From HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com  Sat Feb  3 18:42:31 2001
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Date: 3 Feb 2001 18:42:31 -0000
Subject: New file uploaded to HP4GU-FAQ 
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From pennylin at swbell.net  Sat Feb  3 18:51:10 2001
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 12:51:10 -0600
Subject: Mysteries FAQ: Questions & Favors
Message-ID: <3A7C531E.B149F17B@swbell.net>

Hi --

I just uploaded the Mysteries & Inconsistencies FAQ.

Questions:

1.  As you'll see, I did a section on Mysteries that were specific to
each book, Inconsistencies specific to each book and then Mysteries:
Overall Series & Inconsistencies: Overall Series.  Any problems with
this organization?

2.  Does anyone spot anything that I've inadvertently left out?  I tried
to find everything we've talked about.  Fortunately, I had been printing
out some of the big compilations of Mysteries (from Joywitch & Jim
Flanagan & others).  These were a good start.

Favors:

1.  The Mysteries: GoF section -- I *cannot* get the automatic numbering
in Word to function correctly under this section.  "1.  Portkey & the
Triwizard Tournament" will not line up with the others, and hence, all
the numbering thereafter is messed up (it skips "2" altogether).  Is
anyone a Word wizard who could fix this little glitch for me?  I've
tried everything I know.  I think I ended up deciding that the Portkey
business was probably the most important Mystery of GoF and so I moved
it.  That was a fatal error apparently.  <g>

2.  Could everyone please read this one carefully and give me comments?
This is the one FAQ (hard-copy) I'd like to mail off to Scholastic,
Bloomsbury & JKR.  I thought my cover letter could explain what we're
doing, give the URL where the other FAQs can be found (including a Table
of Contents of what we expect they will cover) and give them this one as
an example of what we're doing.  It seems to me that maybe they could
use this anyway!  <vbg>

Thanks --

Penny






From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Sat Feb  3 23:09:19 2001
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:09:19 -0000
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Mysteries FAQ: Questions & Favors
In-Reply-To: <3A7C531E.B149F17B@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINAEGEDCAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

Snape & Marauders map under CoS section.


>From FAQ: "Another theory holds that perhaps the Marauders are only visible
to each other.  In other words, Pettigrew wasn't "seen" on the Map until
fellow-Marauder Lupin studied it."
- Not bothering to take this argument on list but it cannot be true. Snape
sees Lupin on the map, alerting him to where everyone is.


Crookshanks
- Link to that ling section I have written in animal characters FAQ?


>From FAQ: "In Chapter 1, Voldemort tells Wormtail that they must only kill
one more person and then the path to Harry Potter is clear."
- If I am correct this is 'one more curse' in the UK version. Maybe worth
checking and mentioning.


EGroups or Yahoo Groups?
- Are we bothering to change descriptions from one to the other?



And I thought of something else, but my mind is being sieve like. Will say
what it was if my mind returns!



Simon (now if only I could manage my time better to stop me registering
silly e-mail accounts and spend more time on my FAQs...)





From HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com  Sun Feb  4 07:39:03 2001
From: HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com (HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 4 Feb 2001 07:39:03 -0000
Subject: New file uploaded to HP4GU-FAQ 
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Hello,

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From kippesp at swbell.net  Sun Feb  4 07:41:26 2001
From: kippesp at swbell.net (Paul M. Kippes)
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 01:41:26 -0600
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Mysteries FAQ: Questions & Favors
In-Reply-To: <3A7C531E.B149F17B@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20010204012601.02983740@postoffice.swbell.net>

Formatting thing fixed.

Changed one be-->by (typo).
Changed one he-->Voldemort (Anyone could figure this out, but I had to 
restart the sentence).

A single question from the overall section:
Don't we know that Harry's birthday is 31 July?  Or is the year in question?




From kippesp at swbell.net  Sun Feb  4 07:52:16 2001
From: kippesp at swbell.net (Paul M. Kippes)
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 01:52:16 -0600
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Mysteries FAQ: Questions & Favors
In-Reply-To: <3A7C531E.B149F17B@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20010204014444.029e0e90@postoffice.swbell.net>

On the formatting thing. . . .

Word has this nifty thing where you can copy a paragraph's formatting.
To correct your original document, copy the formatting of the next numbered 
paragraph (3. "Wand order Issue" in this case).  To do this select the 
entire source paragraph.  With the paragraph selected, click the Paintbrush 
Icon--tool tips say "Format Painter" on my version.  Then select the entire 
destination paragraph.

