Quidditch FAQ - Draft
Ali
Ali at zymurgy.org
Sun Feb 1 17:02:32 UTC 2004
I've decided to post this now. It's not as finished as I would like,
but I've managed to lose an entire paper draft that had loads of
alterations on it, and I'm not a happy bunny!
I've got mock exams next week, and then 2 weeks after that. So,
realistically, I won't have much more time for this until my course
finishes in mid-May.
I would be grateful if people would start to look at it. Maybe,
people will decide it's ready for editing, maybe you won't! I am
aware that there are some message numbers missing. Unfortunately,
some of these messages were on Neil's original FAQ, and I haven't
got the details. I will ask him if he has them though.
There are only very small sections on Oliver Wood and Krum. It might
be better to leave these out altogether. In time perhaps there could
be a minor character FAQ? The strategy section could probably be
expanded. That's one of my missing alterations.
Anyhow, have a read and see what you think.
Ali
Quidditch FAQ
Contents
Introduction
The Quidditch metaphor
A skeletal history
Harry and the role of Quidditch
Quidditch: the game
Could Quidditch work?
Strategy
Has there ever been a Quidditch match where the snitch was not
caught? Y1726
Gender representation 4309
Quidditch attire and accoutrements
Quidditch at Hogwarts
How many Quidditch Games are played?
How are the House teams chosen?
The first-year rule
Do the flying lessons continue beyond the first year? Y669
When did Gryffindor last win the House Cup? Quidditch Cup and House
Cup
How does the Quidditch Cup contribute to the House Cup?
Who won the Quidditch cup in Harry's first year?
The Gryffindor Team (PS/SS through to PoA)
Draco on Slytherin team
The Quidditch World Cup
Some Quidditch Personalities -
Oliver Wood
Victor Krum
Discussions concluded by the publication of OoP
Lack of Quidditch in Year 4 4073 Captains new players
Will Ron Weasley ever get a chance to play? Y669:
Introduction
Quidditch is the sport of the wizarding world, creating a fervour
and loyalty equal to that of any Muggle sport.
The game is played on broomsticks with seven players per team
battling out with a variety of balls to score points. The game ends
when one Seeker catches the Golden Snitch.
JKR invented Quidditch as
"I wanted a sport for wizards, and I'd always wanted to see a game
where there was more than one ball in play at a time" (JKR in
Amazon.Co.UK interview).
"Because sport is such an important part of life at school"
(Scholastic, October 2000)
Harry loves Quidditch and it seems central to both his life and to
the Wizarding World in general. Yet, despite this, relatively few of
our posts have been devoted to this them and it certainly seems to
lack the passion and ambiguity necessary to really captivate HPfGU
posters.
Much of the early discussion on Quidditch has effectively been
overtaken by the publication of the Hogwart's schoolbook "Quidditch
Through the Ages" in March 2001. This book tells us much of the
basic rules of Quidditch, the historic origins of the game and the
Quidditch League (for Britain and Ireland). Later discussions have
now been overtaken by the release of OoP. This document therefore
serves as a historic record of what was discussed, and how close we
were.
Debbie has researched Quidditch [48192 and 88055] as "a Metaphor
for the struggle against Voldemort and the players role in the
fight; moreover, the Quidditch sequences appear to foreshadow
subsequent events". This concept will be considered first, followed
by sections on the role of Quidditch for Harry in particular,
together with a discussion of the game itself A discussion of
Quidditch at Hogwarts will follow. The FAQ will finish with a look
at some of the finished debates.
The Quidditch Metaphor
In Debbie's essay, "The Quidditch Metaphor", Debbie suggests that
Quidditch serves a variety of purposes a setting for plot
developments, a diversion, or, a metaphor for the struggle against
Voldemort". She further suggests that the matches themselves
foreshadow the Voldemort struggle.
Debbie highlights the parallel of seeker and Harry, comparing his
real life to his on-pitch role. The seeker is solitary, team mates
provide the support, but ultimately, the seeker is the probably
match-winner and must catch the snitch alone, just as Harry is
supported by Ron and Hermione, but ultimately wins each battle by
himself. Debbie also points out that the best seeker is a team
player, again, as Harry have demonstrated on pitch and off.
In terms of Quidditch foreshadowing the books themes, in OoP, Harry
is banned from Quidditch. Ginny takes over Harry's role. Ginny is of
course the one other person who has been possessed by Voldemort and
thus can explain to him the feeling of being possessed which greatly
worries him at different points in the book. In OoP Harry does not
play seeker. He does seek to rescue Sirius, but his reasoning is
flawed, and unwittingly leads to Sirius' death, the very thing he
was trying to rescue Sirius from. Harry also does not carry out his
solitary seeking role at the climax of the book. This time he is
saved by Dumbledore.
Debbie's comments on the keeper remain pertinent after OoP, even the
terminology of stopping a goal "save", borrowed from football
showing the keeper as the last line of defence. Are Debbie's words
going to be prophetic "Perhaps the new keeper
will be called upon to
choose whether to save himself (or herself) or to sacrifice to allow
Harry to continue the quest to defeat Voldemort". The keeper is of
course, Ron and it has long been debated whether Ron will choose to
sacrifice himself in the final battle as he choose to do in the
chess scene in the Philosopher's Stone.
A Skeletal history of Quidditch
The name "Quidditch" is a corruption of "Queerditch Marsh" where
Gertie Keddle observed and wrote about this game played on
broomsticks. Goodwin later discussed the game at a time when there
was a "catcher" and a "Blooder" - Modern day equivalents
being "chaser" and "bludger". At that time there was no seeker and
no golden snitch. Bowman Wright of Godrics Hollow [an ancestor of
Harry's?] invented the Golden Snitch, to replace the Golden Snidget
bird which had first been released at a Quidditch match when
Barberus Bragge placed 150 galleons on the head of the Snidget. This
is the origin of the 150 points award for the snitch [QTTA p 14].
The Professional League in Britain is made up of 20 teams coming
from different parts of the British Isles. This arguably points to a
Wizarding World in which, the RL boundaries within the British Isles
are not recognised. However, this is not entirely the case as
Ireland and England compete as different Nations in the World Cup.
Harry and the role of Quidditch
There have been suggestions that Harry is a descendant of Bowman
Wright, the Snitch inventor. This is based on the fact that Lily and
James's cottage was in Godric Hollow, home to Bowman Wright, and the
fact that James' wealth was inherited. The assumption here is that
the snitch invention could have given the Potters a family fortune.
There is also the hypothesis that Harry's Quidditch talent is
inherited James was a talented Quidditch player, and it is
possible that Harry comes from a long line of talented people.
Harry has had fame thrust upon him and he lacks confidence. Hagrid
and the Wizarding World might have sprung him from his childhood
prison, but Harry dislikes being a "famous name", uncomfortable with
the celebrity status which Snape taunts him about.
Quidditch is very important to Harry and so for the reader, for two
fundamental reasons. Firstly, understanding and even obsessing over
Quidditch is a way to show he belongs to the WW. His support of the
Chudley Canons, a mediocre team, rather than the fashionable
Tornados, perhaps seals his original bond of friendship with Ron,
the first person who really seems to have accepted him as an equal.
Thus, with his Quidditch team support, the reader can see the
importance Harry places on friendship..
Secondly, Harry is good at Quidditch, very good. In the words of
Professor McGonagall
"The boy's a natural. I've never seen anything like it." P. 112 PS
UK edition.
Harry is not a natural scholar. He carries the burden of fame for a
past he cannot remember, and constantly zigzags between fame and
infamy. Yet, with flying, with Quidditch, he feels he can justify
his famous name:
"In a rush of fierce joy he realised he'd found something he could
do without being taught this was easy, this was wonderful".
Harry doesn't really believe that he has any strengths, but
"What was he best at? Well, that was easy, really
"Quidditch" he said" GoF p.301
When Harry flew in the first task in GoF,
"He realised that he had left not only the ground behind, but also
his fear
he was back where he belonged
" p.310
Thus, Quidditch allows Harry to justify his fame to himself but it
also allows him to forget it and all his worries.
In contrast to his school work, Harry does work hard in Quidditch,
he practices hard and reads up about the theory, showing that when
Harry is dedicate to something, he can apply himself.
Harry's Quidditch talent is recognised and encouraged by his adult
mentors. Rules are broken to allow him to play Quidditch in the
first year and to have his own broom. The gift of the Firebolt
allows Harry to realise his talent more fully than if he had to
continue with a slower Cleansweep, like Ron.
