>>
>> I think Margaret told us she needed more time, so I'm not worried
>> about her.  Dee also needed a bit more time.
>>
>> Joywitch emailed her results to me -- I will enter them into the
>> FORT database soon.
>>
>> That's the update from me --
>>
>> Penny
>>
>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>> HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com
>>
>>
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From linsenma at hic.net  Mon Aug 28 13:13:20 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 08:13:20 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Done with my last 300 messages
References: <f6.23ddcd8.26daf115@cs.com>
Message-ID: <39AA6570.7D1A1EA8@hic.net>

Hi --

rawaherc at cs.com wrote:

> Ooopps - totally forgot! I'll enter them tomorrow, as we have guests
> this evening...as a forfeit, I offer to do one of the
> "missing"sections!

Don't worry about it Anna.  No problem at all.  Joy & Heidi have
actually volunteered to do the 2 groups that we know need to be
redistributed (Scrimmers & Diann Recla).  I'm emailing Anne in Chicago &
Sam D.D. today to see where they are.  If we need someone to take over
their groups, I'll let you know.  Thanks again!!!

Penny

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From linsenma at hic.net  Mon Aug 28 13:14:26 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 08:14:26 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Done with my last 300 messages
References: <1AB004C24D4CD311A19D0008C75F90EF0107A7C3@FTLEXC1> <39A33EF3.A481496F@hic.net> <39A3D464.60A9A59C@the-beach.net> <39A885B1.99BF79E4@the-beach.net> <39A996B6.18CDB211@hic.net> <008801c0107d$57393fe0$0100000a@joywelan>
Message-ID: <39AA65B2.D9BABCFD@hic.net>

Hi --

- Joy - wrote:

> I'll do one of the sections that still needs work.  Just let me know
> which one...
>

Joy -- can you do 1401-1750?  Thanks!!!!

Penny
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From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Mon Aug 28 14:43:23 2000
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon Branford)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 14:43:23 -0000
Subject: Messages
In-Reply-To: <39AA65B2.D9BABCFD@hic.net>
Message-ID: <8odtqb+56rc@eGroups.com>

Hi all;

I have downloaded all of the files people have uploaded with their 
message summaries. According to this the following messages have been 
done: 1751-3150, 3501-3850, 4201-5950 and 6300-7000.

Note this only contains those who have uploaded files into the files 
section and others may have entered theirs into the FORT database.

When all the messages have been entered I will upload this file for 
all to use. In it I have tried to standardise the entries, but am not 
sure it is totally correct.

Simon 




From lrcjestes at msn.com  Mon Aug 28 16:36:06 2000
From: lrcjestes at msn.com (lrcjestes)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 12:36:06 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Messages
References: <8odtqb+56rc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <002c01c0110e$11249b80$2a615ecf@oemcomputer>



> Hi all;
>
> I have downloaded all of the files people have uploaded with their
> message summaries. According to this the following messages have been
> done: 1751-3150, 3501-3850, 4201-5950 and 6300-7000.
>

You should also have a file with summaries from messages 5250 -5600.  These
are the ones I did.  They are in an excel file...is that a problem, I can
convert to a word file if that would be better.  I saw it amongst the files
the last time I was at the site.  Let me know if its not there...I can
upload it again.  I also entered the message numbers into the database.

carole








From joy0823 at earthlink.net  Mon Aug 28 19:41:09 2000
From: joy0823 at earthlink.net (- Joy -)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:41:09 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Done with my last 300 messages
References: <1AB004C24D4CD311A19D0008C75F90EF0107A7C3@FTLEXC1> <39A33EF3.A481496F@hic.net> <39A3D464.60A9A59C@the-beach.net> <39A885B1.99BF79E4@the-beach.net> <39A996B6.18CDB211@hic.net> <008801c0107d$57393fe0$0100000a@joywelan> <39AA65B2.D9BABCFD@hic.net>
Message-ID: <004d01c01127$eb076120$0100000a@joywelan>

Penny wrote:
Joy -- can you do 1401-1750?  Thanks!!!!

That's fine with me... are we in a hurry to get them done?  I might not be
able to do it until the weekend.

~Joy~




From linsenma at hic.net  Mon Aug 28 20:32:56 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:32:56 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Done with my last 300 messages
References: <1AB004C24D4CD311A19D0008C75F90EF0107A7C3@FTLEXC1> <39A33EF3.A481496F@hic.net> <39A3D464.60A9A59C@the-beach.net> <39A885B1.99BF79E4@the-beach.net> <39A996B6.18CDB211@hic.net> <008801c0107d$57393fe0$0100000a@joywelan> <39AA65B2.D9BABCFD@hic.net> <004d01c01127$eb076120$0100000a@joywelan>
Message-ID: <39AACC78.66C3C15E@hic.net>

Hi --

- Joy - wrote:

> Penny wrote:
> Joy -- can you do 1401-1750?  Thanks!!!!
>
> That's fine with me... are we in a hurry to get them done?  I might
> not be
> able to do it until the weekend.

That's fine -- take your time!  Thanks again for taking these --

Penny

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From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 28 20:46:11 2000
From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 13:46:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Messages
Message-ID: <20000828204611.26812.qmail@web4805.mail.yahoo.com>


--- Simon Branford <simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk>
wrote:
> Hi all;
> 
> I have downloaded all of the files people have
> uploaded with their 
> message summaries. According to this the following
> messages have been 
> done: 1751-3150, 3501-3850, 4201-5950 and 6300-7000.
> 
> Note this only contains those who have uploaded
> files into the files 
> section and others may have entered theirs into the
> FORT database.
> 
> When all the messages have been entered I will
> upload this file for 
> all to use. In it I have tried to standardise the
> entries, but am not 
> sure it is totally correct.
> 
> Simon 
> 


You should also have the ones I did: 5601-5905.  I
downloaded those in addition to putting them into the
FORT base.

