From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  1 06:44:14 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (Ginger)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:44:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Dodgy pix
In-Reply-To: <da0rqe+rjic@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050701064414.94668.qmail@web30215.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


C - realising that my knowledge of Fargo was not comprehensive 
(eg 'where is it?'), I googled you. This is N Dakota/Minnesota, 
nearly Canada?


G:  Yes, Fargo, North Dakota.  Just across the Red River of the North from Moorehead, Minnesota.  I'm about 6 blocks from Minnesota, 3 if it is flooding.

C:
I am concerned for you. Your city website offers the following 
tantalising tourist attractions:

http://www.cityoffargo.com/solidwaste/landfillequipment.htm

http://www.ci.fargo.nd.us/Police/NewWebSite/OntheBeat/swatphotos.htm

(and not an exaggeration, there are just 7 sets of photos on offer, 
and these are two of them!)


G: Fear not, we also have Bonanzaville, the Great Plains Art Meuseum, Yunker Farm (kids' meuseum- hands on learning), the Hjemkomst Center, the Fargodome, the F-M symphony, the Silver Follies, the Trollwood School for the Preforming Arts, and 3 Universities with Drama/Music programs - and that's just off the top of my head.  There is also the Red River Valley Speedway and the horseraces.  There really is a lot more culture than the landfill.  Fortunately, crime is so low around here that the police have time to train.  Just in case.  Until meth came to town, crime was exceptionally low.  But that's all of North Dakota.  My hometown had never had a murder until meth.  Now there have been about 3 in the last few years.  Sad.  It may not offer as much as a big city, but I'd hate to live in a place where I had to lock my doors.

Starting on Draco, Ginger


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From ewe2 at 4dot0.net  Fri Jul  1 15:29:20 2005
From: ewe2 at 4dot0.net (ewe2)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 01:29:20 +1000
Subject: child abuse and other amusements
Message-ID: <20050701152920.GB7320@4dot0.net>

I'm doing the historical wizards cat. No sign of SSHARP OWW posts, remove cat?

Merlin 7 to 7

to be continued...

All those in favour of giving lupinlore a smack in the mouth, raise your
hands...c'mon don't be shy...

ewe2, who will chop great swathes of the current posts to HP4GU into oblivion

-- 
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From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  1 15:41:27 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (Ginger)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 08:41:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] child abuse and other amusements
In-Reply-To: <20050701152920.GB7320@4dot0.net>
Message-ID: <20050701154127.42732.qmail@web30206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



ewe2 <ewe2 at 4dot0.net> wrote:
All those in favour of giving lupinlore a smack in the mouth, raise your
hands...c'mon don't be shy...


Ginger:

You should be ashamed of yourself!  Of all the rediculous proposals!  He isn't repeatedly inflicting us verbally, you know.  Chop off his fingers.  That'll do it.

Ginger, who upholds the right of any individual to express their opinion, but they only get one shot to do it.


		
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From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Fri Jul  1 15:47:23 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 15:47:23 -0000
Subject: child abuse and other amusements
In-Reply-To: <20050701152920.GB7320@4dot0.net>
Message-ID: <da3oib+csbb@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, ewe2 <ewe2 at 4...> wrote:
> I'm doing the historical wizards cat. No sign of SSHARP OWW posts, 
remove cat?

Help, no! That's Boyd's theory about Salazar Slytherin - it is post-
OOP, as are a number of others. And Jen had something to do with 
it..no, that was DRIBBLES..
> 
> Merlin 7 to 7
> 
> to be continued...
> 
> All those in favour of giving lupinlore a smack in the mouth, raise 
your
> hands...c'mon don't be shy...
> 
> ewe2, who will chop great swathes of the current posts to HP4GU 
into oblivion
> 

...it really gives one a warm feeling, looking forward to that





From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Fri Jul  1 16:34:43 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 16:34:43 -0000
Subject: UPDATE FOR MEG, July 1st
Message-ID: <da3rb3+o73s@eGroups.com>

Would one of you passing elves pick this up and take over to MEG?

******************************************************************
PROGRESS ON CATALOGUING PROJECT AS AT 1st July 2005

68487 posts catalogued in total
39826 posts rejected in total (58.1%)
11926 posts catalogued in June

We have reached post 61393 on the main list, the last post before 
publication of OOP. This was the target we set ourselves at the 
beginning of last month, and we have achieved it with approx three 
weeks to go before HBP is published on July 16th.

The whole group has now stopped coding and is concentrating on 
completing our category reviews by that date. Currently we have 
completed 64 of our 106 review sections.

Unfortunately our hope of launching a beta version of the catalogue 
search screens for testing by that date is now not going to be 
possible.

This programming work is solely in the hands of Paul & Tim, and both 
of them are working on other projects at present (FictionAlley and 
Accio respectively). They hope to get to the catalogue work towards 
the end of July.

The new plan, therefore, is that we get the reviews done and then 
cease activity on the catalogue so that the whole group can enjoy HBP 
mania over the summer. During this time, we hope that the UI will be 
developed, and that it can be got to work with the posts that we have 
catalogued so far. 

We suggest that this is then launched to the membership, and 
separately, the group begins work on the next set of posts (OOP and 
beyond).

*******************************************************************










From ewe2 at 4dot0.net  Fri Jul  1 16:53:26 2005
From: ewe2 at 4dot0.net (ewe2)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 02:53:26 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Re: child abuse and other amusements
In-Reply-To: <da3oib+csbb@eGroups.com>
References: <20050701152920.GB7320@4dot0.net> <da3oib+csbb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050701165326.GC7320@4dot0.net>

On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 03:47:23PM -0000, Carolyn White wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, ewe2 <ewe2 at 4...> wrote:
> > I'm doing the historical wizards cat. No sign of SSHARP OWW posts, 
> remove cat?
> 
> Help, no! That's Boyd's theory about Salazar Slytherin - it is post-
> OOP, as are a number of others. And Jen had something to do with 
> it..no, that was DRIBBLES..

Ah right you are then *twinkle*. I would never remove a category myself, that
would be Scary Stuff :)

C - re attacking current posts:
> ...it really gives one a warm feeling, looking forward to that

...would be nice to index by indivdual to make killing threads *quicker* if
you get my meaning...

-- 
sed awk grep cat dd ..Im a luser baby ,so why don't you killall -kill me.




From dicentra at xmission.com  Sat Jul  2 01:24:42 2005
From: dicentra at xmission.com (Dicentra spectabilis)
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 01:24:42 -0000
Subject: hold on....
Message-ID: <da4qcq+h4f8@eGroups.com>

Am I looking in the wrong place, or is there no code for the Pr*nk?

Are those all locked up in Sirius/Snape posts?

I swear, I will hand-code Pr*nk posts myself if only to have a
separate category. This cannot stand!

--Dicentra





From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  2 01:39:38 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (Ginger)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:39:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] hold on....
In-Reply-To: <da4qcq+h4f8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050702013938.49620.qmail@web30212.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



Dicentra spectabilis <dicentra at xmission.com> wrote:
Am I looking in the wrong place, or is there no code for the Pr*nk?

Are those all locked up in Sirius/Snape posts?

I swear, I will hand-code Pr*nk posts myself if only to have a
separate category. This cannot stand!

Ginger:  Having finished Lupin, I'd be willing to bet that they are found in large quantities in both Snape and Sirius, as well as in MWPP, but the ones about the You-Know-What itself are found under "Shrieking Shack *not PoA*", which is under back history.

Um, I take it you have issues with this issue?

Ginger, who anagrammed Draco Black Malfoy and only came up with "Lord Am A Flaby Cock", which I'm sure Draco would reject as there are 2 b's in flabby.  Among other considerations.


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From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Sat Jul  2 09:25:57 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 09:25:57 -0000
Subject: hold on....
In-Reply-To: <20050702013938.49620.qmail@web30212.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <da5mj5+skoo@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, Ginger <quigonginger at y...> 
wrote:
> 
> 
> Dicentra spectabilis <dicentra at x...> wrote:
> Am I looking in the wrong place, or is there no code for the Pr*nk?
> 
> Are those all locked up in Sirius/Snape posts?
> 
> I swear, I will hand-code Pr*nk posts myself if only to have a
> separate category. This cannot stand!
> 
> Ginger:  Having finished Lupin, I'd be willing to bet that they are 
found in large quantities in both Snape and Sirius, as well as in 
MWPP, but the ones about the You-Know-What itself are found 
under "Shrieking Shack *not PoA*", which is under back history.
> 

Carolyn:
Yes, there are two Shrieking Shack categories under 'Back History' - 
one for the POA scene, one for the Prank (labelled *not POA* for 
extra clarity).





From willsonkmom at msn.com  Sat Jul  2 12:42:51 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 12:42:51 -0000
Subject: nuts
Message-ID: <da624b+bgu6@eGroups.com>

Poll time! Is a knut a "nut" or a "canute"? No, really, I want opinions 
before I make a fool of myself on the main list. And not for the first 
time either!

Ginger, do you have the words to "A Troll is a Troll"? I can't find it 
and it sounds like that little tune could come in handy around here.

I have 2 more Gryffindors to review and that section will be done.

Kathy W.





From annemehr at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  2 13:16:59 2005
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 13:16:59 -0000
Subject: Party Time
Message-ID: <da644b+n5ru@eGroups.com>

It's my birthday!

At one time, I *was* hoping to spend the day reading HBP; however, the
publishers apparently miscalculated.  So this will have to do:

*Lays out two huge cakes (one chocolate, one almond torte), plenty of
beverages of all sorts, and a large platter of barbequed brisket
imported from Texas, with steaming stacks of corn-on-the-cob on the side*

Okay, back to the review...

~Anne





From annemehr at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  2 13:23:37 2005
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 13:23:37 -0000
Subject: nuts
In-Reply-To: <da624b+bgu6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <da64gp+38rt@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "potioncat" <willsonkmom at m...>
wrote:
> Poll time! Is a knut a "nut" or a "canute"?

I'm not sure anybody knows!  I wonder if Fry and Dale say it the same?
 If they do I'd go with that, whatever it is.

Rats.  I wish I'd thought of submitting that as a question at the
Leaky for Melissa Anelli's interview...

~Anne






From ewe2 at 4dot0.net  Sat Jul  2 15:34:08 2005
From: ewe2 at 4dot0.net (ewe2)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 01:34:08 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] nuts
In-Reply-To: <da624b+bgu6@eGroups.com>
References: <da624b+bgu6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050702153408.GD7320@4dot0.net>

On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 12:42:51PM -0000, potioncat wrote:
> Poll time! Is a knut a "nut" or a "canute"? No, really, I want opinions 
> before I make a fool of myself on the main list. And not for the first 
> time either!

can-ut according to fry and dale. i prefer fry though...

sean, munching on anne's cake...

-- 
sed awk grep cat dd ..Im a luser baby ,so why don't you killall -kill me.




From ewe2 at 4dot0.net  Sat Jul  2 15:35:23 2005
From: ewe2 at 4dot0.net (ewe2)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 01:35:23 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Party Time
In-Reply-To: <da644b+n5ru@eGroups.com>
References: <da644b+n5ru@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050702153523.GE7320@4dot0.net>

On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 01:16:59PM -0000, annemehr wrote:
> It's my birthday!
> 
> At one time, I *was* hoping to spend the day reading HBP; however, the
> publishers apparently miscalculated.  So this will have to do:
> 
> *Lays out two huge cakes (one chocolate, one almond torte), plenty of
> beverages of all sorts, and a large platter of barbequed brisket
> imported from Texas, with steaming stacks of corn-on-the-cob on the side*

Oooohhhh...*yum*

Happy birthday! chomp, chomp...

-- 
sed awk grep cat dd ..Im a luser baby ,so why don't you killall -kill me.




From stevejjen at earthlink.net  Sat Jul  2 16:30:22 2005
From: stevejjen at earthlink.net (Jen Reese)
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 16:30:22 -0000
Subject: Party Time
In-Reply-To: <da644b+n5ru@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <da6feu+ptn4@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "annemehr" <annemehr at y...> 
wrote:
> It's my birthday!
> 
> At one time, I *was* hoping to spend the day reading HBP; however, 
the
> publishers apparently miscalculated.  So this will have to do:
> 
> *Lays out two huge cakes (one chocolate, one almond torte), plenty of
> beverages of all sorts, and a large platter of barbequed brisket
> imported from Texas, with steaming stacks of corn-on-the-cob on the 
side*


"Did I hear Texas BBQ?!? Mmmmmmmm, my favorite. Thanks Anne, and a 
very big 'Happy Birthday' to you! Hey, I just noticed we're both 
crabs, as in Cancer the crab. Cheers!"

Jen, who only has to travel a few blocks for some of the finest 
brisket ever, but FREE brisket is impossible to pass up.






From zanelupin at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  2 17:23:53 2005
From: zanelupin at yahoo.com (KathyK)
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 17:23:53 -0000
Subject: Is someone else Playing with Percy?
Message-ID: <da6ij9+uvkg@eGroups.com>

Because every time I go into his category for review, there are just a 
*few* less posts. Now, I've just finished going through those coded to 
him but have not removed any codes yet--and I do have quite a list to 
uncode from his name.

So...did someone already get to him?

KathyK





From stevejjen at earthlink.net  Sat Jul  2 17:51:23 2005
From: stevejjen at earthlink.net (Jen Reese)
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 17:51:23 -0000
Subject: Two more review categories/Anyone interested in splitting a category?
Message-ID: <da6k6r+dn4i@eGroups.com>

1.1.9 Ambition 
Starting: 98
Ending: 64

Most of the posts cut only mentioned the word ambition, most often in 
relation to Percy or the Slytherins, but the posts were really about 
other topics.

**************************************
2.2.11-2.2.18 Tonks-McKinnons
Starting: 101
Ending: 59

Charlie Weasley and Mundungus were the only two with any significant 
amount of posts. Charlie's category was cut in half because most posts 
only mentioned his name. Also, much repetition on why Ron has 
Charlie's old wand.

***************************************

My next category to review will be the Hufflepuff students, then I'll 
tackle Characterisation.

Would anyone be interested in splitting Characterisation? It's 1000+ 
posts and we're leaving on vacation July 13th. Sounds like enough time 
to finish, but I'm slow, OK?

Jen






From stevejjen at earthlink.net  Sat Jul  2 17:57:58 2005
From: stevejjen at earthlink.net (Jen Reese)
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 17:57:58 -0000
Subject: Is someone else Playing with Percy?
In-Reply-To: <da6ij9+uvkg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <da6kj6+iqjj@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "KathyK" <zanelupin at y...> 
wrote:
> Because every time I go into his category for review, there are 
just a 
> *few* less posts. Now, I've just finished going through those 
coded to 
> him but have not removed any codes yet--and I do have quite a list 
to 
> uncode from his name.
> 
> So...did someone already get to him?
> 
> KathyK


Sorry, I'm the guilty party ;(. I was just going through the Charlie 
category and several posts were coded to 5+ individual Weasleys plus 
coded to the general Weasley code!! So I uncoded to the individual 
characters who weren't given more than a mention in the post and 
left the Weasley code. I'm sure a few of those were Percy. 

My only defense is that Carolyn said Boyd and I were part of the 
crew to go through all those "Review Coding" posts, so I was just 
getting a jump on things. Maybe?

Jen





From elfundeb at comcast.net  Sat Jul  2 19:38:59 2005
From: elfundeb at comcast.net (Debbie)
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 19:38:59 -0000
Subject: Party Time/Neville/AFK
In-Reply-To: <da644b+n5ru@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <da6qgj+h2ca@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "annemehr" <annemehr at y...> 
wrote:
> It's my birthday!

Happy Birthday!

> *Lays out two huge cakes (one chocolate, one almond torte), plenty 
of
> beverages of all sorts, and a large platter of barbequed brisket
> imported from Texas, with steaming stacks of corn-on-the-cob on the 
side*

Let me add to the table a couple of my favorite birthday/Fourth of 
July Red White and Blue pies (strawberry/blueberry/custard).

But first, I'm done with Neville, having failed in my mission to 
reduce it below 300.  Final count:  342.  The acronyms were hacked 
down except for MATCHING ARMCHAIR, which is stuffed with 31 posts, 
and DEPRECIATION, at 10 posts.

Unfortunately for the cataloguing project, my son's baseball team won 
the district tournament today which means I'll be out of town a 
couple of days next week at the state tournament.  Plus, I purchased 
a plane ticket yesterday and am leaving for Maine in 15 minutes to 
spend my birthday being waited on hand and foot by my in-laws.

So, instead of Parenting/Child Abuse (1.1.7), I signed up for 
Equality and Fairness (1.1.5) which has half the posts, to ensure 
that I finish by the 16th.  Carolyn, if you greatly prefer me to do  
child abuse, speak up because I won't begin until I return on Tuesday.

Debbie





From willsonkmom at msn.com  Sat Jul  2 23:28:07 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 23:28:07 -0000
Subject: Creevey Bros
Message-ID: <da77u7+4150@eGroups.com>

Happy Birthday Anne and Debbie! 

I'll add in a case of Samual Adams...given the holiday mood of the 
party.


I've one more student to go in the Griffindor Gang, but I have a 
question about the Creeveys. I've reduced it from 71 to 42 posts and un-
counting. Lots of duplicated ideas in that batch.

I know Fred and George share a code and the Creeveys do too, but I'm 
wondering if we should split the Creevey boys? Most of the posts are 
just about Colin, a few just about Denis, (or is it Dennis?) and some 
about both. It's not a big deal, and will really depend on what happens 
in the next two books.
Kathy W





From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  3 00:28:54 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (Ginger)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:28:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] nuts/Trolls/HB/Percy
In-Reply-To: <da624b+bgu6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050703002854.58931.qmail@web30202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



Responses to all:

NUTS:

Sorry, I was raised in Norweigan territory.  We had Knutsons every place you looked.  Went to school with Jodie Knutson, church with Sandy Knutson, babysat Chad Knutson, worked with a different Jodi Knutson (no relation to Jodie), lived next door to the Ken Knutsons... you get the idea.  I just can't pronounce knuts without the K at the beginning.  K'noots, to put it somewhat phoneticly.  

