From editor at texas.net  Wed Jul  2 15:43:41 2003
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda)
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 15:43:41 -0000
Subject: OoP FAQs on Main List
In-Reply-To: <bdl3tt+abf8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bduujd+ad2l@eGroups.com>

Cindy:
 
> I read over the OOP FAQs on the home page, and they gave me an 
idea.  
> Most of the FAQs are mysteries and possible FLINTs, right?  Well, 
we 
> do have a Mysteries FP.  Should we maybe try to compile a list of 
> FLINTs and other oddities in OoP?  Maybe if we put our heads 
together 
> we could at least come up with an outline.
> 
> Should we be thinking about this now, do you think?

Not a response to your specific question, but along these lines:

1. Did you/we ever make any decision on "volumes" of FAQs? Books 1-4, 
and now we start Book 5? Because it suddenly strikes me that the OoP 
FAQs that the main list has compiled are a *really* handy start to 
the new FAQ volumes.

2. What was the final procedure (or was there one) for putting a 
message number up for consideration as a Fantastic Post (or for 
inclusion as a representative message of a thread, in a FAQ)?

~Amanda, who's had a couple of very busy weeks at work and is out of 
the loop





From cindysphynx at comcast.net  Wed Jul  2 18:16:56 2003
From: cindysphynx at comcast.net (Cindy C.)
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 18:16:56 -0000
Subject: OoP FAQs on Main List
In-Reply-To: <bduujd+ad2l@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bdv7io+pjok@eGroups.com>

Amanda:

> 1. Did you/we ever make any decision on "volumes" of FAQs? Books 1-
>4, and now we start Book 5? Because it suddenly strikes me that the 
>OoP FAQs that the main list has compiled are a *really* handy start 
>to the new FAQ volumes.

No, we didn't.  I think you were going to flesh out the idea a bit 
and post something explaining what you have in mind.  


 
> 2. What was the final procedure (or was there one) for putting a 
> message number up for consideration as a Fantastic Post (or for 
> inclusion as a representative message of a thread, in a FAQ)?

Yes.  If you see a good post on the main list, go do the database in 
the database section of this list.  The database is called "Fantastic 
Posts."  Fill in the requisite information.  That's it.

Cindy





From heidit at netbox.com  Thu Jul  3 21:29:54 2003
From: heidit at netbox.com (Heidi Tandy)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:29:54 -0400
Subject: Faqs moving...
Message-ID: <1057267798.35B82897@s5.dngr.org>

Due in large part to the smashing success of ootp, both the hpfgu faqs 
and fictionalley's site have been innundated this past month, so over 
the weekend we will be moving both to a new server, thanks to the 
remarkable talents of Paul Kippes and his technoteam.

This shouldn't cause any interruption in anything but we cannot make any 
changes to the faqs or the page at hpfgu.org.uk this weekend at all. If 
something needs changing, do it friday or wait until tuesday, please. 
Questions? Ask paul!

Heidi, keeper of the servers

Ps - for those on faq who don't know, fictionalley has dedicated servers 
and host the hpfgu site on it.



From lupinesque at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  7 03:45:36 2003
From: lupinesque at yahoo.com (Amy Z)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 03:45:36 -0000
Subject: Bye, Fantastic people!
Message-ID: <beaqd0+adnt@eGroups.com>

Hey all--

I've stepped down from HPfGU list administration and since I'm fairly 
useless over here, I think I'll just cheer the Fantastic Posts from 
afar as well.  

I still have half-written Lupin stuff on my hard drive to send to 
whoever is working on that FAQ.  I know you'll take good care of my 
favorite guy.  (Put Pippin's stuff in 6-point type, will you? <g>)

Hugs,
Amy




From erisedstraeh2002 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  7 18:40:30 2003
From: erisedstraeh2002 at yahoo.com (Phyllis)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 18:40:30 -0000
Subject: Team List and Team Name
Message-ID: <becequ+rhem@eGroups.com>

I never thought when I volunteered to put together the team list that 
this would be such a moving target!  The new list follows my message 
and reflects Simon and Amy's departures and the addition of Dave and 
Naama, as well as the deletion of the Yahoo ID's.  Are we ready to go 
with this?

Also, did we decide on a team name?  Should we set up a poll to vote 
on one?  IIRC, we had the following nominations:  Squibs, newts, 
scamanders, owls, nifflers, goblins...are there any I forgot?  Any 
new nominations from Book 5 (anyone for "metamorphmagi")?

