From porphyria at mindspring.com Fri Nov 1 01:56:20 2002 From: porphyria at mindspring.com (Porphyria Ashenden) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 01:56:20 -0000 Subject: New look for Fantastic Posts In-Reply-To: <079a01c28137$e14a4300$8d41a480@Joy> Message-ID: OK, I cranked out some new headers. You can see samples here, both in black and palest grey, and also some sample pages: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/SampleTemplates/Headers/ Let me know which ones you like: there are Dorcla, Goudy Medieval, Black Chancery and Becker. Joy, I looked at that site and it was cool, but I need fonts that work on a Mac and I'm pretty sure those were for a PC. I tried to get the feel right for the type of thing you had in mind, though, so let me know what you think. ~Porphyria From cindysphynx at comcast.net Fri Nov 1 02:10:39 2002 From: cindysphynx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 02:10:39 -0000 Subject: New look for Fantastic Posts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Porphyria wrote: > OK, I cranked out some new headers. Hey, these look great! But, well, you know. I was kind of hoping that we get something a bit more customized. With a Harry Potter theme and all. You know, a little Hippogriff for the "H", a little poltergeist for the "P", a little fairy for the "P". That would be so much *fun!* OK, OK. Just kidding. ;-) I like the Becker one the best. It's manly, but somehow still feminine. Intelligent, yet naive. Politically correct, yet not too liberal. ;-) Thanks so much, Porphyria! Cindy -- who knows less about fonts than about pretty much anything else From porphyria at mindspring.com Fri Nov 1 04:56:10 2002 From: porphyria at mindspring.com (Porphyria) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:56:10 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Finished checking links In-Reply-To: <20021031204914.66672.qmail@web41111.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3D6F3E32-ED56-11D6-AA87-000393465128@mindspring.com> Sheryll wrote: > All done and it went fairly quickly. Found only two > links in the Hermione FAQ that didn't lead where they > should. Under #5 the link for 654 goes to message 653 > and under #48 the link for 3626 goes to message 3542. All fixed. ~P. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From eloiseherisson at aol.com Fri Nov 1 07:28:11 2002 From: eloiseherisson at aol.com (eloiseherisson at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 02:28:11 EST Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] New look for Fantastic Posts Message-ID: <59.23e571e6.2af3870b@aol.com> In a message dated 31/10/2002 23:30:55 GMT Standard Time, porphyria at mindspring.com writes: > Joy wrote: > > > I love the sample templates... they're > > gorgeous! One suggestion, though... > > the title graphic is sort of difficult to > > read. Maybe experiment with > > different fonts in the same style? Just > > my two knuts, for whatever they're > > worth. > > I thought the Old English would coordinate well with the ancient tome > theme, > as well as Harry Potter in general. Plus I happen to own the rights to use > that particular font. Does anyone else find it too hard to read? Does > anyone > want to suggest another font style for me to try? > I read that as 'ancient tomb'! But given my background, I would, wouldn't I? I like the original - especially the three dimensional feel it has, but I'd rather like to see it on a coloured/textured background, not just on stark white, which may not be helping. I suspect it might be easier on the eye with less of a background contrast. I did find it a little hard to read the first time, but interestingly, having looked at the other fonts, when I came back to it, it was quite clear! And it's not as if people aren't going to know what it says in advance, having clicked on a link which says HPfGU Fantastic Posts. One or two of the other more cursive, italic based ones I find a little, um, oh, I don't know, a bit hacneyed in a way, too typically what you'd expect on something "Celtic" or New Age, even a little bit twee (!) ;-) If we didn't go with the original, I'm with Cindy on favouring Becker. It still has an Olde English *print* feel. But less character. Eloise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From moongirlk at yahoo.com Fri Nov 1 16:56:14 2002 From: moongirlk at yahoo.com (Kimberly) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 16:56:14 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Hi all Sorry I haven't been around much since I joined up, I see I even missed a whole thread with my name in the title! Truth is, in the tradition of bitter Irony, I had decided to upload my catalogue when I had at least 100 posts done, and therefore my computer crashed at 97. I finally got the poor sweetie back from HP (the other HP) with a new (and devastatingly empty) hard drive last night. I have to get everything reloaded and all that fun stuff, and I'm not sure if I have a spreadsheet tool at this point or not, so lets just say it's going to take me longer than anticipated to get my first block done. But way cool how much exciting stuff you guys have gotten done lately! In a strange coincidence, I noticed something I hadn't before in my copy of PS last week, and then promptly misplaced the book and can't remember what it was. So basically I'm a mess, but I'll be starting over again with my cataloguing as soon as I get my act together. So did everybody have a fun Halloween? Kimberly From hpfgumoderator at hotmail.com Fri Nov 1 17:36:10 2002 From: hpfgumoderator at hotmail.com (hpfgumoderator) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 17:36:10 -0000 Subject: Grieving for Kimberly's Hard Drive and Topic Terms Database In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey, it's Cindy, posting from the Mod account because Yahoo doesn't like Cindysphynx anymore. :-( Kimberly wrote: >Truth is, in the tradition of bitter Irony, I had decided to upload >my catalogue when I had at least 100 posts done, and therefore my >computer crashed at 97. Oh, Kimberly, that's just awful! I wish I could do something! If the problem was that Windows XP crashed and needed to be re-loaded, it still might be possible to salvage what was on your hard drive. I had that type of crash earlier this year, and Luke, the quick- thinking list elf advised that my hard drive might be salvageable, and he was right. Let me know if you think this might help and I'll explain further. (Yes, you can still get me on cindyspynx at comcast.net). On another note, our Topic Terms database is getting big (almost 300 terms now) and probably harder and harder to use. So here's a helpful tip. Once you have entered the Topic Terms database and selected "Printable Database," you get a huge long alphabetical list of the terms we are using. If you're scanning for a term that might meet your needs, you can scroll through the whole list, of course. If you're like me, your eyes start to cross before you get halfway through if you scroll, though. The other way to use the printable database is to search it. You hit "CTRL F" and you get the "Find" window. For example, if you have a post that talks about the Second and Third Tasks, you might want to know whether people are entering those Triwizard tasks separately or lumped together under "Triwizard Tournament." You could search for "task" and find that out without scrolling to "S" for Second Task and "T" for Third Task. Anyway, I'm taking some time to beef up some of the descriptions to make them a bit more searchable (for instance, specifying that "Triwizard Tournament" covers the first, second and third tasks, even though we all know that). Just thought I'd share. Cindy From porphyria at mindspring.com Fri Nov 1 17:59:58 2002 From: porphyria at mindspring.com (Porphyria) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:59:58 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] New look for Fantastic Posts In-Reply-To: <59.23e571e6.2af3870b@aol.com> Message-ID: Eloise wrote: > I like the original - especially the three dimensional feel it has, but I' > d > rather like to see it on a coloured/textured background, not just on stark > white, which may not be helping. I suspect it might be easier on the eye > with > less of a background contrast. Sorry, in case this wasn't obvious, the original is still available for viewing in context on all the templates here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/SampleTemplates/ For clarity's sake, let's call the original English Textura. > I did find it a little hard to read the first time, but interestingly, > having > looked at the other fonts, when I came back to it, it was quite clear! I intend to use the same font on the Fantastic Posts main page, so ideally it should be clear enough right away. > One or two of the other more cursive, italic based ones I find a little, > um, > oh, I don't know, a bit hacneyed in a way, too typically what you'd > expect on > something "Celtic" or New Age, even a little bit twee (!) ;-) Twee? Twee! A dagger through my heart!!! Well, actually I think the Black Chancery is a little twee. The problem is, one person's "twee" is another person's "fanciful," just as one person's "character" is another person's "illegible." I thought that some of these fonts partook of the quirky, playful gothic-eclecticism of the Potter series in general. I thought that Dorcla was classy enough, but maybe not the right mood. > If we didn't go with the original, I'm with Cindy on favouring Becker. It > still has an Olde English *print* feel. But less character. Becker is growing on me too and I'd be happy to switch, but just to make things fun I've added another sample which is a tad simpler than the English Textura, but more similar to it than the Becker. It's called Blackmoor: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU- FAQ/files/SampleTemplates/Headers/blackmoor.gif I cannot get around to doing the 3D chiseled effect until this weekend, but you should get the idea from the basic sample. ~Porphyria, who *will* quit playing around with fonts and get on with something more productive. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From eloiseherisson at aol.com Fri Nov 1 18:39:18 2002 From: eloiseherisson at aol.com (eloiseherisson at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:39:18 EST Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] New look for Fantastic Posts Message-ID: <10d.1a35d2ad.2af42456@aol.com> In a message dated 01/11/2002 18:00:35 GMT Standard Time, porphyria at mindspring.com writes: > Sorry, in case this wasn't obvious, the original is still available for > viewing in context on all the templates here: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/SampleTemplates/ Oops! I only looked at the basic fonts - too busy cataloguing, you see (!) ;-) ,<> > One or two of the other more cursive, italic based ones I find a little, > > > um, > > oh, I don't know, a bit hacneyed in a way, too typically what you'd > > expect on > > something "Celtic" or New Age, even a little bit twee (!) ;-) > > Twee? Twee! A dagger through my heart!!! I wasn't criticising you selection, darling, just comparing them unfavourably with your original one - as you very well know! <>> Becker is growing on me too and I'd be happy to switch, but just to make > things fun I've added another sample which is a tad simpler than the > English Textura, but more similar to it than the Becker. It's called > Blackmoor: > I like that one! Eloise Back to the grindstone [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From lucky_kari at yahoo.ca Fri Nov 1 21:14:05 2002 From: lucky_kari at yahoo.ca (lucky_kari) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 21:14:05 -0000 Subject: This month's colours? Message-ID: Very creative, but I have been fazing out everytime I try to look at the screen. I can't read the black on the dark brown. The blue hyperlinks feel like they're floating towards me out of the orange, and it's even worse when they're on light brown. All in all, my brain feels like it's lost its essential connection to the eyes. Could there be a little-more subdued colour scheme for HPFGU-FAQ? Please? Eileen From joyw at gwu.edu Fri Nov 1 21:39:16 2002 From: joyw at gwu.edu (- Joy -) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 16:39:16 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] New look for Fantastic Posts References: Message-ID: <01fb01c281ef$20ec7750$8d41a480@Joy> The amazing Porphyria wrote: OK, I cranked out some new headers. You can see samples here, both in black and palest grey, and also some sample pages: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/SampleTemplates/Headers/ I really really like the Becker and Black Chancery ones. See, aren't fonts fun?! Thanks for bearing with my obsession... you should see how long it takes me to pick the fonts for cover pages for my papers. ; ) Oh, and I'm sorry about the PC only link... I forgot that not everyone in the world has caved into Microsoft. I envy your willpower... ~Joy~ From cindysphinx at comcast.net Fri Nov 1 22:05:30 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 22:05:30 -0000 Subject: This month's colours? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Eileen wrote: >Could there > be a little-more subdued colour scheme for HPFGU-FAQ? Please? Oh, sure. You've already had your Thanksgiving, so now you're being a . . . a . . . Thanksgiving Scrooge? OK, I'll tone it down. It won't be as cool, though, I'm warnin' ya! ;-) Cindy -- who craves pumpkin pie every time she sees these colors From Ali at zymurgy.org Fri Nov 1 22:43:14 2002 From: Ali at zymurgy.org (Ali) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 22:43:14 -0000 Subject: TBAY? Delurk Message-ID: "Hi!, Hello!" Ali called out timidly. Her voice echoed in the cavenous chamber. She tripped as she tiptoed on the concrete flagstones: the very flagstones trodden by so many "big hitters" Ali had felt in awe of for so long. "Lumos" she croaked. Her wand tip highlighted delurk messages of other FAQ members. "Aagh!" thought Ali, as her tummy lurched. "What excuses could she think of for her first posts?" Excuses, reasons and explanations raced through her aching brain. She tripped again and bloodied her nose on a shard of glass engraved with the phrase "First Post Embarassment". Ali stood up, wiped the blood away and moved on quickly. "Hello!, hello, she called again, wondering as she spoke whether she was speaking Received Pronounciation English or the more pronounced London twang she so loved as a teenager, and still resorted to in times of merriment or stress. Her voice reverbrated against the towering walls. "Does anyone want to divide a block of posts up - say 500 each?" called Ali, her voice fading away into the distance. Ali ran back to the entrance, remembering suddenly that she had left her invisibility cloak on the otherside of the Whomping Willow. Ali Listening to a Fanfare of Fireworks in the distance. From eloiseherisson at aol.com Sat Nov 2 08:44:10 2002 From: eloiseherisson at aol.com (eloise_herisson) Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 08:44:10 -0000 Subject: Totally OT - Oprah In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey, what's this stuff about the Oprah show that you mentioned, Cindy? I looked over on OTC, but it was only a lot of very young women gushing over a child only a year or so older than my son. Adds a different perspective, that! Did someone actually gave some of the plot away? Eloise Who's finally got the hang of this cataloguing thing, has got a little more ruthless, and finally twigged that she can speed things up considerably by using the pasting and filling tools. And waving reassuringly to Ali, of course! From cindysphinx at comcast.net Sat Nov 2 14:12:46 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 14:12:46 -0000 Subject: Totally OT - Oprah In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Eloise: > Hey, what's this stuff about the Oprah show that you mentioned, > Cindy? I looked over on OTC, but it was only a lot of very young > women gushing over a child only a year or so older than my son. OTC? Nah, OTC won't get you anywhere. Ya gotta have access to Dicey! See, Dicey taped the Oprah show. There's this kid JKR has been corresponding with, and he's been taking guesses at the plot of the next book. JKR told him some of his guesses had been "scarily close." Under withering cross-examination by Oprah, he revealed that one such guess was that muggles would discover and invade the wizarding world. Only, er, I got it backward in my post and said JKR had *said* that rather than merely confirmed it, kind of. ::blushes:: As for JKR's cocktail preferences -- I made that part up. ;-) Cindy -- also waving to Ali From cindysphinx at comcast.net Sat Nov 2 15:18:31 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 15:18:31 -0000 Subject: Nel Questions Message-ID: Hi, all, I've had an idea. I just came across one of the Phil Nel questions -- the terrific House Elf question by Gwen, in fact. Anyway, the authors of the Nel questions spent a lot of time pulling up some of the best archived messages to include in their presentation of the Nel question. Some of these messages pre-date our catalogue, which starts at message 25,000. How about this? When we come across the Nel questions and when they cite older posts, let's list those posts in the "Diamonds in the Rough" database. Then when we write FAQs, we'll be able to take advantage of the work the Nel authors already put in and cite those older Fantastic Posts. Does that sound like a plan? Cindy From moongirlk at yahoo.com Sat Nov 2 16:45:23 2002 From: moongirlk at yahoo.com (Kimberly) Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 16:45:23 -0000 Subject: Grieving for Kimberly's Hard Drive and Topic Terms Database In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "hpfgumoderator" wrote: > Kimberly wrote: > > >Truth is, in the tradition of bitter Irony, I had decided to upload > >my catalogue when I had at least 100 posts done, and therefore my > >computer crashed at 97. > > Oh, Kimberly, that's just awful! I wish I could do something! If > the problem was that Windows XP crashed and needed to be re-loaded, > it still might be possible to salvage what was on your hard drive. Thanks for the thought, but when it starts macking amplified Rice Crispy kinds of noises and blinks "Operating system not found" at you in that wry way that only a computer can... it's really over. Besides, I think after the warranty runs out you have to sigh a DNR or something. Plus, I no longer *have* the old hard drive, since HP (still the other HP) doesn't deign to send it back to you when they have to replace it. So it's start from scratch time for me. Oh well, at least it's all nice and tidy. And echo-y. So cool, though, that you were able to get your stuff back. kimberly From dicentra at xmission.com Sat Nov 2 20:58:32 2002 From: dicentra at xmission.com (dicentra63) Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 20:58:32 -0000 Subject: Totally OT - Oprah In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "Cindy C." wrote: > > Nah, OTC won't get you anywhere. Ya gotta have access to Dicey! > > See, Dicey taped the Oprah show. There's this kid JKR has been > corresponding with, and he's been taking guesses at the plot of the > next book. JKR told him some of his guesses had been "scarily > close." Under withering cross-examination by Oprah, he revealed > that one such guess was that muggles would discover and invade the > wizarding world. Only, er, I got it backward in my post and said > JKR had *said* that rather than merely confirmed it, kind > of. ::blushes:: Not only that, I misled Cindy by randomly using the word "invasion," which the kid never said, either. Here's the actual transcript: O: I hear you and the Harry Potter author, JK Rowlings [sic] (said raw-lings) are pen pals. Is that true? Kid: True. O: And you've been predicting to her what will happen in upcoming books? Kid: Yes. O: And that she's written you back. Kid: Yes. O: And she says that you are "scarily close." Kid and audience: [laughs] O: So what are some of your predictions? Kid: Well, I just predict.. the next one I heard the title was called The Order of the Phoenix... so I guess now that Voldemort's back, crazy things are going to happen. I think that at some point Muggles will get into the wizard world. That'll be a little problem. So I exaggerated, OK? Fortunatly, Risti on the main list ventured into TBAY and corrected things. All better, right? --Dicey, who has done her share of gushing over little Daniel, even though she's triple his age (someday I'll get a grip, I promise! :D) From lupinesque at yahoo.com Sat Nov 2 21:08:14 2002 From: lupinesque at yahoo.com (Amy Z) Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:08:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Totally OT - Oprah In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021102210814.47240.qmail@web20308.mail.yahoo.com> > Kid: Well, I just predict.. the next one I heard the > title was called > The Order of the Phoenix... so I guess now that > Voldemort's back, > crazy things are going to happen. I think that at > some point Muggles > will get into the wizard world. Me! Me! Pretty please? Actually, I'm very suspicious. How do we know JKR has said a durn thing to this kid? On his/her say-so? Cynical!Amy ===== In fall their brightened leaves, released, fly down the wind, and we are pleased to walk on radiance, amazed. O light come down to earth, be praised. --Wendell Berry, "Great Trees" __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ From kippesp at yahoo.com Sat Nov 2 21:18:33 2002 From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes) Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:18:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Totally OT - Oprah In-Reply-To: <20021102210814.47240.qmail@web20308.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20021102211833.45405.