But then, I pronounced Hermione like Hermy-own until book 4 because I have only known one Hermione in my life and that's how she said it.  Come to think of it, she pronounced her last name wrong too.  Her husband and his family pronounced Holm as "home" with a slight added L, but Hermione pronounced it Hollum.  She always was an odd duck, maysherestinpeace.  Wrote the personal column of the local paper and couldn't get it right to save her life.  Fortunately, it was a small town, so everyone knew the correct version before the paper hit the doorstep.

TROLLS

>From memory:

A troll is a troll, and on the whole,

A troll is a soul you can't control.

So take a stroll, and set this goal:

To ignore the Dunderhead.

 

BIRTHDAYS:

YAY!  Happy Birthday to Anne and Debbie.   May you both have good ones.  I'll add some watermelon to the party.  

PERCY/ SNAPE/ MALFOYS

I haven't been playing with Percy, but I will be playing with Snape and the Malfoy parents.  I'm doing Draco now, and there are some (not many) Snape/Draco posts that are highly repetitive and have been coded to both so I am removing them. I also have a few posts that are about the Malfoy family and will be moving them there.

Speaking of Draco, I am over 2/3 done reading and expect to read the last 300 posts tonight.  It's been a surprisingly good category.  I found one that had me in tears, even though it wasn't much about Draco, I kept it there.  It was written 4 days after Sept. 11 (2001) and it would be very appropriate for the list today.  It's 26139, if anyone is interested.

That's it for now.

Ginger, who is broke and read 640 Draco posts in 18 hours without a single Frito-Lay product, and can't get Doritos off her mind.


		
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From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  3 00:42:45 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (Ginger)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:42:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Re: Party Time/Neville/AFK
In-Reply-To: <da6qgj+h2ca@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050703004247.97107.qmail@web30205.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



Debbie <elfundeb at comcast.net> wrote:
 I purchased 
a plane ticket yesterday and am leaving for Maine in 15 minutes to 
spend my birthday being waited on hand and foot by my in-laws.

Ginger:  So, Debbie, when is your birthday.  I just realized my sister, also Debbie, has her b-day on the 5th of July.  Actually, she goes by Debra now since she is a grown-up and a professional and all that, but we have called her Dobby for years.  When the CoS came out, she got a lot of teasing.

Enjoy your b-day.

Ginger, who is breaking out the credit card and going to the store.  All this food talk is making me hungry.


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From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  3 10:04:19 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (quigonginger)
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 10:04:19 -0000
Subject: Draco
Message-ID: <da8d73+9uk0@eGroups.com>

I have read all the posts in the Draco section.  

DRACO'S TRAGEDY has 3 posts in it.  All are well-written and have 
been kept there.

The main heading started at 942, but one got uncoded, so it is 941.

I will be uncoding 394.  Some of these are being moved to Malfoy 
Dynamics.  

I will be rejecting 144.  

So the total remaining posts will be 403.  (According to my math.)

Quite frankly, I'm surprised I got it that low.  There is a lot of 
good stuff in this category. 

Something to think about for the future:  If Draco doesn't show 
himself to be unredeemable in HBP, or if he doesn't side with the 
good side, we may need to add a sub categoty for that Redeemed! or 
Not! Draco.  

At this time it is manageable within the category, but the latter 
1/4th of the posts dug deeply into this debate.  The first 3/4 posts 
touched on it, but in reference to other things.  Towards the end, it 
was the topic of the posts rather than a musing within.  Some of 
these latter posts were vvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyy 
long.  

I have one question, and I know I'm going to look like an idiot, but 
I am OK with that now, thanks to my self-help tapes:

I know how to enter into the database which section I am reviewing.  
I have been to the file section.  I have opened files, including 
revised definitions, and I still have no idea what I am supposed to 
be doing there.  Could someone who is used to working with pre-
schoolers tell me that to do?  I know I have asked this before, and I 
didn't understand then either.  I just hoped to figure it out on my 
own.  I didn't.  Sorry.

Ginger, off to uncode and reject.





From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  3 12:29:37 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (quigonginger)
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 12:29:37 -0000
Subject: FYI: Posts 42701-42800
Message-ID: <da8lnh+8cks@eGroups.com>

In my rejecting, I noticed posts 42701-42800 had not yet been coded, 
so I am doing it now.  I also found 2 other scattered posts that 
weren't coded, so I coded them too.

Ginger, who will get back to Draco after this





From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  3 17:55:36 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (quigonginger)
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:55:36 -0000
Subject: clarification
Message-ID: <da98qo+rpri@eGroups.com>

In my post about Draco, I had said that the latter 1/4 were talking 
about redeemed!Draco and that this may be something to subcat in the 
future.

Just so anyone who has read the Draco file doesn't think I've been 
smoking something funnier than a Marlboro, let me clarify that.

Just about every post touches on whether Draco is evil, or bad, or 
redeemable, or some sort of ethical label.

The first ones more or less (and this is a very broad generalization) 
talk at length about an incident and have a comment as to the state 
of his morality now or in the future.  The latter ones go into detail 
about what is "good" and "evil" and just where on that scale he 
falls.  Specific incidents are referred to in passing to back up the 
statements. 

Oh, and by the way, if anyone is reviewing and sees a post and 
thinks, "Gee, this should be coded to Draco.", don't.  People 
reviewing Snape and Hermione will see Draco-less Draco posts in 
spades.  If you don't want them for your category, axe them.  I 
already did. ;)

On a different note- you know those random posts that weren't coded I 
talked about earlier?  I'm finding more.  About a half dozen aside 
from the batch of 100.  Are we missing these or is someone rejecting 
during a review and forgetting to add the reject coding?   I'm coding 
them as I go along, but so far they've all been rejects.  

Ginger, going to take a nap and then finish uncoding Draco.





From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Sun Jul  3 18:44:49 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:44:49 -0000
Subject: UPDATE, Sunday July 3rd & sundry replies
Message-ID: <da9bn1+klnv@eGroups.com>

PROGRESS
We have now coded 68590 posts, and rejected 40087 (58.4%). Please 
note that in addition to the one or two patches of uncoded posts we 
are coming across, Debbie still has to do 58501-58600 - please shriek 
if you'd like someone else to pick up this section.

REJECT STATUS
Please check the following:

Ginger: 39301, 44315
Debbie: 37518
Sean: 59120

REVIEW STATUS:
We have now done 65 of our 106 sections.

*********
Anne:
It's my birthday!

Debbie:
Plus, I purchased a plane ticket yesterday and am leaving for Maine 
in 15 minutes to spend my birthday being waited on hand and foot by 
my in-laws.

C - one day late, but I hope you both had a great day! Great nosh you 
left us...here's a fabulous British pavlova recipe which I just 
cooked up (sorry Ginger):

Meringue base:
6 egg whites (whipped to stiff peaks)
300g caster sugar
3 tablespoons cocoa powder
1 teaspoon of balsamic vinegar (yes really)
50g dark chocolate, finely chopped

Beat in the sugar a spoon at a time to the whipped egg whites. 
Sprinkle over cocoa, vinegar and chocolate and fold in gently.

Spread into a circle on silicone paper and cook at 150C/gas 2 for 
about 1 hour 15 min. Turn off oven at end of this time and leave to 
cool in the oven. It will be dry on the outside but squidgy in the 
middle.

Use a long flat knife to carefully remove the paper and place 
meringue circle on a large plate. Spread with whipped cream and pile 
on fresh raspberries or strawberries. Sprinkle more choc.

Try to prevent yourself eating it all at one sitting. 


****************
Debbie:
So, instead of Parenting/Child Abuse (1.1.7), I signed up for 
Equality and Fairness (1.1.5) which has half the posts, to ensure 
that I finish by the 16th. Carolyn, if you greatly prefer me to do 
child abuse, speak up because I won't begin until I return on Tuesday.

C - Debbie, I wouldn't inflict the child abuse category on anyone who 
didn't step up and volunteer ! Frankly, randomly deleting every other 
post would be my approach, or maybe the whole lot...

********

KathyW:
I know Fred and George share a code and the Creeveys do too, but I'm 
wondering if we should split the Creevey boys?

C - my vote is to keep them together for now till we see what 
happens. It would be just like Jo have invented them for a bit of 
background colour and nothing else. Like Kneasy, I fondly hope they 
become can(n)on fodder..but

*********
Ginger:
we may need to add a sub categoty for that Redeemed! or 
Not! Draco. 

C - I am happy to do that now if you like. It is a theme which 
constantly occurs - BetsyHP is the latest enthusiast I notice.

*******

Ginger:
I know how to enter into the database which section I am reviewing. I 
have been to the file section. I have opened files, including 
revised definitions, and I still have no idea what I am supposed to 
be doing there. 

C - never fear, there is nothing you can do with those files. I was 
hoping that I could create definition Word files which we could all 
edit, but it seems Yahoo won't let me.

So, the only way forward is for me to keep those Definitions files up 
to date myself and continually upload new versions to the group. 
Unfortunately, I am very behind with that, and I will try to make 
time to bring them up to date shortly.

Unless you meant the definitions files in the database section? All 
you have to do there is re-write the definition of the section which 
exists there after you have finished your review, and then put 
Ginger/edited to show you have done it. Shortly I will breeze through 
that database and upload the changed definitions into the live 
catalogue.

*********

Ginger:
On a different note- you know those random posts that weren't coded I 
talked about earlier? I'm finding more. About a half dozen aside 
from the batch of 100. Are we missing these or is someone rejecting 
during a review and forgetting to add the reject coding? I'm coding 
them as I go along, but so far they've all been rejects. 

C - erm, according my list that group of 100 that you found (42701-
42800) were Potioncat's, but Sean volunteered to do them, so not sure 
what happened there <g>. I also continually find odd ones not coded 
and just deal with them. Some people code by thread rather than one 
by one, and it is rather easy to miss out posts doing that. They may 
also be mis-coded rejects, as you say..

I am hoping that Paul will write me an analysis routine which will 
find such posts, but he's too busy right now.





From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Sun Jul  3 18:50:06 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:50:06 -0000
Subject: From Kelly/ re section 3.15.4.5
Message-ID: <da9c0u+6ev1@eGroups.com>

3.15.4.5 House championship, points system & house cup
------------------------------------------------------
Originally: 128
Now: 77

In addition to general speculation and clarification about the inner 
workings of the Hogwarts points system, this category contains much 
discussion of specific incidences of point-giving and -taking 
(fairness, arbitrariness, etc).  Most of the posts I cut were due to 
either too much personal opinion or repetitiveness (especially 
regarding the final cup presentation in PS/SS; the fairness of 
Dumbledore's actions has been debated to death).

-Kelly

PS Kelly has sent me an Excel file which lists the decisions on this 
section, which she describes as follows:

The table consists of all the post info in displayed on the [s] page 
for the category, with an additional column for the review status.

   0: no action required
   r: remove the category being reviewed
   m: move post to from review category to listed category

I'll only use the m option to move posts within categories I'm 
reviewing. Otherwise, I'll list the reject and add additional 
suggested moves in parentheses.

C - I will need to implement all these decisions on our database, as 
Kelly is working on a copy. 







From ewe2 at 4dot0.net  Sun Jul  3 21:08:18 2005
From: ewe2 at 4dot0.net (ewe2)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:08:18 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] UPDATE, Sunday July 3rd & sundry replies
In-Reply-To: <da9bn1+klnv@eGroups.com>
References: <da9bn1+klnv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050703210818.GB5251@4dot0.net>

On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 06:44:49PM -0000, Carolyn White wrote:

> C - erm, according my list that group of 100 that you found (42701-
> 42800) were Potioncat's, but Sean volunteered to do them, so not sure 
> what happened there <g>. I also continually find odd ones not coded 
> and just deal with them. Some people code by thread rather than one 
> by one, and it is rather easy to miss out posts doing that. They may 
> also be mis-coded rejects, as you say..

I did 'em. Have they uncoded themselves?! BTW, 59120 seems fine, it's probably
another one. 

My only gripe with the interface at the moment is not having a bigger top
frame to see more posts at one time, which would alleviate many such ills,
although I appreciate not everyone has a monitor resolution of 1600x1200.

And OT for the hell of it...we here in Australia didnt get to see live8 live
unless we had pay-TV or Internet fast enough to stream audio/video (but we did
have free-to-air commercial television that butchered a highlights package the
day after), but what I heard was remarkable and I wish I'd been there.

ewe2, hoping something good will be happening when he eventually gets over
there.

-- 
sed awk grep cat dd ..Im a luser baby ,so why don't you killall -kill me.




From ewe2 at 4dot0.net  Sun Jul  3 21:24:24 2005
From: ewe2 at 4dot0.net (ewe2)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:24:24 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] UPDATE, Sunday July 3rd & sundry replies
In-Reply-To: <20050703210818.GB5251@4dot0.net>
References: <da9bn1+klnv@eGroups.com> <20050703210818.GB5251@4dot0.net>
Message-ID: <20050703212424.GC5251@4dot0.net>

On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 07:08:18AM +1000, Sean Dwyer wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 06:44:49PM -0000, Carolyn White wrote:

> I did 'em. Have they uncoded themselves?! BTW, 59120 seems fine, it's probably
> another one. 

Found it...59119 which was supposed to have been fixed, grrr. Naughty bad
post. 

In other news, one of the Twelve Apostles, a bunch of bits of the southern
Victorian coast which got surrounded by the sea and consequently look pretty,
collapsed. A 15yo boy just happened to be there and took these pix:

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,15813274%255E601,00.html

Reminds me of another bit of coast further along that we used to call London
Bridge and guess what it did? I wish it could have been another Apostle, that
one was one of my favourites, up there with the pointy one and the the really
big one.

-- 
sed awk grep cat dd ..Im a luser baby ,so why don't you killall -kill me.




From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  4 04:12:32 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (quigonginger)
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 04:12:32 -0000
Subject: Draco done- on to teachers
Message-ID: <daacvg+jsff@eGroups.com>

Draco is done.  Was 942 posts plus 3 DRACO'S TRAGEDY. 
Now 409+3.

There are about 900 synonyms for twit.  I should have kept a record.

If we add the new category, it should be strictly for Redeemed!Draco 
and arguements rather than ESE!Draco as pretty much every Draco post 
is an ESE post.  The difference would be that the subcategory would 
be discussions of whether or not he can/will be redeemed with canon 
as evidence as opposed to discussion of canon with a comment on 
whether or not the individual canon discussed shows any indication of 
redeemability.  Clear as mud, right?  Thought so.

Allow me to illustrate.  Pardon the lack of flannelgraph.

New category example:

Draco will never be redeemed as he crossed the line with what he said 
about Cedric being the first and Mudbloods and muggle-lovers next.  
He has shown racist tendencies (ie his calling Hermione a Mudblood) 
in the past, but gloating over a fellow student's death is over the 
limit. (Continue in that vein, with canon examples)

Not a new category example: (keep in main):

Draco was over the edge with his comment about Cedric being the 
first.  I have to wonder why he would be gloat over the death of a 
Pureblood, especially one he had been supporting as champion.  Is he 
glad that LV is back, no matter what the collateral damage?  Does he 
believe Harry is culpable and is rubbing it in?  Why would he say 
such a terrible thing?  (Continue discussing that incident)

Does that make it clearer?

No?  Ask me later.  I'll be glad to elucidate.  As it is, I am not 
lucid at the moment, having spent a total of 4 waking hours away from 
Draco this weekend (well, away from the computer- I did stop to catch 
up on the main list, HH, TOC, and write a filk).

Moving on, I have signed up for teachers 2.03.9-2.03.20 except Minnie.

Re: my question about files.  I was wondering because Potioncat (I 
think) had written a reminder to update both the database and files 
and I had no clue what she was talking about.  I know you, Carolyn, 
responded that you were lax on that.  I assumed the reminder was to 
all of us.  I'll just keep using the database and let those who have 
a clue deal with the rest.

Ginger, who found a good thought in that batch of 100 which she will 
bring up to the list.





From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  4 09:35:24 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (quigonginger)
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 09:35:24 -0000
Subject: Ghost in the Machine
Message-ID: <daavss+h8sa@eGroups.com>

Ok, either something is haunted around here or my computer is whacked, 
but I put myself in the database for teachers from Binns to Vector 
other than McGonnagal, read the posts, made my notes and went to 
uncode/reject and after doing about a half dozen found that THEY HAD 
ALREADY BEEN DONE!  Now this would not have been spooky had I started 
doing this several days ago, but as I hit the printout of them THEY 
WERE CHANGING RIGHT BEFORE MY EYES! 

Which either means someone else is doing them at the exact same moment 
as I am or MY COMPUTER IS HAUNTED!

I am going to stop right now.  If no one speaks up, I will continue 
with this tomorrow when I am sane.  If someone else is doing them- go 
right ahead and finish and I will do something else, but PLEASE speak 
up as I am quite rattled right now thinking that computermort has some 
sort of phychic entry into my brain via scar connection.  (I do have a 
scar on my forehead.)

Ginger, the quaking





From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  4 09:43:59 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (quigonginger)
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 09:43:59 -0000
Subject: Other Wizard Characters
Message-ID: <dab0cv+8q4k@eGroups.com>

Ok, as I am not sure if I am doing teachers or not, I have signed up 
for Other Wizard Characters.  2.11.1-2.11.23.

If I am doing teachers, I'll finish that too.

I will not be doing it tonight.  I think I need to take to my bed.  
With something strong.

Ginger, feeling odd.





From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Mon Jul  4 11:05:00 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 11:05:00 -0000
Subject: Ghost in the Machine/Hey, think before you decode!
In-Reply-To: <daavss+h8sa@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dab54s+s9sg@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "quigonginger" 
<quigonginger at y...> wrote:
> Ok, either something is haunted around here or my computer is 
whacked, 
> but I put myself in the database for teachers from Binns to Vector 
> other than McGonnagal, read the posts, made my notes and went to 
> uncode/reject and after doing about a half dozen found that THEY HAD 
> ALREADY BEEN DONE!  Now this would not have been spooky had I started 
> doing this several days ago, but as I hit the printout of them THEY 
> WERE CHANGING RIGHT BEFORE MY EYES! 
> 

Carolyn:
Um, undoubtedly what's happening is that people are taking off more 
than the code they are dealing with as they sort out another category. 
I know we kind of agreed this was ok, on the grounds that it might be 
the last chance that a post was reviewed, but unfortunately it could 
waste other people's time - as here, when poor Ginger has carefully 
gone through and decided what to do with a bunch..

