From neilward at flyingfordanglia.yahoo.invalid Thu Nov 1 03:16:32 2001 From: neilward at flyingfordanglia.yahoo.invalid (Neil Ward) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 03:16:32 -0000 Subject: ADMIN: All movie-related posts go to our new list Message-ID: <9rqeqg+6i13@...> cc: Announcements/OT Chatter Hi everyone, Yeah, I'm still doing the rounds in this shiny uniform. Look: I've even put my hair in a beehive, all special, like... ****ALL MOVIE DISCUSSIONS GO TO OUR NEW MOVIE LIST All Saint's Day (that's the 1st November) is the official launch date for our new offshoot list for discussion of the Harry Potter movie. Depending on your time zone, we're there or almost there, so please move ALL your movie messages to:- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-Movie ...or get there via the floo network from this lovely log-cabin fireplace that John set up: www.hpfgu.org.uk/movie ****A FEW POINTS TO CONSIDER 1. Tabouli was right to point out that the release dates for the first film are staggered, with some countries not launching until well into 2002, incidentally. That was another factor that had to be considered in deciding where to discuss it. It seemed easier to avoid an entire list than to worry about whether someone would inadvertently spoil in a post to the main list. 2. You may wish to join HPFGU-Movie ahead of time and set yourself to "Only special announcements" (same as webview/"no emails" but you get important ADMIN messages as e-mails) until you have had a chance to see the film; or to Digests, which you can attempt to leave unopened in your in-box. If you join and set yourself to receive individual emails, please bear in mind that every message posted there will have the potential to spoil. 3. We're asking posters to the new movie list to continue using spoilers on anything that might spoil the film for others, *up to and including the day of 16th November*. After 16th November, we'll assume that anyone taking part in discussions on that list is discussing a film they have already seen and that spoiler space is not, therefore, necessary. 4. The ADMIN files that apply to this list also apply on the movie list. 5. If you post movie-related stuff to OT Chatter or Announcements after 16th November, please use spoiler space when appropriate. "HPFGU-Movie is a non-smoking list. Please extinguish all smoking materials. Yes sir, that does include your beard!" Thanks! Neil _____________________ Flying Ford Anglia Mechanimagus Moderator Question? MagicalMods at yahoogroups.com From Calypso8604 at calypso8604.yahoo.invalid Sun Nov 4 00:25:02 2001 From: Calypso8604 at calypso8604.yahoo.invalid (Calypso) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 00:25:02 -0000 Subject: The Marauder Chronicles - Chapter 2 Message-ID: <9s21su+7nv6@...> Hello, this email is just to let you know that chapter 2 of The Marauder Chronicles is now up on Schnoogle.com URL: http://www.schnoogle.com/authorLinks/Calypso/The_Marauder_Chronicles/ Chapter 2 is centered solely on Lupin and his werewolf problem the summer before he is supposed to go to Hogwarts. ~ Calypso From blpurdom at blpurdom.yahoo.invalid Sun Nov 4 22:46:21 2001 From: blpurdom at blpurdom.yahoo.invalid (Barb) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 22:46:21 -0000 Subject: Chapter 6 of ToGI (Psychic Serpent sequel) Message-ID: <9s4gft+u0op@...> The latest chapter of the sequel the Harry Potter and the Psychic Serpent is up at schnoogle.com: Harry Potter and the Time of Good Intentions Chapter 6 Slouching Toward London In which Harry plays Quidditch as a Slytherin, gets used to having a new girlfriend, recalls what happened to Remus, worries about Draco Malfoy touching his sister, and prepares to go to London to look for Hermione. Go to: http://www.schnoogle.com/authors/barb/TOGI06.html Enjoy! --Barb From mlpmama at mlpmama.yahoo.invalid Mon Nov 5 07:07:56 2001 From: mlpmama at mlpmama.yahoo.invalid (mlpmama at mlpmama.yahoo.invalid) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 07:07:56 -0000 Subject: Shameless plugging! Message-ID: <9s5dsc+1u2v@...> In its worst incarnation, nonetheless. I've written a very lengthy HP story. If you're the sort of person who reads anything, good for you. If not, scroll through the spoiler space after the links to discover a summary and pairings. They're both rated R for language and adult situations. When All is Said and Done (finished): http://www.fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=232756 Small Packages (sequel to WAiSaD, still in progress): http://www.fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=409463 Both can also be found in the files section of my e-group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WAiSaD T H I S W O U L D B E T H E S P O I L E R S P A C E That should do it. "When All is Said and Done" begins with a Voldemort/good guys show down. A few people die. WAiSaD deals with the aftermath of that. Pairings in WAiSaD are Ginny/Draco, Harry/Hermione, Fred/Angelina, George/Alicia, Ron/?