Quidditch also gives Harry a link to his dead father, James who was
a good Quidditch player. When Sirius gives Harry the Firebolt, it
somehow connects Harry to the life he might have had with his
father and godfather -to one of his most enjoyable past times now,
Quidditch.
Of course, because Quidditch is so important to Harry, JKR
constantly deprives him of it:
In CoS, Quidditch is cancelled because of the Basilisk menace. In
GoF there is no Quidditch season because of the Tri-Wizard
tournament, and of course, Umbridge knowing what Quidditch means to
Harry, gives him a lifelong ban in OoP. In PoA, Harry's enjoyment of
Quidditch is threatened until he can gain mastery over the
Dementors.
To date, Harry has never truly been beaten in Quidditch. When
Hufflepuff won in PoA, it was because Harry was facing the
Dementors. Arguably, despite his lack of attention at that point,
Cedric would not have won if the Dementors (and Sirius) and had
diverted Harry's attention.
Despite Harry's ability, he seems never to have considered Quidditch
as a post-Hogwarts Career. Perhaps this is because he knows that
Quidditch can only ever be a diversionary hobby, but JKR has chosen
not to explain this.
With Umbridge removed, it would seem likely that Harry's lifelong
ban has been lifted. Now, we must wonder will Harry ever be captain
of the Gryffindor team and will he ever be beaten?
Quidditch the game:
Could Quidditch work?
There has been discussion about whether Quidditch could
actually "work". Ali felt that Quidditch was really 2 games roughly
meshed together and questioned whether there was cohesiveness to the
game [47806]. Tim felt that there were too many balls to work
[47807]. Although this was the concept that actually drove JKR to
invent the game (Amazon.Co.UK interview).
On the other hand, Bboy [47809] believes " it is the dangers of
stock car racing, sky diving, bungie jumping, motocross and high
speed aerial combat, combined with the skill and strategy of any
typical muggle team ball/puck type sport
playable s
Several posters have felt that 150 points for catching the snitch
threatens the legitimacy of the game [47815 and 47916] as the snitch
and seekers role overshadow the rest of the game to such a great
extent. James [47832] countered this by theorising that in
Professional Quidditch, the point difference of 150 might not be
that great. He queried the comparative length of the Hogwarts
matches with those in the League, deciding that greater talent must
be the driving force. This view is challenged by Ali [47829] who
asks where the Professional teams get their players from if it isn't
Hogwarts. This is based on the oft-disputed statement that Hogwarts
is the only Wizarding school in Britain [see interview ?] Ali
suggests that the Professional League is kept afloat by foreign
players. Alexander disagrees believing it to be additional evidence
that there is more than one school despite JKR's word.
Catlady [133] wondered how big a wizarding population is required to
have enough players for all the professional/semi-professional
Quidditch teams and to provide the associated financial support.
Acting on the suggestion that there are 20 teams in the British
Quidditch league, she proposed a low end guess of 200 active
professional Quidditch players and pointed out that this estimate
exceeds the apparent number of Quidditch players leaving Hogwarts
each year.
Joywitch referred to the teams of other countries and repeated her
earlier (Y6031, Chapter 5 summary) comment that tiny
Luxembourg "somehow has enough athletic witches and wizards for a
world-class Quidditch team capable of beating JKR's Scotland."
This, she asserts, is stretching logic. Ellen the Beekeeper [246]
proposed that Luxembourg is rich enough to hire the best players and
Catlady [304] reminded us that just seven good players or seven good
brooms would be enough to sweep the board at the World Cup. In fact,
as Luxembourg's population is 500,000, and Scotland's is 5.1
million, it is possible for Luxembourg to have a stronger team. This
is perhaps a similar ratio to England and New Zealand. Despite the
size differences, New Zealand has a superior rugby team.
Strategy
See 2627. Cho's Comet could not match Harry's Firebolt, so she just
followed his coattails
to see if she could get to the snitch that
way. Simon thinks this would be a stupid stratagem, since the
person with the slower broom would have to be in front of Harry in
order to block his access to the Snitch [otherwise, he would easily
reach it first]. Alternatively, they would have to be searching for
the Snitch elsewhere, rather than trailing Harry. [2660].