This is really tricky and I don't know quite how to prevent it, other 
than not touching category codes which are yet to be worked on - you'll 
need to check the database for which ones those are. And, please note, 
if you remove codes on categories that HAVE been reviewed, that means 
you are disagreeing with the person who has recently read that section 
all the way through, so think twice about doing that too...






From annemehr at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  4 12:06:44 2005
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 12:06:44 -0000
Subject: Just For A Laugh
Message-ID: <dab8ok+3sg4@eGroups.com>

I added this category to a post the other day -- it's #22917.  It
consists of a newspaper article that Magda Grantwitch found about some
wacked-out psychological study of HP ("psycho" being the operative term).

Here you go, for your reading pleasure:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This is in today's [July 24, 2001] National Post (Canada) newspaper.
Comments
anyone?

HARRY POTTER ARTICLE

Harry Potter appeals to the masses because it satisfies our
subconscious Oedipal fantasies, says a British study. The popular
children's books represent the fulfillment of readers' suppressed
Freudian desires to kill their father to be closer to their mother,
according to the study published in the summer issue of the journal
Psychoanalytic Studies.

"The Harry Potter character almost certainly would have had murderous
fantasies but he is in the unfortunate position of them having come
true. As a reader, there is the satisfaction of the fantasy without
the awfulness of the reality," said Kelly Noel-Smith, author of the
study.

In the books, which have been made into a movie to be released this
fall, Harry Potter is an orphaned wizard whose father is killed
trying to save the boy and his mother.

"Harry knows that his father died to preserve the exclusive
relationship of Harry and his mother," the paper argues.

The fact his mother is also killed by Lord Voldemort, an evil wizard,
leaving Harry unable to live out any subconscious sexual desire for
her, does not negate murderous fantasies the character would have
harboured before his parents died, said Ms. Noel-Smith.

It might even hint at what Sigmund Freud theorized was a common
childhood struggle with bisexual feelings, leaving Harry with
ambivalent feelings toward both parents, she said.

Ms. Noel-Smith, who was interested in researching the universal
appeal of the books that have sold 100 million copies and been
translated into 42 languages, said J.K. Rowling, the author, likely
shares the same subconscious fantasies as her readers.

"She has more ability to express them in a creative way than the rest
of us. People who are successful with literature are more able to
access the energy from suppressed Oedipal fantasies. If you believe
Freud, as I do, everyone has Oedipal issues," said Ms. Noel-Smith, an
attorney and Masters student in psychoanalysis at the internationally
recognized Tavistock Clinic and the University of East London.

Harry Potter, the bespectacled hero, represents the readers' ego,
which explains why millions of people identify with the character's
loss of his parents, argues the study. The research cites a number of
Oedipal references in the books, including Harry's facial scar,
inflicted when the evil wizard's curse rebounded off him during the
attack on his family, which the study says "brings to mind other
special marks, for example, the scars Oedipus had on his feet, where
his parents pierced them before they left him to die, the mark of
Cain, who murdered his brother, and the stigmata of Christ, who,
being the Son of Man, was murdered by his collective parents."

Lord Voldemort is "the repository of evil" that allows Harry to
idealize his parents in a way that would not have been possible when
they were alive, according to the study.

Ms. Noel-Smith said she has sent Ms. Rowling's publisher a copy of
her research but has not heard back from the author. Ms. Rowling and
her agent were not available to comment yesterday.

Allan MacDougall, president of Raincoast Books, the Canadian
publisher of Harry Potter books, said Ms. Rowling would likely find
it amusing and admits her books come from her subconscious.

However, he dismissed the study's arguments as largely spurious. "The
author may be an excellent student of Freud but that is not how
people buy books. They buy them because of recommendations and
reviews, not because they have Oedipus references."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


~Anne
assuring Ginger that she has not been touching teacher codes; just
trying to get through Harry's is enough to be going on with...





From stevejjen at earthlink.net  Mon Jul  4 17:03:53 2005
From: stevejjen at earthlink.net (Jen Reese)
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:03:53 -0000
Subject: Ghost in the Machine/Hey, think before you decode!
In-Reply-To: <dab54s+s9sg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dabq5p+tj1c@eGroups.com>

> Carolyn:
> Um, undoubtedly what's happening is that people are taking off
> more than the code they are dealing with as they sort out another
> category. I know we kind of agreed this was ok, on the grounds
> that it might be the last chance that a post was reviewed, but 
> unfortunately it could waste other people's time - as here, when 
> poor Ginger has carefully gone through and decided what to do with
> a bunch..
 
> This is really tricky and I don't know quite how to prevent it,
> other than not touching category codes which are yet to be worked
> on - you'll need to check the database for which ones those are.
> And, please note, if you remove codes on categories that HAVE been
> reviewed, that means you are disagreeing with the person who has 
> recently read that section all the way through, so think twice
> about doing that too...


Jen: It wasn't me this time!! I've been very good sticking only to 
my code for the last two sections I reviewed, esp. after messing up 
Potioncat's review. But it does sound like someone has taken on the 
Binns-Vector section without signing up for it?? Since the exact 
same posts you're working on are changing. I don't think it's your 
sanity or computer <g>.





From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  4 18:06:16 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (Ginger)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:06:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Re: Ghost in the Machine/Hey, think before you decode!
In-Reply-To: <dabq5p+tj1c@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050704180617.27983.qmail@web30210.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


> Carolyn:
> Um, undoubtedly what's happening is that people are taking off
> more than the code they are dealing with as they sort out another
> category. I know we kind of agreed this was ok, on the grounds
> that it might be the last chance that a post was reviewed, but 
> unfortunately it could waste other people's time - as here, when 
> poor Ginger has carefully gone through and decided what to do with
> a bunch..

> This is really tricky and I don't know quite how to prevent it,
> other than not touching category codes which are yet to be worked
> on - you'll need to check the database for which ones those are.
> And, please note, if you remove codes on categories that HAVE been
> reviewed, that means you are disagreeing with the person who has 
> recently read that section all the way through, so think twice
> about doing that too...


Jen: It wasn't me this time!! I've been very good sticking only to 
my code for the last two sections I reviewed, esp. after messing up 
Potioncat's review. But it does sound like someone has taken on the 
Binns-Vector section without signing up for it?? Since the exact 
same posts you're working on are changing. I don't think it's your 
sanity or computer <g>.

Ginger:

Upon further review, and after a nice nap, what seems to have happened has only applied to a few posts that were under the same teacher.  The teacher in question was a mere "standing in the room" sort and should have been uncoded.  I think someone else realized that and was saving me the trouble.  It just sort of freaked me out.  And the weather wasn't cooperate and the lights flickered around that time.

I quit and freaked out before looking through the rest of the categories.  So it was only one or two that were effected.

In looking at the other teachers, the ones that have virtually no posts, they are totally unchanged.  

My guess is someone else was doing another subject completely and my teachers just happened to be there.  I was really worried that I was stepping on someone else's toes and that someone else had started the teachers and I was messing with them too.

I have done this on the Lupin and Draco categories, especially if they need to go under dynamics, ie removing Narcissa (who hasn't been done yet).  I guess it was just coincidental timing.  

Sorry for freaking out like that. 

Back to your regularly scheduled programs.

Ginger


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From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  4 18:20:33 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (quigonginger)
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 18:20:33 -0000
Subject: OK, you guys can just shoot me now
Message-ID: <dabulh+kn42@eGroups.com>

I went back to coding.  I am the stupidest idiot that ever lived.

I had listed the post numbers in order as there are some that needed 
more than one teacher removed. 

I started doing the review.  There were some that had been done and a 
couple I did myself.  The ones I had done were the ones that were 
disappearing and the others that seemed to have been done *should* 
have been "club" rather than "group", but were on the same general 
topic as their corrosponding "group" posts.  So I looked and saw 
posts that were in general about gays and the portrayal of women in 
the Potterverse and assumed they were the ones I was uncoding, which 
were also about gays and women in the PV.  

So I went back to my master list and saw that they should have been 
club, and am now fixing this with a face TOTALLY covered with egg.

I honestly can't believe I was so stupid.  I don't usually get panic 
attacks and will henceforth shut off the computer and take a nap 
before I post anything.

Ginger, who can't believe she was such an idiot and begs the 
forgiveness of the group.





From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  4 19:38:20 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (quigonginger)
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 19:38:20 -0000
Subject: Teachers
Message-ID: <dac37c+dll9@eGroups.com>

Ok, once again, I apologize for having been an idiot.  To add insult 
to injury, one of the posts I thought had already been done was the 
result of my not being able to read my own handwriting and ending up 
in the wrong post in a thread about teachers.

Geesh.  I promise I will do better in the future.  


So, to teachers:
Binns: was 32, now 22
Grubbly-Plank: was 6, now 5
Hooch:  was 14, now 9
Kettleburn: was 2, now 2
Ogg: was 5, now 3
Pince: was 12, now 9
Pomfrey: was 65, now 52
Pringle: was 5, now 4
Sinistra: was 48, now 28
Sprout: was 18, now 12
Vector: was 5, now 2

Quite a bit of the uncoding was due to posts talking about teachers 
which talked about the main characters and added "we don't know much 
about so-and-so" for the unknowns.

There was a lot of talk about Sinistra's gender.  I kept only the 
more creative posts explaining why dancing with Moody was not enough 
to determine gender.  I only kept one of several who brought this 
subject up in the first place.  They should have known better.  
Fortunately, JKR has cleared this up.

Hooch and Pomphrey lost a few to Rita (Catlady).  Her original post 
explaining her version of their background was kept, but later side 
references were uncoded (ie, someone wonders if MM and DD are a 
couple and she only states the she is a MM/Hooch shipper without 
adding to that.)

Quite a bit of what is still there is about stereotypes.  Pince and 
Poppy in women's roles, and Hooch and G-P as stereotype lesbians.  
Binns as a dull history teacher.  

Ogg and most of Pringle are in relation to Molly and Arthur's ages.  

On an unrelated note:  I signed up for Other Wizard Characters.  It 
says 1-23 in the database.  I am assuming that Dippet, #24, was added 
after the database was created, and I am including him with the 
others.

Ginger, apologizing once again for being such a scaredy-cat and twit.





From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Mon Jul  4 20:17:34 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 20:17:34 -0000
Subject: Live8
In-Reply-To: <20050703210818.GB5251@4dot0.net>
Message-ID: <dac5gu+1cg0@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, ewe2 <ewe2 at 4...> wrote:

> 
> And OT for the hell of it...we here in Australia didnt get to see 
live8 live
> unless we had pay-TV or Internet fast enough to stream audio/video 
(but we did
> have free-to-air commercial television that butchered a highlights 
package the
> day after), but what I heard was remarkable and I wish I'd been there.
> 
> ewe2, hoping something good will be happening when he eventually gets 
over
> there.
> 

Here's what they thought of it in Africa:

http://thinkersroom.blogspot.com/2005/06/live-aid-please.html





From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Mon Jul  4 20:20:09 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 20:20:09 -0000
Subject: OK, you guys can just shoot me now
In-Reply-To: <dabulh+kn42@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dac5lp+6bbj@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "quigonginger" 
<quigonginger at y...> wrote:
> I went back to coding.  I am the stupidest idiot that ever lived.
> 
> 
> Ginger, who can't believe she was such an idiot and begs the 
> forgiveness of the group.

Hey, not to worry Ginger - we could have been tripping over each other! 
Glad we got to the bottom of it anyway. Remember: never trust anything 
when you can't see where it keeps its brain..

Carolyn





From ewe2 at 4dot0.net  Mon Jul  4 21:02:12 2005
From: ewe2 at 4dot0.net (ewe2)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 07:02:12 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Re: Live8
In-Reply-To: <dac5gu+1cg0@eGroups.com>
References: <20050703210818.GB5251@4dot0.net> <dac5gu+1cg0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050704210212.GD5251@4dot0.net>

On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 08:17:34PM -0000, Carolyn White wrote:

> Here's what they thought of it in Africa:
> 
> http://thinkersroom.blogspot.com/2005/06/live-aid-please.html

Ouch. A lot of ouchies. I think this comment summed it up best:

This is a great post and reflects my feelings and thoughts to the letter. I
want to take issue with anonymous who seems to be of the impression that
Africans who do not apreciate the Geldof's of the world are giving a free pass
to the Mugabes. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, aid and
charity have been intimately connected to dictatorship in Africa. Most
governments face the West more than they do their own people because they know
there is a ready source of funds to be gained based on the misery of their
people. The incentives are perverse. It is only by rejecting the centrality of
Western charity to our lives that we shall begin to deal with our problems on
the basis that no one is going to save us except ourselves.

And on this matter of being saved. Africa has been a perpetual charity project
for the west for the last few hundred years. Even during the height of slavery
and colonialism, the mission was always represented as one of mercy and
salvation. When King Leopold II of Belgium did away with ten million
Congolese, effectively halving the country's population, between 1880 and
1920, he was doing so in the name of saving a benighted people. How ironic
that the band wagon rolls on, how ironic and disgusting that Africa's leaders
and NGO junkies still turn to the very Belgium, Britain, France etc to save
us. How many lessons must we learn before it finally dawns on us that there is
no-one looking out for you?

MMK (http://www.blogger.com/profile/7421895)

That said, I still think removing a compound interest debt isn't a bad thing.
I only wish it was for all third world countries, and not so they can sell
their governments more weapons.

Go here for my own pomposity:

http://ewe2.ath.cx/blog/?p=3

-- 
sed awk grep cat dd ..Im a luser baby ,so why don't you killall -kill me.




From stevejjen at earthlink.net  Mon Jul  4 22:46:08 2005
From: stevejjen at earthlink.net (Jen Reese)
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 22:46:08 -0000
Subject: Hufflepuff students review
Message-ID: <dace7g+oidi@eGroups.com>

Cedric/Ernie/Susan/Justin
Starting posts: 105
Ending: 82

Most posts were about Cedric. The ones cut only mentioned his name in 
passing or were repetitive.


***The only notable thing about this category is we need to add Hannah 
Abbott since she will likely be discussed in post-OOTP posts***


Jen, who will start wading through Characterisation and get as much 
done as possible prior to vacation next week.





From willsonkmom at msn.com  Tue Jul  5 02:36:37 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 02:36:37 -0000
Subject: Several topics
Message-ID: <dacrnl+cu0f@eGroups.com>

Wow! Isn't this a holiday? Looks like everyone has been busy. I've 
been in New Jersey.

To answer Ginger's question, in the database there is the Allocation 
of Review Sections and under it are the three main headings further  
broken down.(text, characters, wizarding world) Sometimes a section 
is signed up for in one but not the other. 

Removing other codes: I've been tempted myself and have tried to only 
tweak ones that I thought no one else had started on. While doing the 
Gryffindor kids, I was tempted to include the other Patil twin, but 
because someone was signed up for Ravenclaw, I left her alone.

There was a very funny run of posts that appeared after Catlady gave 
the sister a name before JKR did. I'm not sure what I did with those. 
They added nothing to any understanding of HP books, but showed a bit 
of HPfGU-life.

Keeping the Creeveys as one code works fine. If we ever decide to 
split them it shouldn't be too hard. I removed quite a few which in 
several cases left a post with one code, that I thought should be 
rejected. I removed the boys and added Review Post with a note.

I should be done with Gryffindor soon and have signed up for 
possessions...I think.
Kathy W.





From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  5 12:13:45 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (Ginger)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 05:13:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Several topics
In-Reply-To: <dacrnl+cu0f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050705121345.35919.qmail@web30207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



potioncat <willsonkmom at msn.com> wrote:
Wow! Isn't this a holiday? Looks like everyone has been busy. I've 
been in New Jersey.

To answer Ginger's question, in the database there is the Allocation 
of Review Sections and under it are the three main headings further  
broken down.(text, characters, wizarding world) Sometimes a section 
is signed up for in one but not the other. 


Ginger:

Bless you!  I have been looking under Files rather than under Database.  I found what you were talking about and added my name where applicable.  Fortunately, someone else added me to some to it.  Thank you, whoever you are!


To explain the ghost problem:  I had lined up all the posts in numerical order.  I uncoded Poppy from the first, Poppy and Sprout from the second.  

Then I went to the third.  My connection is slow, so the post takes a bit to pop on to the screen.  I had been planning on uncoding Poppy, but the post was already rejected by Barry.  I was excited that he was back reviewing with us, and never thought that I maybe should have been in club.  The next post was the exact same thing.  I assumed Barry was reviewing something to do with healthcare and went on.  Both times I went on without waiting for the post to pop up.

The next post was coded by Jayne, which sent up a warning flag.  This was the one I realized I had misread my handwriting on, and it took me to a post again coded by Barry, but coded to Snape.  I had been intending to uncode Sprout.  In the time it took for the post to appear, I remembered that there had been a post about Snape and his teaching methods where the poster had said something along the lines of "I'd rather have Sprout."  It was a long post with big paragraphs, so when a long post with big paragraphs appeared with the subject "Snape's teaching methods", I assumed it was the same.

Then I wondered why Barry was uncoding both Poppy and Sprout.  I totally forgot that I had done 2 posts at the beginning, so when I checked them there were posts missing from both.  I panicked, figuring Barry was doing my category, but then figured that Snape, Poppy and Sprout deal with Potions, Herbs and healing, so they were all related and that explained it.

My next post was to uncode Sinistra, who has nothing at all to do with those topics.  All the rejected posts of hers were about her gender and if we could tell it by her dancing with Moody, some of which strayed into the gay category.

I typed in that post, which should have been club, and got a post, again coded by Barry, but rather than rejected, was coded to the gay category.  That's why I was convinced that someone else (Barry) was doing teachers.  I didn't want to send out a post naming him so as to cause him embarrassment (can't let that happen) so I asked if "someone" was doing teachers, fully expecting that he would respond.  

Then the freaky paranormal stuff kicked in and I lost it.  Actually, I think it was a storm and a squirrel on the roof, but one never knows.

Ginger, who will limit today's reviewing to Andromeda Tonks.


		
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From elfundeb at comcast.net  Tue Jul  5 17:04:37 2005
From: elfundeb at comcast.net (Debbie)
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:04:37 -0000
Subject: UPDATE, Sunday July 3rd & sundry replies
In-Reply-To: <da9bn1+klnv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <daeej5+ls7r@eGroups.com>

Carolyn:

Debbie still has to do 58501-58600 - please shriek 
> if you'd like someone else to pick up this section.

