From vderark at bccs.org Sun Jun 10 05:06:53 2001 From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 05:06:53 -0000 Subject: the FAQ is now a web site Message-ID: <9fuv9d+s644@eGroups.com> Hey! Thanks to Paul's excellent design work (and web-friendly pallette of colors) and a little bit of work on my part, we now have an FAQ website. Only a couple of pages are finished, but if you'd like to take a peek and see how it looks, head on over to: http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/faq/ As new pages are finished, the links will be made live on the main index page. There are only two content pages created yet, but they fit into a template with style rules etc., so now it's just a matter of taking the text you people created and pouring it into the form. Of course, some of you did your work in formats that won't transfer quite as quickly as the HTML ones, but we'll get it done. I must confess I adjusted the index a little bit from what you had posted in the file section, Penny. I combined a few things, which I hope is okay. This site is ready to go whenever we want to link the domain name to it. I don't think we need to wait until each and every page is added to make it live. At what point do we welcome visitors? We do have a little bit of general site work to do too before that time: we will want to add a hit counter to the main page as well as a search function. Steve From vderark at bccs.org Sun Jun 10 05:33:31 2001 From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 05:33:31 -0000 Subject: more FAQ notes Message-ID: <9fv0rb+d657@eGroups.com> Hi again: Penny, I just converted your JKR page into HTML and I'm sorry to tell you that footnotes simply don't translate. I'll have to go through and edit each footnote into place (or find someone else who would be willing to do it,not including you). Word is very powerful. HTML isn't. For now, I am doing very little editing. I did change a few minor things in the Neville page (eg his parents are not BOTH aurors, as far as we know, just his father). Also, Paul and I decided that we would leave for now the variations in the way editors included references, since changing them to be consistent with each other would be a LOT (in huge, quivering capital letters) of work. For now, we'll just get the pages done and then we can fix things like that later. I didn't know who had edited which FAQ, so the the ones I've done so far don't list an editor. I would like to include that information, however, so please let me know ASAP. Any more FAQs that are not turned in? If so, why not check with me about writing them in an editor like Composer instead of Word, which would make our job a lot easier? If you'd rather not, no problem, we'll convert them. I will keep converting pages as I get a chance. It's 1:30 am and I'm going off to bed soon. I'll get more done tomorrow. (Okay, I know it's technically tomorrow already, but I'm using a Time Turner, okay?) Steve From neilward at dircon.co.uk Sun Jun 10 06:20:36 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 07:20:36 +0100 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] the FAQ is now a web site References: <9fuv9d+s644@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <002201c0f175$76daeae0$bf3570c2@c5s910j> > Thanks to Paul's excellent design work (and web-friendly pallette of > colors) and a little bit of work on my part, we now have an FAQ > website. Only a couple of pages are finished, but if you'd like to > take a peek and see how it looks, head on over to: > > http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/faq/ Hurray! The website looks great, Steve. Huge thanks to you and Paul for all your work on it. I have only posted two drafts of my FAQs so far, and IIRC, both were just plain Word documents. I'd be happy to try using Composer or somesuch editor instead of Word, if it will make things easier, but I don't have any such thing AFAIK. Is there some suitable freeware I can download? Would something like Hotdog be the thing, for example? Neil From vderark at bccs.org Sun Jun 10 06:25:59 2001 From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 06:25:59 -0000 Subject: the FAQ is now a web site In-Reply-To: <002201c0f175$76daeae0$bf3570c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <9fv3tn+i2k4@eGroups.com> > > I have only posted two drafts of my FAQs so far, and IIRC, both were just > plain Word documents. I'd be happy to try using Composer or somesuch editor > instead of Word, if it will make things easier, but I don't have any such > thing AFAIK. Is there some suitable freeware I can download? Would > something like Hotdog be the thing, for example? You know, Neil, I just converted another one from Word (Heidi's geography one) and it went so smoothly I really don't think anyone needs to worry about it. Just don't use footnotes like Penny and you're probably just fine. If you're in a kindly mood, you could use Arial 12 point bold for body text and make your subheadings in 18 point bold. That would save me one step. Oh, and sign your name at the top :) Thanks Steve From Aberforths_Goat at Yahoo.com Sun Jun 10 07:10:25 2001 From: Aberforths_Goat at Yahoo.com (Aberforth's Goat) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:10:25 +0200 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] FAQ notes References: <9fv0rb+d657@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <01d501c0f17c$6c49d2b0$3372023e@shasta> Wow Steve! Looks terrific--and I'm thrilled to see my very own Neville FAQ up! Of course, reading it and noticing a couple of punctuation errors and several style issues was embarrassing. Am I still allowed to do some editing? (There's also been some extensive discussion about Neville over the last month, that I could add in.) > For now, I am doing very little editing. I did change a few minor > things in the Neville page (eg his parents are not BOTH aurors, as > far as we know, just his father). Gulp! I, uh, er--I mean, of course--what a horrible typo that was! (Just checked my GoF--I see that you're right, of course ... ) About formatting: shall I produce my next two FAQ's in the format as the Neville FAQ? (I tried to produce a completely clean HTML to let you guys add in whatever you want.) Baaaaaa! Aberforth's Goat (a.k.a. Mike Gray) _______________________ "My own brother, Aberforth, was prosecuted for practising inappropriate charms on a goat. It was all over the papers, but did Aberforth hide? No he did not! He held his head high." From heidiandaaroN at aol.com Sun Jun 10 12:10:16 2001 From: heidiandaaroN at aol.com (heidiandaaroN at aol.com) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:10:16 EDT Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] the FAQ is now a web site Message-ID: In a message dated 6/10/01 1:07:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, vderark at bccs.org writes: << Thanks to Paul's excellent design work (and web-friendly pallette of colors) and a little bit of work on my part, we now have an FAQ website. Only a couple of pages are finished, but if you'd like to take a peek and see how it looks, head on over to: http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/faq/>> I love this! And I love the way my Geography FAQ turned out - it's not officially updated, but nothing much has been discussed since I did it, so it's fine... And I will start working my other FAQs in COmposer, which I think I remember how to use - anything to make it easier on you! btw - the pot. rom. pairings is a Penny Production - who else could write so unbiasedly about shipping? :) << This site is ready to go whenever we want to link the domain name to it. I don't think we need to wait until each and every page is added to make it live. At what point do we welcome visitors? We do have a little bit of general site work to do too before that time: we will want to add a hit counter to the main page as well as a search function. >> Can we have a counter on the first page before we go live? - something that says ______ witches and wizards have visited since June __, 2001, or something like that? I think we can go live without the search function, though, dpending on how long it takes. We also should have, as I once suggested, a line that says "HARRY POTTER(TM), HOGWARTS(TM), HERMIONE GRANGER(TM), FLUFFY(TM) and other similar and related indicia are trademarks of Warner Bros., and are used here for noncommercial purposes; no infringement is intended." It can either be on a page by itself, with a link from each page that says "Intellectual Property Information" or on each line, in small type, like the copyright notice. From simon at hp.inbox.as Sun Jun 10 12:40:38 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Simon) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:40:38 +0100 Subject: faq Message-ID: Hello The site is looking good, but I do have a couple of comments/queries. The pot. rel. faq seems to have been done from an old version. The latest version I have seen has Harry/Hedwig so I spotted this straight off. Are we going to be using the logo? I plan to spend part of the next fortnight on my FAQs. My first priorities are Harry and Lord Vold. Hopefully I will have a decent first draft of both in this time (so ignore