The numbered list in this area was continuing from the next numbered 
list.  You probably already know about this, but it was necessary to go 
into Paragraph-->Bullets and Numbering... and select Restart Numbering.

(All for future reference, of course)

Paul




From pennylin at swbell.net  Sun Feb  4 14:09:17 2001
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 08:09:17 -0600
Subject: Mysteries FAQ: Questions & Favors
References: <5.0.0.25.2.20010204012601.02983740@postoffice.swbell.net>
Message-ID: <3A7D628D.87F414E@swbell.net>

Hi --

"Paul M. Kippes" wrote:

> Formatting thing fixed.

Thank you, thank you!  I see your tips in a separate message -- I'll
save those for future reference. I knew that's what it was doing, but I
couldn't seem to get it changed.

> A single question from the overall section:
> Don't we know that Harry's birthday is 31 July?  Or is the year in
> question?

It's the year that is in question.  Some people have questioned the year
based on Dudley having a play station in 1994 at the beginning of GoF.

Penny
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From pennylin at swbell.net  Sun Feb  4 14:12:10 2001
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 08:12:10 -0600
Subject: Mysteries FAQ: Questions & Favors
References: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINAEGEDCAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <3A7D633A.4DBC586F@swbell.net>

Hi --

Simon wrote:

> >From FAQ: "In Chapter 1, Voldemort tells Wormtail that they must only
> kill
> one more person and then the path to Harry Potter is clear."
> - If I am correct this is 'one more curse' in the UK version. Maybe
> worth
> checking and mentioning.

Okay.

> EGroups or Yahoo Groups?
> - Are we bothering to change descriptions from one to the other?

I decided with this one to do "Yahoo Clubs" to designate the old
pre-August 2000 messages and then to just say Egroups.  Should it be
Yahoogroups though since we'll be definitely Yahoogroups once the FAQs
are uploaded?  Hmmm .... probably.  What do others think?

Penny
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Date: 4 Feb 2001 10:02:11 -0800
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Mysteries FAQ: Questions & Favors
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From HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com  Fri Feb  9 00:24:51 2001
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From pennylin at swbell.net  Fri Feb  9 00:25:09 2001
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 18:25:09 -0600
Subject: Uploaded Revised Files
Message-ID: <3A8338E5.E5165E53@swbell.net>

Hi --

I've updated the following FAQs and uploaded new versions of them (so
they are ready to be HTML'd  .... not so subtle hint, hint):

Fanfic
Hermione
Religion
Mysteries & Inconsistencies
Universal Appeal of HP
Wizarding World -- Govt

I've added Jeralyn's latest finding to the Mysteries FAQ (the 10
Gryffindors fighting the boggart) and changed references to Yahoogroups
in all of these FAQs.

I will update Potential Romance Pairings (more updates needed to this
one!) and hopefully write the Hogwarts FAQ next week.

How is everyone else doing?  Any that I need to edit at this point?
Would someone like to volunteer to proof/edit my FAQs?

Any other comments to the Mysteries FAQ?  As I mentioned, I'd really
like to just take the step of printing that one out in hard copy &
mailing it off to the publishers & JKR.  We wouldn't want them to get
too far down the road with OOP without benefit of our collective wisdom,
now would we?  <g>

How is the website design process going, Steve?

Penny




From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Fri Feb  9 10:32:06 2001
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 10:32:06 -0000
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Uploaded Revised Files
In-Reply-To: <3A8338E5.E5165E53@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINGEMCDCAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

Penny wrote: "How is everyone else doing?  Any that I need to edit at this
point?"

I have nearly completed my notes for the Harry FAQ. Then will type it up
(which may take a long time as I have a large number of pages of notes).
Voldemort needs typing.
At the moment I am working with all messages to number 9575 (arbitrarily
picked as the number of messages there were when I last looked for messages
for my FAQs).


This past week I have been too ill to do very much, and on a couple of days
this could be written as too ill to do anything more arduous than get out of
bed. I am nearly better now, but have to catch up on the work I have missed
this week (luckily not too much as I only have to copy up some notes and not
actually do the work that I didn't do at the beginning of the week).