Shriek!  Actually, it was done, just not double-checked and marked 
off the list.

Carolyn:
> Debbie:
> So, instead of Parenting/Child Abuse (1.1.7), I signed up for 
> Equality and Fairness (1.1.5) which has half the posts, to ensure 
> that I finish by the 16th. Carolyn, if you greatly prefer me to do 
> child abuse, speak up because I won't begin until I return on 
Tuesday.
> 
> C - Debbie, I wouldn't inflict the child abuse category on anyone 
who 
> didn't step up and volunteer ! Frankly, randomly deleting every 
other 
> post would be my approach, or maybe the whole lot...

I will keep E&F for now, since we have devised alternative 
methodologies for dealing with child abuse. ;-)

And thanks for the birthday wishes!

> Ginger:  So, Debbie, when is your birthday.  I just realized my 
sister, also Debbie, has her b-day on the 5th of July.  Actually, 
she goes by Debra now since she is a grown-up and a professional and 
all that, but we have called her Dobby for years.  When the CoS came 
out, she got a lot of teasing.

It was the 3rd.  And I should probably go by Debra since I'm a grown-
up (at least chronologically) and a professional, but Debra always 
sounds like somebody else.

Debbie
picking up her axe and getting back to work









From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Tue Jul  5 19:44:37 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 19:44:37 -0000
Subject: Several topics
In-Reply-To: <20050705121345.35919.qmail@web30207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <daenv5+fevv@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, Ginger <quigonginger at y...> 
wrote:

  That's why I was convinced that someone else (Barry) was doing 
teachers.  I didn't want to send out a post naming him so as to cause 
him embarrassment (can't let that happen) so I asked if "someone" was 
doing teachers, fully expecting that he would respond.  
> 

Relax m'dear. Barry isn't reviewing, just amusing himself winding up 
TOC ...he's done a lot for us. Can't expect more. 

C.





From ewe2 at 4dot0.net  Wed Jul  6 02:38:05 2005
From: ewe2 at 4dot0.net (ewe2)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:38:05 +1000
Subject: historical query
Message-ID: <20050706023805.GF5251@4dot0.net>

Does anyone know off-hand how many members the List had when OotP came out? I
know the postings have approximately doubled, is the case for the membership
too (it being impossible to find this out from yahoo itself)?

-- 
sed awk grep cat dd ..Im a luser baby ,so why don't you killall -kill me.




From zanelupin at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  6 04:01:53 2005
From: zanelupin at yahoo.com (KathyK)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 04:01:53 -0000
Subject: historical query
In-Reply-To: <20050706023805.GF5251@4dot0.net>
Message-ID: <dafl3h+7drv@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, ewe2 <ewe2 at 4...> wrote:
> Does anyone know off-hand how many members the List had when OotP 
came out? I
> know the postings have approximately doubled, is the case for the 
membership
> too (it being impossible to find this out from yahoo itself)?


KathyK:

I can't remember, exactly, but I know it was below 10,000.  I found 
a discussion on OTC, started by Petra, that had this post by Anne U, 
placing membership at about 7500 at OoP's release:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/17062

Also, when looking at the currrent membership numbers, keep in mind 
that prior to Yahoomort wreaking havoc with Groups in March, the 
bouncing members were not included in the counted membership numbers 
listed on the home page.  I think we were still hovering somewhere 
in the 13000 range before the change that bloated the membership to 
its current numbers.  

KathyK





From ewe2 at 4dot0.net  Wed Jul  6 04:28:24 2005
From: ewe2 at 4dot0.net (ewe2)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:28:24 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Re: historical query
In-Reply-To: <dafl3h+7drv@eGroups.com>
References: <20050706023805.GF5251@4dot0.net> <dafl3h+7drv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050706042824.GG5251@4dot0.net>

On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 04:01:53AM -0000, KathyK wrote:
> I can't remember, exactly, but I know it was below 10,000.  I found 
> a discussion on OTC, started by Petra, that had this post by Anne U, 
> placing membership at about 7500 at OoP's release:

<snip>

Thanks Kathy! I'm writing a semi-serious little roundup of the HP list fandom
and was wondering whether the membership was proportional to the postings.
Interesting that the proportions appear roughly 1:1.


-- 
sed awk grep cat dd ..Im a luser baby ,so why don't you killall -kill me.




From ewe2 at 4dot0.net  Wed Jul  6 08:41:07 2005
From: ewe2 at 4dot0.net (ewe2)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:41:07 +1000
Subject: Just for your amusement
Message-ID: <20050706084107.GH5251@4dot0.net>

I've completed a scholarly thesis on HP fandom as found on the List if you're
interested: 

http://ewe2.ath.cx/blog/2005/07/06/a-harry-potter-round-up/

ewe2, the mad blogger


-- 
sed awk grep cat dd ..Im a luser baby ,so why don't you killall -kill me.




From arrowsmithbt at btconnect.com  Wed Jul  6 08:43:51 2005
From: arrowsmithbt at btconnect.com (Barry Arrowsmith)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:43:51 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Re: Several topics
In-Reply-To: <daenv5+fevv@eGroups.com>
References: <daenv5+fevv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <235E7400-8BEC-48A6-ABEE-5A744C360ADF@btconnect.com>


On 5 Jul 2005, at 20:44, carolynwhite2 wrote:

> --- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, Ginger <quigonginger at y...>
> wrote:
>
>   That's why I was convinced that someone else (Barry) was doing
> teachers.  I didn't want to send out a post naming him so as to cause
> him embarrassment (can't let that happen) so I asked if "someone" was
> doing teachers, fully expecting that he would respond.
>

Not I.
Haven't  participated in coding for some weeks now. My tolerance  
levels for repetition, SHIPs, repetition, stupidity and repetition  
were too low to register on the dip-stick and friends and neighbours   
were starting to mutter about compulsory Anger Management  
counselling. For the same reasons I've avoided browsing posts on the  
main board. A sensitive soul can only take so  much.

Can't  think why my label keeps popping up on posts --  or at least  
not ones coded recently. Maybe somebody has been a bit sloppy logging  
in and clicking on the wrong name.

Kneasy



From willsonkmom at msn.com  Wed Jul  6 11:12:50 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:12:50 -0000
Subject: Gryffindors
Message-ID: <dagebi+7r8d@eGroups.com>

Numbers have been reduced. If anyone really wants them, I'll post 
them.  SAGA FAKED is 0, BTW.

As I was reviewing, I realized a lot of the general discussions of 
Gryffindor students fit best under the single code of Gryffindor. That 
might be something to think of when we start up again. Was that the 
case with the other houses? 

Kathy W.





From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  6 11:57:43 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (Ginger)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 04:57:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Re: Several topics
In-Reply-To: <235E7400-8BEC-48A6-ABEE-5A744C360ADF@btconnect.com>
Message-ID: <20050706115743.8648.qmail@web30215.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


Barry:
Not I.
Haven't  participated in coding for some weeks now. My tolerance  
levels for repetition, SHIPs, repetition, stupidity and repetition  
were too low to register on the dip-stick and friends and neighbours   
were starting to mutter about compulsory Anger Management  
counselling. For the same reasons I've avoided browsing posts on the  
main board. A sensitive soul can only take so  much.


Ginger:  too true.

Barry:
Can't  think why my label keeps popping up on posts --  or at least  
not ones coded recently. Maybe somebody has been a bit sloppy logging  
in and clicking on the wrong name.

Ginger:  Nope, the posts in question were ones I was looking at as I was reviewing.  None had a message number above 5000.  Since there were so few of you coding back then, it only makes sense that I happened upon 4 coded by you.

Odd little coincidence, though, don't you think?

Ginger, reviewing Phineas and Stubby today.



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From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Wed Jul  6 19:23:06 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:23:06 -0000
Subject: Several topics
In-Reply-To: <235E7400-8BEC-48A6-ABEE-5A744C360ADF@btconnect.com>
Message-ID: <dahb2q+1r71@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, Barry Arrowsmith 
<arrowsmithbt at b...> wrote:
> 
For the same reasons I've avoided browsing posts on the  
> main board. A sensitive soul can only take so  much.


I've just noticed that Alla has been made an Elf. It is simply not 
possible for HPfGU to sink any lower in my estimation. Alla is 
responsible for the most rock bottom posts on the list. To imagine that 
she is acting in any quality control capacity is beyond comment. I will 
never post there again.

Carolyn





From annemehr at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  6 13:09:15 2005
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:09:15 -0000
Subject: Just for your amusement
In-Reply-To: <20050706084107.GH5251@4dot0.net>
Message-ID: <dagl5r+k9st@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, ewe2 <ewe2 at 4...> wrote:
> I've completed a scholarly thesis on HP fandom as found on the List
if you're
> interested: 
> 
> http://ewe2.ath.cx/blog/2005/07/06/a-harry-potter-round-up/
> 
> ewe2, the mad blogger

I was amused!  Thanks.

One additional list phenomenon, post-new-canon, that I didn't see you
mention: there's the fact that so many people just *have* to write a
post saying "How did Lucius know Sirius was the dog? Is there a spy in
the Order?" and slap it up with their name on it despite the fact that
several dozen other listies have already done so.  This of course,
along with all the other low-wattage posts, leads to the situation
where it is now *impossible* to read all the posts before writing one
of your own, unless you have literally nothing else to do.

Then each of these posts spawns an entire thread in which no-one seems
ever to stop to think that perhaps, as it *says in the book,* Wormtail
will have informed LV and the DEs about Sirius' canine form.  But,
hey.  They're *theorising,* the dears.

*rolls eyes*

Right.  Back to Harry recoding.  I'm almost up to where I'd hoped to
be by the end of July 4.

~Anne






From willsonkmom at msn.com  Wed Jul  6 23:32:48 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 23:32:48 -0000
Subject: Several topics
In-Reply-To: <dahb2q+1r71@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dahpn0+u212@eGroups.com>

 
> Carolyn:
> I've just noticed that Alla has been made an Elf. It is simply not 
> possible for HPfGU to sink any lower in my estimation. Alla is 
> responsible for the most rock bottom posts on the list. To imagine 
that 
> she is acting in any quality control capacity is beyond comment. I 
will 
> never post there again.


Kathy W:
Now, now, come have a cup of tea. Look at all the work you've put 
into HPfGU. If folk like Kneasy and you keep abandoning the list, 
what's to come of us?

I think Alla will do fine. She isn't responsible for determining 
quality posts, but for upholding certain 'rules'. She's brought out 
some old Fantastic Posts on her own and re-generated new threads 
around them, and she seems to care about HPfGU. 

I don't always agree with her, but she and I can argue without coming 
to blows and most important of all, she laughs at my jokes.





From ewe2 at 4dot0.net  Wed Jul  6 23:38:40 2005
From: ewe2 at 4dot0.net (ewe2)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:38:40 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Re: Just for your amusement
In-Reply-To: <dagl5r+k9st@eGroups.com>
References: <20050706084107.GH5251@4dot0.net> <dagl5r+k9st@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050706233840.GI5251@4dot0.net>

On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 01:09:15PM -0000, annemehr wrote:
> I was amused!  Thanks.

Yay :)
 
> One additional list phenomenon, post-new-canon, that I didn't see you
> mention: there's the fact that so many people just *have* to write a
> post saying "How did Lucius know Sirius was the dog? Is there a spy in
> the Order?" and slap it up with their name on it despite the fact that
> several dozen other listies have already done so.  This of course,
> along with all the other low-wattage posts, leads to the situation
> where it is now *impossible* to read all the posts before writing one
> of your own, unless you have literally nothing else to do.

I wanted to make a humourous point about the mindless repetition but thought
it was covered by the first couple of points and that would make me repeat
myself :) But is this not the (hopeful) point of the Catalogue? To point out
that IT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE therefore giving the Admins the ability to cut out
the rot before it starts? Besides the fact that it seems out of fashion to do
_any_ research of your own but quote others, observe the utmost timidity with
which a new poster advances a thought and quantifies it to death, which leads
to--

> Then each of these posts spawns an entire thread in which no-one seems
> ever to stop to think that perhaps, as it *says in the book,* Wormtail
> will have informed LV and the DEs about Sirius' canine form.  But,
> hey.  They're *theorising,* the dears.

--because they're so glad someone said _something_ on their level, they're
going to joyfully respond reassuring the initial poster that it is indeed an
interesting question until whoops 20 posts later, oh we were all wrong. Still
we made some new _friends_.

> *rolls eyes*

*retracts claws*

Sean, a penguin with claws because sometimes a beak just isn't enough

-- 
sed awk grep cat dd ..Im a luser baby ,so why don't you killall -kill me.




From annemehr at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  7 01:27:26 2005
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 01:27:26 -0000
Subject: Just for your amusement
In-Reply-To: <20050706233840.GI5251@4dot0.net>
Message-ID: <dai0du+pslb@eGroups.com>


> *retracts claws*
> 
> Sean, a penguin with claws because sometimes a beak just isn't enough
> 


Like this?

http://www.brentwood.k12.ca.us/brentwood/graphics/penguins/pen_feet.JPG

They don't look retractable, though...

~Anne,
hoping this posts quicker than the last one which took half the day to
show up






From zanelupin at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  7 04:57:22 2005
From: zanelupin at yahoo.com (KathyK)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 04:57:22 -0000
Subject: Percy Weasley
Message-ID: <daicni+pnqu@eGroups.com>

I'm finished!  And only a *week* after I planned to be done with young 
Weatherby.

2.1.6 Percy Weasley Was 357, Now 232.  
2.1.6.6 PINE--was 15, now 10.

All other Percy Acronyms are empty as they were coined post-OoP.  

I chopped out a lot of repetition of the "Percy is Ambitious but..." 
posts, particularly those that only said "Percy's not such a bad guy," 
with no real reason why.  I cut out the Percy code from posts that 
were really about Ron or F&G or Crouch, that just used Percy to 
illustrate something about those other guys.  

There's still some repetition.  The majority of the posts discuss 
Percy's ambition and rule following, and whether or not he'd go with 
the Ministry or remain loyal to his family.  Couldn't really cut too 
much more, though, without losing some good discussion.  There are 
just a few *really* comprehensive Percy Posts.  

A lot of the posters proclaimed they were espousing an unpopular 
theory when they admitted they didn't think Percy was evil, but I'd 
say at least 85% of the messages took this position.  Very few people 
claimed Percy was evil.  

Speaking of PINE, I removed those that merely mentioned the acronym 
and left those that focused on defending the Percy is Not Evil 
position.   


KathyK, going to see what's left to sign up for






From ewe2 at 4dot0.net  Thu Jul  7 05:09:42 2005
From: ewe2 at 4dot0.net (ewe2)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:09:42 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Re: Just for your amusement
In-Reply-To: <dai0du+pslb@eGroups.com>
References: <20050706233840.GI5251@4dot0.net> <dai0du+pslb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050707050942.GM5251@4dot0.net>

On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 01:27:26AM -0000, annemehr wrote:
> Like this?
> 
> http://www.brentwood.k12.ca.us/brentwood/graphics/penguins/pen_feet.JPG
> 
> They don't look retractable, though...
> 
> ~Anne,
> hoping this posts quicker than the last one which took half the day to
> show up

It did post quicker, but I was playing with my new tape drive for a couple of
hours, sorry! (That's tape drive as in computer backup, not cassette).

-- 
sed awk grep cat dd ..Im a luser baby ,so why don't you killall -kill me.




From zanelupin at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  7 05:17:06 2005
From: zanelupin at yahoo.com (KathyK)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 05:17:06 -0000
Subject: Percy Weasley
In-Reply-To: <daicni+pnqu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <daidsi+jf1i@eGroups.com>

I'm an idiot!
 
> 2.1.6 Percy Weasley Was 357, Now 232.  

It's actually now at 231.  And I knew that, too.  And I *still* wrote 
the wrong number.  

KathyK, smacking herself on the forehead






From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Thu Jul  7 10:35:41 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:35:41 -0000
Subject: London bomb blasts
Message-ID: <daj0ht+igst@eGroups.com>

Hi
Signing in somewhat shaken from a work computer. Missed a London 
underground bomb blast by 15min. Now stranded (unhurt) in South London.

More later

Carolyn





From arrowsmithbt at btconnect.com  Thu Jul  7 10:47:34 2005
From: arrowsmithbt at btconnect.com (Barry Arrowsmith)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:47:34 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Re: Several topics
In-Reply-To: <dahpn0+u212@eGroups.com>
References: <dahpn0+u212@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <6F4E97A2-0457-49DB-AD4B-CE06BC963AA0@btconnect.com>

>
>
> Kathy W:
> Now, now, come have a cup of tea. Look at all the work you've put
> into HPfGU. If folk like Kneasy and you keep abandoning the list,
> what's to come of us?
>

Might be better to ask *why* folk stop posting.
Me you know about, others may be for different causes.
If you're happy with the likes of Alla then I wish you joy of her.
What you won't  be getting is any more Kneasy posts, that was  
decided  irrevocably at the turn of the year. That won't cause much  
anguish or soul-searching among the assembled multitude - one or two  
posters contributing/not contributing is neither here nor there when  
there's such a large membership. Nor in the normal course of events  
can a pain in the  arse like Alla or Loonylaw of themselves determine  
who can or can't express contrary or unpopular opinions, but for sure  
the whole ambience of HPfGU has changed markedly over the past 9  
months, and as the old saying has it - a fish rots from the head. The  
board is what the Elves make it, or at least what  they allow it to be.

> I think Alla will do fine. She isn't responsible for determining
> quality posts, but for upholding certain 'rules'. She's brought out
> some old Fantastic Posts on her own and re-generated new threads
> around them, and she seems to care about HPfGU.
>

Anybody can root out old FP posts, what you need are posters who can  
write the next generation of FPs. And I suspect that the vast  
majority of past  FPs take an unconventional/iconoclastic/lateral  
thinking approach to HP. The tenor of the current main board actively  
discourages contrary opinions. Comparing the board now to what it was  
like 2 years ago is a depressing exercise. Still, it's your board,  
you can do what you like with it.
And I'll post elsewhere.

