From kippesp at swbell.net  Fri Nov  3 07:00:34 2000
From: kippesp at swbell.net (smitster )
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 07:00:34 -0000
Subject: Good jobs
Message-ID: <8ttnqi+f78o@eGroups.com>

I've read through Penny's Relationships FAQ draft.  Good reading.

We should have been having someone keeping track of all the questions 
that JKR dodges and the answers she dodges them with.  Perhaps I'll 
aim to save off all of the audio interviews for a time I might do 
this.  

Anyway, I thought I posted this Q/A up in a post a long time ago, but 
must have just ment to.  I remembered it after reading Penny's Harry 
& Hermione section.

>From October 1999 National Book Club Interview:

Q: Do Harry and Hermione have a date?

A: No.  They are very platonic friends.  But I won't answer for 
anyone else.  Nudge.  Nudge.  Wink.  Wink.

Of course being the author, she has full power to change her mind.

Paul





From pennylin at swbell.net  Fri Nov  3 14:33:47 2000
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 08:33:47 -0600
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Good jobs
References: <8ttnqi+f78o@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3A02CCCB.80D663EF@swbell.net>

Hi --

smitster wrote:

> I've read through Penny's Relationships FAQ draft.  Good reading.
>
> We should have been having someone keeping track of all the questions
> that JKR dodges and the answers she dodges them with.  Perhaps I'll
> aim to save off all of the audio interviews for a time I might do
> this.

That would be great.

> Anyway, I thought I posted this Q/A up in a post a long time ago, but
> must have just ment to.  I remembered it after reading Penny's Harry
> & Hermione section.
>
> >From October 1999 National Book Club Interview:
>
> Q: Do Harry and Hermione have a date?
>
> A: No.  They are very platonic friends.  But I won't answer for
> anyone else.  Nudge.  Nudge.  Wink.  Wink.
>
> Of course being the author, she has full power to change her mind.

Well, not seeing the context of this, I can't say for sure BUT my guess
would be (Oct 1999 was after PoA but before GoF) that she was referring
to GoF specifically.  She did say in another interview that I saw that
Harry would date neither Hermione nor Ginny in GoF but that he was only
14 & had plenty of time to change his mind.  She answered all sorts of
interview questions about *who* he would date in GoF as you may recall
-- once she let it out of the bag that he & the others would discover
the opposite sex, it became a favorite pre-GoF interview question.  And,
of course, her answers led all of us to conclude that it would be Cho.
And, yes . . . Cho was his first crush but it remains to be seen whether
they'll actually date.

In any case, I guess most H/H fans are resigned to Ron & Hermione dating
in the canon -- most of us just don't think it will last.  <g>

Paul -- if you'll send me a link to the full text of that interview
though, I'll be happy to update that FAQ as needed.  Is there more to it
than that?  I assume the whole interview was concerned with GoF but
maybe I'm off-base in that assumption.

Penny
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From sarvalsha at dellnet.com  Thu Nov  9 08:13:46 2000
From: sarvalsha at dellnet.com (Margaret McNie)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 00:13:46 -0800
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Back to work - finally!
References: <8ttnqi+f78o@eGroups.com> <3A02CCCB.80D663EF@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <002501c04a24$fcc7bb40$28c11a3f@fxgg10b>

Hello everyone,

You all probably thought I'd disappeared off the face of the earth. But it was just a 2 1/2 week vacation. The rest of the time has just been spent waiting for my body to be reunited with my brain cells. I think that is beginning to happen now. That jet lag has quite a kick.

I had an almost Potter-free vacation . . . unless that apparition in the castle tower was one of the Hogwarts ghosts. Luckily I wasn't one of the people who saw it . . . and I only heard about the fresh scratches that appeared on a stone slab overnight; I didn't actually investigate them. What you don't know or think about can't hurt you, right?

I would like to thank Neil for the wonderful weather he supplied while we were in London. Can't say the same for Scotland. But hey it was October in Scotland and we were all prepared for it. And we did develop that 'only one door of the minivan could be open at a time' rule which helped prevent the doors, people, and/or vehicle from disappearing into the gale force winds.

Now that I'm home, it is time to go back to work and I just wanted to let you know that I'm back on the job for Lupin and Dumbledore. I began writing the FAQ on Lupin today. I remember there being talk about a stopping point for the messages with the rest being part of the maintenance. Was there ever an agreed upon spot to stop or is everyone just doing their own thing?


