Fwd: Re: HPFGU archive/catalog question

[Paul Kippes]

This is the response I got from Heidi.  See below email.

Of course we can choose to not display any FROM information.  But
that still leaves names when replying to someone else, signing a
post, or directly mentioning someone else.  I don't understand the
significance of Jan 2001, but it must be either a TOU change or legal
thing.  Maybe that is when eGroups became yGroups?  We can also do
what Yahoo does and omit portions of the email to obsure the author.

I think we should:
1) Clarify how the information is being used.
2) Promise that we'll do everything we can to prevent our stored data
from being copied into a search index (like Google) or other archive
(like Internet Archive).  This will probably require a log in type of
thing for all users and viewers.
3) Clear all this with the Meg folks
4) Perhaps give the original author an opt-out ability and display
only a link of such opters into the Yahoo group.  Basically, they can
opt out of having the post redisplayed outside of Yahoo, but they
can't prevent us from telling others about how to read it.

Heads up though.  I won't be putting this server in my name.  Some
HPFGU readers can be real asses, and I want no part of trouble
makers.  If those kinds of people don't want us to show their posts,
let them.





--- Heidi Tandy <heidi at heidi8.com> wrote:
> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 20:07:01 -0400
> Subject: Re: HPFGU archive/catalog question
> To: Paul Kippes <kippesp at yahoo.com>
> From: Heidi Tandy <heidi at heidi8.com>
> 
> Are people's names on them? If it were done sans name, then
> everything 
> from january of 2001 is fair game, and everything from august of
> 2000 
> can, at least, be summarized and if the listee stayed on thru
> january of 
> 2001, they can be used in toto.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 1:27am, Paul Kippes wrote:
> > Remember the HPFGU catalog I helped put together an interface to
> > categorize the various HPFGU posts with the hope of eventually
> making
> > something useful to people?
> >
> > There's a question about what can and can't (or should and
> shouldn't)
> > be done with the content.
> >
> > Assume that the post archive was provided by a person who had
> been a
> > member of the HPFGU group since the beginning and saved each
> emailed
> > post.  Are there legal concerns to cataloging those emails,
> providing
> > an index of categories, and displaying the full posts' content
> for
> > those posts in a category?  Are there legal concerns to not
> verifying
> > the visitor is a current member of HPFGU?
> >
> > Ethically, I don't think the posts of other people should be
> > displayed outside of Yahoo.  But basically all that is being
> > accomplished by displaying the posts is a convenience.  Links
> could
> > be provided into the Yahoo group to get at the same information.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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