Melanie


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From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Mon Aug 28 21:25:51 2000
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon Branford)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 21:25:51 -0000
Subject: Messages
In-Reply-To: <002c01c0110e$11249b80$2a615ecf@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <8oelcv+l052@eGroups.com>

Melanie wrote: "You should also have the ones I did: 5601-5905.  I
downloaded those in addition to putting them into the
FORT base."

and

Carole wrote: "You should also have a file with summaries from 
messages 5250 -5600."

They will be in the 4201-5950 section. I have put all the files 
uploaded into one big file which covers the messages: 1751-3150, 3501-
3850, 4201-5950 and 6300-7000.

Simon




From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 28 22:07:55 2000
From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:07:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Messages
Message-ID: <20000828220755.4425.qmail@web4802.mail.yahoo.com>


--- Simon Branford <simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk>
wrote:
> Melanie wrote: "You should also have the ones I did:
> 5601-5905.  I
> downloaded those in addition to putting them into
> the
> FORT base."
> 
> and
> 
> Carole wrote: "You should also have a file with
> summaries from 
> messages 5250 -5600."
> 
> They will be in the 4201-5950 section. I have put
> all the files 
> uploaded into one big file which covers the
> messages: 1751-3150, 3501-
> 3850, 4201-5950 and 6300-7000.
> 
> Simon
> 
> 

Oops, I was looking only at individual 350-long
sections.  I didn't pay attention to the ranges.  My
bad!

Melanie


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From lrcjestes at msn.com  Tue Aug 29 01:18:27 2000
From: lrcjestes at msn.com (lrcjestes)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 21:18:27 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Messages
References: <8oelcv+l052@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <003f01c01158$496194e0$c7ac153f@oemcomputer>


> Melanie wrote: "You should also have the ones I did: 5601-5905.  I
> downloaded those in addition to putting them into the
> FORT base."
>
> and
>
> Carole wrote: "You should also have a file with summaries from
> messages 5250 -5600."
>
> They will be in the 4201-5950 section. I have put all the files
> uploaded into one big file which covers the messages: 1751-3150, 3501-
> 3850, 4201-5950 and 6300-7000.
>
> Simon

Duh...having a stupid moment...sorry...

carole






From heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu  Tue Aug 29 16:24:01 2000
From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu (heidi tandy)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 16:24:01 -0000
Subject: Just had to share
Message-ID: <8ogo31+29d5@eGroups.com>

This was the kind of thing I wanted to find while looking thru 
messages from this past january:

<< SUBJ: Amazon.com  voicelady_2000
 1/31/00 1:13 pm 
I was surfing yesterday, and I noticed on Amazon.com that "Harry 
Potter and the Doomspell Tournament" is already on the top 5 books on 
their list. People have already been preordering it by the tousands! 
I think I'll wait. >> 





From heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu  Tue Aug 29 17:23:10 2000
From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu (heidi tandy)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:23:10 -0000
Subject: More sharing
Message-ID: <8ogrhu+4q0v@eGroups.com>

Just had to let all of you see this (penny, hope you don't mind! I 
think it's interesting to see hte genesis of Pet Ideas & Obsessions!)

Re: Newbie Intro  plinsenmayer
(34/F/Houston, TX)  3/2/00 4:07 pm 

I like your point about the books *couldn't* remain in the top slots 
of the NY Times Bestsellers List if *only* children were buying 
them!! I agree completely! 

Does anyone know whether the books have spent a record amount of time 
on the Bestseller List yet? I know it was unprecedented for one 
author to have the top 3 spots. I also wonder how the sales figures 
stack out against perennial best-selling books by John Grisham, Tom 
Clancy, Robert Ludlum, etc. And how do they stack up against some of 
the best-selling books of all time, like one of my favorites Gone 
with the Wind?? 

Penny  





From heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu  Tue Aug 29 17:30:14 2000
From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu (heidi tandy)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:30:14 -0000
Subject: last one! I promise!
Message-ID: <8ogrv6+nd7n@eGroups.com>

Read the last paragraph. Penny, when did you take Divination class? 
You're better then trelawney!

Re: Quidditch  plinsenmayer
(34/F/Houston, TX)  3/23/00 4:12 pm 
<Guess I need some new hobbies too. On one hand, <I'm eagerly looking 
forward to Doomspell Tournament, so I can find out "what happens
next". On the other hand, I know I'll finish it within a few days, 
and be back where I am now. In fact, I'll probably stay up all night 
reading it,
and live to regret it at work the next day!>

<Ha! I know - me too!>

Count me in too! July 8th is a Saturday though, so if you are off 
weekends, you can stay up all night on Saturday and not worry about 
your job performance the next day. <g>

Does anyone else anticipate that there might be a bit of a media 
craze with the release of Book 4 (I think I read that in some 
locations when POA was released, the bookstores opened at midnight, 
etc.)? Another HP friend and I here are already making plans to spend 
the night in line if necessary to get our copies the second they are 
released. 
 





From HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com  Tue Aug 29 20:37:57 2000
From: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com (HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com)
Date: 29 Aug 2000 20:37:57 -0000
Subject: New file uploaded to HP4GU-FAQ 
Message-ID: <967581477.13034@egroups.com>


Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the HP4GU-FAQ 
group.