the one currently residing in the files section for these two until I have an opportunity to work further on them. I am a bit confused by the footnotes problem. I, for the time being at least, will leave mine as they are and hope for the best. Simon From vderark at bccs.org Sun Jun 10 13:36:39 2001 From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:36:39 -0000 Subject: faq In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9fvt57+g46c@eGroups.com> --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "Simon" wrote: > Hello > > The site is looking good, but I do have a couple of comments/queries. > > The pot. rel. faq seems to have been done from an old version. The latest > version I have seen has Harry/Hedwig so I spotted this straight off. I'll check for the new version. > > Are we going to be using the logo? It could be incorporated, sure. I think we had it on one of our versions. I'll go back and look at adding it to the main page. > > > I plan to spend part of the next fortnight on my FAQs. My first priorities are > Harry and Lord Vold. Hopefully I will have a decent first draft of both in > this time (so ignore the one currently residing in the files section for these > two until I have an opportunity to work further on them. Okay. > > I am a bit confused by the footnotes problem. I, for the time being at least, > will leave mine as they are and hope for the best. If you let Word do the footnoting, neither the footnote numbers in the body of the text nor the footnotes themselves are "part" of the text, they're added by Word on the fly. In other words, when I go into Word and select "Save as..." to save the document as HTML, the footnotes all disappear completely. The same thing happens if I "select all" to grab the text and then cut and paste it into the HTML document. So if you add references using Word's footnote function, your footnotes will not be included. If you type them yourself integrally in the text, as endnotes for example, they will cheerfully come right along during the conversion. Steve From kippesp at swbell.net Sun Jun 10 17:18:18 2001 From: kippesp at swbell.net (P Kippes) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:18:18 -0000 Subject: faq In-Reply-To: <9fvt57+g46c@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9g0a4q+20b4@eGroups.com> --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "Steve Vander Ark" wrote: > --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "Simon" wrote: > > > > I am a bit confused by the footnotes problem. I, for the time being > at least, > > will leave mine as they are and hope for the best. > > If you let Word do the footnoting, neither the footnote numbers in > the body of the text nor the footnotes themselves are "part" of the > text, they're added by Word on the fly. In other words, when I go > into Word and select "Save as..." to save the document as HTML, the > footnotes all disappear completely. The same thing happens if > I "select all" to grab the text and then cut and paste it into the > HTML document. > > So if you add references using Word's footnote function, your > footnotes will not be included. If you type them yourself integrally > in the text, as endnotes for example, they will cheerfully come right > along during the conversion. > You may see duplicate e-mails on this. I'm having trouble with using this remotely..... Just ignore those you'll see tomorrow. Steve, did you see the messages regarding the conversion tool I had previously found? By some "piper" company. I tried the site today but didn't get any response. When I get home, I'll check if I still have the conversion tool. I used this to create a HTML version of Penny's Hermione FAQ. This version had the footnotes converted rather well I thought. Could you check this version--see the files section FAQ/HTMLified/undressed/Hermone_Granger-2.html--and see if this version can be incorporated into a formated version? I can create these kinds of versions rather easily, but I only did the one as a test case and "proof of concept." Okay...gotta go. I think that's all I tried to say earlier. Looks good, by the way. Paul From vderark at bccs.org Sun Jun 10 18:08:50 2001 From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:08:50 -0000 Subject: FAQ notes In-Reply-To: <01d501c0f17c$6c49d2b0$3372023e@shasta> Message-ID: <9g0d3i+hm6g@eGroups.com> Sorry, I hit enter by mistake. As I was saying, if you want to format the text according to our style sheet, you would certainly not be hurting my feelings any! > > About formatting: shall I produce my next two FAQ's in the format as the > Neville FAQ? (I tried to produce a completely clean HTML to let you guys add > in whatever you want.) Steve From vderark at bccs.org Sun Jun 10 18:17:30 2001 From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:17:30 -0000 Subject: the FAQ is now a web site In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9g0djq+aa3r@eGroups.com> > And I will start working my other FAQs in COmposer, which I think I remember > how to use - anything to make it easier on you! If you want to work in Composer, just go to the page on the web, select "Edit page" from the file menu, and do a "Save as..." to create a copy with a new name on your own hard drive. I'm using simple file names as much as possible, so the Geography page is called "geography.html" for example. I always use the "html" extension instead of "htm" too, and it's best to keep things consistent. Then you can type right into our template. When you're done, send me the file and I'll edit, add the index at the top of the page if you haven't, and upload it. Until I see what Paul's conversion program will do, please don't save your Word doc in HTML. I'll do that myself. Otherwise we get all sorts of extraneous junk in there - HTML tags, carriage returns, etc. > > btw - the pot. rom. pairings is a Penny Production - who else could write so > unbiasedly about shipping? :) I have Mike's name to add to the Neville one too. Thanks. > > << This site is ready to go whenever we want to link the domain name to > it. I don't think we need to wait until each and every page is added > to make it live. At what point do we welcome visitors? We do have a > little bit of general site work to do too before that time: we will > want to add a hit counter to the main page as well as a search > function. >> > > > Can we have a counter on the first page before we go live? - something that > says ______ witches and wizards have visited since June __, 2001, or > something like that? I think we can go live without the search function, > though, dpending on how long it takes. Actually, the hit counter is trickier for me, since I don't write cgi code. I have to rely on third party counters, which means they don't upload very well from Composer, so I have to ftp the file when I update it. I know that means nothing to most of you (or me, almost). If anyone knows how to write a nice simple hit counter for us that will upload easily in Composer, I would be eternally in their debt. > We also should have, as I once suggested, a line that says "HARRY POTTER(TM), > HOGWARTS(TM), HERMIONE GRANGER(TM), FLUFFY(TM) and other similar and related > indicia are trademarks of Warner Bros., and are used here for noncommercial > purposes; no infringement is intended." > It can either be on a page by itself, with a link from each page that says > "Intellectual Property Information" or on each line, in small type, like the > copyright notice. Heidi, I recently received an official permission from Warner Bros to use their graphics. I could put the exact same credit line on our pages that they asked me to use for the Lexicon. Would that be a good idea? Steve From vderark at bccs.org Sun Jun 10 18:19:52 2001 From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:19:52 -0000 Subject: FAQ notes In-Reply-To: <01d501c0f17c$6c49d2b0$3372023e@shasta> Message-ID: <9g0do8+pd5d@eGroups.com> --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "Aberforth's Goat" wrote: > Wow Steve! > > Looks terrific--and I'm thrilled to see my very own Neville FAQ up! Of > course, reading it and noticing a couple of punctuation errors and several > style issues was embarrassing. Am I still allowed to do some editing? > (There's also been some extensive discussion about Neville over the last > month, that I could add in.) Edit away! Just upload the new version to the files area with the date in the filename. If you want to send it to me too, that would be nice, but not essential. Steve From Aberforths_Goat at Yahoo.com Sun Jun 10 19:08:15 2001 From: Aberforths_Goat at Yahoo.com (Aberforth's Goat) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:08:15 +0200 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: FAQ notes References: <9g0d3i+hm6g@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <02f401c0f1e0$b8f9a270$3372023e@shasta> Steve reassured, > As I was saying, if you want to format the text according to our > style sheet, you would certainly not be hurting my feelings any! Pray forgive the breadth of my cranium, but where do I find such I style sheet? I'd be happy to use it. As far as editing is concerned, I presume I can just open the page with FrontPage, make my changes then send the new