[HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Carolyn & Maria

[Sheryll Townsend]

 --- "Cindy C." <cindysphynx at comcast.net> wrote: >
Hey,
> 
> Penny:
> 
> > Actually, no.  I'm afraid that's not quite good
> enough.  I don't any
> >one member of this group should have ultimate veto
> power over whether
> >new members are asked to join the group or not.  
> 
> <sigh>
> 
> I don't know if one person has veto power or not
> (and for the record,
> my post wasn't a "veto;" it was a *plea*).  
> 
> But let's review.  If one person has veto power,
> then that is
> consistent with a governing structure of
> "consensus," as a group
> operating under the rules of consensus is powerless
> to override a veto
> (also called a "block").
> 
> If we must vote, then that is consistent with a
> governing structure of
> "democracy."  Majority rules.
> 
> If a group of leaders will decide, then that is
> consistent with a
> governing structure of "benign dictatorship."
> 
> And if anyone can do whatever they want whenever
> they want, then that
> is consistent with a governing structure of
> "anarchy."
> 
> We have no governing structure, we seem to have
> concluded that we
> don't need one, so  . . . . I dunno.
> 
Don't want to go into this again. We can talk
ourselves in circles on this one. I really don't
understand why you are so intent on putting how we do
things into a specific category, Cindy.
>  
> > So......Amanda, Sheryll ----- is Michelle still
> interested?  Would
> >you like to state why you believe that she *should*
> be invited to the
> >group?  Then, we can have a vote, and majority
> rules IMHO.  
> 
> FWIW, I heard nothing from Michelle about my letter
> to her.  I would
> have no objection if folks would like to make the
> case on her behalf,
> although I think it would be *really* keen if
> Michelle wrote to us
> directly.
> 
Am really not surprised you heard nothing from
Michelle. Summarily tossing her out likely hurt her
feelings a great deal. As I stated in my last email,
she's been having internet troubles lately and
apparently can't access email.
>  
> > So, are there prior messages about this Maria that
> I've missed then?
>  >Yahoomort perhaps?  All I've seen is a notation
> that she is pending.
>  >Did someone nominate her and make a case for her
> candidacy?
> 
> 
> I hope I'm not misunderstanding you, Penny, but I
> was referring to a
> few people who have asked to join us over the last
> months and not
> received responses.  
> 
> Let me explain.  When I was leading the FAQ list, I
> kept track of any
> such inquiries (and other administrative "To-Do"
> items) and made sure
> we dealt with them (or dealt with them myself if
> that was
> appropriate).  I no longer keep such a list, and the
> only way I could
> compile one now would be to go back and comb the FAQ
> archives.
> 
> Perhaps someone should do that to make sure we
> didn't miss anyone or
> any other administrative issues?  We'd probably
> better review the
> archives through March, just to be safe, as I can't
> be certain that I
> didn't miss something due to the upheaval this
> spring.
> 
>  
> > Frankly, I don't think anything was ever really
> decided about this
> >whole nomination and invitation process.  I think
> it's a good idea
> >for there to be a "No Unilateral Action" policy
> that applies, of
> >course, to *both* invitations and removals of
> members.    
> 
> I think we have such a policy, although I can't
> agree that if one
> member violates the "No Invitations" rule that no
> one can restore the
> status quo.
> 
> Thankfully, God is truly merciful and heaven has
> blessed us such that
> this question is *totally* academic now.  I suspect
> no one on this
> list will make the mistake of firing off an
> unauthorized invitation to
> this list again.  I see no reason to dredge all of
> this up, myself,
> and I think it will just lead to more fireworks on
> this list.  
> 
Since no one has offered to comb the archives, I'll do
it. It might take me a couple days, but I'll look
through them and see whose names have come up as
interested in joining the team. 

Sheryll

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