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> Well I also saw the Oprah show (only one I've *ever* seen--my Mom recorded it!). And I certainly didn't get the impression that this or any of his predictions were accurate--just that some were rather close. But I wouldn't extend this to the example prediction he gave on the program. It was cool that he got a wand, though. Bet that made *his* day! --- Amy Z wrote: > > Kid: Well, I just predict.. the next one I heard the > > title was called > > The Order of the Phoenix... so I guess now that > > Voldemort's back, > > crazy things are going to happen. I think that at > > some point Muggles > > will get into the wizard world. > > Me! Me! Pretty please? > > Actually, I'm very suspicious. How do we know JKR has > said a durn thing to this kid? On his/her say-so? > > Cynical!Amy > > ===== > In fall their brightened leaves, released, > fly down the wind, and we are pleased > to walk on radiance, amazed. > O light come down to earth, be praised. > --Wendell Berry, "Great Trees" > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now > http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ From lucky_kari at yahoo.ca Sat Nov 2 22:34:18 2002 From: lucky_kari at yahoo.ca (lucky_kari) Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 22:34:18 -0000 Subject: Totally OT - Oprah In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "dicentra63" wrote: > So I exaggerated, OK? Fortunatly, Risti on the main list ventured > into TBAY and corrected things. All better, right? She also wrote me up as dating a married man. As if my reputation wasn't already in ruins what with all that C.R.A.B.C.U.S.T.A.R.D. stuff... Eileen, who hopes that Risti didn't know how many HPFGUers George has been involved with when he gave him the line about his "Missus" From pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk Sun Nov 3 00:12:13 2002 From: pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk (bluesqueak) Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 00:12:13 -0000 Subject: Totally OT - Oprah In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "lucky_kari" wrote: > --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "dicentra63" wrote: > > So I exaggerated, OK? Fortunatly, Risti on the main list > > ventured into TBAY and corrected things. All better, right? > Eileen: > She also wrote me up as dating a married man. As if my reputation > wasn't already in ruins what with all that C.R.A.B.C.U.S.T.A.R.D. > stuff... > > Eileen, who hopes that Risti didn't know how many HPFGUers George > has been involved with when he gave him the line about his "Missus" So maybe George has a dog? Called "Missus"? He had to change her name from "Prank" because Snapetheories have all been told not to mention the word 'Prank' ever again. [Prank is obviously a bitch. I should have known.] Pip [ who thinks the Becker font is the best looking, btw]. From porphyria at mindspring.com Sun Nov 3 23:12:07 2002 From: porphyria at mindspring.com (Porphyria) Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:12:07 -0500 Subject: New look for Fantastic Posts; Mainpage In-Reply-To: <01fb01c281ef$20ec7750$8d41a480@Joy> Message-ID: OK, I've been playing around some more and I came up with a version I'd like to use for the new FAQ main page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/SampleTemplates/mainpage.html It's inspired by the actual cover of FB, but adapted for better web viewing. Of course the actual FAQs listed will all be linked, and we can tweak which ones we list or what we call them. I do like the idea of giving every header the form "The XXX" because it makes for some thematic consistency. Let me know what you think. I used Becker for the header since Becker is winning so far amongst those who replied (Cindy and Pip favoring, Joy and Eloise at least liking). Also, I'll be making a gold version of the "HPfGU Fantastic Posts" header for the individual FAQ pages to match the embossed textbook look and tie in with your Gryffindor color schemes; silver-grey and black will remain available. ~Porphyria From pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk Sun Nov 3 23:59:21 2002 From: pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk (bluesqueak) Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 23:59:21 -0000 Subject: New look for Fantastic Posts; Mainpage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., Porphyria wrote: > OK, I've been playing around some more and I came up with a version I'd > like to use for the new FAQ main page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU- FAQ/files/SampleTemplates/mainpage.html > > It's inspired by the actual cover of FB, but adapted for better > web viewing. Of course the actual FAQs listed will all be linked, > and we can tweak which ones we list or what we call them. I do > like the idea of giving every header the form "The XXX" because it makes for some thematic > consistency. Let me know what you think. > > ~Porphyria Nice. Me like. Good and clear - it should be easy for people to find the topic wanted quickly. Minor niggle that you've probably already noticed - Hypothetic Alley has HPfUG's [Harry Potter for Up Grown's?] underneath it. Pip From elfundeb at comcast.net Mon Nov 4 01:45:52 2002 From: elfundeb at comcast.net (elfundeb) Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 20:45:52 -0500 Subject: Done! Professor Snape, er, Mr. Crouch, sir! Message-ID: <000f01c283a3$e981c8e0$3a3b3244@arlngt01.va.comcast.net> Debbie, dressed in Hermione-style Nazi jack-boots, skids to a halt in front of the Potions classroom, pulls the door open, and dashes inside. But it wasn't Professor Snape who looked up at him from the teacher's desk; it was Mr. Crouch. "Where's Professor Snape?" "The Cataloguing process has been streamlined. You will turn your work in directly to me." "Oh, yes! I have my first catalogue right here! I was ever so pleased to be asked to work on it, and I've been working like a House-Elf ever since! I finished it almost three weeks ago, but since then I reworked the entire catalogue to incorporate the latest editions of "Unfogging the Messages" (by Cindy C. and Elkins Vlabatsky) and "One Thousand Magical Herbs and Topic Terms" (ed. Dicentra Spectabilis Alba). I also added a special "highlights and lowlights" section - I do hope it's not too long - it's many rows of Excel more than the Professors asked for." "You must follow the rules here, and your first thousand should have been turned in as soon as it was completed." "But I found a problem with the textbooks, sir. . . . . Cindy claimed that Hagrid killed his mother Fridwulfa to save Dumbledore, and I needed the to confirm the correct topic term, but Magical Drafts and Topic Terms does not include the term for Kin-Slaying. I've been looking for days." "This first task was designed to test your speed and tenacity, not your proofreading skills. Now, you say you have highlights for me. Let me hear them." "Yes, sir. This was a grim time on the list, as I'm sure you're aware, but there were occasional flashes of humor. Such as: 29345, in which, responding to someone who claimed that Sirius was laughing because of "the gallows humor effect", Peg Kerr said "What . . . being dropped from the gallows? And you're still here?" 29433 - in which Joywitch suggested that wizarding insurance companies are run by trolls "as they are in the Muggle world." 29674-- in which Cindy admitted that not all of her theories are "serious." 29816 -- in which Jim Ferer compared Dumbledore to "that great Slytherin, Don Vito Corleone." 29901 -- in which an enterprising newbie delurked by declaring Minerva McGonagall to be Ever! so Evil. 29969 - in which, sadly, scared off by many spirited defenses of McGonagall, said newbie recanted, admitting she wasn't really serious." "Is that all?" asked Mr. Crouch. "Very well, you may return to your dungeon with your next thousand posts, while we review . . . ." "But I have lowlights, too, sir. Unfortunately, sir, I'm sorry to report that quite a few listees posted messages in clear violation of the rules. There was a particularly dreadful thread entitled "Scarf! I Must Have One!" Landmark post #30000 was written for the express purpose of claiming "I got 30000" with only the slenderest excuse for canon included. And there were endless introductions and movie queries and merchandise requests by new members who had not read your rules and regulations." "I trust you remember the many proofs I have given, over a long career, that I despise and detest the presence of rule violations on the main list and those who practice such things?" "Oh yes, Mr. Crouch, I never suggested that you had anything to do with it! Your department was on full alert, sir, trying to cajole and then Stun the recalcitrant newbies into submission. Do you know, sir, that for three days (Nov. 22-24, 2001), the Mods were posting Admin warnings to the list at the rate of 4 or 5 a day? And that doesn't count two desperate pleas posted by ordinary members. Things were so bad that even one of your own List-Elves felt compelled to make a trembling on-list confession of rule violations (#29593 -- "I is being a bad List-Elf for not checking the archives . . . .")" "If you accuse my elf, you accuse me!" "Oh, but after that all the good little newbies (and there *were* some) felt compelled to begin *every* message with "I checked the archives and I didn't find anything on this . . . ." "Very well. You have been of assistance. However, I expect you to take a more challenging selection of posts this time." "Yes, sir! I've already started, sir. And I'll turn it in the moment I've finished." Debbie, who found cataloguing endless admin warnings and OT posts extremely easy and likes Porphyria's new format/font combo very much [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From porphyria at mindspring.com Mon Nov 4 00:07:40 2002 From: porphyria at mindspring.com (Porphyria) Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:07:40 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: New look for Fantastic Posts; Mainpage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <6F1A43D2-EF89-11D6-AD01-000393465128@mindspring.com> Pip wrote: > Minor niggle that you've probably already noticed - Hypothetic Alley > has? HPfUG's [Harry Potter for Up Grown's?] underneath it. UG! It's fixed. :-) ~Porphyria, Up-Grown, and proud of it [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From kippesp at yahoo.com Mon Nov 4 02:34:31 2002 From: kippesp at yahoo.com (Paul Kippes) Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:34:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] New look for Fantastic Posts; Mainpage & DNS question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021104023431.44956.qmail@web13805.mail.yahoo.com> Are these various looks to be used in the various areas of the FAQ site? Or is there going to be one look and so replicated to each FAQ? Just curious. To John-- What is up with the DNS transfer on hpfgu.org.uk? It has been awhile since we (fictionalley.org) moved to a new server but this particular DNS entry hasn't yet made the jump? --- Porphyria wrote: > OK, I've been playing around some more and I came up with a version > I'd > like to use for the new FAQ main page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/SampleTemplates/mainpage.html > > It's inspired by the actual cover of FB, but adapted for better web > > viewing. Of course the actual FAQs listed will all be linked, and > we can > tweak which ones we list or what we call them. I do like the idea > of > giving every header the form "The XXX" because it makes for some > thematic > consistency. Let me know what you think. > > I used Becker for the header since Becker is winning so far amongst > those > who replied (Cindy and Pip favoring, Joy and Eloise at least > liking). Also, > I'll be making a gold version of the "HPfGU Fantastic Posts" > header for > the individual FAQ pages to match the embossed textbook look and > tie in > with your Gryffindor color schemes; silver-grey and black will > remain > available. > > ~Porphyria > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ From pennylin at swbell.net Mon Nov 4 02:40:54 2002 From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny Linsenmayer) Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 20:40:54 -0600 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] New look for Fantastic Posts; Mainpage References: Message-ID: <049c01c283ab$992d14f0$4f5ffea9@cq5hs01> Hi -- <<<<<<<>>>>>>>> "Ooh," she squeals delightedly. "Oooh! Beautiful........!" Great job, Porphyria! I agree about "The XXX" headers too. Penny (who is plugging along on cataloguing, never you fear Professor Snape, sir............) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From porphyria at mindspring.com Mon Nov 4 02:42:31 2002 From: porphyria at mindspring.com (Porphyria) Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 21:42:31 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] New look for Fantastic Posts; Mainpage & DNS question In-Reply-To: <20021104023431.44956.qmail@web13805.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <10BF4D09-EF9F-11D6-AD01-000393465128@mindspring.com> Paul asked: > Are these various looks to be used in the various areas of the FAQ > site?? Or is there going to be one look and so replicated to each > FAQ?? Just curious. I explain the details in post 1345, but basically the font, layout and header graphic will be the same for each FAQ, but the organization, color scheme and/or background graphics will be up to the individual editor (well, barring a fuscia/flame orange combo and so forth). At the moment we' re just trying to decide on a font for the header graphic, but the one I show on the sample main page is the expected favorite. ~Porphyria [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From eloiseherisson at aol.com Mon Nov 4 11:09:57 2002 From: eloiseherisson at aol.com (eloise_herisson) Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 11:09:57 -0000 Subject: Longest catalogue entry so far Message-ID: Here is my submission for the post which takes the most number of lines to catalogue, whilst possibly saying little of any relevance (but much too good to lose). Tabouli's Post 35630 weighs in at six lines. Partly because of having to SHIP some of them and TBAY them all - Tabouli does a lot of dashing into her wardrobe and changing throughout this post, not to mention twinning the Bad Buoy CUPID at S QUAFFLE with the Good Ship LOLLIPOPS. In summary, Florence = future Mrs Longbottom, snogging Lestrange behind greenhouses.In revenge, Mrs Lestrange places Mrs' Longbottom's soul into body of male toad (Trevor). Alternatively, Trevor = Trevor Lestrange, who placed his own soul into the toad and is acting as spy. BABEMEISTER Barty is a villain with style and Petunia only became jealous of Lily and turned against the WW when James dumped her for her younger sister. And I didn't catalogue what came before all that. Come back Tabouli! Eloise Who'd forgotten that BABEMEISTER tee shirt in the back of her cupboard and has pulled it out and placed it on the top of the perilously high pile of ironing that isn't getting done for some strange reason. From eloiseherisson at aol.com Mon Nov 4 11:09:59 2002 From: eloiseherisson at aol.com (eloise_herisson) Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 11:09:59 -0000 Subject: Longest catalogue entry so far Message-ID: Here is my submission for the post which takes the most number of lines to catalogue, whilst possibly saying little of any relevance (but much too good to lose). Tabouli's Post 35630 weighs in at six lines. Partly because of having to SHIP some of them and TBAY them all - Tabouli does a lot of dashing into her wardrobe and changing throughout this post, not to mention twinning the Bad Buoy CUPID at S QUAFFLE with the Good Ship LOLLIPOPS. In summary, Florence = future Mrs Longbottom, snogging Lestrange behind greenhouses.In revenge, Mrs Lestrange places Mrs' Longbottom's soul into body of male toad (Trevor). Alternatively, Trevor = Trevor Lestrange, who placed his own soul into the toad and is acting as spy. BABEMEISTER Barty is a villain with style and Petunia only became jealous of Lily and turned against the WW when James dumped her for her younger sister. And I didn't catalogue what came before all that. Come back Tabouli! Eloise Who'd forgotten that BABEMEISTER tee shirt in the back of her cupboard and has pulled it out and placed it on the top of the perilously high pile of ironing that isn't getting done for some strange reason. From eloiseherisson at aol.com Mon Nov 4 12:44:34 2002 From: eloiseherisson at aol.com (eloiseherisson at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:44:34 EST Subject: Oops! Hit 'send' twice by mistake! Message-ID: <45.1faa6218.2af7c5b2@aol.com> Sorry! That's all folks! Eloise From cindysphinx at comcast.net Mon Nov 4 13:43:03 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 13:43:03 -0000 Subject: Longest catalogue entry so far & link check volunteer needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Eloise: > Here is my submission for the post which takes the most number of > lines to catalogue I think you have me beat. But I have a condender in the non-TBAY category. The post that said the very most took 5 lines to catalogue: Message 39083 ("Draco Malfoy Is Ever So Lame. Yet Sympathetic. And Dead, Too.") Boy, my current message block is something else again. The posts are of very high quality, and there is hardly any junk at all. ********** The Hogwarts FAQ is coded and ready for a link check. Any volunteers? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU- FAQ/files/FAServersStaging/hogwarts. html Cindy -- who has used up 172 lines to catalogue 160 posts From cindysphinx at comcast.net Mon Nov 4 13:51:51 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 13:51:51 -0000 Subject: New look for Fantastic Posts; Mainpage; Poll; Uploading In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Porphyria: > OK, I've been playing around some more and I came up with a >version I'd like to use for the new FAQ main page: Porphyria, that looks really great! So hip, so happening, so *today!* > I used Becker for the header since Becker is winning so far >amongst those who replied (Cindy and Pip favoring, Joy and Eloise at least liking). How about if I set up a poll on this? On another note, I wanted to send out another reminder to upload, upload, upload your catalogue as you progress. I mean, what would we do if something were to happen to you? ::shudder:: We'd grieve and we'd send flowers and all. And then we'd have the unseemly job of going to your home, booting your computer, and copying your catalogue in the presence of your sniffling loved ones. That would be *so* awkward for everyone involved. So do remember to upload upload upload. For those left behind. Cindy From HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com Mon Nov 4 13:57:45 2002 From: HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com (HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com) Date: 4 Nov 2002 13:57:45 -0000 Subject: New poll for HP4GU-FAQ Message-ID: <1036418266.785.5405.w38@yahoogroups.com> Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the HP4GU-FAQ group: Which logo font style do you prefer? o Becker o Black Chancery o Dorcla o Goudy Medieval o Original English Textura o HP Moor To vote, please visit the following web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/surveys?id=997989 Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups web site listed above. Thanks! From eloiseherisson at aol.com Mon Nov 4 14:05:43 2002 From: eloiseherisson at aol.com (eloiseherisson at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:05:43 EST Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Longest catalogue entry so far & link check volunteer nee... Message-ID: <27.308187e3.2af7d8b7@aol.com> In a message dated 04/11/2002 13:44:19 GMT Standard Time, cindysphinx at comcast.net writes: > But I have a condender in the non-TBAY category. The post that said > the very most took 5 lines to catalogue: Message 39083 ("Draco > Malfoy Is Ever So Lame. Yet Sympathetic. And Dead, Too.") > > No, if it doesn't include TBAY and SHIP, that has to be a winner! Now who could possibly have been the author?.........I wonder?... There's something about the style of that title that suggests someone who said in a post that I've just catalogued, (on the subject of ELGINMARBLES), 'Are the anything to do with my *own* marbles? Because I think that I've misplaced those somewhere....' I don't know what to do with ELGINMARBLES! (Let the Greeks have them back, I say!) How do I catalogue a post that deals with SHIPping Sirius and Lupin with two characters who don't even exist in canon? I think I might just do, SHIP Black Lupin and hope that no-one gets the wrong idea. And another question........... How are we keying Vernon Dursley? Dursley (by analogy with Malfoy), or Vernon (by analogy with Arthur)? Eloise Working furiously as she's just realised she has an assignment deadline coming up and had better get down to some work tomorrow. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From cindysphinx at comcast.net Mon Nov 4 14:34:07 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 14:34:07 -0000 Subject: Dursleys (WAS Longest catalogue entry so far & link check volunteer nee...) In-Reply-To: <27.308187e3.2af7d8b7@aol.com> Message-ID: Eloise: > And another question........... > > How are we keying Vernon Dursley? > Dursley (by analogy with Malfoy), or Vernon (by analogy with Arthur)? I've been using first names for all the Dursleys, unless I'm referring to them as a group ("Dursleys"). > Eloise > Working furiously as she's just realised she has an assignment deadline > coming up and had better get down to some work tomorrow. Ahhh, working furiously! Music to my ears! ;-) Cindy From pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk Mon Nov 4 15:58:17 2002 From: pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk (bluesqueak) Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:58:17 -0000 Subject: Longest catalogue entry so far & link check volunteer needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "Cindy C." wrote: > > ********** > > The Hogwarts FAQ is coded and ready for a link check. Any > volunteers? > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU- > FAQ/files/FAServersStaging/hogwarts. > html > > > Cindy -- who has used up 172 lines to catalogue 160 posts I have a day off today, so as a variation from cataloguing, scoffing chocolate and drinking copious cups of tea, I'll check the Hogwarts links. I'm only up to post 20 in this new block, btw, so will upload when I get to about 60 ish. Pip From pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk Mon Nov 4 22:34:33 2002 From: pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk (bluesqueak) Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 22:34:33 -0000 Subject: Link check for Hogwarts FAQ Message-ID: The links all work. Notes and queries follow: Other Wizarding Schools Yahoo Clubs Message #4666 cites the Simon Mayo interview, but otherwise doesn't mention Hogwarts. The link within Yahoo Clubs message #4666 is no longer working. YahooGroup Message #12 is not about Hogwarts at all. Student Population at Hogwarts Yahoo Clubs Message #6358 is not about Hogwarts either Large Student Population Repeats the introductory line (and student numbers) from 'Small Student Population' : 'The proponents of a student population ranging from 250 - 350 students cite the following internal evidence to support their arguments. ' Sorting Ceremony The OT Chatter messages #1352, #1354, #1357, #1358, #1360, #1364, #1374 and #1385 discuss posters Myers-Briggs characteristics, not HP characters (the other OT Chatter messages listed DO discuss the characters). All else ok. Hope this helps. Pip!Squeak From eloiseherisson at aol.com Mon Nov 4 22:56:59 2002 From: eloiseherisson at aol.com (eloise_herisson) Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 22:56:59 -0000 Subject: Topic Terms Update Message-ID: AAaaargh.... You've gone and changed AK to whatever it is that I can never remember how to spell....and I haven't worked out how to do a quick search and replace in MS Works and...and...you do realise that once I've updated it I have to wait *hours* and *hours* before the system will let me upload the thing again..... And is it alright if I put in Foe Glass as a separate entry in the context of whether *in specific* it is evidence of Snape's being (or, as I hope we're all agreed round here) not being a vampire? (Although I confess that I don't worry too much about Snape posts in that they've all been dealt with already.) And who's this 'Volddemrort' fellow, anyway? (VW1). Eloise Whose principles are telling her she ought to conform, but whose instincts are rebelling and who thinks she really needs a nice theory to explain her inner conflicts and motivations. From cindysphinx at comcast.net Mon Nov 4 23:06:47 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 23:06:47 -0000 Subject: Topic Terms Update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Eloise: > You've gone and changed AK to whatever it is that I can > never remember how to spell.... Yes, I see that someone did add "Avada Kedavra" to the topic terms list. Remember, we're trying not to add duplicate terms, and "AK" was on the list first. So I'll delete "Avada Kedavra" and we'll go back to using AK, OK? > And is it alright if I put in Foe Glass as a separate entry in the > context of whether *in specific* it is evidence of Snape's being >(or, as I hope we're all agreed round here) not being a vampire? Well, Foe Glass is listed under "Dark Detectors." Since Foe Glass doesn't get discussed all that much, how about we just continue to use "Dark Detectors" rather than add a new term. Remember, before you add a new term, scroll or search the database to make sure there's not something there you can use. Cindy From elfundeb at comcast.net Tue Nov 5 05:44:38 2002 From: elfundeb at comcast.net (elfundeb) Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 00:44:38 -0500 Subject: Longest catalogue entry so far & Uploading Message-ID: <010301c2848e$6e216520$3a3b3244@arlngt01.va.comcast.net> Cindy: I wanted to send out another reminder to upload, > upload, upload your catalogue as you progress. I mean, what would > we do if something were to happen to you? ::shudder:: We'd grieve > and we'd send flowers and all. And then we'd have the unseemly job > of going to your home, booting your computer, and copying your > catalogue in the presence of your sniffling loved ones. That would > be *so* awkward for everyone involved.