Has there ever been a Quidditch match where the snitch was not
caught? Y1726
Dave H suggests that maybe Quidditch has an equivalent to the "Fifty
Move Rule" in chess, so that if the snitch is not caught within a
certain time, the game is automatically drawn [or based on the score
at that point]. [1766] Smitster1 pointed out an interview with JKR
in which she said that a game can last indefinitely and only ends
when the snitch is caught. [1867 for URL of clip?]. In PS, Wood
tells Harry that a "game of Quidditch can go on for ages I think
the record is three months, they had to keep bringing on substitutes
so the players could get some sleep" p. 125. There is no canon to
decide whether Hogwarts operates a truncated school version of
Quidditch.
Gender representation
Professor Nellup [4309] commented on how well females were
represented in Quidditch and on the fact that it was a unisex sport,
something almost unknown in Muggle team sports. She gave the
examples of Cho Chang, the Ravenclaw chaser, and in the World Cup in
GoF, two of the three chasers - Mullet and Moran. In fact, when
Ginny joins the Gryffindor team in OoP over half the Gryffindor team
are females, this is in contrast to the Slytherin team which seems
to be always male . It is interesting to note that the Weasleys, who
are in many ways our benchmark of fair-minded wizards actually have
many prejudices, and amongst these are allowing little sisters to
play Quidditch. Ginny learned by borrowing her brothers brooms, they
did not let her play with them.
Quidditch attire and accoutrements
Quidditch robes? And hats
Jen P suggests "some synthetic fabric meant to be more aerodynamic
and light". 2055
As to what is worn under the robes, at one point, we see Harry
putting on a t-shirt under his Quidditch robes, but this could be
underwear or outerwear, according to Catlady. Do the players wear
jeans or boxer shorts underneath? [3217] JoAnna refers to p110 of
SS, when Harry and Ron "took off their jackets and pulled on their
long black robes." This supports the idea that Quidditch robes are
worn over ordinary clothes. [3225]. The team certainly seem to get
changed together again supporting the idea that they do not have to
undress in forn of each other.
Catlady wondered whether Quidditch hats - with team logos etc - are
the same as the pointed witch hats worn otherwise. [5399]. She also
wondered whether the hats worn by the players would fall off during
play and noted that the robes could be cumbersome during play.
[5400].
Quidditch at Hogwarts
How many Quidditch Games are played?
Steve Bboy [50570] thought that as there is no mention of Harry
attending matches he does not play in, that the Quidditch Cup must
be won after elimination rounds. Other posters pointed out that the
Potterverse is "Harrycentric" and there is little time to see things
in his peripheral vision. The consensus [Torsten, 50630 and Scott
50636] is that 6 games are played, each house playing each other
once.
How are the House teams chosen?
Is the selection left to the Professor in charge of the house or are
there "tryouts" each year? Penny [Y669] notes that in CoS, Harry
was worried that he might lose his place as Seeker because he hadn't
practiced in 2 months - could McGonagall have replaced him if he
hadn't made the grade? In PS it is stated that there will be House
Quidditch trials. [670].
This question appears to be answered in OoP.
Angelina holds trials for the Goalkeeper position that Oliver Wood
had just vacated. Angelina chooses Ron, not because he's the best,
but because he's the best team player. Later on, after Harry, Fred
and George are expelled from the team, trials are again held. But,
it seems very likely that McGonagall would be able to throw someone
off the team if she felt that they did not come up to scratch. She
threatens Angelina with removing her captaincy after Angelina's
outburst at Harry in the Great Hall [p. 285]
The first-year rule
There is a rule that first year students are not allowed their own
broomsticks at Hogwarts (p. 53 PS ). It is slightly less clear
whether this means that First years are not ordinarily allowed to
play on the House Quidditch team .Draco complains that first years
never get on the first team, (p. 107 PS) but this could be because
the rule prohibiting them from using their own brooms all but rules
them out of the teams because the school brooms are so slow. When
McGonagall talks to Dumbledore about bending the rules in Harry's
case it could be either to allow Harry to own his own broom or be on
the House Team. Professor Flitwick later refers to the "special
circumstances [670], again not clarifying what the rule is.
Do the flying lessons continue beyond the first year? Y669
Flying lessons are only mentioned once, so people have often
questioned whether students carry on these lessons passed the first
year, perhaps Harry is exempt because he's obviously mastered the
basics. But, we are never told, and we never hear whether Hermione
and Neville managed to improve their broomstick skills.