Kneasy





From spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com  Thu Jul  7 11:37:43 2005
From: spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com (dungrollin)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:37:43 -0000
Subject: London bomb blasts
In-Reply-To: <daj0ht+igst@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <daj467+oj4q@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "carolynwhite2" 
<carolynwhite2 at a...> wrote:
> Hi
> Signing in somewhat shaken from a work computer. Missed a London 
> underground bomb blast by 15min. Now stranded (unhurt) in South 
London.
> 
> More later
> 
> Carolyn


Shit, thanks for posting that, or I wouldn't have known for ages.  
Good to know you're ok.  Hope getting home (when you can) isn't too 
horrible.

By the way, yes I am in Ivory Coast, just outside Abidjan.  Enjoying 
the bleak irony of calling home to make sure *they're* all ok, 
rather than fielding calls from here assuring them that *I'm* ok.  

De courage,
Dot






From willsonkmom at msn.com  Thu Jul  7 12:24:54 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (Kathy Willson)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:24:54 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] London bomb blasts
References: <daj0ht+igst@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV15B3BE6586CF67B8E0FFE5ADD80@phx.gbl>

Carolyn,
Glad to know you're OK. My first thought when I heard the news was to wonder who on the list was in the London area. 

Take care of yourself. You'll be in our thoughts today.
Kathy W
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  To: HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com<mailto:HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com> 
  Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 6:35 AM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] London bomb blasts


  Hi
  Signing in somewhat shaken from a work computer. Missed a London 
  underground bomb blast by 15min. Now stranded (unhurt) in South London.

  More later

  Carolyn




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From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  7 12:39:41 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (Ginger)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 05:39:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Re: Several topics
In-Reply-To: <dahpn0+u212@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050707123941.8782.qmail@web30203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


Kathy W:
I think Alla will do fine. She isn't responsible for determining 
quality posts, but for upholding certain 'rules'. She's brought out 
some old Fantastic Posts on her own and re-generated new threads 
around them, and she seems to care about HPfGU. 

I don't always agree with her, but she and I can argue without coming 
to blows and most important of all, she laughs at my jokes.

Ginger:

I have chatted offlist with Alla several times and I find her to be a very nice person.  The kind that's so nice that my teeth hurt, but even though I doubt that we agree on anything more substantial than "oxygen sure is a handy element", I actually like her. 

Her posts do get on my nerves at times, usually because of the subject, but I like hers better than the rest of her type.  At least she doesn't try to hurt people.  I think she'll be OK as an elf, after all, she is one of many.  Maybe they'll just have her welcoming new people or something.  I'd rather deal with her than Lupinlore or a few others any day.

I do agree that the board is certainly not what it was.  Where are the Elkinses, the Ebonys, the Kneasys?  Where has TBAY gone?  

As to the oft-repeated stuff:  just more incentive to get this little endeavour of ours up and running.  And I did notice that in the new HBF there is a bit about making your point and leaving it at that.  That should kill a few dozen posts right there.  Yes, I actually read the whole thing.  

Carolyn:  I'm so glad you're ok.  Take care.  I'll be thinking of you.

Ginger,  wishing she made mistakes more like KathyK- 232 instead of 231?  Would that every booboo of mine were that bad.


		
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From stevejjen at earthlink.net  Thu Jul  7 13:04:27 2005
From: stevejjen at earthlink.net (Jen Reese)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:04:27 -0000
Subject: London bomb blasts
In-Reply-To: <daj0ht+igst@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <daj98r+qimc@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "carolynwhite2" 
<carolynwhite2 at a...> wrote:
> Hi
> Signing in somewhat shaken from a work computer. Missed a London 
> underground bomb blast by 15min. Now stranded (unhurt) in South 
London.
> 
> More later
> 
> Carolyn

Oh god, it was so good to sign on and see your message this morning. 
Just hearing you were 15 minutes away from being blasted is bad 
enough :( . Guess Barry is OK too as he posted earlier this morning. 
Take care of yourself and post as soon as you can.

Jen, sorry for sending in a nothing post earlier as just reading 
Carolyn's near miss got me all discombobulated.





From willsonkmom at msn.com  Thu Jul  7 13:18:21 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:18:21 -0000
Subject: Several topics
In-Reply-To: <6F4E97A2-0457-49DB-AD4B-CE06BC963AA0@btconnect.com>
Message-ID: <daja2t+10qtj@eGroups.com>

Kneasy: 
> Might be better to ask *why* folk stop posting.

Kathy W:
I expressed myself rather poorly, I think. "Abandoned" wasn't want I 
intended to say. Believe it or not, you are missed on the main list, 
Kneasy and I would hate to see Carolyn leave too. But I do understand 
why you don't care to go back. The rest of us can just plug along, 
hoping to stay until the last book has been read and picked over.

See you at TOC,
Kathy





From annemehr at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  7 13:44:37 2005
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:44:37 -0000
Subject: London bomb blasts
In-Reply-To: <daj0ht+igst@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dajbk5+4afu@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "carolynwhite2"
<carolynwhite2 at a...> wrote:
> Hi
> Signing in somewhat shaken from a work computer. Missed a London 
> underground bomb blast by 15min. Now stranded (unhurt) in South London.
> 
> More later
> 
> Carolyn

Thanks for checking in; I'm so glad you're okay, and I hope everyone
you're close to is also.

~Anne






From ewe2 at 4dot0.net  Thu Jul  7 13:51:10 2005
From: ewe2 at 4dot0.net (ewe2)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:51:10 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] London bomb blasts
In-Reply-To: <daj0ht+igst@eGroups.com>
References: <daj0ht+igst@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050707135110.GN5251@4dot0.net>

On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 10:35:41AM -0000, Carolyn White wrote:
> Hi
> Signing in somewhat shaken from a work computer. Missed a London 
> underground bomb blast by 15min. Now stranded (unhurt) in South London.

I've just been hearing Londoners speaking on the BBC World Service, calling it
"bang out of order but we're going to stand firm or else the bad guys win".
Only in London!

Keep your chin up,

Sean



-- 
sed awk grep cat dd ..Im a luser baby ,so why don't you killall -kill me.




From elfundeb at comcast.net  Thu Jul  7 12:54:26 2005
From: elfundeb at comcast.net (Debbie)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:54:26 -0000
Subject: London bomb blasts
In-Reply-To: <daj0ht+igst@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <daj8m2+1812@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "carolynwhite2" 
<carolynwhite2 at a...> wrote:

> Signing in somewhat shaken from a work computer. Missed a London 
> underground bomb blast by 15min. Now stranded (unhurt) in South 
London.

I'm glad to hear you're physically unhurt, but shock is a form of 
injury, too.  Take care of yourself, and I hope you'll get home before 
long.

I don't know how many others on this list may be from London.  Could 
you please check in; you all were the first people I thought of when I 
read the news this morning.

Debbie





From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Thu Jul  7 18:37:57 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:37:57 -0000
Subject: Thanks
Message-ID: <dajsq5+q3rs@eGroups.com>

Hi y'all..

Just got back home after rambling trip around west London. The death 
toll mounts each time I hear the news - 37 at the moment, 700 hurt.

I arrived at my local tube station this morning, found the Piccadilly 
line was reporting delays, cussed and got on alternative service which 
delivered me to my office on time. Only heard about the bombs mid-
morning, and worked out that the tube train that was bombed was the one 
that I would have been on.

Very sobering...thank you all for your thoughts. Undoubtedly the reason 
they did it today was the gloating over the stupid Olympics. I think 
they would have done it to Paris instead if they'd won.

C





From annemehr at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  8 00:03:48 2005
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 00:03:48 -0000
Subject: Catalogue down?
Message-ID: <dakft4+5icb@eGroups.com>

I've tried several times to get in to code today, but it keeps timing
out.  Is it just me?

Losing this day will probably mean I don't get done with the Harry
code before HBP, but I still should be able to finish, erm, *very*
shortly after (after I've finished the book, that is).

~Anne





From annemehr at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  8 03:15:53 2005
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 03:15:53 -0000
Subject: Catalogue down?
In-Reply-To: <dakft4+5icb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dakr59+9he3@eGroups.com>

Never mind; I got back in.

~Anne

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "annemehr" <annemehr at y...> wrote:
> I've tried several times to get in to code today, but it keeps timing
> out.  Is it just me?
> 
> Losing this day will probably mean I don't get done with the Harry
> code before HBP, but I still should be able to finish, erm, *very*
> shortly after (after I've finished the book, that is).
> 
> ~Anne





From paul-groups at wibbles.org  Fri Jul  8 03:33:51 2005
From: paul-groups at wibbles.org (Paul Kippes)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:33:51 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Catalogue down?
In-Reply-To: <dakft4+5icb@eGroups.com>
References: <dakft4+5icb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c89e39d5050707203322315e5f@mail.gmail.com>

Texas had an awful storm this morning.  I had to reset everything when
I got home.

On 7/7/05, annemehr <annemehr at yahoo.com> wrote:
>  I've tried several times to get in to code today, but it keeps timing
>  out.  Is it just me?
>  
>  Losing this day will probably mean I don't get done with the Harry
>  code before HBP, but I still should be able to finish, erm, *very*
>  shortly after (after I've finished the book, that is).
>  
>  ~Anne
>  
>  
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From willsonkmom at msn.com  Sat Jul  9 15:56:39 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 15:56:39 -0000
Subject: WW clothing: interim report
Message-ID: <daos3n+101ff@eGroups.com>

Under the larger heading of personal possessions is the code for WW 
clothing (145 posts) At post 100 I've marked about 40 for removal. 
However, there are quite a few posts cross coded to Hogwarts uniforms, 
and more should be. So I paused and went to read the uniform section 
(20 posts)reviewed by Ginger.

The posts that are only about Hogwarts uniforms, and the posts that are 
only about WW clothing are pretty much still talking about the same 
thing. "What's under them?"--or "What was the WB costume department 
thinking?"--or some variation thereof.

I suggest we combine the two into one heading of clothing. If agreed, I 
would think that would best be done after I cull the clothing section. 
But it will change how I do that. So, thoughts?

After clothing I have one more section then Possessions will be done.

Kathy W.





From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  9 18:25:41 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (Ginger)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 11:25:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] WW clothing: interim report
In-Reply-To: <daos3n+101ff@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050709182541.44694.qmail@web30206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

potioncat <willsonkmom at msn.com> wrote:

Under the larger heading of personal possessions is the code for WW 
clothing (145 posts) At post 100 I've marked about 40 for removal. 
However, there are quite a few posts cross coded to Hogwarts uniforms, 
and more should be. So I paused and went to read the uniform section 
(20 posts)reviewed by Ginger.

The posts that are only about Hogwarts uniforms, and the posts that are 
only about WW clothing are pretty much still talking about the same 
thing. "What's under them?"--or "What was the WB costume department 
thinking?"--or some variation thereof.

I suggest we combine the two into one heading of clothing. If agreed, I 
would think that would best be done after I cull the clothing section. 
But it will change how I do that. So, thoughts?


Ginger:

The representative from Uniforms concurs with the honourable representative from Clothing. 
I have a feeling that some of those Kathy felt should be in uniforms were ones I uncoded due to repetition.

Not much to be said about uniforms, really.  
 
Ginger, helping her mommy bake cookies and eating more dough than she ought.

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From annemehr at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 10 01:49:46 2005
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 01:49:46 -0000
Subject: WW clothing: interim report
In-Reply-To: <daos3n+101ff@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dapurq+1pkl@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "potioncat" <willsonkmom at m...>
wrote:
> Under the larger heading of personal possessions [...]

When I first saw this, I read it as "personal obsessions."  Can't
imagine why...

~Anne






From elfundeb at comcast.net  Sun Jul 10 18:11:49 2005
From: elfundeb at comcast.net (Debbie)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 18:11:49 -0000
Subject: No More Equality and Fairness
Message-ID: <darod5+h654@eGroups.com>

That's right, for those of you who don't think I wield a sharp 
enough axe, I'm proposing to delete an entire category, 1.1.5 
Equality and Fairness (was 115, now 100 and shrinking rapidly)
and perhaps its subcategory 1.1.5.1 Inequality, Bullying and 
Discrimination (was 215, now 179 and shrinking even more rapidly).

First, every Equality and Fairness post, and every Inequality post 
is (or should be) also coded to other categories where they fit much 
better, such as 1.1.2.1, Following/Breaking Rules, or 3.2.6, Class 
System, Racism and Bigotry.  Coding something to Equality (or 
Inequality, if you can figure out which posts go where), doesn't 
really add anything.  Besides, no one is claiming that the WW is, or 
should be fair. ;-)

Second, bullying and discrimination should be split into different 
subcategories, as they really aren't related.  Bullying seems to fit 
better with 1.1.7 Parenting and Child Development than with 
discrimination and perhaps could be made a subset of that category.

Finally, I know there is a difference between 1.1.5.1 discrimination 
(as a theme of the books) and 3.2.6 racism and bigotry (in the WW).  
However, in practice it's very hard to decide what goes where; many 
posts touch on both.  So we might want to consider merging the two. 
I hesitate to recommend eliminating discrimination as a metatheme 
category.  If 1.1.5.1 and 3.2.6 were easy to distinguish, I wouldn't 
even suggest it, and it's just as easy for me to keep the category.  

So what does everyone think?

Debbie
noting that an astonishing 75 posts from a single thread ("Fred and 
George:  The Bullies You Do Know" and its progeny) survived the 
first cut, and also noting that that we rejected over 200 posts from 
the same thread, a solid 2/3 plus rejection rate





From willsonkmom at msn.com  Sun Jul 10 19:43:22 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 19:43:22 -0000
Subject: No More Equality and Fairness
In-Reply-To: <darod5+h654@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dartoq+p58s@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "Debbie" <elfundeb at c...> wrote:
> That's right, for those of you who don't think I wield a sharp 
> enough axe, I'm proposing to delete an entire category, 1.1.5 
> Equality and Fairness (was 115, now 100 and shrinking rapidly)
> and perhaps its subcategory 1.1.5.1 Inequality, Bullying and 
> Discrimination (was 215, now 179 and shrinking even more rapidly).

Kathy W:
Oh, good! For a heart stopping moment I thought no more equality and 
fairnes was a new policy!

I agree to eliminating unnecessary categories and to merging similar 
ones. 





From dicentra at xmission.com  Sun Jul 10 22:37:19 2005
From: dicentra at xmission.com (Dicentra spectabilis)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 22:37:19 -0000
Subject: hold on....
In-Reply-To: <da5mj5+skoo@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <das7uv+neuc@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "carolynwhite2"
<carolynwhite2 at a...> wrote:

> > Dicentra spectabilis <dicentra at x> wrote:
> > Am I looking in the wrong place, or is there no code for the Pr*nk?
> > 
> > Are those all locked up in Sirius/Snape posts?
> > 
> > I swear, I will hand-code Pr*nk posts myself if only to have a
> > separate category. This cannot stand!

> Carolyn:
> Yes, there are two Shrieking Shack categories under 'Back History' - 
> one for the POA scene, one for the Prank (labelled *not POA* for 
> extra clarity).

In the final edit, I'd recommend changing this to "The Prank" because
"not POA" isn't exactly clear. Or is that what you meant?





From willsonkmom at msn.com  Sun Jul 10 23:36:25 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 23:36:25 -0000
Subject: hold on....
In-Reply-To: <das7uv+neuc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dasbdp+o5fe@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "Dicentra spectabilis" 
<dicentra at x> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "carolynwhite2"
> <carolynwhite2 at a...> wrote:
> 
> > > Dicentra spectabilis  
> In the final edit, I'd recommend changing this to "The Prank" 
because
> "not POA" isn't exactly clear. Or is that what you meant?

Kathy W: 
(I'm starting to feel like Peter Pettigrew, running around agreeing 
with everyone else.)

I agree. When we get into coding for OoP, we'll hit new discussions 
of "The Prank" from the Pensieve view. I think we'll want them here 
too. We may need to sort them out later...or maybe not...I don't know 
how much original material there really is. 

We're watching TMTMNBN #1 in celebration of my youngest's 11th 
birthday. (It just happens to be on TV today.) I've been told by the 
family to stop all comments that compare the movie with the book. 
Kinda sad...first time in years we haven't had a Harry Potter theme 
birthday party. (It was sports this year.)(He is, however, awaiting 
his Hogwarts letter...)






From stevejjen at earthlink.net  Mon Jul 11 00:12:11 2005
From: stevejjen at earthlink.net (Jen Reese)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 00:12:11 -0000
Subject: Gone Fishin'
Message-ID: <dasdgr+fi2v@eGroups.com>

Miss Havisham, 

I regret to inform you that my ability to concentrate on cataloguing 
has reached its nadir. After months of intense focus, a slash and 
burn economic policy, and an overall mission to contribute to the 
greater good.....well, HBP IS ONLY 5 DAYS AWAY.

Ahem, so as you can *see*, I've put my sign on the door and I'm 
taking a teeny-tiny vacation. Wednesday morning we head out West, 
where I'm praying the Barnes and Noble I called months ago will 
really and truly have a book reserved for me. And I'll even brave 
the rugrats, Bertie-Bott bean-counting contests, and the general 
costume-wearing fiesta to get my sweaty little palms on HBP by 
midnight Friday.

///Do we have a spoiler policy here btw, or can we start discussing 
right away? Not that I'll be near a computer from Saturday morning 
until Monday night. I'll survive. Maybe. :( ///

Anyway, what are everyone's plans for HBP???? 

Jen, hoping Carolyn is doing OK as we haven't heard from her since 
the bombing.





From ewe2 at 4dot0.net  Mon Jul 11 00:57:37 2005
From: ewe2 at 4dot0.net (ewe2)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:57:37 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Gone Fishin'
In-Reply-To: <dasdgr+fi2v@eGroups.com>
References: <dasdgr+fi2v@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050711005737.GR5251@4dot0.net>

On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 12:12:11AM -0000, Jen Reese wrote:

> ///Do we have a spoiler policy here btw, or can we start discussing 
> right away? Not that I'll be near a computer from Saturday morning 
> until Monday night. I'll survive. Maybe. :( ///

The discussion we had to have...I earnestly enjoin all to avoid spoilers for a
week or whatever is closest to the List period. I am sorely tempted to gabble
at once, so this is an attempt to zip my own mouth as much as anything...

> Anyway, what are everyone's plans for HBP???? 

I'll be swinging by the shop at about 6-6.30am Saturday morning, planning to
be at least in the first 5 in line by 9.01am like last time. Then I am going
home AT ONCE to commence reading.