version to you? (I'd obviously have to be careful not to let FrontPage add any "improvements"!) Baaaaaa! Aberforth's Goat (a.k.a. Mike Gray) _______________________ "My own brother, Aberforth, was prosecuted for practising inappropriate charms on a goat. It was all over the papers, but did Aberforth hide? No he did not! He held his head high." From vderark at bccs.org Sun Jun 10 19:45:46 2001 From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:45:46 -0000 Subject: FAQ notes In-Reply-To: <02f401c0f1e0$b8f9a270$3372023e@shasta> Message-ID: <9g0ipa+8ql5@eGroups.com> --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "Aberforth's Goat" wrote: > Steve reassured, > > > As I was saying, if you want to format the text according to our > > style sheet, you would certainly not be hurting my feelings any! > > Pray forgive the breadth of my cranium, but where do I find such I style > sheet? I'd be happy to use it. As far as editing is concerned, I presume I > can just open the page with FrontPage, make my changes then send the new > version to you? (I'd obviously have to be careful not to let FrontPage add > any "improvements"!) FrontPage ALWAYS makes "improvements" to a page, no matter what. Don't use it. It's much easier just to go with a straight Word doc than a page that's been through FrontPage. If it hits FrontPage, I have to redo it from scratch. Can you tell that I don't like FrontPage? I'll compile a list of fonts/sizes/etc. for folks to use if they are so inclined. I'll upload it when it's done. Steve From pennylin at swbell.net Sun Jun 10 22:00:33 2001 From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny Linsenmayer) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:00:33 -0500 Subject: FAQs Message-ID: Hi everyone -- Huge thanks to Steve and Paul! Great job on the design work. It really looks fabulous. I'm so excited that we will soon be able to go "live" with this project. It's been so long in the making, and lots of good work done by lots of people. I am eager for our hard work to be of use to all the members. Steve, I'm sorry that my composition method is turning into headaches for you. I will be happy to go back through all my FAQs and change the footnotes into endnotes manually if this makes sense. Or, is there another method I could use that would help you out? Is Composer the program that is part of Netscape? I'm not familiar with it, but I could also try cutting & pasting my work into that program (or doing whatever is necessary to fix my documents so that it will be less work for you). Steve: the Potential Romance Pairings FAQ that you have uploaded is definitely an old draft as I think Simon pointed out. I've deleted the old drafts each time I reuploaded a revised one. I'm guessing maybe that you downloaded that draft to your system some time ago perhaps? Anyway ... we will definitely want to get the revised one uploaded. As for formatting consistency, I agree that it would be way too much to ask Steve & Paul to try and make all our essays have the same "look." I think it will be fine that each person's style comes through. There is a list of who is doing what FAQ in the Files section somewhere. Of course, I cannot do any work myself on any of this until I'm back in my house. Personal update: we fell victim to the fury of Tropical Storm Allison on Friday evening/Sat morning. The city of Houston took 28-32 inches of rainfall in the space of about 6 hours, and the property damage is severe and extensive (not to mention a death toll of 9 victims so far). Our neighborhood which has never flooded in the 40 years since the homes were built flooded. We were very lucky actually in that only 2-3 inches of water came into our house, and we were able to save virtually all our personal property. We evacuated to our next door neighbor's home which has a 2nd story about 1:30 am when the water started running into the house. Of course, tons more poured in when we opened the door to get out; the water was nearly waist-high on me when we slogged through our front lawn to get to the neighbors. My sister who was visiting for the weekend came back over to our house with Bryce and helped him move furniture and things off the floor for hours. So, we only need to replace carpet, hardwoods, and a few sofas and things that couldn't be moved higher. We were able to get plastic bags around the legs of heavy wood furniture as well. We are lucky that my mother-in-law is in property management and was able to beg, borrow & steal a contractor to go to our house today to get the wet flooring removed and start remediation. But, I will likely be at my in-laws (and stuck with their slow dial-up connection) for a week and probably longer. If they have to replace walls after all, I'll be here for a month or more I'm told. All in all though we are quite lucky. There was nothing more frightening to me than standing and holding my 6 week old baby as I watched the water rising up to our door and the rain coming down in unrelenting sheets. We were able to get to a 2nd story house though, and there were plenty of people in Houston who were plucked off their roofs or off the top of their cars by boat or helicopters (some areas of Houston the water was level with the roofs on 2 story homes). The freeways became rivers with almost no warning as the bayous broke loose, and 18 wheelers were submerged by the dozens on all the freeways. They are saying it was (or will be proven to be) one of the worst natural disasters in US history. It was far worse than any hurricane Houston has ever experienced anyway. So ... long story to say that in addition to having a new baby, I also have no home at the moment ... so my involvement will be severely limited I imagine. My inlaws also don't have a 2nd line so I need to close off here & quit tying up their phone. To those of you who were in on the Harry & Hermione bears that were sent to my daughter, I thought you'd like to hear that we brought those to my in-laws home with us and Elizabeth recognized them right off (cooing, gurgling and smiling at them). :--) Penny _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Steve Vander Ark Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: FAQ notes Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:45:46 +0000 Size: 3418 URL: From vderark at bccs.org Mon Jun 11 00:16:29 2001 From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 00:16:29 -0000 Subject: FAQs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9g12kt+49jn@eGroups.com> --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "Penny Linsenmayer" wrote: > > Steve, I'm sorry that my composition method is turning into headaches for > you. I will be happy to go back through all my FAQs and change the > footnotes into endnotes manually if this makes sense. Or, is there another > method I could use that would help you out? Is Composer the program that is > part of Netscape? I'm not familiar with it, but I could also try cutting & > pasting my work into that program (or doing whatever is necessary to fix my > documents so that it will be less work for you). Yes, Composer is part of Netscape Communicator. I use it almost exclusively because it makes editing pages extremely easy and fast and doesn't mess with your code the way that FrontPage does. I own FrontPage and several other fancy expensive editors and I always come back to Composer. I need to find out what Paul's conversion program will do before I answer your question about redoing your pages. There's no hurry. I'll let you know when I have a good answer. > > Steve: the Potential Romance Pairings FAQ that you have uploaded is > definitely an old draft as I think Simon pointed out. I've deleted the old > drafts each time I reuploaded a revised one. I'm guessing maybe that you > downloaded that draft to your system some time ago perhaps? Anyway ... we > will definitely want to get the revised one uploaded. Hmmm...I just downloaded everything over from the website two weeks ago. Maybe I had that one downloaded already and just skipped over it without thinking. I'll fix it. > > There is a list of who is doing what FAQ in the Files section somewhere. I'll find it. > > Of course, I cannot do any work myself on any of this until I'm back in my > house. Personal update: we fell victim to the fury of Tropical Storm > Allison on Friday evening/Sat morning Oh my goodness! Penny, I am so glad you're all okay, but what a headache, and at such a time, with the new baby... Brenda and I will be praying for you. Steve From kippesp at swbell.net Sun Jun 10 16:30:38 2001 From: kippesp at swbell.net (Paul M. Kippes) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:30:38 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] more FAQ notes In-Reply-To: <9fv0rb+d657@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010610112444.00a60728@postoffice.swbell.net> At 05:33 AM 6/10/2001 +0000, Steve wrote: >Penny, I just converted your JKR page into HTML and I'm sorry to tell >you that footnotes simply don't translate. I'll have to go through >and edit each footnote into place (or find someone else who would be >willing to do it,not including you). Word is very powerful. HTML >isn't. > >For now, I am doing very little editing. I did change a few minor >things in the Neville page (eg his parents are not BOTH aurors, as >far as we know, just his father). Also, Paul and I decided that we >would leave for now the variations in the way editors included >references, since changing them to be consistent with each other >would be a LOT (in huge, quivering capital letters) of work. For now, >we'll just get the pages done and then we can fix things like that >later. Steve, Did you look at the Hermione FAQ that I translated from Penny's Word document? (It sounds like you might have.) When I thought I would be doing the translation I ran through some test cases and decided that although they wouldn't be consistent, the initial job would be done. Then once the first version of the FAQ was complete, we could go back and generate a more consistent look--ideally from a common set of "source" files. Could you elaborate on how Penny's Word document failed to translate. Too see how I generated the documents with footnotes, see some of my earlier posts. The files and link to the translator tool are in these posts. Paul From kippesp at swbell.net Sun Jun 10 17:03:49 2001 From: kippesp at swbell.net (Paul M. Kippes) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:03:49 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: faq In-Reply-To: <9fvt57+g46c@eGroups.com> References: Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010610115237.00a60858@postoffice.swbell.net> At 01:36 PM 6/10/2001 +0000, Steve wrote: >--- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "Simon" wrote: > > Are we going to be using the logo? I think it was one of my initial versions that had the hat logo--only Steve had seen it. I deemed it too tall to be any place other than the top-level page. Sounds like Steve will be taking care of these types of edits since they are hosted on his site. > > I am a bit confused by the footnotes problem. I, for the time being >at least, > > will leave mine as they are and hope for the best. > >If you let Word do the footnoting, neither the footnote numbers in >the body of the text nor the footnotes themselves are "part" of the >text, they're added by Word on the fly. In other words, when I go >into Word and select "Save as..." to save the document as HTML, the >footnotes all disappear completely. The same thing happens if >I "select all" to grab the text and then cut and paste it into the >HTML document. > >So if you add references using Word's footnote function, your >footnotes will not be included. If you type them yourself integrally >in the text, as endnotes for example, they will cheerfully come right >along during the conversion. True. This is the case if Word is used. Please take a look at this test version of Hermione's FAQ I converted long ago: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/HTML-fied/undressed/hermione_granger-2.html Message #625 references a conversion tool that I felt at the time did a better job a converting Word files to HTML. I remember that it certainly had less "junk." Steve, if you would check the above [undressed] document for "ease of convertibility," I can do similar documents with footnotes with this tool. Again, this wouldn't be necessarily the way it will always be done. Just this time 'round. This can be a fairly automated procedure, so as far as complications, they are minimal. Paul From vderark at bccs.org Mon Jun 11 13:41:31 2001 From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:41:31 -0000 Subject: faq In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010610115237.00a60858@postoffice.swbell.net> Message-ID: <9g2hqb+p9c2@eGroups.com> > > > Are we going to be using the logo? > I think it was one of my initial versions that had the hat logo-- only Steve > had seen it. I deemed it too tall to be any place other than the top-level > page. Sounds like Steve will be taking care of these types of edits since > they are hosted on his site. I added the hat to the main page and linked it to HP4GU. > True. This is the case if Word is used. Please take a look at this test > version of Hermione's FAQ I converted long ago: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/HTML- fied/undressed/hermione_granger-2.html > > Message #625 references a conversion tool that I felt at the time did a > better job a converting Word files to HTML. I remember that it certainly > had less "junk." I checked this out and it does a very nice job, from the looks of the finished document. I'll go back and see if I can find that tool and work on those documents. I'm at work yet today (should be the last day for a while). But that means I won't be doing much online work today. > > Steve, if you would check the above [undressed] document for "ease of > convertibility," I can do similar documents with footnotes with this > tool. Paul, could you run that conversion utility over one of Penny's docs with footnotes and post the results? Then I'll drop them into our page form and we should be all set! Do you have time to do that? Steve From heidit at netbox.com Mon Jun 11 14:13:27 2001 From: heidit at netbox.com (Tandy, Heidi) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:13:27 -0400 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: faq Message-ID: Just a quick note on conversion things - here at my office, we have a prpgram that's a part of MS Word called Metadata Assistant - When you create, open or save a Microsoft Word document, the document may contain information that may contain data that you may not want others outside of your organization to discover. Microsoft refers to this information as metadata, which is used to enhance editing, viewing, filing and retrieving Microsoft Office documents. This information may include: your name, initials, company name, name of your computer, the name of the network server where the document is saved, file properties and summary information, non-visible portions of embedded OLE objects, names of previous authors of the document, document revisions, versions, attached template information, hidden text, and comments. These items are detailed in a Microsoft Knowledge Base article: Q223790 - How to Minimize Metadata in Microsoft Word Documents. Some additional elements that are addresses in our utility are the removal or analysis of fast saves, graphics which it converts to pictures, hyperlinks which could contain confidential information, the removal of a routing slip, built in document properties, custom document properties, document variables, VBA code (enterprise edition). If you want me to run ALL the faqs through this before they are uploaded, then we might have *cleaner* documents to work from in the first place. Please let me know! > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul M. Kippes [mailto:kippesp at swbell.net] > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 1:04 PM > To: HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: faq > > > At 01:36 PM 6/10/2001 +0000, Steve wrote: > >--- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "Simon" wrote: > > > Are we going to be using the logo? > I think it was one of my initial versions that had the hat > logo--only Steve > had seen it. I deemed it too tall to be any place other than > the top-level > page. Sounds like Steve will be taking care of these types > of edits since > they are hosted on his site. > > > > > I am a bit confused by the footnotes problem. I, for the > time being > >at least, > > > will leave mine as they are and hope for the best. > > > >If you let Word do the footnoting, neither the footnote numbers in > >the body of the text nor the footnotes themselves are "part" of the > >text, they're added by Word on the fly. In other words, when I go > >into Word and select "Save as..." to save the document as HTML, the > >footnotes all disappear completely. The same thing happens if > >I "select all" to grab the text and then cut and paste it into the > >HTML document. > > > >So if you add references using Word's footnote function, your > >footnotes will not be included. If you type them yourself integrally > >in the text, as endnotes for example, they will cheerfully come right > >along during the conversion. > True. This is the case if Word is used. Please take a look > at this test > version of Hermione's FAQ I converted long ago: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/HTML-fied/undres sed/hermione_granger-2.html Message #625 references a conversion tool that I felt at the time did a better job a converting Word files to HTML. I remember that it certainly had less "junk." Steve, if you would check the above [undressed] document for "ease of convertibility," I can do similar documents with footnotes with this tool. Again, this wouldn't be necessarily the way it will always be done. Just this time 'round. This can be a fairly automated procedure, so as far as complications, they are minimal. Paul To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From john at walton.to Tue Jun 12 00:27:34 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:27:34 -0400 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: the FAQ is now a web site In-Reply-To: <9g0djq+aa3r@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Steve Vander Ark said: > If anyone knows how to write a nice simple hit counter for us that > will upload easily in Composer, I would be eternally in their debt. If you get a hit counter, I can manually (ie hand-coding, not Composer-coding) slip it into the Composer code. --John ________________________________ John Walton -- john at walton.to Current... Movie: Shrek. 