From pennylin at swbell.net  Fri Dec  1 04:03:32 2000
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 22:03:32 -0600
Subject: Website for FAQs & Call to Melanie
Message-ID: <3A272314.B06E84D6@swbell.net>

Hi guys --

Steve Vander Ark has offered to host the FAQs on his Lexicon site if
we're interested.  He says he is being interviewed by some cable
internet channel in January, which could be good publicity for the FAQs
& the HPforGrownups group in general.

I seem to recall that Melanie had some thoughts about where to host the
FAQs, as did Heidi.  Thoughts anyone?

Unfortunately, I haven't made too much more progress with my remaining 3
FAQs since we last discussed it, but .... I *am* planning on buckling
down with them in the next week.  Really!  Honest!

Speaking of Melanie -- we haven't heard much from you lately.  Hoping
everything is okay with you.  :--)

Penny






From sarvalsha at dellnet.com  Fri Dec  1 07:45:45 2000
From: sarvalsha at dellnet.com (Margaret McNie)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:45:45 -0800
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Website for FAQs & Call to Melanie
References: <3A272314.B06E84D6@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <001401c05b6a$b8458a40$4ba21c3f@fxgg10b>

I don't really have an opinion of where to place the FAQs, meaning wherever
the majority of the group decides is o.k. with me. I'm also having problems
getting down to work on the FAQs. Something about Christmas shopping which
I'm normally almost done with by now but because of my vacation I haven't
even started this year. And my mother moving in and having to help her find
an apartment and a car. You know, the normal reason: not enough time in the
day.

I'm also trying to catch up on the messages, something I can do while I'm
waiting for things to run at work. I was feeling pretty good because I was
only about 1,000 messages behind until I realized that meant the messages I
was reading were posted almost a month ago. However, someone did mention
something I had been thinking about: publication of Peg's essays. I know
publication of the FAQs was mentioned earlier and I was wondering if we
couldn't incorporate her essays if she was agreeable. They really are
incredible; if my FAQs come even close to hers in quality, I would be very
happy. Perhaps this is something that has been discussed on the board and I
haven't gotten to the messages yet but I just wanted to broach the subject
while it was fresh in my mind.


Margaret


----- Original Message -----
From: Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer <pennylin at swbell.net>
To: <HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 8:03 PM
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Website for FAQs & Call to Melanie


> Hi guys --
>
> Steve Vander Ark has offered to host the FAQs on his Lexicon site if
> we're interested.  He says he is being interviewed by some cable
> internet channel in January, which could be good publicity for the FAQs
> & the HPforGrownups group in general.
>
> I seem to recall that Melanie had some thoughts about where to host the
> FAQs, as did Heidi.  Thoughts anyone?
>
> Unfortunately, I haven't made too much more progress with my remaining 3
> FAQs since we last discussed it, but .... I *am* planning on buckling
> down with them in the next week.  Really!  Honest!
>
> Speaking of Melanie -- we haven't heard much from you lately.  Hoping
> everything is okay with you.  :--)
>
> Penny
>
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com
>
>
>




From heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu  Fri Dec  1 16:11:33 2000
From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu (heidi tandy)
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 16:11:33 -0000
Subject: Website for FAQs & Call to Melanie
In-Reply-To: <3A272314.B06E84D6@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <908ijl+1rat@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer 
<pennylin at s...> wrote:
> Hi guys --
> 
> Steve Vander Ark has offered to host the FAQs on his Lexicon site if
> we're interested.  He says he is being interviewed by some cable
> internet channel in January, which could be good publicity for the 
FAQs
> & the HPforGrownups group in general.
I love this idea - especially becase of the unity between what we're 
doing & what he's already done - a we do go off on a direction that 
is both more expansive, and somewhat more limited than he has  - does 
this mean the Mysteries section will be a joint work between the 2 of 
you, like you'd mentioned on HP4GU?

> 
> I seem to recall that Melanie had some thoughts about where to host 
the
> FAQs, as did Heidi.  Thoughts anyone?

