UPDATE, Sunday 9th January

Debbie elfundeb at comcast.net
Mon Jan 10 04:53:33 UTC 2005


--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "carolynwhite2" 
<carolynwhite2 at a...> wrote:

> <<Debbie
> who wonders just what constitutes MD these days, as she remembers 
it
> as a theory about a flawed potion>>
> 
> What ???! Detention for you....

No detention, please!  I didn't imagine the flawed potion debate.  I 
offer you the following --

>From post #39662 (Pip's original Spying Game post):
> Misinformation includes letting known enemy agents escape because 
> they either have a weakness you will later be able to use or 
because 
> they have been given false information. One of the main subjects 
of 
> this post will be the idea that Dumbledore and Snape intended 
Peter 
> Pettigrew to escape back to Voldemort.
>
>From #39705:
Pip:
> I believe Pettigrew was 'allowed' to make contact with Voldemort, 
and 
> Voldemort was 'allowed' to return to his father's old home. 
> Dumbledore, IMO, took every effort to make sure Voldemort didn't 
> resurrect *until* Dumbledore had some control over the 
circumstances.
> 
> The spell Voldemort uses requires a servant's flesh and an enemy's 
> blood, which are both rather widely available. It also requires 
the 
> bone of Voldemort's father, which is much more limited in supply 
and 
> could have been destroyed. The fact that it wasn't suggests that 
> Dumbledore was deliberately trying to make sure Voldemort only had 
> one resurrection option open to him. 
> 
> Once you realise that Voldemort has used Harry for the enemy 
(pretty 
> easy guess that he might well do that, especially after you've fed 
> Voldemort-via-Harry all that guff about his mother's protection in 
> his blood), a servant Dumbledore effectively provided, and has not 
> been prevented from obtaining his father's body then you really, 
> really start to wonder about that potion.


>From #39711:
Pip:
> >> And what did Voldemort use to create a new body?  Which area is 
the 
> >> one where Dumbledore is most likely to receive superb advice on 
how 
> >> to create built-in problems? What subject is Snape most expert 
in?
> >> Potions.
Marina: 
> >Okay, I'm confused now.  Are you arguing that the Dumbledore and 
Snape
> >manipulated events at the end of PoA in order to ensure that 
Voldemort
> >uses Harry's blood to resurrect himself, thus becoming potentially
> >vulnerable?  But there's no indication of a connection between the
> >events in the Shrieking Shack and Voldemort's choice of 
ressurection
> >spells.  They're two unrelated variables.  If Wormtail hadn't 
escaped,
> >Voldemort would've either used someone else to cast the same 
spell, or
> >he wouldn't have been resurrected at all.
Eloise:
> There's no indication of a connection, sure.
> But....I do find it interesting that he's resurrected via a 
*potion*. And I 
> do wonder if Voldemort, believing Snape still loyal to himself, 
sent Wormtail 
> to him for advice. And naturally Snape, now being on the side of 
right, 
> engineered, along with   Dumbledore for there to be a fatal flaw 
(hence the 
> gleam of triumph, when Dumbledore realised the plot had succeeded).

Ok, I'd forgotten that it wasn't part of the original post, but 
there was definitely a flawed potion involved.  *Before* it involved 
a magic dishwasher.

Debbie







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