11/10! CD: Shrek Soundtrack ::grin:: Song: "Hallelujah": Rufus Wainwright (from Shrek soundtrack) ________________________________ From vderark at bccs.org Tue Jun 12 04:17:26 2001 From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 04:17:26 -0000 Subject: the FAQ is now a web site In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9g454m+4cv7@eGroups.com> --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., John Walton wrote: > Steve Vander Ark said: > > > If anyone knows how to write a nice simple hit counter for us that > > will upload easily in Composer, I would be eternally in their debt. > > If you get a hit counter, I can manually (ie hand-coding, not > Composer-coding) slip it into the Composer code. > > --John Yeah, I can do that too. It just doesn't upload cleanly, I have to ftp the file to the server instead of just clicking on the publish button. It's not that I can't do it at all, its' just that I can't be as lazy as I usually want to be. Steve From vderark at bccs.org Tue Jun 12 04:18:06 2001 From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 04:18:06 -0000 Subject: the FAQ is now a web site In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9g455u+2u2m@eGroups.com> > > Current... > Movie: Shrek. 11/10! Amen! Or even a 12 out of 10!! Steve From kippesp at swbell.net Tue Jun 12 04:32:56 2001 From: kippesp at swbell.net (P Kippes) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 04:32:56 -0000 Subject: the FAQ is now a web site In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9g461o+rc89@eGroups.com> --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., John Walton wrote: > Steve Vander Ark said: > > > If anyone knows how to write a nice simple hit counter for us that > > will upload easily in Composer, I would be eternally in their debt. > > If you get a hit counter, I can manually (ie hand-coding, not > Composer-coding) slip it into the Composer code. > > --John When I set up the Yahoo! archive site (http://members.nbci.com/hpfg) the provider gave me the code to insert. The counter is at the bottom of the page--I picked the least obtrusive version of the three they offered. The provide I used was http://www.thecounter.com Who knows why I picked them. (Probably because it is sponsored by a trade magazine I read.) But they do offer a no-ad version, and statistics on: browser, resolution, color depth, time of access, country domains, etc. They also offer to e-mail a weekly statistic report. If you're interested in a sample, go ahead an log into the account I made for the Yahoo! index. All the personal information I provided them was invalid. You'd want to set up your own anyway. Login account: 1318949 Password: dippet The counter may be changing their presentation. I see they are plugging a "premium" version that offers a non-visible counter. My account already has this option. No doubt not for long. Paul From kippesp at swbell.net Tue Jun 12 05:36:24 2001 From: kippesp at swbell.net (P Kippes) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 05:36:24 -0000 Subject: Three Penny files converted Message-ID: <9g49oo+tlq7@eGroups.com> I've converted the following FAQs to HTML from the base Word document. Hermione Granger Potential Romantic Pairings Hogwarts They have been placed in the files area under: FAQs/HTML-ified/undressed and have been named based on the filenames given in the master FAQ list. (All technical crud follows) I've been dissappointed with the conversion tool in that: 1. Some formatting is lost mostly in the headings and font size area 2. Indentation is messed up 3. Bullets are underlined But I'm very glad that we don't lose the footnotes that Penny has added. Every other method I tried deleted these--nice to have the additional infomation. About the converter tool: It can still be downloaded at http://piper.ntua.gr/toolkit.html. I've modified the output of the Piper program (with another program) to remove font changes. They were adding a fixed font change on every paragraph. Difficult to make global changes that way. I also changed their style of superscripted footnote to use the bracketed numbers. In removing the superscript footnotes I also am removing any superscripted text. Mainly I saw this in the items such as dates. In all, converting a file such as the Hogwarts takes about 5 minutes from .doc to .html. The Piper program had only one flat-out conversion error. Italics followed immediately by a footnote resulted in the tag not being closed so the rest of the document would be in italics. Not a big deal, but if someone tries to use this some minimal edits may be needed. I'll be on the lookout for how easily these are incorporated and then convert the rest of Penny's. Steve, if there are further things that should be changed in what I'm providing you that would make your job easier, let me know. Paul From vderark at bccs.org Tue Jun 12 12:18:51 2001 From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:18:51 -0000 Subject: Three Penny files converted In-Reply-To: <9g49oo+tlq7@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9g51bb+i5te@eGroups.com> --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "P Kippes" wrote: > I've converted the following FAQs to HTML from the base Word document. > Hermione Granger > Potential Romantic Pairings > Hogwarts > > They have been placed in the files area under: > FAQs/HTML-ified/undressed > and have been named based on the filenames given in the master FAQ > list. Paul, thou art indeed a wizard, strong in power and magic. I exult your name unto the heavens. I'll create a page or two later today (I'm off to the chiropractor right now). Then we shall see the wonders though hast wrought. Uh... Sorry, I came over all biblical for a minute. Guess I need that chiropractor appointment worse than I thought. Steve From heidit at netbox.com Tue Jun 12 13:17:36 2001 From: heidit at netbox.com (Tandy, Heidi) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:17:36 -0400 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: the FAQ is now a web site Message-ID: I use one from http://www.the-counter.net, which gives you access to an *excellent* stats page, but doesn't say the number of people who've been ot the page ON the page, which is kind of fun too. They also havea for-a-small-fee no-ad version, and the weekly reports are excellent. You can see my counter by using heidit at netbox.com with Penny as a password. > -----Original Message----- > From: P Kippes [mailto:kippesp at swbell.net] > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:33 AM > To: HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com > Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: the FAQ is now a web site > > > --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., John Walton wrote: > > Steve Vander Ark said: > > > > > If anyone knows how to write a nice simple hit counter for us that > > > will upload easily in Composer, I would be eternally in their > debt. > > > > If you get a hit counter, I can manually (ie hand-coding, not > > Composer-coding) slip it into the Composer code. > > > > --John > > When I set up the Yahoo! archive site (http://members.nbci.com/hpfg) > the provider gave me the code to insert. The counter is at the > bottom of the page--I picked the least obtrusive version of the three > they offered. The provide I used was http://www.thecounter.com > > Who knows why I picked them. (Probably because it is sponsored by a > trade magazine I read.) But they do offer a no-ad version, and > statistics on: browser, resolution, color depth, time of access, > country domains, etc. They also offer to e-mail a weekly statistic > report. > > If you're interested in a sample, go ahead an log into the account I > made for the Yahoo! index. All the personal information I provided > them was invalid. You'd want to set up your own anyway. > > Login account: 1318949 > Password: dippet > > The counter may be changing their presentation. I see they are > plugging a "premium" version that offers a non-visible counter. My > account already has this option. No doubt not for long. > > Paul > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > From kippesp at swbell.net Tue Jun 12 18:15:44 2001 From: kippesp at swbell.net (Paul M. Kippes) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:15:44 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: the FAQ is now a web site In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010612125636.00a60988@postoffice.swbell.net> At 09:17 AM 6/12/2001 -0400, Heidi wrote: >I use one from http://www.the-counter.net, which gives you access to an >*excellent* stats page, but doesn't say the number of people who've been ot >the page ON the page, which is kind of fun too. They also havea >for-a-small-fee no-ad version, and the weekly reports are excellent. >You can see my counter by using heidit at netbox.com with Penny as a password. The above counter has a nice presentation. Very