> Ok, I uploaded my next catalogue, with only 35 posts done, because if *I* get hit by a truck you can't retrieve it from my sniffling loved ones. You will have to beg my office to borrow my laptop, but even that will do you no good because it has lockdown security that's better than Fort Knox. To unlock the computer, you would need to try entering all my favorite authors until you hit upon the password of the month. And I have a *lot* of favorite authors. And even if you passed that barrier, you'd still have to find it on my hard drive, which even I find difficult. So I spared you this ordeal. Eloise: > > > Here is my submission for the post which takes the most number of > > lines to catalogue > >Cindy: I think you have me beat. > > But I have a condender in the non-TBAY category. The post that said > the very most took 5 lines to catalogue: Message 39083 ("Draco > Malfoy Is Ever So Lame. Yet Sympathetic. And Dead, Too.") > I believe I have this beat. Message 43024 ("Fred and George: The Bullies You Do Know") required 6 lines. Among other things, it examined Fred & George's ill treatment of every conceivable canon character, including Ron's poor pets. And the first response (of about 100) refuted each one, point by point. Not to mention several other long, thought-provoking messages. With the result that, I also beat > Cindy -- who has used up 172 lines to catalogue 160 posts So far, my count is 35 posts, 57 lines, no deadwood. > Eloise: > > > And another question........... > > > > How are we keying Vernon Dursley? > > Dursley (by analogy with Malfoy), or Vernon (by analogy with > Arthur)? > Cindy: > I've been using first names for all the Dursleys, unless I'm > referring to them as a group ("Dursleys"). Aha! If Cindy could be tried for inconsistency, this would be Exhibit A. My poor befuddled mind still doesn't understand how the Malfoys are different from the Dursleys. Does JKR ever refer to him as anything other than Lucius or Mr. Malfoy? But I'm being a good little coder, working in my dungeon, and I have been using "Malfoy" for Lucius even though it confuses me to no end. Debbie who must get back to her cataloguing [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From eloiseherisson at aol.com Tue Nov 5 07:23:20 2002 From: eloiseherisson at aol.com (eloiseherisson at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 02:23:20 EST Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Topic Terms Update Message-ID: <87.2395b791.2af8cbe8@aol.com> In a message dated 04/11/2002 23:08:29 GMT Standard Time, cindysphinx at comcast.net writes: > Yes, I see that someone did add "Avada Kedavra" to the topic terms > list. Remember, we're trying not to add duplicate terms, and "AK" > was on the list first. So I'll delete "Avada Kedavra" and we'll go > back to using AK, OK? Thank you Master! > > > And is it alright if I put in Foe Glass as a separate entry in the > > context of whether *in specific* it is evidence of Snape's being > >(or, as I hope we're all agreed round here) not being a vampire? > > Well, Foe Glass is listed under "Dark Detectors." Since Foe Glass > doesn't get discussed all that much, how about we just continue to > use "Dark Detectors" rather than add a new term. Yeah. Like many of these things which seem terribly important at the time, when I thought about it later, it was unnecessary, once I'd forced myself to write Snape and Vampire in adjacent cells. It's the effect of those ELGINMARBLES, you know. But you'll have to have it uploaded with Foe Glass for the time being (foolishly I entered the term before checking the database), because if I change it, I may not be able to get it accepted by the system until tomorrow! I'll do my best not to get killed in the meantime. Eloise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From cindysphinx at comcast.net Tue Nov 5 14:42:31 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 14:42:31 -0000 Subject: Longest catalogue entry so far & Uploading In-Reply-To: <010301c2848e$6e216520$3a3b3244@arlngt01.va.comcast.net> Message-ID: Debbie: >Message 43024 ("Fred and George: The Bullies You Do Know") >required 6 lines. Among other things, it examined Fred & George's >ill treatment of every conceivable canon character, including Ron's >poor pets. And the first response (of about 100) refuted each one, >point by point. Not to mention several other long, thought- >provoking messages. That tears it! We simply have to face up to what is happening here. We need a new keyword. A keyword for really good and long and detailed posts that take many lines to catalogue. Mmmm, how about simply "Elkins?" ;-) Debbie: > So far, my count is 35 posts, 57 lines, no deadwood. Fear not, Debbie! Sooner or later, you'll hit a bad patch of posts. I did, and now my line count matches my message number count. I slept peacefully last night. ;-) Debbie: >My poor befuddled mind still doesn't understand how the Malfoys are >different from the Dursleys. Oh, that's easy. The Malfoys are wizards and the Dursleys are muggles. I mean, Duh! ;-) Seriously, there are really only two Malfoys (Lucius and Draco). Narcissus doesn't count, see, because she has no lines and hardly anyone talks about her apart from Lucius. But the Dursleys? People talk about them separately and collectively all the time, often in conjunction with other canon characters. Nah, the Malfoys are no trouble at all. Where I have trouble, though, is Mrs. and Mr. Lestrange, neither of whom has a first name. Unless I go with "Florence." ;-) Cindy -- who has instructed her loved ones to sell you her computer should she get hit by a bus, but who told them to hold out for a really good price From cindysphinx at comcast.net Thu Nov 7 21:46:25 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 21:46:25 -0000 Subject: Calling All Link Checkers and Coders! Message-ID: Hi, folks, Well, would you *look* at the time! Why, our target date to launch the FAQs at the Fiction Alley servers is just 8 days away! Yikes! Fortunately, a good number of FAQs have been totally coded and link- checked. In fact, every single FAQ that has been coded has been link-checked, and the last time I pressed my ear up against the door of the Link Check room, I heard the sounds of what sounded like a rocking good party. So how about it, coders? Can you check in and let us know how the coding is coming along? Link checkers, can you drink some coffee and cleanse your systems so you'll be stone cold sober when the coders drop their coded FAQs on you for a rush link check? As for me, I'll draft up an ADMIN so that will be ready to go. Uh . . . . Can anyone think of anything else that might have fallen through the cracks? Questions? Comments? Offers to code a FAQ real quick like? Cindy From porphyria at mindspring.com Thu Nov 7 23:17:56 2002 From: porphyria at mindspring.com (Porphyria Ashenden) Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 23:17:56 -0000 Subject: Calling All Link Checkers and Coders! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Cindy reminded us: > Hi, folks, > > Well, would you *look* at the time! Why, our target date to launch > the FAQs at the Fiction Alley servers is just 8 days away! > > Yikes! Attention other coders: Here are some FAQs that it would help if someone were to link the post numbers: Dursley Family Minerva McGonagall Ron Lord Voldemort Government For the FAQs (like McGonagall) that cite threads, I guess just link to the message list beginning on that date, or the first post in the thread if you can find it: (YG-20/10/2000) would link to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/messages/4123 (note "messages" not "message" will get you the list) Pull the HTML from here: http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/faq/ When done, drop them in here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/FAServersStaging/ with a note in the comment section saying "linked by myHandle" then announce to the list that you need someone to check the links. Between now and the weekend I'll tackle converting the format for all the other FAQs that don't have many or any linking needs. I will do: Universal Appeal, Book Banning, Lawsuits, Religion, Romance, Predictions, Devices, Wands, Neville, FanFic and Recommended Reading (a FAQ I like and want to keep). I'll make sure all recently completed FAQs have the right format and are put into the Staging server (i.e. Mysteries, History, Siri I and II, Snape). Since Becker is trouncing its competition, I'll use that header. I'll also do the remaining link corrections that people have sent me. When I'm done with that, I'll see if I can link the other five if they go unclaimed by then. Boy! Good thing my husband will be out of town this weekend. Is there an update on the status of hpfgu.org.uk? It will help us a lot when that server comes back online. :-) Cindy, I think we can get something done by Friday 11/15 if the FA server is actually online by then. There might be some things left undone -- we won't have time to do all the link checking by then, and maybe some of the old FAQs will remain unlinked until I get to them next weekend. Still, we can always make corrections and updates as we go if you want to stick to the deadline. If I foresee a horrible delay, I'll know by this Sunday night. > Can anyone think of anything else that might have fallen through the > cracks? Questions? Comments? Offers to code a FAQ real quick like? I second this. If anyone notices some huge thing we're forgetting, now would be a great time to bring it up. ~Porphyria From moongirlk at yahoo.com Fri Nov 8 05:09:35 2002 From: moongirlk at yahoo.com (Kimberly) Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 05:09:35 -0000 Subject: Calling All Link Checkers and Coders! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "Cindy C." wrote: > > Link checkers, can you drink some coffee > and cleanse your systems so you'll be stone cold sober when the > coders drop their coded FAQs on you for a rush link check? > Since I won't be able to re-start cataloguing until Sunday or Monday when I get Excel installed on my echoing empty hard drive, I'd be happy to do some link-checking in the mean time. Let me know if anything comes up! kimberly From s_ings at yahoo.com Fri Nov 8 05:21:38 2002 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 00:21:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Calling All Link Checkers and Coders! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021108052138.73693.qmail@web41112.mail.yahoo.com> --- "Cindy C." wrote: > > So how about it, coders? Can you check in and let > us know how the > coding is coming along? Link checkers, can you > drink some coffee > and cleanse your systems so you'll be stone cold > sober when the > coders drop their coded FAQs on you for a rush link > check? > Coffee is ready to go! Anything that comes up in the next week I can handle. I go on new hours next week, but will still have mornings free to do link checking. Will await further instructions. :) Sheryll ===== "We need to be united and strong. We'll have losses and scares, sure. And you'll be there for each other, helping each other through the bad times." blpurdom - Harry Potter and the Psychic Serpent, Chapter 26 ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca From skelkins at attbi.com Fri Nov 8 08:59:14 2002 From: skelkins at attbi.com (ssk7882) Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 08:59:14 -0000 Subject: A Poor Worker, Verily, Is Elkins Message-ID: The door in the corner opened, and Elkins walked into the room. This was not, however, an Elkins reduced to semi-lurker status, but an Elkins who was clearly at the height of her posting form. Her prose was not swollen beyond all proportion now; it was sparse and lean and muscular. Elkins looked nervous as she sat down in the chained chair, but it did not bind her there as it had bound Dicentra, and Elkins, perhaps taking heart from this, glanced around at the watching crowd, waved at a couple of them, and managed a small smile. "Elkins, you have been brought here in front of the Council of FAQ Cataloguers to answer charges relating to procrastination," said Cindy. "We have heard the evidence against you, and are about to reach our verdict. Do you have anything to add to your testimony before we pronounce judgment?" Stoned!Harry couldn't believe his ears. Elkins, a Procrastinator? "Only," said Elkins, smiling awkwardly, "well - I know I've been a bit of a slacker--" One or two of the cataloguers in the surrounding seats smiled indulgently. Cindy did not appear to share their feelings. She was staring down at Elkins with an expression of the utmost severity and dislike. "You never spoke a truer word, girl," someone muttered dryly to George behind Stoned!Harry. He looked around and saw Super!Neville sitting there again. "If I didn't know she'd always been hopeless with deadlines, I'd have said that fever had permanently affected her brain." "S.K. Elkins, you were caught neglecting your catalogue, your LupinFAQ and this list for well over a week," said Cindy. "For this, I suggest a term of imprisonment in Azkaban lasting no less than--" But there was an angry outcry from the surrounding benches. Several of the cataloguers around the walls stood up, shaking their heads, and even their fists, at Cindy. "But I've told you, I've been ill!" Elkins called earnestly over the crowd's babble, her round green eyes widening. "I've been sick in bed! I've hardly been able to stand up . . . it never crossed my mind that so much time was passing! I lost track of the days! And whenever I did have a moment to spare...well, Faith kept talking about getting me a job in list administration later on...once my posting days are over, you know...I mean, I can't keep getting accused of over- analyzing the text for the rest of my life, can I?" There were titters from the crowd. "It will be put to the vote," said Cindy coldly. She turned to the right-hand side of the dungeon. "The jury will please raise their hands . . . those in favor of imprisonment..." Stoned!Harry looked toward the right-hand side of the dungeon. Not one person raised their hand. Many of the cataloguers around the walls began to clap. One of the FAQers on the jury stood up. "Yes?" barked Cindy. "We'd just like to congratulate Elkins on her splendid posting record on the main list last spring," the cataloguer said breathlessly. "We're even considering making her a *keyword!*" Cindy looked furious. The dungeon was ringing with applause now. Elkins got to her feet and bowed, beaming. "Despicable," Cindy spat at George, sitting down as Elkins walked out of the dungeon. "Faith get her a job indeed. . . . The day Elkins joins us will be a sad day indeed for list administration. . . ." And the dungeon dissolved again. ------------------------------ Hi, guys. All DEVIL speculations aside, I really have been ill. No, really! I have been! But I've come here to make a stunning annoucement. I'm now half-way done with my block! Erm, no. It really isn't very impressive, is it. But I have been uploading! So if I get hit by a truck, you will be able to benefit from the pathetic and piddling amounts of work that I *have* managed to get done! So you see? I'm really not *utterly* irresponsible. A belated but happy welcome to Ali, and a shame-faced apology to Amy. I will be getting the rest of the Lupin data to you soon, Amy. Promise. The highlight from my last 100 posts was probably this excerpt from message #38469, in which Cindy, while trying to argue that the House Elves must all be under the Imperius Curse, writes: > And the Weasleys? Many of us have wondered why they don't have a > house elf if house elves don't have to be paid. Perhaps the reason > is that Arthur Weasley is too honorable to use an Unforgivable > Curse, even on an elf. > > Ah, that Arthur Weasley is a saint, don't you think? ;-) Indeed. Elkins, who wonders if the other folks on the Trimaran know about this. From cindysphinx at comcast.net Sat Nov 9 00:59:14 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 00:59:14 -0000 Subject: That Hurt-Comfort Thread Is Making Me A Little Bit Queasy! Message-ID: OK, then. I think I finally hit the last post in the Hurt-Comfort thread, which was quite a good thread on the whole. Until the very last posts in the thread started to make me ill. Like, uh, my own unfortunate post proposing a support group for those who crush on Karkaroff and Krum. Uh, no one joined with me on that one. I have no idea why. Cind -- unsure whether it is worse to crush on Karkaroff and Krum or to crush on Fudge From lucky_kari at yahoo.ca Sat Nov 9 02:19:58 2002 From: lucky_kari at yahoo.ca (lucky_kari) Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 02:19:58 -0000 Subject: That Hurt-Comfort Thread Is Making Me A Little Bit Queasy! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "Cindy C." wrote: > OK, then. I think I finally hit the last post in the Hurt-Comfort > thread, which was quite a good thread on the whole. > > Until the very last posts in the thread started to make me ill. > Like, uh, my own unfortunate post proposing a support group for > those who crush on Karkaroff and Krum. Uh, no one joined with me on > that one. I have no idea why. > > Cindy -- unsure whether it is worse to crush on Karkaroff and Krum or > to crush on Fudge Karkaroff definitely. Fudge has power. That was your motivation for going after him in the first place, IIRC. Wait a second! No-one joined you? You're absolutely sure? Of course, I wasn't asking for any particular reason. Of course not. Cindy, I believe you will find that I did take you up on the offer down the line. I'm not sure what I was drinking. I even started into a rant against xenophobic HP fans who read the books to "crush on those stiff upper-lip English" and marched about yelling, "Up with the Slavs!" plus I quoted D.H. Laurence "The English are so nice." I'm still surprised that didn't bring down the whole list about my ears. The English must indeed be nice, in a non-D.H. Laurence sort of way. So, with the idea that it's better to get it over with now rather than let you do it. Here's the incriminating part of the post. ------------------------------------------------------------ > So. Any takers for a slice of Karkaroff or Krum? Krum, I'll take. He's an age-appropriate crush for me, actually. I'll pass up on Karkaroff. > Cindy (who may have to start a support group for women who are > willing to crush on some of the less obvious crush objects in the > books, as there is far less competition for their affection) Go Cindy! And remember that Crouch Sr. is definitely dead sexy. (C.R.A.B.C.U.S.T.A.R.D) ------------------------------------------------------------- So... ummm... yeah. At least, I passed up on Karkaroff. Not sure why I'd want Krum, though. I still stand by Crouch, as you know. Thanx for sorting out that trouble with George, btw. Eileen From cindysphinx at comcast.net Sat Nov 9 17:19:58 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 17:19:58 -0000 Subject: ADMIN to Announce FAQ Move Message-ID: Hi, everyone, I whipped up a draft ADMIN for John to use in announcing the FAQ move and the new FAQs. John is going to improve it and customize it and make it much better as only John can, but this is a start. As you can see, there is a list of the FAQers. Have a look at your name/handle and tell me off-list if you'd like it changed (or if you'd rather not be listed). I'll make the changes and shoot it to John. (John, work from this version because I have cleaned up some most unfortunate SPaG errors). Cindy *********** ::John steps out of line for the CoS movie, juggling popcorn, soda, large package of Milk Duds and an even larger Rock:: Hi, folks, While you're all eagerly awaiting the CoS movie release, we have an exciting announcement of our own to make. The file of Frequently Asked Questions (also known as the FAQs) has been given a face lift. They have been re-named, changed, upgraded, revised, tweaked, expanded and -- most important of all -- moved! That's right. The essays and compilations of many of the fascinating issues members have discussed on the main list will henceforth be called "Fantastic Posts And Where To Find." That's "Fantastic Posts" for short. The Fantastic Posts can now be found at: [link]. Best of all, we have several brand new, never-before-seen Fantastic Posts to unveil. You may now feast your eyes on new or revised essays for HPfGU: A History, Mysteries, Pettigrew, Sirius, Snape and the Weasley Family. In gratitude for all of their hard work on the Fantastic Posts, the Moderator Team has roped off a special section of the very best CoS movie seats for our Fantastic Posts team, and they will be given a single box of chocolate-covered almonds to pass around among themselves: Ali Hewison Amandageist Barb Caius Marcius Catherine Coleman Cindy C. Dicentra Eileen LuckyKari Elfundeb Elkins Eloise Gwen Heidi Tandy Jim Ferer Jim Flanagan Joy Judyserenity Kimberly Lexicon Steve Marina Mike AKA Aberforth's Goat Neil Ward Parker Paul Kippes Penny Pip Pippin Porphyria Sheryll Simon Siriusgeoloist Tabouli Thank you for your attention, and enjoy the show! ::John steps back in line several places farther ahead than he was previously. Movie patrons glance nervously at the Rock and say nothing:: John, For The Mods From editor at texas.net Sat Nov 9 17:28:53 2002 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 11:28:53 -0600 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] ADMIN to Announce FAQ Move References: Message-ID: <00b001c28815$7aa7c020$ee04a6d8@texas.net> Much as I'd love to be on the list and get an almond, I didn't do much besides cheer and read first drafts...should I be there? ~ResentingRealLife!Amanda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy C." To: Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 11:19 AM Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] ADMIN to Announce FAQ Move > Hi, everyone, > > I whipped up a draft ADMIN for John to use in announcing the FAQ > move and the new FAQs. John is going to improve it and customize it > and make it much better as only John can, but this is a start. > > As you can see, there is a list of the FAQers. Have a look at your > name/handle and tell me off-list if you'd like it changed (or if > you'd rather not be listed). I'll make the changes and shoot it to > John. > > (John, work from this version because I have cleaned up some most > unfortunate SPaG errors). > > Cindy > > *********** > > ::John steps out of line for the CoS movie, juggling popcorn, soda, > large package of Milk Duds and an even larger Rock:: > > Hi, folks, > > While you're all eagerly awaiting the CoS movie release, we have an > exciting announcement of our own to make. The file of Frequently > Asked Questions (also known as the FAQs) has been given a face > lift. They have been re-named, changed, upgraded, revised, tweaked, > expanded and -- most important of all -- moved! > > That's right. The essays and compilations of many of the > fascinating issues members have discussed on the main list will > henceforth be called "Fantastic Posts And Where To Find." > That's "Fantastic Posts" for short. The Fantastic Posts can now be > found at: [link]. > > Best of all, we have several brand new, never-before-seen Fantastic > Posts to unveil. You may now feast your eyes on new or revised > essays for HPfGU: A History, Mysteries, Pettigrew, Sirius, Snape and > the Weasley Family. > > In gratitude for all of their hard work on the Fantastic Posts, the > Moderator Team has roped off a special section of the very best CoS > movie seats for our Fantastic Posts team, and they will be given a > single box of chocolate-covered almonds to pass around among > themselves: > > Ali Hewison > Amandageist > Barb > Caius Marcius > Catherine Coleman > Cindy C. > Dicentra > Eileen LuckyKari > Elfundeb > Elkins > Eloise > Gwen > Heidi Tandy > Jim Ferer > Jim Flanagan > Joy > Judyserenity > Kimberly > Lexicon Steve > Marina > Mike AKA Aberforth's Goat > Neil Ward > Parker > Paul Kippes > Penny > Pip > Pippin > Porphyria > Sheryll > Simon > Siriusgeoloist > Tabouli > > Thank you for your attention, and enjoy the show! > > ::John steps back in line several places farther ahead than he was > previously. Movie patrons glance nervously at the Rock and say > nothing:: > > John, For The Mods > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > From cindysphinx at comcast.net Sat Nov 9 18:37:48 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 18:37:48 -0000 Subject: ADMIN to Announce FAQ Move In-Reply-To: <00b001c28815$7aa7c020$ee04a6d8@texas.net> Message-ID: Amanda asked: > Much as I'd love to be on the list and get an almond, I didn't do >much besides cheer and read first drafts...should I be there? Hey, guys, we're a team, right? Of course we should list the whole team unless someone doesn't want to be listed for whatever reason. Like being in the Witness Protection Program or some such. ;-) Cindy From judyshapiro at directvinternet.com Sat Nov 9 19:35:01 2002 From: judyshapiro at directvinternet.com (Judy Shapiro) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:35:01 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] ADMIN to Announce FAQ Move Message-ID: <01C287FD.316A7050.judyshapiro@directvinternet.com> Hi, Cindy! I just looked this over. Although I was signed up on HP4GU-FAQ, I never found any time to actually *work* on the FAQs. So, I really shouldn't be on the list of people who helped, especially since I know that a lot of people on the list did a *ton* of work. Judy -----Original Message----- From: Cindy C. [SMTP:cindysphinx at comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 12:20 PM To: HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] ADMIN to Announce FAQ Move Hi, everyone, I whipped up a draft ADMIN for John to use in announcing the FAQ move and the new FAQs. John is going to improve it and customize it and make it much better as only John can, but this is a start. As you can see, there is a list of the FAQers. Have a look at your name/handle and tell me off-list if you'd like it changed (or if you'd rather not be listed). I'll make the changes and shoot it to John. (John, work from this version because I have cleaned up some most unfortunate SPaG errors). Cindy *********** ::John steps out of line for the CoS movie, juggling popcorn, soda, large package of Milk Duds and an even larger Rock:: Hi, folks, While you're all eagerly awaiting the CoS movie release, we have an exciting announcement of our own to make. The file of Frequently Asked Questions (also known as the FAQs) has been given a face lift. They have been re-named, changed, upgraded, revised, tweaked, expanded and -- most important of all -- moved! That's right. The essays and compilations of many of the fascinating issues members have discussed on the main list will henceforth be called "Fantastic Posts And Where To Find." That's "Fantastic Posts" for short. The Fantastic Posts can now be found at: [link]. Best of all, we have several brand new, never-before-seen Fantastic Posts to unveil. You may now feast your eyes on new or revised essays for HPfGU: A History, Mysteries, Pettigrew, Sirius, Snape and the Weasley Family. In gratitude for all of their hard work on the Fantastic Posts, the Moderator Team has roped off a special section of the very best CoS movie seats for our Fantastic Posts team, and they will be given a single box of chocolate-covered almonds to pass around among themselves: Ali Hewison Amandageist Barb Caius Marcius Catherine Coleman Cindy C. Dicentra Eileen LuckyKari Elfundeb Elkins Eloise Gwen Heidi Tandy Jim Ferer Jim Flanagan Joy Judyserenity Kimberly Lexicon Steve Marina Mike AKA Aberforth's Goat Neil Ward Parker Paul Kippes Penny Pip Pippin Porphyria Sheryll Simon Siriusgeoloist Tabouli Thank you for your attention, and enjoy the show! ::John steps back in line several places farther ahead than he was previously. Movie patrons glance nervously at the Rock and say nothing:: John, For The Mods To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From cindysphinx at comcast.net Sat Nov 9 20:24:22 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 20:24:22 -0000 Subject: Catalogue And You Too Can Be Ready For Anything! Message-ID: Hey, did you all catch that? Pip was posting on the Anti-Christ thread on the main list Message 46387. In her most excellent post, Pip whipped out a reference to Message 26616. How did she do that? Why, from cataloguing that particular message block, of course! In fact, our intrepid cataloguers have become Super!Posters, capable of meeting any argument, no matter how obscure, by citing to a Fantastic Post on the list. Oh, you do *not* want to get in a main list squabble with a FAQer, because they have the wisdom of thousands of posts at their disposal. Cindy -- still sitting in a stiff-backed chair, thinking of more perfectly good reasons to catalogue From porphyria at mindspring.com Sat Nov 9 21:31:00 2002 From: porphyria at mindspring.com (Porphyria) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:31:00 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Calling All Link Checkers and Coders! In-Reply-To: <20021108052138.73693.qmail@web41112.