When did Gryffindor last win the House Cup? Quidditch Cup and House
Cup
In PoA, Wood says Gryffindor haven't won the Quidditch Cup for seven
years, (p. 108) In PS, Fred says that Gryffindor haven't won the cup
since Charlie Weasley left p. 114 PS, presumably meaning that
Gryffindor hadn't won the Quidditch cup for the 5 years preceding
Harry starting at Hogwarts. Y5349 & Y5352. However, when Harry goes
to the end of term feast in PS, the Great Hall is decked in green
and silver to celebrate the fact that Slytherin had won the House
cup for the seventh year in a row. Thus, it would seem that in
Charlie's final year, Gryffindor won the Quidditch cup, but
Slytherin won the House cup.
Stephanie75 [4973] wondered how Slytherin won the House Cup six
years in a row? If they haven't won the Quidditch Cup in those
years, where are they getting the points? Cheating? Catlady thought
that Slytherin did win the Quidditch Cup all those years but was
still puzzled by the implication in PoA that Slytherin started their
winning streak in the Quidditch Cup one year before their winning
streak of the House Cup [5039]. Milz suggested that the other
Houses had lost more points than Slytherin, leaving them in a
stronger position for the House Cup [4975].
During a discussion about the Weasley boys' ages, Milz pointed out
the importance of Harry being the youngest Quidditch player in 100
years; this was evidence that Charlie Weasley must have been at
least a second year student when he began playing for Gryffindor.
Penny said she had the impression that Charlie Weasley had given
Gryffindor the Quidditch Cup several years running, and the last
time they had won it before PoA was in his final year at Hogwarts
How does the Quidditch Cup contribute to the House Cup?
It seems that it does. When Harry loses 50 points in PS/SS, he
thinks that this will wipe out the lead he had just won in
Quidditch. Gryffindor won the House cup in PoA, thanks largely to
their spectacular performance in Quidditch. We are not told the
exact correlation of Quidditch points to House Points. Whatever the
correlation, Gryffindor Quidditch tactics have always been to secure
wins, not maximise the House point score.
Who won the Quidditch cup in Harry's first year?
We aren't told who won the Quidditch Cup since Harry missed the last
match, but Penny suggested that it would be whichever House was
second to Gryffindor in the Quidditch matches; probably Slytherin
since they were ahead in terms of House points in the race for House
Cup and we can suppose that winning the Quidditch Cup yields a high
number of points for the House who wins it. Penny suggests that
Quidditch success secures points towards the House Cup, either
accumulating points through individual matches won or through a set
number of points being Quidditch champions. Kelley added that
McGonagall tells the kids she's going to deduct 50 points. from
Gryffindor, and Harry thinks "They would lose the lead, the lead
he'd won in the last Quidditch match.". p. 178 PS Maybe the
winning team gets the amount of points they score in the game added
to their House points.
Succession planning and reserve teams
The Potterverse is unclear, but there is no evidence of succession
planning in the Gryfindor team. Whilst Alicia Spinnet was on the
reserve team prior to Harry joining, it seems very likely that this
team never reformed. When Harry is in the hospital wing at the end
of PS/SS, the team suffered its worst defeat for 300 years. Melanie
Ravenclawlady [1498], asked whether the team continued without a
seeker, whether there was an alternative, or whether one of the
existing team members switched positions. Arguably, whatever they
did, the team's spirit was diminished by the risk to Harry's life
and so they failed to play effectively.
The Gryffindor were wholly unprepared for losing their beaters and
seeker after Fred, George and Harry received lifelong bans. Whilst
their ban could not have been anticipated, their incapacitation
probably could have been. More trials had to be held, again
emphasising the lack of obvious reserves.
This succession planning seems a weakness in teambuilding and is in
contrast to professional level Quidditch as we know that Oliver Wood
was selected to play for the Puddlemere United reserve team (p. 78
GoF).
