From sarvalsha at dellnet.com  Tue Jan  2 06:53:55 2001
From: sarvalsha at dellnet.com (Margaret McNie)
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 22:53:55 -0800
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Update
References: <3A4CB04D.F826296B@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <002401c07488$c7e4aa80$93730e3f@fxgg10b>

Hi all,

I'm with Neil. I've said I'm almost done so often . . .

I really haven't had much of a chance to work on my FAQs for the past few
weeks. My mother moved from Australia into my apartment while she looked for
her own place. Then my sister and her roommate arrived from Kansas City for
Christmas. They are all gone now so I will be able to get back to work.
Happily I only have two, though they are not small ones.

I wouldn't like to take any more either based on how long it's taken me so
far. I'm for recruiting new blood.

Hope everyone had wonderful holidays.


Margaret

P.S. Penny, I haven't had a chance to say congratulations yet. I had a
chance to spend some time with our youngest family members this Christmas,
two little girls, one eighteen months and one sixteen months. Ever watch
Inside the Actor's Studio? There's an oral questionnaire at the end of each
show which asks among other things 'What is your favorite sound?'. We
decided that a baby laughing would be our answer. Anyway congratulations!



----- Original Message -----
From: Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer <pennylin at swbell.net>
To: <HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 7:39 AM
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Update


> Hi --
>
> I trust you're all working diligently on your FAQs, yes?  I'm now
> turning more to mine, having only had sporadic time to work on them
> since mid-November.  I'm anxious to knock mine out in relatively short
> order for obvious reasons.  <g>
>
> I just uploaded a draft "Table of Contents" to give our FAQs some
> structure.  Please take a look at it & give suggestions for
> improvement.  As you'll see, I couldn't think of an appropriate title
> for the section that includes the audio versions, movie, fanfiction,
> merchandise, etc.  Hopefully, one of you will be able to come up with
> something snappy & appropriate.
>
> Heidi -- do we need to make any sort of trademark notation where I've
> italicized "Harry Potter"?
>
> Thanks to Paul for volunteering earlier to step in as the HTML'er for
> the FAQs.  I do believe we may have lost Melanie.  I haven't heard a
> word from her in months now.  Unfortunately, her absence raises an even
> bigger issue perhaps than who will HTML all this stuff.  She had
> volunteered to author 7 of the FAQs, and she didn't upload drafts of any
> of them before disappearing.  Unfortunate since it's possible she did do
> some work on them that could be used by us in finishing them up.  So
> .... here are the ones that she's down for - any takers?
>
> Audio Versions (short & easy folks)
> Chronology & Timeline
> Clothing (Wizarding World)
> Fan Clubs (again, short & easy)
> Houses of Hogwarts
> Predictions: GoF (this is really just a summary & ought not to be too
> difficult -- no new messages)
> Similarities between Voldemort & the Potters
>
> This is not as heinous as if one of us suddenly had to start from
> scratch with say Neil's FAQs (which are pretty meaty).  Since I'm doing
> Hogwarts, I will take on the Houses of Hogwarts one as well.
>
> I would like to start the process of uploading what we can, as soon as
> we can.  I think the response we'll get from the group could serve as a
> good motivator to go ahead & finish up.  As you finish putting finishing
> touches on your FAQs, please let me know that you've uploaded what you
> consider to be a final version.  If you've uploaded a FAQ to the FAQs
> folder already & you're happy with it right now, just let me know & I'll
> add it to my "to be proofed" list.  I'm going to polish off the ones
> I've uploaded before continuing on with the ones in progress.  Once I
> edit each of the ones we're happy with, I'll let Paul know to go ahead &
> HTML that particular FAQ.
>
> Paul -- Heidi & I have had some discussions with Steve of Lexicon fame
> re: where to host the FAQs.  As I recall, we haven't reached any
> conclusion.  But, Heidi may have had further conversations with him
> since I last heard -- any news on that front, Heidi?
>
> Oh -- if you need a reminder of which FAQs you're authoring, check the
> Master List of FAQs in the Database section
>
> http://www.egroups.com/database/HP4GU-FAQ
>
> Thanks everyone!!!
>
> Penny
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com
>
>
>




From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Thu Jan  4 23:07:16 2001
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Flying Ford Anglia)
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 23:07:16 -0000
Subject: VFAQ....?/Ron Weasley
Message-ID: <932vn4+e3gs@eGroups.com>

I was wondering whether we should have a Very Frequently Asked 
Questions (VFAQ) section listing only those questions that make us 
all cry "not again!"  The intention would be to prevent new members 
from asking these questions, which might otherwise be buried in the 
topical FAQs.  We could just say "see such-and-such FAQ" rather than 
writing yet another summary for each.

Is this worth considering? Any thoughts on what might be included?

Here a few...

Wand order
Gleam in the eye
Stouffer lawsuit
When is the film out?
When is Book 5 out?
Ancestor/descendent
Number of students

***

I'm working on Ron Weasley at the moment.  Penny, I haven't gone into 
much detail on Love Interest; just a teaser and reference to the 
Romance Pairings FAQ.  Is that okay?

On the other hand, I have included the same section on "will Ron get 
to play Quidditch?" in both the RW and Quidditch FAQs, for different 
reasons.

I haven't made much headway on Snape, which is the Boggart of my 
collection, but I have to do the character summary for mid February, 
so that gives me an incentive to complete it.

Some of the FAQs that I thought would be a doddle are turning out to 
be a pain.  Casting, for example, which is potential linkfest with 
all the pictures of cast members and locations, biogs etc.  Thank 
goodness Jim has all the files in hand.  Ages ago I asked him to cast 
an eye over the FAQ, so it's no surprise he's now asking how we're 
doing!  

Spells and Charms is another one of those burgeoning topics: for 
example, I feel obliged to scan the megazillion "Priori Incantatem" 
posts for relevant comments, although most of those fall under 
Mysteries & Inconsistencies.

I will soldier on. <g>

Neil












From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Thu Jan  4 23:54:34 2001
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:54:34 -0000
Subject: FAQ's
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINMECECPAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

Neil wrote: "I was wondering whether we should have a Very Frequently Asked
Questions (VFAQ) section listing only those questions that make us all cry
"not again!"  The intention would be to prevent new members from asking
these questions, which might otherwise be buried in the topical FAQs.  We
could just say "see such-and-such FAQ" rather than writing yet another
summary for each."

This sounds like quite a good idea - some of the suggestions would lead to
simple straight answers (such as November the whatever it is for the film
release) and others to refer people to the relevant FAQ's.


Neil wrote: "I haven't made much headway on Snape, which is the Boggart of
my Collection..."
And he wrote: "Some of the FAQs that I thought would be a doddle are turning
out to be a pain."

'Boggart of my collection' - LOL.
That would very definitely describe the Harry FAQ IMO. There are just so
many messages to wade through, and wade through I am. I have not read most
of the group messages that have appeared in the last 3 weeks. I intend to
only read them once for the purpose of seeing if any were relevant for my
FAQ's. Hopefully not too many are - otherwise I may be months away from
completing my FAQ's!


I wrote: "Also do we want someone to take a copy of the FAQ (welcome message
to the group), that Melanie hosts on her website, and the GoF schedule and
host them elsewhere, so they can be updated as needed?"
Penny replied: "I think we're going to need to do this.  Um .... Heidi?
Paul?  Any ideas how to go about this??  Help!"

As I see it we would need somewhere else to host the pages (I think there
are only two relevant ones - the introduction page
(http://www.geocities.com/ravenclawlady/grownups.html) and the GoF
discussion schedule page
(http://www.geocities.com/ravenclawlady/discussion.html)) and also then to
change the links on the group homepage (and anywhere else as necessary). I
could, if people want me too, copy the two pages (and any others that are
needed), and host then on my web space (putting in some reference to that
fact that Melanie created the pages and that I was updating them). This
would provide a solution for the next few months (my web space is provided
with my university e-mail account - I stop being a student here in June and
this e-mail account, and so web space, expires then), but we would need to
find a longer-term solution (I am basically offering to do this as a short
term measure until exact decisions about the FAQ web site are complete).


I am going away again, only for a couple of days this time (cooking for 80
by the sounds of things) - should be back late Sunday (in time for the chat
hopefully).

Simon







From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Fri Jan  5 01:00:02 2001
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 01:00:02 -0000
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] FAQ's
References: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINMECECPAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <005a01c076b2$ebb15ea0$793770c2@c5s910j>

> I wrote: "Also do we want someone to take a copy of the FAQ (welcome
message
> to the group), that Melanie hosts on her website, and the GoF schedule and
> host them elsewhere, so they can be updated as needed?"
> Penny replied: "I think we're going to need to do this.  Um .... Heidi?
> Paul?  Any ideas how to go about this??  Help!"
>
> As I see it we would need somewhere else to host the pages (I think there
> are only two relevant ones - the introduction page
> (http://www.geocities.com/ravenclawlady/grownups.html) and the GoF
> discussion schedule page
> (http://www.geocities.com/ravenclawlady/discussion.html)) and also then to
> change the links on the group homepage (and anywhere else as necessary).

Simon, maybe, with that backlog to get through, you hadn't read Penny's
message announcing the four additional marauders...sorry, moderators... for
the club - namely, Jeralyn (Voicelady), John Walton, Jim Flanagan and myself
(we volunteered in a moment of communal madness).

We're currently overhauling the admin side and John is planning to set up a
website to replace Melanie's.  Re your comment above, I took the precaution
today of creating text file copies of  the netiquette tips and weekly
summaries (now updated) and they are stored in the Files section as an
interim measure.  John is currently redrafting the welcome message and we'll
be sending out some automated messages (including one to promote the weekly
chats, I think).

Aside from the mundane admin stuff, I think it's fair to say that there will
be a good deal of liaison between the people in this group and the
moderators, plus other people such as Lexicon Steve, Joywitch (who is i/c of
chasing summaries) and perhaps Dee and Catlady, who have been quite involved
with the Chat and HPTour, respectively.

Good luck with all that cooking!

Neil









From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Fri Jan  5 08:43:03 2001
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 08:43:03 -0000
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINEECLCPAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

Not quite gone yet!

Neil wrote: "Simon, maybe, with that backlog to get through, you hadn't read
Penny's message announcing the four additional marauders...sorry,
moderators... for the club - namely, Jeralyn (Voicelady), John Walton, Jim
Flanagan and myself (we volunteered in a moment of communal madness)."

I had read that you were one of four new moderators, but did not read any
further to find out if you had plans to sort out the admin or web site
stuff. I'll find out what was written when I read through the messages while
writing my FAQ's.


Neil: "Aside from the mundane admin stuff, I think it's fair to say that
there will be a good deal of liaison between the people in this group and
the moderators, plus other people such as Lexicon Steve, Joywitch (who is
i/c of chasing summaries) and perhaps Dee and Catlady, who have been quite
involved with the Chat and HPTour, respectively."

We are, as a group of people, meant to liase? Sounds dangerous! If we
communicate then there will be no excuse for not knowing what is going on -
apart from the 'I still haven't read all those messages'.


Neil: "Good luck with all that cooking!"

Thanks


Simon




From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Fri Jan  5 13:19:02 2001
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Flying Ford Anglia)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 13:19:02 -0000
Subject: Club admin...
In-Reply-To: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINEECLCPAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <934hk6+9tq6@eGroups.com>

Simon wrote: 

<<<I had read that you were one of four new moderators, but did not 
read any further to find out if you had plans to sort out the admin 
or web site stuff. I'll find out what was written when I read through 
the messages while writing my FAQ's.>>>

Okay.  Actually, not much has been said yet in HPfGU, but, 
inevitably, the moderators started looking into some of the admin 
issues that were previously raised here. 

BTW, I've deleted the files I said I'd added to HPfGU Files for the 
moment as Jim Flanagan has copied the html from Melanie's site 
(including the schedule for weekly summaries) for editing elsewhere.  
The information will be loaded into the Files section soon.

Neil





From pennylin at swbell.net  Sat Jan  6 04:11:53 2001
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 22:11:53 -0600
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] VFAQ....?/Ron Weasley
References: <932vn4+e3gs@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3A569B09.90213863@swbell.net>

Hi --

Flying Ford Anglia wrote:

> I was wondering whether we should have a Very Frequently Asked
> Questions (VFAQ) section listing only those questions that make us
> all cry "not again!"

Did this ever get answered?  I've lost track I'm afraid......  I think
it's a *great* idea.  Is someone designated to do this?

> We could just say "see such-and-such FAQ" rather than writing yet
> another summary for each.

Definitely -- but it would be a handy reference -- boldface the
questions & then just a quick reference to which FAQ is relevant.
Shouldn't be too hard.  Could be created easily once we've got all the
FAQs completed.

> Here a few...
>
> Wand order
> Gleam in the eye
> Stouffer lawsuit
> When is the film out?
> When is Book 5 out?
> Ancestor/descendent
> Number of students

I'm racking my brain but can't come up with any more VFAQs.  I'm sure
others will occur to us though.  Hey, how about "Who will Hermione date:
Harry or Ron?"  <dissolves into hysterical laughter>

> I'm working on Ron Weasley at the moment.  Penny, I haven't gone into
> much detail on Love Interest; just a teaser and reference to the
> Romance Pairings FAQ.  Is that okay?

That's what I'm doing with Hermione too.  I'm *so* close to being caught
up on Hermione within egroups messages .... so so very close.  Course,
then I have yet to comb through GoF for Hermione quotes, references,
etc.

> I haven't made much headway on Snape, which is the Boggart of my
> collection, but I have to do the character summary for mid February,
> so that gives me an incentive to complete it.

I have twin boggarts in my collection: Hogwarts &
Mysteries/Inconsistencies.

> Some of the FAQs that I thought would be a doddle are turning out to
> be a pain.

I know the feeling there too -- there were several that I thought would
be no more than an hour or two to handle.  None of them have been all
that simple really.  Even the fanfic one blossomed into quite a chore.