Glad to be home,
Margaret
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From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Fri Nov 10 14:01:38 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Flying Ford Anglia)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:01:38 -0000
Subject: Back to work - finally!
In-Reply-To: <002501c04a24$fcc7bb40$28c11a3f@fxgg10b>
Message-ID: <8ugv42+i5n4@eGroups.com>

Margaret wrote:

>>>> I would like to thank Neil for the wonderful weather he supplied 
while we were in London. Can't say the same for Scotland. But hey it 
was October in Scotland and we were all prepared for it. And we did 
develop that 'only one door of the minivan could be open at a time' 
rule which helped prevent the doors, people, and/or vehicle from 
disappearing into the gale force winds.<<<<<

Welcome back, Margaret.  I thought I had the weather sorted, but my 
evil cousin, Flying Mercedes Benz, unleashed a Climaticus Calamitus 
spell on the British Isles and we've since been beset by rainstorms, 
gales and tornadoes, leaving parts of the country flood-bound.

I bet you're glad you left all that behind...

Neil






From pennylin at swbell.net  Wed Nov 15 22:26:23 2000
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:26:23 -0600
Subject: Calling Updates
References: <8ttnqi+f78o@eGroups.com> <3A02CCCB.80D663EF@swbell.net> <002501c04a24$fcc7bb40$28c11a3f@fxgg10b>
Message-ID: <3A130D8F.600D4AE9@swbell.net>

Hi --

Margaret McNie wrote:

> Now that I'm home, it is time to go back to work and I just wanted to
> let you know that I'm back on the job for Lupin and Dumbledore. I
> began writing the FAQ on Lupin today. I remember there being talk
> about a stopping point for the messages with the rest being part of
> the maintenance. Was there ever an agreed upon spot to stop or is
> everyone just doing their own thing?

I don't think we ever came up with an agreed cut-off point.  I'm taking
mine out pretty much current.  I'm just using the egroups search
feature, which is working reasonably well.  It is hard to figure out how
to search out the relevant messages most efficiently.  I found with
Hermione that I must just go through all thousands of them in order to
figure out what is relevant for the character sketch.  Couldn't think of
any other way to search it out.  I can usually write it off as
irrelevant or not in less than 10 seconds so . . .

Speaking of the FAQs gang, I was hoping we could get an update from
everyone.  Where you're at, when you think you might be done
(realistically), etc.

So, in the spirit of updates --

1.  JKR -- done & up to-date
2.  Potential Romantic Pairings -- done & only in need of a minor
addition or 2.  Revised in 30 minutes or less.
3.  Fanfic -- Largely done.  I have some fanfic recommendations &
summaries forwarded by Ebony that need to get worked in, but this is 30
minutes or less sort of revision work.
4.  Adult v. Children's Lit -- Done & up-to-date.
5.  Religion & HP -- Done & up-to-date
6.  Wizarding World -- Govt -- done & up-to-date


7.  Hermione -- have gone through 75% of the messages; have gone through
SS & CoS for quotes, descriptions, thoughts.  Still need to finish going
through messages & going through PoA & GoF.  Then, I must write it up
into a coherent whole.  :--)  Estimated time to complete: several days
of sporadic work.  Can complete by mid-December.

8.  Hogwarts -- have gone through SS & CoS.  Need to go through the
messages (all) & PoA & GoF.  Estimated time to complete: can also
complete by mid-December possibly.

9.  Mysteries & Inconsistencies -- no work done at this point.  Will
shoot for being done by Christmas.

Believe me, I fully understand that this project has taken longer than
any of us expected, but could we get some general updates from
everyone?  :--)  Thanks.

We also especially need to hear from Melanie regarding her timeframe for
getting everything changed over to HTML & uploaded to a website.  If we
have all or most all of the FAQs finished by January 1st, how much time
will it take you to get them uploaded to the web Melanie?

The other monkey wrench: I will plan on summarizing that last little
grouping of Yahoo messages that Anna didn't do (it was toward the very
end of our Yahoo existence & may not contain much of substance since I
think many of the messages were complaints about Yahoo).  I will try to
get this done in the next few weeks unless someone else wants to
volunteer to do it.  I can't remember the #s off the top of my head but
can find them easily enough if anyone's interested.

Glad to hear that Margaret had a great visit to the UK.  :--)

Penny
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From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Wed Nov 15 23:51:57 2000
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon J. Branford)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 23:51:57 -0000
Subject: FAQ's
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINIEGCCMAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

Hello all;

Penny wrote: "I'm just using the egroups search feature, which is working
reasonably well.  It is hard to figure out how to search out the relevant
messages most efficiently.  I found with Hermione that I must just go
through all thousands of them in order to figure out what is relevant for
the character sketch.  Couldn't think of any other way to search it out.  I
can usually write it off as irrelevant or not in less than 10 seconds so . .
."

