[HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Still More cataloguing questions

eloiseherisson at aol.com eloiseherisson at aol.com
Thu Oct 3 16:41:00 UTC 2002


Eileen:
> 
> > 2) Convention for discussion of non-shipping relationships between 
> > characters?
> > 
> > I've developed my own convention, when the discussion is of the
> relationship 
> > of one character to another of writing,  name/name (in alphabetical
> order). 
> > Thus Snape/Sirius, or Dumbledore/Snape. (I'm also giving them separate 
> > entries if they warrant it.)
> > Does this seem reasonable? I can easily change it.
> 
> This presents a problem since that's the usual shorthand for SHIP.
> When I'm cataloguing a SHIP post, I've been writing SHIP and then the
> pairing "Name/name" for example: Keyword 1: SHIP, Keyword 2:
> Snape/Lily. However, I agree that we need some type of shorthand.
> Writing Keyword 1: Ron , Keyword 2: Hermione, Keyword 3: Friendship is
> a bit too much. How about using a dash to indicate non-shipping
> rleationships. Therefore, it would be Snape-Lily vs. Snape/Lily. 


Ah...I misunderstood. I thought that shipping posts would say something like, 

SHIP Snape/Lily or Snape/Lily (SHIP), all in the same cell.

Would Excel recognise the difference between a hyphen and a slash when it 
came to srting posts?

How about we take a ruling from higher authority on that one?
I've found quite a few of those sort of posts both deal with an individual 
*and* with that individual's relationship with someone else, sometimes in 
some complexity. Maybe it's not necessary to specify that, but I just thought 
that if, say writing a FAQ on Sirius, it might be quite helpful to be able to 
identify easily those posts that explored the naure of his relationship with 
Snape or Lupin, for example.

> > 
> > 3) I know we're supposed to be using last names for adults(and that
> Cindy's 
> > just reinforced this re Lucius Malfoy) but that doesn't come very
> easily with 
> > Sirius, does it? I've just realised I've been using his first name.
> Is that 
> > OK? Nobody calls him 'Black' unless they're being detrimental (so I
> don't 
> > know why I'm fussing, not being the world's greatest Sirius fan -
> I'm in the 
> > middle of cataloguing an outbreak of Snape/Sirius warfare). He is
> the one 
> > adult in the books (IIRC) who is normally referred to by his
> forename (aside 
> > from Weasleys).
> 

Eileen:

> I've been categorizing him as Black but it's a bit of an effort. I
> would be happy to change to Sirius, as that's what everyone
> automatically thinks of him. It wouldn't take much time to change mine
> since I haven't been cataloguing one of those dreaded fights. 
> 
> > 4) I think we sort of decided once upon a time that the Incident
> Which Must 
> > Not Be Named should not really be called, 'The Prank'. But that's
> what we 
> > call it, so that's what I've catalogued it as. ;-)
> 
> We did? Was that in the Snape/Sirius wars as well? Agreed though it
> should be catalogued as such. 


Mmm. Last time round, I think. Someone pointed out that it is never referred 
to as a prank in canon. (And we sort of came to an unspoken agrrement not to 
mention it as Snape/Sirius discussions always seemed to come back to it!) 
Mind you, Steve's recently pointed out that the term, 'Marauders' is 
uncanonical, too. But MWPP is probably an easier keyword, anyway and avoids 
confusion with the map.

> Eileen:
> I've been adding keywords including "Weasley Age Gap,"
> "Redemption" etc. 
> 
> 
What did you mean precisely by, 'Redemption'?
I noticed it on the list and used it for a post which suggested Draco might 
yet be influenced for good (though I don't think the word itself was usd in 
the post, that was clearly the shorthand that others would apply to it). Is 
that what you were thinking?

I'm a little bit concerned that even though we have a list of common terms, 
there's potential for our using some of them differently or adding a 
superflous keyword for something that already has one. If it's not crystal 
clear, I think we should add a rider (like Analysis has).

I've used 'Prophecy' to refer to Trelawney's first prediction, because the 
poster was talking about prophecy, but we already have a prediction keyword, 
so perhaps I should re-classify?

Does it matter if we don't capitalise? I suffer from mine not coming out 
quite frequently. Does it matter if I accidentally miss correcting some?

Amy:
>>SOPE

This isn't ringing a bell.  Snape's Odor is
Particularly Effusive?  Strategy of Pre-Emption
(political commentary perhaps?)?  I give up.>>

It wasn't just me, then! I managed to find it by looking up Dicey's work in 
progress and pulling the relevant post! But I still can't remember what it 
means. Something to do with overly soap-operatic plot devices, I think!

Talking of which, Where's Inish Alley gone?
Is there a link to it anywhere these days? I know my sense of direction's 
bad, but I couldn't find one.

Eloise
Becoming rapidly submerged in the pieces of paper she keeps printing off to 
tell her what she should be doing!



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