I think we should have it at our own domain name, instead of at 
something like a geocities subsite - a few months ago, I had 
registered THETHREEBROOMSTICKS.COM, and if this is what steve had in 
mind, we can transfer Technical Contact control of the domain name to 
him, and create an Entrance Page at 
http://www.thethreebroomsticks.com which people can use to jump off 
to his Index's front page, and to the front page for our FAQ. Maybe 
we should ask Starling (is she on hp4gu or just pou?) or one of our 
other Wonderful Artists to create a neat-looking design to go on that 
Entrance Page - and all our pages should have a link on them that you 
can click on to go back to the Entrance Page

> Unfortunately, I haven't made too much more progress with my 
remaining 3
> FAQs since we last discussed it, but .... I *am* planning on 
buckling
> down with them in the next week.  Really!  Honest!
> 

Ditto. I should have time this weekend as Mom is watching Harry, but 
I will definitely be done by January 3, when i come home from my 
holiday break.

But should we try to upload as much as we can now? we've got a lot 
done, and I think people would be happy to see some of it, even if 
it's not complete. Wouldn't it be nice to have this resolved before 
the US' presidential election is? What say you all?





From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Fri Dec  1 16:53:45 2000
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:53:45 -0000
Subject: Progress report
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINAEAOCNAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

Penny wrote: "Unfortunately, I haven't made too much more progress with my
remaining 3 FAQs since we last discussed it, but .... I *am* planning on
buckling down with them in the next week.  Really!  Honest!"

Basically I have made little progress since last time I said anything. My
term finishes today so I may have some spare time soon! Just need to catch
up on some sleep first. 5 hours a night is just not enough for me.

I have printed out the messages concerned with my FAQ's (up until about
E-groups message 6100 - the point I got to when looking through the messages
about a week ago) and will go through these next week while I am at home,
have no / little computer access then as my computer is remaining in Oxford,
and produce notes for writing my FAQ's. I am in Oxford (hence back on my
computer), with little to do, for the week after next. I hope to have them
all finished by the time I go back home on the 17th.

Simon




From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Fri Dec  1 16:54:24 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 16:54:24 +0000
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Website for FAQs & Call to Melanie
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20001201165424.0071ef4c@popmail.dircon.co.uk>

At 16:11 12/01/2000 -0000, Heidi wrote:
>But should we try to upload as much as we can now? we've got a lot 
>done, and I think people would be happy to see some of it, even if 
>it's not complete. Wouldn't it be nice to have this resolved before 
>the US' presidential election is? What say you all?

I agree that we should work with Steve and have a separate domain name.  Is
there any cost involved in maintaining that?  

As for the FAQs, my chads are still being held up to the light by the court
officials, but I should have a few ready, *finally*, in the next few days.
I guess we should start uploading them somewhere to encourage us stragglers
to get them finished...

Neil

            Flying-Ford-Anglia

 *****************************************

   "Then, dented, scratched and steaming, 
   the car rumbled off into the darkness, 
   its rear lights blazing angrily"

 [Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets]

 *****************************************






From heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu  Fri Dec  1 20:29:23 2000
From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu (heidi tandy)
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 20:29:23 -0000
Subject: Website for FAQs & Call to Melanie
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20001201165424.0071ef4c@popmail.dircon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <9091n3+cpb2@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, Neil Ward <neilward at d...> wrote:
> At 16:11 12/01/2000 -0000, Heidi wrote:
> >But should we try to upload as much as we can now? we've got a lot 
> >done, and I think people would be happy to see some of it, even if 
> >it's not complete. Wouldn't it be nice to have this resolved 
before 
> >the US' presidential election is? What say you all?
> 
> I agree that we should work with Steve and have a separate domain 
name.  Is
> there any cost involved in maintaining that?  
> 
With maintaining the registrations, no - I donated the cost of the 
$14 in registration fees to The Cause, out of the goodness of my 
heart. At some point, maybe we'll raise some fees to cover next 
year's costs, but we havre until July to worry about it.
Penny - what is steve's input on the costs we'd have to bear for 
space on his server? Are there any? Can he host our domain name?