Hopefully I will have some spare time to spend on the FAQs over the weekend
and in next week. My typing skills aren't great so it may take a while to
type the Harry FAQ. Hopefully the end of this month will see me completed.
How many messages behind current I will be by then I do not know, and
depending on how quickly things happen will depend on how far towards
current I can get the FAQs updated.


Will write more soon.

Simon




From Aberforths_Goat at Yahoo.com  Sat Feb 10 10:49:41 2001
From: Aberforths_Goat at Yahoo.com (Aberforth's Goat)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:49:41 +0100
Subject: Still here!
References: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINGEMCDCAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <000701c0934f$348e14c0$5e00a8c0@cablecom.ch>

Hi folks!

Just wanted to reassure everyone that I haven't been eaten by a troll,
locked up in a psychiatric ward, captured by aliens or banned from the
internet for lame humor! I've got a huge work load just now, not to mention
my ongoing attempts at buying a new laptop over auction sites, with several
resulting Adventures.

(Said Adventures involve--among many other things--a big auction scam, my
response in the form of my very own Yahoo group called "AuctionAbuse," an
ISP in Bangkok, three Northamptonshire Police detectives, and a furious
Hells Angels biker who wanted to organize a trip to the UK to beat up the
scammer.)

Anyway, I'm still here and I'll have those FAQ's done in three weeks, come
hell or high water.

Baaaaaa!

Aberforth's Goat (a.k.a. Mike Gray, who was stunned to see he has slipped to
rank 28 on the posting list.)




From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Thu Feb 15 23:33:30 2001
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 23:33:30 -0000
Subject: FAQs
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINAEEJDDAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

Hello all,

This group seemed to be lacking messages so I decided to write one too it.

I have changed the eGroups references to Yahoo Groups in all my FAQs and
uploaded the ones I had already done.

I have also uploaded the start of the Harry FAQ. This is there simply to
offer me a convenient place to store a backup copy that is away from my
computer. It has the looks as if it may be quite long. Or, in fact, very,
very long.

At the moment I am filling my spare time with the typing of the Harry FAQ,
but I am working as well on that as ff.net is working at the moment (i.e.
sporadically and with little sign of improving).



Simon




From kippesp at swbell.net  Sun Feb 18 02:26:57 2001
From: kippesp at swbell.net (P Kippes)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 02:26:57 -0000
Subject: HTML Help (i.e. Questions)
Message-ID: <96nbth+7uds@eGroups.com>

I've been looking into how to best convert the Word documents and am 
finding that the footnotes in my version of Word are dropped when 
saving as an HTML.  I'm in the process of looking for RTF-->HTML 
converters.

I've posted what I have so far completed on the Hermione Granger 
FAQ.  But before I go down a path, take a look at what I've completed 
so far--it isn't much.  Its completely "undressed," so it doesn't 
have that nice parchment look like Steve's.

Paul







From kippesp at swbell.net  Sun Feb 18 03:33:29 2001
From: kippesp at swbell.net (P Kippes)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 03:33:29 -0000
Subject: Converted FAQ Question
Message-ID: <96nfq9+b7d7@eGroups.com>

Okay.  I put found a program that is okay.  I'll put up a new and 
improved document later tonight.  We'll see.

I've removed my old file, BTW.  I'll also create a directory 
structure for the converted files so we don't all confuse ourselves.

For reference.  The conversion tool can be obtained here:
http://piper.ntua.gr/toolkit.html

Not a BAD job.  Pretty good in that it will save some time.

Paul




From HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com  Sun Feb 18 04:10:05 2001
From: HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com (HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 18 Feb 2001 04:10:05 -0000
Subject: New file uploaded to HP4GU-FAQ 
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From kippesp at swbell.net  Sun Feb 18 04:36:14 2001
From: kippesp at swbell.net (P Kippes)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 04:36:14 -0000
Subject: Two converted files posted
Message-ID: <96njfu+ftqs@eGroups.com>

I've converted the Hermione Granger FAQ.  One version has itty-
bitty "fn #" for the notes.  The other has bracketed [#].  Any 
preferences?

Is there anything glarring that should be changed?  I can convert all 
of those that use footnotes now that I have a less time consuming 
method of doing it.

Paul





From kippesp at swbell.net  Sun Feb 18 04:41:53 2001
From: kippesp at swbell.net (P Kippes)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 04:41:53 -0000
Subject: More questions
Message-ID: <96njqh+jj9g@eGroups.com>

Does anyone have too many cons regarding splitting long FAQs.  One 
example would be the JKR one.