  File        : /FAQ3.doc 
  Uploaded by : rawaherc at cs.com 
  Description : Anna's table (in word, hope it works) 5951-6301  

You can access this file at the URL

http://www.egroups.com/files/HP4GU-FAQ/FAQ3%2Edoc 

To learn more about eGroups file sharing, please visit

http://www.egroups.com/help/files.html


Regards,

rawaherc at cs.com
 






From rawaherc at cs.com  Tue Aug 29 20:39:35 2000
From: rawaherc at cs.com ( Anna Marie Rawa)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 20:39:35 -0000
Subject: OK  FINALLY!!!!
Message-ID: <8oh727+mq2d@eGroups.com>

Appologies for my second set being so late, but its all there now! 
Any more I can do, let me know!!!!




From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 29 20:58:39 2000
From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:58:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] OK  FINALLY!!!!
Message-ID: <20000829205839.1828.qmail@web4801.mail.yahoo.com>


---  Anna Marie Rawa <rawaherc at cs.com> wrote:
> Appologies for my second set being so late, but its
> all there now! 
> Any more I can do, let me know!!!!
> 
> 


No need to apologize!  Thank you very much for doing
that second set.

Melanie

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From heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu  Wed Aug 30 17:06:42 2000
From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu (heidi tandy)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 17:06:42 -0000
Subject: ok, done
Message-ID: <8ojev2+audr@eGroups.com>

I wrapped up my last set of messages, 351 to 700. And they were a 
HOOT! Y'all have already seen some of my favorites - I just love 
reading all the "I've heard that george weasley is going to get 
killed" posts, was disapointed to read a post linking to an interview 
where JKR says there is *no merlin college* (boo.), and enjoyed the 
experience of knowing that I could read 350 posts without ONE 
mentioning that fricking gleam in dumbledore's eye : )
It's FAQwriting time!
Penny - since I am doing the potters, should I write up the He Came 
Out Of The Wand First thing, or should whoever is doing Mysteries & 
Inconsistancies do it, or should we work together?




From linsenma at hic.net  Wed Aug 30 17:40:09 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 12:40:09 -0500
Subject: FAQs -- Anne in Chicago & Sam -- are you out there?
References: <8odtqb+56rc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <39AD46F9.D82BF439@hic.net>

Hi everyone:

First:  Anne in Chicago & Sam?  Are you out there?  We haven't heard
anything from either of you re: whether you've run into a problem with
sorting through your assigned grouping.

I think we'll reassign if we don't hear something from them by the end
of this week.

Update from Dee or Margaret as to when you'll be done?  <g>

I need to enter in Joywitch's responses and update the "Hogwarts"
category on the FORT to be sure it contains all the message references.
Then, I'm done unless I need to take another grouping.

Heidi -- I liked all those really early posts that you spotlighted for
us!  Yes, I admit I was early on fascinated with the sales figures/NY
Times Bestseller List issue.  Even before they jumped off the deep end
into the abyss of insanity.  <g>

> and enjoyed the experience of knowing that I could read 350 posts without ONE
> mentioning that fricking gleam in dumbledore's eye : )
>
LOL!  Unfortunately, there were lots of those posts in my groups.

> It's FAQwriting time!
>
Yes, it is.  Does anyone have any thoughts about their own timing
issues?  I am planning to shoot for having mine done by the end of
September.  I may be able to get it done more quickly but it may take
all month with some of the larger ones.  I don't necessarily want to
dictate *deadlines* but it would also be best if we don't drag it out
forever.

By my list, the people writing the FAQs are: me, Melanie, Heidi, Simon,
Neil, Carole, Ebony & Margaret.  If you've done your assigned grouping
and aren't writing any of the FAQs, you can feel free to unsubscribe to
this group so you don't have to listen to us chit-chatting about the
FAQs (unless you want to stay of course!).

> Penny - since I am doing the potters, should I write up the He Came
> Out Of The Wand First thing, or should whoever is doing Mysteries &
> Inconsistancies do it, or should we work together?
>
Seems to me that this is one of those topics that could be covered both
places.  I'm the one doing GoF Mysteries so . . . yeah, we can just work
on that one together.  I'm sure there will be others that can logically
be slated into more than one FAQ.  The idea, I guess, is for someone
searching through the topical FAQs to be able to find the answer (or the
theories) relating to a particular topic.  With the above, they might
think to look under GoF Mysteries, but they might also look at the James
& Lily Potter pages.

Penny



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From heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu  Wed Aug 30 17:43:38 2000
From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu (Tandy, Heidi)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 13:43:38 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] FAQs -- where should things be?
Message-ID: <1AB004C24D4CD311A19D0008C75F90EF0107A844@FTLEXC1>

Penny - since I am doing the potters, should I write up the He Came 

Out Of The Wand First thing, or should whoever is doing Mysteries & 

Inconsistancies do it, or should we work together? 
 Seems to me that this is one of those topics that could be covered both
places.  I'm the one doing GoF Mysteries so . . . yeah, we can just work on
that one together.  I'm sure there will be others that can logically be
slated into more than one FAQ.  The idea, I guess, is for someone searching
through the topical FAQs to be able to find the answer (or the theories)
relating to a particular topic.  With the above, they might think to look
under GoF Mysteries, but they might also look at the James & Lily Potter
pages.   

 
 
And here's another thought about that - the GoF mysteries will *always* be
GoF mysteries, no matter whether they are "solved" in later books, but the
info we have on, say, James & Lily will change as the new books are
released, so it makes sense to have them in both places, and maybe link from
one to the other, and right now, have the exact same text in both places,
but have the J&L faq change again next July.
I like the idea of hte Inconsistencies & Mysteries staying the same forever,
like a snapshot of What We Thought Then, sort of like the old posts are...