From pennylin at swbell.net  Fri Dec  1 21:17:04 2000
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 15:17:04 -0600
Subject: Website for FAQs
References: <9091n3+cpb2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3A281550.5D323870@swbell.net>

Hi --

I think it sounds as though the group would like to go ahead & upload
some of the completed FAQs as soon as we can.  I agree as I think that
could be a good motivator for many of us to go ahead & finish up.   Here
are my questions & thoughts:

1.  We need to create an overall organization for the FAQs -- a logical
"Table of Contents" or launch page or what have you.  I'm willing to
take a shot at that, unless someone else has more time &/or has an idea
in mind for what it might look like.  I assume we can then just leave
the links "inactive" for the uncompleted FAQs?

2.  We seem to have lost our HTML person (Melanie).  Has anyone heard
from her?  I know she said she was going to have a busy workschedule in
Sept/Oct, but then we really haven't heard *anything* in so long that
I'm not sure if she's abandoned us or not.  <g>  If she doesn't indeed
surface soon, does anyone else have the technical expertise to take over
this aspect of it?  I do not.

3.  I would like to edit them all for grammar, spelling, typos & the
like before they get HTML'd.  Once we have a plan for #1 & #2 above,
I'll press forward with doing that.  Although, I guess everyone should
indicate to me which FAQs that have been uploaded are ready for me to
edit & which ones you still want to make additions to.

4.  Does anyone know (or can anyone figure out) how we might best go
about editing the uploaded FAQs in the future?  It's not an immediate
problem, but I was just curious.  For example, the wand order mystery.
"Solved" in recent weeks it would appear.  If I needed to go into the
Mysteries FAQ & add a blurb about the "new" printings of GoF & what
Bloomsbury wrote to Neil (AND I don't know anything about HTML), how
hard (or easy) is it for me to maintain that FAQ?

heidi tandy wrote:

> With maintaining the registrations, no - I donated the cost of the
> $14 in registration fees to The Cause, out of the goodness of my
> heart. At some point, maybe we'll raise some fees to cover next
> year's costs, but we havre until July to worry about it.
> Penny - what is steve's input on the costs we'd have to bear for
> space on his server? Are there any? Can he host our domain name?

Uh .... I don't know.  I will ask.  I'll cc: you on that email to him
Heidi as this business is all a bit Greek to me I'm afraid.  I'm not
entirely clear what you mean by him hosting our domain name, but I will
pose the question.  <g>

Penny
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From kippesp at swbell.net  Sun Dec  3 18:22:55 2000
From: kippesp at swbell.net (Paul Kippes)
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 12:22:55 -0600
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Website for FAQs
In-Reply-To: <3A281550.5D323870@swbell.net>
References: <9091n3+cpb2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20001203121721.02cde170@postoffice.swbell.net>

At 03:17 PM 12/1/2000, Penny wrote:
>2.  We seem to have lost our HTML person (Melanie).  Has anyone heard from 
>her?  I know she said she was going to have a busy workschedule in 
>Sept/Oct, but then we really haven't heard *anything* in so long that I'm 
>not sure if she's abandoned us or not.  <g>  If she doesn't indeed surface 
>soon, does anyone else have the technical expertise to take over this 
>aspect of it?  I do not.

With my classes finishing this week, I'll have tons of time to help out in 
this area.  I can definitely help out with getting the FAQs into an HTML 
format.

>4.  Does anyone know (or can anyone figure out) how we might best go about 
>editing the uploaded FAQs in the future?  It's not an immediate problem, 
>but I was just curious.  For example, the wand order mystery.  "Solved" in 
>recent weeks it would appear.  If I needed to go into the Mysteries FAQ & 
>add a blurb about the "new" printings of GoF & what Bloomsbury wrote to 
>Neil (AND I don't know anything about HTML), how hard (or easy) is it for 
>me to maintain that FAQ?

If I end up doing the FAQ to HTML conversion, I make efforts into 
simplifying the conversion method.  Using Steve's server may also assist in 
this if they are, in fact, hosted on his site.