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8AB6C959-F42A-11D6-A571-000393465128@mindspring.com> Here are a few short FAQs for link-checking for anyone with time: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/FAServersStaging/ Universal Religion Neville Send corrections directly to me. ~Porphryia From lucky_kari at yahoo.ca Sat Nov 9 21:47:27 2002 From: lucky_kari at yahoo.ca (lucky_kari) Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 21:47:27 -0000 Subject: Calling All Link Checkers and Coders! In-Reply-To: <8AB6C959-F42A-11D6-A571-000393465128@mindspring.com> Message-ID: --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., Porphyria wrote: > Here are a few short FAQs for link-checking for anyone with time: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/FAServersStaging/ > > Universal > Religion > Neville > > Send corrections directly to me. > ~Porphryia I'll do religion. Eileen From porphyria at mindspring.com Sat Nov 9 22:49:28 2002 From: porphyria at mindspring.com (Porphyria) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:49:28 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Calling All Link Checkers and Coders! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <809CE0F6-F435-11D6-A571-000393465128@mindspring.com> Thanks a zillion, Eileen. Here's another for whomever has time, the ginger-colored Weasley Family: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/FAServersStaging/weasley.html Note: this one points to the Ron FAQ and the Romantic Pairings FAQ, which I haven't converted yet, so those links will be broken until I upload the files. Thanks! ~P. On Saturday, November 9, 2002, at 04:47 PM, lucky_kari wrote: > --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., Porphyria wrote: > > Here are a few short FAQs for link-checking for anyone with time: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/FAServersStaging/ > > > > Universal > > Religion > > Neville > > > > Send corrections directly to me. > > ~Porphryia > > I'll do religion. > > Eileen > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ~~~~~~~ "Smell is the most powerful trigger to the memory there is. A certain flower or a whiff of smoke can bring up experiences long forgotten. Books smell... musty and rich. The knowledge gained from a computer is... it has no texture, no context. It's there and then it's gone. If it's to last, then the getting of knowledge should be tangible. It should be, um... smelly." -- Giles, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, "I Robot, You Jane" [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From porphyria at mindspring.com Sat Nov 9 23:40:15 2002 From: porphyria at mindspring.com (Porphyria) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:40:15 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Calling All Link Checkers and Coders! In-Reply-To: <809CE0F6-F435-11D6-A571-000393465128@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <98EBC11A-F43C-11D6-A571-000393465128@mindspring.com> Any stalwart shippers out there? Then link-check: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU- FAQ/files/FAServersStaging/romantic.html It would help if you are, or would like to become, a member of PoA and Harrypotteranonymous. Thanks, Porphyria From skelkins at attbi.com Sat Nov 9 23:59:21 2002 From: skelkins at attbi.com (ssk7882) Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 23:59:21 -0000 Subject: It is not wise to find symbols in everything that one sees... Message-ID: Okay. So I've just been tooling along, cataloguing posts , and here are the major points that people were trying to make back (not all on the same thread, of course!) in the early April of this year. - Harry is a Christ figure. - He will meet his end through decapitation at Ron's hands. - Ron is jealous of his brothers and may become ESE. - Ron will be tempted to act against Harry due to his thwarted desire for Hermione -- and may become ESE. - FITD: Ron has an unrequited thing for Hermione, who has an unrequited thing for Harry, who doesn't want *anybody* that way, because Romance Just Isn't In the Cards For Christ Figures. In addition, I recently received an off-list in which someone was complaining to me about Fanon!Hermione. Specifically, about how some fanfic authors like to dress her up. "Why must they always dress Hermione like such a harlot?" said correspondent complained. "Hermione would never be caught *dead* dressed like that!" I also noted with some amusement that Dan Radcliffe drool-fest over on OTC last week. Erm. Is this combination of ideas leading anyone else to the same Bad Bad *BAD* Place that it keeps leading me? -------------- Hermione, having danced the Dance of the Seven Obstacles for Evil! Ron, now claims her prize. In spite of having himself murdered his older brothers in order to usurp their positions, Evil!Ron averts his face in horror. Hermione (addressing the head of Harry Potter): "Ah! thou wouldst not suffer me to kiss thy mouth, Harry Potter. Well! I will kiss it now. I will bite it with my teeth as one bites a ripe fruit. Yes, I will kiss thy mouth, Harry Potter. I said it; did I not say it? I said it. Ah! I will kiss it now . . . . "But wherefore dost thou not look at me, Harry Potter? Thine eyes that were so terrible, so full of rage and scorn, are shut now. Wherefore are they shut? Open thine eyes! Lift up thine eyelids, Harry Potter! Wherefore dost thou not look at me? Art thou afraid of me, Harry Potter, that thou wilt not look at me? . . . "And thy tongue, that was like a red snake darting poison, it moves no more, it speaks no words, Harry Potter, that scarlet viper that spat its venom upon me. It is strange, is it not? How is it that the red viper stirs no longer?. . . Ah, Harry Potter, Harry Potter, thou wert the man that I loved alone among men! All other men were hateful to me. But thou wert beautiful! Thy body was a column of ivory set upon feet of silver. It was a garden full of doves and lilies of silver. It was a tower of silver decked with shields of ivory. There was nothing in the world so white as thy body. There was nothing in the world so black as thy hair. . . . . Ah! ah! wherefore didst thou not look at me? If thou hadst looked at me thou hadst loved me. Well I know that thou wouldst have loved me. "And the mystery of Love is greater than the mystery of Death." --------------------- Help me! Help me! I. Can't. Get. RID of it! -- Elkins -------- "Ah! I can breathe now. How red those petals are! They are like stains of blood on the cloth. That does not matter. It is not wise to find symbols in everything that one sees. It makes life too full of terrors. It were better to say that stains of blood are as lovely as rose-petals. It were better far to say that . . . . But we will not speak of this." -- Herod, in Oscar Wilde's "Salome" From hp_lexicon at yahoo.com Sun Nov 10 00:33:36 2002 From: hp_lexicon at yahoo.com (hp_lexicon) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 00:33:36 -0000 Subject: New look for Fantastic Posts; Mainpage In-Reply-To: <049c01c283ab$992d14f0$4f5ffea9@cq5hs01> Message-ID: --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., Penny Linsenmayer wrote: > Hi -- > > <<<<<<< http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU- FAQ/files/SampleTemplates/mainpage.html > > It's inspired by the actual cover of FB, but adapted for better web > viewing. It's beautiful! I love that rich red pebbly leather background. Where did you get it and is it copyrighted? Steve From hp_lexicon at yahoo.com Sun Nov 10 00:41:42 2002 From: hp_lexicon at yahoo.com (hp_lexicon) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 00:41:42 -0000 Subject: a question of being accurate Message-ID: I notice that in several places in the FAQs the term "Maruaders" is used to refer to James etc. This is not correct, of course; the four are not refered to as the Marauders anywhere and the name of the map is singular (Marauder) not plural, so that doesn't refer to a group of people either. Would it be wise in a site as carefully researched and as authoritative as this one to not include incorrect terms such as this? Steve From porphyria at mindspring.com Sun Nov 10 00:44:37 2002 From: porphyria at mindspring.com (Porphyria) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:44:37 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: New look for Fantastic Posts; Mainpage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <96ED530E-F445-11D6-A571-000393465128@mindspring.com> Steve remarked: > It's beautiful! I love that rich red pebbly leather background. > Where did you get it and is it copyrighted? To the best of my knowledge, no. I got the black version off of one of those 'free to good home' background-tile-graphic sites. I hand-tinted it burgundy myself. http://www.grsites.com/textures/ That's where most of the FP graphics came from. I read the small print and it said anyone could use it as long as it was on a non-commercial web site and you didn't try to sell the graphic to someone else. Thanks, Porphryia [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From heidit at netbox.com Sun Nov 10 00:46:05 2002 From: heidit at netbox.com (Heidi Tandy) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:46:05 -0400 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: New look for Fantastic Posts; Mainpage Message-ID: We should consider having a copyright notice on the bottom of all the pages and I can certainly do a filing for everything that goes up when we go live, in the name of HP Education Fanon, Inc. We interested? -----Original Message----- From: "hp_lexicon" Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 00:33:36 To:HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: New look for Fantastic Posts; Mainpage Real-To: "hp_lexicon" --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., Penny Linsenmayer wrote: > Hi -- > > <<<<<<< http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU- FAQ/files/SampleTemplates/mainpage.html > > It's inspired by the actual cover of FB, but adapted for better web > viewing. It's beautiful! I love that rich red pebbly leather background. Where did you get it and is it copyrighted? Steve To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From porphyria at mindspring.com Sun Nov 10 00:50:13 2002 From: porphyria at mindspring.com (Porphyria) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:50:13 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] a question of being accurate In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5EDD3ADE-F446-11D6-A571-000393465128@mindspring.com> Steve asked: > I notice that in several places in the FAQs the term "Maruaders" is > used to refer to James etc. This is not correct, of course; the four > are not refered to as the Marauders anywhere and the name of the map > is singular (Marauder) not plural, so that doesn't refer to a group > of people either. Would it be wise in a site as carefully researched > and as authoritative as this one to not include incorrect terms such > as this? Good question, but I believe the consensus is that we, the HPfGU community, use that term to refer to James, Sirius, Remus and Peter collectively. I plan to put a brief glossary in the Snape FAQ explaining this, and remarking on its non-canonical status. While it would be possible to write a FAQ without using this term, the second the newbie clicks on a link to the files they'll see the term, so we might as well admit to it. That's the thinking, at least. ~P. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From heidit at netbox.com Sun Nov 10 00:48:04 2002 From: heidit at netbox.com (Heidi Tandy) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:48:04 -0400 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] It is not wise to find symbols in everything that one sees... Message-ID: Thebadplace.info Growing, soon. -----Original Message----- From: "ssk7882" Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 23:59:21 To:HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] It is not wise to find symbols in everything that one sees... Real-To: "ssk7882" Okay. So I've just been tooling along, cataloguing posts , and here are the major points that people were trying to make back (not all on the same thread, of course!) in the early April of this year. - Harry is a Christ figure. - He will meet his end through decapitation at Ron's hands. - Ron is jealous of his brothers and may become ESE. - Ron will be tempted to act against Harry due to his thwarted desire for Hermione -- and may become ESE. - FITD: Ron has an unrequited thing for Hermione, who has an unrequited thing for Harry, who doesn't want *anybody* that way, because Romance Just Isn't In the Cards For Christ Figures. In addition, I recently received an off-list in which someone was complaining to me about Fanon!Hermione. Specifically, about how some fanfic authors like to dress her up. "Why must they always dress Hermione like such a harlot?" said correspondent complained. "Hermione would never be caught *dead* dressed like that!" I also noted with some amusement that Dan Radcliffe drool-fest over on OTC last week. Erm. Is this combination of ideas leading anyone else to the same Bad Bad *BAD* Place that it keeps leading me? -------------- Hermione, having danced the Dance of the Seven Obstacles for Evil! Ron, now claims her prize. In spite of having himself murdered his older brothers in order to usurp their positions, Evil!Ron averts his face in horror. Hermione (addressing the head of Harry Potter): "Ah! thou wouldst not suffer me to kiss thy mouth, Harry Potter. Well! I will kiss it now. I will bite it with my teeth as one bites a ripe fruit. Yes, I will kiss thy mouth, Harry Potter. I said it; did I not say it? I said it. Ah! I will kiss it now . . . . "But wherefore dost thou not look at me, Harry Potter? Thine eyes that were so terrible, so full of rage and scorn, are shut now. Wherefore are they shut? Open thine eyes! Lift up thine eyelids, Harry Potter! Wherefore dost thou not look at me? Art thou afraid of me, Harry Potter, that thou wilt not look at me? . . . "And thy tongue, that was like a red snake darting poison, it moves no more, it speaks no words, Harry Potter, that scarlet viper that spat its venom upon me. It is strange, is it not? How is it that the red viper stirs no longer?. . . Ah, Harry Potter, Harry Potter, thou wert the man that I loved alone among men! All other men were hateful to me. But thou wert beautiful! Thy body was a column of ivory set upon feet of silver. It was a garden full of doves and lilies of silver. It was a tower of silver decked with shields of ivory. There was nothing in the world so white as thy body. There was nothing in the world so black as thy hair. . . . . Ah! ah! wherefore didst thou not look at me? If thou hadst looked at me thou hadst loved me. Well I know that thou wouldst have loved me. "And the mystery of Love is greater than the mystery of Death." --------------------- Help me! Help me! I. Can't. Get. RID of it! -- Elkins -------- "Ah! I can breathe now. How red those petals are! They are like stains of blood on the cloth. That does not matter. It is not wise to find symbols in everything that one sees. It makes life too full of terrors. It were better to say that stains of blood are as lovely as rose-petals. It were better far to say that . . . . But we will not speak of this." -- Herod, in Oscar Wilde's "Salome" To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From porphyria at mindspring.com Sun Nov 10 00:55:48 2002 From: porphyria at mindspring.com (Porphyria) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:55:48 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: New look for Fantastic Posts; Mainpage In-Reply-To: <200211091948.18aGhg10E3Nl3rE0@bissell.mail.mindspring.net> Message-ID: <26D17B2A-F447-11D6-A571-000393465128@mindspring.com> Heidi wrote: > We should consider having a copyright notice on the bottom of all the > pages and I can certainly do a filing for everything that goes up when we > go live, in the name of HP Education Fanon, Inc. > > We interested? Sure, great idea! Please note, there *is* a copyright notice at the bottom of everything I've coded. If that's not the right wording, please let me know. All more-or-less completed FAQs are housed here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/FAServersStaging/ ~P. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From porphyria at mindspring.com Sun Nov 10 00:56:25 2002 From: porphyria at mindspring.com (Porphyria) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:56:25 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Calling All Link Checkers and Coders! In-Reply-To: <98EBC11A-F43C-11D6-A571-000393465128@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <3CF844BA-F447-11D6-A571-000393465128@mindspring.com> And another, the scary Lord Voldemort: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU- FAQ/files/FAServersStaging/voldemort.html Please someone, claim this and link-check it. ~Porphyria p.s. Thanks, Elkins, for putting me in a decadent frame of mind: http://www.masters-of- photography.com/artchive/b/beardsley/beardsley_climax.jpg From skelkins at attbi.com Sun Nov 10 00:58:25 2002 From: skelkins at attbi.com (ssk7882) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 00:58:25 -0000 Subject: Calling All Link Checkers and Coders! In-Reply-To: <8AB6C959-F42A-11D6-A571-000393465128@mindspring.com> Message-ID: I'll check Neville right now. Anything, to escape the Bad Place. Elkins (assuming, perhaps erroneously, that there will be very few Bad Places in the Neville FAQ) From cindysphinx at comcast.net Sun Nov 10 01:02:50 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 01:02:50 -0000 Subject: a question of being accurate In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Steve wrote (on Marauders): > I notice that in several places in the FAQs the term "Maruaders" >is used to refer to James etc. Oh, Steve. These FAQs will strip you of your canon purity in a New York minute. You'll find all manner of non-canonical shorthand references that reflect the wacky character of the list. Stoned! Harry. The Prank. So yeah, we can probably stick with Marauders. It might be one of the most canonical forms of shorthand you'll see in the FAQs. ;-) And yup, Heidi, getting some sort of copyright protection sounds like a plan. And Steve, I'll let you know when you can delete the old FAQs from your server. Should we have a solemn memorial service and do the thing properly? Amy? Goat? Cindy From hp_lexicon at yahoo.com Sun Nov 10 01:07:33 2002 From: hp_lexicon at yahoo.com (hp_lexicon) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 01:07:33 -0000 Subject: a question of being accurate In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "Cindy C." wrote: > Oh, Steve. These FAQs will strip you of your canon purity in a New > York minute. LOL YOu forget that I edited and laid-out the first edition of these FAQs myself, and my purity is unsmirched. At least I don't read fanfics, that's all I can say. (ducking quickly, knowing that Heidi is online) Steve From heidit at netbox.com Sun Nov 10 01:07:07 2002 From: heidit at netbox.com (Heidi Tandy) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:07:07 -0400 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: a question of being accurate Message-ID: : tosses cookie from surfeit of curses at steve Am actually not online but up in son's room watching peter and the wolf for umpteenth time. -----Original Message----- From: "hp_lexicon" Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 01:07:33 To:HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: a question of being accurate Real-To: "hp_lexicon" --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "Cindy C." wrote: > Oh, Steve. These FAQs will strip you of your canon purity in a New > York minute. LOL YOu forget that I edited and laid-out the first edition of these FAQs myself, and my purity is unsmirched. At least I don't read fanfics, that's all I can say. (ducking quickly, knowing that Heidi is online) Steve To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From s_ings at yahoo.com Sun Nov 10 01:12:07 2002 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:12:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Calling All Link Checkers and Coders! In-Reply-To: <3CF844BA-F447-11D6-A571-000393465128@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <20021110011207.80533.qmail@web41105.mail.yahoo.com> --- Porphyria wrote: > And another, the scary Lord Voldemort: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU- > FAQ/files/FAServersStaging/voldemort.html > > Please someone, claim this and link-check it. > > ~Porphyria I'll take this one. If no one claims the Universal one by morning, I'll take that one, too. :) Sheryll ===== "We need to be united and strong. We'll have losses and scares, sure. And you'll be there for each other, helping each other through the bad times." blpurdom - Harry Potter and the Psychic Serpent, Chapter 26 ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca From dicentra at xmission.com Sun Nov 10 01:51:44 2002 From: dicentra at xmission.com (dicentra63) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 01:51:44 -0000 Subject: a question of being accurate In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "hp_lexicon" wrote: > --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "Cindy C." wrote: > > Oh, Steve. These FAQs will strip you of your canon purity in a > New > > York minute. > > LOL > > YOu forget that I edited and laid-out the first edition of these > FAQs myself, and my purity is unsmirched. If it's any comfort, Steve, I've got a link to a post of yours pointing out HPfGU's "unique" use of Marauders in the SiriFAQ. At the very bottom... :D --Dicey, who used MWPP to designate the four as a group From skelkins at attbi.com Sun Nov 10 02:15:37 2002 From: skelkins at attbi.com (ssk7882) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 02:15:37 -0000 Subject: It is not wise to find symbols in everything that one sees... Message-ID: --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "Heidi Tandy" wrote: > Thebadplace.info > > Growing, soon. LOL! Thanks, Heidi. I'd never seen that site before! Oh. And a while back, Cindy asked: > So, uh, how come we never get treated to any discussion of Hermione > from this Unnamed FAQer? Well. Now you *know* why. Elkins From porphyria at mindspring.com Sun Nov 10 03:15:18 2002 From: porphyria at mindspring.com (Porphyria) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:15:18 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Calling All Link Checkers and Coders! In-Reply-To: <20021110011207.80533.qmail@web41105.