UPDATE, Sunday 9th January
Debbie
elfundeb at comcast.net
Mon Jan 10 04:53:33 UTC 2005
--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "carolynwhite2"
<carolynwhite2 at a...> wrote:
> <<Debbie
> who wonders just what constitutes MD these days, as she remembers
it
> as a theory about a flawed potion>>
>
> What ???! Detention for you....
No detention, please! I didn't imagine the flawed potion debate. I
offer you the following --
>From post #39662 (Pip's original Spying Game post):
> Misinformation includes letting known enemy agents escape because
> they either have a weakness you will later be able to use or
because
> they have been given false information. One of the main subjects
of
> this post will be the idea that Dumbledore and Snape intended
Peter
> Pettigrew to escape back to Voldemort.
>
>From #39705:
Pip:
> I believe Pettigrew was 'allowed' to make contact with Voldemort,
and
> Voldemort was 'allowed' to return to his father's old home.
> Dumbledore, IMO, took every effort to make sure Voldemort didn't
> resurrect *until* Dumbledore had some control over the
circumstances.
>
> The spell Voldemort uses requires a servant's flesh and an enemy's
> blood, which are both rather widely available. It also requires
the
> bone of Voldemort's father, which is much more limited in supply
and
> could have been destroyed. The fact that it wasn't suggests that
> Dumbledore was deliberately trying to make sure Voldemort only had
> one resurrection option open to him.
>
> Once you realise that Voldemort has used Harry for the enemy
(pretty
> easy guess that he might well do that, especially after you've fed
> Voldemort-via-Harry all that guff about his mother's protection in
> his blood), a servant Dumbledore effectively provided, and has not
> been prevented from obtaining his father's body then you really,
> really start to wonder about that potion.
>From #39711:
Pip:
> >> And what did Voldemort use to create a new body? Which area is
the
> >> one where Dumbledore is most likely to receive superb advice on
how
> >> to create built-in problems? What subject is Snape most expert
in?
> >> Potions.
Marina:
> >Okay, I'm confused now. Are you arguing that the Dumbledore and
Snape
> >manipulated events at the end of PoA in order to ensure that
Voldemort
> >uses Harry's blood to resurrect himself, thus becoming potentially
> >vulnerable? But there's no indication of a connection between the
> >events in the Shrieking Shack and Voldemort's choice of
ressurection
> >spells. They're two unrelated variables. If Wormtail hadn't
escaped,
> >Voldemort would've either used someone else to cast the same
spell, or
> >he wouldn't have been resurrected at all.
Eloise:
> There's no indication of a connection, sure.
> But....I do find it interesting that he's resurrected via a
*potion*. And I
> do wonder if Voldemort, believing Snape still loyal to himself,
sent Wormtail
> to him for advice. And naturally Snape, now being on the side of
right,
> engineered, along with Dumbledore for there to be a fatal flaw
(hence the
> gleam of triumph, when Dumbledore realised the plot had succeeded).
Ok, I'd forgotten that it wasn't part of the original post, but
there was definitely a flawed potion involved. *Before* it involved
a magic dishwasher.
Debbie
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