> I will soldier on. <g>

Glad to hear it.  Me too.

Penny

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From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Sat Jan  6 10:13:14 2001
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 10:13:14 -0000
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] VFAQ....?/
References: <932vn4+e3gs@eGroups.com> <3A569B09.90213863@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <00b801c077c9$5dd44c60$663370c2@c5s910j>

Flying Ford Anglia wrote: 

"I was wondering whether we should have a Very Frequently Asked Questions (VFAQ) section listing only those questions that make us all cry "not again!">>"


Penny said:


"Did this ever get answered?  I've lost track I'm afraid......  I think it's a *great* idea.  Is someone designated to do this?"


Neil again: 


I'll do it (I don't think we've discussed it before).  Well, I can hardly suggest something and then say 'so who *else* is going to do this?'!  Can we throw up suggestions for inclusion now and then?  Apart from the list I posted, I can't think of any others, but there must be some.


I think it also makes sense from the POV that most of the FAQs are rather more than just Q&As.  Should we, perhaps, think of another way to describe the FAQs we've been doing so that anything we call an FAQ *is* just a Q&A?  I know Penny has suggested something like "comprehensive, substantive FAQs" but how about "Discussion Digests", "Topical Digests", "Subject Profiles"... something along those lines.  


None of those sounds right though.... How about "Analaysis/Digests of Frequently Asked Questions (AFAQs or DFAQs)"? 

Penny said: 


"I'm sure others will occur to us though.  Hey, how about "Who will Hermione date: Harry or Ron?"  <dissolves into hysterical laughter>" 


<also laughing> Yes, that'll really deflect the discussion!  Oh, that reminds me of another VFAQ:  "How do you pronounce Hermione?"  This brings back fond memories of me posting something on digraph letters and inflections.  Talk about over-analysis!


Neil

_____________________________________


Flying-Ford-Anglia

 

"Ron, full of turkey and cake and with nothing 
mysterious to bother him, fell asleep almost 
as soon as he'd drawn the curtains of his
four-poster."

 

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From pennylin at swbell.net  Sat Jan  6 14:58:38 2001
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 08:58:38 -0600
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] VFAQ....?/
References: <932vn4+e3gs@eGroups.com> <3A569B09.90213863@swbell.net> <00b801c077c9$5dd44c60$663370c2@c5s910j>
Message-ID: <3A57329E.773EEBA6@swbell.net>

Hi --

Neil Ward wrote:


> Can we throw up suggestions for inclusion now and then?  Apart from the list I posted, I can't think of
> any others, but there must be some.
>
I think it'll be good to add some from time to time -- we may even think
of more of them as we're combing through the FAQs.  Adding
pronounciation of Hermione is a good one.  As for what to call the FAQs,
I'm definitely open to suggestions.  I've never really liked FAQs
because it does imply a Q&A format.  I like the idea of somehow
conveying that these are analytical essays relating to large-scale HP
topics.  Hmm .... how to word that?  Well, if you all want to settle
that up in my absence too, feel free!  <g>

Penny
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From voicelady at mymailstation.com  Sun Jan  7 20:24:13 2001
From: voicelady at mymailstation.com (voicelady at mymailstation.com)
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 20:24:13 -0000
Subject: Recommended Reading FAQ
Message-ID: <93aj9d+hn29@eGroups.com>

Hi all - I recently volunteered to take care of this FAQ (since I 
seem to recall being a major contributor to this thread the several 
times it came up), and I have a few questions regarding formatting.

I've spent the past couple of days reading all of the posts here, but 
couldn't quite nail down any type of rules.  Is there a set font, 
size, etc?  I was going to set up a table listing the title, author, 
brief sentence synopsis (if that's at all possible/available).  Does 
this sound okay?

Jeralyn




From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Sun Jan  7 22:09:00 2001
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 22:09:00 -0000
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Recommended Reading FAQ
References: <93aj9d+hn29@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001c01c078f6$70c1a240$4c3570c2@c5s910j>

That sounds fine.  That FAQ is one that lends itself to a list format. I'd
say, go with what seems sensible to you.

We haven't really decided on fonts etc as yet, because we were going to
process the whole lot into the same html format later ('later' being a
further and further into the future).  Some of the FAQs are more like
essays, some are Q&As whilst a few are more like lists.

Neil

----- Original Message -----
From: <voicelady at mymailstation.com>
To: <HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 8:24 PM
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Recommended Reading FAQ


> Hi all - I recently volunteered to take care of this FAQ (since I
> seem to recall being a major contributor to this thread the several
> times it came up), and I have a few questions regarding formatting.
>
> I've spent the past couple of days reading all of the posts here, but
> couldn't quite nail down any type of rules.  Is there a set font,
> size, etc?  I was going to set up a table listing the title, author,
> brief sentence synopsis (if that's at all possible/available).  Does
> this sound okay?
>
> Jeralyn
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com
>
>
>




From HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com  Mon Jan  8 00:38:14 2001
From: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com (HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com)
Date: 8 Jan 2001 00:38:14 -0000
Subject: New file uploaded to HP4GU-FAQ 
Message-ID: <978914294.92852@egroups.com>


Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the HP4GU-FAQ 
group.

  File        : /FAQs/VFAQ.htm 
  Uploaded by : neilward at dircon.co.uk 
  Description : Very Frequently Asked Questions 

You can access this file at the URL

http://www.egroups.com/files/HP4GU-FAQ/FAQs/VFAQ%2Ehtm 

To learn more about eGroups file sharing, please visit

http://www.egroups.com/help/files.html


Regards,

neilward at dircon.co.uk
 






From john at walton.to  Mon Jan  8 00:50:52 2001
From: john at walton.to (John Walton)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 00:50:52 +0000
Subject: Comments on the VFAQ
In-Reply-To: <978914294.92852@egroups.com>
Message-ID: <B67EBF6C.9C9C%john@walton.to>

1) UK release date for the film is supposed to be simultaneous to the US
release date.

2) Comic Relief isn't just a UK charity, it's in the USA as well. (Other
countries, anyone?)

Thassit :)

========================================
John Walton     john at walton.to

"Don't Blame Me--I fully perforated my chad"
======================================== 




From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Mon Jan  8 00:50:53 2001
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Flying Ford Anglia)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 00:50:53 -0000
Subject: VFAQ
Message-ID: <93b2td+pn99@eGroups.com>

I've uploaded a very rough draft table of very frequently asked 
questions (not intended to be comprehensive at this stage).  

We can add, delete and restyle as necessary... 

It's in Files under FAQs.

Neil




From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Mon Jan  8 00:55:28 2001
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Flying Ford Anglia)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 00:55:28 -0000
Subject: Comments on the VFAQ
In-Reply-To: <B67EBF6C.9C9C%john@walton.to>
Message-ID: <93b360+pq35@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, John Walton wrote:

> 1) UK release date for the film is supposed to be simultaneous to 
the US
> release date.
> 
> 2) Comic Relief isn't just a UK charity, it's in the USA as well. 
(Other
> countries, anyone?)
> 
> Thassit :)

Okay - thanks.  Blimey, that was quick - did you use a time-turner?!

Ignore the fact that it says HP and the GoF at the top.  Like I said -
 it's just a draft.

Neil




From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Mon Jan  8 00:56:39 2001
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 00:56:39 -0000
Subject: Education
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINGEFCCPAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

For the Very frequently asked questions thing can we have something done
about the British education system - explaining about boarding schools,
GCSE's, A-levels and the correspondence to OWL's and Newt's.

This seems to come up quite often! If it is already in one of the FAQ's then
only a link would be needed, but I have just finished writing another
message about it and am getting slightly bored of explaining it all!


Simon




From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Mon Jan  8 00:30:20 2001
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 00:30:20 -0000
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Education
References: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINGEFCCPAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <001e01c0790a$2f7674a0$8c3570c2@c5s910j>

Simon said:

> For the Very frequently asked questions thing can we have something done
> about the British education system - explaining about boarding schools,
> GCSE's, A-levels and the correspondence to OWL's and Newt's.
>
> This seems to come up quite often! If it is already in one of the FAQ's
then
> only a link would be needed, but I have just finished writing another
> message about it and am getting slightly bored of explaining it all!

I'm glad you answered that one - it's a long time since I did my A-Levels!

Good suggestion.  Not sure how to sum all that up succinctly, but, as you
say, we can link to the FAQ (it would be the Hogwarts one I think, which is
one of Penny's)

Neil




From john at walton.to  Mon Jan  8 07:30:07 2001
From: john at walton.to (John Walton)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 07:30:07 +0000
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Education
In-Reply-To: <001e01c0790a$2f7674a0$8c3570c2@c5s910j>
Message-ID: <B67F1CFF.9CDF%john@walton.to>

Neil Ward wrote:

> Simon said:
> 
>> For the Very frequently asked questions thing can we have something done
>> about the British education system - explaining about boarding schools,
>> GCSE's, A-levels and the correspondence to OWL's and Newt's.
>> 
>> This seems to come up quite often! If it is already in one of the FAQ's
> then
>> only a link would be needed, but I have just finished writing another
>> message about it and am getting slightly bored of explaining it all!
> 
> I'm glad you answered that one - it's a long time since I did my A-Levels!
> 
> Good suggestion.  Not sure how to sum all that up succinctly, but, as you
> say, we can link to the FAQ (it would be the Hogwarts one I think, which is
> one of Penny's)
> 
> Neil

Speaking of time-turners, Neil managed to reply to Simon's email BEFORE
Simon's email was written (12.30 to 12.56!)

::sheepish look:: As official baby of the list, and person most recently
through the boarding school education process (I think...), I'd be happy to
write something for a FAQ.

--John
========================================
John Walton     john at walton.to

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======================================== 




From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Mon Jan  8 10:21:08 2001
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:21:08 -0000
Subject: Education
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINKEFKCPAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

John wrote: "::sheepish look:: As official baby of the list, and person most
recently through the boarding school education process (I think...), I'd be
happy to write something for a FAQ."

IIRC John wrote a masterpiece on the British education system a while back.
This may have been posted to Hpanon. If so then all that would be needed is
that along with something like what John and I combined to write last night.


Simon




From voicelady at mymailstation.com  Mon Jan  8 21:13:09 2001
From: voicelady at mymailstation.com (voicelady at mymailstation.com)
Date: 8 Jan 2001 13:13:09 -0800
Subject: Recommended rEading list
Message-ID: <20010108211309.12192.cpmta@c016.sfo.cp.net>

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From kippesp at swbell.net  Tue Jan  9 08:09:02 2001
From: kippesp at swbell.net (smitster )
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 08:09:02 -0000
Subject: Absent
Message-ID: <93eguu+ra58@eGroups.com>

Hello all.  I just wanted to let you know that my offer still stands 
to help out on formating the FAQ.  I see that Jeralyn may be heading 
this effort, so I can follow her lead if necessary.  (I'm glad my 
offer wasn't ignored.  After the absence of December traffic I 
neglected to even log in to the FAQ.)

As an aside, if for some reason, any e-mails that were directed to 
my "kippesp(at)swbell.net" account between say 1 December 2000 and 3 
January 2001 have been lost.  So should I have received any flames 
for my sudden absence you'll have to recompose and resend.

I'll try and prevent any further data losses.

Paul






From voicelady at mymailstation.com  Tue Jan  9 18:12:38 2001
From: voicelady at mymailstation.com (Jeralyn )
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 18:12:38 -0000
Subject: Recommended reading
Message-ID: <93fkam+lh1l@eGroups.com>

Hi - 

I'm going to (try to) upload this massive list.  I have it in word 
format and I also saved it in html.  I'm posting the html version.  
Take a look at it and let me know what you all think.




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From: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com (HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com)
Date: 9 Jan 2001 18:13:53 -0000
Subject: New file uploaded to HP4GU-FAQ 
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From kippesp at swbell.net  Wed Jan 10 06:39:30 2001
From: kippesp at swbell.net (Paul M. Kippes)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:39:30 -0600
Subject: FAQ Site question
Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20010110003018.00a72488@postoffice.swbell.net>

Does anyone have any feel for how these pages are to be formatted (with 
respect to header and footer) and linked together?  There are easy 
mechanisms to add common headers and footers to web pages and I could 
easily start work in that area since it is independent of content.

What I had in mind was an arrangement like the following on a non-main page


[Small Graphic header suggesting main FAQ page]
[text links back to main Lexicon page and our main FAQ page]
[FAQ contents]
[copyright, last updated, report errors here (All text)]


Paul




From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Fri Jan 12 11:16:48 2001
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:16:48 -0000
Subject: FAQ Site question and FAQ's
In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20010110003018.00a72488@postoffice.swbell.net>
Message-ID: <93mp30+373l@eGroups.com>

Paul wrote: "Does anyone have any feel for how these pages are to be 
formatted (with respect to header and footer) and linked together?  
There are easy mechanisms to add common headers and footers to web 
pages and I could easily start work in that area since it is 
independent of content.
What I had in mind was an arrangement like the following on a non-
main page

 [Small Graphic header suggesting main FAQ page]
 [text links back to main Lexicon page and our main FAQ page]
 [FAQ contents]
 [copyright, last updated, report errors here (All text)]"

And talking of graphic are we going to need a logo as well. A while 
back myself, and anotehr group member, drew a few possible logos 
(which are now stored somewhere in our files section). If so do we 
want to tell the group so that others have a chance to design a logo 
and then the best is chosen? Or should we just pick from those 
already done? Or do we as the FAQ group pick one?

Of course I exculde myself from picking a logo if we as the FAQ group 
decide - I think as I have designed some of them the decision should 
be made by the impartial members of the group (if such a position is 
possible!).


Penny wrote (a while back on HPforGU): "<snip>  hopefully the Weasley 
FAQ can be uploaded soonish so you can more easily read the arguments 
we've advanced.  <snip>  Simon has done a good draft of the Weasley 
FAQ so far so ... as soon as we can get our act together & start 
uploading these FAQs, you'll see what I mean."