> Jen, hoping Carolyn is doing OK as we haven't heard from her since 
> the bombing.

Poor thing is probably having to walk everywhere...

-- 
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From willsonkmom at msn.com  Mon Jul 11 01:41:36 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 01:41:36 -0000
Subject: spoilers was Re: Gone Fishin'
In-Reply-To: <20050711005737.GR5251@4dot0.net>
Message-ID: <dasiog+8lss@eGroups.com>


Jen asked: 
> > ///Do we have a spoiler policy here btw, or can we start 
discussing 
> > right away? Not that I'll be near a computer from Saturday 
morning 
> > until Monday night. I'll survive. Maybe. :( ///

Kathy W:
Well back in post 2401 (I think) Carolyn asked for input...I don't 
think any of us replied. She pointed out that Kelly wouldn't be able 
to get HBP until August sometime and she wasn't sure about Dot. 

So unless we're going to agree not to come to this board at all until 
we've read the book, I think we need spoiler warnings. It could get 
tricky, I mean an accidental "How do we code ESE!Lupin now that we 
know the truth?"... could drive someone mad. 

So I vote for Spoiler space until we hear differently from Kelly and 
Dot.


Ewe2:
> 
> > Anyway, what are everyone's plans for HBP???? 
> 
Kathy W:
I'm stocking up on easy to prepare meals, pre-cooking casseroles, 
filling the shelves with junk food, posting instructions above the 
washer-and-dryer, and warning my family they are on their own! They 
still talk about the the last time a HP book came out and Mom forgot 
to make meals and do laundry. (I really do need to get a paying job. 
I'm such a Molly!) 

They set themselves up this year: everyone voted for amusement parks 
(which I hate) for vacation and when my loving husband asked what I 
wanted to do, I said, "Just give me peace and quiet to read the new 
HP book."

 
As for Carolyn...(Is anyone else unaccounted for?) ...I'm hoping that 
it's a case of HPfGU taking a lower spot on her priorities right now. 
I hope you are safe and well.





From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 11 02:32:57 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (Ginger)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 19:32:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] spoilers was Re: Gone Fishin'
In-Reply-To: <dasiog+8lss@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050711023257.63584.qmail@web30210.mail.mud.yahoo.com>




Jen asked: 
> > ///Do we have a spoiler policy here btw, or can we start 
discussing 
> > right away? Not that I'll be near a computer from Saturday 
morning 
> > until Monday night. I'll survive. Maybe. :( ///

Kathy W:
Well back in post 2401 (I think) Carolyn asked for input...I don't 
think any of us replied. She pointed out that Kelly wouldn't be able 
to get HBP until August sometime and she wasn't sure about Dot. 

So unless we're going to agree not to come to this board at all until 
we've read the book, I think we need spoiler warnings. It could get 
tricky, I mean an accidental "How do we code ESE!Lupin now that we 
know the truth?"... could drive someone mad. 

So I vote for Spoiler space until we hear differently from Kelly and 
Dot.

Ginger chimes in:  Me too.  Or even restrict ourselves to catalogue conversation, just to be safe, and add spoiler space until we have the all clear on anything that effects the project.


Ewe2:
> 
> > Anyway, what are everyone's plans for HBP???? 

Ginger:  My family was supposed to get together to celebrate the 4th of July and my sister's b-day (the 5th) but Sis was sick and couldn't make it, so we put it off for this weekend.  I got there and Sis had called (after I left Fargo) to say that she couldn't make it as she was meeting with a Congressman about funding for her grant project.  

They suggested we meet next weekend, and I informed them that I was busy.  My dad is Vernon Dursleyish about any form of fiction that involves imagination, himself preferring a good western to "things that can't possibly happen", but we all agreed to meet the weekend of the 23rd instead as I informed them that I had my copy reserved for 12:01 am.

So next weekend, I will spend Friday mowing and doing house hold chores, attend the festivities, listen to the grownups whine about being up that late to get a stupid book for their kids, get my book and go home to a clean house and start reading.  

Hoping everyone is well, Ginger


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From talisman22457 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 11 02:43:39 2005
From: talisman22457 at yahoo.com (Talisman)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 02:43:39 -0000
Subject: Gone Fishin'
In-Reply-To: <dasdgr+fi2v@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dasmcr+7jmg@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "Jen Reese" <stevejjen at e...> 
wrote> 
> Anyway, what are everyone's plans for HBP???? 
>
I plan to be already standing in front of the book store, well before 
6:00 AM, when the adolescents (who will be eyeing me sulkily) get 
dropped off by their parents in their vain attempt to get the first 
ticket to receive the book at midnight.  Like I did last year. 

Tough luck suckers--it's MINE.  Too bad you all aren't old enough to 
drive (shrill, insane laughter).

  
> Jen, hoping Carolyn is doing OK as we haven't heard from her since 
> the bombing.

Yes, the quiet is disquieting.

Talisman





From annemehr at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 11 05:46:57 2005
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 05:46:57 -0000
Subject: Gone Fishin'
In-Reply-To: <dasmcr+7jmg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dat14h+9ub6@eGroups.com>

   
> > Jen, hoping Carolyn is doing OK as we haven't heard from her since 
> > the bombing.
> 
> Yes, the quiet is disquieting.
> 
> Talisman

Well, she did check in after the bombing, but she's been quiet a lot
recently -- and mentioning some very bad days along the way.

Carolyn -- if RL's being a royal pain... *puts huge box of chocolates
on Miss's desk*

Anne  

P.S. Are we all in TOC? If we are, we can keep all the HBP chat in
there and keep this list strictly spoiler-free.





From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 11 06:48:00 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (Ginger)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 23:48:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Re: Gone Fishin'
In-Reply-To: <dat14h+9ub6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050711064800.56301.qmail@web30202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


Anne said:
Well, she did check in after the bombing, but she's been quiet a lot
recently -- and mentioning some very bad days along the way.

Carolyn -- if RL's being a royal pain... *puts huge box of chocolates
on Miss's desk* 

P.S. Are we all in TOC? If we are, we can keep all the HBP chat in
there and keep this list strictly spoiler-free.

Ginger: I agree that TOC for HBP chat would be a good idea.

Now, everyone, grab a glass of something.

A toast to our Miss:

Though we've never met, to us all you are dear.

And though we are far, in our hearts you are near.

Though we cannot know just what all you've been through,

The sun never sets on folks thinking of you.

Ginger, who never realized just how small the world was. 


		
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From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 11 08:57:13 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (quigonginger)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 08:57:13 -0000
Subject: Finished Other Wizards and starting Durm/Beau
Message-ID: <datc99+m37e@eGroups.com>

Hi.

I finished Other Wizarding Characters and the results are:
Was: 655
Now: 399

I'm not going to give all the stats unless someone asks, but the 
highlights were:

Florence's Acronyms:
Only FLABBERGASTED has posts in it.  There are 2 of them.  1 is the 
acronym itself.  

Flamel took a hit from 82 to 36.  I got rid of posts that only talk 
about what the stone is/was or about alchemy in general.  These are 
coded elsewhere (or have been deleted by those reviewing- I didn't 
add anything).  

Olivander went from 47 to 30.  I removed the wand discussion, as it 
was coded to wands, where it belongs.

Rita had a lot of repitition, so she went from 166 to 80.  She's 
still a meaty category both for speculation and for comments about 
the press.  
Side note:  I found a funny speculation by Magda which suggested that 
the task DD sent Snape on at the end of GoF was to woo Rita and see 
what she knew.  That's why DD had to ask Snape twice if he was ready 
to do such a thing.

Narcissa went from 46 to 25.  Having just finished Draco, I was 
pretty well aware of what was already in the Malfoy Family Dynamics 
section, so knocked out a few more posts than I would have 
otherwise.  Several did make their way to that area.

Teachers' partners went from 40 to 21.  I eliminated ones specificly 
shipping certain teachers as these were already in shipping and/or 
coded to the teachers themselves.  Again I took some liberties 
uncoding shipping as I have reviewed it myself.

Poor old Flo went from 50 to 37 due to repetition.

Everyone else either went down slightly or was unchanged.  

One thing that struck me as odd:  There were a ton of posts about how 
Stan probably didn't go to Hogwarts (or have any education) as he has 
a menial job, but only 2 posts about Ernie Prang saying that.  I 
wonder why people don't ask the same about Ernie?  Did he really seem 
that much more intelligent?

I should add that when I went to put my name by these people in the 
definitions database, they were already listed as Laurasia.  The same 
was true for the minor teachers.  May I assume she did an earlier 
review?  She wasn't listed in the allocations database.  I left it as 
was.

That's it for the other wizards.

I signed up for Beaubatons and Durmstrang next (2.09).

Ginger, who should really be starting a countdown.





From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Mon Jul 11 10:53:54 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:53:54 -0000
Subject: AWOL/sorry
In-Reply-To: <20050711064800.56301.qmail@web30202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <datj42+113cv@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, Ginger <quigonginger at y...> 
wrote:
> 
> Anne said:
> Well, she did check in after the bombing, but she's been quiet a lot
> recently -- and mentioning some very bad days along the way.
> 
> Carolyn -- if RL's being a royal pain... *puts huge box of 
chocolates
> on Miss's desk* 

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh

You will not believe this but on Saturday my computer crashed and 
today, Monday morning, is the first moment I have been able to get 
back online. Fortunately, all it amounted to was the demise of my 
monitor, but I had some heart-stopping moments until the engineer 
told me that, because as usual I wasn't totally up to date on backups.

One of the benefits of living in this big dangerous city is having a 
choice of 24/7 computer engineers who will turn out first thing even 
on a Sunday morning. Unfortunately, by the time he'd finished 
testing, PC World had just closed. I was there at opening time this 
morning.

A long ramble to say, give me a moment to catch up with all your 
messages ...

..at least it gave me time to nearly complete my re-read of the 
series before Saturday.


> 
> P.S. Are we all in TOC? If we are, we can keep all the HBP chat in
> there and keep this list strictly spoiler-free.
> 
> Ginger: I agree that TOC for HBP chat would be a good idea.


Yes, until each of us has confirmed that we've read HBP, please be 
very very careful (I know Kelly can't get the book until she is back 
on dry land at the end of July for instance).


> 
> Now, everyone, grab a glass of something.
> 
> A toast to our Miss:
> 
> Though we've never met, to us all you are dear.
> 
> And though we are far, in our hearts you are near.
> 
> Though we cannot know just what all you've been through,
> 
> The sun never sets on folks thinking of you.
> 
> Ginger, who never realized just how small the world was. 


aaaw, Ginger, a poem all of my own.... 

We had end-of-WW2 commemorations all day Sunday here (mid-way date 
between end of war in Europe and end of war in Japan), and it was all 
a bit eerie, considering the news on all the front pages. 

But I think most Brits would confirm that the stiff upper lip stuff 
is easy stereotyping that doesn't mean much. All people are doing are 
just carrying on with their lives, and really, what else are you 
supposed to do? Lie on the floor and scream? 

The stupid politicians like quoting Churchill and defiance and all 
that, but it doesn't mean much on an everyday basis. Yes, you keep an 
eye out for unattended bags, yes you don't do unnecessary trips to 
obvious target places, but you still have to get to work, buy food, 
pay bills...

Carolyn






From ewe2 at 4dot0.net  Mon Jul 11 11:20:12 2005
From: ewe2 at 4dot0.net (ewe2)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 21:20:12 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Re: AWOL/sorry
In-Reply-To: <datj42+113cv@eGroups.com>
References: <20050711064800.56301.qmail@web30202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <datj42+113cv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050711112012.GS5251@4dot0.net>

On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 10:53:54AM -0000, Carolyn White wrote:

> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh
> 
> You will not believe this but on Saturday my computer crashed and 
> today, Monday morning, is the first moment I have been able to get 
> back online. Fortunately, all it amounted to was the demise of my 
> monitor, but I had some heart-stopping moments until the engineer 
> told me that, because as usual I wasn't totally up to date on backups.

This is why I bought a tape drive for my server to back all my systems up to
tape. Very glad a burnt-out monitor was all it was. I lost most of my
filesystems last year and it took three months to work out what I lost...

> But I think most Brits would confirm that the stiff upper lip stuff 
> is easy stereotyping that doesn't mean much. All people are doing are 
> just carrying on with their lives, and really, what else are you 
> supposed to do? Lie on the floor and scream? 

>From what I've read of WW2, this was exactly the attitude of ordinary people
then too. You can't help carrying on, really. There's a lot of stupid
pontification going on in my country about all of this at the moment, they're
a lot of yes men.

> The stupid politicians like quoting Churchill and defiance and all 
> that, but it doesn't mean much on an everyday basis. Yes, you keep an 
> eye out for unattended bags, yes you don't do unnecessary trips to 
> obvious target places, but you still have to get to work, buy food, 
> pay bills...

Let's hope that our dear politicians don't decide its a worthwhile trade-off
for running the rest of the world the way they have been.

Sean, Mr. Doom and Gloom penguin

-- 
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From willsonkmom at msn.com  Mon Jul 11 11:22:47 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (Kathy Willson)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 07:22:47 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Re: AWOL/sorry
References: <datj42+113cv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV9402FFB62D0B7F58752B8ADDC0@phx.gbl>


  Carolyn wrote:
  But I think most Brits would confirm that the stiff upper lip stuff 
  is easy stereotyping that doesn't mean much. All people are doing are 
  just carrying on with their lives, and really, what else are you 
  supposed to do? Lie on the floor and scream?

  Kathy W:
  Oh, it means a great deal. Gives the rest of us courage. 

  A year after the Pentagon was attacked, there was a pair of snipers riding around the Metropolitan DC area randomly killing people. All the news stations took great pleasure in reporting about the fear people were feeling. That drove me crazy because we were carrying on, going about our daily lives...keeping a wary eye out, but going on. Talking about fear did nothing at all but give the snipers something to gloat about.
  And while you're celebrating the end of WWII, I'm reading about the small boats of Dunkirk. Very timely.

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From talisman22457 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 11 13:05:35 2005
From: talisman22457 at yahoo.com (Talisman)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:05:35 -0000
Subject: Countdown Fun (was Finished Other Wizards and starting Durm/Beau
In-Reply-To: <datc99+m37e@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <datqqv+thuv@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "quigonginger" 
<quigonginger at y...> wrote:
> > Ginger, who should really be starting a countdown.

Bloomsbury has a fun countdown clock at their site, to print off.  
After cutting the pieces out, I glued mine to foam board, threw clear 
glitter all over the blue base, assembled the thing, and built a 
gothic looking clock tower (~3ft tall) to attach it to.

It's a nice diversion from running around in circles emitting small 
squeaks or calling Borders, again, to see if they are giving out queue 
tickets yet.

T





From ewe2 at 4dot0.net  Mon Jul 11 13:47:36 2005
From: ewe2 at 4dot0.net (ewe2)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 23:47:36 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Re: Countdown Fun (was Finished Other Wizards and starting Durm/Beau
In-Reply-To: <datqqv+thuv@eGroups.com>
References: <datc99+m37e@eGroups.com> <datqqv+thuv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050711134736.GT5251@4dot0.net>

On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 01:05:35PM -0000, Talisman wrote:

> It's a nice diversion from running around in circles emitting small 
> squeaks or calling Borders, again, to see if they are giving out queue 
> tickets yet.

Now there's a Flash animation I'd like to see....

<ducks>

-- 
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From stevejjen at earthlink.net  Mon Jul 11 13:56:00 2005
From: stevejjen at earthlink.net (Jen Reese)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:56:00 -0000
Subject: Countdown Fun (was Finished Other Wizards and starting Durm/Beau
In-Reply-To: <datqqv+thuv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dattpg+30nv@eGroups.com>

> Bloomsbury has a fun countdown clock at their site, to print off.  
> After cutting the pieces out, I glued mine to foam board, threw 
clear 
> glitter all over the blue base, assembled the thing, and built a 
> gothic looking clock tower (~3ft tall) to attach it to.
> 
> It's a nice diversion from running around in circles emitting 
small 
> squeaks or calling Borders, again, to see if they are giving out 
queue 
> tickets yet.
> 
> T

Why....you're just an old softy at heart, aren't you? The arts and 
crafts activity just dispelled my image of you clanking around 
Malfoy Manor in your pirate outfit. What's the world coming to, 
anyway?

I've been pestering the Barnes in Noble in Midland, Texas myself. 
Found out armbands will be available at 9am sharp on Friday morning. 
Now, do I dig up an HP costume for the release? A robe might come in 
handy for a good elbow or a hip check while getting in line, hehehe.

Jen, who promises to be on good behavior and not ruin it for the 
little people, although she fully expects *they* will be elbowing 
her out of the way instead of vice-versa.





From willsonkmom at msn.com  Mon Jul 11 14:26:45 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 14:26:45 -0000
Subject: WW clothing: interim report
In-Reply-To: <20050709182541.44694.qmail@web30206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <datvj5+j5el@eGroups.com>

 
> Ginger:
> 
> The representative from Uniforms concurs with the honourable 
representative from Clothing. 
> I have a feeling that some of those Kathy felt should be in 
uniforms were ones I uncoded due to repetition.


Kathy W.
Well, there were a few that had both codes that I deleted WW clothing 
from before I thought we should combine them anyway. Final numbers:

WW clothing was 147, now 70. Ginger had left uniforms at 20...I think 
it will be about 80 if we combine the two. 

I un-coded those posts that were repetitive, and those that had to do 
with Lupin's poverty or Molly's taste in clothes. That keeps the 
category as a place for general WW clothing. 

Unless the group feels differently, I think this should be for 
general WW rather than personal clothes. However, about three 
quarters into the uncoding process I realized the major category 
is "Personal" possessions. But, those posts that discussed a 
character's clothes were really discussing the character.

Thoughts?

If in agreement, my definition would be: Posts that discuss clothing 
generally worn in the WW. 

I know there are hundreds more posts coming up about this and I 
really doubt that anyone will have anything new to say. 





From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Mon Jul 11 17:10:22 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:10:22 -0000
Subject: The big run-up/clothes/Equality&Fairness/Prank/OtherWCharacters
Message-ID: <dau95u+dneu@eGroups.com>

 Losing this day will probably mean I don't get done with the Harry
> code before HBP, but I still should be able to finish, erm, *very*
> shortly after (after I've finished the book, that is).
>
> ~Anne

C- you and me both Anne. I had planned to do a lot of Voldie-sorting 
this weekend, but the computer crash has put that out the window. I 
want to finish OOP by early Saturday morning, despite pointless 
interruptions like work [honestly, the priorities of some firms..].