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From heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu  Wed Aug 30 17:47:53 2000
From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu (heidi tandy)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 17:47:53 -0000
Subject: listownership
Message-ID: <8ojhc9+qps9@eGroups.com>

Penny, whatever happened to barbara, who, it seems, started the group?




From MMcNie at mmsa.com  Wed Aug 30 17:28:41 2000
From: MMcNie at mmsa.com (McNie, Margaret)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:28:41 -0700
Subject: Gleam in Dumbledoe's Eye
Message-ID: <983C4669E4FED2119EE80001FAF833A3674137@XCHNGHQ1>


Oh gee, I thought I was the only one who wanted to throw something every
time that subject came up . . . yet again. Pity me though since I have to do
the FAQ on Dumbledore.

Just to let you know Penny and Melanie, I haven't forgotten about my
assignment (3850-4200) and everything is in the database. I'm just doing
some double-checking. (Why do I think I've made this too difficult?) When I
finally accept that I am done, I will upload the file itself.

Is there a FAQ written yet that we can use as a sample? Also what is the
last message that has been covered? I assume we are responsible for getting
the messages from that one until the present for our subjects.


Margaret

-----Original Message-----
From: heidi tandy [mailto:heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 10:07 AM
To: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] ok, done



I wrapped up my last set of messages, 351 to 700. And they were a 
HOOT! Y'all have already seen some of my favorites - I just love 
reading all the "I've heard that george weasley is going to get 
killed" posts, was disapointed to read a post linking to an interview 
where JKR says there is *no merlin college* (boo.), and enjoyed the 
experience of knowing that I could read 350 posts without ONE 
mentioning that fricking gleam in dumbledore's eye : )
It's FAQwriting time!
Penny - since I am doing the potters, should I write up the He Came 
Out Of The Wand First thing, or should whoever is doing Mysteries & 
Inconsistancies do it, or should we work together?


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From MMcNie at mmsa.com  Wed Aug 30 17:55:11 2000
From: MMcNie at mmsa.com (McNie, Margaret)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:55:11 -0700
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] FAQs -- Anne in Chicago & Sam -- are you out ther e?
Message-ID: <983C4669E4FED2119EE80001FAF833A3674138@XCHNGHQ1>

Hi Penny,
 
By now you have probably seen my earlier post. I will be done either today
or tomorrow. I'm one of those people who has a hard time stopping the
editing. Nothing is ever actually finished; it's just in rewrites. But I owe
my sister a packing list for our trip and I promised her I'd send it when I
was finished with Harry. So I am being forced to finish which is just as
well.
 
There has been a lot of discussion of werewolves, some of it tied to Lupin
and some not. Should the werewolf discussion be included with my FAQ on
Lupin or should it be somewhere else. Or do we need to share like the Potter
death order thing.
 
Neil, if you're listening, we will be in London in six weeks so I hope
you're working on that weather thing. Does it make a difference that of the
5 of us, 4 are HP fans?
 
 
Margaret
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer [mailto:linsenma at hic.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 10:40 AM
To: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com
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Hi everyone: 


First:  Anne in Chicago & Sam?  Are you out there?  We haven't heard
anything from either of you re: whether you've run into a problem with
sorting through your assigned grouping. 


I think we'll reassign if we don't hear something from them by the end of
this week. 


Update from Dee or Margaret as to when you'll be done?  <g> 


I need to enter in Joywitch's responses and update the "Hogwarts" category
on the FORT to be sure it contains all the message references.  Then, I'm
done unless I need to take another grouping. 


Heidi -- I liked all those really early posts that you spotlighted for us!
Yes, I admit I was early on fascinated with the sales figures/NY Times
Bestseller List issue.  Even before they jumped off the deep end into the
abyss of insanity.  <g> 


and enjoyed the experience of knowing that I could read 350 posts without
ONE 

mentioning that fricking gleam in dumbledore's eye : )

LOL!  Unfortunately, there were lots of those posts in my groups. 

It's FAQwriting time!

Yes, it is.  Does anyone have any thoughts about their own timing issues?  I
am planning to shoot for having mine done by the end of September.  I may be
able to get it done more quickly but it may take all month with some of the
larger ones.  I don't necessarily want to dictate *deadlines* but it would
also be best if we don't drag it out forever. 

By my list, the people writing the FAQs are: me, Melanie, Heidi, Simon,
Neil, Carole, Ebony & Margaret.  If you've done your assigned grouping and
aren't writing any of the FAQs, you can feel free to unsubscribe to this
group so you don't have to listen to us chit-chatting about the FAQs (unless
you want to stay of course!).   


Penny - since I am doing the potters, should I write up the He Came 

Out Of The Wand First thing, or should whoever is doing Mysteries & 

Inconsistancies do it, or should we work together?

Seems to me that this is one of those topics that could be covered both
places.  I'm the one doing GoF Mysteries so . . . yeah, we can just work on
that one together.  I'm sure there will be others that can logically be
slated into more than one FAQ.  The idea, I guess, is for someone searching
through the topical FAQs to be able to find the answer (or the theories)
relating to a particular topic.  With the above, they might think to look
under GoF Mysteries, but they might also look at the James & Lily Potter
pages. 

Penny 
  
  
  
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From gypsycaine at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 30 18:56:55 2000
From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 14:56:55 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] FAQs -- Anne in Chicago & Sam -- are you out there?
References: <8odtqb+56rc@eGroups.com> <39AD46F9.D82BF439@hic.net>
Message-ID: <004101c012b4$19b54fe0$77dc5d18@neo.rr.com>

Penny,
I uploaded my copy into the files, but didn't want to make a big fuss about it, until I got the answer to that demented email I sent you, if you could interrupt it?

