From pennylin at swbell.net  Mon May 20 14:14:30 2002
From: pennylin at swbell.net (plinsenmayer)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 14:14:30 -0000
Subject: Updates .... Updates Anyone?
Message-ID: <acb0c6+9huv@eGroups.com>

Hi all --

To avoid this being on Cindy's Task List for the Mods for the 5th
Monday running, I'm getting this out just under the wire.  <g>

We would like to do several things with the FAQs:

(1) Get updates from everyone as to when they expect to have a draft
or completed product; and 

(2) (a) Solicit some technical assistance for getting the FAQs that
are completed moved over to the hp4gu.org.uk site.  

(b) Along these lines, I was wondering if anyone with the techie
know-how would care to write up a very basic set of guidelines for
updating & maintaining existing FAQs.  If I don't know anything about
HTML, can't I be given some very basic step-by-step instructions for
pulling up the document in a program where it can be revised and for
adding in sentences, paragraphs, references, etc. for purposes of
updating existing FAQs?  It would make sense to me that someone could
devise a basic set of instructions that could be followed by people
who want to help maintain FAQs but are not necessarily technically
proficient.  Sigh.  I've asked before though & noone ever seems to
respond so maybe it's "you know HTML or you don't."  ????

I know we had a flurry of activity on this group a few months back --
new volunteers, enthusiasm, etc.  But, we've been very quiet.  Here's
 my memory of where things stand -- please update us:

British Ed System -- John ???
Character Accents -- Neil ??
Character Names -- ???
Quidditch -- Neil (almost completed at last update)
Clothing -- ??
Economy -- ??
Mythology & Magical Creatures -- Heidi??
Social Issues - Mike
Spells & Charms -- Neil (almost completed I think)

Sirius Black -- Dicey
Albus Dumbledore -- Caius 
Hagrid -- ??
Lupin -- Amy 
Malfoys -- Heidi & Cassie
Snape -- Gwen, Amanda & others
Weasley Family -- ready to be uploaded since July 2001!
Ginny -- probably needs her own FAQ, there's a start in the Weasley
Family FAQ -- Percy might need his own FAQ too & I might take that on


Audio Versions, Cover Art, Fan Clubs, Merchandise -- probably all need
to be updated

I may have missed some other pending ones, but I think these are the
main ones that are mising as I recall.

So, please update us so we can plan a roll-out of the New Name
(Fantastic Posts & Where to Find Them), the New Location and Newly
Written (or Newly Updated) FAQs.  :--)

Penny  




From john at walton.vu  Mon May 20 14:30:57 2002
From: john at walton.vu (John Walton)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 15:30:57 +0100
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Updates .... Updates Anyone?
In-Reply-To: <acb0c6+9huv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <B90EC731.1048C%john@walton.vu>

plinsenmayer wrote:

> British Ed System -- John ???

Erm...I flaked out on my FAQs a while back. This one's open to anyone who
wants it.

--J




From hp_lexicon at yahoo.com  Mon May 20 15:04:54 2002
From: hp_lexicon at yahoo.com (Steve Vander Ark)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 08:04:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Updates .... Updates Anyone?
In-Reply-To: <acb0c6+9huv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20020520150454.90754.qmail@web20709.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi, Penny:

You don't need to know HTML to edit the FAQs. You just
need Composer (not the 6.x version, but the 4.x
version). Then you need to either have the user name
and password to upload to the server involved or you
need someone to send it to who does know the user name
and password. It's very easy to do, VERY. I have
parents here at school do it for our school site all
the time. 

As for transfering the FAQs, that's simple to do too.
Whoever has the access for the server that we want to
transfer to can do it in about five minutes. If I had
the user name, password, and ftp address, I could do
it. 

None of this requires techie know-how. What DOES
require the techie know-how is figuring out how to
transfer Word documents into clean code, which is what
has stymied us. I don't have time to do the
conversion. Paul has done it in the past, but until he
converts the files, they don't get uploaded. 

Here's what I propose:

Whoever has the access needed for the new server
should get in touch with me. If they don't want to
give me the access info, which is perfectly
understandable, they can get the files from me and
upload them themselves. From that point on, anyone
doing the FAQs should download and install the 4.x
version of Netscape, which includes Composer. Whoever
has access to the server will have to do the uploads
unless they want to hand out the access info, but
aside from that it's easy. Here's how it works:

Using Navigator, you browse to the page you want to
edit. Once there, you click on file => edit page. The
page opens in Composer and you can edit the text to
your heart's content, maintaining the fonts etc. which
we've established for the FAQs. If you want something
to become a link, you hightlight it and click on
"link." Then you type in the address you want the link
to go to.  When you're done, you click on "publish"
and if you have the access information for the site,
it goes right back where you found it in revised form.
If you don't have the access info, you save it as a
file, then send it as an attachment to an email to the
person who DOES have access. 