********
KathyW:
The posts that are only about Hogwarts uniforms, and the posts that 
are only about WW clothing are pretty much still talking about the 
same thing. "What's under them?"--or "What was the WB costume 
department thinking?"--or some variation thereof.

I suggest we combine the two into one heading of clothing. If agreed, 
I would think that would best be done after I cull the clothing 
section. But it will change how I do that. So, thoughts?

C - I would be happy to move Hogwart's uniforms to be a subset of WW 
clothing if you like, or even to combine those two if that is the 
consensus.

*********
Debbie:
First, every Equality and Fairness post, and every Inequality post 
is (or should be) also coded to other categories where they fit much 
better, such as 1.1.2.1, Following/Breaking Rules, or 3.2.6, Class 
System, Racism and Bigotry. 

Second, bullying and discrimination should be split into different 
subcategories, as they really aren't related. Bullying seems to fit 
better with 1.1.7 Parenting and Child Development than with 
discrimination and perhaps could be made a subset of that category.

Finally, I know there is a difference between 1.1.5.1 discrimination 
(as a theme of the books) and 3.2.6 racism and bigotry (in the WW). 
However, in practice it's very hard to decide what goes where; many 
posts touch on both. So we might want to consider merging the two. 

I hesitate to recommend eliminating discrimination as a metatheme 
category. If 1.1.5.1 and 3.2.6 were easy to distinguish, I wouldn't 
even suggest it, and it's just as easy for me to keep the category. 
C - Cor, if some of the listies-who-must-not-be-named could see this 
Elf in action! Oooh, wouldn't there be complaints..tee hee.

So, what this boils down to is splitting 1.1.5 between either 1.1.7.1 
(Child abuse/mistreatment) - that's for the bullying stuff, or 3.2.6 
(Racism & bigotry) - for the discrimination stuff?

I have actually said several times that 3.2.6 poses some problems in 
overlap, so I am glad to see this happen. However... should we now 
move 3.2.6 up into metathemes, because it is such a major theme?

DOUG - Oy! I know you are working on sections 3.1. - 3.2.6, have you 
got this far yet, what do you think?

Debbie - when you have moved these posts out, tell me and I will 
delete the section.

********
Dicey:
In the final edit, I'd recommend changing this to "The Prank" 
because "not POA" isn't exactly clear. Or is that what you meant?

C - Good idea, I'll change it now.

*************

Jen:
Ahem, so as you can *see*, I've put my sign on the door and I'm 
taking a teeny-tiny vacation.

C - I think we are all losing concentration quite fast... those that 
**were ** concentrating in the first place

::glares around:::

Sean:
> Anyway, what are everyone's plans for HBP???? 

I'll be swinging by the shop at about 6-6.30am Saturday morning, 
planning to be at least in the first 5 in line by 9.01am like last 
time. Then I am going home AT ONCE to commence reading.

Talisman:
Tough luck suckers--it's MINE. Too bad you all aren't old enough to 
drive (shrill, insane laughter).

C - Nothing like ruthless adults is there? Hah! I just went and 
checked at my local bookstore. I'll be elbowing kids in the face by 
8.59am. Have already partly stocked up on supplies...last minute 
perishables will be bought on Friday night.

****

Ginger (about Other Wizarding Characters) :
I should add that when I went to put my name by these people in the 
definitions database, they were already listed as Laurasia. The same 
was true for the minor teachers. May I assume she did an earlier 
review? She wasn't listed in the allocations database. I left it as 
was.

C - I don't know what has happened to Laurasia. She hasn't responded 
to emails for a very long time, and certainly isn't reviewing at 
present. I shouldn't worry about changing her name to yours in both 
databases.

**********
 








From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Mon Jul 11 17:15:13 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:15:13 -0000
Subject: From Kelly re sections 3.16.4.1 & 3.8.6.10
Message-ID: <dau9f1+rjs@eGroups.com>

I finished with 3.16.4.1.  My review is below, and I'm attaching the 
spreadsheet with my results.  I rejected 50% of the posts there due 
to some repetition and a lot of passing mention (of sorting, the hat, 
houses, Hogwarts, almost anything really) and moved 18% of the posts 
to new homes within my review categories.

Thanks again, and very glad to hear you're okay after the bombings.  
The list is my only current London connection, so I thought of you 
guys immediately.  Thoughts and prayers to all of you.

-Kelly

********************************************************************

3.16.4.1 Sorting Process
------------------------
Previous: 346
Now: 109 (63 moved, 174 rejected)

This category should be used only to discuss the actual sorting 
process itself.  What factors influence the sorting (personality, 
choice, family, potential)?  Does it help or hurt the students to be 
labeled so early?  Why were certain controversial house placements 
made (predominately Hermione, Neville, and Percy)?

Since 3.16.4 School Houses was only recently created, it seems that 
many cataloguers were using 3.16.4.1 to hold posts that discussed, 
compared, contrasted, etc. the four houses or discussed the house 
system in general. Now that we have the new category, I don't think 
this will be a problem anymore.  The vast majority of the 63 posts I 
moved now reside in 3.16.4.

Above, I mentioned that controversial sortings can be included in 
this category.  However, only use it if the post is discussing the 
sorting process itself.  If the post just discusses why a character 
is/isn't/might have been in one or more houses, use either 3.16.4 
School Houses (if multiple houses are discussed) or 3.16.4.[6/7/8/9] 
Slytherin/Gryffindor/Hufflepuff/Ravenclaw (if only one or two houses 
are mentioned).  Consider the following posts (ignoring the fact the 
both of these examples would be rejected as Adds Nothing New):

1) "I think Hermione should have been in Ravenclaw.  She's obviously 
the smartest student in her year, and the Sorting Hat stated that 
Ravenclaw is the house for intelligent students.  She has 
demonstrated bravery in the books, but her intelligence still seems 
to be her predominant personality trait."

2) "I think Hermione was placed in Gryffindor rather than Ravenclaw 
because, despite her obvious intelligence, she feels bravery is a 
more important characteristic and values this over book smarts.  
Sorting weights this preference over the more easily noticed 
characteristic."

Post 1 would not be included in 3.16.4.1 because it is only 
discussing the characteristics of Hermione, Ravenclaw, and  
Gryffindor.  However, post 2 does belong in 3.16.4.1 because it is 
discussing the nature of the sorting process as it applies to 
Hermione and the houses.

I'll be reviewing the Sorting Hat category next.  I expect a large 
number of posts from that category to move to this one.

-Kelly 
*****************

One more finished, with a 77.9% reduction in size.  I'm getting 
better at category decimation, don't you think?

3.8.6.10 Sorting Hat
--------------------
Originally: 145
Now: 32 (19 moved, 91 rejected, 3 questionable)

This category should be used when discussing all aspects of the Hat 
EXCEPT how it makes its sorting decisions (those belong in 3.16.4.1 
Sorting process).  Note that this doesn't mean the two categories are 
mutually exclusive; a post that discusses theories of where the 
Sorting Hat derives its wisdom and how this influences its decisions 
would require both categories.  However, sorting process posts almost 
always mention the Hat in passing without really discussing the Hat, 
only its decisions; try to keep these out of 3.8.6.10.  Most of the 
posts I rejected were of this nature, and were double-coded to both 
3.16.4.1 and 3.8.6.10.

Also, I came across three posts that discussed the school song, but 
were coded only here.  I would like to remove the 3.8.6.10 code, 
since the posts didn't discuss the Hat at all, but that would leave 
the posts as complete rejects.  Does anyone have any suggestions as 
to where they might belong? Have you seen any other posts discussing 
the song?

-Kelly 







From willsonkmom at msn.com  Mon Jul 11 17:36:30 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (Kathy Willson)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:36:30 -0400
Subject: uniforms and available categories was Re: [HPFGU-Catalogue] The big run-up/clothes/Equality&Fairness/Prank/OtherWCharacters
References: <dau95u+dneu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV14A179C15B5B82073833F0ADDC0@phx.gbl>



C - I would be happy to move Hogwart's uniforms to be a subset of WW 
clothing if you like, or even to combine those two if that is the 
consensus.

Kathy W:
With the number of posts that overlap, I think one heading would be fine. It could be WW clothing & Uniforms. I'm not sure if we'll get any posts about the Healer robes/uniforms from OoP.

I just have watches and clocks to review and Personal Possessions will be done. Then I'll sign up for something else.

Are there any other "spoken for" categories that may not really be claimed? 

  
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From kking0731 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 12 01:16:02 2005
From: kking0731 at gmail.com (snow15145)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 01:16:02 -0000
Subject: James and Lily pre-review
Message-ID: <dav5ki+8bs5@eGroups.com>



I'm almost finished with James and Lily and would like to run a few 
questions past all of you. 

There are quite a few posts (naturally) about Snape loves Lily. Some 
are coded to LOLLIPOPS, some to Snape and love and some to both along 
with the two characters main heading; is it necessary to keep the 
Lily category checked as well for those who may not know the acronym? 

My suggestion would be to make a new subcategory (Lily and love) for 
Lily and her many proposed lovers so anyone unaware of an acronym and 
its meaning would be able to find all the EWWs and LOLLIPOPS they 
ever wanted in one place and it would also reduce the swelling of the 
main Lily category. 


The second question is almost the same, should we keep the Lily 
category checked when the topic is Godric's Hollow/Death of Lily and 
James? 


The third question is more of a comment that we should place Lily's 
sacrifice under the Lily heading so it would be easier to find (for 
the user) and because it is a direct connection to Lily it makes more 
sense to have it there. 


The last concern is about two of the acronyms under Lily: 
MAKE ME BARF= "Monstrous Activity: Keeping Evil Men Entertained By 
Allocating Rescued Females"
and
 FOUL SLAVERY= (Females Offer Unlimited Levity: Save Lily And 
Voldemort Eagerly Rewards You!) 

These acronyms have only produced two posts collectively and most 
likely will not see any further activity because the TEWW EWW and 
variants category will sufficiently cover these types of posts along 
with Peter-Gets-The-Girl. 

Suggestions, comments?

KathySnow - who knows how the Potters got all their money, Lily 
charged for her affection! 






From paul-groups at wibbles.org  Tue Jul 12 05:54:03 2005
From: paul-groups at wibbles.org (kippesp)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 05:54:03 -0000
Subject: Cataloging holiday?
Message-ID: <davltr+h50f@eGroups.com>

What kind of need will there be for catloging posts after Friday?  I
wouldn't mind going silent for several days while I move things around
the city--while at the same time put the server into a real case. 
Wednesday I get to become a real grown up and purchase a house.  I may
power up the server at my parent's place until I sort out Internet
services.

Oh, and in case you're wondering, I uploaded a picture of the computer
our Catalog is running on.   Just don't drop any paperclips on it!





From ewe2 at 4dot0.net  Tue Jul 12 10:26:33 2005
From: ewe2 at 4dot0.net (ewe2)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:26:33 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Cataloging holiday?
In-Reply-To: <davltr+h50f@eGroups.com>
References: <davltr+h50f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050712102633.GA19986@4dot0.net>

On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 05:54:03AM -0000, kippesp wrote:

> What kind of need will there be for catloging posts after Friday?  I
> wouldn't mind going silent for several days while I move things around
> the city--while at the same time put the server into a real case. 
> Wednesday I get to become a real grown up and purchase a house.  I may
> power up the server at my parent's place until I sort out Internet
> services.

I believe you can rest assured that noone will be coding anything on Friday,
Saturday or a good deal of the following week :) Congrats on getting a house,
wish I could :(


> Oh, and in case you're wondering, I uploaded a picture of the computer
> our Catalog is running on.   Just don't drop any paperclips on it!

Oh. My. God. That is shocking :) BTW, is that a cheap Jetway board I see on
the lower left? I had one just like it that mysteriously stopped working one
day. Get the case _soon_. Naked SATA cables are NOT the look this season!

Sean, trying not to hyperventilate and shielding the IBM eserver's gaze from
the horror...

-- 
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From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 12 11:43:29 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (Ginger)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 04:43:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Cataloging holiday?
In-Reply-To: <davltr+h50f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050712114330.35991.qmail@web30214.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



kippesp <paul-groups at wibbles.org> wrote:
What kind of need will there be for catloging posts after Friday?  I
wouldn't mind going silent for several days while I move things around
the city--while at the same time put the server into a real case. 
Wednesday I get to become a real grown up and purchase a house.  I may
power up the server at my parent's place until I sort out Internet
services.


Ginger:

Congrats on the house!  Since you asked so nicely, I *suppose* we could take a bit of a break, although it ruins my plans for the weekend, which were to read HBP with the book in my hands, and code with my feet, one for the mouse, the other for the keyboard, just making random clicks here and there.  I figured no one will notice until the next review.

I'm just kidding, of course.  I did plan to quit for a bit and read the new book.  Could you tell us what times you had in mind for shutdown and restart?  Or even shutdown, and send out an e-mail when you are ready for us to start up again?

And, of course, for the truly fanatical, we can always print out the post numbers and read them on the main list (except for club) and code them when you get back up.  

Enjoy the house!  Ginger


		
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From stevejjen at earthlink.net  Tue Jul 12 13:03:18 2005
From: stevejjen at earthlink.net (Jen Reese)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:03:18 -0000
Subject: Cataloging holiday?
In-Reply-To: <davltr+h50f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db0f2m+5vc5@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "kippesp" <paul-groups at w...> 
wrote:
> What kind of need will there be for catloging posts after Friday?  
I
> wouldn't mind going silent for several days while I move things 
around
> the city--while at the same time put the server into a real case. 
> Wednesday I get to become a real grown up and purchase a house.  I 
may
> power up the server at my parent's place until I sort out Internet
> services.

That's great! Hope you enjoy your new place (after the boxes of 
course). I'll third Sean and Ginger to say I'm guessing no one will 
be coding. Should we get the message to Kelly, or does it not matter 
with the set-up she has while on-board the ship?
 
> Oh, and in case you're wondering, I uploaded a picture of the 
computer
> our Catalog is running on.   Just don't drop any paperclips on it!


???? Where? I looked in photos and links and the homepage. 

Jen





From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Tue Jul 12 20:28:20 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:28:20 -0000
Subject: Misc replies
Message-ID: <db1954+e6au@eGroups.com>

KathyW:
Are there any other "spoken for" categories that may not really be 
claimed? 

C - I think most people who have put their names down are doing 
something, or intend to do so. I'd pick a non-spoken for section next 
just to be sure.

***********

KathySnow:

My suggestion would be to make a new subcategory (Lily and love) for 
Lily and her many proposed lovers so anyone unaware of an acronym and 
its meaning would be able to find all the EWWs and LOLLIPOPS they 
ever wanted in one place and it would also reduce the swelling of the 
main Lily category.

C - This seems a reasonable suggestion to me. My only question would 
be, are there really many other types of post about Lily?

KathySnow:
The second question is almost the same, should we keep the Lily
category checked when the topic is Godric's Hollow/Death of Lily and 
James?

C - my vote is no.

KathySnow:
The third question is more of a comment that we should place Lily's
sacrifice under the Lily heading so it would be easier to find (for
the user) and because it is a direct connection to Lily it makes more 
sense to have it there.

C - In what sense do you mean this? Most of the posts discussing how 
her death protected Harry are under 'Ancient Magic' and/or 'Death of 
Lily & James/GH' I think. I'm not sure we'd want to move them to a 
subset under Lily, would we?

KathySnow:
The last concern is about two of the acronyms under Lily:
MAKE ME BARF= "Monstrous Activity: Keeping Evil Men Entertained By
Allocating Rescued Females"
and
FOUL SLAVERY= (Females Offer Unlimited Levity: Save Lily And
Voldemort Eagerly Rewards You!)

These acronyms have only produced two posts collectively and most
likely will not see any further activity because the TEWW EWW and
variants category will sufficiently cover these types of posts along 
with Peter-Gets-The-Girl.

C- these two are likely to be prime candidates for folding into a 
category heading. However, I'd like to do this in one go, rather than 
piecemeal.

KathySnow - who knows how the Potters got all their money, Lily
charged for her affection!

C - A lady of unusual tastes and interests. James wasn't called 
Prongs for nothing.

**************
Paul:
What kind of need will there be for catloging posts after Friday? I
wouldn't mind going silent for several days while I move things 
around the city--while at the same time put the server into a real 
case. Wednesday I get to become a real grown up and purchase a house. 
I may power up the server at my parent's place until I sort out 
Internet services.

C - You got a house at last! Well done (he's been doing a lot of 
traipsing about viewing these last months).

Could you keep us up and running until Friday night? Then I think 
everyone will disappear for at the very least the weekend, maybe for 
some time! Could you get the catalogue back up and running again by 
the following weekend, the 23rd? I was planning on doing some tidying 
up, things I have not gotten around to recently like implementing 
Kelly's review decisions etc.

Paul:
Oh, and in case you're wondering, I uploaded a picture of the 
computer our Catalog is running on. Just don't drop any paperclips on 
it!

C - Um. Gosh....dare I ask why you took it's lid off? No, best not.

*********
Ginger:
...which were to read HBP with the book in my hands, and code with my 
feet, one for the mouse, the other for the keyboard, just making 
random clicks here and there.

C - could we have a photo of this please?

********
Jen:
Should we get the message to Kelly, or does it not matter
with the set-up she has while on-board the ship?


???? Where? I looked in photos and links and the homepage.


C - she's working on a duplicate, not to worry. She can read the 
messages here, but it is difficult for her to post, and she can't 
access Paul's computer at all.

The pic is in the files section - a jpeg posted by Paul.









From ewe2 at 4dot0.net  Tue Jul 12 22:40:46 2005
From: ewe2 at 4dot0.net (ewe2)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:40:46 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Re: Cataloging holiday?
In-Reply-To: <db0f2m+5vc5@eGroups.com>
References: <davltr+h50f@eGroups.com> <db0f2m+5vc5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050712224046.GB19986@4dot0.net>

On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 01:03:18PM -0000, Jen Reese wrote:
> 
> ???? Where? I looked in photos and links and the homepage. 

In the Files section. It's called hpcat.jpg :)



-- 
sed awk grep cat dd ..Im a luser baby ,so why don't you killall -kill me.