Not trying to put any pressure on me then! <g>

I am in the process of altering the bit on Charlie and Bill's age to 
reflect all the possibilities mentioned - before it just linked to 
all the discussions!

I have nearly caught up with reading all the messages up to today - I 
then just have to go through and write the FAQ's. So now for a bit of 
a status report.


Predictions (for books 5, 6 and 7) - at the moment I have given up 
with this but I will be going back to decide what to do - if anyone 
has any ideas then please let me know.

Wands - few new messages on this so it should be up in the next week 
(so don't go and annoy me and start some discussion on this subject! 
<vbg>).

Animal Characters - slightly more to update (almost all on 
Crookshanks and whether or not he is an animagi - do we care?), but 
should be as for Wands.

Weasley - lots to do but hopefully will not take to long as much of 
it is fairly simple. The major headache will be on this age stuff as 
I want to do a full rewrite.

Vold - Have this in note form, now just need to type it up into a 
coherent FAQ!

Dursley - Same as for Vold.

Harry - still going through the messages and there are lots of them!



Penny mentioned about the end of January for completing the FAQ's. 
This sounds reasonable to me  - just have to hope that I do not find 
too many distractions (such as the new computer game I got yesterday, 
The Wild Swans that arrived on Tuesday and other silly little things)


Hope things are ok with you all.

Simon




From pennylin at swbell.net  Fri Jan 12 13:53:08 2001
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:53:08 -0600
Subject: Recommended Reading FAQ; HTML & Format; FAQ Updates
References: <93aj9d+hn29@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3A5F0C44.F5CFB13C@swbell.net>

Hi --

OTHER READING FAQ: Thanks ever so much Voicelady!  I just looked at your
FAQ, and it's set up exactly as I envisioned it.  I think it's very
user-friendly & comprehensive.  The only thing I wondered (and it's a
question): should we asterisk Peg Kerr's name & indicate that she's a
member of the group??  I suppose we should definitely ask her first in
any case.

If you want to do any of the other "open" FAQs, just say the word,
okay?  <g>

VFAQs -- Neil, this also looks great!  The only thing I spotted was that
the ancestor/descendant VFAQ should cross-reference the Mysteries FAQ as
well.  I at least regard it as still a Mystery since Jo said it should
be corrected and yet it's inexplicably not corrected in later versions.

BRITISH EDUCATION FAQ -- I'm glad John will do this for us -- it's
probably deserving of a whole FAQ & should take care of some newbie
questions (as well as questions that arise in the course of all
discussions for that matter).

MISSING FAQ -- one other FAQ that I continue to keep forgetting should
be added to the "open" list is a character FAQ on Peter Pettigrew.  We
should at least add it to the index & offer all the "open" FAQs up to
the general membership to author if none of us feel up to the task.  I
think though that we should focus on getting all of our assigned FAQs
done & uploaded first.  The completed ones can then serve as a guideline
for anyone considering writing one of the remaining FAQs.

HTML & FORMATTING FAQs -- Paul, we're definitely still hoping you'll
help with this process!  Glad to hear you're still around.  We're
getting going again, so please check in periodically.  Voicelady was
just asking about how to format her one FAQ -- I don't *think* she was
volunteering to format & HTML all the FAQs!  <g>

UPDATES:  Thanks to Simon for his updates.  It sounds as though you're
about where I am with this task!  <g>  Here's my brief update.  I hope
to finish combing through Hermione messages today.  I will then write
the FAQ up formally next week when I return.  I will then immediately
turn to the Mysteries FAQ -- I intend to knock this one out asap too.
This leaves me with only Hogwarts, and once there is only one FAQ left,
hopefully I will be motivated to get it wrapped up quickly.  I confess
I'm beginning to feel some pressure to get this done quickly (my part
that is) .... just in case baby makes an early appearance.

Sometime before next week, could you all let me know which FAQs that are
uploaded are ready to be edited and HTML'd?   Once I finish Hermione, I
may go ahead & start the editing of any others that are ready to go.

Of course, this also means we've got to make a decision soon about
*where* these are being uploaded!

Penny



voicelady at mymailstation.com wrote:

> Hi all - I recently volunteered to take care of this FAQ (since I
> seem to recall being a major contributor to this thread the several
> times it came up), and I have a few questions regarding formatting.
>
> I've spent the past couple of days reading all of the posts here, but
> couldn't quite nail down any type of rules.  Is there a set font,
> size, etc?  I was going to set up a table listing the title, author,
> brief sentence synopsis (if that's at all possible/available).  Does
> this sound okay?
>
> Jeralyn
>
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From pennylin at swbell.net  Fri Jan 12 13:55:04 2001
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:55:04 -0600
Subject: FAQ Site question
References: <5.0.0.25.0.20010110003018.00a72488@postoffice.swbell.net>
Message-ID: <3A5F0CB8.3736425@swbell.net>

Hi --

"Paul M. Kippes" wrote:

> Does anyone have any feel for how these pages are to be formatted
> (with
> respect to header and footer) and linked together?  There are easy
> mechanisms to add common headers and footers to web pages and I could
> easily start work in that area since it is independent of content.
>
> What I had in mind was an arrangement like the following on a non-main
> page
>
>
> [Small Graphic header suggesting main FAQ page]
> [text links back to main Lexicon page and our main FAQ page]
> [FAQ contents]
> [copyright, last updated, report errors here (All text)]

This all looks good to me.  Did we decide if it's possible for us to use
the "official" HP font for the titles of the FAQs?

Penny

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From voicelady at mymailstation.com  Fri Jan 12 14:21:18 2001
From: voicelady at mymailstation.com (Jeralyn )
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:21:18 -0000
Subject: Recommended Reading FAQ; HTML & Format; FAQ Updates
In-Reply-To: <3A5F0C44.F5CFB13C@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <93n3su+eemr@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer 
<pennylin at s...> wrote:
> Hi --
> 
> OTHER READING FAQ: [snip]The only thing I wondered (and it's a 
question): should we asterisk Peg Kerr's name & indicate that she's a 
member of the group??  I suppose we should definitely ask her first 
in any case.

Yeah, I thought about this, but wasn't sure.  You're right, though; 
let me email her offlist and see if it's okay with her.

> HTML & FORMATTING FAQs -- [snip] Voicelady was just asking about 
how to format her one FAQ -- I don't *think* she was volunteering to 
format & HTML all the FAQs!  <g>

Well, at the time, I *wasn't* volunteering.  But now, heck, we've got 
Windows Millenium at home, and it's a simple matter of doing a "save 
as html".  So once we've decided on the *word* formatting and 
everybody's on the same page, it would be an easy matter for me to 
html-ize everyone's FAQs and re-upload them to our files section.




From HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com  Fri Jan 12 15:07:42 2001
From: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com (HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com)
Date: 12 Jan 2001 15:07:42 -0000
Subject: New file uploaded to HP4GU-FAQ 
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From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Fri Jan 12 15:10:50 2001
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:10:50 -0000
Subject: Wand FAQ
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINOELGCPAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

Hello

I have just uploaded the Wand FAQ:
http://www.egroups.com/files/HP4GU-FAQ/FAQs/wands.doc

If people can take a look and comment on if I have missed anything out or if
you think I am biased on a subject then I will update as needed.


Simon

PS: Neil - You have started to keep a copy of the chapter summaries done on
the main group. Shall I delete the one here (FAQ group) as it is no longer
needed?




From pennylin at swbell.net  Fri Jan 12 16:18:14 2001
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:18:14 -0600
Subject: [Fwd: font answer]
Message-ID: <3A5F2E46.7EDE966A@swbell.net>

Our lawyer has spoken .....
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From john at walton.to  Fri Jan 12 20:27:23 2001
From: john at walton.to (John Walton)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:27:23 +0000
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] [Fwd: font answer]
In-Reply-To: <3A5F2E46.7EDE966A@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <B6850E29.A09B%john@walton.to>

Want me to comb through my font resources online and see if I can find one
that evokes magic? Or evokes some other feeling?

--John

Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer wrote:

> Our lawyer has spoken .....
> 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com
> 
> 
> 
> From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu
> Date: Friday, January 12, 2001 4:04 PM
> To: pennylin at swbell.net
> Subject: font answer
> 
> You asked "Did we decide if it's possible for us
> to use the "official" HP font for the titles of the FAQs?"
> 
> I must've missed this! Sorry!
> We can't. WB or Scholastic has a copyright in the font, even if they
> don't have a registration and I just don't want to tempt fate on this
> (sorry!)
> 
> feel free to forward this to the list - I'm having posting issues,
> given that I'm in *orlando* today
> 
> 

========================================
John Walton     john at walton.to

One Person, One Vote (may not apply in certain states)
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From pennylin at swbell.net  Fri Jan 12 20:31:19 2001
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:31:19 -0600
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] [Fwd: font answer]
References: <B6850E29.A09B%john@walton.to>
Message-ID: <3A5F6997.DB9EEB09@swbell.net>

Hi --

John Walton wrote:

> Want me to comb through my font resources online and see if I can find
> one that evokes magic? Or evokes some other feeling?

Sounds great!

Penny

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From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Fri Jan 12 20:34:16 2001
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:34:16 -0000
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Missing FAQs
References: <93aj9d+hn29@eGroups.com> <3A5F0C44.F5CFB13C@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <004601c07cd7$4dc2d180$1b3570c2@c5s910j>

Penny wrote:

MISSING FAQ -- one other FAQ that I continue to keep forgetting should be added to the "open" list is a character FAQ on Peter Pettigrew.  We should at least add it to the index & offer all the "open" FAQs up to the general membership to author if none of us feel up to the task.  I think though that we should focus on getting all of our assigned FAQs done & uploaded first.  The completed ones can then serve as a guideline for anyone considering writing one of the remaining FAQs. 

I don't think we have a Neville Longbottom FAQ either.  There has been more on him that some of the minor FAQ topics... should we throw him in there?


Neil

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From pennylin at swbell.net  Sat Jan 13 00:37:46 2001
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:37:46 -0600
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Missing FAQs
References: <93aj9d+hn29@eGroups.com> <3A5F0C44.F5CFB13C@swbell.net> <004601c07cd7$4dc2d180$1b3570c2@c5s910j>
Message-ID: <3A5FA35A.A459F893@swbell.net>

Hi --

Yeah, I suppose we do need to have a Neville FAQ.  I hadn't realized
that one was missing either.  Okay, let's add those 2 to the "open"
list.  Okay, I just did that, and I added "British Education System" by
John.  I also changed to indicate that Jeralyn did "Other Recommended
Reading."  And, I changed it so that it reads that I am doing Houses of
Hogwarts instead of Melanie.  In other words, it's pretty well updated.

Penny

Neil Ward wrote:

> Penny wrote: MISSING FAQ -- one other FAQ that I continue to keep
> forgetting should be added to the "open" list is a character FAQ on
> Peter Pettigrew.  We should at least add it to the index & offer all
> the "open" FAQs up to the general membership to author if none of us
> feel up to the task.  I think though that we should focus on getting
> all of our assigned FAQs done & uploaded first.  The completed ones
> can then serve as a guideline for anyone considering writing one of
> the remaining FAQs. I don't think we have a Neville Longbottom FAQ
> either.  There has been more on him that some of the minor FAQ
> topics... should we throw him in there?  Neil
>
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From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Sat Jan 13 01:07:36 2001
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 01:07:36 -0000
Subject: New members
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINKEMDCPAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

I am not sure this is quite the correct place to make this comment, but am
going to do anyway.

I think quite a few people have been reading the salon.com (also on cnn)
article. The group membership has gone up by over 30 in the last 12 hours
(it was 600 at lunch time for me and is now over 630). Hopefully we will not
have the same problems that occurred when our yahoo membership jumped
suddenly after promotion on the clubs page there.


I just thought that people, especially the moderators, would be interested.


Simon (whose had found a new distraction - trying to write fanfiction!)




From pennylin at swbell.net  Sat Jan 13 01:33:21 2001
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 19:33:21 -0600
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] New members
References: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINKEMDCPAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <3A5FB061.7E71F826@swbell.net>

Hi there:

Simon -- I noticed the same jump and came to the same conclusion you
did.  There's a CNN article?  I only knew about salon.com.  I will go
give it a look.

The moderators are on top of it.  John is going to send out a welcome
message to everyone as a preemptive strike.

Hey -- can't wait to read your fanfic efforts Simon!  Keep us posted --

Penny

Simon wrote:

> I am not sure this is quite the correct place to make this comment,
> but am
> going to do anyway.
>
> I think quite a few people have been reading the salon.com (also on
> cnn)
> article. The group membership has gone up by over 30 in the last 12
> hours
> (it was 600 at lunch time for me and is now over 630). Hopefully we
> will not
> have the same problems that occurred when our yahoo membership jumped
> suddenly after promotion on the clubs page there.
>
>
> I just thought that people, especially the moderators, would be
> interested.
>
>
> Simon (whose had found a new distraction - trying to write
> fanfiction!)
>
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From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Sat Jan 13 11:00:59 2001
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 11:00:59 -0000
Subject: Members
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINAEMMCPAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

Penny wrote: "Simon -- I noticed the same jump and came to the same
conclusion you did.  There's a CNN article?  I only knew about salon.com.  I
will go give it a look.
The moderators are on top of it.  John is going to send out a welcome
message to everyone as a preemptive strike."

Someone, Steve I think, mentioned about the cnn article - I think it is just
the salon.com one in a different place.
I wasn't sure if you knew about the membership jump, so decided it would be
a good idea to let the moderators know. I was basically guessing that
something along the idea of the message that John sent would be a good
idea - but thought it would look better coming from one of the moderators
rather than from myself as a normal person.


