Hermione questions/some replies

carolynwhite2 carolynwhite2 at aol.com
Sun Feb 20 11:39:50 UTC 2005


Sean:
Just to keep things clear, I'd like a clarification from those who've 
worked on other character categories how to proceed in the following 
cases:

1. Character is mentioned in passing but not the main topic of 
discussion e.g. references Hermione briefly as part of a discussion 
centering on Harry and Ron (NOT shipping).
2. Character is part of quoted canon but not the main topic of the 
subsequent discussion e.g. quoting Hermione in canon to illustrate a 
point about Ron.

These would seem to be the only grey areas worth quibbling over?

Potioncat:
Don't we want to ask ourselves, "If I was looking for a post about 
Character is this what I'd want to find?" and if it isn't worth it 
from that PoV, it goes. 

Jen: Yes. Guilty of overcoding if a name is even mentioned in a post, 
but will stop that. Promise. You start clicking down the list and get 
in a rhythm and hoo-boy before you know it 15 categories are tagged. 
Seems like the best rule of thumb now when considering the end user 
is to look at the big picture and main topic when coding. Some posts 
are hard because they discuss multiple subjects, but it's not going 
to be perfect after all.

Sean:
Good enough for me. A LOT of Hermione is tangential I'm afraid.

Carolyn: I would second both Kathy's and Jen's comments here. The two 
examples you quoted are definitely ones where the Hermione code 
should be removed. I think we are all learning a big practical lesson 
about the perils of overcoding! Once you see a post from another POV, 
you realise how unhelpful it is to have added some categories.

Sean:
#10196 is a chapter discussion which briefly adds HG as a question 
for discussion. My instinct is to disallow as the the answers to that 
question would be more on-topic, what do others think?

Carolyn:
Yes. Seeing things in date order really helps here. If the question 
is repeated an infinite number of times in replies, then there is no 
need to save the original question, especially when it is buried in a 
much more general list, as appears to be the case here.

Sean:
There is a class of posts (the me too's) which are difficult to judge 
but I'm strictly Grange-finding and at this rate almost half a 
section of 40 posts are ineligible. I've been leaving much of the 
SHIPs alone but some are obviously not Hermione-centred so they go 
too.

Hurting towards 240 posts, and the number of "me toos" particularly 
SHIPing related ones leads me to ask: should we not have a reject 
category for them? I realize it fits under 0.5, but in a sense is 
also 0.3.

Carolyn:
Keep the focus on Hermione, leave the Ship question to Ginger, 
otherwise you will go mad!

We did have a much longer list of reject codes at one point, but 
pruned it back because we all got confused as to what belonged where. 
As long as something is rejected for a good reason, in the long run 
it doesn't really matter.

There has been discussion about sorting out one or two of the reject 
categories and making them available to the members in due course - 
eg fanfic, movie, OT. It's a thought, but frankly one I am not 
prioritising right now!

Finally, Sean, as you are going through the section, do think about 
whether there are any helpful sub-categories that the remaining posts 
should be sorted into. Hermione has a number of acronyms which don't 
seem to have acquired many posts as yet, but they should remain for 
now. But how about considering a sub-category for Hermione+house 
elves issue? Just a thought.

Carolyn
Glad that a catalogue crash seems to have been solved whilst she was 
asleep.








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