easy to read and with graphs. Looks like thecounter.com and the-counter.net track the same information too. The FAQ on the-counter.net is enlightening--they keep only the most recent 7 days logs, delete accounts with low hits, etc. Not that the FAQ should have a problem. Answering 'Who are the financial backers of these services?' would be of interest. It would be nice to know that whichever we pick is around for a while. Paul From vderark at bccs.org Wed Jun 13 04:09:35 2001 From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 04:09:35 -0000 Subject: new FAQs uploaded Message-ID: <9g6p1v+u6t1@eGroups.com> I just added the revised Romance FAQ and Penny's Hogwarts FAQ. That conversion utility does a great job, Paul. Now I still should go in and add a table of contents at the top of the Hogwarts one. Steve From kippesp at swbell.net Wed Jun 13 05:26:55 2001 From: kippesp at swbell.net (Paul M. Kippes) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:26:55 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] new FAQs uploaded In-Reply-To: <9g6p1v+u6t1@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010613002445.00a60af8@postoffice.swbell.net> At 04:09 AM 6/13/2001 +0000, Steve wrote: >I just added the revised Romance FAQ and Penny's Hogwarts FAQ. That >conversion utility does a great job, Paul. Now I still should go in >and add a table of contents at the top of the Hogwarts one. > >Steve Excellent. Should I convert all of Penny's the same way? What about other .doc files? Would you be saving time if I converted the whole lot? Paul From kippesp at swbell.net Fri Jun 15 03:46:35 2001 From: kippesp at swbell.net (Paul M. Kippes) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:46:35 -0500 Subject: New files added Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010614221939.00a60df8@postoffice.swbell.net> The following files were converted and added to the html-undressed directory: jkrowling.html fanfiction.html mysteries.html religion.html wwgovernment.html Notes on above files: fanfiction.html I made some formatting changes--unitalicized author names. wwgovernment.html I had some trouble in this file. The underlining, bolding, and italics got a bit crazy in the outline area. I at least fixed this. But the indentation is not right. This is the Piper utility's fault. I don't have Navigator's editor so I didn't try to fix it by hand. That completes the Penny files that I know of. What other files should I slice and dice? Paul From vderark at bccs.org Thu Jun 21 22:12:32 2001 From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 22:12:32 -0000 Subject: new faqs added Message-ID: <9gtrgg+2r5u@eGroups.com> I just added a couple more FAQs, the ones for Hermione and the Mysteries. I didn't do the index thing at the top on these, but I suppose I should go back in and do that when I get a chance. Steve From vderark at bccs.org Fri Jun 22 04:47:04 2001 From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:47:04 -0000 Subject: request for assistance Message-ID: <9guik8+ii7c@eGroups.com> Hey :) I wonder if anyone would have time to help me out. Here's what I need to have done: Change to title to 36-point Arial, centered, bold face. Change to font on any FAQ file that I haven't added yet to 12 point Arial, bold face. Any headings should be in 18 point Arial, bold face. At the top of the page, list the headings in 14 point Arial, bold face, in a bulleted list. Add the editor to the top under the main title, in 18 point bold. Unless you're Paul, don't do any conversion to hTML or anything like that. upload the modified file to the files section of this group, clearly labeled as being modified. Adding the date in 210601 format (meaning 12 June 2001) to the file name would be fine. If you are Paul (Paul, this is for you) then convert these files as they come in, and as necessary, from Word into HTML using that nifty software of yours. I would really appreciate the help. There are thirteen more FAQ pages to create -- the rest aren't finished, apparently, since tney aren't in the files area -- and then we're as far as we can get at this point. If those were all in the correct fonts and sizes and ready for me to paste into Composer, it would really, really speed things up. Thanks Steve From kippesp at swbell.net Fri Jun 22 14:33:52 2001 From: kippesp at swbell.net (P Kippes) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:33:52 -0000 Subject: Counter update Message-ID: <9gvl0g+8nvr@eGroups.com> I received this today. Looks liked the new TheCounter.com won't be the current version. Rotten to lose the online stats. A free version of TheCounter.com will still be available after July 11,2001, but without the premium services such as the invisible counter, online stats, customer support -- and the ability to group multiple TheCounter.com accounts under one login! From pennylin at swbell.net Fri Jun 22 22:52:04 2001 From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:52:04 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] request for assistance References: <9guik8+ii7c@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3B33CC14.59187A98@swbell.net> Hi-- I think I can work this into my schedule and since I wanted to read the other FAQs anyway, I'll volunteer. I assume you want this done in Composer? I've never used that program but will give it a whirl. Wondering if we should do another FAQ status update now that the website is going operational soon? Did anyone (Neil?) ever contact Caius about converting his Dumbledore character sketch into the Dumbledore FAQ? Penny (who is very excited to have the FAQs be so close to being "live") Steve Vander Ark wrote: > > Hey :) > > I wonder if anyone would have time to help me out. Here's what I need > to have done: > > Change to title to 36-point Arial, centered, bold face. > > Change to font on any FAQ file that I haven't added yet to 12 point > Arial, bold face. Any headings should be in 18 point Arial, bold face. > > At the top of the page, list the headings in 14 point Arial, bold > face, in a bulleted list. > > Add the editor to the top under the main title, in 18 point bold. > > Unless you're Paul, don't do any conversion to hTML or anything like > that. > > upload the modified file to the files section of this group, clearly > labeled as being modified. Adding the date in 210601 format (meaning > 12 June 2001) to the file name would be fine. > > If you are Paul (Paul, this is for you) then convert these files as > they come in, and as necessary, from Word into HTML using that nifty > software of yours. > > I would really appreciate the help. There are thirteen more FAQ pages > to create -- the rest aren't finished, apparently, since tney aren't > in the files area -- and then we're as far as we can get at this > point. If those were all in the correct fonts and sizes and ready for > me to paste into Composer, it would really, really speed things up. > > Thanks > Steve > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > [www.newaydirect.com] > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. From vderark at bccs.org Sat Jun 23 02:54:21 2001 From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 02:54:21 -0000 Subject: request for assistance In-Reply-To: <3B33CC14.59187A98@swbell.net> Message-ID: <9h10ct+tu2i@eGroups.com> --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer wrote: > Hi-- > > I think I can work this into my schedule and since I wanted to read the > other FAQs anyway, I'll volunteer. I assume you want this done in > Composer? I've never used that program but will give it a whirl. No, stick with Word. I just think it will save you a lot of headaches. I can convert quite easily. > > Wondering if we should do another FAQ status update now that the website > is going operational soon? > > Did anyone (Neil?) ever contact Caius about converting his Dumbledore > character sketch into the Dumbledore FAQ? I think I'll create dummy pages for each FAQ we actually have, then I can create the links on the main page. We'll be able to see very clearly what's done and what isn't. Also, I really think a search would be great, but I will wait until the site has it's official address before I do that, since I'll have to fill in the URLs to search. > > Penny > (who is very excited to have the FAQs be so close to being "live") Me too! They are SUCH an incredible resource. I am just itching to link to them from the Lexicon! (Is it still going to be okay if I put links in? I'll be identifying them as external links etc.) BTW, is everyone happy with the way this thing is working out? > > Steve Vander Ark wrote: > > > > Hey :) > > > > I wonder if anyone would have time to help me out. Here's what I need > > to have done: > > > > Change to title to 36-point Arial, centered, bold face. > > > > Change to font on any FAQ file that I haven't added yet to 12 point > > Arial, bold face. Any headings should be in 18 point Arial, bold face. > > > > At the top of the page, list the headings in 14 point Arial, bold > > face, in a bulleted list. > > > > Add the editor to the top under the main title, in 18 point bold. > > > > Unless you're Paul, don't do any conversion to hTML or anything like > > that. > > > > upload the modified file to the files section of this group, clearly > > labeled as being modified. Adding the date in 210601 format (meaning > > 12 June 2001) to the file name would be fine. > > > > If you are Paul (Paul, this is for you) then convert these files as > > they come in, and as necessary, from Word into HTML using that nifty > > software of yours. > > > > I would really appreciate the help. There are thirteen more FAQ pages > > to create -- the rest aren't finished, apparently, since tney aren't > > in the files area -- and then we're as far as we can get at this > > point. If those were all in the correct fonts and sizes and ready for > > me to paste into Composer, it would really, really speed things up. > > > > Thanks > > Steve > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > [www.newaydirect.com] > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. From simon at hp.inbox.as Sat Jun 23 09:23:45 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (=?iso-8859-1?q?Simon?=) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 10:23:45 +0100 (BST) Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: request for assistance In-Reply-To: <9h10ct+tu2i@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <20010623092345.92145.qmail@web11006.mail.yahoo.com> Hello all --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer > > Wondering if we should do another FAQ status > > update now that the website > > is going operational soon? Despite all my good intentions of getting some FAQ stuff done in this past week I have instead been busy with other stuff. So it may be best if the Harry and Voldemort FAQs go as they are for now and then I update them at some stage in the future. The Harry FAQ might need a read through first, as I it is definitely my worst written one. Simon ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From pennylin at swbell.net Sat Jun 23 14:37:12 2001 From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 09:37:12 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: request for assistance References: <9h10ct+tu2i@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3B34A998.8023C120@swbell.net> Hi -- Steve Vander Ark wrote: > > --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer > wrote: > > Hi-- > > > > I think I can work this into my schedule and since I wanted to read > the > > other FAQs anyway, I'll volunteer. I assume you want this done in > > Composer? I've never used that program but will give it a whirl. > > No, stick with Word. I just think it will save you a lot of > headaches. I can convert quite easily. I can use Word quite easily. Thanks! That will also make it easier for me to work offline. > > I think I'll create dummy pages for each FAQ we actually have, then I > can create the links on the main page. We'll be able to see very > clearly what's done and what isn't. Also, I really think a search > would be great, but I will wait until the site has it's official > address before I do that, since I'll have to fill in the URLs to > search. This sounds great Steve! And, yes, I'm happy with the way this is shaping up. I too think this will be a fabulous resource. Penny From pennylin at swbell.net Sat Jun 23 21:46:52 2001 From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 16:46:52 -0500 Subject: FAQ Updates?? References: <9h10ct+tu2i@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3B350E4C.EA75B142@swbell.net> Hi everyone -- I have downloaded into Word all the drafts that Simon has up, as well as the 3 FAQs that Neil uploaded. I did not download Goat's Neville FAQ since I think Steve has already worked with that one -- is that right, Steve? I didn't do anything with the 3 or so FAQs that Heidi had put up back in October as I assume these might need to be updated. True? Wondering if we could get ETAs on some of the outstanding FAQs. Some of our FAQ'ers have disappeared and others are about to disappear temporarily (Ebony!). Any chance we might hear how progress is coming on some of the uncompleted ones? :::not so subtle cough::: I will make Steve's formatting changes & reupload them sometime tomorrow or next day. Oh, I'm also making those same formatting changes to my FAQs that Steve hasn't already mentioned fixing. Does that sound like I'm on the right track and doing what needs to be done? Penny From vderark at bccs.org Sun Jun 24 03:48:07 2001 From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 03:48:07 -0000 Subject: FAQ Updates?? In-Reply-To: <3B350E4C.EA75B142@swbell.net> Message-ID: <9h3ntn+8pqf@eGroups.com> --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer wrote: > Hi everyone -- > > I have downloaded into Word all the drafts that Simon has up, as well as > the 3 FAQs that Neil uploaded. I did not download Goat's Neville FAQ > since I think Steve has already worked with that one -- is that right, > Steve? Yep, Neville is done. > > I will make Steve's formatting changes & reupload them sometime tomorrow > or next day. Oh, I'm also making those same formatting changes to my > FAQs that Steve hasn't already mentioned fixing. Does that sound like > I'm on the right track and doing what needs to be done? Yes, it does. I'll check the files. I just created all the pages on the site for which we have text, as far as I can tell. Click through the links if you get a chance. Now I'll take the Word files that Penny is making, convert them to HTML, copy the text, and paste it into the empty pages. Then I'll turn the heading list into an index with targets on each heading and we'll be done for now. At that point shall we open the FAQ for list members to preview? As for any missing FAQ files, are they all assigned? Who ever is working on them, can you take a look at the way I'm formatting them and use that style? If you don't, we'll still take them, of course :) Steve From neilward at dircon.co.uk Sun Jun 24 06:20:15 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 07:20:15 +0100 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] FAQ Updates?? References: <9h10ct+tu2i@eGroups.com> <3B350E4C.EA75B142@swbell.net> Message-ID: <003d01c0fc75$d26e6fc0$e63570c2@c5s910j> Penny said: <> Oooh. Have I uploaded three? I thought I'd only put up Ron and Magical Devices... <> Firstly, I haven't finished my FAQ duties yet, because I put them to one side in favour of doing other things (and I am going through yet another busy period at work at the moment). I intended to come back to them sooner than now, but developments on the website are giving me a kick in the nether regions, so to speak. _Quidditch and McGonagall are still in the nearly finished state I left them in several months ago. A couple of weeks ago I began collecting relevant messages since 15th Jan into my topic folders, so I should be able to update those two FAQs and get them posted up. QTTA will have had some impact on the Quidditch FAQ, and I can now link to Simon's recent essay. I'm going to set myself a deadline of next weekend for those two. _Updates to Ron and Mag Devices. The Ron FAQ may need some changes in light of recent discussions. Recent discussions on the Portkey and Map seemed to repeat what we'd said before... _Snape and Spells&Charms are still just notes at the moment. I did the Snape character summary for discussion on the list, which will help focus that one. However, the number of messages on Snape is huge. I'm sure there are many repeated ideas in there, and that it won't be so bad once I get stuck in. ETA: I aim to get these done before 10th August, as I will be vanishing to the US for two weeks after that. There are a few others in various states of repair.. _Wizarding World: General - I have collected quite a diverse list of messages on things like the nature of magic, genetics etc. into folders on Outlook Express. _CoS - I have gathered some messages that obviously relate to CoS into a folder, but haven't done anything with them. _Accents - I had a short FAQ on accents - could be updated I think - but the points were going to be included under the relevant character FAQs. Who is doing Hagrid, BTW? _Movie/Casting - messages collected. I gave up trying to note down all the casting suggestions... I need to think about this one; what to include etc. There's a lot of stuff along the lines of "I am worried that the film won't do the book justice" or "I can't wait to see it" and quite a bit that is really news about the film (and those details are available elsewhere). I don't know that it's sensible to try to piece together speculation on the trailer that will become pointless as soon as the film comes out. I would do something on the FAQs today, but I have some work to get done before tomorrow morning, so no opportunity. Neil From kippesp at swbell.net Mon Jun 25 08:01:30 2001 From: kippesp at swbell.net (Paul M. Kippes) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 03:01:30 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] FAQ Updates?? In-Reply-To: <003d01c0fc75$d26e6fc0$e63570c2@c5s910j> References: <9h10ct+tu2i@eGroups.com> <3B350E4C.EA75B142@swbell.net> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010625025933.00a5aee8@postoffice.swbell.net> At 01:20 AM 6/24/2001, Neil wrote: >Penny said: > ><the 3 FAQs that Neil uploaded.