From kippesp at swbell.net Thu Mar 1 09:00:11 2001 From: kippesp at swbell.net (P Kippes) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 09:00:11 -0000 Subject: Proofing Religion FAQ Message-ID: <97l32r+tf88@eGroups.com> Is it okay to submit corrections to the FAQ just by posting? I'll give it a try. I felt the following item should be changed in the religion.doc FAQ. ********** She has said she is not a Wiccan. ---------- Replace first "she" with Ms. Rowling, JKR, JK, or some such. I know it is clear this is whom we're talking about, but just thought first usage warranted her name. ********** I had another, but I looked it up and--hey--I was wrong! Paul From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk Sat Mar 10 14:58:03 2001 From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:58:03 -0000 Subject: test Message-ID: This is just me testing something. I have nothing to say of any real importance. Simon From kippesp at swbell.net Sun Mar 11 01:16:02 2001 From: kippesp at swbell.net (Paul M. Kippes) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 19:16:02 -0600 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] test In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20010310191513.02b5e6c0@postoffice.swbell.net> At 02:58 PM 3/10/2001 +0000, Simon wrote: >This is just me testing something. I have nothing to say of any real >importance. > > >Simon I was beginning to wonder if I had my filters set wrong or something. :) From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk Sun Mar 11 16:04:03 2001 From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 16:04:03 -0000 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] test In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20010310191513.02b5e6c0@postoffice.swbell.net> Message-ID: Me: "This is just me testing something. I have nothing to say of any real importance." Paul: "I was beginning to wonder if I had my filters set wrong or something. :)" I picked this group for the test, as it seemed to have had no messages recently. The test was to see if you could set up reply to options in the e-mail, to automatically decide where the reply will go. Unfortunately you cannot, as Yahoo strips them out and puts its own ones in. Simon From HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com Tue Mar 13 01:56:59 2001 From: HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com (HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com) Date: 13 Mar 2001 01:56:59 -0000 Subject: New file uploaded to HP4GU-FAQ Message-ID: <984448619.4764.30027.a8@yahoogroups.com> Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the HP4GU-FAQ group. File : /FAQs/Neville FAQ.htm Uploaded by : Aberforths_Goat at Yahoo.com Description : Hullo chaps! I've just uploaded my first FAQ draft on Neville. I'd appreciate any comments, tips, pointers and complaints! BTW, I saved it as an htm file in Word 2000. Since I know next to nothing about html, the page currently takes up the entire screen. Apologies! You can access this file at the URL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/FAQs/Neville%20FAQ.htm To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, Aberforths_Goat at Yahoo.com From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk Fri Mar 23 19:39:18 2001 From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 19:39:18 -0000 Subject: FAQ status report Message-ID: Hello Thought I may as well say how I was getting on with my FAQs as I have finally found time in the last couple of days to get some work done on them. I am having a bad week, but for some unknown reason the work on the FAQs have been going well. This term I have been concentrating on writing the Harry FAQ and it has been annoyingly difficult. This culminated in me have a type of writers block (can you get writers block for something like this?) for a few weeks, which annoyed me no end. The main stumbling block seemed to be in writing the section on whether or not Harry counts as having been abused. I contributed loads of messages to this section but when it came to commenting on them I ad no idea where to start or how to handle it. In the end I managed to get something down, which will need some editing before it is finished but it is a start. At this stage I should probably thank Radiohead and REM, their music being what I listened to while writing this portion of the FAQ. The Harry FAQ is 2/3 done from the notes I have already made. The Voldemort FAQ needs typing. I have concentrated on getting the Harry FAQ done first. In the last two days I have looked through the more recent messages (about 5,500 of them) and now know which need to be incorporated into my FAQs. I have close on 40 pages of messages to read through and retrieve stuff to put in the FAQs from. The main bulk of these are to go in Harry and Voldemort FAQs, so hopefully the others will be updated with little hassle. The only technicality is that I have shelved the Predictions FAQ. This is not something I wanted to do, but I have only got it done from club messages and to look through the group for stuff to put in would be too time consuming at the moment. Luckily this is one of the less important FAQs, so it is less of a problem. I run off home tomorrow, so will be taking little notice of what is going on in HP land for a few weeks, and probably months, as when I get back I will be revising for finals. Hopefully my FAQs will be finished in the next couple of days. I may create a folder in the files section to store some files in. I am likely leaving my computer here and need an easy way to get the FAQ stuff I have already done home and this is probably a better option than trying to e-mail it. Hope everyone is well and things are going ok. Simon From pennylin at swbell.net Sat Mar 24 03:31:57 2001 From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 21:31:57 -0600 Subject: Calling more FAQ Status Reports References: Message-ID: <3ABC152D.54190BD1@swbell.net> Hi -- Thanks to Simon for the FAQ status report. Sounds like you are in good shape! BTW, I emphathize with the numbers of messages to trudge through. There were tons of messages where Hermione's name popped up, but she was not at all the subject. But, it was hard to devise a search that would cover messages that discussed Hermione & weren't just a mention of her name. Can we have status reports from everyone else -- namely Carole, Ebony & Margaret? We haven't heard from any of you in awhile. How do you stand? Do you have an ETA? Can we hear from the techies -- namely Steve & Heidi. Are we still planning to upload the FAQs to the Lexicon site, or since we now have a website, are we going to upload there instead? When can we begin uploading, and who is in charge? Here's my report. Hogwarts is the only one left on my plate. I've been through the Yahoo Club messages & almost all the egroups/yahoogroups messages at this point. I have some notes from all the books except GoF. I figure I will draft out a FAQ without worrying about going through GoF at this point, since I also plan to provide a link to the Lexicon. I need to do minor updating on Wizarding Govt (from the schoolbooks), Romance, Religion, Fanfic, and Mysteries. I suspect I may have more than minor updating to do on Hermione since we are slated to discuss her next week. JKR & Universal Appeal of HP are pretty much ready to go I think. So .... I plan to finish Hogwarts in the next 3-5 days. I plan to update everything except Hermione after that. I will update Hermione as soon as discussion dies down. I *hope* to have all this done before Baby Linsenmayer arrives. > The only technicality is that I have shelved the Predictions FAQ. This > is > not something I wanted to do, but I have only got it done from club > messages and to look through the group for stuff to put in would be > too > time consuming at the moment. Luckily this is one of the less > important > FAQs, so it is less of a problem. I wouldn't worry much about Predictions. We'll get more Predictions material as time moves on anyway. I'll be much happier to have Harry & Voldemort FAQs than Predictions. :--) > I may create a folder in the files section to store some > files in. I am likely leaving my computer here and need an easy way to > get the FAQ stuff I have already done home and this is probably a > better option than trying to e-mail it. Great! Be sure to at least leave drafts of as much as you can so in case you disappear for an extended period, we could work with your drafts. > Hope everyone is well and things are going ok. Thanks Simon! Baby Linsenmayer is making me think she wants to come out soon -- lots of kicking & stretching & such all week long. She may also be trying to reassure me that she's fine since we know a couple whose baby died en route to the hospital from their home on Wed morning. The cord had wrapped tightly around his leg as he dropped into the birth canal & choked off his oxygen supply. By the time they realized there was a problem, it was too late. It's been an emotional roller-coaster week to say the least. Penny -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk Sun Mar 25 21:42:36 2001 From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:42:36 +0100 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Calling more FAQ Status Reports In-Reply-To: <3ABC152D.54190BD1@swbell.net> Message-ID: Penny: "Thanks to Simon for the FAQ status report. Sounds like you are in good shape! BTW, I emphathize with the numbers of messages to trudge through. There were tons of messages where Hermione's name popped up, but she was not at all the subject. But, it was hard to devise a search that would cover messages that discussed Hermione & weren't just a mention of her name." I gave up trying to search. Typing Harry into the search brings up far too many messages to make the search viable. Especially as many of these messages are irrelevant to my FAQs. I ended up using expanded messages (100 per screen) and scanning for key words in messages and by subject line. I do not guarantee to have got all messages, but got most without too much difficulty. Penny: "I wouldn't worry much about Predictions. We'll get more Predictions material as time moves on anyway. I'll be much happier to have Harry & Voldemort FAQs than Predictions. :--)" Thanks. I am aiming to get those done in the next week. Then have a bit of sleep. Penny "Great! Be sure to at least leave drafts of as much as you can so in case you disappear for an extended period, we could work with your drafts." I have uploaded my most recent drafts to the FAQ folder and added a folder (called Simon's stuff (I think this is what I called it)) to create a backup of the stuff I needed to bring home. In the end it did not matter as I had enough room in the car for the computer as well, but I wasn't sure this was going to be the case so had to assume I would be transferring to using my parents computer (and that would have been easier by uploading/downloading of files than finding a disc or e-mailing the files). Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pennylin at swbell.net Thu Mar 29 14:14:44 2001 From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:14:44 -0600 Subject: FAQs: Where & When??? Message-ID: <3AC34353.1BC6F615@swbell.net> Hi everyone -- I didn't get much response to my query last week. Have you all gone to webview on this group? Are we posting the FAQs to the Lexicon site or to the new website (which I still haven't looked at)? When can we start posting the completed FAQs? Who is in charge of this project? I ask because alot of SHIP questions would possibly/probably be avoided if the Potential Romance Pairings FAQ was up. I know lots of people are anxious to reduce the SHIP volume. Hint, hint. I can't really take charge of this aspect because (a) timing and (b) lack of technical skills or knowledge. I have no idea how to HTML a document other than to have Word do it. I don't know *anything* about setting up a website. Can someone step up & take ownership of this aspect? Please. Please. Done begging for the day -- I promise. :--) Penny From heidit at netbox.com Thu Mar 29 14:30:11 2001 From: heidit at netbox.com (heidit at netbox.com) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:30:11 -0000 Subject: FAQs: Where & When??? In-Reply-To: <3AC34353.1BC6F615@swbell.net> Message-ID: <99vgtj+2vjs@eGroups.com> Should I cross post this to the moderator group? Forward it there? --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer wrote: > > Are we posting the FAQs to the Lexicon site or to the new website (which > I still haven't looked at)? When can we start posting the completed > FAQs? Who is in charge of this project? We need a game plan First thing to do is decide where we want this site hosted - can we just point the domain names I registered last week over to the St Andrews server? Or will we be hosting this on Steve's server. Someone, just decide. Second, we need to have have someone go over to the domain name host company and change the server information - I have the password & user name but don't want to post it - anyone who wants it, email me privately. Third, we need to have someone configure a page that links to the FAQs which are currently done, lists the as yet unfinished FAQs, links to the various HELP files & our sibling groups AND has the MODERATOR email address on it. We also need an HTML frame for all the subsequent pages, which contains links to the FAQs, the front page and the email address. Both the front page & the frames ALSO need to have the copyright notice AND link to the IP/LIcense alnguage I've already put together (last week messages on moderator list). My HTML skills are pretty lame, though, so I don't want to create this, although I certainly can turn the "text" files into HTML documents, complete with the links - so they can be FRAMED on the site, in all those subsequent pages.Don't forget - we can now use certain things from the WEBMASTER portion of the WB site. Is there anything I'm forgetting? From neilward at dircon.co.uk Thu Mar 29 20:37:52 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:37:52 +0100 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] FAQs: Where & When??? References: <3AC34353.1BC6F615@swbell.net> Message-ID: <005d01c0b890$35bf3a20$253670c2@c5s910j> Penny said: > I didn't get much response to my query last week. Have you all gone to > webview on this group? Gulp. I'm still with it - I just haven't made much progress since I last posted and didn't fancy sidling in sheepishly just to say that. I really had a mental barrier up against the FAQs for a while, so I decided not to think about them for a few weeks. Then I got busy at work...then I went to NY for a week ... then I started thinking about the gazillion posts made since my last attempt at a draft.... OK, apologetic rant over. Thankfully, I have a bit more free time now and can get back to the job in hand. The recent message volume has swamped me, so I'm sticking to my plan to review up to mid-Jan 2001 on my topics, get something down, and then decide what to do with the later stuff. I'm glad I did the Snape sketch - at least that will help me focus on that FAQ. I could just about deal with the website stuff, but I have to be sensible for once and say that I really don't have the time for it. I also think there are others around with much better skills than I have. Penny, if no one here has the time to devote to this, perhaps we should put out a call to the main list to see if there are any IT whizzkids or web designers among the new intake (or the old crowd). Neil From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk Thu Mar 29 22:48:13 2001 From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:48:13 +0100 Subject: faqs Message-ID: Hello I have uploaded the updated Wands and Crookshanks (a.k.a. Animal Characters) FAQs to the group. The others are following, but have been delayed by fanfic overload in the last couple of days (points finger at Ebony, Carole and Penny). Neil: "I could just about deal with the website stuff, but I have to be sensible for once and say that I really don't have the time for it. I also think there are others around with much better skills than I have. Penny, if no one here has the time to devote to this, perhaps we should put out a call to the main list to see if there are any IT whizzkids or web designers among the new intake (or the old crowd)." I also don't feel I have the time to dedicate to this. It would be interesting to see the response to the website query if put to the group, but I guess the main decision here would have to be made by Steve/John depending on which was hosting the site and what they felt about people writing websites to be put on their computer server space. Simon From kippesp at swbell.net Fri Mar 30 00:11:16 2001 From: kippesp at swbell.net (Paul M. Kippes) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:11:16 -0600 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] faqs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010329174913.02be9008@postoffice.swbell.net> At 11:48 PM 3/29/2001 +0100, Simon wrote: >I also don't feel I have the time to dedicate to this. It would be >interesting to see the response to the website query if put to the group, >but I guess the main decision here would have to be made by Steve/John >depending on which was hosting the site and what they felt about people >writing websites to be put on their computer server space. I can certainly assist in the conversion part. (I did some tests earlier and felt that there were no problems, so halted. Also, the FAQs being in flux suggested wasted effort.) Nevertheless, I agree with Simon that the hosting location needs to be finalized. The HTML can not _truly_ be completed until this is known (Mainly because of the cross linking involved.) I guess I thought this stuff was going on Steve's site even though I don't recall a definitive message. I can go on at length on why a non-Yahoo, non-Excite, etc. site should be selected. Therefore, it may be best that if Steve's site is unable (too full) to accommodate the FAQ material, a general request to the group at large should be done asking for a host or host recommendations. (Someone may also be able to suggest a free host that is reasonable, reliable, and flexible--I don't know of any.) (Heidi's post mentioned a St. Andrews site. I must have missed this discussion. Don't know what this is referring to.) With a site selected a single person should be used to define a site structure (A "behind the scenes" TOC with file names, directories, etc.). This is required to complete the cross reference links. Once this definition is complete, the final HTML pages can be completed. I am here. I can assist. But I will not duplicate efforts. I would also enjoy giving tons of time to this in about 6 weeks. pk From kippesp at swbell.net Fri Mar 30 00:20:51 2001 From: kippesp at swbell.net (P Kippes) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:20:51 -0000 Subject: Temporary hosting Message-ID: <9a0jh3+6tc4@eGroups.com> As I wait for my previous post. . . . I have a server at home that can be used to get something up and running. But it could not be long term. But while we search for a server, this would be possible. .....now where has my rude message gone? From john at walton.to Fri Mar 30 03:13:27 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:13:27 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] faqs In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010329174913.02be9008@postoffice.swbell.net> Message-ID: Paul M. Kippes said: > (Heidi's post > mentioned a St. Andrews site. I must have missed this discussion. Don't > know what this is referring to.) That's what HPFGU.org.uk is currently pointing to -- it's the free webspace I get as a student at St As. And no, we're not publicising that, especially since we've got HarryPotterforGrownups.com! --John From kippesp at swbell.net Sat Mar 31 00:16:33 2001 From: kippesp at swbell.net (P Kippes) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:16:33 -0000 Subject: Assistance from the FAQ writers Message-ID: <9a37l1+bscm@eGroups.com> I forgot something else. More like a request. It would be nice to have some knowledge of what the status is of a particular FAQ file. I'll write up a database of what I think is required to maintain consistancy and to make sure that the correct file (.doc, .txt, .html, .whatever) is changed. From kippesp at swbell.net Sat Mar 31 01:39:51 2001 From: kippesp at swbell.net (P Kippes) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 01:39:51 -0000 Subject: Status field Message-ID: <9a3ch7+beld@eGroups.com> Database: I've taken Penny's original "Master List of FAQs" and added 4 columns beyond the Title & Author fields: "status", "HTML Filename", "InWork Filename", and "C." "C" is short for "converted." I also combined the Potter topic to "Potter, James & Lily" since it was written as one FAQ topic. What does status mean? ? - Unknown unfinished - The FAQ author is still writing the "in work" file. reviewing - The "in work" file is currently being reviewed/revised or is in some other way unstable. ready - Ready to convert to final HTML format converting - Someone is currently converting the file to HTML done - Conversion to HTML has been compleated I'm sure some of you are frustrated at the effort in the completion of this project and this kind of crud is unnecessary. But I feel it (simplistic as it is) helps to prevent frustration or mistakes such as editing the wrong file and such. I imagine Penny & Heidi also use some sort of document control mechanism with their legal documents and can see what I'm trying to acheive. Directories/Filenames: Feel free to change. But, please, no spaces or uppercase letters. I didn't see a need to complicate the issue with subdirectories. However, the entire FAQ should be placed in something like a directory. The links could then be actually finalized. Such as: http://www.HarryPotterforGrownups.com/faq/hgranger.html I'm going to go with this, and make the change to the db. (With this defined, the links can be finalized independent of the server's name.) Help from Penny: I didn't know where to place "Universal Appeal of Harry Potter.rev.doc" Concern: I think I've said enough. From kippesp at swbell.net Sat Mar 31 02:02:02 2001 From: kippesp at swbell.net (P