Dee
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  From: Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer 
  To: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 1:40 PM
  Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] FAQs -- Anne in Chicago & Sam -- are you out there?



       
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  Hi everyone: 

  First:  Anne in Chicago & Sam?  Are you out there?  We haven't heard anything from either of you re: whether you've run into a problem with sorting through your assigned grouping. 

  I think we'll reassign if we don't hear something from them by the end of this week. 

  Update from Dee or Margaret as to when you'll be done?  <g> 

  I need to enter in Joywitch's responses and update the "Hogwarts" category on the FORT to be sure it contains all the message references.  Then, I'm done unless I need to take another grouping. 

  Heidi -- I liked all those really early posts that you spotlighted for us!  Yes, I admit I was early on fascinated with the sales figures/NY Times Bestseller List issue.  Even before they jumped off the deep end into the abyss of insanity.  <g> 

and enjoyed the experience of knowing that I could read 350 posts without ONE 
mentioning that fricking gleam in dumbledore's eye : )
  LOL!  Unfortunately, there were lots of those posts in my groups. 
It's FAQwriting time!
  Yes, it is.  Does anyone have any thoughts about their own timing issues?  I am planning to shoot for having mine done by the end of September.  I may be able to get it done more quickly but it may take all month with some of the larger ones.  I don't necessarily want to dictate *deadlines* but it would also be best if we don't drag it out forever. 
  By my list, the people writing the FAQs are: me, Melanie, Heidi, Simon, Neil, Carole, Ebony & Margaret.  If you've done your assigned grouping and aren't writing any of the FAQs, you can feel free to unsubscribe to this group so you don't have to listen to us chit-chatting about the FAQs (unless you want to stay of course!).   

Penny - since I am doing the potters, should I write up the He Came 
Out Of The Wand First thing, or should whoever is doing Mysteries & 
Inconsistancies do it, or should we work together?
  Seems to me that this is one of those topics that could be covered both places.  I'm the one doing GoF Mysteries so . . . yeah, we can just work on that one together.  I'm sure there will be others that can logically be slated into more than one FAQ.  The idea, I guess, is for someone searching through the topical FAQs to be able to find the answer (or the theories) relating to a particular topic.  With the above, they might think to look under GoF Mysteries, but they might also look at the James & Lily Potter pages. 
  Penny 
    
    
    
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From lrcjestes at msn.com  Wed Aug 30 19:16:52 2000
From: lrcjestes at msn.com (lrcjestes)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 15:16:52 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] FAQs -- Anne in Chicago & Sam -- are you out there?
References: <8odtqb+56rc@eGroups.com> <39AD46F9.D82BF439@hic.net>
Message-ID: <001901c012b6$db25a880$a78fd6ce@oemcomputer>

It's FAQwriting time!
  Yes, it is.  Does anyone have any thoughts about their own timing issues?  I am planning to shoot for having mine done by the end of September.  I may be able to get it done more quickly but it may take all month with some of the larger ones.  I don't necessarily want to dictate *deadlines* but it would also be best if we don't drag it out forever. 
  By my list, the people writing the FAQs are: me, Melanie, Heidi, Simon, Neil, Carole, Ebony & Margaret.  If you've done your assigned grouping and aren't writing any of the FAQs, you can feel free to unsubscribe to this group so you don't have to listen to us chit-chatting about the FAQs (unless you want to stay of course!).   


I'll start my FAQ after I come back from my big weekend with the girls...without kids!!!!! yea
I have Sirius and Humor and ???? is this listed at the site...I'll check it out later

Carole

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From linsenma at hic.net  Wed Aug 30 19:49:58 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 14:49:58 -0500
Subject: Questions
Message-ID: <39AD6566.8653315D@hic.net>

Hi:

Dee -- Sorry, I wasn't sure what message you wanted me to answer for
you?  I must have missed it or deleted it accidentally.  Oops.

Margaret -- Your timing sounds fine.  I can understand about being
extra-meticulous.  I hope Neil can come through on some good weather for
you.  We had amazing weather while we were there in April & May -- clear
blue skies & no rain for 6 straight days.

RE: Werewolves.  I would think general discussion could be included in
Magical Creatures (Heidi -- do you agree?).  Then, maybe there could a
cross-reference in the Lupin FAQ that says see "Magical Creatures FAQ"
for more general information on werewolves.  What do people think?

Carole -- You're down for Sirius, Hagrid & HP Humor.  Anyone can check
their FAQs at the Master List of FAQs in the Databases section.

Master FAQ -- well, I think I volunteered to do that like weeks ago.  I
did start the Potential Romantic Pairings FAQ but haven't had much time
to work on it.  I might have it done after Labor Day weekend, although
my parents will be here visiting part of that time.  I was wondering if
we could use the special Harry Potter font that Paul used for the
Message Archives for the title of each FAQ.  Is that easy enough to do?
That would be cool I think.

Last message covered was like 7500.  There are about 8000 over at Yahoo
before we moved and probably 300-400 over here since then.  Yikes.
Balloons out of control quickly, doesn't it?  Any thoughts on this???