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: And Government is ready for a link-check: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/FAServersStaging/government. html Thanks, ~P From editor at texas.net Sun Nov 10 03:30:18 2002 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:30:18 -0600 Subject: Snape FAQ clarification, sorry so late Message-ID: <008b01c28869$7ee55ea0$fb04a6d8@texas.net> I post this here so it can get the editorial input of others, too.... RE: The paragraph in the almost-launched SnapeFAQ that reads: He lies... He lies..." Voldemort can always tell when someone's lying: he says so. Or can he? Amanda fears Veritaserum (15299) but calls his overconfidence on this point his "fatal flaw" (17472). In that same post, she also speaks to Voldemort's vanity, and posits that Snape can flatter him into accepting Snape back. And Judy Serenity (34623) also uses the term "fatal flaw" in reference to Voldemort's ability to perceive lies. However, many detractors of Snape-as-spy do give Voldemort's claims credence. I remembered wondering about something, and upon rereading, this was it. ...the third sentence, starting with "Amanda" may be more clear if worded as follows---- Amanda fears that Snape's cover would definitely be blown if Voldemort uses Veritaserum (15299), but doubts he will--Voldemort's belief that he is infallible at detecting falsehood in others may be his "fatal flaw" that allows Snape to survive and rejoin the circle (17472). Is that better? Because I was confused when I read the first version, as to just what I'd been saying about whom, and had to go back and check... ~Amanda From porphyria at mindspring.com Sun Nov 10 03:42:03 2002 From: porphyria at mindspring.com (Porphyria) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:42:03 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Snape FAQ clarification, sorry so late In-Reply-To: <008b01c28869$7ee55ea0$fb04a6d8@texas.net> Message-ID: <60394BCC-F45E-11D6-A571-000393465128@mindspring.com> Sure, Amanda, I'll change that for you. I'll be incorporating a few other edits to that file (like a very brief glossary of buzz words), so you can look for the update in the next couple of days. Thanks for the suggestion. ~P. > Amanda fears Veritaserum (15299) but calls his > overconfidence on this point his "fatal flaw" (17472). will become: > Amanda fears that Snape's cover would definitely be blown if Voldemort > uses > Veritaserum (15299), but doubts he will--Voldemort's belief that he is > infallible at detecting falsehood in others may be his "fatal flaw" that > allows Snape to survive and rejoin the circle (17472). [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From editor at texas.net Sun Nov 10 04:11:27 2002 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:11:27 -0600 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Snape FAQ clarification, sorry so late References: <60394BCC-F45E-11D6-A571-000393465128@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <00aa01c2886f$3e580b20$fb04a6d8@texas.net> Oh, and thanks for letting me be the first name you cited in the Snape-loved-Lily section....LOL. Chocolate heading your way. Seriously, the Snape FAQ had to have easily been the most convoluted, complicated, and massive, and I am simply in awe of you that you got your mind around all that and produced such a great, coherent summary. You are amazing and I now confer upon you the title "Expert Snapologist." Or something with a snappier acronym, I'm not up to that at this hour. ~Amanda, loving Porphyria for doing her favorite character justice From moongirlk at yahoo.com Sun Nov 10 04:15:53 2002 From: moongirlk at yahoo.com (Kimberly) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 04:15:53 -0000 Subject: Calling All Link Checkers and Coders! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., Porphyria wrote: > And Government is ready for a link-check: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU- FAQ/files/FAServersStaging/government. > html > > Thanks, ~P I'll take it! I got home early and I'm feeling the need to pull my weight now that somebody's stuck my name on something. kimberly From elfundeb at comcast.net Sun Nov 10 06:21:39 2002 From: elfundeb at comcast.net (elfundeb) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 01:21:39 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Calling All Link Checkers and Coders! References: <809CE0F6-F435-11D6-A571-000393465128@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <001d01c28881$6de55520$3a3b3244@arlngt01.va.comcast.net> I will check the Weasley FAQ, first thing in the morning. I'd like to think I'd contributed in some meager way to the current unveiling, if my name will be on the list to be published. Besides, I need a break from cataloguing the Twins are Bullies thread, not so much because it's tedious but because it's depressing, reading over and over again how pleased people are to see Draco being stomped on . . . . But I also find it depressing how pleased people are that the first sniper case will be tried in the state most likely to inflict capital punishment. Even more depressing that I live there. Debbie whose bleeding heart is working overtime ----- Original Message ----- From: Porphyria To: HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Calling All Link Checkers and Coders! Thanks a zillion, Eileen. Here's another for whomever has time, the ginger-colored Weasley Family: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/FAServersStaging/weasley.html Note: this one points to the Ron FAQ and the Romantic Pairings FAQ, which I haven't converted yet, so those links will be broken until I upload the files. Thanks! ~P. On Saturday, November 9, 2002, at 04:47 PM, lucky_kari wrote: > --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., Porphyria wrote: > > Here are a few short FAQs for link-checking for anyone with time: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/FAServersStaging/ > > > > Universal > > Religion > > Neville > > > > Send corrections directly to me. > > ~Porphryia > > I'll do religion. > > Eileen > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ~~~~~~~ "Smell is the most powerful trigger to the memory there is. A certain flower or a whiff of smoke can bring up experiences long forgotten. Books smell... musty and rich. The knowledge gained from a computer is... it has no texture, no context. It's there and then it's gone. If it's to last, then the getting of knowledge should be tangible. It should be, um... smelly." -- Giles, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, "I Robot, You Jane" [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From porphyria at mindspring.com Sun Nov 10 09:43:45 2002 From: porphyria at mindspring.com (Porphyria) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 04:43:45 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Calling All Link Checkers and Coders! In-Reply-To: <001d01c28881$6de55520$3a3b3244@arlngt01.va.comcast.net> Message-ID: Thanks to all of you who've volunteered to do a link check. For those of you who still have time, there's plenty left. If you go here and read the comment field, you can just pick one that says 'link-check me' : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/FAServersStaging/ Still waiting as of this writing are Universal, Ron, Romantic Pairings, Pettigrew, McGonagall, the Dursleys, and Magical Devices. Thanks all, Porphyria From eloiseherisson at aol.com Sun Nov 10 09:50:00 2002 From: eloiseherisson at aol.com (eloiseherisson at aol.com) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 04:50:00 EST Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] A Poor Worker, Verily, Is Elkins Message-ID: <53.1f16e4ed.2aff85c8@aol.com> >>>We simply have to face up to what is happening here. We need a new keyword. A keyword for really good and long and detailed posts that take many lines to catalogue. Mmmm, how about simply "Elkins?" ;-)<<< > >>"We'd just like to congratulate Elkins on her splendid posting record > on the main list last spring," the cataloguer said breathlessly. > "We're even considering making her a *keyword!*"<<< > "What we need here," piped up Eloise, peering out from behind the wall of books on Iron Age Europe on the table in the corner of the common room, "is an *acronym*! "How about, 'E.L.K.I.N.S.', for posts which are: Extremely Long, Keenly Inspired and Noteworthily Subversive? "Oh, and if Mr Crouch asks, you haven't seen me," she said, disappearing from view once more. Eloise Very tempted in the light of such threads as Hurt-Comfort and Perversion in the Graveyard to use Kinky for the 'K'. ;-) And hoping Elkins is feeling better. And feeling terribly guilty that she can't offer to link-check or anything at the moment as she's under Imperio from her Archaeology Prof until at least Tuesday. And even more guilty that she's taking time off to see CoS this afternoon (parental duty, you know.) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From cindysphinx at comcast.net Sun Nov 10 12:06:08 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 12:06:08 -0000 Subject: Calling All Link Checkers and Coders! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Porphyria: > Still waiting as of this writing are Universal, Ron, Romantic >Pairings, Pettigrew, McGonagall, the Dursleys, and Magical Devices. I'll take Pettigrew and note that fact in the staging area file thingy. I second the E.L.K.I.N.S. acronym and am working on a fiendish plan to work it into a post on the main list so that it can then be preserved for all time in Inish Alley. Oh, Elkins will really appreciate that, I'm thinking. :-D And I hereby propose that Porphyria be given a promotion. Um, how about Supreme Snapologist, Chief Coder, Master Motivator and Organizational Overlord? Cindy -- offering to learn HTML so that she can help with the coding if Porphyria will take her by the hand and teach her every single thing, including what the sam hill code *is* From cindysphinx at comcast.net Sun Nov 10 12:37:43 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 12:37:43 -0000 Subject: Pettigrew FAQ Link Check & Call for JKR Interview LOON Help Message-ID: Hi, all, OK, I give. I need to find the JKR interview or on-line chat where she says or suggests that Hagrid was in Gryffindor. Is there such a thing? Can anyone find it? *********************** Porphyria, The links in Pettigrew work except the following: "Lily" and "Hagrid" link to nothing. The intent was to have them link to on-line chats about whether Lily was in Gryffindor. Link to the JKR Aberforth's goat interview site instead? Lily: http://www.scholastic.com/harrypotter/author/transcript2.htm I couldn't find anything saying Hagrid was in Gryffindor, as I say above. The sentence "Fortunately, Penny has attacked this question in her Mysteries FAQ; if the gentle reader isn't satisfied with her theories, she will have to make up her own" should be changed to "Fortunately, this question is addressed in the Mysteries Fantastic Post; if the gentle reader isn't satisfied, she will have to make up her own." Change "Go read Penny's Mysteries FAQ" to "Go read the Mysteries Fantastic Posts." Delete the link to "Judas"; it links to a list of Christmas merchandise. Unless I'm missing some really sophisticated joke or something. Am I? Oh, I am, aren't I? You make the call on that one, 'kay Porphyria? Delete the entire sentence stating that the "Nausobionna" web is now back on line. No, it's not. Some of the Filks link to nothing. So the correct URLs are: "The Way We Gnaw": http://home.att.net/~coriolan/voldemort/peter.htm#The_Way_We_Gnaw "You're Bad For Me": http://home.att.net/~coriolan/voldemort/peter.htm#You're_Bad_for_Me "The Master You Know Who": http://home.att.net/~coriolan/voldemort/voldemort.htm#My_Master,_You- Know-Who Cindy From cindysphinx at comcast.net Sun Nov 10 12:42:30 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 12:42:30 -0000 Subject: We Need To Decide -- Are We Calling These Things "FPs"? Message-ID: Hi, all, I'm tinkering with the ADMIN to clarify some things that have been suggested to me off-list. And I have a question. What is our shorthand reference for these essays? Are we going to call these things "Fantastic Posts" or "FPs"? So will we say the "Mysteries FP" or will we say the "Mysteries Fantastic Posts" or "Mysteries 'Fantastic Posts'" or what, exactly? Yeah. I know I am really splitting hairs, but I might as well adhere to whatever shorthand we think is best in drafting the ADMIN. Does anyone have an opinion or is this just way too dumb to even worry about? Cindy -- who splits hairs for a living From cindysphinx at comcast.net Sun Nov 10 15:31:06 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:31:06 -0000 Subject: Ron FAQ Link Check Message-ID: Porphyria, Here are my changes: Delete "An in depth character study is coming soon." Other than that, it's ready to go! Cindy From eloiseherisson at aol.com Sun Nov 10 16:55:16 2002 From: eloiseherisson at aol.com (eloiseherisson at aol.com) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 11:55:16 EST Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Pettigrew FAQ Link Check & Call for JKR Interview LOON Help Message-ID: <55.30eeddcb.2affe974@aol.com> In a message dated 10/11/2002 12:38:46 GMT Standard Time, cindysphinx at comcast.net writes: > OK, I give. I need to find the JKR interview or on-line chat where > she says or suggests that Hagrid was in Gryffindor. Is there such a > thing? Can anyone find it? > > Eloise pokes her head out again - boy is it hard to work with all the talk going on round here - it's the Barnes and Noble/Yahoo on-line chat Oct 20, 2000 http://www.geocities.com/aberforths_goat/October_2000_Live_Chat_ Barnes_Noble.htm >>And I hereby propose that Porphyria be given a promotion. Um, how about Supreme Snapologist, Chief Coder, Master Motivator and Organizational Overlord? SSCCMMOO?? Needs a bit of work, that one! Eloise Thinking Porphyria would be more of a challenge to acronymise than Elkins [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From cindysphinx at comcast.net Sun Nov 10 16:55:38 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:55:38 -0000 Subject: Dumbledore's office gave an almighty lurch . . . Message-ID: The door in the corner of the FAQ dungeon opened and three people entered ? or at least one woman, flanked by two enormous message blocks. Pip's insides went cold. The message blocks ?- tall, impenetrable chunks of work ? were gliding slowly, and the woman caught between looked as though she were about to faint. Pip couldn't blame her ?- she remembered the power of the message blocks to drain the lifeblood from cataloguers. Pip looked down at the woman now sitting in the chair and saw that it was Cindy. "Cindy," said a curt voice to Pip's left. She looked around and saw Eloise standing up in the middle of the bench beside her. Her papers were written, her mid-terms completed, she looked fit and alert. "You have been brought from the FAQ dungeon to present evidence to the Moderators. You have given us to understand that you have important information for us." Cindy straightened herself as best she could, tightly bound to the chair. "I have," she said, and although her voice was very scared, Pip could still hear the familiar unctuous note in it. "I wish to be of use to the Moderators. I -- I know the Moderators are trying to -? to recruit more list members to catalogue for the FAQ group. I am eager to assist in any way I can . . . . " There was a murmur around the benches. Then Pip heard, quite distinctly from Lexicon Steve's other side, a familiar, growling voice saying, "Slacker." Pip leaned forward so that she could see past Steve. Elkins was sitting there ?- except there was a noticeable difference in her appearance. She no longer had an iron lung, but two normal ones. She looked down upon Cindy with intense dislike, breathing noisily. "Eloise is going to let her out of cataloguing," Elkins wheezed quietly to Steve. "She's done a deal with her. Took me six months to teach her to catalogue, and Eloise is going to let her out of cataloguing if she's got enough new listmember e-mails. Let's hear her information, I say, and throw her straight back into cataloguing." Steve made a small noise of dissent through his long and canonically pure website. "Ah, but I was forgetting . . . you don't like cataloguing, do you Steve?" said Elkins with a twisted smile. "No," said Steve calmly, "I'm afraid I don't. I have long felt the Moderators were wrong to force list members to catalogue." "But for slackers like this . . . " Elkins hissed. "You say you have list member e-mails for us, Cindy," said Eloise. "Let us hear them, please." "You must understand," said Cindy hurriedly, "that Yahoomort operated always in the greatest secrecy . . . It preferred that we never knew the e-mails of other list members. Yahoomort alone knew exactly who we all were ?-" "Which was a wise move, wasn't it, as it prevented someone like you, Cindy, from spamming them," sputtered Elkins. "These e-mails are?" said Eloise sharply. Cindy drew a deep breath. "Pbnesbit at msn.com," she said. "I ? I saw her do countless link checks." "And never helped her do them," breathed Elkins. "We have already apprehended Parker," said Eloise. "She was captured shortly after you were." "Indeed?" said Cindy, her eyes widening. "I?I am delighted to hear it!" But she didn't look it. Pip could tell that this news had come as a real blow to her. One of her e-mails was worthless. "Any others?" said Eloise coldly. "Why, yes . . . there was moongirlk at yahoo.com," Cindy said hurriedly. "Kimberly!" "Kimberly's hard drive is dead," said Eloise. "She was caught shortly after you were too. She preferred to re-boot rather than upload, and her hard drive was killed in the struggle." "Took a bit of my soul with her, too," whispered Elkins. Pip saw her indicating the large chunk missing from the cataloguing database. "No -? no more than Hewlett Packard deserved!" said Cindy, a real note of panic in her voice now. "Any more?" said Eloise. "Yes!" said Cindy. "There was Ali at zymurgy.org, -- her ISP is down! Elfundeb at comcast.net -? she specialized in tax law ?- forced countless people to pay horrific levies! Neilward at dircon.com.uk, who was a spy, passed the Moderators useful information from inside the Tower itself!" Pip could tell that, this time, Cindy had struck gold. The watching crowd was all murmuring together. "Neil?" said Eloise, nodding to a FAQer sitting in front of her, who began tapping on her keyboard. "Flying Ford Anglia, from the Mechanimagus Department?" "The very same," said Cindy eagerly. "I believe he used a network of well-placed FAQers, both inside the Tower and out, to collect e- mails ?- " "But Ali and Debbie we have," said Eloise. "Very well, Cindy, if that is all, you will be returned to the FAQ dungeon while we decide ?- " "Not yet!" cried Cindy, looking quite desperate. "Wait, I have more. Porphyria at mindspring.com!" she shouted. "Porphyria Ashenden!" "Porphyria has been excused from cataloguing," said Eloise disdainfully. "She has been vouched for by Steve." "No!" shouted Cindy, straining at the chains that bound her to the chair. "I assure you! Porphyria is a cataloguer!" Steve got to his feet. "I have given evidence on this matter," he said calmly. "Porphyria Ashenden was indeed once a cataloguer. However, she became a webmistress and began coding for us, at great personal cost. She is no more a cataloguer than I am." "Very well, Cindy," said Eloise coldly, "you have been of assistance. I shall review your case. You will return to cataloging in the meantime. . . ." The FAQ list dissolved in a swirl of color, and Cindy found herself facing a swaying mountain of 700 more high-quality messages, each needing several rows for multiple key words and lengthy, detailed descriptions . . . . ********** Cindy From catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk Sun Nov 10 18:39:56 2002 From: catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk (Catherine Coleman) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:39:56 -0000 Subject: Myth and Legend FAQ? Message-ID: Hi, I've just had an enquiry from a newbie, saying that she's got very demoralised about searching through the archives, and is there an FAQ in progress which specifically discusses threads on myths and legends and how they relate to HP. I don't think she's interested in etymology as much as parallels. I don't remember this being mentioned, so I thought I'd throw it out here. Catherine From skelkins at attbi.com Sun Nov 10 19:57:23 2002 From: skelkins at attbi.com (ssk7882) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:57:23 -0000 Subject: Myth and Legend FAQ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, Catherine. A "Mythology and Magical Creatures" FAQ is on the master list of FAQs-to-be-written, but it was not one of the ones that we decided to prioritize when we were trying to figure out how to juggle our time. For some reason, I'd thought that someone had already done a bit of work on that one long ago, but when I went looking through the files, I couldn't find it. Anyway, perhaps when we reach that stage of the project, we should bump Mythology and Magical Creatures up in the queue a bit? Oh. And by the way, cataloguers, the silly person who added an entry for "Fidelius" in the database when there was already a perfectly good "Secret Keeper [including Fidelius Charm]" keyword was me. Sorry about that. I've gone and deleted it now, and done the search and replace on my catalogue. Elkins From pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk Sun Nov 10 22:14:36 2002 From: pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk (bluesqueak) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:14:36 -0000 Subject: Calling All Link Checkers and Coders! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., Porphyria wrote: > Still waiting as of this writing are Universal, Ron, Romantic > Pairings, Pettigrew, McGonagall, the Dursleys, and Magical Devices. > > Thanks all, Porphyria Ok, will take Magical Devices. Pip From elfundeb at comcast.net Sun Nov 10 23:11:59 2002 From: elfundeb at comcast.net (elfundeb) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:11:59 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Calling All Link Checkers and Coders! References: <809CE0F6-F435-11D6-A571-000393465128@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <002801c2890e$92e31be0$3a3b3244@arlngt01.va.comcast.net> Here are the results of the Weasley link check: fn. 3 -- there is no link on message 8324 Text before fn. 11 -- "lead" should be "led" unless there's an alternative English spelling of which I'm unaware fn. 11 -- message 4973 doesn't deal w/ Bill & Charlie fn. 15 -- Club message 1666 is not on topic fn. 23 -- message 4925 link should go to message 4923 message 8779 has no link fn. 26 -- message 4577 has no link fn. 29 -- message 803 link should go to message 805 In the Percy text, the sentence which states "It is his inflexibility and devotion to work that already seems to have accounted for one girlfriend" doesn't appear to make sense. Should it be "the apparent loss of one girlfriend" since the referenced messages relate to the lack of any mention of Penelope at the Yule Ball scene? fn. 37 -- message 1223 link should go to message 1233 -- message 14496 is not on topic Ginny -- the group discussion is attributed to Neil, but was actually done by Ravenclawlady (Melanie) fn. 42 -- message 7992 link should go to the Yahoo Group message, not the Club message I wish I could have just fixed them myself, but I am technologically clueless. Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: Porphyria To: HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Calling All Link Checkers and Coders! Thanks a zillion, Eileen. Here's another for whomever has time, the ginger-colored Weasley Family: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/FAServersStaging/weasley.html Note: this one points to the Ron FAQ and the Romantic Pairings FAQ, which I haven't converted yet, so those links will be broken until I upload the files. Thanks! ~P. On Saturday, November 9, 2002, at 04:47 PM, lucky_kari wrote: > --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., Porphyria wrote: > > Here are a few short FAQs for link-checking for anyone with time: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/FAServersStaging/ > > > > Universal > > Religion > > Neville > > > > Send corrections directly to me. > > ~Porphryia > > I'll do religion. > > Eileen > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ~~~~~~~ "Smell is the most powerful trigger to the memory there is. A certain flower or a whiff of smoke can bring up experiences long forgotten. Books smell... musty and rich. The knowledge gained from a computer is... it has no texture, no context. It's there and then it's gone. If it's to last, then the getting of knowledge should be tangible. It should be, um... smelly." -- Giles, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, "I Robot, You Jane" [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HP4GU-FAQ-unsubscribe at egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ali at zymurgy.org Sun Nov 10 23:21:01 2002 From: Ali at zymurgy.org (Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 23:21:01 -0000 Subject: Calling All Link Checkers and Coders! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., Porphyria wrote: > Thanks to all of you who've volunteered to do a link check. > For those of you who still have time, there's plenty left. If you go here and read the comment field, you can just pick one that says 'link-check me' > : > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-FAQ/files/FAServersStaging/ > > Still waiting as of this writing are Universal, Ron, Romantic Pairings, > Pettigrew, McGonagall, the Dursleys, and Magical Devices. > > Thanks all, Porphyria I'll take the Dursleys Ali (whose computer has behaved today and will sign up for a block when she's read the Dursleys FAQ - honest!) From pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk Sun Nov 10 23:22:55 2002 From: pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk (bluesqueak) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 23:22:55 -0000 Subject: Magical Devices Link Check Message-ID: Wands: Yes, I know, I know, I'm checking Magical Devices, but the first thing I saw when I checked the Wands FAQ link was a reference to the Philopsher's Stone. Dumbledore having a bit of a problem with his false teeth? [grin] Back to Magical Devices: Philosopher's Stone: Yahoo Club Y3221 is NOT about the Philosopher's Stone. Portkey: In the 6th paragraph down the last line reads: "fleer the 'Permanent Things' of the Wizarding World at will." Is 'fleer' a typo? Sirius Black's Motorcycle: e-12/10/00 'Sirius Mortorcycle' thread The link works, but as above 'motorcycle' is mispelled in the link itself. Sorting Hat: 'Y7098' links to Yahoo Club Message 7089. All else works perfectly. Pip From gwendolyngrace at yahoo.com Mon Nov 11 03:01:23 2002 From: gwendolyngrace at yahoo.com (Gwen) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:01:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] a question of being accurate In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021111030123.29734.qmail@web13503.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, all. Catching up on old messages, so sorry if this seems outdated. Regarding Steve's concern about using "Marauders," etc. Actually, I'm wondering if the central intro page to all the FAQs should say something to the effect that many of the terms used within are either unique to HPfGU or else commonly recognized intrafandom shorthand, but that these terms are not necessarily canonical, nor are they univerally accepted among the fandom. Gwen __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 From porphyria at mindspring.com Mon Nov 11 04:20:51 2002 From: porphyria at mindspring.com (Porphyria) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 23:20:51 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Magical Devices Link Check In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pip noted: > Portkey: > In the 6th paragraph down the last line reads: > "fleer the 'Permanent Things' of the Wizarding World at will." > > Is 'fleer' a typo? fleer \Fleer\, [imp. & p. p. Fleered; p. pr. & vb. n. Fleering.] [OE. flerien; cf. Scot. fleyr, Norw. flira to titter, giggle, laugh at nothing, MHG. vlerre, vlarre, a wide wound.] 1. To make a wry face in contempt, or to grin in scorn; to deride; to sneer; to mock; to gibe; as, to fleer and flout. To fleer and scorn at our solemnity. --Shak. 2. To grin with an air of civility; to leer. [Obs.] Grinning and fleering as though they went to a bear baiting. --Latimer. Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, ? 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc. That's a new vocabulary word for me, too. :-) Thanks, everyone, for the link-checks! ~Porphyria ~~~~~~~ "Smell is the most powerful trigger to the memory there is. A certain flower or a whiff of smoke can bring up experiences long forgotten. Books smell... musty and rich. The knowledge gained from a computer is... it has no texture, no context. It's there and then it's gone. If it's to last, then the getting of knowledge should be tangible. It should be, um... smelly." -- Giles, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, "I Robot, You Jane" [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From cindysphinx at comcast.net Mon Nov 11 04:28:59 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 04:28:59 -0000 Subject: a question of being accurate In-Reply-To: <20021111030123.29734.qmail@web13503.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Gwen wrote: > Regarding Steve's concern about using "Marauders," > etc. Actually, I'm wondering if the central intro page > to all the FAQs should say something to the effect > that many of the terms used within are either unique > to HPfGU or else commonly recognized intrafandom > shorthand, but that these terms are not necessarily > canonical, nor are they univerally accepted among the > fandom. Hmmm. I understand the concern, I think, but I was taking a somewhat different conceptual approach to our mission here. I see the FPs as compilations of *discussions* of canon. The FPs really aren't meant to be a compilation of or summary of canon itself -- that is the function of the Lexicon. Because the FPs are compilations of discussions, they will necessarily capture certain ideas, theories, and terminology that do not explicitly exist in canon or the fandom at large. I think that is intuitive. So I don't think we must clarify the fact that we are preparing narratives to direct people to posts that they might find interesting on various subjects and that the narratives or posts might sometimes go outside the four corners of canon. Actually, I think we discussed this briefly last month, IIRC, and the feeling at the time is that we didn't want to generate a master glossary for the FAQs -- a sort of FAQs for the FAQs, if you will. Instead, I think we decided to leave it to the judgment of each editor to decide whether any unusual terminology requires explanation and how best to explain it. Since each editor might handle the issue differently, it is probably best not to make a global statement on the index page. So on balance, I think we needn't clarify that our FP essays may contain terms or theory names that are not strictly canonical or common in the fandom. Cindy From moongirlk at yahoo.com Mon Nov 11 04:32:00 2002 From: moongirlk at yahoo.com (Kimberly) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 04:32:00 -0000 Subject: Calling All Link Checkers and Coders! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "Kimberly" wrote: > --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., Porphyria wrote: > > And Government is ready for a link-check: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU- > FAQ/files/FAServersStaging/government. > > html > > > > Thanks, ~P > I've finished the check on this one, and everything's beauty except for the following: Link #1 - Ministry of Magic and Link #3 - Legislative Branch The last few footnote links (63-68) don't cause the footnotes in question to hop all the way to the top of the screen like the others do, but I think that's just because they're too close to the bottom and that's normal. They do show up when you hit the links anyway, so it's not a problem either way. I am a foolish, oolish girl who once again failed to pick up my CD from my parent's house today, so I'm still without Excel, so I'll just set to work on link-checking the McGonagall FAQ next. This is fun! kimberly From gwendolyngrace at yahoo.com Mon Nov 11 13:15:04 2002 From: gwendolyngrace at yahoo.com (Gwen) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 05:15:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Porphyria's title; the remaining FAQ work In-Reply-To: <55.30eeddcb.2affe974@aol.com> Message-ID: <20021111131504.92039.qmail@web13507.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, all. > >>And I hereby propose that Porphyria be given a > promotion. Um, how > about Supreme Snapologist, Chief Coder, Master > Motivator and > Organizational Overlord? > > SSCCMMOO?? > Needs a bit of work, that one! > > Eloise > Thinking Porphyria would be more of a challenge to > acronymise than Elkins Um... y'all should probably know that Porphyria...well, doctored my original editor's notes on the Snape FAQ. First, she moved them to the end, which is fine, but more importantly, she *removed* two references to herself. The first one was a thank-you for all her hard work on getting the Snape FAQ into shape. But the second was a bullet point on my "What I Learned From Doing the Snape FAQ" list. The list was supposed to include: --Porphyria is a goddess. She took it out; I think it should be put back in. And for further argument: Goodness, Our Dear Disorder Elucidates Snape Scintillatingly. Truly, she did most of the message block distillation, and then turned more than half the lists of answers, sorted by topic, into the essay-like answers: most notably the tangled and sticky "Why did he join/leave the Death Eaters" questions, which I was going crazy over organizing because of all the T-bay in them. Were it not for her dedication, I'd still be pounding my head on my desk over those. All that, and she still finds the time to design lovely backgrounds for the pages.... Suffice to say I feel I've dropped the ball terribly. Perhaps I can divert a little Symposium energy today to glance over an FAQ or two...did I read correctly that McGonagall is still in need of checking? Gwen __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 From eloiseherisson at aol.com Mon Nov 11 13:58:34 2002 From: eloiseherisson at aol.com (eloiseherisson at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:58:34 EST Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Porphyria's title Message-ID: In a message dated 11/11/2002 13:15:54 GMT Standard Time, gwendolyngrace at yahoo.com writes: > > --Porphyria is a goddess. > > She took it out; I think it should be put back in. And > for further argument: > > Goodness, Our Dear Disorder Elucidates Snape > Scintillatingly. > Which is a little more flattering than what I came up with..... I was about to post this, but didn't want to let on I was taking a break! (A girl's got to have lunch!) And I was still tinkering with it. But, oh well, I can always change it later! .................. Cindy: > And I hereby propose that Porphyria be given a promotion. Um, how > about Supreme Snapologist, Chief Coder, Master Motivator and > Organizational Overlord? > Okay - I came up with this in bed last night, right, I wasn't slacking, honest! ;-) >From the qualities that Cindy identified above, I hereby propose that the position to which she is promoted is that of, S.A.C.R.E.D.C.O.W. Snapologist Above Censure; Rouser of Enthusiasm; Demon Coder and Organisational Whiz. This is, of course, ironic, I hasten to add, as Porphyria is anything but a sacred cow in its colloquial sense. It's just, err, the way it worked out. These acronyms take on a life of their own, don't y'know. Just thought I'd better make that clear. ;-) Any case, if we cross a goddess with a sacred cow, we can get a respectable Egyptian deity - Hathor. Goddesses of Ancient Egypt: HATHOR Does that work? I've no idea. Eloise Whose brain has to do silly things to let of steam when it's involved in unwonted serious exercise. And was inspired initially by the end of SSCCM*MOO* and had to get an S in for Snape, hence the slightly unfortunate final form. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From porphyria at mindspring.com Mon Nov 11 14:47:53 2002 From: porphyria at mindspring.com (Porphyria) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:47:53 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Porphyria's title In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8EC0AE6E-F584-11D6-833A-000393465128@mindspring.com> I'm beginning to feel like Gilderoy Lockhart.... _Fixating on Fantastic Posts_ by Porphyria Ashenden _Tinkering with Templates_ by Porphyria Ashenden _Hightailing it with HTML_ by Porphyria Ashenden _Obsessing over Organization_ by Porphyria Ashenden _Preoccupation with the Potions Master_ by Porphyria Ashenden There's your new reading list. :-) Gwen mentioned a bit of judicious editing I did with the Snape FAQ: > she *removed* two > references to herself. The first one was a thank-you > for all her hard work on getting the Snape FAQ into > shape. But the second was a bullet point on my "What I > Learned From Doing the Snape FAQ" list. The list was > supposed to include: > > --Porphyria is a goddess. See, my reasoning was that, since I technically *am* an editor of the document, by all means Editor #2, but still an editor, to the casual observer it would have looked like I was blowing my own horn. "What was Snape's Task at the end of GoF? Well, for starters, I am a wonderful human being, and secondly, he's probably going back to spy on Lord Voldemort..." See what I mean? ;-) I thought having my name in there as an editor was proof enough that I did some work. Having said that, I do like these acronyms. > > Goodness, Our Dear Disorder Elucidates Snape > > Scintillatingly. By this definition Gwen and I are co-GODDESSs. And this from Eloise: > S.A.C.R.E.D.C.O.W. > > Snapologist Above Censure; Rouser of Enthusiasm; Demon Coder and > Organisational Whiz. I like it! I'm enjoying the deification, especially witty to apply an embittered agnostic like myself. I will also embrace the Cow-ness, seeing as my real name means "heifer" in Hebrew, I guess it's fitting enough. And Hathor seems cool, although I'm more of a Bastet girl in real life. ~Grateful!Porphyria, who will accept any title other than Mugwump, since she has some weird associations with that word thanks to William Burroughs p.s. I think the Romantic Pairings FP is the only one not claimed for a link-check [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk Mon Nov 11 15:51:40 2002 From: pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk (bluesqueak) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:51:40 -0000 Subject: Porphyria's title In-Reply-To: <8EC0AE6E-F584-11D6-833A-000393465128@mindspring.com> Message-ID: > ~Grateful!Porphyria, who will accept any title other than Mugwump, since > she has some weird associations with that word thanks to William Burroughs > > p.s. I think the Romantic Pairings FP is the only one not claimed for a > link-check > Well, I was hoping to avoid it, since SHIPs tend to evoke a high level of sea-sickness in me. Admittedly, I did advance a LOLLIPOPS variation once, but that claimed that Snape and Lily were Just Good Friends.[grin] If no one has claimed it by 6pm GMT, I'll take it. Pip From moongirlk at yahoo.com Mon Nov 11 16:14:54 2002 From: moongirlk at yahoo.com (Kimberly) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:14:54 -0000 Subject: McGonagall FAQ Message-ID: I checked McGonagall, and every link was perfect - Go Hathor! I'll take on Romantic Pairings if it bugs too much, and I'll even refrain from adding my own arguments (but it'll be hard!). Kimberly From s_ings at yahoo.com Mon Nov 11 16:22:02 2002 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:22:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: Universal FAQ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021111162202.21759.qmail@web41115.mail.yahoo.com> Have finished checking the Universal FAQ and found only one problem. In footnote #33 the link harrypotteranonymous at yahoogroups.com gives me a 404 Missing File Error message. And I had way too much fun remembering way back when a lot of these messages were posted. :) Sheryll ===== "We need to be united and strong. We'll have losses and scares, sure. And you'll be there for each other, helping each other through the bad times." blpurdom - Harry Potter and the Psychic Serpent, Chapter 26 ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca From pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk Mon Nov 11 16:29:37 2002 From: pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk (bluesqueak) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:29:37 -0000 Subject: McGonagall FAQ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "Kimberly" wrote: > I checked McGonagall, and every link was perfect - Go Hathor! > > I'll take on Romantic Pairings if it bugs too much, and I'll even > refrain from adding my own arguments (but it'll be hard!). > > Kimberly Ooh, yes please, take it with my blessings. I'll use the 'free' time to do some lovely, lovely cataloguing instead. Pip From gwendolyngrace at yahoo.com Mon Nov 11 17:18:04 2002 From: gwendolyngrace at yahoo.com (Gwen) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:18:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Romantic FAQ Message-ID: <20021111171804.32169.qmail@web13502.mail.yahoo.com> Isn't it romantic? See what guilt can do--she spent the morning here. Isn't it romantic? She read the F.A.Q., and checked links without fear. Two tiny little problems were the most she found. Two questions for the FAQ list, if you're all around. Isn't it romantic? Here is her report; there isn't much to say. Isn't it romantic? Now it's in your court, Porphyria, I pray. Too many shipping links may drive me 'round the bend, but it's fine, my friends: Isn't this romance? There are many links. Most of them work correctly. The notable exception is that the OT-Chatter links at the end of the FAQ have the wrong group name on them, so they link to a group that does not exist. They should link to "HPFGU-OTChatter" instead of "HPforGrownups-OTChatter" and they should work fine. One other correction: Harry and Fleur is the only "Less Touted Pairing" that is not in bold. Two other suggestions: 1. Should there be some brief explanation as to why there are messages linked in the PoU group? It might be beneficial to explain that PoU is not any part of HPfGU, but that many members are on that list and that it discusses canon a lot... otherwise, someone might be confused as to why they are being directed to a fanfic list, or worse, be angry because they're unaware it's a fanfic list and didn't want to be directed there, etc. 2. This is NOT something to do right now, but a suggestion for future updates to the FAQ's, especially once we have the complete catalogue done. This FAQ lists messages by location and in chronological order, but gives no hint of what the messages actually discuss. It's an intimidating list because there are many, many links. I shudder to think what it would look like if Penny'd done the romance FAQ at the 35,000 message mark, for example. It might be helpful on a revision to group the messages by loose topic first (i.e., general, SHIP, R/H vs. H/H, Yule Ball argument, etc.) so that folks who want to indulge in further reading don't have to wade into piles of posts with no clue what thread they're accessing. But that's not for now; that's for later. The PoU thing we might want to do now. The bold thing and the OTChatter thing we really must do now. Otherwise, looks good to go. Gwen Gwen __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 From cindysphinx at comcast.net Mon Nov 11 17:32:18 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:32:18 -0000 Subject: Romantic FAQ In-Reply-To: <20021111171804.32169.qmail@web13502.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Gwen asked: > 1. Should there be some brief explanation as to why > there are messages linked in the PoU group? Maybe drop a footnote saying that Paradigm of Uncertainty is not a sister list of HPfGU but does contain pertinent discussion of romantic pairings of canon characters? >This FAQ > lists messages by location and in chronological order, > but gives no hint of what the messages actually > discuss. Yes, that's something we'll probably want to take care of when we get to the phase of the project where we update the older FPs. Cindy From cindysphinx at comcast.net Tue Nov 12 19:18:33 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:18:33 -0000 Subject: The DISHWASHER Takes The Lead! Message-ID: I think I have the champion for Message That Takes The Most Key Words To Catalogue: Pip's Spying Game, Message 39662. Warrior ethic Misdirection Mercy Dumbledore Lupin Snape Shrieking Shack Pettigrew Black Harry Ron Hermione Werewolf Fudge Expelliarmus Animagus Life Debt Mystery Redemption Subversion Vengeance Something for everyone, don't you think? Cindy -- who printed out the message and made notes, which made it much easier to handle, and who now gets the DISHWASHER and will have a spin in it the next time it resurfaces From skelkins at attbi.com Tue Nov 12 19:44:41 2002 From: skelkins at attbi.com (ssk7882) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:44:41 -0000 Subject: PORPHYRIA'D In-Reply-To: <8EC0AE6E-F584-11D6-833A-000393465128@mindspring.com> Message-ID: Hathor wrote: > ~Grateful!Porphyria, who will accept any title other than Mugwump, > since she has some weird associations with that word thanks to > William Burroughs > > p.s. I think the Romantic Pairings FP is the only one not claimed > for a link-check AAUUGGHH! BAD Place, Porphyria! BAD Place! NOT a good juxtaposition at all. As for titles, though, I recommend that we adopt a new term whenever a project has benefitted tremendously by the efforts of a remarkably diligent person. We can say that said project has been P.O.R.P.H.Y.R.I.A.'D: "Productive, Organized, Reliable: Porphyria Has Yielded Results Impressively Ahead of Deadline" Elkins From eloiseherisson at aol.com Wed Nov 13 06:47:16 2002 From: eloiseherisson at aol.com (eloiseherisson at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 01:47:16 EST Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: PORPHYRIA'D Message-ID: <172.117dc1e0.2b034f74@aol.com> In a message dated 12/11/2002 19:47:03 GMT Standard Time, skelkins at attbi.com writes: > As for titles, though, I recommend that we adopt a new term whenever > a project has benefitted tremendously by the efforts of a remarkably > diligent person. > > We can say that said project has been P.O.R.P.H.Y.R.I.A.'D: > > "Productive, Organized, Reliable: Porphyria Has Yielded Results > Impressively Ahead of Deadline" > > Now that is the work of a craftsman. I take my hat off to you. Just shows you what's in a name: that's why Porphyria's Porphyria, whereas I am merely, Enlessly Late Or Inevitably Slow Eloise. It also explains our beloved leader: Captain Indomitable, Never Daunted: You Command. (The use of a screen name that contains two 'Y's and an 'X' , for which nothing springs to mind except unsuitable words like xylophone, xenophobe or one of Porphyria's cats, also says something, I feel!) Eloise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From dicentra at xmission.com Wed Nov 13 15:55:47 2002 From: dicentra at xmission.com (dicentra63) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:55:47 -0000 Subject: PORPHYRIA'D In-Reply-To: <172.117dc1e0.2b034f74@aol.com> Message-ID: --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., eloiseherisson at a... wrote: > In a message dated 12/11/2002 19:47:03 GMT Standard Time, skelkins at a... > > > > We can say that said project has been P.O.R.P.H.Y.R.I.A.'D: > > > > "Productive, Organized, Reliable: Porphyria Has Yielded Results > > Impressively Ahead of Deadline" > > > > > > Now that is the work of a craftsman. > I take my hat off to you. > > Just shows you what's in a name: that's why Porphyria's Porphyria, whereas I > am merely, > Enlessly Late Or Inevitably Slow Eloise. > > It also explains our beloved leader: > > Captain Indomitable, Never Daunted: You Command. > Are we going to have to create an Inish Alley--FAQ? I say yes!!!! --Dicey, off to do it From cindysphinx at comcast.net Wed Nov 13 16:22:59 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:22:59 -0000 Subject: PORPHYRIA'D In-Reply-To: <172.117dc1e0.2b034f74@aol.com> Message-ID: Elkins suggested: > We can say that said project has been P.O.R.P.H.Y.R.I.A.'D: > > "Productive, Organized, Reliable: Porphyria Has Yielded Results > Impressively Ahead of Deadline" Eloise added: > Endlessly Late Or Inevitably Slow Eloise. Nah, that just isn't right, now is it? Let me propose "Effortless Loyalty Originates In Sensational Eloise." Yes, that seems to work just fine. ;-) Cindy -- challenging anyone to acronymize "Lexicon Steve" From gwendolyngrace at yahoo.com Wed Nov 13 17:19:47 2002 From: gwendolyngrace at yahoo.com (Gwen) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:19:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: acronymizing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021113171947.28738.qmail@web13504.mail.yahoo.com> --- "Cindy C." wrote: > > Cindy -- challenging anyone to acronymize "Lexicon > Steve" Acronymize... is that like economize? Can't be, because I had to add two words to make this work: L.E.X.I.C.O.N. S.T.E.V.E. K.N.O.W.S. C.A.N.O.N. Lest Everyone Xerox (Illegally) Canon, Overachieving, Non-expendable Steve "The Encyclopedia" Vanderark Effuses Kosher Notes Of Wisdom, Stockpiling Citations And Never Omitting Nothing. Improvements are glady accepted. This doesn't really go far enough. It's hard to find a really positive characteristic that is also an "N" word. Gwen (Goofy When Extremely Nackered) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 From gwendolyngrace at yahoo.com Wed Nov 13 17:41:22 2002 From: gwendolyngrace at yahoo.com (Gwen) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:41:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: acronymizing: help! I can't stop.... In-Reply-To: <20021113171947.28738.qmail@web13504.