The team list du jour:

Abigail 
Ali 
Catherine 
Cindy 
Carole 
Caius
Dave 
Dicentra 
Amanda 
Debbie 
Eloise 
Eric 
Phyllis 
Pippin 
Gail 
Gwen 
Heidi 
Jennifer 
Jim 
Jo Serenadust 
Joy 
Paul
Charis
Eileen 
Melody 
Mike 
Kimberly 
Morgan 
Naama
Penny 
Pip 
Porphyria 
Barb 
Marina 
Elkins 
Steve 
Derannimer
Sheryll  
Tabouli 
Tom

~Phyllis




From porphyria at mindspring.com  Mon Jul  7 23:47:49 2003
From: porphyria at mindspring.com (Porphyria Ashenden)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 23:47:49 -0000
Subject: Team List and Team Name
In-Reply-To: <becequ+rhem@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bed0r5+mpam@eGroups.com>

Phyllis wrote:

> I never thought when I volunteered to put together the team list 
that 
> this would be such a moving target!  The new list follows my 
message 
> and reflects Simon and Amy's departures and the addition of Dave 
and 
> Naama, as well as the deletion of the Yahoo ID's.  Are we ready to 
go 
> with this?

I'm ready to upload the list whenever the FA servers are ready for 
it. 

Heidi, will the password and logon information still be the same for 
the FP site after Tuesday? If not, please email me the new info. 


> Also, did we decide on a team name?  Should we set up a poll to 
vote 
> on one?  IIRC, we had the following nominations:  Squibs, newts, 
> scamanders, owls, nifflers, goblins...are there any I forgot?  Any 
> new nominations from Book 5 (anyone for "metamorphmagi")?

I was told we were going with "Fantastic Post Owls"

Thanks, Undead!Porphyria





From kippesp at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  8 18:57:49 2003
From: kippesp at yahoo.com (kippesp)
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 18:57:49 -0000
Subject: FA Server (was Re: Team List and Team Name)
In-Reply-To: <bed0r5+mpam@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bef47d+a9ia@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com, "Porphyria Ashenden" 
<porphyria at m...> wrote:
> I'm ready to upload the list whenever the FA servers are ready for 
> it. 
> 
> Heidi, will the password and logon information still be the same 
for 
> the FP site after Tuesday? If not, please email me the new info. 

You already know this, I think.  But the login/password is the same.

We do get to make sure John has everything he needs to switch the IP 
for hpfgu.org.uk.  I do not see any indication that this has been 
done.  For this DNS change to complete, it will take a maximum of 
120 hours because of its longer timeout.




From cindysphynx at comcast.net  Sat Jul 12 11:59:26 2003
From: cindysphynx at comcast.net (Cindy C.)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 11:59:26 -0000
Subject: I'm . . . I'm a *Spammer!*
Message-ID: <beot6u+69d6@eGroups.com>

Hey,

I've been out of town on holiday, so I haven't caught up.  

I did notice, however, that my computer seems to have been hijacked.  
I read that some spammers have been able to hack into some folks' 
computers and use them to send spam.  In flipping quickly through my 
e-mail, I found a bounced message to a stranger -- sending them spam 
about refinancing their mortgage!  Yikes!

Man, this sucks.  Not only did they use my business e-mail, but Yahoo 
will cut me off it it starts thinking I'm a spammer.  Oh, dear.

If any of you receive spam from me, would you let me know?

Cindy




From heidit at netbox.com  Sat Jul 12 13:21:48 2003
From: heidit at netbox.com (Heidi Tandy)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 09:21:48 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] I'm . . . I'm a *Spammer!*
In-Reply-To: <beot6u+69d6@eGroups.com>
References: <beot6u+69d6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1058016112.F5DCE93@r5.dngr.org>

Cindy, it is not likely that your computer was actually hacked, although 
if you are truly concerned, get a firewall - I'm sure some of the 
techies on this list have recommendations (I use the norton firewall 
program myself). What probably happened is an email address 
consolidator, who sells addresses to spammers, randomly chose your 
address as the 'sent from' spoof-address.

Yahoo is well aware of this, and would realise that the ip address is 
either affiliated with a known spammer-address or is one that you have 
never used, and in fact couldn't've been using when the spam was sent. 
But if you want to talk directly to someone at yahoo, let me know and 
I'll give you a number there that might be useful.

