Crouch Sr & Family dynamics
carolynwhite2
carolynwhite2 at aol.com
Mon Feb 21 14:40:29 UTC 2005
Debbie:
What a tasty dish of CRAB CUSTARD this category turned out to be!
There were 218, mostly very good posts, though a significant number
probably shouldn't have been coded here. I haven't done anything to
the coding yet, because I've lost track of the guidelines and I want
to make sure I do it right.
(1) 43 posts weren't sufficiently about Crouch Sr. to be coded to
him. I think I am supposed to untick his name and add 5.6.
(2) 3 should have been coded to Jr rather than Sr. I'll switch and
add 5.6.
(3) 7 repeat points already made and should be rejected. I'll reject
and add 5.6.
(4) I would add additional codes to 4 posts. If I understand this
right, I put into the comment section what I think should be done,
add 5.6 but *don't* make the change? Or do I make the change and
comment? This is where I'm confused.
(5) Finally, the Nel question on rulebreaking was here. Do we keep
it coded to Crouch Sr? There was only a 1-word reference asking
readers to consider Crouch Sr. in analyzing the question.
Carolyn:
(1) No need to add 5.6 when just unchecking the character code.
(2) Yes, add 5.6 in these cases
(3) No need to add 5.6 unless there are other codes involved - I take
it that there are not, and that by unchecking Crouch Sr, you create a
reject situation to 0.5 or whatever?
(4) Please go ahead and make the changes. Add in the additional codes
that you think appropriate and check 5.6, also put comments in the
box whenever you like to explain why.
Essentially, it is only necessary to tick 5.6 when you make a change
that might affect a code someone else is dealing with. If your change
simply removes the code you are working on, or means that the post
ends up with no codes, and is therefore a reject, no need to tick 5.6.
(5) Slightly over to you here as I think this is one of your project,
is it not? The Nel code is there to preserve the threads related to
the Nel questions so you can revive the questions on main, if you
wish. We probably should also offer Nel as a search option, for those
that might be interested in pursuing the original discussions.
Debbie:
Back to the issue of family dynamics vs. name-specific codes. I was
mostly done with Crouch Sr. before noticing that a lot of these posts
could have been coded to family dynamics, but they were mostly about
Crouch himself. Part of the problem is that making sense of his
treatment of Barty Jr is quintessential to understanding his
character, but it also sheds light on his attitudes toward
rulebreaking, the importance of maintaining his public persona, etc.
To me, these posts were more about Crouch himself than family
dynamics. It didn't even occur to me to recode.
In my previous comment, I meant to keep *both* codes. Part of my
thinking is that readers won't be as familiar with the headings and
may not know to look under family dynamics, especially if it isn't
under character analysis. This would not be a problem, though, if
(a) we go with the subheadings under family dynamics, and (b) the
index for catalogue users includes the family dynamics subheading
under F&G as well as wherever else it appears.
Maybe I've been doing it wrong all along. For example, if I code to
Dumbledore's Agenda, am I not supposed to code to Dumbledore as well?
Carolyn:
These are good questions, Debbie, and go to the heart of the matter
in the design of the search screens. My thinking is to try and make
what is under each heading both as individual, and as consistent as
possible. Although I am a fantastic fan of Elkins, for instance, it
probably doesn't do her any service to have her lengthy essays come
up up 30 or 40 times over - I think it will annoy people in the end.
This makes me as guilty of over-coding as anyone else.
So, in the Crouch Sr case, I think you have done the right thing in
leaving most of his character posts uncoded to Crouch family
dynamics. Going back to the search and retrieve screens, we will
undoubtedly have to provide a lot of help and advice on how to get
the best out the search routines, but it does seem to me that anyone
wanting to research the Crouch family interactions will read all the
individual character posts, plus the family dynamics code. Maybe I am
wrong in this assumption ? Anyway, even if I am, the search routines
that Tim is designing will allow you to select quite a lot of codes
at once, and get a de-duped result which puts all the posts in those
sections together for you (there will be a lot, obviously, but if
it's what you want, you will be able to get it).
Dumbledore and Dumbledore's agenda is an awkward case. For a long
time I have thought they should be merged and cleaned up. There is a
specific type of post which is about what DD's strategy might be,
much else is about his character, or whether in fact he is a bumble
bee or a house elf in disguise.... I have given the pair of them to
Boyd to take care of (with strict instructions not to break the
dishwasher), and I am doing the same thing to Voldemort and V's
agenda (see spying & betrayal post yesterday).
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