(I'm not giving this away that easily. Read it.) "Small Packages" is the sequel, and while I'm calling Ron and his love interest its stars, it has all the other people in it, too. Also, McGonagall as a horribly bitter cat. Please, please, please... Read and review. ~ Sara, AKA The Glitterpixie From pennylin at plinsenmayer.yahoo.invalid Tue Nov 6 04:53:08 2001 From: pennylin at plinsenmayer.yahoo.invalid (Penny & Bryce) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 22:53:08 -0600 Subject: ADMIN: Reminders re: HP4GU Community Message-ID: <3BE76CB4.2000501@...> Hi everyone -- It seems that we may need a reminder about the overall structure of the greater HP4GU community (sounds like I'm talking about a large metro area, doesn't it?). HP4GU (HPforGrownups) has several sister groups that you should know about: 1. MOVIE -- Anything relating to the MOVIE(s) should go *only* to our HP4GU-MOVIE list. No MOVIE stuff should be posted here to the main list anymore. So far, only 295 of our 2400 members have joined the MOVIE list. I find it hard to believe that more of you don't want to discuss the MOVIE. :--) Here's the URL if you haven't joined yet: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-Movie 2. Announcements -- News links (not full stories!), JKR sightings, book signings, plugs for fanfic chapter releases, new merchandise, etc. should go *only* to our Announcements list. Here's the URL for that one: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-Announcements 3. OT-Chatter - Anything Off-topic (but not inflammatory or specifically prohibited such as politics) can be discussed with other members of the HP4GU community in this sister group. It's *fun* -- come join us! And don't even think about posting to the main group & starting out with "I think this might be OT but ..." (that will get you a e-howler!). http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter 4. Convention -- We recently formed a sister group for people interested in a HP Convention. Join the fun at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-Convention 5. We also have various regional groups (NY, New England, Texas, Florida, California, Great Lakes, Washington D.C., London, Germany, etc.) -- check the Files section for further information on these groups. We realize this is a more complicated structure than most Yahoogroups, but it isn't really too difficult to work with once you've got the hang of it. Just remember this simple rule: if your post is discussing the books in some form, chances are good that it belongs on the main group. If it's *not* discussing the books, stop & think about where it goes. If you ever have a question about whether a post is appropriate for the main group, please feel free to contact the Moderators at either hpforgrownups-owner at yahoogroups.com or MagicalMods at yahoogroups.com. You should also feel free to contact your List Elf if you are a new member. That's what the List Elves are there for. They are eager to be of service in fact. Thanks, Penny Magical Moderator Team From witchwanda2002 at witchwanda2002.yahoo.invalid Fri Nov 9 14:05:47 2001 From: witchwanda2002 at witchwanda2002.yahoo.invalid (Wanda Mallett) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 06:05:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: NBC Special Message-ID: <20011109140547.18164.qmail@...> On the Today show this morning, they showed a clip of the up coming special Harry Potter Behind the Magic! Katie Couric interviewed our stars of the movie! Sunday night November 11 at 7pm EST. Hearing Daniel's voice in the tease segment, he sounds great! Anyway, you all know what we'll be watching and taping Sunday!! Wanda the Witch of Revere, Massachusetts and Her Merry Band of Muggles 100% __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com From ebonyink at selah_1977.yahoo.invalid Sun Nov 11 15:22:38 2001 From: ebonyink at selah_1977.yahoo.invalid (Ebony) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:22:38 -0000 Subject: HP4GU Great Lakes Movie Opening Info Message-ID: <9sm53u+a933@...> Attention all HP4GUers who live or will be in Southeastern Michigan or Southern Ontario next weekend: Please check out our last-minute plans on the HP4GU-GreatLakes list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-GreatLakes and e-mail me if you wish to join us. The Star Fairlane theatre in Dearborn (across M-39 from Ford Motor Company World Headquarters) is convenient to most points in the five-county Motor City area... you can travel there from just about anywhere in Oakland or Wayne counties in 15 min. or less. It's is only 15-20 minutes outside of Ann Arbor and 10 min. from downtown and the border. Let us know if you wish to join us. I am also planning to attend a Saturday afternoon show with some students, so if that would be more amenable--speak up! Thanks! --Eb From redblack24 at redblack24.yahoo.invalid Tue Nov 13 14:24:33 2001 From: redblack24 at redblack24.yahoo.invalid (April M.) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 06:24:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Draco/Hermione fanfic archive updated! Message-ID: <20011113142433.81073.qmail@...> Hi! The Draco and Hermione Fanfiction Archive (http://www.geocities.com/hermione_draco) has been updated. Now housing over 150 D/H fics! Please feel free to send submissions ^_^ Hope you surf by. Thanks and best regards, April __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com From redblack24 at redblack24.yahoo.invalid Wed Nov 14 12:00:34 2001 From: redblack24 at redblack24.yahoo.invalid (April M.) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 04:00:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Draco/Hermione archive - more updates! Message-ID: <20011114120034.88341.qmail@...> Hi! More fics have been added to The Draco and Hermione Fanfiction Archive (http://www.geocities.com/hermione_draco). I'm trying to make up for the terrible four-month lack of updates To the readers and to those who have submitted stories, a million apologies for the delay in posting. I'm working on it. Best regards, April __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com From blpurdom at blpurdom.yahoo.invalid Thu Nov 15 03:03:31 2001 From: blpurdom at blpurdom.yahoo.invalid (Barb) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 03:03:31 -0000 Subject: New Chapter Message-ID: <9svba3+rk79@...> The latest chapter of Harry Potter and the Time of Good Intentions (or: The Last Temptation of Harry Potter) is up at Schnoogle.com. (ToGI is the sequel to Harry Potter and the Psychic Serpent.) Chapter 7: >From The New World In which Harry looks for Hermione in Muggle London, finds out the truth about his O.W.L.s, has a confrontation with his mother, hears from Dumbledore, and sees a very familiar-looking woman on a train... Go to: http://www.schnoogle.com/authors/barb/TOGI07.html Enjoy! --Barb From irina at irina_author.yahoo.invalid Thu Nov 15 05:25:27 2001 From: irina at irina_author.yahoo.invalid (Irina) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 05:25:27 -0000 Subject: Chapter 7--The Rebirth Plug Message-ID: <9svjk7+c0ft@...> Hi All! This is just a quick note to let you know that chapter 7 of "The Rebirth" is up on schnoogle and ffn. On both sites, author name is Irina. Comedy, romance, adventure, cosmic fate, and a badass Celtic goddess--what more could you ask for? Please take a look; I guarantee you won't be disappointed. Best regards, and thanks for reading! Irina ------------------------------------------------ Your mom wants you to read "The Rebirth." www.schnoogle.com/authorlinks/irina Don't forget to review! From irina at irina_author.yahoo.invalid Wed Nov 21 16:52:36 2001 From: irina at irina_author.yahoo.invalid (Irina) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:52:36 -0000 Subject: "The Rebirth" Chapter 8 Message-ID: <9tgm4k+dfgs@...> Hi All! Just a quick email to let you know that Chapter 8 of "The Rebirth" is now up on ffn and the HP Pendragon yahoo group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPPendragon) and will be up on schnoogle shortly. Author name: Irina. This chapter has something for everyone-Death Eaters, Christmas presents, a party, a plot, some romance, a surprise about Dana and Delia, and, best of all, the identity of the second protector. Don't miss the penultimate chapter of this fic. Best regards, Irina ------------------------------------------- Your mom wants you to read "The Rebirth" groups.yahoo.com/group/HPPendragon Don't forget to review! From blpurdom at blpurdom.yahoo.invalid Fri Nov 23 00:59:47 2001 From: blpurdom at blpurdom.yahoo.invalid (Barb) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 00:59:47 -0000 Subject: New ToGI Chapter (Psychic Serpent Sequel) Message-ID: <9tk723+59qd@...> The latest chapter of Harry Potter and the Time of Good Intentions (or The Last Temptation of Harry Potter) is up at schnoogle.com: Chapter 8: The Sister http://www.schnoogle.com/authors/barb/TOGI08.html Enjoy! --Barb From pennylin at plinsenmayer.yahoo.invalid Fri Nov 23 03:57:52 2001 From: pennylin at plinsenmayer.yahoo.invalid (Penny & Bryce) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:57:52 -0600 Subject: HP4GU Press Coverage Message-ID: <3BFDC940.4090208@...> Hi everyone -- There is a NY Times piece on HPforGrownups in today's issue. You can access it online for free at: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/22/technology/circuits/22DIAR.html?searchpv=nytToday&pagewanted=print If the above link doesn't work, just go to nytimes.com & search harry potter in the 30-day archives. It will pull it right up (it has Harry Potter for Adults in the title). Penny From nethilia at nethilia.yahoo.invalid Fri Nov 23 07:08:51 2001 From: nethilia at nethilia.yahoo.invalid (Tasha--Nethilia) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:08:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: More Birds of a Feather! In-Reply-To: <1006438109.193.6808.