Penny wrote: "Hey -- can't wait to read your fanfic efforts Simon!  Keep us
posted"

And here was me thinking you would be encouraging me to get on with the
FAQ's and ignore fanfic - <vbg>.
I have written the first third of an opening chapter / prologue, but will
let people know when I finally get round to posting it. I am writing a first
person fic, from the PoV of Ron, based after the end of GoF (it starts on
the train home). At the moment it is lacking anything resembling a long-term
plot - I have a few ideas I want to chuck into the story at various points,
I just have to work out where and how the story goes.


Simon (still upset at learning that he is only 33% obsessive concerning
Harry Potter after taking that test someone posted earlier)





From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Sat Jan 13 11:34:03 2001
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Flying Ford Anglia)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 11:34:03 -0000
Subject: New moderators here
Message-ID: <93pefb+rust@eGroups.com>

Hi all,

Just to let you know that Penny made me a Moderator for this group 
before she sent away for the weekend and I have made Heidi and Simon 
moderators as well, since the four of us are covering the bulk of the 
FAQs.  

With Melanie not around, we need to have at least one person among us 
who has access to the admin stuff if Penny is tied up with the baby.  

Neil





From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Sat Jan 13 12:09:01 2001
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 12:09:01 -0000
Subject: Animal Characters FAQ
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINIEMNCPAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

Hello all,

I have just uploaded the Animal Characters FAQ:
http://www.egroups.com/files/HP4GU-FAQ/FAQs/animals.doc

As before questions / comments on what I have, and what I may have missed
out, are greatly appreciated.


Simon




From lrcjestes at earthlink.net  Sat Jan 13 13:32:01 2001
From: lrcjestes at earthlink.net (Carole Estes)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 08:32:01 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Weekly discussions (admin)...volunteers please!
References: <00b901c07d4a$9bda49c0$313370c2@c5s910j>
Message-ID: <006a01c07d65$be8c2b80$207cd63f@oemcomputer>


----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil Ward" <neilward at dircon.co.uk>

Simon Branford has asked if someone else could do the summaries for the week
beginning Jan 22nd, as he is busy with the FAQ summaries and opening
supermarkets as fanfic's infamous Dr Branford, so we are looking for
volunteers to do one or both of these.  They are Chapter 27, "Padfoot
Returns" and a sketch of Peter Pettigrew.  I'll explain the ins and outs to
any volunteers who aren't familar with the discussions, so don't hold back!
E-mail me off-list.

********************
I'll do The chapter summary if you haven't gotten another volunteer yet.

carole








From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Sat Jan 13 15:06:48 2001
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Flying Ford Anglia)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 15:06:48 -0000
Subject: Weekly discussions (admin)...volunteers please!
In-Reply-To: <006a01c07d65$be8c2b80$207cd63f@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <93pqu8+i5m7@eGroups.com>

I did post to the wrong group to post to originally!  I picked the 
wrong e-mail address...

Sorry

Neil






From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu  Sun Jan 14 00:08:42 2001
From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 00:08:42 -0000
Subject: New Member
Message-ID: <93qqma+3r0v@eGroups.com>

Hi - I've just joined the group -- thanks for inviting me.

Y'all have a lot of stuff here, and it will take me a little time to 
become oriented. I'll be happy to beta-read and contribute whatever 
odd facts that I happen to know. I might also be able to work on the 
International Book Covers FAQ if no one else has claimed it.

I have some questions and suggestions, but I will skim the message 
archive before posting them. I don't suppose that there is an FAQ^2 
[FAQs about the FAQ group]?

-Jim Flanagan




From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu  Sun Jan 14 05:08:29 2001
From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 05:08:29 -0000
Subject: Animal Characters FAQ
In-Reply-To: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINIEMNCPAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <93rc8d+rpc6@eGroups.com>

I've posted a file with redlined comments and additions to Simon's 
Animals FAQ at the following URL:

http://www.egroups.com/files/HP4GU-FAQ/FAQs/animals1.doc

Simon's original is still there.

-Jim Flanagan



--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "Simon" <simon.branford at h...> wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I have just uploaded the Animal Characters FAQ:
> http://www.egroups.com/files/HP4GU-FAQ/FAQs/animals.doc
> 
> As before questions / comments on what I have, and what I may have 
missed
> out, are greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
> Simon




From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Sun Jan 14 07:53:53 2001
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 07:53:53 -0000
Subject: Fanfiction
Message-ID: <003801c07dff$25dc4920$5e3570c2@c5s910j>

You'll probably notice that I created a Database for fanfic recommendations in response to Catlady's post.  Penny, you might find this useful for the Fanfic FAQ?

Jeralyn - FYI, did you notice that there is a Database for recommended reading as well?  I don't know if you looked at this when you were doing the FAQ.

Neil

_____________________________________

Flying-Ford-Anglia

"Ron, full of turkey and cake and with nothing 
mysterious to bother him, fell asleep almost 
as soon as he'd drawn the curtains of his
four-poster."

[Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone]

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From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Sun Jan 14 09:17:51 2001
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 09:17:51 -0000
Subject: Animal Characters FAQ
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINGENOCPAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

Jim wrote: "I've posted a file with redlined comments and additions to
Simon's Animals FAQ at the following URL:"

Looking through the list of animals etc. that is suggested I have a couple
of comments:
The first five I obviously need to add in.
The magical creatures are (I believe) in the Mythology & Magical Creatures
FAQ.
The animagi are in some other FAQ - Peter is mentioned quickly in my FAQ as
he spends two and a half book as a animal character, but it is a link onto
his own FAQ.

The comments / questions are very helpful and I should get the next version
uploaded later (just have to find a few quotes first, once I get back from
Church and have had lunch).


Simon




From HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com  Sun Jan 14 14:36:24 2001
From: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com (HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com)
Date: 14 Jan 2001 14:36:24 -0000
Subject: New file uploaded to HP4GU-FAQ 
Message-ID: <979482984.15229@egroups.com>


Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the HP4GU-FAQ 
group.

  File        : /FAQs/animals.doc 
  Uploaded by : simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk 
  Description : Animal Characters FAQ (updated to message 9228 and includes a few improvements) 

You can access this file at the URL

http://www.egroups.com/files/HP4GU-FAQ/FAQs/animals%2Edoc 

To learn more about eGroups file sharing, please visit

http://www.egroups.com/help/files.html


Regards,

simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk
 






From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu  Sun Jan 14 18:25:23 2001
From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 18:25:23 -0000
Subject: Recommended Reading FAQ
In-Reply-To: <3A5F0C44.F5CFB13C@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <93squj+mkos@eGroups.com>

Comments on the rec reading FAQ:  First, it represents a lot of 
work.  Nice Job!

Second, the introduction is written in the first person singular 
("I").  It either needs to be signed by the author or changed so that 
it does not reflect the point of view of a single person (e.g., 
passive voice). 

Here's a contribution for the list:

The Worm Ouroboros trilogy
by E. R. Eddison
"Witches, imps, elves, and manticores on the planet Mercury.  Oddly 
Victorian, Eddison's writing is an acquired taste."




From voicelady at mymailstation.com  Mon Jan 15 17:08:45 2001
From: voicelady at mymailstation.com (Jeralyn )
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 17:08:45 -0000
Subject: Recommended Reading FAQ
In-Reply-To: <93squj+mkos@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <93vaqt+u7r1@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "Jim Flanagan" <jamesf at a...> wrote:
> Second, the introduction is written in the first person singular 
("I").  It either needs to be signed by the author or changed so that 
it does not reflect the point of view of a single person (e.g., 
passive voice). 

Jim -
 Thanks for your input.  I re-read the opening paragraph, and decided 
that I liked it too much to change it, so I added a note at the 
bottom of the page indicating that I had written it.  I also included 
your recommendation, along with 2 new ones that came in this past 
week. I've updated, and I'm going to reload it into our file section.

Thanks again.

Jeralyn




From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Tue Jan 16 01:29:03 2001
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 01:29:03 -0000
Subject: Members and other stuff
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINGEADDAAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

So it was a couple of days ago I was mentioning that we had hit 600 members
and now I notice that we have shot past the number of members PoU has (689)
and now have 700 (nearly wrote 7000!).

The Weasley family FAQ is nearly done. I have about 30 minutes typing to do
before I can upload it. However that is going to have to wait until
tomorrow.

I have had far too many distractions today. I seem to have spent the whole
day reading and replying to e-mails.

I have lectures to attend tomorrow and think it would best to be awake for
them!

The main point of this message was to say that my e-mail seems to be messing
around. Messages I have been sending to eGroups have been taking 30 minutes,
or more, to get there and this is probably the case for all my outgoing
messages. I think it is a problem with the servers at my end. So if any
problems occur originating from my e-mail account then let me know (incoming
mail seems fine).

Simon




From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu  Tue Jan 16 13:12:33 2001
From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:12:33 -0000
Subject: Now What?
Message-ID: <941hc1+lr3c@eGroups.com>

Have y'all found a good way to capture good threads for the FAQs?
The main group has several excellent threads going on discussing 
various mysteries in GOF. Several lists of recommended books have 
also appeared. I wish I could help capture some of these, but it 
could become a full-time job, and I'm only 50% compulsive (though I 
should get extra credit for reading SS AND PS AND Ecole des Sorciers).

-Jim




From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Tue Jan 16 13:21:23 2001
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:21:23 -0000
Subject: Messages
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINGEBCDAAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

Jim wrote: "Have y'all found a good way to capture good threads for the
FAQs? The main group has several excellent threads going on discussing
various mysteries in GOF. Several lists of recommended books have also
appeared. I wish I could help capture some of these, but it could become a
full-time job, and I'm only 50% compulsive (though I should get extra credit
for reading SS AND PS AND Ecole des Sorciers)."

I don't even make 50% obsessive!

I use the hammer to crack a nut approach and read through all the messages
to find the ones for my FAQ's (having already read them through to see if I
want to reply to any messages).

Have updated the wand FAQ (only a small minor thing) and uploaded it.

Working on Voldemort and Weasley, then moving onto Dursley. Not much left to
do on any of these.

Unfortunately lectures are about to get in the way.


Simon




From voicelady at mymailstation.com  Tue Jan 16 14:04:39 2001
From: voicelady at mymailstation.com (Jeralyn)
Date: 16 Jan 2001 06:04:39 -0800
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Now What?
Message-ID: <20010116140439.11195.cpmta@c016.sfo.cp.net>

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From: voicelady at mymailstation.com (Jeralyn)
Date: 16 Jan 2001 06:43:34 -0800
Subject: My FAQ
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From: voicelady at mymailstation.com (Jeralyn)
Date: 16 Jan 2001 06:43:34 -0800
Subject: My FAQ
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From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Tue Jan 16 18:52:23 2001
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Flying Ford Anglia)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:52:23 -0000
Subject: Now What?
In-Reply-To: <941hc1+lr3c@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <942597+kvm2@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, "Jim Flanagan" <jamesf at a...> wrote:
> Have y'all found a good way to capture good threads for the FAQs?
> The main group has several excellent threads going on discussing 
> various mysteries in GOF. Several lists of recommended books have 
> also appeared. I wish I could help capture some of these, but it 
> could become a full-time job, and I'm only 50% compulsive (though I 
> should get extra credit for reading SS AND PS AND Ecole des 
Sorciers).
> 
?	-Jim


I have Microsoft Outlook Express set up to filter all incoming HP e-
mails into one Directory and I also have a Directory for each of the 
topics I'm covering.  Periodically, I use the titles alone to move 
things into the relevant Directories.  Then I go back and use `Find' 
to pull out anything else of relevance and move it to the relevant 
Directories.  I also go through the HP `In Box' and delete anything 
that's not relevant, and then I might look through what's left to see 
if I've missed anything useful.

At the moment, it's like trying to dig out of a perpetual avalanche 
with a spoon, so I can't really think about anything other than the 
FAQs I'm doing.  The best we can do is enlist as much help as we can 
in all areas and divide the maintenance up between people.  I have no 
intention of maintaining 10 FAQs!!!

Some of my friends have decided I must be writing a book (I've often 
said I would), as they haven't seen me for weeks.  They think I'm 
bonkers for doing this (except one, who is an HP convert ? hurray!)

I have the French version of Book 1 as well, but my French isn't very 
good.  I like to look at the cover...

Neil 





From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Tue Jan 16 21:28:05 2001
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:28:05 -0000
Subject: VFAQ
Message-ID: <002c01c08003$37142c20$843470c2@c5s910j>

I think I'll add "What is a shipper?" to the VFAQ (or RFAQ).

:-)

Neil
_____________________________________

Flying-Ford-Anglia

"Ron, full of turkey and cake and with nothing 
mysterious to bother him, fell asleep almost 
as soon as he'd drawn the curtains of his
four-poster."

[Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone]

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From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Tue Jan 16 22:02:19 2001
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 22:02:19 -0000
Subject: FW: [HPforGrownups] What is a shipper?
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINEECJDAAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

Please tell me this question is going to be answered in one of the FAQ's.

Simon

-----Original Message-----
From: steven.holzman [mailto:smholz at paonline.com]
Sent: 16 January 2001 21:00
To: HPforGrownups at egroups.com
Subject: [HPforGrownups] What is a shipper?

I'm new to the list (I joined after seeing the article on CNN.com) and have
been enjoying the information/observations/opinions on the HP books.

However, I must know - what is a shipper?

I hope this isn't the hundredth time for this question, but I'm probably not
the only one wondering if there are other new folks on the list.

Thanks!

Steve Holzman
smholz at paonline.com

To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Tue Jan 16 23:08:33 2001
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:08:33 -0000
Subject: messages
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINMECMDAAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

Assuming this message ever gets to its destination - at the moment mine
messages seem to be being delayed by up to an hour - how annoying.

Neil wrote: "At the moment, it's like trying to dig out of a perpetual
avalanche with a spoon, so I can't really think about anything other than
the FAQs I'm doing.  The best we can do is enlist as much help as we can in
all areas and divide the maintenance up between people.  I have no intention
of maintaining 10 FAQs!!!