I have found it easier to just read every message. I find it annoying to try
and use the search feature - especially on the Voldemort FAQ where his name
is commonly mis-spelt. At the moment I am going through the messages and
finding those on Harry. I then copy these into a document (very long in some
cases) and then print this and work from there.

I find it very difficult to work straight onto the computer and much prefer
to work with the 'old fashioned' pen and paper. Consequently I also find I
can work away from my computer - which is useful as I get terrible migraines
if I am in front of the screen for too long!

Penny wrote: "So, in the spirit of updates -"
So here I go:

Weasley family - FAQ covers up to message 3500 on E-groups
Wands - FAQ covers up to message 3500 on E-groups
Animal Chars - FAQ covers up to message 3500 on E-groups

Dursley family - Have notes ready to be typed up to message 3500 on E-groups
Voldemort - Have notes ready to be typed up to message 3500 on E-groups

The above 5 have little else to be done to them after I have typed up the
notes. I will then make them up to date, which should not take too long.


Predictions for books 5, 6 & 7 - I am finding this very hard. It is done up
to message 3500 on E-groups but I am unsure what should and should not be
included.


Harry - started going through the messages a week ago - 40% of the way
through. On current rate of progress I hope to have finished going through
the messages in the next two weeks. Heading for a before Christmas finish on
the FAQ.


As I am not doing the character summaries for any of the characters I am
doing FAQ's on I cannot really justify the time for going through the books
and basing some of the FAQ on information in them (unless I can have about
another 6 months of time to work on them). I intend to use the messages as a
framework and only refer to the book in instances when the books answer the
question / debate raised.


The major problem I have at the moment is that either I will have no
computer access, or will be back to paying large sums of money for my access
from 2nd December (end of term). I have yet to hear back from my
accommodation people as to whether I can stay up for some of the vacation or
not (I have quite a few reasons for wishing to stay in Oxford for a bit
longer - academic work being a major one) - if I am able to stay for some of
the vacation then I will have plenty of opportunity to finish them at the
beginning of December. If not then I will upload what I have done before I
go home and then finish off in January.


Simon




From heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu  Thu Nov 16 01:08:30 2000
From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu (heidi)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 20:08:30 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Calling Updates
References: <8ttnqi+f78o@eGroups.com> <3A02CCCB.80D663EF@swbell.net> <002501c04a24$fcc7bb40$28c11a3f@fxgg10b> <3A130D8F.600D4AE9@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <3A13338E.71075C20@alumni.upenn.edu>

In the spirit of updates:

Geography - done (may need an update, but it can get uploaded without
it)
Potters - updated as of JKR's chats, nothing new & interesting enough
has come down the pike since then, so it should be uploaded as is
Lawsuit - done - nothing new has happened, so we'll leave it as it
Bookbanning - I don't want to update it until we're about to upload them
because the only thing that needs changing is the fact that Muggles for
Harry Potter is changing their name but since they're doing it soon, if
we don't upload it before they do then there's no reason for me to
change it twice, when once will do.
Magical creatures -working on it - It was about 90% done, then I emailed
it to myself on my last day at my old job and it DISAPEARED into the
ether (EW) so I had to start all over.
Malfoy FAQ - see Magical Creatures - same damned thing happened.
Character names, meanings & pronunciations - Almost done
Merchandise - current through October; needs an update, which will be
the last thing I update to make it completely current with whatever is
on the market when we upload these.




From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Thu Nov 16 01:35:32 2000
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Flying Ford Anglia)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 01:35:32 -0000
Subject: Calling Updates
In-Reply-To: <3A130D8F.600D4AE9@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <8uvdl4+fdd5@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer 
> Speaking of the FAQs gang, I was hoping we could get an update from
> everyone.  Where you're at, when you think you might be done
> (realistically), etc.

Okay.... 

I've gone through all the old Yahoo messages (except for Wizarding 
World: General) and have sorted the relevant eGroups messages into 
files for each FAQ (I get the posts by e-mail).  

I'm planning to put a link to Steve's Lexicon in most of the FAQs. 
Mike Goat offered to proof-read my FAQs (when I've actually finished 
any of them!).

The e-mailed eGroups messages don't include the message board #, so I 
am referring to thread names and dates at the moment.  Will probably 
have to identify the # of the start of each thread as a better 
reference.

****Here is the status on the FAQs themselves:

**McGonagall - the FAQ is nearly done (how many times have I said 
that?); checking some "women in HP" threads for additional material.  