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <20011123070851.31069.qmail@...> Yup yup! Chapter 6 is up and ready to go! Right now it's only on my site at http://www.geocities.com/ravenclaw_princess/boaf-flight6.htm. As soon as I can, ff.net will get it and Schnoogle should have it up. ^.^ Have fun! --Neth ===== --Nethilia de Lobo-- 79% obsessed with Harry Potter Wand: Dragon Heartstring, Ash, 7 inches **Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus.** http://www.geocities.com/spenecial Spenecial.com. Two girls. One Website. Total Chaos. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From neilward at flyingfordanglia.yahoo.invalid Sat Nov 24 10:06:18 2001 From: neilward at flyingfordanglia.yahoo.invalid (Neil Ward) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 10:06:18 -0000 Subject: ADMIN: Through the trapdoor.. a reminder of our rules Message-ID: <013d01c174cf$a9efc580$373470c2@c5s910j> Hi everyone, Ahem! If I may, another ickle reminder about our list rules... If you are new to the list, please, please, please read this and your life will be greatly enriched (well, perhaps not, but you may learn a thing or two). ****WHERE TO POST This list (ref. the main list) is for discussion of the Harry Potter books only. The Harry Potter books are those thick, papery things with words inside and the name J K Rowling located somewhere on the cover. You cant miss em. Meanwhile, all HP movie-related discussion or comments must go to our Movie list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-Movie Off-topic topics, or threads once they become OT, should, without exception, be posted to our OT Chatter list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter If you want to announce something, rather than discuss it (a news item, a new website, a new merchandise item, a new fanfic chapter etc.) please send your message to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-Announcements ****HOW TO AVOID HOWLERS If you havent done so yet, please read the Netiquette Tips file in our Admin folder, and take a look through the other files there: www.hpfgu.org.uk/admin One line posts are discouraged. If you have several short things to say, please combine them into a single post, noting the various subjects in the header (this that- a bit of the other); Consider sending private emails (or using OT Chatter) with personal/review comments aimed at only one or two people ("I loved your post..," etc), if that's all you want to say; If you have questions about the lists themselves, or technical enquiries, that aren't answered by the various files, please contact the moderators (see bottom of message for addresses) or, if youre new enough to have been elfed, your List Elf. Please don't post such questions on this list; ****MAKING THINGS EASIER TO READ Please remember to label posts accurately (especially those of you on Digest). For example "A question" or "Re: Digest 666" are not acceptable headings. Also, you must use the designated prefixes for certain topics: FF (fanfic), SHIP (relationshipping). If you are responding to a long message, please be kind to the rest of us and snip out the bits of the original that aren't needed (noting the original author). Otherwise your excellent comments may be lost in the mess. On the other hand, remember to include *something* in the body of the email that indicates what it is youre replying to. ****ANY QUESTIONS? Moderator Hexquarters (reaches all the moderators and List Elves): hpforgrownups-owner at yahoogroups.com or magicalmods at yahoogroups.com (moderators only) Magically yours, Neil ________________________________________ Flying Ford Anglia Magical Moderator Team From john at johnwaltonvu.yahoo.invalid Sat Nov 24 18:17:21 2001 From: john at johnwaltonvu.yahoo.invalid (John Walton) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 18:17:21 +0000 Subject: ADMIN: Everyone! Listen up! In-Reply-To: <9tom2v+9jh1@...> Message-ID: **Ignore this at your peril, both newbies and older list members.** Welcome to everyone who's joined recently, either as a result of the movie or the NYTimes article. We're glad to have you here. Of course, HPforGrownups, like any community, has certain rules which must be followed in order to ensure the smooth functioning of our lists. These are the Admin Files and can be found at http://www.hpfgu.org.uk/admin -- READ THEM. Now, a few more pointers: 1) ADMIN messages are *NOT* to be ignored. No "I didn't think it applied to me", no "I thought one message would be okay". If you ignore ADMIN messages, you *will* be put on Moderated Status or turned into a ferret. You MUST also read the Admin Files before posting to our lists. Yep, there are a few of them, but they amount to only a few pages. You've sat through a 2-1/2 hour movie and read 1400-odd pages of HP. Now read a few pages of Admin Files. 2) We have four principal lists here at HPforGrownups, and they have titles which, surprisingly, reflect their function: HPforGrownups: The Main List is for BOOK-RELATED DISCUSSION ONLY. HPFGU-OTChatter: The OTChatter list is for off-topic and chatty-type posts. HPFGU-Announcements: The Announcements list is for announcements: New sites, news, etc. HPFGU-Movie: The Movie list is for EVERYTHING movie. Fantasy casting, comments, comparisons with the books, etc. If you can't figure out where your post goes, ask the Mods. Chances are, with 20-odd people (Mods & Elves) reading the hpforgrownups-owner at yahoogroups.com email address, you'll get an immediate reply. Even if you don't, your post will still be there if it takes an hour or two. 3) Use accurate subject headings. People like to skim topics and read only what they're interested in. They can't do that if posts aren't labelled accurately. You *will* be reminded once, then Howlered and then put on Moderated Status if you frequently use inaccurate subject headings. ("I was only replying to someone else's message" is not an excuse.) 4) When you reply to posts, you must give us some idea what you are replying to -- either a bit of the post quoted (note "a bit", not the whole post!) or your own paraphrase: "Re: Penny's comments on why Ron is great for Hermione". This is something, like the subject heading thing, that the Mods are particularly irritated by. So snip! 5) If you have a simple question (like "where does it say that Hermione's birthday is September 19th") do check the group's VFAQ file at http://www.hpfgu.org.uk/vfaq and then the HP Lexicon at http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon and if it's a real quandary contact the Mods at hpforgrownups-owner at yahoogroups.com. 6) Use decent English. netspeek iz not kewl. Nor is using numbers and letters 2 say what u mean. The vast majority of the list gets *really* annoyed by it and you will find yourself ignored. Check your spelling and grammar too. We're all adults -- we should all be able to write like adults. Of course, we realise that many of our members do not have English as a first language -- we applaud you for your knowledge of English and your willingness to join an English-language group. However, you should be able to compose written English to a high-school standard. Anyway...if you have any questions at all, please contact the Moderator Team. That's Penny the list mom, Amy Z (what *does* that Z stand for?), Neil aka Flying Ford Anglia the Mechanimagus Moderator, and me, John, Moderator With Rock #47. Email us at hpforgrownups-owner at yahoogroups.com (our List Elves will see it as well and may reply to you if we're off gallivanting somewhere). Get reading those Admin Files! :D --John, for the Moderator Team. __________________________________ The HPforGrownups Moderator Team MagicalMods at yahoogroups.com Please read our Admin Files, particularly the VFAQ and Netiquette files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ From yael_pou at yael_pou.yahoo.invalid Sat Nov 24 19:29:18 2001 From: yael_pou at yael_pou.yahoo.invalid (yael-pou) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:29:18 +0200 Subject: fic challenge - HP_FanFiction birthday Message-ID: Hello, The HP_FanFiction group is celebrating its birthday with a Special Birthday Fic Challenge. I now realise that I should have announced it when we were still accepting submissions, but I'm afraid I just didn't think of that in time. However, you can still enjoy the fourteen submissions made for the competitions. Some of them are funny, others sad; most are very exciting, and they all, and I do mean *all*, include singing cakes. You can find them in Birthday_Challenge folder in the HP_FanFiction group at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP_FanFiction/files/Birthday_Challenge/ When you're done reading, you can choose the winning fic in the poll set up especially for this purpose: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP_FanFiction/surveys?id=819415 You can still make a difference (and enjoy yourselves on the way). Thanks, yael ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Their clothes were cut off the edge of the latest fashion, which was currently inclining towards wide hats, padded shoulders, narrow waists and pointed shoes and gave its followers the appearance of being very well-dressed nails." - Terry Pratchett, Pyramids. From Mmsx1 at mmsx1.yahoo.invalid Sat Nov 24 23:18:23 2001 From: Mmsx1 at mmsx1.yahoo.invalid (Mmsx1 at mmsx1.yahoo.invalid) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 18:18:23 EST Subject: My Sean Biggerstaff Page! Message-ID: <2d.149b64ff.293184bf@...> Hi! Just wanted to tell you all that I have a pretty nice Sean Biggerstaff page here: http://www.envy.nu/airemay/sean.html It has pictures, articles about Sean, filmograpgy and a biography! -Airemay From mlpmama at mlpmama.yahoo.invalid Mon Nov 26 05:52:33 2001 From: mlpmama at mlpmama.yahoo.invalid (mlpmama at mlpmama.yahoo.invalid) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 05:52:33 -0000 Subject: Small Packages Chapter 5! Message-ID: <9tslb1+2kg9@...> Chapter 5 of the sequel to "When All is Said and Done." It's now up at FF.net, and is titled "The Critics." http://www.fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=409463&chapter=5 Please read and review, and see it ~ The Glitterpixie From john at johnwaltonvu.yahoo.invalid Mon Nov 26 13:55:00 2001 From: john at johnwaltonvu.yahoo.invalid (John Walton) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 13:55:00 +0000 Subject: ADMIN: How To Act Like A Grownup Online Message-ID: Hi again from the Hexquarters. The Moderator Team have noticed a really worrying decline in the quality of posting to the lists. Some people seem unable to follow basic language mechanics (Spelling, Punctuation, Grammar and Proofreading) or a simple set of Admin Files. For the record, here is what is expected of every member of our HPFGU community: You might think we sound like a bunch of crotchety old people. Ha. *waves stick* We're not -- we don't mind mature teenagers at all -- in fact, some of us are high-school students. However, act like you're an adult. Please bear in mind that there are parents, teachers, professionals, businesspeople, academics and people from many countries, some of whom speak English as a second or third language, making it imperative that all members use correct English. This includes using capital letters at the beginning of sentences, periods at the end and commas in the middle to show phrasing. Question marks end questions, don't they? Oh, and please restrain yourself from using too many exclamation marks. They make you look overly-excitable. And there's NEVER a need for more than one exclamation mark at the end of a sentence. "!!!!!!!" will get you smacked up the side of the head by a broomstick. * Never use all lower case letters or, worse still, all CAPITAL LETTERS in a message. It is a major no-no, visually jarring, incredibly irritating and using all caps is considered SHOUTING! The odd word in capital letters for EMPHASIS is okay, though. * Never, EVER, *EVER* use netspeak. Some common abbreviations (see http://www.hpfgu.org.uk/shorthand) are fine (the BTW, IIRC, AFAIK type) but using numbers for words ("2" for "to", "4" for "for", "l8r" for later), single letters for words ("u" for "you", "r" for "are", "b" for "be") and other such stupidity are not. They make you look like a total moron who just got out of kindergarten. Don't do it. * Spell characters' names correctly. It's "Hermione" not "Hermoine", "McGonagall" not "McGonagal" or "McGongle" or anything else. Nothing (apart from netspeak) makes you look like a moron faster than repeatedly misspelling characters' names. Also, "Pensieve" is for some reason tricky to certain people. * If you're used to forums where speed is important (chat rooms, role playing games, etc.), it's easy to fall out of the habit of proofreading. Here, however, your post will be as relevant in five minutes (or, usually, even in five hours) as it is now -- and will be much better received without the spelling mistakes. ? Before hitting the 'send' button, please take a few minutes to look over your post and correct any typos, spelling/punctuation errors, or problems with sentence structure or capitalization. This will make it much easier to read and help in getting across your point. __________________________________ For more information, read the group's Admin Files. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Questions? Mail the Mods below :) __________________________________ The HPforGrownups Moderator Team MagicalMods at yahoogroups.com ? From pkerr06 at bluesox4113.yahoo.invalid Wed Nov 28 01:32:26 2001 From: pkerr06 at bluesox4113.yahoo.invalid (pkerr06 at bluesox4113.yahoo.invalid) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 01:32:26 -0000 Subject: Peg Kerr's second novel re-released Message-ID: <9u1era+85el@...> My second novel, The Wild Swans, published by Warner Books, has just been re-released in mass market format and can be found at in bookstores now. Just in time for Christmas! Check it out at Amazon http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0446608475/qid=1006910951/sr=1- 1/ref=sr_1_2_1/103-8726718-4031015 or at your local independent bookstore. Peg Kerr From john at johnwaltonvu.yahoo.invalid Wed Nov 28 16:35:10 2001 From: john at johnwaltonvu.yahoo.invalid (John Walton) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:35:10 +0000 Subject: ADMIN: New Introductory Membership for New Members Message-ID: Dear HPforGrownups members, This message effects a change in list policy towards new members on the HPforGrownups list. It's with some reluctance that the Moderator Team have to make this change, so we wanted to take this opportunity to explain to you why we feel this change is necessary. As many of you have undoubtedly observed, the list is growing quickly, particularly as interest in HP and the group has increased with the release of the movie and with our exposure in the New York Times. Hundreds of new members have been welcomed onto the list. That's fantastic, and we expect our membership to continue to grow as anticipation of Book 5 mounts. The unfortunate consequence of that, however, is that the Mods -- and members -- are seeing a dramatic spike in the number of posts that violate one or more of our rules. We have seen snipping problems, inattentive spelling and grammar, posting on the wrong board, inaccurate subject lines, and failure to read our Admin Files and ADMIN messages. This reduces the enjoyment of the group for everyone. In fact, some newer members (who have not seen the list at what we'd consider its best) have left, citing reasons of post volume -- and quality. We think that the discussion here is of a higher quality than you'd expect from other Harry Potter lists. We *know* we have more rules than others. This is not a coincidence. The reason HPFGU has survived without degrading into meaningless drivel and the reason that the older members stick around without getting tired of the repetition is because we have these rules to keep the list running smoothly. They are for everyone's benefit -- if you don't appreciate that now, you'll come to appreciate it soon. For these reasons, we've decided to introduce an introductory period of membership to the list. YahooGroups has a handy technical option which we have been considering for quite a while. It's called "unmoderated, moderate new members", and several groups we've seen use it to excellent effect. This means that all incoming members, retroactive to November 22, will be on Moderated Status for a short period of time. We understand that the way HPFGU works is complex, and misunderstandings can result in repeated violations of list policy. Moderated Status allows the Moderators to check the posts for compliance with the rules before releasing them to the group at large. Since we have a large number of people with Moderator privileges (the Mods, Elves and Poltergeists), we expect that posts will either be approved or rejected promptly. When a post is rejected, it will be sent back to the author for revision in accordance with our list rules. After a brief period of good posting in observance of list policy, new members will be removed from Moderated Status and will then be able to post as normal. In the meantime, we encourage all of our new members to keep an eye on the email accounts they used to register with HPFGU, as this is where you will receive notification of any problems concerning any of your posts. Also, remember that if your post does not appear right away, you should give it time, then check your email account. Do not simply keep sending your message over and over. Our other lists, HPFGU-Movie, -OTChatter and -Announcements will remain unchanged, although the number of warnings for posts not complying with list rules will be reduced to one. Please understand that this change in policy is by no means designed to discourage our new members from participating in our group. Each new member brings his or her unique point of view to the community, and it is this diversity of perspective, experience and personality that keeps the list exciting, interesting and fresh. We hope all of you will continue to offer your insights and contribute to our discussions. For more information, or to comment on this new policy, email the Moderator Team at MagicalMods at yahoogroups.com. --AJJP&N, Magical Moderator Team From LMRourke at lmrourke.yahoo.invalid Thu Nov 29 18:09:08 2001 From: LMRourke at lmrourke.yahoo.invalid (Lisa Rourke) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 18:09:08 -0000 Subject: Updated Art Files-New Drawings Message-ID: <9u5tk4+c262@...> Hi, Everyone! I haven't posted an announcement about any of my artwork in a while so I updated my folder and added a lot of new drawings. I've new ones of Cho, Neville, Charlie and Bill as well as more new Harry, Ginny and Draco pictures. You can view them at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownUps-Graphics/files/FanArt/% 20LMR%27s%20Drawings/ Thanks for looking and any comments are heartily welcome! ^_^ Regards, Lisa From pennylin at plinsenmayer.yahoo.invalid Thu Nov 29 22:58:05 2001 From: pennylin at plinsenmayer.yahoo.invalid (Penny & Bryce) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:58:05 -0600 Subject: A Reader's Guide to the HP Novels ... a review of sorts Message-ID: <3C06BD7D.2050303@...