Paul (absent, but not gone)





From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Thu Dec 14 20:59:59 2000
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:59:59 -0000
Subject: FAQ update
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINGEMCCNAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

Thought I better make some comment about how things are going, or more
precisely not really going!

Going through the messages about Harry has been a bit of a nightmare. I have
got through about half of them, but it is proving difficult and very very
slow work.

I am returning home tomorrow and will take the rest of the printed message
with me to look through in the next three weeks. Hopefully I will then be
able, on my return, to spend a day typing up all of my FAQ's.

I have finished the notes for all the other FAQ's (up to about 500 messages
ago and have gone through, but not taken notes from, the next 300 messages -
the group has got very active again).

I hope to shoot for mid January - but as has proved the case before now -
this may just be wishful thinking.


Simon




From HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com  Fri Dec 29 15:20:23 2000
From: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com (HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com)
Date: 29 Dec 2000 15:20:23 -0000
Subject: New file uploaded to HP4GU-FAQ 
Message-ID: <978103223.25136@egroups.com>


Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the HP4GU-FAQ 
group.

  File        : /FAQs -- Table of Contents.htm 
  Uploaded by : pennylin at swbell.net 
  Description :  

You can access this file at the URL

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To learn more about eGroups file sharing, please visit

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Regards,

pennylin at swbell.net
 






From pennylin at swbell.net  Fri Dec 29 15:39:57 2000
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 09:39:57 -0600
Subject: Update
Message-ID: <3A4CB04D.F826296B@swbell.net>

Hi --

I trust you're all working diligently on your FAQs, yes?  I'm now
turning more to mine, having only had sporadic time to work on them
since mid-November.  I'm anxious to knock mine out in relatively short
order for obvious reasons.  <g>

I just uploaded a draft "Table of Contents" to give our FAQs some
structure.  Please take a look at it & give suggestions for
improvement.  As you'll see, I couldn't think of an appropriate title
for the section that includes the audio versions, movie, fanfiction,
merchandise, etc.  Hopefully, one of you will be able to come up with
something snappy & appropriate.

Heidi -- do we need to make any sort of trademark notation where I've
italicized "Harry Potter"?

Thanks to Paul for volunteering earlier to step in as the HTML'er for
the FAQs.  I do believe we may have lost Melanie.  I haven't heard a
word from her in months now.  Unfortunately, her absence raises an even
bigger issue perhaps than who will HTML all this stuff.  She had
volunteered to author 7 of the FAQs, and she didn't upload drafts of any
of them before disappearing.  Unfortunate since it's possible she did do
some work on them that could be used by us in finishing them up.  So
.... here are the ones that she's down for - any takers?

Audio Versions (short & easy folks)
Chronology & Timeline
Clothing (Wizarding World)
Fan Clubs (again, short & easy)
Houses of Hogwarts
Predictions: GoF (this is really just a summary & ought not to be too
difficult -- no new messages)
Similarities between Voldemort & the Potters

This is not as heinous as if one of us suddenly had to start from
scratch with say Neil's FAQs (which are pretty meaty).  Since I'm doing
Hogwarts, I will take on the Houses of Hogwarts one as well.

I would like to start the process of uploading what we can, as soon as
we can.  I think the response we'll get from the group could serve as a
good motivator to go ahead & finish up.  As you finish putting finishing
touches on your FAQs, please let me know that you've uploaded what you
consider to be a final version.  If you've uploaded a FAQ to the FAQs
folder already & you're happy with it right now, just let me know & I'll
add it to my "to be proofed" list.  I'm going to polish off the ones
I've uploaded before continuing on with the ones in progress.  Once I
edit each of the ones we're happy with, I'll let Paul know to go ahead &
HTML that particular FAQ.

Paul -- Heidi & I have had some discussions with Steve of Lexicon fame
re: where to host the FAQs.  As I recall, we haven't reached any
conclusion.  But, Heidi may have had further conversations with him
since I last heard -- any news on that front, Heidi?

Oh -- if you need a reminder of which FAQs you're authoring, check the
Master List of FAQs in the Database section

http://www.egroups.com/database/HP4GU-FAQ

Thanks everyone!!!