Heidi


On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 7:59AM -0500, Cindy C. wrote:
> Real-To:  "Cindy C." <cindysphynx at comcast.net>
>
> Hey,
>
> I've been out of town on holiday, so I haven't caught up.
>
> I did notice, however, that my computer seems to have been hijacked.
> I read that some spammers have been able to hack into some folks'
> computers and use them to send spam.  In flipping quickly through my
> e-mail, I found a bounced message to a stranger -- sending them spam
> about refinancing their mortgage!  Yikes!
>
> Man, this sucks.  Not only did they use my business e-mail, but Yahoo
> will cut me off it it starts thinking I'm a spammer.  Oh, dear.
>
> If any of you receive spam from me, would you let me know?
>
> Cindy
>
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From steve at hp-lexicon.org  Sat Jul 12 14:28:02 2003
From: steve at hp-lexicon.org (Steve Vander Ark)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 10:28:02 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] I'm . . . I'm a *Spammer!*
In-Reply-To: <beot6u+69d6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000901c34881$d10606c0$e000a8c0@castle>

If it makes you feel any better, I get 5-10 of these a day. I also get at
least 50 spam and another 20-30 virus-laden emails every day. That's on top
of the endless "I found an error in your website" or "I have this great
theory about Ron" or "Hey, did you notice that there's this gleam in
Dumbledore's eye?" emails I get. It's astounding how many people's address
books I'm in...
 
Steve
Mr. Popular

-----Original Message-----
From: Cindy C. [mailto:cindysphynx at comcast.net] 
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 7:59 AM
To: HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] I'm . . . I'm a *Spammer!*


Hey,

I've been out of town on holiday, so I haven't caught up.  

I did notice, however, that my computer seems to have been hijacked.  
I read that some spammers have been able to hack into some folks' 
computers and use them to send spam.  In flipping quickly through my 
e-mail, I found a bounced message to a stranger -- sending them spam 
about refinancing their mortgage!  Yikes!

Man, this sucks.  Not only did they use my business e-mail, but Yahoo 
will cut me off it it starts thinking I'm a spammer.  Oh, dear.

If any of you receive spam from me, would you let me know?

Cindy



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From editor at texas.net  Sat Jul 12 15:49:24 2003
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 10:49:24 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] I'm . . . I'm a *Spammer!*
References: <beot6u+69d6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <005201c3488d$2bc49d00$5f05a6d8@texas.net>

I haven't gotten any that I'm aware of. I always read Cindy C posts--or
would they have been from someone else?

I'm confused...did you leave your computer on while you were on vacation?
How did this happen?

~Amanda

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy C." <cindysphynx at comcast.net>
To: <HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 6:59 AM
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] I'm . . . I'm a *Spammer!*


> Hey,
>
> I've been out of town on holiday, so I haven't caught up.
>
> I did notice, however, that my computer seems to have been hijacked.
> I read that some spammers have been able to hack into some folks'
> computers and use them to send spam.  In flipping quickly through my
> e-mail, I found a bounced message to a stranger -- sending them spam
> about refinancing their mortgage!  Yikes!
>
> Man, this sucks.  Not only did they use my business e-mail, but Yahoo
> will cut me off it it starts thinking I'm a spammer.  Oh, dear.
>
> If any of you receive spam from me, would you let me know?
>
> Cindy
>
>
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From cindysphynx at comcast.net  Sat Jul 12 16:46:43 2003
From: cindysphynx at comcast.net (Cindy C.)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 16:46:43 -0000
Subject: I'm . . . I'm a *Spammer!*
In-Reply-To: <005201c3488d$2bc49d00$5f05a6d8@texas.net>
Message-ID: <bepe1j+24o8@eGroups.com>

Amanda:

> I haven't gotten any that I'm aware of. I always read Cindy C posts-
>-or would they have been from someone else?

The e-mail that bounced back to me was addressed to someone I had 
never heard of, and it came back to me as an e-mail bounce.

 
> I'm confused...did you leave your computer on while you were on 
>vacation?


No.  Isn't that strange?

> How did this happen?

Wish I knew.  Is it really possible for someone to take someone's e-
mail address and send out e-mail from another computer in their 
name?  If they didn't hack me and instead just harvested my address, 
how did they complete the deed?

Oh, and another one bounced back to me that indicates I am advising 
the world on how to enhance penis size.  Man, I really hope this 
stuff isn't going to my client!

Cindy 




From editor at texas.net  Sat Jul 12 16:56:28 2003
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 11:56:28 -0500
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: I'm . . . I'm a *Spammer!*
References: <bepe1j+24o8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00af01c34896$8a43cfa0$5f05a6d8@texas.net>

Spam!Cindy:

> Oh, and another one bounced back to me that indicates I am advising
> the world on how to enhance penis size.  Man, I really hope this
> stuff isn't going to my client!

You never know... he may want it. Do you know what to tell him if he
inquires about it...?

~Amanda, who almost spit Dr. Pepper into her keyboard when she read that




From heidit at netbox.com  Sat Jul 12 20:38:01 2003
From: heidit at netbox.com (Heidi Tandy)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 16:38:01 -0400
Subject: Spoofed/Forged Email
Message-ID: <1058042286.332EABF8@w5.dngr.org>

This page explains the ins and outs of spoofing email. In netscape 
browsers, you can just go into the preferences section and put in any 
address you wish.

http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/email_spoofing.html

Heidi



From cindysphynx at comcast.net  Tue Jul 15 22:04:34 2003
From: cindysphynx at comcast.net (Cindy C.)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:04:34 -0000
Subject: Spoofed/Forged Email and Roll Call
In-Reply-To: <1058042286.332EABF8@w5.dngr.org>
Message-ID: <bf1tpi+q8gr@eGroups.com>

Heidi wrote:

> This page explains the ins and outs of spoofing email. 

