[HP4GU-FAQ] Yahoo...& legal sensitivity

[Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer]

Hi:

I can't add all that language to the Founders' Message because there
isn't room.  I'm thinking I could add a sentence referring people to the
Club FAQs page -- need a good way to phrase this one (somewhat short)
sentence so it doesn't scare away prospective members. I also think we
(me and/or Heidi) should post & explain it to our existing members.
I'll take a shot at posting about this subject now, and hopefully Heidi
can join in if the questions go beyond my IP expertise.

Also, Heidi -- can you think of a non-threatening way to put that
concept into one sentence in the Founders' Message?

Melanie -- I can also write up something in our current Q & A format to
add to the general Club FAQs page.

Penny

heidi wrote:

> Yet more lawyerly debate : )
> Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer wrote:
>
>> "Tandy, Heidi" wrote:
>>
>> > Penny - would you like to put something in the "Intro" to the club
>> > section which says "If You Join You Grant The Founders the
>> > royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive and fully
>> > sublicensable right and license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt,
>> > publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute,
>> > perform and display such Content (in whole or part) worldwide
>> > and/or to incorporate it in other works in any form, media, or
>> > technology now known or later developed."
>>
>> I think that's very appropriate.  I'm not entirely sure *where* to
>> put it though.  Wouldn't it legally be most effective if this
>> license language were spelled out right before the person hit
>> "join"?  Also, how do we cover existing members?  I'm not sure
>> putting it in the Club FAQs helps us much from a legal perspective,
>> does it?  I'm not very up on cyberspace law, which is completely
>> developing.  You haven't really put someone on notice that you're
>> taking their thoughts & incorporating them into another forum unless
>> they know this up-front, before they join -- have you?
>
> I've only put people on notice when I've drafted terms of service
> agreements for commercial and noncommercial-but-professional websites
> like The New York Times and http://www.marsmusic.com : )
> It would be best if it was spelled out before people hit JOIN, but as
> a matter of law, given the current industry standard, you could also
> add it into the Founder's Message. Here's what I would add:
>
> "This club is for  grown-ups to discuss the Harry Potter books. Our
> discussions of this wonderful series are in-depth, thought-provoking
> and fun. While there is no age requirement to join  the Club, please
> note that most of our members are adults (18 or older). If you post to
> the Club, you grant the Founders the royalty-free, perpetual,
> irrevocable, non-exclusive and fully sublicensable right and license
> to, for noncommercial purposes,  use, reproduce, modify, adapt,
> publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform
> and display such Content (in whole or part) worldwide and/or to
> incorporate it in other works in any form, media, or technology now
> known or later developed. You've already granted the same license to
> Yahoo, and by granting it to the Founders too, you enable us to
> maintain our FAQ and create a searchable archive of messages."
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