Instead of splitting, it could be subsectioned with jumps at the 
front.  Since we're volunteers, a rather long page is fine by me.

Paul





From kippesp at swbell.net  Sun Feb 18 05:10:26 2001
From: kippesp at swbell.net (P Kippes)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 05:10:26 -0000
Subject: Cross reference Clarification
Message-ID: <96nlg2+iuff@eGroups.com>

I was looking at past messages and is this the we tend to want:
  - Cross reference links for links within the FAQ.
  - References to messages do not get a link.

I'm concerned if we add links to the message we could create future 
headaches should Yahoo! change their locations for things.  Sort of 
like what they did with the spaces vs. '+' thing.

I think I'm just talking to myself tonight.   Humm. . . .

Paul






From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Sun Feb 18 06:34:11 2001
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 06:34:11 -0000
Subject: HTML-ising
Message-ID: <96nqd3+boa1@eGroups.com>

Paul, thanks for doing all that work... and on a Saturday night!  

I'd really like to get a bit further with my work on these blessed 
FAQs, but I have other things to do at the moment (things that people 
are, optimistically, paying me to do, the fools).  At the moment, I'm 
seeing myself in the Mirror of Erised, clutching several rolls of 
parchment labelled "Neils FAQs". It will happen!

A couple of points.

(a) Note that several of these FAQs are drafts requiring proofreading.

(b) Before 'dressing' any of the files, it's worth checking with 
Steve VA, if you haven't already, on how he plans to present these, 
since they will be located on the Lexicon site.  I'm sorry if I'm 
stating the obvious; I would just hate you both to spend time doing 
the same tasks!

The couple of drafts I've posted are already in basic html form and 
my arrangement is totally different to Penny's.  I decided to put my 
refs at the end of each section mainly because I started with Magical 
Devices, which fell into distinct mini-sections.  It was also partly 
because I didn't use a strict footnoting system, so it was less clear 
which ref referred to which piece of text.  I may need to rethink my 
approach.... 

Simon, Heidi and the others have used slightly different approaches 
(Simon has the footnotes too, whereas Heidi's approach is similar to 
mine, IIRC). I hope this won't confuse the issue.  

Re, message linking, I agree that we shouldn't link to individual 
messages.  In my FAQs - the couple I've drafted - I named and dated 
the eGroups messages or threads, because I was using the messages 
archived by my e-mail system and none of the messages were numbered.  
I intend to go online to check the message numbers (or the numbers of 
the messages that initiated threads).

Splitting the FAQs?  We could do that with 'list' things (like 
Magical Devices, Magical Animals etc), but I think the character FAQs 
should stay whole.

I'm not sure how the footnotes should be presented... I'll get back 
to you on that.

Neil








From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Sun Feb 18 06:36:11 2001
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 06:36:11 -0000
Subject: HTML-ising
In-Reply-To: <96nqd3+boa1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <96nqgr+hfo2@eGroups.com>

I also need to post less cluttered html versions of the files, since 
I used Word's webpage facility with all that memory-filling crap in 
it...

Don't worry, I had noticed.

Neil




From kippesp at swbell.net  Sun Feb 18 07:15:14 2001
From: kippesp at swbell.net (Paul M. Kippes)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 01:15:14 -0600
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] HTML-ising
In-Reply-To: <96nqd3+boa1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20010218010214.02b752f8@postoffice.swbell.net>

At 06:34 AM 2/18/2001 +0000, Neil wrote:
>Paul, thanks for doing all that work... and on a Saturday night!

I volunteered to do some of this conversion stuff a loooong time ago, and 
was feeling neglectful of obligations.  Plus, Monday is a holiday in the 
U.S.  Yippee!

>(a) Note that several of these FAQs are drafts requiring proofreading.

Good point.  I just wanted to see what kind of work the Word-->HTML 
conversion would require.  I was able to automate a good portion of the 
process.  The only manual process is error checking, heading format 
changes, adding cross links.  Depending on the number of intra-FAQ cross 
links, I think I have it down to 20 minutes or so (based on the Hermione 
Granger FAQ).