Thanks, Heidi!  Now I appear to be offering debt consolidation 
services to perfect strangers.  Ahem.

Anyway, back to business . . . 

I think Charis is back, and I think Morgan may be the final FAQ 
member to re-join us after OoP.  Should we figure out what we should 
do with the FAQs and how?

Anyone have a thought?

Cindy

 





From heidit at netbox.com  Tue Jul 15 22:47:16 2003
From: heidit at netbox.com (Heidi Tandy)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:47:16 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Spoofed/Forged Email and Roll Call
In-Reply-To: <bf1tpi+q8gr@eGroups.com>
References: <bf1tpi+q8gr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1058309240.644A4A9@s5.dngr.org>

I think we might want to put this on hold until next week, as a lot of 
people on this list are traveling to orlando, if not there already - so 
can we not make any final decisions until we're all back?

Heidi, doingf panicked packing, and glad to havew been of help re the 
spoofing thing...


On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 6:05PM -0500, Cindy C. wrote:
> Real-To:  "Cindy C." <cindysphynx at comcast.net>
>
> Heidi wrote:
>
>>  This page explains the ins and outs of spoofing email.
>
> Thanks, Heidi!  Now I appear to be offering debt consolidation
> services to perfect strangers.  Ahem.
>
> Anyway, back to business . . .
>
> I think Charis is back, and I think Morgan may be the final FAQ
> member to re-join us after OoP.  Should we figure out what we should
> do with the FAQs and how?
>
> Anyone have a thought?
>
> Cindy
>
>
>
>
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From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Thu Jul 17 22:11:43 2003
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (David)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 22:11:43 -0000
Subject: I'm . . . I'm a *Spammer!*
In-Reply-To: <00af01c34896$8a43cfa0$5f05a6d8@texas.net>
Message-ID: <bf76uv+3m3v@eGroups.com>

> Spam!Cindy:
> 
> > Oh, and another one bounced back to me that indicates I am 
advising
> > the world on how to enhance penis size.  Man, I really hope this
> > stuff isn't going to my client!

Spamanda:
> 
> You never know... he may want it. Do you know what to tell him if 
he
> inquires about it...?

Particularly if he's a she.

D, who has disappointingly received no spam from Cindy




From thomasmwall at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 18 02:51:59 2003
From: thomasmwall at yahoo.com (Tom Wall)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 02:51:59 -0000
Subject: Eurgh - where'd this color come from?
Message-ID: <bf7ncf+i0l6@eGroups.com>

Has anyone noticed that there's a garish (at least, it's garish on 
*my* screen) red color that's invaded the FAQ list menus? 

Ewww, yech!

Is it here on purpose? If not, can we get rid of it?

-Tom, who disappointingly also got no spam from Cindy, but who has 
had problems with his AOL account getting hijacked recently by 
someone selling septic tank information.




From cindysphynx at comcast.net  Fri Jul 18 03:03:01 2003
From: cindysphynx at comcast.net (Cindy C.)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 03:03:01 -0000
Subject: Eurgh - where'd this color come from?
In-Reply-To: <bf7ncf+i0l6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bf7o15+ikp1@eGroups.com>

Tom opined:

> Ewww, yech!
> 
> Is it here on purpose? If not, can we get rid of it?

<Cindy shuffles her feet and gives Tom a hopeful look, but he is 
having none of it>

Yes, these are the new July colors, which I noticed no one had 
changed for this month.  I figured I'd go with American Independence 
day colors.  Isn't it festive!

No?

Yeah, you're right.  I was, er, just checking to make sure you were 
all still out there, sharpening your pencils in preparation for FAQ 
writing.

Here's an idea.  The first person to race over to "Management" on the 
left side of the screen and who is able to figure out how to change 
the colors can create his/her own custom design.  

Cindy -- who really does prefer bright colors, but maybe not this 
bright




From thomasmwall at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 18 03:17:22 2003
From: thomasmwall at yahoo.com (Tom Wall)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 03:17:22 -0000
Subject: Eurgh - where'd this color come from?
In-Reply-To: <bf7o15+ikp1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bf7os2+pla0@eGroups.com>

--- In HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com, "Cindy C." <cindysphynx at c...> 
wrote:
I opined about the page colors:
Ewww, yech!

Is it here on purpose? If not, can we get rid of it?