Penny




From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Fri Dec 29 18:46:40 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 18:46:40 -0000
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Update
References: <3A4CB04D.F826296B@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <003d01c071c7$c4f51300$5d3770c2@c5s910j>

Penny said:

> I trust you're all working diligently on your FAQs, yes?  I'm now
> turning more to mine, having only had sporadic time to work on them
> since mid-November.  I'm anxious to knock mine out in relatively short
> order for obvious reasons.  <g>

I had  to stop saying "I've nearly finished" because then something would
prevent that happening and I looked like a liar.  I also realise that I
haven't uploaded any drafts yet.  However, I *am* still working on the
FAQs - currently a little more bogged down with Ron Weasley than I had
anticipated.   I'll keep you posted...

> I just uploaded a draft "Table of Contents" to give our FAQs some
> structure.  Please take a look at it & give suggestions for
> improvement.  As you'll see, I couldn't think of an appropriate title
> for the section that includes the audio versions, movie, fanfiction,
> merchandise, etc.  Hopefully, one of you will be able to come up with
> something snappy & appropriate.

It looks good, Penny.  How about "Potter-Related Media, Arts and Activities"
for the  missing heading?

> This is not as heinous as if one of us suddenly had to start from
> scratch with say Neil's FAQs (which are pretty meaty).  Since I'm doing
> Hogwarts, I will take on the Houses of Hogwarts one as well.

I don't really want to take on any more FAQs at this stage or I'll never get
my meaty chunks on the table, so to speak.  Have we really lost Melanie?  I
hope she's okay.

Neil
_____________________________________

Flying-Ford-Anglia

"Ron, full of turkey and cake and with nothing
mysterious to bother him, fell asleep almost
as soon as he'd drawn the curtains of his
four-poster."

[Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone]







From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Fri Dec 29 18:57:15 2000
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon Branford)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 19:57:15 +0100
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Update
Message-ID: <E14C5eN-0008JD-00@wing6.herald.ox.ac.uk>

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From pennylin at swbell.net  Sat Dec 30 01:28:00 2000
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 19:28:00 -0600
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Update
References: <E14C5eN-0008JD-00@wing6.herald.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <3A4D3A20.FB101F87@swbell.net>

Hi --

Me again.  Oops -- there was more to be answered in Simon's message --

Simon Branford wrote:

> Also do we want someone to take a copy of the FAQ (welcome message to
> the group), that Melanie hosts on her website, and the GoF schedule
> and host them elsewhere, so they can be updated as needed?

I think we're going to need to do this.  Um .... Heidi?  Paul?  Any
ideas how to go about this??  Help!

Thanks --

Penny

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From pennylin at swbell.net  Sat Dec 30 01:26:43 2000
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 19:26:43 -0600
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Update
References: <3A4CB04D.F826296B@swbell.net> <003d01c071c7$c4f51300$5d3770c2@c5s910j>
Message-ID: <3A4D39D2.F159EF2D@swbell.net>

Hello again --

Neil Ward wrote:

> It looks good, Penny.  How about "Potter-Related Media, Arts and
> Activities" for the  missing heading?

Sounds good to me.  Any other suggestions?

> I don't really want to take on any more FAQs at this stage or I'll
> never get my meaty chunks on the table, so to speak.

I fully understand that!  <g>

> Have we really lost Melanie?  I hope she's okay.

Yeah, I tried forwarding my message this morning directly to her 2 email
addresses.  The yahoo address bounced back, indicating that her box was
full.  I also hope she's okay ....doesn't sound too good that she's let
her box get full-to-bursting.

Simon wrote:

> What are the possibilities on asking a couple of the other members if they
> would be happy to work on a FAQ each? It might be an option for ones such
> as Audio versions if we can find someone who has listened to all of them,
> or the predictions where they only have to go through a limited number of
> messages and then comment yes/no!
>
That's a good idea.  I'll see what everyone else responds with and then
we'll go from there.  I'll also keep my fingers crossed that we hear
from Melanie.  :--)

Penny
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