Some of my friends have decided I must be writing a book (I've often said I
would), as they haven't seen me for weeks.  They think I'm bonkers for doing
this (except one, who is an HP convert - hurray!)"

None of my friends know I am this HP obsessed! They just think I am sitting
in front of my computer for the fun of it and playing games.

I think we will need lots of help for the maintenance of the FAQ's. When I
mine finished then I would prefer it if I can take a back seat. Be involved
but not at all actively. I have finals next term and still no idea of what I
will be doing from July for the rest of my life. So as I see it, once I have
finished the FAQ's that I am doing I will have to call it a day on
continuing involvement with the FAQ's, at least until I know what I plan to
do next year (when I may be able to take up FAQing again).

I am about to start FAQing for the evening - I keep getting distracted
(round robin story of hpfanfiction and friends keep popping in to say hi).


Simon




From kippesp at swbell.net  Tue Jan 16 23:54:28 2001
From: kippesp at swbell.net (Paul M. Kippes)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:54:28 -0600
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Now What?
In-Reply-To: <941hc1+lr3c@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20010116175232.00abb960@postoffice.swbell.net>

At 01:12 PM 1/16/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>Have y'all found a good way to capture good threads for the FAQs?
>The main group has several excellent threads going on discussing
>various mysteries in GOF. Several lists of recommended books have
>also appeared. I wish I could help capture some of these, but it
>could become a full-time job, and I'm only 50% compulsive (though I
>should get extra credit for reading SS AND PS AND Ecole des Sorciers).
I worked on this several months ago on producing an output file similar to 
what I created for the original Yahoo! group.  But I put off finishing the 
effort when Yahoo! took over E-groups.  Partly out of concern that the 
interface/login method may change.  Perhaps now that there is a need, I'll 
work to finish this.

Paul




From kippesp at swbell.net  Tue Jan 16 23:56:58 2001
From: kippesp at swbell.net (Paul M. Kippes)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:56:58 -0600
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Now What?
In-Reply-To: <942597+kvm2@eGroups.com>
References: <941hc1+lr3c@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20010116175556.00aa9aa8@postoffice.swbell.net>

At 06:52 PM 1/16/2001 +0000, Neil wrote:

>I have Microsoft Outlook Express set up to filter all incoming HP e-
>mails into one Directory and I also have a Directory for each of the
>topics I'm covering.  Periodically, I use the titles alone to move
>things into the relevant Directories.  Then I go back and use `Find'
>to pull out anything else of relevance and move it to the relevant
>Directories.  I also go through the HP `In Box' and delete anything
>that's not relevant, and then I might look through what's left to see
>if I've missed anything useful.
This is what I've done as well.  Works much better than the slow web 
interface with the horrible search feature.




From pennylin at swbell.net  Wed Jan 17 18:50:56 2001
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:50:56 -0600
Subject: I'm back & weighing in on various things ....
References: <93mp30+373l@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3A65E990.67E8BDAF@swbell.net>

Hi everyone --

simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk wrote:

> And talking of graphic are we going to need a logo as well. A while
> back myself, and anotehr group member, drew a few possible logos
> (which are now stored somewhere in our files section). If so do we
> want to tell the group so that others have a chance to design a logo
> and then the best is chosen? Or should we just pick from those
> already done? Or do we as the FAQ group pick one?

It actually seems to me that it might be fun to open it up & let anyone
who cares to submit a logo design.  Then, we could set up a poll to
tabulate the results.  It seems more democratic to let everyone (rather
than just the FAQs Committee or the Moderators) decide.  Thoughts?  We
should have a firm deadline though .... as I *really* want to start
uploading these soon.  <g>

> Predictions (for books 5, 6 and 7) - at the moment I have given up
> with this but I will be going back to decide what to do - if anyone
> has any ideas then please let me know.

With Book 5 so far away, I wouldn't object if we wanted to table this
one for awhile.  I know there were a few threads in July with some vague
predictions for Book 5, right after everyone finished GoF.  And, of
course, the death "polls" belong in this one I suppose.  That's really
the only thing I can think of that's been predicted for the latter 3
books, and it's hard to separate most of the death predictions into
books.  Clearly eggplant's persistent predictions that Harry will die
belong in Book 7 since he clearly can't die before then.  <g>  Other
predicted deaths could be any of the last 3 books though.  Maybe just a
general "Predictions" FAQ??

> Weasley - lots to do but hopefully will not take to long as much of
> it is fairly simple. The major headache will be on this age stuff as
> I want to do a full rewrite.

I sympathize.  But, we've left that one in the capable hands of a
mathematician -- who better to handle the Weasley age gap issue?  :--)

> Penny mentioned about the end of January for completing the FAQ's.

This is really more my deadline for myself to be honest.  I'd rather not
stray too far into Feb just in case of any complications or early
arrivals.  So, I'm trying to set myself some firm deadlines.  I also
have some professional writing obligations that are going to eat alot
more of my time in Feb than at present.  So ... onward with the FAQs I
say!

> The Wild Swans that arrived on Tuesday

Don't blame you a bit if you take time out for that one -- it's a
*great* read!

> From Jim Flanagan: Y'all have a lot of stuff here, and it will take me a little time to
> become oriented. I'll be happy to beta-read and contribute whatever
> odd facts that I happen to know. I might also be able to work on the
> International Book Covers FAQ if no one else has claimed it.
>
Noone has claimed International Book Covers -- Skimmel was originally to
have done it.  But, Skimmel is AWOL just like Melanie.  So, I'd be happy
to put your name on it Jim.  Beta-reading all the FAQ drafts that have
been uploaded would be greatly appreciated!  I have uploaded mostly
up-to-date drafts of 6 FAQs and hope to upload a draft of Hermione in
the next couple of days.

> Have y'all found a good way to capture good threads for the FAQs?
> The main group has several excellent threads going on discussing
> various mysteries in GOF. Several lists of recommended books have
> also appeared. I wish I could help capture some of these, but it
> could become a full-time job, and I'm only 50% compulsive (though I
> should get extra credit for reading SS AND PS AND Ecole des Sorciers)
>
I wish that I'd employed the Heidi method from the get-go.  She's been
sliding relevant messages into various folders in her email inbox.  I've
just now created a system to do this.  I'm not sure how long Neil has
been doing this, but it does seem to be the most efficient way to handle
it.  For the initial drafts, I'm afraid I've been stuck with the method
that Simon described.  For example, with Hermione, I typed in "Hermione"
& have sifted through all the messages (an enormous task!).  Of course,
lots of messages I could tell by the subject line were not going to be
relevant to my character FAQ for Hermione & so I could skip them.  But,
lots of times I did end up opening a message & finding that there was
only a stray reference to Hermione.  The search feature has some
problems in this regard.  But, on the whole, it does work alot better
than having nothing (which is where we were with Yahoo).

I'm hoping to devote significant time to the FAQs the next several
weeks.  We do need to discuss where they are being uploaded soon
(Lexicon site or separate website).  Does anyone have any comments on
the Table of Contents (or Index) that I uploaded a few weeks ago?  Does
it seem a reasonable structure?  If so, maybe Paul could start setting
up the initial webpage??  (I know nothing about what's involved or what
he might need to get started).

We should decide about the logo soon too.

Penny


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From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Wed Jan 17 19:32:06 2001
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 19:32:06 -0000
Subject: stuff
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINOEEKDAAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

Penny wrote: "It actually seems to me that it might be fun to open it up &
let anyone who cares to submit a logo design.  Then, we could set up a poll
to tabulate the results.  It seems more democratic to let everyone (rather
than just the FAQs Committee or the Moderators) decide.  Thoughts?  We
should have a firm deadline though .... as I *really* want to start
uploading these soon."

Well first we have to let eGroups sort out the current problem.
As I see it a fortnight for people to design logos is plenty of time. I
produced my two in about 1 hour while and just after one of the Sunday
chats. So it does not take much time. We should probably agree on a maximum
size for the files (in pixels). We do not want the logos to be too large and
it is not that effective to reduce them in size afterwards.
After this I see another fortnight, at most, for voting time. Most people
who want to vote will do so in this length of time - especially if we plug
it quite well.


Penny wrote: "With Book 5 so far away, I wouldn't object if we wanted to
table this one for awhile.  <snip>  Maybe just a general "Predictions"
FAQ??"

I am writing a general predictions FAQ. I will probably go with the option
of putting this off until after I have finished the rest and then can
dedicate my time to searching the messages for predictions.


Penny wrote: "I sympathize.  But, we've left that one in the capable hands
of a mathematician -- who better to handle the Weasley age gap issue?  :--)"

The age thing went fairly ok. I decided in the end to split it into the two
possibilities (I hope there are only two - one has Charlie at 19 and Bill at
20 the other has Charlie at 23 and Bill at 24 with ages based at the
beginning of PS/SS) and then I outlined reasons for and against each.

I have completed notes (on the few updates I need to do) for this, the
Voldemort and Dursley FAQ's. I have not had much time in the last couple of
days, but hopefully will find time this evening and tomorrow to type them up
and then upload.


Penny wrote: "This is really more my deadline for myself to be honest.  I'd
rather not stray too far into Feb just in case of any complications or early
arrivals.  So, I'm trying to set myself some firm deadlines.  I also have
some professional writing obligations that are going to eat alot more of my
time in Feb than at present.  So ... onward with the FAQs I say!"

I really want to get them done before my work really kicks in properly. I
will start revising in March and want to have the FAQ's done and dusted by
then. Otherwise I will just run out of time.


Penny wrote: "For the initial drafts, I'm afraid I've been stuck with the
method that Simon described.  For example, with Hermione, I typed in
"Hermione" & have sifted through all the messages (an enormous task!).  Of
course, lots of messages I could tell by the subject line were not going to
be relevant to my character FAQ for Hermione & so I could skip them.  But,
lots of times I did end up opening a message & finding that there was only a
stray reference to Hermione.  The search feature has some problems in this
regard."

I put the messages onto expanded review and then find the ones for all my
FAQ's. Basically this means I simultaneously work on all the FAQ's at once -
which is why prediction messages have been missed (an oversight on my
part!). Typing Harry in the search brings up so many messages that I have
found it easier to just skim read all - it is much faster than searching and
then opening the appropriate messages (especially as eGroups is seeming
quite slow at the moment). You would have thought he is the main character
with the number of messages I have found about him! <VBG>


I think I am done now!

Simon




From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Wed Jan 17 20:29:23 2001
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:29:23 -0000
Subject: [HPfGU-Mod] Re: Message glitch
References: <20010117190601.7706.cpmta@c016.sfo.cp.net>
Message-ID: <017401c080c4$2e853100$043570c2@c5s910j>

Jeralyn said (in the Moderators group) :

> Maybe we should start archiving the messages again.  How *did* we do that,
btw?

I was going to suggest the same thing.

Paul Kippes created the Archives eGroup and I believe he wrote a clever
program to convert all the messages.  Maybe he would know how to archive 50%
of the present club's messages into yet another eGroups club.
Theoretically, it should be an easier task, although I wouldn't have the
foggiest idea how to do it <g>

I'll copy this to the FAQ group, as Paul is there (and I'm not sure he's
joined this group).

Paul - is this possible?

Neil
_____________________________________

Flying-Ford-Anglia

"Ron, full of turkey and cake and with nothing
mysterious to bother him, fell asleep almost
as soon as he'd drawn the curtains of his
four-poster."

[Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone]







From pennylin at swbell.net  Wed Jan 17 22:24:18 2001
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:24:18 -0600
Subject: Prescreening Logos
References: <20010117221303.57121.qmail@web9502.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3A661B92.AAB5C0FF@swbell.net>

Hi

Heidi -- I think pre-screening logo submissions is an excellent idea.  We'll put that into the guidelines as well.  Does anyone want to send a message to the group, inviting submissions & setting up guidelines & deadlines & such?  Or should I?  Did Neil
ever figure out what each of us is supposed to be doing?  <g>

BTW, Mike Gray has expressed some interest in helping with the FAQs so I have sent him a message with what's open (and told him we'd be happy for him to take on maintaining as many of them as he'd like!).

Penny

heidi tandy wrote:

> penny - if this doesn't get to the list, please
> forward!
>
> --- Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer <pennylin at swbell.net>
> wrote:
> > It actually seems to me that it might be fun to open
> > it up & let anyone
> > who cares to submit a logo design.  Then, we could
> > set up a poll to
> > tabulate the results.
>
> I like this idea - but there should be a pre-screening
> (by me?) as to whether any of the proposed logos
> violate any scholastic/wb/theUKpublishingcompany
> copyrights or trademarks - I'm not proposing that I do
> full searches, but with my knowledge of the graphics &
> logos they've already used, I should be able to stop
> anything too badly infringing from being voted on...
>
> =====
> heidi tandy
>
> What Maureen Dowd thinks David Souter was thinking on Monday, December 11, 2000: I know the Bushes are furious at me. That'll teach 'em to assume that a guy living like a monk in an isolated New Hampshire farmhouse is some kind of Live Free or Die nut.
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail.
> http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/




From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Thu Jan 18 00:04:41 2001
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 00:04:41 -0000
Subject: Logos
Message-ID: <945bup+u2nq@eGroups.com>

Hello ? I am not a moderator but thought I would send a rough
idea of 
guidelines for the logo stuff, so people know what to do. Comments in 
{} need checking and working on. Apologies if someone else has 
already done this.


Hello All;

For a while now various {crazed?} members of this group have been 
undertaking a project to take the thousands of messages posted to 
this group, and its predecessor on Yahoo, and turn the hundreds of 
topics discussed into a selection of documents on the subject that we 
all love ? that is of course Harry Potter, and all things
connected 
with the books. With every successful group there has to be, and 
needs to be, an eye-catching and instantly recognizable logo. This is 
where we need the help of you, the members of this group.