Cindy replied:
Yes, these are the new July colors, which I noticed no one had 
changed for this month.  I figured I'd go with American Independence 
day colors.  Isn't it festive!
<snip>

Here's an idea.  The first person to race over to "Management" on 
the left side of the screen and who is able to figure out how to 
change the colors can create his/her own custom design.  

Tom adds:
Oooooh, me! I kept your Independence Day theme, while dulling the 
intensity of that red. ;-)

-Tom




From cindysphynx at comcast.net  Fri Jul 18 03:40:12 2003
From: cindysphynx at comcast.net (Cindy C.)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 03:40:12 -0000
Subject: Eurgh - where'd this color come from?
In-Reply-To: <bf7os2+pla0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bf7q6s+j6tv@eGroups.com>

Tom wrote:

> Oooooh, me! I kept your Independence Day theme, while dulling the 
> intensity of that red. ;-)


Independence Day theme?

*Independence* Day theme????

<bangs on monitor>

Nope, this thing isn't working at all.  I'm getting Halloween colors 
for some reason.  Don't get me wrong; they're absolutely lovely. ;-) 

Is there some country with an Independence Day in July that has 
pumpkin orange and butter yellow on its flag or something?

Cindy -- who really can't think of a country with orange in the flag




From thomasmwall at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 18 03:50:57 2003
From: thomasmwall at yahoo.com (Tom Wall)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 03:50:57 -0000
Subject: Eurgh - where'd this color come from?
In-Reply-To: <bf7q6s+j6tv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bf7qr1+6pcr@eGroups.com>

Tom wrote:
...Independence Day theme?

Cindy rpelied:
*Independence* Day theme????

<bangs on monitor>

Nope, this thing isn't working at all.  I'm getting Halloween colors 
for some reason.  Don't get me wrong; they're absolutely lovely. ;-) 

Tom adds:
Now I'm confused. It *was* (sort-of) red white and blue. Now it's 
definitely orange. So confused...

Cindy:
Cindy -- who really can't think of a country with orange in the flag

Tom:
Oh, Oh! Ireland! Yeah - that's the only one I can think of. ;-)

-Tom




From susannahlm at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 19 00:43:07 2003
From: susannahlm at yahoo.com (Susannah Myers)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:43:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Eurgh - where'd this color come from?
In-Reply-To: <bf7qr1+6pcr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20030719004307.85598.qmail@web14304.mail.yahoo.com>


--- Tom Wall <thomasmwall at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Tom wrote:
> ...Independence Day theme?
> 
> Cindy rpelied:
> *Independence* Day theme????
> 
> <bangs on monitor>
> 
> Nope, this thing isn't working at all.  I'm getting
> Halloween colors 
> for some reason.  Don't get me wrong; they're
> absolutely lovely. ;-) 
> 
> Tom adds:
> Now I'm confused. It *was* (sort-of) red white and
> blue. Now it's 
> definitely orange. So confused...
> 
> Cindy:
> Cindy -- who really can't think of a country with
> orange in the flag
> 
> Tom:
> Oh, Oh! Ireland! Yeah - that's the only one I can
> think of. ;-)
> 
> -Tom

Oh! 

Oh, whoops.

Oh, see. . . I got Cindy's message in my in-box and
hadn't realized that you had already changed the
colors, Tom; I went over to see if Cindy's decorations
were still up, and to see if they really looked as
hideous as all that. When I saw that the list was
red-white-and-blue, I assumed that no one had changed
it yet.

<pause>

You mean it was *brighter* than that? *That* was toned
down?

Anyway, I thought, as I said, that no one had changed
it yet, so. . . 

I'm not Irish, though. ; )




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From cindysphynx at comcast.net  Mon Jul 21 14:20:41 2003
From: cindysphynx at comcast.net (Cindy C.)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:20:41 -0000
Subject: Roll Call
In-Reply-To: <1058309240.644A4A9@s5.dngr.org>
Message-ID: <bfgsrq+6mem@eGroups.com>

Heidi wrote:

> I think we might want to put this on hold until next week, as a 
>lot of people on this list are traveling to orlando, if not there 
>already - so can we not make any final decisions until we're all 
>back?

OK, I'll bet most folks are back now (or will be very soon), so 
maybe we can get started.  I heard from Morgan off-list, so I know 
she is back with the living.

So, er . . . now what?

Cindy




From heidit at netbox.com  Mon Jul 21 14:47:39 2003
From: heidit at netbox.com (Heidi Tandy)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:47:39 -0400
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Roll Call
In-Reply-To: <bfgsrq+6mem@eGroups.com>
References: <bfgsrq+6mem@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1058798863.297D9CF5@w5.dngr.org>

I got home almost 20 minutes ago, but at nim,bus I gathered a lot of new 
material for the legal issues faq. I also think we might want to invite 
susan hall to contribute extensively to the justice in the wizarding 
world one.