FFA wanted to know why there wasn't a team for each year in the
school [1488]. The Gryffindor team hadn't changed at all in the
first three years that Harry was seeker, there was then no Quidditch
for a year. It could be to provide some reinforcement of the
identities of the team members across the first three books. FFA
also raised the fact that there are only about 40 pupils per year
and about 70 per House, so perhaps they can only summon up one team
per House. [1509]
The Gryffindor Team (PS/SS through to PoA)
Keeper and Captain: Oliver Wood -left
Chaser : Angelina Johnson
Chaser : Alicia Spinnet
Chaser : Katie
Beater : George Weasley
Beater : Fred Weasley
Seeker : Harry Potter
Draco on Slytherin team
There is an inference that Draco only got into the Slytherin team
because Lucius bought brooms for the players [2967]. But, this is
not really supported by canon. The Slytherin team seems second to
Gryffindor in CoS and PoA. In OoP, they actually lose 2 of their 3
matches, but that could be because of the weakness of the other
players (eg Crabbe and Goyle) rather than Malfoy himself. Malfoy may
have bought himself onto the team, but he does seem to be a
relatively effective player, just not a true opponent for Harry at
least not yet.
The Quidditch World Cup
Jen P. sums up Chapter 8, "The Quidditch World Cup [428]the chapter
devoted to the only Quidditch action in GoF: a match between Ireland
and Bulgaria. We meet the team mascots - Leprechauns and Veela and
the star Bulgarian Seeker, Viktor Krum. "Over the next few (many?)
pages, we're treated to spectacular Quidditch moves, special effects
from the omnioculars (nose-picking again and again and again, slow-
motion gone wrong, etc), and rude gestures from the opposing teams'
mascots. Catlady notes that this is fast-paced Quidditch of a level
that Harry had never seen before.
Krum eventually captures the snitch, even though Bulgaria is down by
160 points and it's not going to win them the game. Fred and George
Weasley had bet some money on this happening and Kathleen MacMillan
wondered how they managed to predict such an odd outcome: perhaps a
few sessions with Professor Trelawney? Although Harry assumes that
Krum caught the Snitch to retain some semblance of pride, Catlady
points out that this is only Harry's assumption and also suggests
that the twins had studied team form in placing their bet [538].
Catlady also suggests that all the players on the Irish team must
have attended Hogwarts, and finds it strange that McGonagall had not
mentioned any of them. Simon responded that perhaps there is
another wizarding school in), or that maybe the Irish players were
in Houses other than Gryffindor and spread over several school
years. [581].
6031 (Chap 5 summary) Joywitch points out that tiny
Luxembourg "somehow has enough athletic witches and wizards for a
world-class Quidditch team capable of beating JKR's native
Scotland.". However, when you consider that Luxembourg has one
twentieth of Scotland's population, it would be possible for
Luxembourg to be better, just as New Zealand tend to be better than
England at rugby despite their smaller pool from which to attract
players.
Some Quidditch personalities
Oliver Wood
Catlady imagines that Wood is a "nice, sincere, committed guy" and
imagines having a conversation with him, in which she tries to get
his one-track mind off the topic off Quidditch and on to global
warming! [2841]
After Hogwarts, Oliver Wood signs to Puddlemere United reserve team.
7630 Ch 7 summary
Marcus Flint
The Slytherin Captain had to repeat a year, according to an
interview with JKR, but 4972 suggests that she just forgot that he
would have left. At the end of CoS, when Flint is meant to be taking
his NEWTs, Harry's exams are cancelled, so perhaps all exams were
cancelled and Flint was forced to return the following year to take
them. 5458 Simon.
Later editions show Flint in the 5th year in PS, 6th year in CoS and
7th year in PoA. This had had two effects. Firstly, it shows us that
JKR's interviews cannot always be treated as "canon" as sometimes
she simply has to think on her feet and cover up minor
inconsistencies. Secondly, it has led to the coining of the term
a "Flint" which is now used by list members of HPfGU to point out
perceived inconsistencies in the Potterverse.
Viktor Krum
Catlady [7340] raised the possibility that Krum was bewitched to
play great Quidditch, based on the contrast between his "clumsy and
graceless walk" and his "perfect broom-flying". Jim Ferer thought
that if it were possible to use magic in this way, there would
hardly be a need for Hogwarts [7361] Vicki thought that Krum was
just "shy and basically insecure" with one major talent - his
Quidditch playing - which he regards as "a freak talent". [7399]
Questions concluded by the publication of QTTA:Aren't broomsticks
uncomfortable? see QTTA for cushion charm
Well, yes. Scott 6113. Ouch! Vicki noted that JKR had never
mentioned that the brooms had seats and suggested that
they "magically disperse the force along your whole legs, instead of
just in your groin area". Otherwise, the boys would find the brooms
a particularly rough ride and "would never grow up to reproduce".