**Quidditch - I need to check the eGroups stuff for additional 
material, but the FAQ is pretty much there.  Ebony may still want to 
look at it as previously agreed unless she's off the scene completely 
until next year.

**Spells and Charms - I have all the messages sorted and I'm
currently 
sectioning into sub-files for Priori Incantatem, Imperius curse, etc. 
 Trying to avoid duplicating Mysteries & Inconsistencies here and 
so concentrating on the spells etc themselves.

**Magical Devices - looking through eGroups stuff and have separate 
files now for things like Marauder's Map, Mirror of Erised.  There
are 
quite a few 'devices' that we haven't really discussed, so there's
not 
too much.  Note on Mysteries/Inconsistencies, above, applies here too.

**Character Accents - I'm part way through writing the FAQ.  I'll 
probably complete it as planned, but I had noted Penny's suggestion,
a 
while back, that people incorporate into character summaries.

**Ron Weasley - finished going through Yahoo messages, and now
looking 
at a couple of recent 'Ron' threads before writing it up.  

**Casting/Movie - I've started writing notes on the real film cast 
members and I've been through most of the Yahoo 'casting suggestions' 
messages (I got really bored during that little task).  I need to 
write up the more detailed discussions we've had on the 
film/cast/director and look at the movie locations stuff.  I'm also 
thinking of including something about actor accents here (there was a 
lot of stuff about English vs American actors, for example).  Jim
will 
be proof-reading the finished item.

**Mysteries/Inconsistencies CoS - Still identifying content.  Will 
then discuss with you Penny.

**Snape.  I have all the messages grouped, but I'm not much further
at 
present.  I have the Yahoo stuff under headings like "Snape and the 
DADA job", "Snape loved Lily", "Snape's task" but some of the 
categories overlap, obviously.  I have a huge directory of 
Snape-related discussion from eGroups, but there seems to be a lot of 
repetition, so it's a matter of distilling it all into something 
readable.

**Wizarding World: general.  Still assessing what needs to go in
here. 
  Stuff on magic vs muggle world; general concepts.

Summary:  The first two on my list above should be done by this 
weekend and the first six by end of November.  

For different reasons, 'Casting/Movie' and 'Snape' are a bit more 
involved than the others, so I'll spend more time on those in early 
December.  

With the 'Wizarding World' and 'CoS' it's more a question of deciding 
what goes into them - I don't think there will be too much in either 
of them, so I'll aim to finish those by third week of December.

Neil




From lrcjestes at msn.com  Thu Nov 16 03:33:34 2000
From: lrcjestes at msn.com (lrcjestes)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:33:34 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Calling Updates
References: <8uvdl4+fdd5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <006001c04f7e$00d979e0$03230f3f@oemcomputer>



> --- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer
> > Speaking of the FAQs gang, I was hoping we could get an update from
> > everyone.  Where you're at, when you think you might be done
> > (realistically), etc.
>


Ok I'm the slacker of this group.  I've been spending way too much time
writing ASA and next to nothing on the FAQ's.  I only have 3 to do and they
really are the easiest ones.

Sirius:  I have gone through the messages and have summarized the threads,
and taken quotes and descriptions from the books. I need to sit down and
make something coherent out of all of this.


Hagrid:  Haven't done anything on him.  I know a lot of the discussion on
Hagrid is about his accent and what it is exactly, so Neil if you want to
send me the info you have on Hagrids accent, I will incorporate it into his
FAQ...along with the discussion on his umbrella.


Humor:  I was just going to list the appropriate messages where particularly
funny posts are located and add the funny song lyrics to the files section,
which has been done by others.  There have been some hilarious stuff posted
lately, so I'll have to update my message list.

I can foresee a break in ASA for me as chapter 12 is more up Penny's alley,
plus I need to back off gobbling up all the good scenes to write and be more
patient with the story...so I can foresee that I could have all 3 of my
FAQ's done by the end of November.  I promise to make an effort,
particularly on the Sirius one.  My problem with that is in not going
overboard....

hope that helps Penny...

carole






From sarvalsha at dellnet.com  Thu Nov 16 07:21:23 2000
From: sarvalsha at dellnet.com (Margaret McNie)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 23:21:23 -0800
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Calling Updates
References: <8uvdl4+fdd5@eGroups.com> <006001c04f7e$00d979e0$03230f3f@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <004501c04f9d$d3e601e0$90a11c3f@fxgg10b>

Oh no Carole. I'm the slacker. Vacation didn't help much either.