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20021113174122.14020.qmail@web13503.mail.yahoo.com> I realized that while this is true: > Gwen (Goofy When Extremely Nackered) It's not particularly accurate. Actually I'm more in a tizzy because I'll be going down to the site visit in less than 48 hours and seeing the movie in about 54 hours. So I revise my acronym. It's addictive, by the way. G.W.E.N.D.O.L.Y.N. G.R.A.C.E. Giddy with excitement, nevertheless dismayed over last year's, naturally, Gwen rests assured "Chamber" excels. Gwen __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 From cindysphinx at comcast.net Wed Nov 13 17:54:56 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:54:56 -0000 Subject: How Stupid Is Voldemort? Marina Knows Message-ID: Oh, Marina does *not* suffer Evil Overlord Fools gladly. No, no, no. Check out Message Number 39710: >Ah. I see. Voldemort was actually intelligent and realistic, and >knew that Harry might very well escape, so instead of intelligently >and realistically wringing the kid's neck while he's tied up, >Smart!Voldy *pretends* to be stupid and overconfident, bending over >backwards to give Harry every possible opportunity to escape, until >he finally does. "I don't want him to think I'm smart, in case he >escapes, so I'll pretend I'm stupid by letting him escape." Is there >any stupid paint left in that bucket? Cindy -- hoping never, ever to get hit by one of Marina's Paint Balls From pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk Wed Nov 13 18:22:31 2002 From: pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk (bluesqueak) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:22:31 -0000 Subject: How Stupid Is Voldemort? Marina Knows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "Cindy C." wrote: > Oh, Marina does *not* suffer Evil Overlord Fools gladly. No, no, > no. Check out Message Number 39710: > > > >Ah. I see. Voldemort was actually intelligent and realistic, and > >knew that Harry might very well escape, so instead of intelligently > >and realistically wringing the kid's neck while he's tied up, > >Smart!Voldy *pretends* to be stupid and overconfident, bending over > >backwards to give Harry every possible opportunity to escape, until > >he finally does. "I don't want him to think I'm smart, in case he > >escapes, so I'll pretend I'm stupid by letting him escape." Is there > >any stupid paint left in that bucket? > > Cindy -- hoping never, ever to get hit by one of Marina's Paint Balls Ah, yes, I remember that one. That was the one that eventually provoked one of my 4000 word long thesis style replies explaining in incredible detail why Voldemort was not stupid in the Graveyard. One of these days I'll learn to send a post which says something like 'He just isn't, ok?' Luckily, the reply starts with 40... rather than 39..., so Cindy is not going to find out if it beats DISHWASHER as requiring the most keywords. (40044, to be exact). Voldemort, Harry, Malfoy, Pettigrew, AK, DE's, Duelling, Graveyard [which may not be a keyword yet]and Priori Incantantum come to mind, and probably more. Have we got one for Shield Spells yet? Pip From eloiseherisson at aol.com Wed Nov 13 20:19:06 2002 From: eloiseherisson at aol.com (eloiseherisson at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:19:06 EST Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: acronymizing: help! I can't stop.... Message-ID: <31.302821b7.2b040dba@aol.com> Gwen: > It's addictive, by the way. It is, isn't it? Dicey: >Are we going to have to create an Inish Alley--FAQ? >I say yes!!!! >--Dicey, off to do it Well, of course, Dicey, patron saint of Luddites and technophobes, must have her own acronym, mustn't she? Dicey's Incredible Cleverness Expunges Nervous Technical Rookies' Anxieties. Eloise Admiring Gwen's handiwork and thanking Cindy for her kind reworking! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From lucky_kari at yahoo.ca Wed Nov 13 20:47:48 2002 From: lucky_kari at yahoo.ca (lucky_kari) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:47:48 -0000 Subject: acronymizing: help! I can't stop.... In-Reply-To: <31.302821b7.2b040dba@aol.com> Message-ID: E.I.L.E.E.N. Endlessly In Love with Every Exciting Nonentity That explains a lot. Eileen, who blames Cindy for the Rookwood crush --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., eloiseherisson at a... wrote: > Gwen: > > It's addictive, by the way. > > It is, isn't it? > > Dicey: > > >Are we going to have to create an Inish Alley--FAQ? > >I say yes!!!! > >--Dicey, off to do it > > Well, of course, Dicey, patron saint of Luddites and technophobes, must have > her own acronym, mustn't she? > > Dicey's Incredible Cleverness Expunges Nervous Technical Rookies' Anxieties. > > Eloise > Admiring Gwen's handiwork and thanking Cindy for her kind reworking! > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From eloiseherisson at aol.com Wed Nov 13 21:51:26 2002 From: eloiseherisson at aol.com (eloiseherisson at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:51:26 EST Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: acronymizing: help! I can't stop.... Message-ID: <19d.be61e73.2b04235e@aol.com> > Eileen, who blames Cindy for the Rookwood crush > > You have a crush on....*Rookwood*? Did I miss that in the cataloguing or haven't I got there yet? It must be in my block, I think. Eloise (Wearing her B.A.B.E.M.E.I.S.T.E.R. T-shirt.) Who's been meaning for some time to amend the 'Sexiness' entry in the Topic Terms database to read, 'and Crouch Jr sexier still.' I take it it *was* you, Eileen, who put in the bit about Crouch Sr? Or was that Cindy? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From lucky_kari at yahoo.ca Wed Nov 13 22:45:51 2002 From: lucky_kari at yahoo.ca (lucky_kari) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:45:51 -0000 Subject: acronymizing: help! I can't stop.... In-Reply-To: <19d.be61e73.2b04235e@aol.com> Message-ID: --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., eloiseherisson at a... wrote: > > > Eileen, who blames Cindy for the Rookwood crush > > > > > > You have a crush on....*Rookwood*? > Did I miss that in the cataloguing or haven't I got there yet? > It must be in my block, I think. Time to confess about that one. I feel pretty awful about this and Cindy never called me on it. Message 45483 ___________________________________________________ "You are disturbed! Moody belongs with Hermione." "Right," says Cindy, a little disappointed. "So, what about Rookwood the dead sexy Ravenclaw?" "Yellow Flag!" scream Veronica and Abigail together. "You're just making up stuff about Rookwood. Where does canon say he was dead sexy?" asks Veronica. "Or a Ravenclaw?" asks Abigail." ___________________________________________________ Now, I put that phrase in Cindy's mouth b/c I thought it'd be less boring than having me say, "Moody belongs with Hermione. Therefore, let's move on in discussing Rookwood the dead sexy Ravenclaw." So, if that doesn't represent your views on the matter, Cindy, I humbly beg your forgiveness, but all your gushing posts about Rookwood did have me wondering, and got me to the point where I have a very definite picture of Rookwood. What woman wouldn't fall for "Augustus Rookwood of the Department of Mysteries?" Rookwood. Augustus Rookwood. I wrote: "Augustus Rookwood is exciting. He's not like the other Death Eaters. He's got that Death Eater feeling, but he's also got that Ministry feeling. A deadly combination." > Eloise > (Wearing her B.A.B.E.M.E.I.S.T.E.R. T-shirt.) > Who's been meaning for some time to amend the 'Sexiness' entry in the Topic > Terms database to read, 'and Crouch Jr sexier still.' I take it it *was* you, > Eileen, who put in the bit about Crouch Sr? Or was that Cindy? Yes, that was me. And don't you dare change it! Of course, in the interests of peace, we could change it to ambiguously read "Crouch." Eileen From cindysphinx at comcast.net Wed Nov 13 23:33:27 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:33:27 -0000 Subject: Rookwood 4 Eva (WAS acronymizing: help! I can't stop....) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Eileen: > Time to confess about that one. I feel pretty awful about this and > Cindy never called me on it. Message 45483 > So, if that doesn't represent your views on the matter, Cindy, I > humbly beg your forgiveness, but all your gushing posts about >Rookwood did have me wondering, and got me to the point where I >have a very definite picture of Rookwood. What woman wouldn't fall >for "Augustus Rookwood of the Department of Mysteries?" Oh, no apology needed, as I do think Rookwood is Dead Sexy. I have his tattoo on my arm for good reason. I mean, Augustus Rookwood has it *all.* He has a dead sexy name. He outfoxed the Ministry until Karkaroff ratted him out, so he's cagey. He was the head of the Department of Mysteries, so he's powerful. The smart money says he doesn't wear lime green suits like Fudge, so he's a snappy dresser. And he's likely spent quite a long time in Azkaban, so he desperately needs the love of a good woman. Redemption? Rookwood doesn't need no stinkin' redemption. Nah, I think he's like Mrs. Lestrange -- Evil To The Core and Proud Of It. ::swoon:: All I need is an assist from Elkins to make this thing work. I need someone to comb the text, reading *way* too much into it of course, looking for suggestive language. You know, some flared nostrils like the graveyard, some proof that someone, somewhere is about to be violated. That sort of thing. ;-) Cindy -- who will not hand out Rookwood T-shirts, but could be talked into handing out Rookwood thongs From porphyria at mindspring.com Thu Nov 14 00:47:24 2002 From: porphyria at mindspring.com (porphyria at mindspring.com) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:47:24 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Rookwood 4 Eva; hitting send; Snape FP Message-ID: If it's any consolation, I think a guy named Augustus Rookwood who works for the Department of Mysteries and spies for the bad guys must be dead sexy too. And I agree that with a name like Rookwood, he *must be a Ravenclaw.* I like to think he sold his soul for Dark Knowledge.... Man, I went to post today for the first time in a month and I *screwed it up.* Be careful of hitting "enter" while using webview; I thought it would just put in a lousy line break, but no, it sent my post. :-P Oh, and I've made yet even more fixes to the Snape FAQ, basically organizing the table of contents and renaming and consolidating some of the questions so it reads more clearly and less redundantly. Nearly all the same text it there, but just put in more logical places. Let me know if it looks better than it did. It's in the staging server with all the others. ~Porphyria, who also wants to congratulate everyone for all these clever acronyms From editor at texas.net Thu Nov 14 02:40:15 2002 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:40:15 -0600 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Rookwood 4 Eva (WAS acronymizing: help! I can't stop....) References: Message-ID: <019601c28b87$2a4361a0$ad05a6d8@texas.net> > Cindy -- who will not hand out Rookwood T-shirts, but could be > talked into handing out Rookwood thongs You guys have *got* to take a break. I mean, you *do* have a couple of months to go, at the very least, before book 5 is out. As a lousy acronymizer myself, I *defy* anyone to make anything out of Amandageist or Premier Snapologist. I won't list anything else that I've been called.... ~Amanda, off to pencil "thongs" onto the list of things I don't wear as a public service From cindysphinx at comcast.net Thu Nov 14 10:36:19 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:36:19 -0000 Subject: They're . . . They're *Beautiful!* Message-ID: Hi, all, I have the *best* news! As you may know, the FA server where the new FPs were to be located has been down for a while. Despite heroic efforts by John, the server is still down, which meant that we could not make the move. Fortunately, Steve agreed to allow us to put the new FPs onto his server, replacing the old FAQs that were there. He did so last night, and so you can see the FPs at: http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/faq/ We'll move over to the new location as soon as the FA server is back up. I'll check the links this morning. Elkins, can you revise the draft ADMIN ASAP to delete the bit about the move? Also, can you change Debbie's name to Debbie AKA delfundeb? Then you may fire when ready. Cindy -- chilling the bubbly From lupinesque at yahoo.com Thu Nov 14 11:01:24 2002 From: lupinesque at yahoo.com (Amy Z) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 03:01:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: hitting send In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021114110124.91590.qmail@web20306.mail.yahoo.com> P.O.R.P.H.R.I.A. warned: > Man, I went to post today for the first time in a > month and I *screwed it up.* > Be careful of hitting "enter" while using webview; I > thought it would just put > in a lousy line break, but no, it sent my post. :-P Yikes! It is NOT supposed to do that. I've composed many a post on webview and am quite sure I was allowed to put in line breaks. An evil plot by Yahoomort to make us look like idiots? Amy who's been afraid to post these past couple of days because she can't think of a clever acronym to sign off with, even without the Z . . . All Moony'd, Yes? Admits to Meager Yndexing? A Moronic Yowp? ===== In fall their brightened leaves, released, fly down the wind, and we are pleased to walk on radiance, amazed. O light come down to earth, be praised. --Wendell Berry, "Great Trees" __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com From cindysphinx at comcast.net Thu Nov 14 12:28:25 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:28:25 -0000 Subject: Irony of Ironies Message-ID: Hi, again. I checked the links, and guess which one doesn't work? *Snape.* Gah! Steve, Porphyria, any ideas? Cindy From cindysphinx at comcast.net Thu Nov 14 12:45:05 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:45:05 -0000 Subject: hitting send In-Reply-To: <20021114110124.91590.qmail@web20306.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Amy > who's been afraid to post these past couple of days > because she can't think of a clever acronym to sign > off with, even without the Z . . . All Moony'd, Yes? > Admits to Meager Yndexing? A Moronic Yowp? How about: Advocate for "Moony isn't Yellow-bellied;" a Zealot Cindy From gwendolyngrace at yahoo.com Thu Nov 14 15:37:33 2002 From: gwendolyngrace at yahoo.com (Gwen) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 07:37:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Snape FP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021114153733.70192.qmail@web13507.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, there! Don't feel bad, Cindy, that the Snape link isn't working, because I have comments on the new organization! I was wondering whether someone was going to ask about the organization... I agree there didn't seem to be any particular order to the questions, except for one thing. My thought in putting the Task and the Lily questions first is that those seem overwhelmingly to be the Big Questions. People ask about them more often than other questions, as evidenced by the length of their discussions. At first I thought that Past, Present, Future made sense--but then I thought that I wanted to suggest we move "Snape's Task" to the future. Let's face it, Porphyria, even though *WE* are enlightened and realize that it has to do with spying, there is enough debate on the point to suggest that it's far from a given that it's a spy game. I wouldn't want anyone to accuse us of bias... Oh. Hi, everyone... This? Behind my back? ... Oh, nothing.... Anyway. But then I thought, "Well, if we move it to future, it's *way* down on the list of questions..." So I thought, reverse it. Snape's Future Snape's Present Snape's Past But that of course puts Lily in the same position--almost last on the list. Furthermore, I think that the prank question might make more sense vis-a-vis the other questions about his relationship with Sirius and Remus. And then I realised that we specifically note that he might be going back to spy in the question, so connecting it to spying would be okay.... Oy. It's a house of cards. There's so much overlap. How about we look at it in terms of meta-questions and minor questions? What I mean is, Task, Lily, Vampire, Teaching, and comparison to the Marauders (or Prank) seem to be the major focal points in one way or another for any Snape-related question. What about organizing around those aspects? Like this? Snape the Spy: Task Voldemort's suspicion (inc. Quirrell) Voldmort's trust Join DE's Leave DE's Sudden Movement Snape the Man: Lily Love Vampire/other Will he die? Snape the Teacher: Why Teach Why HoH Good Teacher DADA Harry/Gryffs (no, these are NOT ship /'s) Draco/Lucius Snape the Student: Prank Shrieking Shack Marauders Map Sirius vs. Snape Sirius questions (Animagus and innocence) Does that make more sense? No matter which way we slice it, the questions and categories overlap. But I think this one at least gets the Big ideas out there early on. "Snape the Student" is only because his relationships with Lupin and Black all stem from their schooldays (though Lily would too), so it made sense. It could as easily be "Snape the Outsider" or "Snape the Snoop" but Student seemed the least judgmental. Gwen __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com From gwendolyngrace at yahoo.com Thu Nov 14 15:55:34 2002 From: gwendolyngrace at yahoo.com (Gwen) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 07:55:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Snape FP - One more thing.... In-Reply-To: <20021114153733.70192.qmail@web13507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20021114155534.15104.qmail@web13506.mail.yahoo.com> I may just be missing it on a quick skim, but somewhere along the way, did we lose the discussion about the look exchanged between Harry and Snape at the end of GoF? I know there were posts about it, and I thought we had it in there as part of the Harry discussion.... but maybe I'm wrong. If we lost it, do we (gulp) want to throw it in real quick? If we use Porphyria's organization, it would go in "Future" I think. If mine, I'd vote for "Snape the Man"--unless we just want to slap it in as part of the answer regarding Harry (or in the miscellany) and let it go at that. Gwen __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com From cindysphinx at comcast.net Thu Nov 14 16:14:04 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:14:04 -0000 Subject: Snape FP - One more thing.... In-Reply-To: <20021114155534.15104.qmail@web13506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Gwen asked: > I may just be missing it on a quick skim, but > somewhere along the way, did we lose the discussion > about the look exchanged between Harry and Snape at > the end of GoF? > > I know there were posts about it, and I thought we had > it in there as part of the Harry discussion.... but > maybe I'm wrong. > > If we lost it, do we (gulp) want to throw it in real > quick? If we use Porphyria's organization, it would go > in "Future" I think. If mine, I'd vote for "Snape the > Man"--unless we just want to slap it in as part of the > answer regarding Harry (or in the miscellany) and let > it go at that. Just a quick update on the Snape situation. Steve and I are trying to get the existing Snape FP uploaded. Once that is done, the FPs will be ready for viewing and the ADMIN can go out. So I'm thinking this might be a somewhat awkward time to do substantive revisions on the document -- we might even wind up making some mistakes in our haste. Can we hold these revisions, get Snape up so he's not holding up the whole show, and then consider whether further edits and revisions are warranted thereafter? Cindy From porphyria at mindspring.com Thu Nov 14 16:21:58 2002 From: porphyria at mindspring.com (Porphyria) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:21:58 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Snape FP In-Reply-To: <20021114153733.70192.qmail@web13507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <32F29F80-F7ED-11D6-833A-000393465128@mindspring.com> Gwen wrote: > I was wondering whether someone was going to ask about > the organization... Clearly, this should have been done a lot earlier. I spent until 5am Tuesday night getting this organized for its debut. I think that the advantage of having *some* organization is that people (who aren't entirely stupid) can scan the TOC for their topic without needing the most frequent to be the very top. > My thought in putting the Task and the Lily questions > first is that those seem overwhelmingly to be the Big > Questions. And they are still both very near the top. > At first I thought that Past, Present, Future made > sense--but then I thought that I wanted to suggest we > move "Snape's Task" to the future. I don't understand why. As far as we know, Snape's Task took place during the last week of GoF (spying or not) and is perhaps even over and done with. If the thing concerned something that happened during the four books, I put it in present (even though as with the Sirius/Map discussion of course it overlapped with the past). If you think I'm giving too much prejudice to the Spying theory, I can change the header above it to "Current Enigmas" or "Popular Enigmas" or something without spying in it. Naturally no matter what we do, there will be overlap and some people will have to (gasp) scroll half a page to find what they want. It's much better than what it was. Gwen suggests: > How about we look