If we can get people using Composer that way, editing
and maintaining becomes extremely intuitive and quick.
I know, I do all my sites this way all the time.

Steve

Steve
--- plinsenmayer <pennylin at swbell.net> wrote:
> Hi all --
> 
> To avoid this being on Cindy's Task List for the
> Mods for the 5th
> Monday running, I'm getting this out just under the
> wire.  <g>
> 
> We would like to do several things with the FAQs:
> 
> (1) Get updates from everyone as to when they expect
> to have a draft
> or completed product; and 
> 
> (2) (a) Solicit some technical assistance for
> getting the FAQs that
> are completed moved over to the hp4gu.org.uk site.  
> 
> (b) Along these lines, I was wondering if anyone
> with the techie
> know-how would care to write up a very basic set of
> guidelines for
> updating & maintaining existing FAQs.  If I don't
> know anything about
> HTML, can't I be given some very basic step-by-step
> instructions for
> pulling up the document in a program where it can be
> revised and for
> adding in sentences, paragraphs, references, etc.
> for purposes of
> updating existing FAQs?  It would make sense to me
> that someone could
> devise a basic set of instructions that could be
> followed by people
> who want to help maintain FAQs but are not
> necessarily technically
> proficient.  Sigh.  I've asked before though & noone
> ever seems to
> respond so maybe it's "you know HTML or you don't." 
> ????
> 
> I know we had a flurry of activity on this group a
> few months back --
> new volunteers, enthusiasm, etc.  But, we've been
> very quiet.  Here's
>  my memory of where things stand -- please update
> us:
> 
> British Ed System -- John ???
> Character Accents -- Neil ??
> Character Names -- ???
> Quidditch -- Neil (almost completed at last update)
> Clothing -- ??
> Economy -- ??
> Mythology & Magical Creatures -- Heidi??
> Social Issues - Mike
> Spells & Charms -- Neil (almost completed I think)
> 
> Sirius Black -- Dicey
> Albus Dumbledore -- Caius 
> Hagrid -- ??
> Lupin -- Amy 
> Malfoys -- Heidi & Cassie
> Snape -- Gwen, Amanda & others
> Weasley Family -- ready to be uploaded since July
> 2001!
> Ginny -- probably needs her own FAQ, there's a start
> in the Weasley
> Family FAQ -- Percy might need his own FAQ too & I
> might take that on
> 
> 
> Audio Versions, Cover Art, Fan Clubs, Merchandise --
> probably all need
> to be updated
> 
> I may have missed some other pending ones, but I
> think these are the
> main ones that are mising as I recall.
> 
> So, please update us so we can plan a roll-out of
> the New Name
> (Fantastic Posts & Where to Find Them), the New
> Location and Newly
> Written (or Newly Updated) FAQs.  :--)
> 
> Penny  
> 
> 


=====
Steve Vander Ark
The Harry Potter Lexicon
http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon

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From vderark at bccs.org  Mon May 20 15:07:59 2002
From: vderark at bccs.org (Steve Vander Ark)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 11:07:59 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Updates .... Updates Anyone?
In-Reply-To: <acb0c6+9huv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000301c20010$24fb9760$0401a8c0@castle>

Hi, Penny:

You don't need to know HTML to edit the FAQs. You just need Composer
(not the 6.x version, but the 4.x version). Then you need to either have
the user name and password to upload to the server involved or you need
someone to send it to who does know the user name and password. It's
very easy to do, VERY. I have parents here at school do it for our
school site all the time. 

As for transfering the FAQs, that's simple to do too. Whoever has the
access for the server that we want to transfer to can do it in about
five minutes. If I had the user name, password, and ftp address, I could
do it. 

None of this requires techie know-how. What DOES require the techie
know-how is figuring out how to transfer Word documents into clean code,
which is what has stymied us. I don't have time to do the conversion.
Paul has done it in the past, but until he converts the files, they
don't get uploaded. 

Here's what I propose:

Whoever has the access needed for the new server should get in touch
with me. If they don't want to give me the access info, which is
perfectly understandable, they can get the files from me and upload them
themselves. Depending on the method they use, they may have some link
fixing to do. 

>From that point on, anyone doing the FAQs should download and install
the 4.x version of Netscape, which includes Composer. Whoever has access
to the server will have to do the uploads unless they want to hand out
the access info, but aside from that it's easy. Here's how it works:

Using Navigator, you browse to the page you want to edit. Once there,
you click on file => edit page. The page opens in Composer and you can
edit the text to your heart's content, maintaining the fonts etc. which
we've established for the FAQs. If you want something to become a link,
you hightlight it and click on "link." Then you type in the address you
want the link to go to.  When you're done, you click on "publish" and if
you have the access information for the site, it goes right back where
you found it in revised form. If you don't have the access info, you
save it as a file, then send it as an attachment to an email to the
person who DOES have access. 

If we can get people using Composer that way, editing and maintaining
becomes extremely intuitive and quick. I know, I do all my sites this
way all the time.

Steve

Steve
--- plinsenmayer <pennylin at swbell.net> wrote:
> Hi all --
> 
> To avoid this being on Cindy's Task List for the
> Mods for the 5th
> Monday running, I'm getting this out just under the
> wire.  <g>
> 
> We would like to do several things with the FAQs:
> 
> (1) Get updates from everyone as to when they expect
> to have a draft
> or completed product; and 
> 
> (2) (a) Solicit some technical assistance for
> getting the FAQs that
> are completed moved over to the hp4gu.org.uk site.  
> 
> (b) Along these lines, I was wondering if anyone
> with the techie
> know-how would care to write up a very basic set of
> guidelines for
> updating & maintaining existing FAQs.  If I don't
> know anything about
> HTML, can't I be given some very basic step-by-step
> instructions for
> pulling up the document in a program where it can be
> revised and for
> adding in sentences, paragraphs, references, etc.
> for purposes of
> updating existing FAQs?  It would make sense to me
> that someone could
> devise a basic set of instructions that could be
> followed by people
> who want to help maintain FAQs but are not
> necessarily technically
> proficient.  Sigh.  I've asked before though & noone
> ever seems to
> respond so maybe it's "you know HTML or you don't." 
> ????
> 
> I know we had a flurry of activity on this group a
> few months back --
> new volunteers, enthusiasm, etc.  But, we've been
> very quiet.  Here's
>  my memory of where things stand -- please update
> us:
> 
> British Ed System -- John ???
> Character Accents -- Neil ??
> Character Names -- ???
> Quidditch -- Neil (almost completed at last update)
> Clothing -- ??
> Economy -- ??
> Mythology & Magical Creatures -- Heidi??
> Social Issues - Mike
> Spells & Charms -- Neil (almost completed I think)
> 
> Sirius Black -- Dicey
> Albus Dumbledore -- Caius 
> Hagrid -- ??
> Lupin -- Amy 
> Malfoys -- Heidi & Cassie
> Snape -- Gwen, Amanda & others
> Weasley Family -- ready to be uploaded since July
> 2001!
> Ginny -- probably needs her own FAQ, there's a start
> in the Weasley
> Family FAQ -- Percy might need his own FAQ too & I
> might take that on
> 
> 
> Audio Versions, Cover Art, Fan Clubs, Merchandise --
> probably all need
> to be updated
> 
> I may have missed some other pending ones, but I
> think these are the
> main ones that are mising as I recall.
> 
> So, please update us so we can plan a roll-out of
> the New Name
> (Fantastic Posts & Where to Find Them), the New
> Location and Newly
> Written (or Newly Updated) FAQs.  :--)
> 
> Penny  
> 
> 





From john at walton.vu  Mon May 20 15:13:06 2002
From: john at walton.vu (John Walton)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 16:13:06 +0100
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Updates .... Updates Anyone?
In-Reply-To: <000301c20010$24fb9760$0401a8c0@castle>
Message-ID: <B90ED112.104A2%john@walton.vu>

Steve Vander Ark wrote:

> None of this requires techie know-how. What DOES require the techie
> know-how is figuring out how to transfer Word documents into clean code,
> which is what has stymied us. I don't have time to do the conversion.
> Paul has done it in the past, but until he converts the files, they
> don't get uploaded.

Yael has written a useful thing called clearDoc.exe which does this. As a
Mac user, I can't use it, but the FA coders rave about it :)

--John




From dicentra at xmission.com  Mon May 20 16:40:28 2002
From: dicentra at xmission.com (dicentra63)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 16:40:28 -0000
Subject: status of Sirius Black FAQ
Message-ID: <acb8ts+5fbm@eGroups.com>

I am working on it steadily but slowly.  Right now, I have the text
version of Canon Sirius (sans group messages) that I can convert to
HTML (I have Dreamweaver at work) and post for now, if you want.  I'm
about 2/3 the way through parsing messages and organizing them
according to subject matter.

I love Sirius but I kinda wish people didn't talk about him so much. :D

--Dicey, who wouldn't turn down offers to help parse messages




From joyw at gwu.edu  Mon May 20 18:55:42 2002
From: joyw at gwu.edu (- Joy -)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 14:55:42 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Updates .... Updates Anyone?
References: <20020520150454.90754.qmail@web20709.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <009301c2002f$f11a70e0$53263244@nrockv01.md.comcast.net>

Steve wrote:
<<What DOES require the techie know-how is figuring out how to transfer Word
documents into clean code, which is what has stymied us. I don't have time
to do the conversion. Paul has done it in the past, but until he converts
the files, they don't get uploaded. >>

I can also help with converting the Word docs into code. : )

~Joy~







From cindysphynx at comcast.net  Mon May 20 23:36:39 2002
From: cindysphynx at comcast.net (cindysphynx)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 23:36:39 -0000
Subject: Updates .... Updates Anyone?
In-Reply-To: <acb0c6+9huv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <acc1a7+4ds5@eGroups.com>

Penny motivated:

> So, please update us so we can plan a roll-out of the New Name
> (Fantastic Posts & Where to Find Them), the New Location and Newly
> Written (or Newly Updated) FAQs.  :--)

I'm still working on the Mysteries FP with Pippin.  I reviewed 
Messages 25,000-36,500 (I think).  It just needs to be have the 
links added, and I'm about halfway through that task.  Eh, maybe 
I'll bite the bullet and finish that tonight.

I think I'll go back and add in the messages since I finished the 
draft.

Goat has agreed to draft an introduction.  Goat?  Pippin?  Can we 
try to be finished by . . . um . . . July 1?

Cindy




From heidit at netbox.com  Tue May 21 11:13:57 2002
From: heidit at netbox.com (heidit at netbox.com)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 07:13:57 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Updates .... Updates Anyone?
In-Reply-To: 45
Message-ID: <16600080.1171858743@imcingular.com>

I am useless at number one, but prepared to help Paul with number 2. And I will get to finishing the faqs eventually - I just need to finish Surfeit first - it's been almost a year since my last chapter and it's driving me mad.

----Original Message----

From: "plinsenmayer" <pennylin at swbell.net>
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Updates .... Updates Anyone?
Real-To:  "plinsenmayer" <pennylin at swbell.net>

Hi all --

To avoid this being on Cindy's Task List for the Mods for the 5th
Monday running, I'm getting this out just under the wire.  <g>

We would like to do several things with the FAQs:

(1) Get updates from everyone as to when they expect to have a draft
or completed product; and

(2) (a) Solicit some technical assistance for getting the FAQs that
are completed moved over to the hp4gu.org.uk site.

(b) Along these lines, I was wondering if anyone with the techie
know-how would care to write up a very basic set of guidelines for
updating & maintaining existing FAQs.  If I don't know anything about
HTML, can't I be given some very basic step-by-step instructions for
pulling up the document in a program where it can be revised and for
adding in sentences, paragraphs, references, etc. for purposes of
updating existing FAQs?  It would make sense to me that someone could
devise a basic set of instructions that could be followed by people
who want to help maintain FAQs but are not necessarily technically
proficient.  Sigh.  I've asked before though & noone ever seems to
respond so maybe it's "you know HTML or you don't."  ????

I know we had a flurry of activity on this group a few months back --
new volunteers, enthusiasm, etc.  But, we've been very quiet.  Here's
 my memory of where things stand -- please update us:

British Ed System -- John ???
Character Accents -- Neil ??
Character Names -- ???
Quidditch -- Neil (almost completed at last update)
Clothing -- ??
Economy -- ??
Mythology & Magical Creatures -- Heidi??
Social Issues - Mike
Spells & Charms -- Neil (almost completed I think)

Sirius Black -- Dicey
Albus Dumbledore -- Caius
Hagrid -- ??
Lupin -- Amy
Malfoys -- Heidi & Cassie
Snape -- Gwen, Amanda & others
Weasley Family -- ready to be uploaded since July 2001!
Ginny -- probably needs her own FAQ, there's a start in the Weasley
Family FAQ -- Percy might need his own FAQ too & I might take that on


Audio Versions, Cover Art, Fan Clubs, Merchandise -- probably all need
to be updated

I may have missed some other pending ones, but I think these are the
main ones that are mising as I recall.

