Query

a_reader2003 carolynwhite2 at aol.com
Wed Apr 28 09:40:23 UTC 2004


--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, Barry Arrowsmith 
<arrowsmithbt at b...> wrote:
> It's difficult, I agree.
> 
> Under 1.3.4. foreshadowing, clues etc? Or does it go  far enough to 
> count as a prediction?

> Got to ask, is 1.3.4. intended for the sort of thing you've come up 
> against, or is it intended to be used for retrospective analysis - 
as in "if we look back it's obvious that...? 'Cos I've been using it 
in the former case -  as in " Here's something we ought to take 
notice of -  bet it means something, but I'm not sure what." 

Had a post  that wondered what the result of the paired wands would 
mean. It was seen as an important clue, but to what? They didn't know 
and couldn't guess, but worth a credit just the same.

And there's an awful lot of posts that boil down to "What does this 
mean, is it significant?  Will it tie in with that?" and we probably 
won't know if it was reader paranoia until No. 7 is published. Have 
to fit 'em in somewhere.
> 

Carolyn:
Mmm. Its tricky. I think the category can probably be used for both, 
the ones you have been coding there serving as examples. We could 
perhaps separate out posts which just talked about the use of 
foreshadowing/clues as a literary technique into a separate sub-
category within 1.3.4.

But in the examples you quoted, and the one I am trying to deal with, 
they obviously would be coded up elsewhere as well. I am putting a 
lot of these kind of things into their right place in the chapter 
listings. Often, they are the kind of queries that come up in the 
chapter-by-chapter discussions. Or, I am ticking a relevant character 
or magical item - the marauder's map, the invisibility cloak etc. On 
your wands, I would probably tick 'wands' plus Voldie & Harry, and 
um, Ollivander (who needs to be put on the list..I will go and do 
this right away). Oh, and I would click the graveyard scene in GOF - 
the posts you have found being an excellent background discussion to 
what did happen there. Is this too much ?

One of the advantages we have is knowing the relevance of a lot of 
their speculations.

Returning to my problem, I was wondering whether to add a category 
called 'prophecy' to the section on free-will, determinism etc. There 
have been a lot of spot-on predictions about what both Trelawny's 
prophecies were about; it might be useful to pull them out to read 
separately. I have been linking them into the last-but-one chapter in 
OOP where DD finally 'reveals' what it was all about, or the prophecy 
chapter in POA so far.







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