Lupin: I have written about half the character essay (I'm also doing Lupin
in the chapter discussions), gone through the yahoo messages and started
putting them together. I've just started going through the egroups messages.

Dumbledore: I have only just begun (wasn't that a song title).

Time will be at a premium from now until Christmas but I am working on them
a little every day. And the company I work at shuts down between Christmas
and New Years so I will have that time (unless we get called in because the
systems implementations which are supposed to happen Thanksgiving weekend
don't).  So I am shooting for the middle of December for Lupin and the end
of December for Dumbledore.

Margaret

P.S. By the way Heidi, I really liked your Potter FAQ. I read it to get some
ideas for organizing mine.


----- Original Message -----
From: lrcjestes <lrcjestes at msn.com>
To: <HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Calling Updates


>
>
> > --- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer
> > > Speaking of the FAQs gang, I was hoping we could get an update from
> > > everyone.  Where you're at, when you think you might be done
> > > (realistically), etc.
> >
>
>
> Ok I'm the slacker of this group.  I've been spending way too much time
> writing ASA and next to nothing on the FAQ's.  I only have 3 to do and
they
> really are the easiest ones.
>
> Sirius:  I have gone through the messages and have summarized the threads,
> and taken quotes and descriptions from the books. I need to sit down and
> make something coherent out of all of this.
>
>
> Hagrid:  Haven't done anything on him.  I know a lot of the discussion on
> Hagrid is about his accent and what it is exactly, so Neil if you want to
> send me the info you have on Hagrids accent, I will incorporate it into
his
> FAQ...along with the discussion on his umbrella.
>
>
> Humor:  I was just going to list the appropriate messages where
particularly
> funny posts are located and add the funny song lyrics to the files
section,
> which has been done by others.  There have been some hilarious stuff
posted
> lately, so I'll have to update my message list.
>
> I can foresee a break in ASA for me as chapter 12 is more up Penny's
alley,
> plus I need to back off gobbling up all the good scenes to write and be
more
> patient with the story...so I can foresee that I could have all 3 of my
> FAQ's done by the end of November.  I promise to make an effort,
> particularly on the Sirius one.  My problem with that is in not going
> overboard....
>
> hope that helps Penny...
>
> carole
>
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com
>
>
>




From pennylin at swbell.net  Sat Nov 18 14:52:58 2000
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 08:52:58 -0600
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Melanie & Ebony -- Are you out There??
References: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINIEGCCMAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <3A1697CA.23039CB8@swbell.net>

Hi --

Thanks for the updates everyone.  We haven't heard from Melanie or
Ebony.  I guess I'll email each of them personally & see if maybe they
just haven't been checking the messages for this group in the last few
weeks.  It sounds as though everyone is making progress .... so full
steam ahead.  :--)

I'm taking my stuff to my parents home for a Thanksgiving holiday visit
next week.  I'm hoping to finish up Hermione while I'm there & make some
progress on Hogwarts perhaps.

Penny





From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Sat Nov 18 15:01:14 2000
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 15:01:14 -0000
Subject: Thanksgiving / Christmas
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINOEHNCMAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

Penny wrote: "I'm taking my stuff to my parents home for a Thanksgiving
holiday visit next week.  I'm hoping to finish up Hermione while I'm there &
make some progress on Hogwarts perhaps."

This assumed me slightly. Penny is talking about Thanksgiving and I am
involved with the arrangement for a Christmas dinner with friends (Tuesday
28th) and thinking about which of the Church and Chapel Carol services to
attend next weekend. Yes that is right - I will go to my main Carol service
of the year nearly a full month before Christmas - University can be so odd
at times!


I have finally finished going through the Yahoo messages, so now just need
to go through the E-groups messages and then write the Harry FAQ. It seems,
at last, as if I am getting somewhere near finishing!

Simon (who is meant to be working on his maths problem sheets for the week
but is instead e-mailing and reading)




From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Thu Nov 23 15:42:00 2000
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 15:42:00 -0000
Subject: FW: This is only a test
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINCELFCMAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

Sorry folks there is nothing important in this messages.

It is a test - my account is playing up and I was trying to find where the
problem is!

Simon




From hert0661 at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Nov 23 17:05:34 2000
From: hert0661 at yahoo.co.uk (Simon)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 17:05:34 -0000
Subject: Another annoying test
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINMELHCMAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

Sorry - my e-mail or e-groups is being stupid and I am trying to work out
which it is!

--
Simon Branford, Hertford College, Catte Street, Oxford, OX1 3BW
Phone (Virgin Mobile): 07941552932
E-mail: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk