Dormice/ESE!/DBase/Ginger the slasher/perpetrating mistakes

[carolynwhite2]

Dot:
I believe there are a number of species of periodical dormice, 
which, unlike their cicadid namesakes, have a variable periodicity, 
and emerge after any prime number of days/weeks/months*. 
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Carolyn:
An interesting thesis. Other researchers, such as Kneasy et al. 
(2003, 2004) have also pointed to a change in global list environment 
threatening their habitat. However, some species (particularly those 
exhibiting tannin-stained molars), have evolved a highly-unusual 
defensive strategy through association with larger mammals such as 
canus lupus. As far as can be determined, humans intent on 
eradicating the litter of papers generated by dormice nests quickly 
become prey for the larger scavenger. Recent sightings of canus lupus 
in the wastelands of YAHOO primary coll. may indicate re-emergence of 
the species, as it scents new canon in the air.

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Debbie:

Only subcategory worth a mention is 1.2.4.4. ESE!  I cut it down from 
94 to 84, but the real problem with this category is not that it's 
too fat; it's too lean.  Lots of ESE Lupin, but Pippin's original 
post is missing.  Likewise Elkins' Minerva McGonagall Is Ever So 
Evil.  In fact, a high percentage of the posts are defenses which 
begin with "so many posters are claiming that [name any character] 
will turn out to be evil."  Yet the actual accusations are not 
there.  How do we fix this?  Should we try?  The category looks oddly 
incomplete.

Carolyn:
Should we be putting the actual ESE! theories here? I have got 
Pippin's first post under ESE!Lupin (and indeed, many precursors to 
it - she had her teeth into him from waaaaaay back). Similarly we 
have ESE!McGonagall. It could get very big.

Perhaps we should reserve it for the idea of suggesting various 
characters are ESE!, ie a subset of subversion.

Or, simply have only one post there - the one that coined it (does 
that exist?)

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Jen:
Can you tell the date we've finished a batch of codes by looking at 
the database (for your weekly update), or do we still need to inform 
you on-list? 

Carolyn: No need to post here, I can look at the list in the 
database, which I am also continuing to keep in hard copy in case of 
any slip ups by Yahoo.


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Ginger:

Other Wizarding Schools:

Ginger pauses, and offers Carolyn a nice cup of tea, makes sure she 
has completly swallowed and set the cup safely on the desk.

Was 227, now 84. 62 rejects, 81 uncoded.

Ginger pauses and passes Carolyn the smelling salts.

<snip entertaining analysis of sappy thinking - like anyone would 
*want* to be home-schooled by their mother?? Cripes.>

I have to say I was more lenient in what I kept here than in any 
other category I have reviewed. And I'm still trying to get over 
those Texas animals that squirt blood out of their eyes. 

Carolyn:
Really, no apologies needed...the question is, do we now have 
permission to reject almost anything else on the subject?? & does 
Amanda breed these things under her porch?? Or just thwack 'em? Good 
training for being an HPfGU mod, either way.
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I have assigned myself posts 44901-45000. I think that adds up to 100 
posts, but I keep thinking my maths may be off.

Ginger, who can't believe she is still awake!

Carolyn:
Another heroic job.. and the math is a bit like working out how old 
you are. You have to remember to include the 12 months between being 
born and being 1 year old...at least I do, on the nasty occasions 
when I have to own up.

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Ginger:
When you look at "mistakes/perpetuating mistakes" it says to reject 
things that we know now that weren't known at the time (eg 
the "married 
couple" to whom Sirius refered).

Kelly:
I'll echo the confusion on this one. I use it only for posting 
mistakes, i.e. the poster should have known the detail at the time he 
or she posted. 

Sean:
If it's in the VFAQ, or JKR has ruled it out, I think it's fair to
reject: Fourth Man is quite valid to keep around, but insisting that
Sirius is in Slytherin is not.

Debbie:
So I'd err on the side of caution, remembering that what one person 
thinks is settled is, to someone else, an invitation to speculation.

(2)  Even assuming JKR definitively said Sirius was not a Slytherin, 
I'd keep a well presented post arguing that MWPP represented the four 
Hogwarts houses, or one that argues well that Sirius has Slytherin 
traits.  I would, however, toss unsupported assertions or 
predictions, and mindless repetition, in the trash.

Ginger:
So, in other words, if it is part of list history, we keep it, if it 
is something that came as a result of poor reading or mind altering 
substances, it goes out.  Not that some good theories may not have 
had mind altering substances involved.

Carolyn:
Yes, we've had this discussion a few times now. It is hard to be 
definitive. I always chuck things based on wrong canon, like the 
idiot I found the other day who was insisting it was the basilisk 
that killed Tom Riddle's parents, not Tom. However, I'd get a bit 
upset chucking out the wonderful Avery theories; apart from anything 
else, they are not all completely disproved. Since we know nothing 
very much about Avery, who's to say what back history might be 
revealed subsequently? The grain of truth in their fabulous 
inventiveness is that he *does* behave like an abject neurotic 
hysteric, as does Peter on occasion.. all grist to the mill if she is 
exploring cowardice and terror and why people betray others.

I am also with Debbie on keeping a well-argued MWPP post sorting them 
into different houses, firstly because we still don't quite know 
about Peter, and secondly because we may also find out that the 
Sorting Hat asked similar questions of Sirius (and maybe Lupin) as it 
did of Harry when he was sorted - ie, they would do well in Slytherin 
(or another house).

I suppose I am saying I reject very little on the mistakes code. I 
tend to mostly use 'adds nothing new' - which gets a lot of exercise.

Carolyn