I do want to revamp the fanfic faq from top to bottom - the recs are out 
of date in a big way - so if nobody objects I'll run a question on 
ficpicks on otc and post about it on announcements sometime next week.

Other than those two, thoguh, I'm not reading the main list much at the 
moment, as I have a major appeal to do irl for a case, and can't do much 
for the next 3+ weeks while I deal with that.
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:21AM -0500, Cindy C. wrote:
> Real-To:  "Cindy C." <cindysphynx at comcast.net>
>
> Heidi wrote:
>
>>  I think we might want to put this on hold until next week, as a
>> lot of people on this list are traveling to orlando, if not there
>> already - so can we not make any final decisions until we're all
>> back?
>
> OK, I'll bet most folks are back now (or will be very soon), so
> maybe we can get started.  I heard from Morgan off-list, so I know
> she is back with the living.
>
> So, er . . . now what?
>
> Cindy
>
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From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 22 01:34:18 2003
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Bohacek)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 01:34:18 +0000
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Roll Call
Message-ID: <Law8-F90BoE1pbzE3zL00012c9a@hotmail.com>


Cindy Wrote:

>OK, I'll bet most folks are back now (or will be very soon), so
>maybe we can get started.  I heard from Morgan off-list, so I know
>she is back with the living.

>So, er . . . now what?

I'm home, recovering from Nimbus, but still hip to write some FAQ.  I signed 
up to help with the Lupin FAQ team, but I don't exactly know how to start, 
being the newbie that I am.  Did anybody snag that Lupin stuff that Amy Z 
said she had when she made her goodbyes from the FAQ list?  Is that 
something I should have done?

Heidi Said:

>Other than those two, though, I'm not reading the main list much at the
>moment, as I have a major appeal to do irl for a case, and can't do much
>for the next 3+ weeks while I deal with that.

Which Got Me Thinking:

You know, I haven't been reading the main list that much either...and as for 
the past few days, not at all.  I was wondering if that would hamper our 
ability to write our FAQs, our lack of participation on the main list?

Also, since the release of OoP, I've been holding on to some posts that I've 
read.  I wouldn't go as far as to call them "fantastic" but they were 
interesting and thought provoking (at least for me).   How "fantastic" does 
a post have to be to be considered a "Fantastic Post"?

-Gail B...hoping to to add some pics to the photo section

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From thomasmwall at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 22 03:25:05 2003
From: thomasmwall at yahoo.com (Tom Wall)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 03:25:05 -0000
Subject: Eurgh - where'd this color come from?
In-Reply-To: <20030719004307.85598.qmail@web14304.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <bfiaqh+m41j@eGroups.com>

Tom wrote:
...Independence Day theme?
 
Cindy rpelied:
*Independence* Day theme????

<bangs on monitor>

Nope, this thing isn't working at all. I'm getting
Halloween colors for some reason. Don't get me wrong; they're
absolutely lovely. ;-) 

Tom added:
Now I'm confused. It *was* (sort-of) red white and
blue. Now it's definitely orange. So confused...
Derannimer writes:

Oh, see. . . I got Cindy's message in my in-box and
hadn't realized that you had already changed the
colors, Tom; I went over to see if Cindy's decorations
were still up, and to see if they really looked as
hideous as all that. When I saw that the list was
red-white-and-blue, I assumed that no one had changed
it yet.

<pause>

You mean it was *brighter* than that? *That* was toned
down?

Tom replies:
Oh, thank goodness I'm not losing my mind!

Yeah, it was SO much brighter. If you check out the color options, 
be sure to take the third red from the left for the 'left' 
and 'header' sections, and the eighth box (blue) from the right for 
the subheader... and assorted softer reds and blues in between. ;-)
Powerful stuff.

Anyways, I really like the Halloween colors, though, so I say we 
keep 'em.

-Tom




From thomasmwall at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 22 03:52:54 2003
From: thomasmwall at yahoo.com (Tom Wall)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 03:52:54 -0000
Subject: What's our responsibility, anyways?
In-Reply-To: <Law8-F90BoE1pbzE3zL00012c9a@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <bficem+2nuc@eGroups.com>

I was taking a gander through all of the various stuff that's 
connected to the HPfGU portkey, and started to wonder: exactly what 
are we updating, now, anyways?

There's a 'Topical Essay' link from the portkey which tried to take 
me to the old lexicon site and is now invalid - didn't this take us 
to Fantastic Posts before? Does it have something to do with moving 
the servers at all?