So, please update us so we can plan a roll-out of the New Name
(Fantastic Posts & Where to Find Them), the New Location and Newly
Written (or Newly Updated) FAQs.  :--)

Penny



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From hp_lexicon at yahoo.com  Tue May 21 15:24:40 2002
From: hp_lexicon at yahoo.com (hp_lexicon)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 15:24:40 -0000
Subject: status of Sirius Black FAQ
In-Reply-To: <acb8ts+5fbm@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <acdoro+rfg7@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "dicentra63" <dicentra at x> wrote:
> I am working on it steadily but slowly.  Right now, I have the text
> version of Canon Sirius (sans group messages) that I can convert to
> HTML (I have Dreamweaver at work) and post for now, if you want.  

I am not familiar with what Dreamweaver will do, but a lot of these 
programs create unusable HTML, cluttered up with all sorts of stuff 
that we don't want, stuff which makes formatting very frustrating. I 
understand if people don't want to use Composer. Then it's actually 
easiest to work with pure text files, certainly not with HTML 
created by the likes of Word or Publisher or (shudder) FrontPage. 

If folks want to do that--write text-only files--then after any link 
type the URL so all I have to to is cut and paste that URL into the 
link, that would be just ducky. (A link would look like this: 
website name http://www.website.com ) If you look at the way we lay 
out the pages, you'll see that there is a table of contents at the 
top, with each heading listed. If you can do that for me too, it 
would be very helpful.

I'll have lots of time to update etc. in June, so if everyone wants 
to give themselves, say, June 10 as a deadline, I can update 
everything at that point.

Steve




From gwendolyngrace at yahoo.com  Thu May 23 15:45:16 2002
From: gwendolyngrace at yahoo.com (gwendolyngrace)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 15:45:16 -0000
Subject: Updates .... Updates Anyone?
In-Reply-To: <acb0c6+9huv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <acj2qc+nomc@eGroups.com>

Hi, Y'all!

The Snape FAQ is...well...where it was before I left the U of R. 
Porphyria emailed me a while ago just to touch base, and I haven't 
heard from her since, but I'll check back with her again. I've been 
carrying the disks around with me but unable to spend a lot of time 
working on it....

For those who've been wondering, the job search continues without 
much movement. I have an orientation session for unemployment next 
week and I hope that following that, I'll start collecting checks 
from our government (whoo. I'm whelmed). I'm fresh out of interviews 
at the moment, and trying to clean my house! Using dad's house for 
the computer has advantages and distinct disadvantages (not the least 
of which is Dad's constant "let me on for just a second" or even 
better, "would you look up X for me?" in the middle of whatever I'm 
trying to do).

But prior to the stall in the system, Snape was well on his way to 
becoming a real actual FAQ. I have NOT looked at the main list for 
some time, so I've no idea whether there's been any amazingly new 
theory concerning him, but I think for the sake of my own sanity, and 
ever getting this thing done, I will arbitrarily freeze new posts at 
whatever post was the last one I collected. Yup, that's what I'm 
going to do.

Today's agenda includes finishing up the House-Elf question and 
getting it polished up for the 27th. I'd work on Snape, but I'm not 
sure I have the disk with me--it's probably at home. However, I will 
note it on my to-do list so I don't forget for next time, and I'll 
definitely fire off an email to Porphyria today.

Cheers!

Gwen






From HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com  Fri May 31 20:20:45 2002
From: HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com (HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 31 May 2002 20:20:45 -0000
Subject: New file uploaded to HP4GU-FAQ 
Message-ID: <1022876445.19903.34573.w42@yahoogroups.com>


Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the HP4GU-FAQ 
group.

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  Uploaded by : cindysphynx <cindysphynx at comcast.net> 
  Description : Mysteries FP 5/31/02 

You can access this file at the URL

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Regards,

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From cindysphynx at comcast.net  Fri May 31 20:24:47 2002
From: cindysphynx at comcast.net (cindysphynx)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 20:24:47 -0000
Subject: Revised Mysteries FP!
Message-ID: <ad8m6f+mrs3@eGroups.com>

Good news!

Pippin and I have completed our update of the Mysteries FP!  I just 
uploaded the latest version (Mysteries FP 5/31/02).  Links are 
included and are underlined in the document.

There are only a few things left to whip it into shape:

1.  Can someone go through and proofread it for us?  

2.  Goat has been persuaded to write an introduction for it.  I know 
he is still away, but I'd imagine he'll be back soon and will draft 
something *fantastic* in no time at all.

3.  I guess someone should volunteer to, uh, do whatever technical 
thing needs to be done to get ready for release (HTML?).

Cindy (who may just go fix herself a drink)