As a side note, if Steve or someone else follows my method of using the 
PIPER Tool Kit (see earlier message for the link), the HTML output of the 
PIPER program was slightly modified.  I wrote a sed script to strip out 
Font and Superscript tags.  It also changes the footnotes to brackets from 
that crazy "fn 1" junk.  In other words, there is no need to do this kind 
of repetition by hand.  (I didn't like the dates being superscripted since 
line spacing was non-constant.)

>(b) Before 'dressing' any of the files, it's worth checking with
>Steve VA, if you haven't already, on how he plans to present these,
>since they will be located on the Lexicon site.  I'm sorry if I'm
>stating the obvious; I would just hate you both to spend time doing
>the same tasks!

True.  I took it up to that point.  Especially since I didn't get the sense 
that decisions were finalized.

I'll hold off on converting.  Perhaps I'll pass the time by reading the FAQs!

Paul




From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Sun Feb 18 17:17:59 2001
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:17:59 -0000
Subject: VFAQ
Message-ID: <000c01c099ce$be962ec0$593770c2@c5s910j>

I've uploaded an updated version of the VFAQ to the FAQ group and it's also in the Files section of the main group.  It's an html document, and I admit that it's a bit larger than it could be... I haven't got the time or inclination to edit out the Word webcrap.  I thought it best to get something posted at least, to which we can refer.

Have a look at it and let me have any comments on it.  

I've also created a short text file which points to this html document and that will be sent out on sunscription.  That's in the Files section too.

Neil
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From kippesp at swbell.net  Tue Feb 20 07:35:10 2001
From: kippesp at swbell.net (Paul M. Kippes)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 01:35:10 -0600
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Cross References
In-Reply-To: <3A67503E.19D3029D@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20010220012935.02a36d20@postoffice.swbell.net>

At 02:21 PM 1/18/2001 -0600, Penny wrote:
>Hi --
>
>Is there some easy way for me to indicate a cross-reference that should
>be linked to another FAQ or is that something that the person HTML'ing
>the documents will handle?  Right now, I have See "Potential Romantic
>Pairings" for more information on this topic in my Hermione FAQ.
>Obviously, we'd want people to be able to click on the phrase Potential
>Romantic Pairings & get taken directly to that FAQ.  Is the way I've
>done it okay for now or is there some coding that should go in so the
>HTML'er will notice it & take care of it?
>
>Penny


I know it's a little late, but for those of you endeavoring to complete 
your FAQs, these kinds of things will need to be addressed 
individually.  On the conversion I did for the Hermione FAQ, I left this 
TBD.  Basically, the web site owner needs to define a directory structure 
and with predetermined filenames, the links can be, well, linked.

But you all knew that, right?

Paul




From kippesp at swbell.net  Tue Feb 20 08:22:57 2001
From: kippesp at swbell.net (Paul M. Kippes)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 02:22:57 -0600
Subject: Maintaining, HTML, Word, RTF, Conversions, & fluff
Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20010220013516.02a781f0@postoffice.swbell.net>

At least two in our ranks have commented about Microsoft Word 9's export 
(File Save As. . . ) to HTML feature adding extra fluff.  I've looked at 
the files in question (specifically vfaq.html) and, yes, there is quite a 
bit of fluff-o-la in there.  But more on this in a bit. . . .

More importantly, how do we want to handle updates in the future?  Is there 
a desire to directly edit the final HTML files (once they are 
completed)?  Or do we need to maintain the "source" document and edit those 
instead?  Or do we want to edit an interim HTML file without the copyright, 
header, footer, and parchment?  Or perhaps a combination of formats?

The main reason I ask is triggered by looking at the source of the vfaq 
file.  It literally is horrendous to make sense of it with all of the 
Microsoft style references and meta data that Word stored in there.  As it 
stands, this file would be tedious to maintain in the future and add new 
VFAQs to.  I know Neil used the conversion tools he had available which is 
understandable and we forgive him.

Finally, the link I posted this last weekend on that nifty PIPER program 
does table conversions as well.  In my opinion, the HTML output that is 
generated by this program is superior to what Word can do.  (I don't think 
I ever explicitly indicated that this program requires RTF--rich transfer 
file format--which all versions of MS Word support.)  So if there are FAQs 
that have tables and tables are, in fact, the best way to present the data, 
then a case can be made to use this utility to do the conversion.