There's the VFAQ from the HPfGU admins, which I found at URL: 
http://f2.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/sKgcPw7N7enSr6rCVOdU5DFb8xUbVNanQHFN-
FjvM2xznPTHw1fa2EvKo9HIkk_mmav52sQGS5gcIDSpQBc5OBvaspo/Admin%
20Files/VFAQ.htm

There's 'Fantastic Posts and Where to Find Them,' at: 
http://www.hpfgu.org.uk/faq/

And there's Hypothetic Alley, too, at:
http://www.hpfgu.org.uk/faq/hypotheticalley.html

Reason I ask, is what we have to update depends a lot on what we 
should get to first... should we spend time updating all of the 
existing FAQ's first, or should we get to work on new ones fast? Or 
try to do both? And what about Hypothetic Alley, too? ;-)

-Tom




From abigailnus at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 22 16:34:35 2003
From: abigailnus at yahoo.com (abigailnus)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:34:35 -0000
Subject: Roll Call
In-Reply-To: <bfgsrq+6mem@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bfjp2r+o36q@eGroups.com>


<Small wave>

Hi.  I'm back.  Finished OOP on Sunday and have been slowly reacclimating into 
fandom ever since.  I finally, for example, got to read that A.S. Byatt article everyone's 
so up in arms about.  I also went to the main group website, thinking that I'd at least 
get an idea of what I had to catch up to.

My first clue that I might not be up to the task was the addition of 2000 members in 
less than a month.  Then I checked the message count.  I seem to be about 10,000 
messages behind.

Help.

So, I'm not exactly back.  I'd like to reread the book.  I'd like to get at least an idea of 
the ideas that have been floating on the list.  And, oh yeah, I do still have one last 
final on Thursday which I really ought to prepare for.  

I'm signed up for the Harry FP, which, not at all unexpectedly, is going to have to be 
rethought quite a bit.  At this moment I have no coherent thoughts whatsoever.  
Hopefully by the weekend, as I decompress, I'll get a chance to formulate some ideas.  
Any other Hufflepuffs out there who are ready (or near-ready) to get to work?

Abigail




From susannahlm at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 22 16:36:43 2003
From: susannahlm at yahoo.com (Susannah Myers)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:36:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Roll Call
In-Reply-To: <1058798863.297D9CF5@w5.dngr.org>
Message-ID: <20030722163643.95575.qmail@web14305.mail.yahoo.com>

<Derannimer dutifully raises her hand>

"Here!"

So, guys-who-were-able-to-make-it, how did Nimbus go?
How were the speakers? How was the Shipping panel?
And. . . Gail, did you really storm the karoake bar?

Oh, and btw, Heidi wrote:

> I do want to revamp the fanfic faq from top to
> bottom - the recs are out 
> of date in a big way - so if nobody objects I'll run
> a question on 
> ficpicks on otc and post about it on announcements
> sometime next week.

Ooooh! Ooh!

Plug _1975_! And _The Long Road to Damascus_! And _A
Decoding of the Heart_, even if it *does* freak people
out! And _The Very Secret Diary_!

But. . . 

Er. 

<clears throat>

Yes, sorry. Perhaps it would be best to ask for
recommendations on OTC.



Derannimer

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From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Tue Jul 22 19:44:54 2003
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (David)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:44:54 -0000
Subject: Roll Call
In-Reply-To: <1058798863.297D9CF5@w5.dngr.org>
Message-ID: <bfk47m+nib7@eGroups.com>

Heidi wrote:

> I got home almost 20 minutes ago,

20 minutes!  Heidi, you're slipping.

Cindy:

> > So, er . . . now what?

I'm around but keeping a lowish profile.  Working on a customer site 
most of the time.  I did add a post to the database though (no idea 
about the keywords so I made some up).

David




From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 22 23:23:29 2003
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Bohacek)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:23:29 +0000
Subject: [HP4GU-FAQ] Roll Call - OT Nimbus Tangent
Message-ID: <LAW8-F61xNzFiPNl4iZ0000084e@hotmail.com>

Derannimer Asked:

>So, guys-who-were-able-to-make-it, how did Nimbus go?
>How were the speakers? How was the Shipping panel?
>And. . . Gail, did you really storm the karaoke bar?

Storm the karaoke bar?  Heh...

:: Dressed in black and carrying automatic weapons, the filkers bust into 
Kimono's Sushi Bar.  Several people screamed in terror and a woman fainted 
as they quickly took up strategic positions around the room.  Caius, who 
wore a red beret, jumped upon the stage and wrenched the microphone from the 
young patron who stood there.  "Everybody sing along, and nobody will get 
hurt!" ::

Well...it wasn't quite like that.  We got permission from the manager to 
sing our stuff, but we had competition from the Muggles.  It was noisy, and 
between the chatter of the crowd and the music from the loudspeakers, it was 
hard to hear our own lyrics being sung.  I must admit, that I had more fun 
hanging out in our room with all my fellow filkers, singing acappella.  In 
fact, I would have to say that my whole Nimbus experience was like that.  
Yeah, it was cool, to be at Disney World, and to have all the bells and 
whistles of the convention...but the best thing was to meet all these 
people, see their faces and get to know them live and in person.  I feel bad 
that I wasn't able to spend more time with them...oh, Phyllis!  We never got 
to dance the hustle!