> Hi all -- I wanted to draw everyone's attention to a fabulous new resource on the HP novels. The title is "J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter Novels," written by Dr. Philip Nel (an English lit professor at Kansas State), part of the Continuum Contemporaries series. There are 32 titles listed on the book jacket as being published or forthcoming as part of this series, and not surprisingly (), *none* of them are childrens' books. The highlighted books include: A Thousand Acres (Jane Smiley), The Shipping News (Annie Proulx), Trainspotting (Irvine Welsh), The Poisonwood Bible (Barbara Kingsolver), American Psycho (Bret Easton Ellis). I obtained my copy through amazon, and I don't know how readily available it is at the mainline bookstores. Dr. Nel clearly is thoroughly familiar with the books and has done painstaking research into available secondary resources. The first section is a biography of Rowling (I could find no fault with this section at all.... it jives with everything I've read). Ahem ... unlike that dreadful unauthorized biography by Shapiro. Part 2 is titled "The Novels," and Dr. Nel "examines the many levels on which the books operate and looks at the many genres in which one might place the series." He touches on a wide range of topics in this section, including the oft-debated "is this series childrens' lit"? He concludes that Rowling is writing not only for children (based on his own interpretation as well as Rowling's statements in this regard). The 3rd section examines the reviews, both laudatory & critical, of the individual books in the series. He takes a firm stand against those reviewers who dismiss the HP books either because they are "childrens' books" or because they have such wide-ranging popular appeal. He had some particularly sharp comments to make about Harold Bloom's pronouncement (which I took great delight in). There were a number of more obscure or early reviews that I'd never read, which are discussed in this section & included in his extensive bibliography. The 4th section is titled "The Performance of the Novels." Discussion here includes: the NY Times Bestseller List debacle, the audio translations, the Americanization of the Scholastic versions, the British adult versions, the foreign translations, HP in popular culture such as editorial cartoons, TV programs, general language, etc. Brief discussion of the movie & merchandise. The last section is Further Reading & Discussion Questions. Nel explores a number of other books that might appeal to HP fans. He reviews official websites & fan sites (I've written him to see if he will add our group to this section if the book is updated as it presumably will be). He then includes some *very* intriguing discussion questions. It would be fun to take one per week once our scheduled discussions are at an end. The book runs less than 100 pages with bibliography, but he packs alot into that short space. It's a very well-done resource for obsessed fans, and I highly recommend it. Oh, it's $10 through amazon & well worth this price IMO (despite the brevity). I'd like to discuss it more once some other people have read it. I showed it to Amanda & Sheryll when they visited earlier this week. Penny From lee_hillman at gwendolyngrace.yahoo.invalid Fri Nov 30 20:47:51 2001 From: lee_hillman at gwendolyngrace.yahoo.invalid (Hillman, Lee) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:47:51 -0500 Subject: PLUG - Final Chapter of HMSS! Message-ID: <95774A6A6036D411AFEA00D0B73C864303B05657@...> Greetings! I am just proud as punch to announce that the last chapter of His Majesty's Secret Service, chapter 12 1/2, is complete and coming SOON to a fanfic archive near you! This bouncing baby novel weighs in at 260 pages, the last seven of which are brand new and tie up all the last bits you've been dying to know! What happened to Severus? Will Lupin wake up? What will Ryan do now? Will Hermione start wearing her Prefect badge? The answers are all in chapter 12 1/2, Denouement. This short chapter can be visited at either fanfiction.net or schnoogle.com: http://www.fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=163925 &chapter=13 http://www.schnoogle.com/authorLinks/Gwendolyn_Grace/ For best maintenance of the chapter, it's recommended that you read carefully for signs that it needs feeding or care. The author burped it just before uploading, but it probably needs some reviews to fortify it for its long stay on the sites. It's been no end of fun finishing this up not quite a year after I started writing it. And now for those of you who like to wait until a story is complete before starting, your wish is granted! Go check it out at either site. Or both sites! Reread the whole thing! Tell your friends! Tell your enemies! It's done! Gwen exits stage left, whooping with giddy joy From Calypso8604 at calypso8604.yahoo.invalid Fri Nov 30 23:08:35 2001 From: Calypso8604 at calypso8604.yahoo.invalid (Calypso) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 23:08:35 -0000 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?La_Fleur_de_la_Vall=E9e?= Message-ID: <9u93hj+9r5f@...> Hello everyone! I've started a Percy/Fleur fic on Astronomy Tower. The URL is http://www.astronomytower.org/authorLinks/Calypso/La_Fleur_de_la_Valle e/ if anyone is interested. I'll not give any of the plot away but I think it will be an interesting read when more is up...Chapters one and two are both up on Astronomy Tower! - Calypso