If you would like to a design a logo to be used in conjunction with 
the FAQs and with other work produced by this group then this is the 
time to act. In a couple of weeks time we will all have the chance to 
partake in the democratic process of voting to choose the logo that 
will be used to represent this group (and no recounts will be 
allowed!). As with all great competitions there are a few rules that 
will need to be met for your logo to be deemed eligible for entry.

1)	The logo must be no greater in size than 250 by 200 pixels. 
{Is this a reasonable size? ? it is slightly wider than my
glasses 
logo: http://www.egroups.com/files/HPforGrownups/Logos/HP.jpg and the 
same height as the sorting hat logo: 
http://www.egroups.com/files/HPforGrownups/Logos/sorting-hat.gif}
2)	Due to legal reasons the moderators reserve the right to deem 
any logo ineligible for the competition {do we need to expand and 
give a reason for this?}. 
3)	Logos must be submitted to: {who? as I have entries for this 
it cannot be me for reasons of impartiality} by 4th February {this 
gives people a little over two weeks} to be deemed eligible.
4)	The entering of a logo into the competition counts as 
acceptance by the entrant that the moderators of the Harry Potter for 
Grown Ups eGroup may use the logo in its complete form {basically I 
want the entrant to pass ownership rights over to the moderators
? 
this needs rewording}.
5)	{Do we limit entries from one person? ? If so how many is 
reasonable? (I am against this but thought I beeter mention it)}
6)	{Have I missed anything?}

We look forward to receiving your entries.

The Moderators and FAQers.





From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 04:09:32 2001
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 04:09:32 -0000
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Prescreening Logos
References: <20010117221303.57121.qmail@web9502.mail.yahoo.com> <3A661B92.AAB5C0FF@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <006101c08104$8c058c40$1d3670c2@c5s910j>

Penny said:

> Heidi -- I think pre-screening logo submissions is an excellent idea.
We'll put that into the guidelines as well.  Does anyone want to send a
message to the group, inviting submissions & setting up guidelines &
deadlines & such?  Or should I?  Did Neil
> ever figure out what each of us is supposed to be doing?  <g>

Penny, did you mean the 'Minutes' I said I'd write for the Moderator group?.
Ooops! I'm really sorry...  I spent some time composing a 'Minutes' message
and somehow hit a button which wiped the lot!  I was too knackered to start
again.  I will try to sum up at some point!

Also, I've been really busy over the last couple of days, so I haven't been
able to do much more than read each day's messages in the evenings.

FAQs:

Re: the FAQS: I expect to be posting Ron Weasley, Magical Devices, Minerva
McGonagall, Quidditch and Character Accents (for reference only) by the
weekend.  Then I'll bite the bullet and start writing up Snape and Spells &
Charms.  I have a sort of deadline as well, as I have another intensive
period at work during February (but I'll have a bit more time at the
beginning of March).   I changed my style part way through to give the FAQs
more of an 'essay' feel.  I'm not sure if that was the right move, but I'm
sticking with it <g>.  I also decided to remove club members' names (with a
few exceptions), which I had in there to begin with.

Moderators:

I started updating Melanie's 'shorthand' web page, adding in a few things,
such as IIRC and OotP.  Someone posted a message asking for acronyms to be
included in one of the FAQs, so I was going to add this ready-made list
(javascript/html) to the Files area as a reference.  However, this seemed a
bit silly when Jim had just deleted some stuff because of the storage
problem!  Could we store the file in the Graphics club, temporarily, and
point to the URL in a message?   IIRC, that club is open access?

I'm sure Melanie wouldn't object to her design and (most of) her wording
being used, but should the file note her involvement?  I'll answer my own
question: just frm the POV of courtesy, we should do that.  Ooooh.  'POV' -
better add that one too!

BTW, I have collected nearly all the messages from the main group, since
25/08/00, but I'm afraid I deleted loads that weren't relevant to the tasks
in hand.

Neil












From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Thu Jan 18 20:07:22 2001
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:07:22 -0000
Subject: Weasley family and computer problems
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINOEGFDAAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

Hello all;

I have just finished the Weasley family FAQ and uploaded it all. As with my
other FAQs comments, questions, queries and general a pointing to stuff not
covered would be greatly appreciated.
It is to be found at:
http://www.egroups.com/files/HP4GU-FAQ/FAQs/weasley.doc


I have been having computer problems tonight and this is the second time I
have written the last bit of the FAQ. Hopefully I will have no more problems
and will be able to continue onto the other FAQs.


Simon




From pennylin at swbell.net  Thu Jan 18 20:21:18 2001
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:21:18 -0600
Subject: Cross References
Message-ID: <3A67503E.19D3029D@swbell.net>

Hi --

Is there some easy way for me to indicate a cross-reference that should
be linked to another FAQ or is that something that the person HTML'ing
the documents will handle?  Right now, I have See "Potential Romantic
Pairings" for more information on this topic in my Hermione FAQ.
Obviously, we'd want people to be able to click on the phrase Potential
Romantic Pairings & get taken directly to that FAQ.  Is the way I've
done it okay for now or is there some coding that should go in so the
HTML'er will notice it & take care of it?

Penny




From Aberforths_Goat at Yahoo.com  Fri Jan 19 12:05:13 2001
From: Aberforths_Goat at Yahoo.com (Aberforth's Goat)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:05:13 +0100
Subject: Hi to All!
References: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINOEGFDAAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <006f01c08210$182c06c0$5e00a8c0@cablecom.ch>

Just wanted to say hi!

Penny has turned me loose on Neville, Peter and the Differences between
Potters and Voldemort. Looking at the size of the project was a bit of a
shock! And the one rough draft (from Penny) I've read so far was impressive.

This'll be almost as much fun as my MA thesis!

A question: Do we have a deadline on this project? I have a feeling it'll
take me a couple of weeks to work though the relevant files and get my notes
taken. (Many more questions to come ... )

Also: is there any plan for releasing the FAQ in stages, giving priority to
questions that seem to be turning up every 12 hours just now? (I saw
something about a VFAQ ... is that it?)

Baaaaaa!

=:-> (a.k.a. Mike Gray, who promises to be on his very best behavior.)




From kippesp at swbell.net  Fri Jan 19 05:33:31 2001
From: kippesp at swbell.net (Paul M. Kippes)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:33:31 -0600
Subject: Message glitch
In-Reply-To: <017401c080c4$2e853100$043570c2@c5s910j>
References: <20010117190601.7706.cpmta@c016.sfo.cp.net>
Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20010118232401.00a96d40@postoffice.swbell.net>

At 08:29 PM 1/17/2001 +0000, Neil wrote:
>Jeralyn said (in the Moderators group) :
>
> > Maybe we should start archiving the messages again.  How *did* we do that,
>btw?
>
>I was going to suggest the same thing.
>
>Paul Kippes created the Archives eGroup and I believe he wrote a clever
>program to convert all the messages.  Maybe he would know how to archive 50%
>of the present club's messages into yet another eGroups club.
>Theoretically, it should be an easier task, although I wouldn't have the
>foggiest idea how to do it <g>
>
>I'll copy this to the FAQ group, as Paul is there (and I'm not sure he's
>joined this group).
>
>Paul - is this possible?

I've been wondering what that invite was I received so long ago.  I've 
replied so will be able to follow the HPfGU-Mod discussions.

This will actually be a bit more difficult since the HP4GU family of 
eGroups have that pesky login requirement.  BTW, I am all for this.  (Our 
Yahoo! group allowed world access.)  My uncle called me tonight informing 
all the places on the Internet he found my name.  I hate having all my 
miss-typed and silly messages forever etched on corporate hard drives.

But archiving HPforGrownups has been something I've been meaning to get 
finished--I started work on this back in November.  Once that is done, I 
don't see any problem with placing message archives in the current archive 
group.  Of course backing up to the same server doesn't give much 
redundancy--but at least I'll maintain a copy if no one else will.

I will be able to use much of the conversion techniques, but until I work 
out the cookie/login thing it will be only a faint vision.

Paul




From pennylin at swbell.net  Fri Jan 19 12:58:12 2001
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 06:58:12 -0600
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Hi to All!
References: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINOEGFDAAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk> <006f01c08210$182c06c0$5e00a8c0@cablecom.ch>
Message-ID: <3A6839E4.653F1718@swbell.net>

Hi --

Aberforth's Goat wrote:

> Just wanted to say hi!

Welcome Mike!

> Penny has turned me loose on Neville, Peter and the Differences
> between
> Potters and Voldemort. Looking at the size of the project was a bit of
> a
> shock!

Now you know why we keep changing our internal deadlines (it went from
beginning of Oct to end of November to end of Dec to now looking like
mid-to late Feb!).

> A question: Do we have a deadline on this project? I have a feeling
> it'll
> take me a couple of weeks to work though the relevant files and get my
> notes taken. (Many more questions to come ... )

Of course you should have as much time as the rest of us have taken ....
cough .... right, guys?  <g>

> Also: is there any plan for releasing the FAQ in stages, giving
> priority to questions that seem to be turning up every 12 hours just
> now? (I saw
> something about a VFAQ ... is that it?)

Yes!  We are hoping to upload everything that is written ASAP (as in as
soon as we determine where they are being uploaded to & once they've
been edited & HTML'ed).  We will just leave inactive links in the
index/table of contents for FAQs that aren't completed yet.

Any comments on my Index or could Paul begin formatting that for us?  (I
guess we do need to add Pettigrew & Longbottom & British Education
System in as those were recent additions).  I'll make those changes &
then everyone look at it again, okay?

The VFAQ should be uploaded *first* I think.  Or, is it the RFAQ?  Was
that ever determined?

Penny
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From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Fri Jan 19 23:28:00 2001
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 23:28:00 -0000
Subject: FAQ's
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINAEJADAAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

Hello

I have just uploaded the Dursley Family FAQ and the first half of the
Predictions FAQ (by this I mean the bit covering the Yahoo messages - I
still need to write the rest). They can all be found in the files section (I
am to lazy to copy the urls over).

Today seems to have been a little busy over at the group - 160 messages I
believe. I seem to have spent all of my afternoon and evening in front of my
computer FAQing and e-mailing (apart from the hour I spent running and then
recovering from running).

Simon (who is rambling again - waiting for the FAQs to finish uploading)




From Ebonyteach at aol.com  Fri Jan 19 23:48:11 2001
From: Ebonyteach at aol.com (Ebonyteach at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:48:11 EST
Subject: FAQ Index
Message-ID: <7d.fcafe65.279a2c3b@aol.com>

Hello--

Where is the list of FAQs that has the names of those responsible for them?  
I don't see it anywhere on the website, and I think I'm overlooking something.

--Ebony



From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Fri Jan 19 23:52:21 2001
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 23:52:21 -0000
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] FAQ Index
In-Reply-To: <7d.fcafe65.279a2c3b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINCEJBDAAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

It is stored in the database section.

Found at: http://www.egroups.com/database/HP4GU-FAQ?method=reportRows&tbl=3

Simon

-----Original Message-----
From: Ebony
Hello--

Where is the list of FAQs that has the names of those responsible for them?
I don't see it anywhere on the website, and I think I'm overlooking
something.

--Ebony





From HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com  Sun Jan 21 21:09:03 2001
From: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com (HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com)
Date: 21 Jan 2001 21:09:03 -0000
Subject: New file uploaded to HP4GU-FAQ 
Message-ID: <980111343.56245@egroups.com>


Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the HP4GU-FAQ 
group.

  File        : /FAQs/Magical Devices.htm 
  Uploaded by : neilward at dircon.co.uk 
  Description : Magical Devices draft 

You can access this file at the URL

http://www.egroups.com/files/HP4GU-FAQ/FAQs/Magical+Devices%2Ehtm 

To learn more about eGroups file sharing, please visit

http://www.egroups.com/help/files.html


Regards,

neilward at dircon.co.uk
 






From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Sun Jan 21 21:19:49 2001
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Flying Ford Anglia)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:19:49 -0000
Subject: Magical Devices FAQ
Message-ID: <94fjpl+8lir@eGroups.com>

Okay, stand back for the miracle...

I've actually posted an FAQ draft to the Files section: Magical 
Devices.  It's pretty large and rambling and I may edit it down, or 
drop whole topics, but I'd like feedback now.  Anything missing?  I 
was wondering about including brooms (not too much discussion) and 
Wizard Photographs (a bit of discussion), but it seemed too big 
already.

Ron Weasley is *nearly* there.  I'm just trying to extract something 
sensible about his relationship with Hermione from all the R/H 
shipping stuff and tweak the short intro  Perhaps I should just refer 
to Romance Pairings for the R/H bit?

McGonagall and Quidditch are also on the verge.

Neil 






From HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com  Sun Jan 21 22:24:44 2001
From: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com (HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com)
Date: 21 Jan 2001 22:24:44 -0000
Subject: New file uploaded to HP4GU-FAQ 
Message-ID: <980115884.13729@egroups.com>


Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the HP4GU-FAQ 
group.

  File        : /FAQs/HERMIONE GRANGER.doc 
  Uploaded by : pennylin at swbell.net 
  Description :  

You can access this file at the URL

http://www.egroups.com/files/HP4GU-FAQ/FAQs/HERMIONE+GRANGER%2Edoc 

To learn more about eGroups file sharing, please visit

http://www.egroups.com/help/files.html


Regards,

pennylin at swbell.net
 






From pennylin at swbell.net  Sun Jan 21 22:28:45 2001
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:28:45 -0600
Subject: FAQs
References: <94fjpl+8lir@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3A6B629D.C4F41864@swbell.net>

Hi --

Flying Ford Anglia wrote:

> Okay, stand back for the miracle...
>
> I've actually posted an FAQ draft to the Files section: Magical
> Devices.

Another miracle just occurred.  <g>  I finished & uploaded my Hermione
draft!  Yay!!!!!

I will read the drafts that everyone else has uploaded sometime early
this week.  Should I begin editing for typos, grammar, etc. or are
people still working on these drafts?  I know Neil says he's still
working on Magical Devices but wants feedback.  Anyone else ready for me
to whip out my editor's pencil?