Kippes) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 02:02:02 -0000 Subject: Stupid me Message-ID: <9a3dqq+apvc@eGroups.com> I forgot that I have webspace from my internet provider. That would be a place to host a test site until a final server is selected. From Aberforths_Goat at Yahoo.com Sat Mar 31 16:42:09 2001 From: Aberforths_Goat at Yahoo.com (Aberforth's Goat) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 18:42:09 +0200 Subject: Neville FAQ References: <9a3dqq+apvc@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <00d801c0ba01$875915f0$2271023e@shasta> I posted my first draft of my Neville Longbottom FAQ a couple of weeks back. Has anyone had a chance to have a look at it? I'd appreciate any comments, since I plan to get to work on another FAQ again next week and would appreciate any pointers. (Three months ago I claimed I'd have them all donw within a month. My apologies ... ) Questions: - It's fairly short. Is it skimpy? I haven't included a character sketch, but referred reader to others already written. - How up-to-date do we want these to be? There are already quite a few new Neville posts I could hunt down and index in. (Though I don't believe I've seen any earth shaking new interpretations.) - I also posted it in HTML (generated by Frontpage). Is that OK or should I have left it in Word form? Here's the link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/FAQs/Neville%20FAQ.htm Mike Gray From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk Sat Mar 31 21:14:26 2001 From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:14:26 +0100 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Neville FAQ In-Reply-To: <00d801c0ba01$875915f0$2271023e@shasta> Message-ID: The Goat: "I posted my first draft of my Neville Longbottom FAQ a couple of weeks back. Has anyone had a chance to have a look at it? I'd appreciate any comments, since I plan to get to work on another FAQ again next week and would appreciate any pointers. (Three months ago I claimed I'd have them all donw within a month. My apologies ... )" I have just got round to reading it and have a couple of comments to make. Sorry I didn't look at it sooner, it slipped my mind. I will answer the comments first and then make a couple of comments on the FAQ below. I wouldn't worry about apologising for lateness. I was hoping to have everything wrapped up by the beginning of October. That is now looking like quite a good comment, shame about it being a year out. I have had a quick look at the database Paul has done. This seems a good idea to me. I have updated it to reflect the fact that the Harry FAQ uploaded is only an in progress draft. It is there so I have a back up copy. Computers do occasionally go wrong and I have no intention of losing this FAQ as it has taken a lot of my time already. Mike: "It's fairly short. Is it skimpy? I haven't included a character sketch, but referred reader to others already written." It seems about right for the character in question. It looks of a similar length to the Dursley and Wand FAQs that I have done. It is of similar importance so I guess this length is about right. At the end of the day the number of messages written on the character will control the length. If nothing has been written then we get a short FAQ and if we have lots (c.f. Harry) then the FAQ ends up being very, very long. I similarly link to the character summaries done for the group and I think this to be the best option. Mike: "How up-to-date do we want these to be? There are already quite a few new Neville posts I could hunt down and index in. (Though I don't believe I've seen any earth shaking new interpretations.)" I am working to message 15000, or there abouts. This was the number of messages when I left Oxford last week and hence when I last went through looking for messages for my FAQs. Before this I had gone through up until message 9000. Over the last few days I have updated the FAQs I have already done and this I found to be a lot easier than doing them for the first time. I now have four of them done. Mike: "I also posted it in HTML (generated by Frontpage). Is that OK or should I have left it in Word form?" Thinking about this it may be better in html format. John uses a mac and I am not certain if he can read Word files or not. If not then it would be more helpful to stick with html, which he can read. From what I have seen and heard he is a fairly good at proof reading and the more people that can check through and make comments the better (relying on me, as a mathematician with little ability in regards to the English language, is not a totally reliable idea). I plan to convert all mine to html as well (might happen one day!). Maybe an even better option is to put the files up in both formats. Then each person can look at and correct the easiest format for them, and as long as they make sure it is known about which version they have looked at then things should be ok. Neville FAQ: In the Neville's Character section you have written, in the second paragraph, 'True, Peter is frightened of Snape'. I believe that this should be 'True, Neville is frightened of Snape'. There is no link to the fortitude essay by Peg. It is message 4797, if my notes are correct. I am not happy with the use of the word triumvirate, but will leave that argument for now (I have written messages on PoU, HpfGU or both about this). It may be worth linking to another comment that explains about the FFA clinic. Else anyone new to the group, or reading these documents with no knowledge of Neil, will not have a clue what this is going on about. Simon