at it in terms of meta-questions and > minor questions? What I mean is, Task, Lily, Vampire, > Teaching, and comparison to the Marauders (or Prank) > seem to be the major focal points in one way or > another for any Snape-related question. What about > organizing around those aspects? > > Like this? > > Snape the Spy: > Task > Voldemort's suspicion (inc. Quirrell) > Voldmort's trust > Join DE's > Leave DE's > Sudden Movement > > Snape the Man: > Lily > Love > Vampire/other > Will he die? > > Snape the Teacher: > Why Teach > Why HoH > Good Teacher > DADA > Harry/Gryffs (no, these are NOT ship /'s) > Draco/Lucius > > Snape the Student: > Prank > Shrieking Shack > Marauders Map > Sirius vs. Snape > Sirius questions (Animagus and innocence) This can work. I'd like to hear what others think too, since it takes me a while to cut-and-paste this stuff around and I don't have time before it goes live. Ah, Cindy has just posted to this effect. Yes, we will consider another organization, but I'd like to ponder it and get feedback from any others of you with opinions since this won't take effect immediately. > I may just be missing it on a quick skim, but > somewhere along the way, did we lose the discussion > about the look exchanged between Harry and Snape at > the end of GoF? You never asked that that be put in the regular discussion, and we never really culled posts about it from the excerpts. There is a paragraph (that you wrote) about it under miscellaneous. We could move it at some point, but we don't have an expanded discussion or link number or anything. Amanda sent me some great supplementary material on Snape as Harry's father figure. Tell you what, when I get some time to do a revision (which might be after we're done cataloguing) I can put in a whole section on Snape's relationship with Harry and cover both. Then we'll have to change the TOC again. :-) JustGladItGoesLiveTodayAlready!Porphyria [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From gwendolyngrace at yahoo.com Thu Nov 14 16:30:07 2002 From: gwendolyngrace at yahoo.com (Gwen) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:30:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Snape FP In-Reply-To: <32F29F80-F7ED-11D6-833A-000393465128@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <20021114163007.80194.qmail@web13507.mail.yahoo.com> Coolness. Yeah, I know it was late in the game, and I'm not saying that chronologic is bad, because it certainly works that way. I honestly expected someone to ask about the order, but when no one did, I figured everyone was okay with it. But once you open that door.... Sigh. There are just a lot of possibilities, is all. I was for a while thinking about organizing it via relationships: Snape and Voldemort Snape and Dumbledore Snape and Lily Snape and Harry Snape and MWPP Snape and Draco Etc. That got messy *real* quick. But yes, by all means, let's just get it *up* and then worry about revisions when there's new material. Gwen (who actually got out Post-it notes, wrote each question on its own note, and was sticking them together to make various groupings before writing back earlier) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com From cindysphinx at comcast.net Thu Nov 14 17:19:22 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:19:22 -0000 Subject: Champagne Corks Are Pinging Off The Walls! Message-ID: Hi, all, Steve managed to get that Snape FP to upload, and so the FPs are ready for viewing. The best way to put it, I think, is to say that Steve PORPHYRIA'D them real good. ;-) Now that this phase of our work is complete, I think an expression of gratitude is in order. Many of you worked very hard on writing, message review, proofing, link checking, coding and many other things to get our FPs ready, right on schedule. I realize how much work all of that was, I really do. In fact, I think it is high time that I handed out a bonus as a reward for all of that outstanding work. Normally, I would provide you all with the Gift That Keeps On Giving -- cold hard cash. But that would be *tacky,* don't you think? That sort of thing is simply not done in our little community, is it? I mean, I wouldn't want to *insult* you or anything. No, instead I will opt for something everyone can use, something to call your very own, something to make your lives just that much more enjoyable. Therefore, allow me to present each and every one of you with your bonus: ******** ROASTED POTATOES WITH GARLIC AND HERBS from "Vegetarian Cooking for Everyone" by Deborah Madison 1.5 pounds of Yellow or Red new potatoes 1 entire head fresh, firm garlic cloves, separated but *unpeeled* 2 Tablespoons olive oil 4 Teaspoons chopped rosemary or sage 2 bay leaves 4 thyme sprigs Salt and freshly milled pepper Scrub the potatoes well, then put them in a bowl of water with a few tablespoons salt and let stand for 15 minutes. Meanwhile, preheat oven to 400 and lightly oil a shallow baking dish. Drain the potatoes and pat dry with a paper towel. Toss them with the garlic, oil, and herbs, then season with salt and pepper. Arrange them in the prepared dish and bake, uncovered, until the potatoes are tender when pierced with a knife, 25-40 minutes, depending on their size. Turn them several times while they are cooking so that they brown evenly. Eat them with the softened garlic cloves squeezed out of their paper cases. Serves 4-6 *Cindy's Modifications for the Cheap or Lazy Cook* Save money by buying large red potatoes and cutting them up. Soaking the potatoes is optional, IMHO Use dried herbs, but cut the amount by half. Bay leaves are unimportant. Double the garlic if you're into that Turn the potatoes or not; makes no difference ********** Cindy -- who thinks roasted garlic is the best gift of all From eloiseherisson at aol.com Thu Nov 14 19:27:00 2002 From: eloiseherisson at aol.com (eloiseherisson at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:27:00 EST Subject: Snape FP Message-ID: <86.2345af5a.2b055304@aol.com> I'm sorry, Porphyria, but there's something I really think you ought to change...;-) Since I last looked at the Snape FP, an acknowledgement to me seems to have crept in at the bottom which is, IMHO, totally unwarranted. Whilst it's terribly flattering to have my name associated with this magnificent *piece de resistance* I can see no justification for it whatsoever. In fact, I'm so taken aback, that I've just checked six times to make sure I'm not hallucinating. I haven't hit the Lagavulin yet, so it can't be that. ;-) Eloise Who thinks that anyone who find this FP will know that they've hit gold, whether the organisation is tinkered with later or not. From skelkins at attbi.com Thu Nov 14 22:09:06 2002 From: skelkins at attbi.com (ssk7882) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:09:06 -0000 Subject: They're . . . They're *Beautiful!* In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Cindy: > Elkins, can you revise the draft ADMIN ASAP to delete the bit about > the move? Also, can you change Debbie's name to Debbie AKA > delfundeb? Then you may fire when ready. I thought that I caught a glimpse of the whites of their eyes. So I fired. Elkins, off now to take her ailing and ancient dog to the vet (yet another "sandbag piled on top of the sea walls" endeavor, alas, and this one, she fears, very likely futile) From editor at texas.net Fri Nov 15 02:03:12 2002 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:03:12 -0600 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Snape FP References: <20021114153733.70192.qmail@web13507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00a301c28c4b$27bb0900$7205a6d8@texas.net> On Gwen's organizational comments--I apologize to everyone if this is answered later down my email stack--I have a ferocious sinus headache and I'm not sure how long I care to sit up and stare at the computer. A point on the FAQ organization....there are any number of valid ways to organize the essay. The current organization works pretty well; others would too. But don't forget, this is a *cyber-document.* Like the net itself, it is not necessarily required to be linear; that's what the internal links are for. With the internal linking, it is extremely user-friendly, and reading it from start to finish is simply one option, not necessarily even the norm. So I say launch away, and if substantive user comments come in suggesting a different organization, or our own use of it suggests it, then deal with it later. There does come a point to cry "done" and swing that champagne bottle. Just my opinion--based on long-ago classes on the differences between writing for paper and writing for the web, and how the audience for each format has different expectations and methods of access. ~Amanda From lupinesque at yahoo.com Fri Nov 15 16:05:35 2002 From: lupinesque at yahoo.com (Amy Z) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:05:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: They're . . . They're *Beautiful!* In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021115160535.8178.qmail@web20303.mail.yahoo.com> They absolutely are. They're more tongue-tying than Fleur, more extremely handsome than Cedric, more dangerous-looking than Sirius, more glittery-eyed than Snape, more ______ than _______ (insert your Most Beautiful HP Character here). Really, I am being silly, but I'm very impressed. Bravo, all you hardworking people! (BTW, she says, skidding into the Snape FAQ weeks late, no, it wasn't my husband who said Snape had Problems with a capital P. Sounds like Jan.) Amy ===== In fall their brightened leaves, released, fly down the wind, and we are pleased to walk on radiance, amazed. O light come down to earth, be praised. --Wendell Berry, "Great Trees" __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com From cindysphinx at comcast.net Fri Nov 15 16:24:31 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 16:24:31 -0000 Subject: Snape FP In-Reply-To: <86.2345af5a.2b055304@aol.com> Message-ID: Eloise: > Whilst it's terribly flattering to have my name associated with >this magnificent *piece de resistance* I can see no justification >for it whatsoever. Uh, I seem to have the same problem. Did I do something to earn an acknowledgement? 'Cause I'm rather drawing a blank. I probably should be removed unless I really did something. I may have, as the FAQ list is becoming too much of a blur, but I don't recall it. Cindy From porphyria at mindspring.com Fri Nov 15 16:38:59 2002 From: porphyria at mindspring.com (Porphyria) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:38:59 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Snape FP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I tried to thank everyone who proofread it enough to make a constructive correction. If anyone has a *real problem* with that, I suppose I could change it to something vaguer like "the whole FP team, none of whom, you, gentle newbie, have ever heard of." As for you Cindy, I was thanking you for cracking the whip. ~P. On Friday, November 15, 2002, at 11:24 AM, Cindy C. wrote: > Eloise: > > > Whilst it's terribly flattering to have my name associated with > >this magnificent *piece de resistance* I can see no justification > >for it whatsoever. > > Uh, I seem to have the same problem.? Did I do something to earn an > acknowledgement?? 'Cause I'm rather drawing a blank.? I probably > should be removed unless I really did something.? I may have, as the > FAQ list is becoming too much of a blur, but I don't recall it. > > Cindy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From cindysphinx at comcast.net Sat Nov 16 15:14:17 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 15:14:17 -0000 Subject: Snape FP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Porphyria wrote: > I tried to thank everyone who proofread it enough to make a >constructive correction. Ah, that makes sense. That's pretty much what I did with the History FAQ -- I thanked folks who wrote bits, helped me research various things, and slogged through the whole thing to make substantive revisions. > As for you Cindy, I was thanking you for cracking the whip. What? I get thanked for something I enjoyed immensely? Cool! ;-) Cindy From porphyria at mindspring.com Sun Nov 17 06:22:21 2002 From: porphyria at mindspring.com (Porphyria) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 01:22:21 -0500 Subject: Fwd: inconsistencies Message-ID: Hee hee. What, three days as the FP webmistress and already I'm getting hate mail. ;-) ----- Begin forwarded message: > From: Amanda Shirley > Date: Sat Nov 16, 2002 11:13:57 PM US/Eastern > To: porphyria at mindspring.com > Subject: inconsistencies > > question 2 in the harry potter section of the inconsistencies. HERMIONE > FIXES THE GLASSES ON THE HOGWARTS EXPRESS WHEN SHE MEETS > HARRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS NOT AN INCONSISTENCY!!!!!!!! From lupinesque at yahoo.com Sun Nov 17 11:45:35 2002 From: lupinesque at yahoo.com (Amy Z) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 11:45:35 -0000 Subject: Fwd: inconsistencies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Porphyria wrote: > Hee hee. What, three days as the FP webmistress and already I'm getting > hate mail. Forward it to Joywitch. It was her message that started the whole thing, and she probably eats hate mail for dessert (after a meal of lightly sauteed children). Maybe we should have a form letter on file: "Dear Concerned Reader, please note that the Fantastic Posts and Where to Find Them refer to the BOOKS by J.K. Rowling, which you might want to consider reading before you fire off e-mails with 23 exclamation points in them." If you haven't written to the complainer yet, can I, please, can I, huh, please? I promise I won't be snotty. BTW, I could swear this question came up much later (the original question was how could Harry's glasses break in Knockturn Alley, i.e., how could they be intact at the beginning of CS), and I answered it from years of painful experience wearing taped glasses: they break, you tape 'em, they hold for months, then you drop them or something and they break "again," i.e., at the same spot as before. I'm sure in Penny's copious spare time she can look up the later thread and add it to the FP. Amy From pennylin at swbell.net Sun Nov 17 14:19:22 2002 From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny Linsenmayer) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 08:19:22 -0600 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Fwd: inconsistencies References: Message-ID: <070601c28e44$5384fd20$4f5ffea9@cq5hs01> Hi -- Amy Z suggested: <<<>> This language is *perfect* and I think someone should write her back with exactly this response. :::grumbles about movie contamination:::: <<<>>>>>>> Or me?? Ooh, wait -- I can't promise not to be snotty I'm afraid so maybe Amy is a better choice. :--) Penny [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From porphyria at mindspring.com Sun Nov 17 17:34:18 2002 From: porphyria at mindspring.com (Porphyria) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 12:34:18 -0500 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Fwd: inconsistencies In-Reply-To: <070601c28e44$5384fd20$4f5ffea9@cq5hs01> Message-ID: Amy Z suggested: > <<< huh, please?? I promise I won't be snotty.>>>>>>>> Penny added: > Or me??? Ooh, wait -- I can't promise not to be snotty I'm afraid so > maybe Amy is a better choice.? :--) I haven't written back; I only got the mail quite late last night and I wasn't able to think up a non-snotty reply on the spot, so I decided to turn it over to the forum, especially since I wasn't even a member of the group during that thread. Amy, you may have the honor. ~P. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From editor at texas.net Tue Nov 19 02:17:37 2002 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 20:17:37 -0600 Subject: Where the FAQs are Message-ID: <008001c28f71$d5339880$8505a6d8@texas.net> I have a question....I can click on the link to the FAQs from the home page of the main list, but they are not findable or accessible from the Lexicon itself. At least, this is how I have found it to be; is this correct? ~Amanda From hp_lexicon at yahoo.com Wed Nov 20 04:00:08 2002 From: hp_lexicon at yahoo.com (hp_lexicon) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 04:00:08 -0000 Subject: Where the FAQs are In-Reply-To: <008001c28f71$d5339880$8505a6d8@texas.net> Message-ID: --- In HP4GU-FAQ at y..., "Amanda Geist" wrote: > I have a question....I can click on the link to the FAQs from the home page > of the main list, but they are not findable or accessible from the Lexicon The FAQs are not part of the Lexicon, so there are no links between them with two minor exceptions. I linked to the Rowling bio instead of writing my own and I think I have a link to the geography page somewhere. But those are considered external links for the purposes of the Lexicon. I believe my search does search the FAQs as well, however. I tried to stop it from doing that, but I can't seem to do it. Steve From eloiseherisson at aol.com Wed Nov 20 07:02:58 2002 From: eloiseherisson at aol.com (eloiseherisson at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 02:02:58 EST Subject: Edited highlights Message-ID: <117.1af7adf3.2b0c8da2@aol.com> Highlights of an entertaining morning... (names have been suppressed to protect the not-so-innocent) A reference to "Smallbottom's bouncing incident". A theory that casting AK somehow makes you stronger. Snape is a hen-pecked husband. (Well, I wouldn't dare. Would you?) Oodles of varied evidence to indicate that Lupin is, as any Brit knows, pronounced, well, Lupin. (Don't you guys grow lupins?) A charming observation from Lexicon Steve, that in the books, "days and dates just don't seem to stay put very well." And finally (obviously anticipating objections to the Reverse Memory Charm theory and making a pre-emptive strike)... Mrs Lestrange isn't afraid of the Reverse Memory Charm being used on Neville because...wait for it... She's never heard of it! Now who could argue with that? ............................... On another note, Ali has asked me to let you know that she's presently unplottable on account of her computer needing a new power supply. Eloise From cindysphinx at comcast.net Mon Nov 25 14:48:08 2002 From: cindysphinx at comcast.net (Cindy C.) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 14:48:08 -0000 Subject: November Progress and Status Report Message-ID: Hi, all, It's almost December, which means it is time for the November Progress and Status Report. Fortunately, most of the news is quite good indeed. We launched the FPs right on schedule. They look good, and they are good. Hypothetic Alley loads much more quickly than it has in the past. And I suspect that quite a number of list members have read the Snape FP, judging by the way new members are suddenly citing some of the best Snape posts from many months ago. We have two more new FPs we're hoping to launch fairly soon. Ali has agreed to put her cataloguing on hold and update the Quidditch FP. Neil's draft was quite comprehensive, so Ali will use the catalogue and do a few searches to add some newer material. Elkins and Amy are writing the Lupin FP, and they hope to have something pulled together in a matter of weeks. When those FPs are ready to go, we'll do the administrative work required to move the FPs from the Lexicon to Fiction Alley. In the meantime, the cataloguing continues. As of today, we completed around 1777 messages in November and no new message blocks. These numbers added to our October numbers (about 6000 messages and 5 complete message blocks) means that we have catalogued a total of 7777 messages of the 21,000 (37%) we set out to do. Those numbers reflect a great deal of hard work by the team, of course. There's no denying, however, that our November pace has slowed considerably from October. If we improve upon November's pace a bit and manage to catalogue 2000 messages a month in the future, completion of the catalogue will take 6.5 months, so we would finish the catalogue at the end of May. If that happens and if OoP is released in the late spring or early summer, there is a good chance that we wouldn't launch another new FP (other than Lupin and Quidditch) before OoP arrives. We would have a catalogue of 21,000 messages but no new FPs for list members. For that reason, we have decided that we should establish a date certain for completion of the catalogue. We certainly believe that having a completed catalogue will be an indispensable tool for writing new FPs, but we do feel that we have to allow the group a reasonable number of months to sit down and write new FPs before OoP is released. We think it is reasonable to establish February 1 as our deadline to complete the catalogue. If the cataloguing is not complete by then, we will decide at that point how to move forward. We might, for instance, have someone make a cursory review of the unfinished messages looking for messages that are truly exceptional. This means that a great many messages would be skipped and not represented in the catalogue, even though they really should be. That is not our preference, of course. But if we cannot meet our February 1 deadline, this may be our only choice. In light of the time pressure we are facing, this would probably be a good time to take stock and see if we can make adjustments in how we are approaching things. One idea we are considering is breaking up the unfinished message blocks into smaller pieces ?- say, 250 messages instead of 1000. This might enable some FAQers who don't have time to do a full message block to take on a more manageable obligation. After all, if a FAQer catalogues 25 messages a day (about 30 minutes of time), the FAQer could finish 250 messages in just 10 days. At this point, it would be helpful to hear from some of the cataloguers who have completed less than half of their message blocks. Can each of you check in with us, either on-list or off- list, and let us know how you are doing with your message block and whether you think you will finish by February 1? If you don't believe you will finish, can you give us a realistic idea of how many messages you expect to be able to complete each month between now and then? Once we have your estimates, we'll put up for grabs the messages you think you won't complete so that others can catalogue them. Does anyone have any suggestions or reactions to the issues we have raised? Go on, don't be shy. Cindy and Elkins From pennylin at swbell.net Mon Nov 25 19:09:49 2002 From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny Linsenmayer) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 13:09:49 -0600 Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] November Progress and Status Report References: Message-ID: <039101c294b6$3a2e0b50$4f5ffea9@cq5hs01> Hi -- <<<>>>>>>>>>> I am pretty much where I was 20-30 days ago on this project. However, I do expect to resume FAQ'ing at a rate of 10-25 messages per day, starting this week. So, Feb 1st is definitely not a problem for my message block, and I actually will plan to try & finish it by Christmas. I am nearly 25% finished in any case, and when I hit the 250 mark, I will definitely reupload my spreadsheet to the Files area so it will be available if I'm hit by a bus. :--) Penny (who's soooooooooooooo glad that Cindy & Elkins have really gotten behind this project as it's all looking just super!) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From eloiseherisson at aol.com Wed Nov 27 13:26:02 2002 From: eloiseherisson at aol.com (eloise_herisson) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 13:26:02 -0000 Subject: Topic term needed Message-ID: Hey, I forget. How do we key posts about methods of interpretation (is that the right word? ) Specifically I have a post all about Faith and her attitude to Edge and Bangs and I don't know what to do with it. Thanks! Eloise From elfundeb at aol.com Wed Nov 27 20:23:00 2002 From: elfundeb at aol.com (elfundeb at aol.com) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 15:23:00 EST Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Topic term needed Message-ID: <30.31c145b5.2b1683a4@aol.com> In a message dated 11/27/02 8:27:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, eloiseherisson at aol.com writes: > How do we key posts about methods of interpretation (is that the > right word? ) > Specifically I have a post all about Faith and her attitude to Edge > and Bangs and I don't know what to do with it. > > I've been keying posts like that as "Reader Reaction" on the basis that it relates to the reader's interpretation of the text. Does anyone have a different view? Debbie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]