Penny




From linsenma at hic.net  Wed Aug 30 19:51:44 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 14:51:44 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] FAQs -- where should things be?
References: <1AB004C24D4CD311A19D0008C75F90EF0107A844@FTLEXC1>
Message-ID: <39AD65CF.CE9240F4@hic.net>

Hi --

"Tandy, Heidi" wrote:

> And here's another thought about that - the GoF mysteries will
> *always* be GoF mysteries, no matter whether they are "solved" in
> later books, but the info we have on, say, James & Lily will change as
> the new books are released, so it makes sense to have them in both
> places, and maybe link from one to the other, and right now, have the
> exact same text in both places, but have the J&L faq change again next
> July.
> I like the idea of hte Inconsistencies & Mysteries staying the same
> forever, like a snapshot of What We Thought Then, sort of like the old
> posts are...
>
I like that thought too Heidi -- the snapshot idea for the Mysteries
section.  And, yes, in that case, the Potters' FAQ can change over time
to reflect solved mysteries.

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From linsenma at hic.net  Wed Aug 30 19:52:52 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 14:52:52 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] listownership
References: <8ojhc9+qps9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <39AD6614.2791E823@hic.net>

Hi --

heidi tandy wrote:

> Penny, whatever happened to barbara, who, it seems, started the group?
>
>

She's still around.  I noticed she even has migrated over to egroups
with us.  She just lurks now I guess.  She posts every once in a great
while.

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From heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu  Wed Aug 30 19:53:24 2000
From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu (Tandy, Heidi)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 15:53:24 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Questions
Message-ID: <1AB004C24D4CD311A19D0008C75F90EF0107A848@FTLEXC1>

> -----Original Message-----
> RE: Werewolves.  I would think general discussion could be included in
> Magical Creatures (Heidi -- do you agree?).  Then, maybe there could a
> cross-reference in the Lupin FAQ that says see "Magical Creatures FAQ"
> for more general information on werewolves.  What do people think?

I like this idea - I like the idea of a faq tha tcross references with
itself.
A few weeks ago, I suggested to Penny that a potential framework for how the
FAQ would look could be at the WDWIG site at http://www.wdwig.com- it's the
Walt Disney World Information Guide & it all cross references with itself,
has a very very simple on-screen style, and is basically great for
information - and you can get wonderfully lost popping from one link to
another. 
What do the rest of you think?

> Last message covered was like 7500.  There are about 8000 
> over at Yahoo
> before we moved and probably 300-400 over here since then.  Yikes.
> Balloons out of control quickly, doesn't it?  Any thoughts on this???
> 

Now that I'm getting messages in email form, I am moving everything that
deals with one of my faqs into subfolders, one for each faq - it's letting
me keep them handy (although I admit to not moving everything - if it's
completely redundant, I just let it go into the trash, but if it has a new
perspective, or new info, then I save it so I can use it)


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From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Wed Aug 30 20:23:52 2000
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon Branford)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 21:23:52 +0100
Subject: FAQ's
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINMEJGCHAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

If a subject crops up in more than one section then there seems to be a few
options.
1: A decision is made as to which FAQ it appears in and for the other to
point people in the right direction.
2: It is put into all the suitable FAQ's, written from the point of view of
the FAQ.

I think it my be best for the times when this occurs for the FAQ writers to
decide between them as to what is the best course of action.

I have started to think about one of my less important FAQ's. This left me
referring to the books a few times. I decided that it would be necessary to
put in a few quotes from the books. Each of these I have labelled in the
format of Book code: chapter number.

The end of September sounds fine to me. I will have to wait and see if this
is feasible when I have started to write them!

Simon




From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Wed Aug 30 20:27:40 2000
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon Branford)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 21:27:40 +0100
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Questions
In-Reply-To: <39AD6566.8653315D@hic.net>
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINGEJICHAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

What are we defining as Magical creatures and animal characters?

Simon




From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 30 20:29:58 2000
From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 13:29:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] FAQs -- Anne in Chicago & Sam -- are you out there?
Message-ID: <20000830202958.16979.qmail@web4802.mail.yahoo.com>

> I think we'll reassign if we don't hear something
> from them by the end
> of this week.

I'll be happy to do one of their groups of messages.


> > and enjoyed the experience of knowing that I could
> read 350 posts without ONE
> > mentioning that fricking gleam in dumbledore's eye
> : )

Or about Lily, James and the order they came out of
the wand?



> Yes, it is.  Does anyone have any thoughts about
> their own timing
> issues?  I am planning to shoot for having mine done
> by the end of
> September.


The end of September sounds more than fair to me.



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From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 30 20:43:53 2000
From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 13:43:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Questions
Message-ID: <20000830204353.603.qmail@web4801.mail.yahoo.com>

> A few weeks ago, I suggested to Penny that a
> potential framework for how the
> FAQ would look could be at the WDWIG site at
> http://www.wdwig.com- it's the
> Walt Disney World Information Guide & it all cross
> references with itself,
> has a very very simple on-screen style, and is
> basically great for
> information - and you can get wonderfully lost
> popping from one link to
> another. 
> What do the rest of you think?


That looks good to me, and I can easily design it for
HTML.  One small difference I'd recommend is that the
table of contents page be set so that the links open a
new window (as most Yahoo pages do), rather than
replacing the "table" page in the same one. That way,
the table of contents page remains easily available,
no matter how far someone "wanders" from that.  I can
quite set that up as well.

Melanie

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From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 30 20:55:03 2000
From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 13:55:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Questions
Message-ID: <20000830205503.18848.qmail@web4803.mail.yahoo.com>

> Last message covered was like 7500.  There are about
> 8000 over at Yahoo
> before we moved and probably 300-400 over here since
> then.  Yikes.
> Balloons out of control quickly, doesn't it?  Any
> thoughts on this???