>> > >Oooh. Have I uploaded three? I thought I'd only put up Ron and Magical >Devices... Stepped away for a few days I see and things got a bit moving. Monday I'll look for files in need of conversion and do it then. Paul From HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com Tue Jun 26 16:01:03 2001 From: HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com (HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com) Date: 26 Jun 2001 16:01:03 -0000 Subject: New file uploaded to HP4GU-FAQ Message-ID: <993571263.9108.56193.f6@yahoogroups.com> Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the HP4GU-FAQ group. File : /FAQs/ANIMALS.25-06-01.doc Uploaded by : pennylin at swbell.net Description : Reformatted & edited Animals FAQ You can access this file at the URL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/FAQs/ANIMALS.25-06-01.doc To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, pennylin at swbell.net From HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com Tue Jun 26 16:01:41 2001 From: HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com (HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com) Date: 26 Jun 2001 16:01:41 -0000 Subject: New file uploaded to HP4GU-FAQ Message-ID: <993571301.6054.56075.f6@yahoogroups.com> Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the HP4GU-FAQ group. File : /FAQs/Dursleys.25-06-01.doc Uploaded by : pennylin at swbell.net Description : Reformatted & edited Dursleys FAQ You can access this file at the URL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/FAQs/Dursleys.25-06-01.doc To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, pennylin at swbell.net From kippesp at swbell.net Wed Jun 27 04:55:46 2001 From: kippesp at swbell.net (P Kippes) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 04:55:46 -0000 Subject: HTML update Message-ID: <9hbp0i+u684@eGroups.com> I've converted the two files Penny uploaded earlier today (animals and dursleys). From vderark at bccs.org Wed Jun 27 12:50:24 2001 From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:50:24 -0000 Subject: HTML update In-Reply-To: <9hbp0i+u684@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9hckqg+jpe2@eGroups.com> --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "P Kippes" wrote: > I've converted the two files Penny uploaded earlier today (animals > and dursleys). Thank! I'll try to get those finished today. I have a bathroom to paint first (yee-haw!) Steve :) From pennylin at swbell.net Wed Jun 27 15:33:36 2001 From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:33:36 -0500 Subject: Questions Message-ID: <3B39FCD0.F44A750C@swbell.net> Hi -- I was looking at our FAQ site in progress and had a few questions for the techies: 1. Can the JKR FAQ be redone with the new converter so that my footnotes are included? 2. The Hogwarts FAQ: I used tabs to separate the professors from the courses they teach in the Teachers section. The tabs didn't make it in the HTML process so could one of the techies add in some separation of some sort? 3. The Mysteries FAQ -- the numbers are underlined along with the subtopics. Do we care? Is it hard to change? 4. Neil is the editor to be filled in on the Ron & Magical Devices FAQs. Will look at it more later & probably have more comments. This is very exciting though! Penny From vderark at bccs.org Wed Jun 27 20:39:07 2001 From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 20:39:07 -0000 Subject: Questions In-Reply-To: <3B39FCD0.F44A750C@swbell.net> Message-ID: <9hdg9b+odkf@eGroups.com> --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer wrote: > Hi -- > > I was looking at our FAQ site in progress and had a few questions for > the techies: > > 1. Can the JKR FAQ be redone with the new converter so that my > footnotes are included? Paul, is this one you've done? Did I miss it? > > 2. The Hogwarts FAQ: I used tabs to separate the professors from the > courses they teach in the Teachers section. The tabs didn't make it in > the HTML process so could one of the techies add in some separation of > some sort? No problem. > > 3. The Mysteries FAQ -- the numbers are underlined along with the > subtopics. Do we care? Is it hard to change? I'll look at it. I don't usually use underlining on web pages because it looks like a link (most browsers are set to underline links). I think I just left it out of general laziness :) > > 4. Neil is the editor to be filled in on the Ron & Magical Devices > FAQs. Danke. > > Will look at it more later & probably have more comments. This is very > exciting though! Great. As long as you don't want the pages totally redesigned or something. Ideally, the styles should match on each page, but I don't know if I caught every difference, especially on the ones that had already been created in HTML. I won't be working on this until at least tonight, maybe not until tomorrow. We're redoing our bathroom and I have been painting and sanding and building shelves. Steve From kippesp at swbell.net Wed Jun 27 23:16:41 2001 From: kippesp at swbell.net (Paul M. Kippes) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:16:41 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Questions In-Reply-To: <9hdg9b+odkf@eGroups.com> References: <3B39FCD0.F44A750C@swbell.net> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010627181436.02a5d5e8@postoffice.swbell.net> At 03:39 PM 6/27/2001, Steve wrote: >--- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer >wrote: > > Hi -- > > > > I was looking at our FAQ site in progress and had a few questions >for > > the techies: > > > > 1. Can the JKR FAQ be redone with the new converter so that my > > footnotes are included? > >Paul, is this one you've done? Did I miss it? Yes. I just checked and I did upload a footnote version located in the usual place. I don't always pay close attention so let me know if you notice an FAQ that still needs to be converted of updated. Paul From kippesp at swbell.net Wed Jun 27 23:28:19 2001 From: kippesp at swbell.net (Paul M. Kippes) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:28:19 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] request for assistance In-Reply-To: <9guik8+ii7c@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010627181930.02a68e08@postoffice.swbell.net> At 11:47 PM 6/21/2001, Steve wrote: >Hey :) > >I wonder if anyone would have time to help me out. Here's what I need >to have done: > >Change to title to 36-point Arial, centered, bold face. > >Change to font on any FAQ file that I haven't added yet to 12 point >Arial, bold face. Any headings should be in 18 point Arial, bold face. > >At the top of the page, list the headings in 14 point Arial, bold >face, in a bulleted list. > >Add the editor to the top under the main title, in 18 point bold. I'm stripping out font changes from the output I get from the word processor. I was getting a font tag on every paragraph. I thought that would facilitate a single tag that could wrap the entire FAQ. So if this fomatting is in Word, I've not been careful in insuring that point size is converted as well. In other words, it may be best if work with the converted HTML file (located in the undressed folder) to do the final touch-up work. I'll look at the animals FAQ in a bit and do some touch-up. I had a bit of trouble with that one. Paul From simon at hp.inbox.as Thu Jun 28 09:32:47 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Simon) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:32:47 +0100 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] request for assistance In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010627181930.02a68e08@postoffice.swbell.net> Message-ID: Paul: <<>> This is one of mine. Is it the only one to cause problems? Or is it something I am doing that will make all of them difficult to convert? If the later then let me know and I will try to change whatever the problem is (if we can identify it). Simon _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From kippesp at swbell.net Thu Jun 28 23:38:16 2001 From: kippesp at swbell.net (P Kippes) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 23:38:16 -0000 Subject: request for assistance In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9hgf58+6l3c@eGroups.com> --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "Simon" wrote: > Paul: << bit of trouble with that one.>>> > > This is one of mine. Is it the only one to cause problems? Or is it something > I am doing that will make all of them difficult to convert? If the later then > let me know and I will try to change whatever the problem is (if we can > identify it). > I got it worked out I think. The way I first set things up I made some assumptions and had to figure MS Word out a bit. Don't worry about it; my language was harsher than it should have been. Paul From vderark at bccs.org Fri Jun 29 05:22:28 2001 From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 05:22:28 -0000 Subject: new additions Message-ID: <9hh3ak+8bpu@eGroups.com> I just added the Animal Characters and Dursley Family FAQs. Thanks to all who helped get them ready. BTW, don't put bullets in front of the list of topics. I'll do that when I convert it. Just list them, one after the other. Thanks again! I'll head back in tomorrow and fix/edit/update. Steve