Like Melody, I didn't attend many of lectures.  Lilac told me a little about 
the R/H - H/H Shipping panel, how it got rather heated.  Heh...the R/H 
Shippers had some cool t-shirts printed up....er...Derannimer...you *are* 
R/H, aren't you?   I went to the Snape panel and came to the conclusion that 
the character of Snape is too ambiguous right now to draw any definite 
conclusions about anything.  Saw Lexicon Steve give his presentation with a 
lot of overhead projections, and Dicentra gave one  - TBay style!  But the 
best, best, best speaker that I attended was this John Granger, author of 
"The Hidden Key to Harry Potter: Understanding the Meaning, Genius, and 
Popularity of Joanne Rowling's Harry Potter Novels".  I was unfortunate that 
I was only able to attend the last 15 min. of his speech, but what I heard 
gave me goosebumps...I kid you not!  Especially the bit about alchemy.   If 
you haven't picked up his book yet, I recommend it highly.  You hear that, 
Cindy?

Phyllis is helping to organize a Harry Potter convention in Ottawa in 2004, 
and I met Judy Serenity who really would like to have a convention for HP4GU 
people only.  I think that would be a cool thing!

All in all, Nimbus was a wonderful experience and...man!  The organizers 
(Gwen and Heidi and their crew) really did a lot.  I was impressed.

I'll be posting my photographs next week on OTChatter and I'll tell some 
more stories then, okay?

-Gail B.

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From erisedstraeh2002 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 23 01:12:36 2003
From: erisedstraeh2002 at yahoo.com (Phyllis)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 01:12:36 -0000
Subject: Harry FP and FP Database (WAS: Roll Call)
In-Reply-To: <bfjp2r+o36q@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bfkne4+d655@eGroups.com>

Abigail wrote:

> I'm signed up for the Harry FP, which, not at all unexpectedly, is 
> going to have to be rethought quite a bit.  Any other Hufflepuffs 
> out there who are ready (or near-ready) to get to work?

I'm signed up for the Harry FP also - are we the Hufflepuffs <can't 
remember>?  IIRC, Abigail posted a terrific Harry FP outline awhile 
back - perhaps we could start with that and provide suggested 
changes, deletions and additions based on OoP?

Were there going to be changes made to the database, or should we 
start inputting potential FPs into the existing database?  If so, it 
would be helpful if someone could put together a list of keywords for 
us newbies <any volunteers>?

~Phyllis
who never found Dicey or Judy at Nimbus :-(





From Ali at zymurgy.org  Wed Jul 23 13:07:24 2003
From: Ali at zymurgy.org (Ali)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 13:07:24 -0000
Subject: Harry FP and FP Database (WAS: Roll Call)
In-Reply-To: <bfkne4+d655@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bfm1ac+94c4@eGroups.com>


 Abigail wrote:
 
 I'm signed up for the Harry FP, which, not at all unexpectedly, is 
 going to have to be rethought quite a bit.  Any other Hufflepuffs 
out there who are ready (or near-ready) to get to work?
 
Phyllis replied:

 I'm signed up for the Harry FP also - are we the Hufflepuffs <can't 
 remember?  IIRC, Abigail posted a terrific Harry FP outline awhile 
 back - perhaps we could start with that and provide suggested 
 changes, deletions and additions based on OoP?
 

Sounds great to me. I'm away and then on holiday from Saturday and 
won't really be back until 8 August so I won't be able to do 
anything until after that. I guess alot of other people are going to 
be away over the next few weeks as well aren't they?

Ali

incredibly jealous of anyone who went to Nimbus!




From foxmoth at qnet.com  Mon Jul 28 20:59:36 2003
From: foxmoth at qnet.com (pippin_999)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 20:59:36 -0000
Subject: Roll Call
In-Reply-To: <bfgsrq+6mem@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bg42ro+cb9j@eGroups.com>

Hi,

I've been utterly dormant but I would like to help with the Snape 
or Lupin FAQs if that's needed. Also, one of my elfings inquired 
about the status of the FAQ project...

"- are there any plans to bring the 'fantastic posts' essays up to 
date ? So many of the questions and points in them have now 
been answered, or moved on"

Should I see if she'd like to help?

Pippin
apologizing for having been out of touch so long and not knowing 
exactly what's been happening around here