I know we're probably waiting on Heidi, Steve and Paul more than
anything else, but have we reached any conclusions at all about where to
upload the FAQs?  Now that I only have 2 more to write, I'm anxious to
start getting them uploaded.  We also have so many new members that I'd
love to start deflecting some questions, show off our collective
expertise, etc.  :--)

> Ron Weasley is *nearly* there.  I'm just trying to extract something
> sensible about his relationship with Hermione from all the R/H
> shipping stuff and tweak the short intro  Perhaps I should just refer
> to Romance Pairings for the R/H bit?

That's what I did with Hermione.  I posed a series of questions (does
she have unrevealed feelings for Harry?  Does she return Ron's obvious
romantic interest?  Does she care for neither friend?  Take a look at
the Romance Pairings FAQ).  I wouldn't spend alot of time on Ron &
romance since it is covered fairly well in the Romance FAQ (I think --
let me know if anyone disagrees -- we all know my bias in that regard!).

Penny
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From vderark at bccs.org  Sun Jan 21 22:54:45 2001
From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:54:45 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: FAQs
In-Reply-To: <3A6B629D.C4F41864@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <000201c083fd$2695f420$ee02fea9@i2k.com>

I have a page designed to put the FAQ text into. I'm trying it with the
Geography FAQ right now, but running into some minor text formatting
problems that I'll have to solve. I should be able to give you guys a peek
later tonight. Then all that it will take is a few days to put all the pages
together and we'll have ourselves an FAQ website.

If you want to see the current design, sans text file or navigation links,
point your browser to http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/test1.html.

I arbitrarily chose navigation categories and would love to get some input
on those.

Steve
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From vderark at bccs.org  Mon Jan 22 05:03:41 2001
From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:03:41 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] FAQ web page sample
In-Reply-To: <000201c083fd$2695f420$ee02fea9@i2k.com>
Message-ID: <000901c08430$b10279c0$ee02fea9@i2k.com>

Okay, I've put the current version of the page up. The link is below.
Please, tell me what you think. I can redesign it, use different fonts,
whatever. As I noted, I just came up with navigation categories off the top
of my head, so if you can think of better ones, by all means speak up.

I can create a page like this for every FAQ. We can link between them
however we want to. We can include a separate links page for various HPfGU
links and related things. I will create a home page as well--maybe a nice
pithy (read short) welcome and explanation from one of you eloquent types
would be good there.


  If you want to see the current design, sans text file or navigation links,
point your browser to http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/test1.html.

  I arbitrarily chose navigation categories and would love to get some input
on those.
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Date: 22 Jan 2001 05:02:27 -0000
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From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Mon Jan 22 05:07:41 2001
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Flying Ford Anglia)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 05:07:41 -0000
Subject: Ron FAQ
Message-ID: <94gf6t+uh1o@eGroups.com>

Why does everything take ten times longer than I think it will?

Anyway, a draft of Ron W FAQ is now uploaded.  As with Magical 
Devices, it's a bit long and I need to check a few refs.  

Comments appreciated.

I've let the topics dictate the headings I've used, if they appear 
illogical.

Hmmmm.  McGonagall and Quidditch will have to wait until tomorrow 
now.  I need SLEEP ... <g>

Neil





From lrcjestes at earthlink.net  Mon Jan 22 05:10:59 2001
From: lrcjestes at earthlink.net (Carole Estes)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:10:59 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] FAQ web page sample
References: <000901c08430$b10279c0$ee02fea9@i2k.com>
Message-ID: <00f101c08431$b70b2a00$3a5fd63f@oemcomputer>


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Vander Ark" <vderark at bccs.org>


> Okay, I've put the current version of the page up. The link is below.
> Please, tell me what you think. I can redesign it, use different fonts,
> whatever. As I noted, I just came up with navigation categories off the
top
> of my head, so if you can think of better ones, by all means speak up.
>
>
>   If you want to see the current design, sans text file or navigation
links,
> point your browser to http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/test1.html.

That page is soooooo cool! It will inspire me to get my measly 3 FAQ topics
done.  I promise...

carole







From vderark at bccs.org  Mon Jan 22 05:25:02 2001
From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:25:02 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] FAQ web page sample
In-Reply-To: <00f101c08431$b70b2a00$3a5fd63f@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <001001c08433$ac1aa600$ee02fea9@i2k.com>


>
> That page is soooooo cool! It will inspire me to get my measly 3
> FAQ topics
> done.  I promise...
>
> carole

I have to admit, throwing that page out there was a bit scary. I don't know
what everyone had already in mind for it and I had a sense of not being able
to live up to everyone's different expectations. I was waiting on pins and
needles for the reaction. Carole, thanks for that comment. I fully expect
and WANT plenty of critique etc., but it felt good to get a really nice
positive right off the bat.

Steve




From lrcjestes at earthlink.net  Mon Jan 22 05:28:42 2001
From: lrcjestes at earthlink.net (Carole Estes)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:28:42 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] FAQ web page sample
References: <001001c08433$ac1aa600$ee02fea9@i2k.com>
Message-ID: <00f901c08434$2fe868a0$3a5fd63f@oemcomputer>


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Vander Ark" <vderark at bccs.org>

> I have to admit, throwing that page out there was a bit scary. I don't
know
> what everyone had already in mind for it and I had a sense of not being
able
> to live up to everyone's different expectations. I was waiting on pins and
> needles for the reaction. Carole, thanks for that comment. I fully expect
> and WANT plenty of critique etc., but it felt good to get a really nice
> positive right off the bat.
>
> Steve

I know that feeling...kind of like posting your first chapter of fanfiction
and holding your breath.  I'll be up for a bigger discussion of fonts and
what not at a more decent hour...plus I'm slaving away at the chapter
discussion for this week....(got it almost done, Neil!)...but I thought
you'd appreciate a first impression!  Which was more like....gasp...wow That
is so cool!

carole





From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Mon Jan 22 05:06:35 2001
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 05:06:35 -0000
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] FAQ web page sample
References: <000901c08430$b10279c0$ee02fea9@i2k.com>
Message-ID: <006b01c08431$18cc9ae0$d53570c2@c5s910j>

Looks good Steve!

I'll comment in more depth later if I think of anything... now *really* to bed...

Neil

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve Vander Ark 
  To: HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 5:03 AM
  Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] FAQ web page sample


  Okay, I've put the current version of the page up. The link is below. Please, tell me what you think. I can redesign it, use different fonts, whatever. As I noted, I just came up with navigation categories off the top of my head, so if you can think of better ones, by all means speak up. 

  I can create a page like this for every FAQ. We can link between them however we want to. We can include a separate links page for various HPfGU links and related things. I will create a home page as well--maybe a nice pithy (read short) welcome and explanation from one of you eloquent types would be good there.


    If you want to see the current design, sans text file or navigation links, point your browser to http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/test1.html.

    I arbitrarily chose navigation categories and would love to get some input on those.

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From john at walton.to  Mon Jan 22 07:50:38 2001
From: john at walton.to (John Walton)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:50:38 +0000
Subject: Comments on the Geography FAQ :)
Message-ID: <B69196CE.A586%john@walton.to>

Hi all,

I love the new FAQ page layout! One thing I noticed though, in the Geography
FAQ:

Where is The Burrow?

Near Stoatshead Hill and the village of Ottery St Catchpole.?
There is some confusion as to where the Weasley family lives.?
Various UK-based members placed them in Devon as there is a?
village called Ottery Saint Mary, located not far to the east from?
Exeter.? The village of Chudleigh (similar to Chudley, home of?
the Chudley Cannons Quidditch Team) is a similar distance to?
the west of Exeter. However, in GoF, they used Muggle taxis to?
get to King?s Cross Station in London. This suggests that the?
Burrow must be reasonably close to London as it would?
otherwise have cost a fortune to transport the group to the?
Hogwarts Express. 

==

Actually, it's not that expensive, having travelled from Devon to London
myself to go to school. The train would be 15-20 pounds for each child under
16 and 30-40 for everyone over 16 (Arthur, Molly, Percy). A prebooked taxi
(from past experience) is about 70 pounds to go into London.?With four to a
taxi, therefore, it's not a bad bargain. Plus, we assume, the Ministry
"encouraged" the Weasleys to use private transport for safety reasons.

Anyway, we used to share taxis up to London to go home for the holidays all
the time.

Just a thought :)

--John
========================================
John Walton     john at walton.to

My parents retired to Florida and all I got was this lousy
President.
======================================== 




From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu  Mon Jan 22 12:32:27 2001
From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:32:27 -0000
Subject: Mythology
Message-ID: <94h98r+7ohc@eGroups.com>

Here's a nice resource for Celtic history and mythology that may be 
relevant to some of the FAQs.  Check out "churchyard grim" at the URL 
below:

http://www.ealaghol.demon.co.uk/celtenc/celt_c4.htm

-Jim Flanagan




From pennylin at swbell.net  Mon Jan 22 13:40:54 2001
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:40:54 -0600
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] FAQ web page sample
References: <000901c08430$b10279c0$ee02fea9@i2k.com>
Message-ID: <3A6C3866.2904C934@swbell.net>

Hi --

First, I'm so thrilled that we're moving ahead with this!  Great!!!

Navigation Categories: Do they need to be limited to one word
categories?  The draft Table of Contents (Index) that I created last
month has the following big categories:

    JKR (because she didn't really fit anywhere else in my scenario)
    The World of Harry Potter (Character Accents, Geography, Hogwarts,
Quidditch, Romance Pairings, etc.)
    Characters (this would be "People" in Steve's scheme)
    Appeal & Criticism (Book-Banning, Lawsuits, Race & HP, Religion &
HP, Universal Appeal)
    I had a blank for the next category but Steve's use of "Fandom"
works for me (Audio, Fanfic, Merchandise, Movie, etc.)
    Wizarding World (Clothing, Economy, Govt, Magical Devices, Mythology
& Magical Creatures, Social Issues, Spells, Wands)

So ...... can we mesh these 2 approaches together perhaps?  People &
Fandom can clearly be meshed easily (we could even throw the JKR FAQ
into "People" I suppose).  Where would my concepts of The World of HP,
Appeal & Criticism & Wizarding World fit into your scheme, Steve?
Places would be just the Geography FAQ, wouldn't it?

Others may have comments on the font -- it seems fine to me.

Question: I know this is a draft, but will there be active links for the
webpages that are cited?  What about the message numbers?  We talked at
one point about having it set up so that if someone wanted to link
directly from a message citation to the actual message in the Archives,
it would take them there.  But, now that we're archiving messages
elsewhere, this may definitely be more headache than it's worth.
Thoughts on that?

I assume it is, however, easy enough for you to set up active links
between cross-referenced FAQs, right?  Like the cross-reference to
Romance Pairings in my Hermione FAQ -- that would be an active link,
right?

Another Question: All of my FAQs thus far lent themselves to "essay"
form.  I prepared them in Word, with footnotes for message #s, secondary
sources, page references, etc.  I'm anxious to see how one of these will
format -- so can one of mine be the next test case?  :--)  The Religion
& Universal Appeal FAQs are probably the shortest ones that I've
written, although length may not matter to you.

I'm very excited about this -- full steam-ahead I say!

Penny






From pennylin at swbell.net  Mon Jan 22 13:44:26 2001
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:44:26 -0600
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Comments on the Geography FAQ :)
References: <B69196CE.A586%john@walton.to>
Message-ID: <3A6C393A.28C19E84@swbell.net>

Hi --

John -- great comments on the Burrow issue.  My personal opinion is that
maybe you should post an actual message to the group with this info, so
that there can be a message citation in the Burrow section.  But, maybe
others won't think that's necessary.

What do we think?  Can we as a group just edit the FAQs of others based
on our own substantive knowledge & not really worry about creating a
message to the group with that info?  Either way is fine by me .... just
a thought (since we have message #s for support for info).  Or, at least
all my info is supported by footnotes with message #s or page references
(or interviews, articles, etc.).

I was particularly sensitive to being sure everything was documented in
my Romance & Hermione FAQs -- for .... ahem .... obvious reasons of
bias.  :--)

Penny

> Hi all,
>
> I love the new FAQ page layout! One thing I noticed though, in the
> Geography
> FAQ:
>
> Where is The Burrow?
>
> Near Stoatshead Hill and the village of Ottery St Catchpole.
> There is some confusion as to where the Weasley family lives.
> Various UK-based members placed them in Devon as there is a
> village called Ottery Saint Mary, located not far to the east from
> Exeter.  The village of Chudleigh (similar to Chudley, home of
> the Chudley Cannons Quidditch Team) is a similar distance to
> the west of Exeter. However, in GoF, they used Muggle taxis to
> get to Kings Cross Station in London. This suggests that the
> Burrow must be reasonably close to London as it would
> otherwise have cost a fortune to transport the group to the
> Hogwarts Express.
>
> ==
>
> Actually, it's not that expensive, having travelled from Devon to
> London
> myself to go to school. The train would be 15-20 pounds for each child
> under
> 16 and 30-40 for everyone over 16 (Arthur, Molly, Percy). A prebooked
> taxi
> (from past experience) is about 70 pounds to go into London. With four
> to a
> taxi, therefore, it's not a bad bargain. Plus, we assume, the Ministry
>
> "encouraged" the Weasleys to use private transport for safety reasons.
>
> Anyway, we used to share taxis up to London to go home for the
> holidays all
> the time.
>
> Just a thought :)
>
> --John
> ========================================
> John Walton     john at walton.to
>
> My parents retired to Florida and all I got was this lousy
> President.
> ========================================
>
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From pennylin at swbell.net  Mon Jan 22 13:53:38 2001
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:53:38 -0600
Subject: Another FAQ Question
Message-ID: <3A6C3B61.BE647273@swbell.net>

Hi --

One more thought.  I did actually edit the Geography FAQ for typos, etc.
long ago, but it is the only one prepared by someone else that I've
looked at.  If I hadn't edited it yet, is it a problem to go back &
edit?  Would I edit the HTML version somehow or do I send comments to
someone like Steve?