As a side note, I don't believe the Word-->RTF-->HTML conversion (with 
minimal fluff) is that big of a deal.  But each time the conversion (using 
the utility I'm recommending) is performed, the HTML file must still be 
changed a little bit.  I would think that if future modifications edit the 
HTML files directly, this would be the easiest for the group as a 
whole.  Especially since this means that no "special utilities" would be 
required.

Now I know I have strong opinions about certain things.  So if I'm 
overstepping my bounds just transfer this to the "Ya right" file.

Paul




From pennylin at swbell.net  Wed Feb 21 01:14:19 2001
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:14:19 -0600
Subject: Logo Competition
References: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINEELGDDAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <3A93166B.23F24F25@swbell.net>

Hi --

I love all the logo entries!  It would be great to have more, but we
have some very nice possibilities from the current entries.  Hard to
choose!  Has Heidi said if any of them cause any legal problems?  If
none of them will get us in any trouble, then I say open up the
competition.  The poll voting can be anywhere as far as I'm concerned,
although I do like the idea of making people join the Announcements
Group to vote.  :--)

Penny






From pennylin at swbell.net  Wed Feb 21 01:25:43 2001
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:25:43 -0600
Subject: FAQs: Conversion to HTML; Maintaining & other stuff
Message-ID: <3A931917.DB927438@swbell.net>

Hi --

Looks like Paul has been busy experimenting with what will work best for
us -- many thanks!

Thanks for creating the Converted FAQs subdirectory -- it could have
gotten confusing otherwise.


> I've converted the Hermione Granger FAQ.  One version has itty-
> bitty "fn #" for the notes.  The other has bracketed [#].  Any
> preferences?
>
I vote for the bracketed references.  I know this is something for
later, but I would like the quoted text at the beginning of the FAQ to
be set off more like it is in the Word document (no space in between the
quote & the book, then double space before the next quote ... if that
makes sense).  Other than that, it looks good to me.

I too would rather not split the long FAQs.  Subsections with jumps at
the front is fine by me though.

> I was looking at past messages and is this the we tend to want:
>   - Cross reference links for links within the FAQ.
>   - References to messages do not get a link.
>
Yes on the above.

I agree with Neil to keep in mind that all of the uploaded FAQs still
need to be proofed & edited.  Some of them need revisions -- I'm in the
process of revising the Potential Romance Pairings one for example (the
one uploaded is from the end of Oct -- well before the OBHWF theory and
the now-popular D/H & D/G pairings).


> More importantly, how do we want to handle updates in the future?  Is there
> a desire to directly edit the final HTML files (once they are
> completed)?  Or do we need to maintain the "source" document and edit those
> instead?  Or do we want to edit an interim HTML file without the copyright,
> header, footer, and parchment?  Or perhaps a combination of formats?
>
I want to do whatever is easiest.  It would be ideal if it could be
something that a non-techie like me could do with some basic
step-by-step instructions.  I plan on volunteering to update a limited #
of the FAQs (not nearly as many as I wrote originally but I doubt I can
let anyone handle my Hermione FAQ for example!).  <vbg>

Penny


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From pennylin at swbell.net  Wed Feb 21 20:14:05 2001
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:14:05 -0600
Subject: Mysteries FAQ to JKR & Publishers
Message-ID: <3A94218D.86AA52D5@swbell.net>

Hi --

Does anyone have any objections to me mailing off a print-out of the
Mysteries & Inconsistencies FAQ to JKR and each publisher?  I thought I
would also include a copy of our proposed Table of Contents/Index for
the FAQs.  I've also given some thought to including a copy of the FAQs
for Ron & Hermione, both of which are pretty complete at this point.
And, of course, I'll do a cover letter explaining our group and the
FAQs.

Who knows?  It might result in some of the mysteries being explained in
OoP.  :--)

If I hear no objections by tomorrow morning, I'll do this.

Penny




From pennylin at swbell.net  Fri Feb 23 03:51:03 2001
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:51:03 -0600
Subject: Letter to JKR Sent
Message-ID: <3A95DE27.1024C720@swbell.net>

Hi --

I've sent out the package to JKR (cover letter, Table of Contents,
Mysteries FAQ, Ron FAQ, Hermione FAQ & Geography FAQ).  I also made
copies of everything & will send out packages of the same to the
publishers tomorrow or the next day.  I really hope some of the
Mysteries get addressed!  And, I would *love* it if we got a reply that
she would do a chat with grownup fans.  :--)

Penny