I was wondering the same thing.  I think we should do
the last 500 or so in the Yahoo club.  I suspect a
good 50% of these deal with Yahoo grousing and the
move to eGroups.  I do think, however, that we need to
determine a cutoff, or we'll *never* finish! <G>  To
me, sticking with the messages on the Yahoo club seem
like a good cutoff.

I do have another idea about incorporating the eGroups
messages.  Instead of assigning groups of messages,
how about if each of us uses the search function to
look for past messages relevant to out subjects, and
keeps an eye out for future ones?  Thoughts anyone?

Melanie

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From kippesp at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 31 03:55:39 2000
From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 20:55:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Questions
Message-ID: <20000831035539.10960.qmail@web2103.mail.yahoo.com>


  Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer <linsenma at hic.net> wrote: 

I was wondering if we could use the special Harry Potter font that Paul used for the
Message Archives for the title of each FAQ. Is that easy enough to do?
That would be cool I think.

It took me a while since I had a colored background.  A colored background required a transparent GIF.  I had never made a transparent GIF before.  If you choose to use a white background, things are much easier.  (The reason a GIF is needed is this font isn't a standard Internet font so it must be a graphic.  I used a GIF graphic.)

Since I'm not doing any FAQ writing, I'd be glad to help out in this area.  Let me know.

But to answer your question: it isn't hard with the right tools.  I used Paint Shop Pro, but I'm sure someone on the FAQ knows of other programs that will do the trick.  I don't know if it is possible to make the graphic using free Microsoft tools.

 



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From kippesp at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 31 04:04:29 2000
From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 21:04:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Questions
Message-ID: <20000831040429.293.qmail@web2106.mail.yahoo.com>


Melanie Moore <ravenclawlady at yahoo.com> wrote: 

That looks good to me, and I can easily design it for
HTML. One small difference I'd recommend is that the
table of contents page be set so that the links open a
new window (as most Yahoo pages do), rather than
replacing the "table" page in the same one. That way,
the table of contents page remains easily available,
no matter how far someone "wanders" from that. I can
quite set that up as well.

Melanie

What would be the drawback to using frames?
see http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/ for an example of a simple and well-organized site.

I tend to dislike auto-opening links (adds clutter) and javascript links (can't right-button click with mouse).

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From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 31 06:59:05 2000
From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (Melanie Moore)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 23:59:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Questions
Message-ID: <20000831065905.7526.qmail@web4805.mail.yahoo.com>


--- Paul Kippes <kippesp at yahoo.com> wrote:

> What would be the drawback to using frames?
> see http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/ for an example of a
> simple and well-organized site.
> 
> I tend to dislike auto-opening links (adds clutter) and
> javascript links (can't right-button click with mouse).
> 
> Paul


I could do that as well, though I understand some users (such as
WebTV) have a difficult time with frames, or simply don't like
them.

I could, however, set it up like my own site (at
http://www.geocities.com/ravenclawlady ).  By default, it is set
up in frames, with the table of contents on the left, but it
also offers the option of no frames.  For those who can't use
frames (or choose not to), the home page has the same links as
the TOC, and each page (except those pertaining to HP4GU) has a
link back to it.

Melanie

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From joy0823 at earthlink.net  Thu Aug 31 18:13:08 2000
From: joy0823 at earthlink.net (- Joy -)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 14:13:08 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Questions
References: <20000831065905.7526.qmail@web4805.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <009b01c01377$1e444340$0100000a@joywelan>

I like the idea of giving people the option to choose frames or not.  I
personally find them easier, but I know of a lot of people who detest them.
To each his own ; )

~Joy~

----- Original Message -----
From: "Melanie Moore" <ravenclawlady at yahoo.com>
To: <HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 2:59 AM
Subject: RE: [HP4GU-FAQ] Questions


>
>      My Groups | HP4GU-FAQ Main Page | Start a new group!
>
>
>
> --- Paul Kippes <kippesp at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > What would be the drawback to using frames?
> > see http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/ for an example of a
> > simple and well-organized site.
> >
> > I tend to dislike auto-opening links (adds clutter) and
> > javascript links (can't right-button click with mouse).
> >
> > Paul
>
>
> I could do that as well, though I understand some users (such as
> WebTV) have a difficult time with frames, or simply don't like
> them.
>
> I could, however, set it up like my own site (at
> http://www.geocities.com/ravenclawlady ).  By default, it is set
> up in frames, with the table of contents on the left, but it
> also offers the option of no frames.  For those who can't use
> frames (or choose not to), the home page has the same links as
> the TOC, and each page (except those pertaining to HP4GU) has a
> link back to it.
>
> Melanie
>
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From linsenma at hic.net  Thu Aug 31 19:40:09 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 14:40:09 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Questions
References: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINGEJICHAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <39AEB499.C858EABC@hic.net>

Hi --

Simon Branford wrote:

> What are we defining as Magical creatures and animal characters?
>

Heidi may have different thoughts but I would do the following:

Animal Characters (Hedwig, Crookshanks, Pig, Fawkes, Scabbers)

Magical Creatures (Owls in general (cross reference Animal Characters);
phoenixes (cross reference Fawkes in Animal Characters); unicorns;
hippogriffs; werewolves; etc.)

Penny
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From linsenma at hic.net  Thu Aug 31 19:43:25 2000
From: linsenma at hic.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 14:43:25 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Questions
References: <20000830204353.603.qmail@web4801.mail.yahoo.com>
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Hi --

Melanie Moore wrote:

> That looks good to me, and I can easily design it for HTML.  One small
> difference I'd recommend is that the table of contents page be set so
> that the links open a new window (as most Yahoo pages do), rather than
>
> replacing the "table" page in the same one. That way, the table of
> contents page remains easily available, no matter how far someone
> "wanders" from that.  I can quite set that up as well.