Someone else needs to read my FAQs for typos, etc. also.  Anyone want to
volunteer?

Penny




From vderark at bccs.org  Mon Jan 22 14:21:33 2001
From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:21:33 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Another FAQ Question
In-Reply-To: <3A6C3B61.BE647273@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <002701c0847e$9f5ea6a0$0301a8c0@i2k.com>

The file would really have to be edited by me, since I'm the only one who
has access to it on the server. Right now, preparing text for transfer into
the template is a bit of a pain because I force the page to 600 pixels wide
(the width of a monitor that's working at lower resolution, meaning that
it's readable to just about everybody without sideways scrolling.) That
means I have to import into Word, set the margins at 4.7, then save as a
text file with line feeds. It's not hard, just takes a little time. It would
be nice to have finished documents going in. I realize that there will
always be additions and corrections to make, but at least let's start with
clean copy. I'm a pretty good editor (I've done it for money, not that that
proves anything). So I can do it, I'd just rather share the load :)

Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer [mailto:pennylin at swbell.net]
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 8:54 AM
> To: HPforGrownups FAQs
> Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Another FAQ Question
>
>
> Hi --
>
> One more thought.  I did actually edit the Geography FAQ for typos, etc.
> long ago, but it is the only one prepared by someone else that I've
> looked at.  If I hadn't edited it yet, is it a problem to go back &
> edit?  Would I edit the HTML version somehow or do I send comments to
> someone like Steve?
>
> Someone else needs to read my FAQs for typos, etc. also.  Anyone want to
> volunteer?
>
> Penny
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com
>
>
>




From vderark at bccs.org  Mon Jan 22 14:25:04 2001
From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:25:04 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] FAQ web page sample
In-Reply-To: <3A6C3866.2904C934@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <002801c0847f$1cebc3a0$0301a8c0@i2k.com>


>
> Navigation Categories: Do they need to be limited to one word
> categories?  The draft Table of Contents (Index) that I created last
> month has the following big categories:


I can easily do it with these categories. I just, uh, never looked at your
table of contents...


>
> Question: I know this is a draft, but will there be active links for the
> webpages that are cited?  What about the message numbers?  We talked at
> one point about having it set up so that if someone wanted to link
> directly from a message citation to the actual message in the Archives,
> it would take them there.  But, now that we're archiving messages
> elsewhere, this may definitely be more headache than it's worth.
> Thoughts on that?

I didn't go through it for links. I could link just about anything, as you
might imagine. I'd say to wait until the messages are archived, then I'll
link them. Of course, that means that things that don't get archived now,
we'd have to RElink when they DO get archived. I dunno, maybe that's too
much trouble.


>
> Another Question: All of my FAQs thus far lent themselves to "essay"
> form.  I prepared them in Word, with footnotes for message #s, secondary
> sources, page references, etc.  I'm anxious to see how one of these will
> format -- so can one of mine be the next test case?  :--)  The Religion
> & Universal Appeal FAQs are probably the shortest ones that I've
> written, although length may not matter to you.

I'll do that one next. I'm in final rehearsals for a show right now so my
evenings and weekends are shot. I did that page last night between my son's
birthday party and doing laundry into the wee hours, bur I'm not sure I can
get another page finished until maybe tomorrow. I just want VERY much to get
this set.

Steve





From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Mon Jan 22 15:04:59 2001
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Flying Ford Anglia)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:04:59 -0000
Subject: Comments on the Geography FAQ :)
In-Reply-To: <3A6C393A.28C19E84@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <94hi6r+dc1p@eGroups.com>

I'm pitching my FAQs somewhere between essays and Q&As and sticking 
to actual message content as far as possible.  I could easily (well, 
not so easily) go through all the books or Steve's Lexicon and note 
down every spell or charm, for example but I don't plan to pose and 
answer questions about those that haven't been discussed by the group.

I think it's important to add missing information if it would clarify 
matters and I would say it's not necessary to post a message to the 
group if it is something minor, such as John's information, or a 
relevant web link. Couldn't we, instead, add editor's notes in cases 
where some correction, explanation or expansion would be helpful?

Neil





From heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu  Mon Jan 22 17:56:32 2001
From: heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu (heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 17:56:32 -0000
Subject: Comments on the Geography FAQ :)
In-Reply-To: <3A6C393A.28C19E84@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <94hs8g+l9n8@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com, Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer 
<pennylin at s...> wrote:
> Hi --
> 
> John -- great comments on the Burrow issue.  My personal opinion is 
that
> maybe you should post an actual message to the group with this 
info, so
> that there can be a message citation in the Burrow section.  But, 
maybe
> others won't think that's necessary.
I actually had already made some changes to this portion of the faq - 
we had a thread about this back in I think November, when I peeped up 
about the cab ride I once took from London to Southhampton which was 
cheaper, for 4 of us, than train tickets bought at the last minute 
would be. But the more cites, the better, 

Steve - it was such a thrill to see the faq up there - and I love the 
way it looks.
I do think, however, that even though it's not much use in court, a 
disclaimer along with the copyright & UPDATE notes would be a good 
idea - Penny? what do you think? 


> What do we think?  Can we as a group just edit the FAQs of others 
based
> on our own substantive knowledge & not really worry about creating a
> message to the group with that info?  Either way is fine by me .... 
just
> a thought (since we have message #s for support for info).  Or, at 
least
> all my info is supported by footnotes with message #s or page 
references
> (or interviews, articles, etc.).

I do a lot of refs to websites, articles, interviews, etc., which 
were never discussed extensively on the list, and I think that's a 
fine replacement for actual message cites. I'm also not listing EVERY 
message which refers to a topic - the lists become prohibitavely 
long - I'm only citing to those I actually use in compiling the FAQ 
itself, either as quote or as inspiration - is that ok?
> >




From Aberforths_Goat at Yahoo.com  Wed Jan 24 10:26:02 2001
From: Aberforths_Goat at Yahoo.com (Aberforth's Goat)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 11:26:02 +0100
Subject: A couple of questions
References: <94hs8g+l9n8@eGroups.com>
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I'm getting down to work on my FAQ's and have run into a couple of
questions:

(1) I'm having trouble learning how to work the post summaries. Do the
numbers in the summaries refer to the Yahoo Message numbers as catalogued in
the HP4GU archive group? Also: I don't suppose anyone happened to coalesce
all of the summaries onto a single page ... ? I'm trying to use a P 100, and
it takes about three minutes to open the Word files in IE. <sigh>

(2) There seem to be several different ways of documenting one's FAQ. Penny
has lovely footnotes that conform to everything I can remember forgetting in
my Chicago Manual. Other people have integrated references into their texts.
Yet other people have used footnotes but added hyperlinks to principle
egroups discussions. Should I be emulating any one of these styles or just
doing whatever I feel like?

(3) One of my Tasks is to compare the Potters with Voldemort. I'm a tad
confused. Whom am I comparing to Voldy: Harry alone or each member of the
Potter nuclear family? (I suppose I could also distinguish between Tom
Riddle, Lord Voldermort and Rosemary's Babymort and compare each one to a
different Potter ... and get it published by that Schafer woman ... )

(4) I can't seem to find the page listing the weekly character summaries.
I've found Michelle's Pettigrew summary, but I can't locate Neville. Anyone
have a rembral (sp?) handy?

I can *guarantee* having my FAQ's ready to upload in four weeks. Depending
on my ... err ... day job, I may have them ready sooner. If it's important
to have *one* of them up sooner, I'll be glad to oblige.

Baaaaaa!

Aberforth's Goat (a.k.a. Mike Gray)
_______________________

"My own brother, Aberforth, was prosecuted for practising
inappropriate charms on a goat. It was all over the papers,
but did Aberforth hide? No he did not! He held his head high."




From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Wed Jan 24 00:09:12 2001
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 00:09:12 -0000
Subject: answering questions
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINMEAMDBAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

The goat wrote: "(1) I'm having trouble learning how to work the post
summaries. Do the numbers in the summaries refer to the Yahoo Message
numbers as catalogued in the HP4GU archive group? Also: I don't suppose
anyone happened to coalesce all of the summaries onto a single page ... ?
I'm trying to use a P 100, and it takes about three minutes to open the Word
files in IE. <sigh>"

They should all have been entered into the FORT (Frequent or Recurring
Things) database. This can give out a printable record,
http://beta.groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/database?method=reportRows&tbl=
1&sortBy=1&sortDir=down&startAt=&prntRpt=1 (note that the link needs
reconstructing - probably), which will probably load more quickly on your
computer and be easier to use. I think all the message numbers where entered
into this - looks at all the others for conformation.


The goat wrote: "(3) One of my Tasks is to compare the Potters with
Voldemort. I'm a tad confused. Whom am I comparing to Voldy: Harry alone or
each member of the Potter nuclear family?"

Definitely to contain Harry / Tom Riddle links and similarities as there
will be nothing on this subject in the Harry FAQ (which I have now got notes
on for the first quarter of the messages on eGroups). I would also assume
that it is to include similarities between Lily / James and Voldemort, but
cannot confirm this.


The goat wrote: "(4) I can't seem to find the page listing the weekly
character summaries. I've found Michelle's Pettigrew summary, but I can't
locate Neville. Anyone have a rembral (sp?) handy?"

Looking at the list it seems that Neville is up for discussion next week.
Explaining the reason why you are having difficulties in locating the
summary on him.



Simon (hoping that now he has finished his work for the week that he can get
some FAQ stuff done and wondering about how the group has managed to post
nearly 1000 more messages than when I last had a look through for stuff
connected with my FAQs - just need some sleep first)





From vderark at bccs.org  Wed Jan 24 00:37:59 2001
From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 19:37:59 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] citations and editing styles
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Message-ID: <000401c0859d$e6ee23e0$537dfea9@i2k.com>


> (2) There seem to be several different ways of documenting one's
> FAQ. Penny
> has lovely footnotes that conform to everything I can remember
> forgetting in
> my Chicago Manual. Other people have integrated references into
> their texts.
> Yet other people have used footnotes but added hyperlinks to principle
> egroups discussions. Should I be emulating any one of these styles or just
> doing whatever I feel like?

My vote? Let's not get too anal retentive about this. (Wait, that looks
wrong...does "anal retentive" have a hyphen?) We have different editors
using different styles and that's okay. It's simply too much work to try to
standardize it and there's no real value to it for now. If someone wants to
PAY us to create this ultimate reference source, that's a different story.
But this is a free service we're offering here, one that is already a TON of
work for a lot of people. I think it's fine if it doesn't have that final,
corporate polish. In fact, I like the fact that it's clearly the work of a
number of dedicated people, not one person's slick finished product.

Steve




From Aberforths_Goat at Yahoo.com  Wed Jan 24 13:04:09 2001
From: Aberforths_Goat at Yahoo.com (Aberforth's Goat)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:04:09 +0100
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] answering questions
References: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINMEAMDBAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <01f101c08606$29b000a0$5e00a8c0@cablecom.ch>

Thanks a dozen Simon. I just spent an hour or so poking through the files &
database sections and found the FORT, among other things. Wow!

Are we continuing to sift through and categorize old posts? If there's any
human activity worthy of a 101% score on the HP obsession test, that's gotta
be it ... But with a search engine as bad as Egroup's, I can see the point.

I also see that you're the Harry & Voldemort guy. Should you have any
material on hand--particularly any lists of Egroup postings relevant to
H&V--would you mind beaming them to me?

Baaaaaa!

Aberforth's Goat (a.k.a. Mike Gray)
_______________________

"My own brother, Aberforth, was prosecuted for practising
inappropriate charms on a goat. It was all over the papers,
but did Aberforth hide? No he did not! He held his head high."




From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Wed Jan 24 03:43:04 2001
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 03:43:04 -0000
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] A couple of questions
References: <94hs8g+l9n8@eGroups.com> <014901c085f0$13836f80$5e00a8c0@cablecom.ch>
Message-ID: <01c501c085b7$c2cb8100$883670c2@c5s910j>

Mike said:

> (2) There seem to be several different ways of documenting one's FAQ.
Penny
> has lovely footnotes that conform to everything I can remember forgetting
in
> my Chicago Manual. Other people have integrated references into their
texts.
> Yet other people have used footnotes but added hyperlinks to principle
> egroups discussions. Should I be emulating any one of these styles or just
> doing whatever I feel like?

I'd agree with Steve on this.  We've all taken slightly different approaches
(I think I've been the least observant of footnotes and annotations, for
example, although I'll probably add some in later) and even different
approaches with different types of FAQ.

It's a bit like the weekly summaries - every one is slightly different in
style to the next, but we can live with that.

> I can *guarantee* having my FAQ's ready to upload in four weeks. Depending
> on my ... err ... day job, I may have them ready sooner. If it's important
> to have *one* of them up sooner, I'll be glad to oblige.

That will put me to shame...

Neil







From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Wed Jan 24 08:29:55 2001
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 08:29:55 -0000
Subject: Vold / Harry
Message-ID: <LOBBLGEGEBLNEOFHCDINEEBJDBAA.simon.branford@hertford.ox.ac.uk>

Mike wrote: "I also see that you're the Harry & Voldemort guy. Should you
have any material on hand--particularly any lists of Egroup postings
relevant to H&V--would you mind beaming them to me?"

Sorry. When I have been sorting out messages for me to use in my FAQs I have
only selected the messages directly related to my FAQs and ignored the rest.


Simon






From HP4GU-FAQ at egroups.com  Thu Jan 25 16:28:58 2001
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Date: 25 Jan 2001 16:28:58 -0000
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From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk  Fri Jan 26 20:43:42 2001
From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 20:43:42 +0000
Subject: test
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010126204309.00a83380@hert0661.herald.ox.ac.uk>

Sorry - having e-mail problems

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