Hermione questions/some replies
carolynwhite2
carolynwhite2 at aol.com
Sun Feb 20 11:39:50 UTC 2005
Sean:
Just to keep things clear, I'd like a clarification from those who've
worked on other character categories how to proceed in the following
cases:
1. Character is mentioned in passing but not the main topic of
discussion e.g. references Hermione briefly as part of a discussion
centering on Harry and Ron (NOT shipping).
2. Character is part of quoted canon but not the main topic of the
subsequent discussion e.g. quoting Hermione in canon to illustrate a
point about Ron.
These would seem to be the only grey areas worth quibbling over?
Potioncat:
Don't we want to ask ourselves, "If I was looking for a post about
Character is this what I'd want to find?" and if it isn't worth it
from that PoV, it goes.
Jen: Yes. Guilty of overcoding if a name is even mentioned in a post,
but will stop that. Promise. You start clicking down the list and get
in a rhythm and hoo-boy before you know it 15 categories are tagged.
Seems like the best rule of thumb now when considering the end user
is to look at the big picture and main topic when coding. Some posts
are hard because they discuss multiple subjects, but it's not going
to be perfect after all.
Sean:
Good enough for me. A LOT of Hermione is tangential I'm afraid.
Carolyn: I would second both Kathy's and Jen's comments here. The two
examples you quoted are definitely ones where the Hermione code
should be removed. I think we are all learning a big practical lesson
about the perils of overcoding! Once you see a post from another POV,
you realise how unhelpful it is to have added some categories.
Sean:
#10196 is a chapter discussion which briefly adds HG as a question
for discussion. My instinct is to disallow as the the answers to that
question would be more on-topic, what do others think?
Carolyn:
Yes. Seeing things in date order really helps here. If the question
is repeated an infinite number of times in replies, then there is no
need to save the original question, especially when it is buried in a
much more general list, as appears to be the case here.
Sean:
There is a class of posts (the me too's) which are difficult to judge
but I'm strictly Grange-finding and at this rate almost half a
section of 40 posts are ineligible. I've been leaving much of the
SHIPs alone but some are obviously not Hermione-centred so they go
too.
Hurting towards 240 posts, and the number of "me toos" particularly
SHIPing related ones leads me to ask: should we not have a reject
category for them? I realize it fits under 0.5, but in a sense is
also 0.3.
Carolyn:
Keep the focus on Hermione, leave the Ship question to Ginger,
otherwise you will go mad!
We did have a much longer list of reject codes at one point, but
pruned it back because we all got confused as to what belonged where.
As long as something is rejected for a good reason, in the long run
it doesn't really matter.
There has been discussion about sorting out one or two of the reject
categories and making them available to the members in due course -
eg fanfic, movie, OT. It's a thought, but frankly one I am not
prioritising right now!
Finally, Sean, as you are going through the section, do think about
whether there are any helpful sub-categories that the remaining posts
should be sorted into. Hermione has a number of acronyms which don't
seem to have acquired many posts as yet, but they should remain for
now. But how about considering a sub-category for Hermione+house
elves issue? Just a thought.
Carolyn
Glad that a catalogue crash seems to have been solved whilst she was
asleep.
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