[6179]
Dee [6154] thought it was unlikely that the girls in HP ride `side-
saddle,' whereas in "Bedknobs and Broomsticks" witches were expected
to "be a lady" and do just that.
Discussions concluded by the publication of OoP
Lack of Quidditch in Year 4 4073 Captains new players
Several members bemoaned the lack of Quidditch in Harry's 4th year,
due to the Triwizard Tournament. Simon 4106 commented that this
also put off the question of who would be the new Quidditch
captains, since there were at least three vacancies. He suggests
that Harry would be a good candidate for captain of Gryffindor in
Book 5. FFA thought this would be one glory too many and proposed
Angelina Johnson as captain.
Ebony suggests that the twins should co-captain, or that one of the
three chasers should be captain. 6051. Catlady suggests that the
twins should co-captain [6045] Ebony also suggests that Dean and
Seamus could become Chasers, if Angelina has left the school in
Book 5. Draco might be made captain of Slytherin in Book 5, and
perhaps Cho Chang will be captain of Ravenclaw.
.6045 Dean Thomas, being a fan of West Ham soccer team, was
suggested as a replacement for Oliver Wood as Gryffindor Keeper.
Jim Ferer pointed out that Wood was stocky, like a hockey goalie,
and that either of the twins, who are also stocky, would make a good
Keeper. In fact, Ron who is gangily played keeper. He was not the
best, and suffered badly from lack of confidence, but showed his
competence in the final match.
Someone suggested that the Creevey brothers might turn out to be
fairly good players and Ginny has been suggested. of course, Ginny
proved herself to be a competent player in OoP and may reach greater
heights in Books 6 and 7 once she changes position.
Will Ron Weasley ever get a chance to play? Y669:
In PS, the Mirror of Erised revealed that it was Ron's greatest
desire to be Captain of the Gryffindor Quidditch team and he is
obsessed with the game in general. Bedroom quote
Ebony proposes that Ron is made Keeper of Gryffindor House team in
Book 5. [6051] Penny thought Ron would get his chance when the
twins and some of the chasers leave. Mike Gray [6376] suggested
that Ron would get to be Keeper and Captain of the team, because he
is good at chess, which requires "planning, insight, thinking ahead,
laying out a strategy". He might join as a "second-string" player
and surprise everyone by pointing out a brilliant strategy. This
might still happen as the captaincy is once again open. Katie
Spinnet and Harry are the most experienced players, but Harry did
not play for much of the year through hot-headed Quidditch related
behaviour which may rule him out of contention, although he
successfully led the DA.
Jen [6074] thought Ron should be a Beater and have one of the twins
take over from Wood as Keeper, but Ebony thought the twins should
not be split up as they were "like a pair of human Bludgers
themselves" (Oliver Wood).
Danemead [6393] was worried that if Ron played on the Quidditch team
Voldemort might be better able to cause injury to Harry's `wheezy'.
In eGroups Jinx noted that Ron has never played A-side Quidditch
before [4945]. Captains need to be among the older more experienced
players. Catlady said that when Cedric was introduced, he was said
to be Hufflepuff's new Seeker and new Captain, which really made her
question why a new team member would be chosen as Captain. [5037].
Amanda proposed that Cedric was on the team already and moved to
Seeker, rather than being completely new to the team [5047].
Simon thought Ron's predicament could be part of a vicious cycle
[4865]. He does not have a good enough broom so is not good enough
to get onto the team. Because he is not good enough to get on the
team he cannot justify asking his parents for a better broom. So he
cannot get on the team. Although Ron isn't too proud to borrow a
broom for tryouts, Catlady thinks he avoids trying out because he
believes that his parents don't have enough money to buy him a
decent broom even if he did get on the team.
In a sense this argument was supported by JKR as Ron chooses a new
broom as his reward for being a prefect. This in turn enables him to
try for the keeper position something that his lack of confidence
might never have allowed him without the talisman of a new broom.
[When Ginny becomes seeker after Harry's ban, it would seem unlikely
that she had a new broom, but does not seem to need the emotional
crutch that the new broom gave Ron. It does beg the question though,
what kind of broom Ginny must have had to allow her to play
competently surely the school brooms were insufficient?
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