That sounds great Melanie -- I think it would be most convenient for the
user if the ToC stayed open so they can find other things easily as they
navigate.

> I was wondering the same thing.  I think we should do the last 500 or so in the Yahoo club.  I suspect a
> good 50% of these deal with Yahoo grousing and the move to eGroups.  I do think, however, that we need to
> determine a cutoff, or we'll *never* finish!   To me, sticking with the messages on the Yahoo club seem
> like a good cutoff.
>
I agree.  I can do 7500-8000 if noone else wants to volunteer.

> I do have another idea about incorporating the eGroups messages.  Instead of assigning groups of messages,
> how about if each of us uses the search function to look for past messages relevant to out subjects, and
> keeps an eye out for future ones?  Thoughts anyone?
>
Yes!  Another great suggestion.  Sounds like Heidi is already doing
this.  Wish I'd been that organized.  <grumble, grumble>

Sounds like we all think Sept 30th is a reasonable goal to shoot for in
any case.

Penny
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From heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu  Thu Aug 31 20:05:23 2000
From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu (Tandy, Heidi)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 16:05:23 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Questions
Message-ID: <1AB004C24D4CD311A19D0008C75F90EF0107A853@FTLEXC1>

Among the other magical creatures, inho, are Kelpies, Redcaps, Gryndelows,
Blast Ended Skrewts (ick!), dragons (including each species in Book IV),
Centuars ("ruddy stargazers"), Agragog & his family (i.e. giant spiders)
and flobberworms.
And are grims real magical creatures or figments of people's imaginations? I
think I'll just include them because they really don't belong anywhere else
 
 
I am having more problems putting the more "human" magical creatures into
this section (although I firmly think the centuars should be) I am not sure
about including House Elves in this group - it feels demeaning to them (this
is me channeling hermione).
And what about the mermaids & mermen - are they magical creatures? What
about Dementors (I know, not really humanesque)
And Goblins, Veela or Lepreuchans?
 
I am leaning towards just doing them all and prefacing the FAQ with a
statement that they're not all the kind of "magical creatures" which would
necessarily be part of a Magical Creatures class.
.
Also, is someone doing an Animagi faq? It woudl be appropriate for me to
link straight to an animagi faq, but I think it's more than can be
incorporated into this section. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer [mailto:linsenma at hic.net] 
 Simon Branford wrote: 

What are we defining as Magical creatures and animal characters? 
 

Heidi may have different thoughts but I would do the following: 

Animal Characters (Hedwig, Crookshanks, Pig, Fawkes, Scabbers) 


Magical Creatures (Owls in general (cross reference Animal Characters);
phoenixes (cross reference Fawkes in Animal Characters); unicorns;
hippogriffs; werewolves; etc.) 


 



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From gypsycaine at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 31 20:12:06 2000
From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 16:12:06 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Questions
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Why not create a new category, called Humanoid?    

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  Among the other magical creatures, inho, are Kelpies, Redcaps, Gryndelows, Blast Ended Skrewts (ick!), dragons (including each species in Book IV), Centuars ("ruddy stargazers"), Agragog & his family (i.e. giant spiders)  and flobberworms.
  And are grims real magical creatures or figments of people's imaginations? I think I'll just include them because they really don't belong anywhere else


  I am having more problems putting the more "human" magical creatures into this section (although I firmly think the centuars should be) I am not sure about including House Elves in this group - it feels demeaning to them (this is me channeling hermione).
  And what about the mermaids & mermen - are they magical creatures? What about Dementors (I know, not really humanesque)
  And Goblins, Veela or Lepreuchans?

  I am leaning towards just doing them all and prefacing the FAQ with a statement that they're not all the kind of "magical creatures" which would necessarily be part of a Magical Creatures class.
  .
  Also, is someone doing an Animagi faq? It woudl be appropriate for me to link straight to an animagi faq, but I think it's more than can be incorporated into this section. 
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer [mailto:linsenma at hic.net] 
     Simon Branford wrote: 
      What are we defining as Magical creatures and animal characters? 
       
    Heidi may have different thoughts but I would do the following: 
    Animal Characters (Hedwig, Crookshanks, Pig, Fawkes, Scabbers) 

    Magical Creatures (Owls in general (cross reference Animal Characters); phoenixes (cross reference Fawkes in Animal Characters); unicorns; hippogriffs; werewolves; etc.) 




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From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Thu Aug 31 21:08:35 2000
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon Branford)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 22:08:35 +0100
Subject: Frames and FAQ's
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Frames?!

Not my most favourite of things but I have done a web site in them! This
means I may even by able to do it again. As mentioned, the important thing
is that there is a frames and non-frames choice.

"Animal Characters (Hedwig, Crookshanks, Pig, Fawkes, Scabbers)"

So I get the characteristics of Scabbers and then pass it on to someone else
to do the much more complicated section on Peter. I like this option. I
guess it means I am doing the ones that could be considered as pets. I had
not noticed that there was a separate Magical Creatures section so thought I
had a large animal section to do!

Simon




From joy0823 at earthlink.net  Thu Aug 31 22:36:29 2000
From: joy0823 at earthlink.net (- Joy -)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 18:36:29 -0400
Subject: Question
Message-ID: <010a01c0139b$eb2987c0$0100000a@joywelan>

My second batch of messages includes a lot of discussion on the sorting hat,
personality tests, and which houses different list members would be in.
I've been including posts that were HP relevant, or included general testing
links, but not those that discussed the personality test results of list
members.  How should I handle this?

~Joy~