From ewe2 at 4dot0.net  Tue Jul 12 23:07:06 2005
From: ewe2 at 4dot0.net (ewe2)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 09:07:06 +1000
Subject: Historical Wizarding characters & Recommended additional reading
Message-ID: <20050712230706.GC19986@4dot0.net>

2.12.1-2.12.6 Historical Wizarding characters

total: 261 from 282

Grindelwald 38 from 58 

- mostly because posts merely mention him in connection with other issues like
  Riddle or DD's age. There are some very nice theories about G's role with
  Riddle though that get the juices flowing for HBP.

Salazar Slytherin 133 from 134

- well-coded and just as interesting as Grindelwald. Most of the founders are
  mentioned together in posts. 

Godric Gryffindor 107 no change. 

Helga Hufflepuff 23 no change

Rowena Ravenclaw 26 no change

I want to thank Jen for her work on the CoS chapters which appear to have done
much of the work for me, particularly on Salazar and Godric!


4.1.6 Recommended Additional reading

176

No change. Pretty much speaks for itself as a category, it's hard to go wrong
with this.


Dat's me done!

-- 
sed awk grep cat dd ..Im a luser baby ,so why don't you killall -kill me.




From kking0731 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 13 00:25:23 2005
From: kking0731 at gmail.com (snow15145)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:25:23 -0000
Subject: Misc replies
In-Reply-To: <db1954+e6au@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db1n1j+4rs5@eGroups.com>



KathySnow:

My suggestion would be to make a new subcategory (Lily and love) for
Lily and her many proposed lovers so anyone unaware of an acronym and
its meaning would be able to find all the EWWs and LOLLIPOPS they
ever wanted in one place and it would also reduce the swelling of the
main Lily category.

C - This seems a reasonable suggestion to me. My only question would
be, are there really many other types of post about Lily?

Snow:

You mean other than Snape? There's Voldy, Pettigrew, Lucius and 
Lupin, and a smidge of Avery so far.  All of these are too EWW and 
variants except Lupin.  Lupin loved Lily becomes a little more active 
after OOP.  There are a total of 57 posts about all her lovers, 
including LOLLIPOPS that have been coded to Lily, so far. 

KathySnow:
The second question is almost the same, should we keep the Lily
category checked when the topic is Godric's Hollow/Death of Lily and
James?

C - my vote is no.

Snow:

Thank you! I don't find much need to have it ticked to both. 

KathySnow:
The third question is more of a comment that we should place Lily's
sacrifice under the Lily heading so it would be easier to find (for
the user) and because it is a direct connection to Lily it makes more
sense to have it there.

C - In what sense do you mean this? Most of the posts discussing how
her death protected Harry are under 'Ancient Magic' and/or 'Death of
Lily & James/GH' I think. I'm not sure we'd want to move them to a
subset under Lily, would we?

Snow:

These posts that I'm speaking of are about Lily's life saving 
sacrifice with a twist of what else Lily may have done in the way of 
a charm that actually saved Harry. I have not come across any posts 
like these in coding, I assumed they would have been ticked to Lily's 
sacrifice but if they are to go under Ancient Magic then no I would 
not want to move that category under Lily. I see the differentiation, 
that's fine. I will mark them to be changed to Ancient Magic instead 
of Lily's sacrifice.  

KathySnow:
The last concern is about two of the acronyms under Lily:
MAKE ME BARF= "Monstrous Activity: Keeping Evil Men Entertained By
Allocating Rescued Females"
and
FOUL SLAVERY= (Females Offer Unlimited Levity: Save Lily And
Voldemort Eagerly Rewards You!)

These acronyms have only produced two posts collectively and most
likely will not see any further activity because the TEWW EWW and
variants category will sufficiently cover these types of posts along
with Peter-Gets-The-Girl.

C- these two are likely to be prime candidates for folding into a
category heading. However, I'd like to do this in one go, rather than
piecemeal.

Snow:

That's fine. They both fit neatly under the TWW EWW category when 
that comes around. 

KathySnow - who knows how the Potters got all their money, Lily
charged for her affection!

C - A lady of unusual tastes and interests. James wasn't called
Prongs for nothing.

Snow:

Hehe
What a lucky lady (of the night)






From kking0731 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 13 03:27:47 2005
From: kking0731 at gmail.com (snow15145)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 03:27:47 -0000
Subject: Cataloging holiday?
In-Reply-To: <davltr+h50f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db21nj+ser1@eGroups.com>

Paul:

I wouldn't mind going silent for several days while I move things 
around the city--while at the same time put the server into a real 
case. Wednesday I get to become a real grown up and purchase a house.

Snow:

Oh Paul! Give that server some kind of shell for protection or privacy. 
With all my husband's computers and hubs that look like I may lift off 
anytime to an unknown destination with their blinking lights, they 
aren't bear naked. It's almost pornographic to look at that! 

Good luck with your new home Paul! 

KathySnow






From spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 13 10:39:25 2005
From: spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com (dungrollin)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:39:25 -0000
Subject: Misc replies
In-Reply-To: <db1n1j+4rs5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db2r0t+hc65@eGroups.com>

> KathySnow:
The third question is more of a comment that we should place Lily's
sacrifice under the Lily heading so it would be easier to find (for
the user) and because it is a direct connection to Lily it makes 
more sense to have it there.
> 
> C - In what sense do you mean this? Most of the posts discussing 
how her death protected Harry are under 'Ancient Magic' 
and/or 'Death of Lily & James/GH' I think. I'm not sure we'd want to 
move them to a subset under Lily, would we?
> 
> Snow:
These posts that I'm speaking of are about Lily's life saving 
sacrifice with a twist of what else Lily may have done in the way of 
a charm that actually saved Harry. I have not come across any posts 
like these in coding, I assumed they would have been ticked to 
Lily's sacrifice but if they are to go under Ancient Magic then no I 
would not want to move that category under Lily. I see the 
differentiation, that's fine. I will mark them to be changed to 
Ancient Magic instead of Lily's sacrifice.  
> 

Dot:
Sorry, have been internet free since Friday night, due to a burned 
out transformer, and an exploding replacement which burned down the 
box it was hiding in. Cote d'Ivoire Telecom, efficient as always, 
has only just got it fixed.

Snow, hold on with bunging stuff into Ancient Magic, please. I've 
just reviewed that, and moved a whole load of posts from there to 
blood protection.  I was hoping to have finished the whole section 
by now, but due to aforementioned explosions have been on forced 
gardening leave.

Here's the review of what I did to Ancient magic:

3.8.2.1 Ancient Magic (98 posts, now 39)

30 posts moved to 3.5.4 Blood protection/Lily's sacrifice
1 post moved to magical items
4 posts moved to 3.9.8 Voldy's re-bodification potion
24 posts removed from 3.8.2.1 Ancient Magic because they only 
mentioned it.

Old definition:
"What it is, examples of"

New definition: 
"Specific discussion of what it is; try to keep separate from 3.5.4 
(Blood protection/Lily's sacrifice), 3.8.2.2 (Life debts) and 3.9.8 
(Voldy's re-bodification)"

The posts about Lily's sacrifice might mention that DD called 
it 'Ancient Magic' but don't discuss what Ancient Magic is in 
itself, which is why I don't want them there.  Lily's sacrifice and 
the blood protection, 'Life debts', and Voldy's re-bodification are 
all examples of Ancient Magic, so unless Ancient Magic as a (rather 
abstract) concept is discussed rather than these speific examples, I 
don't think they should be in there.

Sound ok?

As for spoilers, I have very cunningly managed to time my return to 
the UK for Friday lunchtime, so I shall have a copy of HBP in my 
grubby mits as early as possible Saturday morning.  Phew!

Dot, catching up.





From willsonkmom at msn.com  Wed Jul 13 11:52:04 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:52:04 -0000
Subject: Personal Possessions
Message-ID: <db2v94+ftsm@eGroups.com>

All four sections have now been reduced.

WW Clothes should become WW clothing and uniforms
don't code here if it's only discussing how a particular person's 
clothing looks or why Molly gets maroon for Ron. Should be for 
general clothing.

Watches and clocks: have enough "Why does it work at Hogwarts" and 
enough "Why didn't Molly look at the clock?"
 Worst post suggested that Harry's watch was Dudley's top of the line 
digital watch that he had broken and Harry had repaired. 

Best post stated that it wasn't a Grandfather's clock but a mother's 
clock because it had all those things a mother worries about.

cameras: do not need anymore "Why does it work at Hogwarts?" 

socks: a few were more about DD than socks and were removed. 

Congrats on your new house, Paul!

Kathy W, taking off for the catalogue holiday!





From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 13 13:19:02 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (quigonginger)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:19:02 -0000
Subject: holiday and pic
Message-ID: <db34c6+9ivc@eGroups.com>

Interesting picture, Paul.  It kind of looks like something my dad had 
around when he used to do model railroading.  Did you make that 
yourself?  

If I could ask a favour of you, Paul.  I think I remember you saying 
you were in Texas.  If so, would you mind including the Central Time 
Zone with your times for shutdown and startup of the site?  
Mathematical thoughts do not compute with me.  I have enough trouble 
translating when I talk to my cousin in Ohio.  I forget if I am 
backward or forward.  If it wouldn't be too much trouble, that is.

Thanks, Ginger, working on Durm/Beau and can't seem to see Madam 
Maxime without abbreviating it Mad Max.  Never even saw the movie, but 
I've had "we don't need another hero" in my head.





From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Wed Jul 13 17:38:34 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:38:34 -0000
Subject: From Kelly re spoilers and 3.16.5/3.16.5.1
Message-ID: <db3jiq+ttsr@eGroups.com>


Re spoilers on the list:

I would really appreciate it if spoilers are kept off the Catalogue 
list, 
since I'm reading the list via Daily Digest emails and therefore am 
bound to 
glimpse the spoilers even if spoiler space is provided.

Re my plans for HBP:

Both myself and one other Harry Potter fan on board are praying for a 
weather divert so we can stop by a port early and get the book.  
Barring 
that, I'm hoping the Navy Exchange still has copies when I get into 
port at 
the end of the month.  I plan to read it on the 13-hour plane ride 
back 
home, since I've given up trying to sleep on planes (took sleeping 
pills on 
the way out; didn't work).

And now some more reviews:

3.16.5 School discipline, general
---------------------------------
Originally: 75
Now: 26

For once, I didn't grow tired of a topic while reviewing; this 
category 
contained a little bit of everything.  Most of which I threw out.  :) 
Because the title of this category is so vague and all-encompassing, 
many 
posts were placed here that fit much better in other categories: 
teaching 
methods, points sytem, prefects, following/breaking the rules, the 
Prank, 
etc.  In all but four cases, they were already coded to said 
appropriate 
code in addition to 3.16.5.

I decided to reserve this category for posts that discuss Hogwarts 
discipline systems and do not fit it any other categories.  This 
includes 
predominately discussion of detention and expulsion.


3.16.5.1 Prefects & Head Boy/Girl
---------------------------------
Originally: 136
Now: 80

Discussion of prefect/head duties, how prefects/heads are chosen, and 
future 
prefect/head boy/head girl predictions (leading up to OoP).  Most of 
the 
rejected posts were due to repetitious predictions for OoP prefects.

-Kelly 







From jmmears at comcast.net  Wed Jul 13 17:46:35 2005
From: jmmears at comcast.net (serenadust)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:46:35 -0000
Subject: Differences between editions/Caps&Punct/Illust.
Message-ID: <db3k1r+a98s@eGroups.com>

I'm very happy to say that I've finally completed the 4.1.2
(differences between editions), 4.1.2.1 (Capitalization & 
Punctuation), and 4.1.2.2 (Illustrations) sections.

The 4.1.2 section was reduced from 423 posts to 349, mainly by 
sharply reducing the number of posts complaining about the "dumbing 
down" of the US editions of PS/SS.  I also decided to 
reduce/eliminate the posts discussing the "wand order" inconsistency 
in GoF since they were mostly also coded to 3.8.4.4 (Priori 
Incantatum/Incantato) as well.  One reason this section took me so 
blasted long is that I have a terrible tendency to overthink these 
things and changed my mind at least twice about several of these 
posts.  I just hope I haven't been *too* inconsistent, because I 
have a real weakness for Tabouli's posts and may have kept a few in 
this category just because they're so darn much fun to read :D.

As for 4.1.2.1(Capitalization and Punctuation), I reduced the 4 
posts to 2 (50% reduction, YAY!)and reduced 4.1.2.2 (Illustrations) 
from 104 to 94.

I'm very sorry that I haven't been able to contribute as much to the 
Catalogue project as I originally had hoped, but I'm awed at the 
dedication (and productivity) of so many of the other members of the 
team.  I don't anticipate having much more free time for the rest of 
the summer but hope that I may be able to help a bit more come 
September.

I hope everyone can enjoy the HBP break and can fully savor the new 
canon experience.  One thing that this project has really impressed 
on me is how great some of the past posting was compared to the 
current level of discussion.  Maybe this new book will inspire some 
of the really talented members to re-establish the high quality, 
imaginative discussion that used to define HPfGU.

Well, I can hope....

Jo Serenadust, who would also like to say how relieved she was to 
see that our London-based members came through the recent horror 
intact.






From paul-groups at wibbles.org  Wed Jul 13 19:51:09 2005
From: paul-groups at wibbles.org (Paul Kippes)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:51:09 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] holiday and pic
In-Reply-To: <db34c6+9ivc@eGroups.com>
References: <db34c6+9ivc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c89e39d505071312511c9f0f3b@mail.gmail.com>

I'll leave it on until Saturday morning since I'm going to the book
release on Friday night.  So, off at 2 am central on Saturday morning.
 That's around 8 GMT I think.

On 7/13/05, quigonginger <quigonginger at yahoo.com> wrote:
>  Interesting picture, Paul.  It kind of looks like something my dad had 
>  around when he used to do model railroading.  Did you make that 
>  yourself?  
>  
>  If I could ask a favour of you, Paul.  I think I remember you saying 
>  you were in Texas.  If so, would you mind including the Central Time 
>  Zone with your times for shutdown and startup of the site?  
>  Mathematical thoughts do not compute with me.  I have enough trouble 
>  translating when I talk to my cousin in Ohio.  I forget if I am 
>  backward or forward.  If it wouldn't be too much trouble, that is.
>  
>  Thanks, Ginger, working on Durm/Beau and can't seem to see Madam 
>  Maxime without abbreviating it Mad Max.  Never even saw the movie, but 
>  I've had "we don't need another hero" in my head.
>  
>  
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From kking0731 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 14 02:12:27 2005
From: kking0731 at gmail.com (snow15145)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 02:12:27 -0000
Subject: Misc replies
In-Reply-To: <db2r0t+hc65@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db4hmb+8qs9@eGroups.com>

> > KathySnow:
> The third question is more of a comment that we should place Lily's
> sacrifice under the Lily heading so it would be easier to find (for
> the user) and because it is a direct connection to Lily it makes 
> more sense to have it there.
> > 
> > C - In what sense do you mean this? Most of the posts discussing 
> how her death protected Harry are under 'Ancient Magic' 
> and/or 'Death of Lily & James/GH' I think. I'm not sure we'd want 
to 
> move them to a subset under Lily, would we?
> > 
> > Snow:
> These posts that I'm speaking of are about Lily's life saving 
> sacrifice with a twist of what else Lily may have done in the way 
of 
> a charm that actually saved Harry. I have not come across any posts 
> like these in coding, I assumed they would have been ticked to 
> Lily's sacrifice but if they are to go under Ancient Magic then no 
I 
> would not want to move that category under Lily. I see the 
> differentiation, that's fine. I will mark them to be changed to 
> Ancient Magic instead of Lily's sacrifice.  
> > 
> 
> Dot:

> Snow, hold on with bunging stuff into Ancient Magic, please. I've 
> just reviewed that, and moved a whole load of posts from there to 
> blood protection.  I was hoping to have finished the whole section 
> by now, but due to aforementioned explosions have been on forced 
> gardening leave.
snip
> The posts about Lily's sacrifice might mention that DD called 
> it 'Ancient Magic' but don't discuss what Ancient Magic is in 
> itself, which is why I don't want them there.  Lily's sacrifice and 
> the blood protection, 'Life debts', and Voldy's re-bodification are 
> all examples of Ancient Magic, so unless Ancient Magic as a (rather 
> abstract) concept is discussed rather than these speific examples, 
I 
> don't think they should be in there.
> 
> Sound ok?


Snow:

It's ok by me. That was pretty much my original thoughts. 
Carolyn, if you are in agreement that these types of posts will now 
go under the Lily Sacrifice category, I would think it best to move 
this category to a subset of Lily like I originally stated. I'm not 
really up for too much more decision making at the moment so whatever 
everyone agrees on is fine with me. Just let me know.

Thanks bunches

KathySnow






From spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 14 12:18:26 2005
From: spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com (dungrollin)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 12:18:26 -0000
Subject: From Kelly re spoilers
In-Reply-To: <db3jiq+ttsr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db5l6i+3rqp@eGroups.com>


> Kelly, Re spoilers on the list:
> 
> I would really appreciate it if spoilers are kept off the 
Catalogue list, since I'm reading the list via Daily Digest emails 
and therefore am bound to  glimpse the spoilers even if spoiler 
space is provided.
> 

Dot:
I hereby solemnly declare that I will not mention any HBP spoilers 
here, nor will I do any jumping up and down or squealing, nor 
indulge in any overexcitable childish behaviour (including nudging 
and winking) designed to induce frustration in those who are HBP-
less, until we get an email from Kelly saying she's read it.

> Kelly, Re my plans for HBP:
> 
> Both myself and one other Harry Potter fan on board are praying 
for a weather divert so we can stop by a port early and get the 
book. Barring that, I'm hoping the Navy Exchange still has copies 
when I get into port at the end of the month.  I plan to read it on 
the 13-hour plane ride back home, since I've given up trying to 
sleep on planes (took sleeping pills on the way out; didn't work).
> 

Best of luck with that.
Dot.





From elfundeb at comcast.net  Thu Jul 14 16:12:54 2005
From: elfundeb at comcast.net (Debbie)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:12:54 -0000
Subject: The big run-up/clothes/Equality&Fairness/Prank/OtherWCharacters
In-Reply-To: <dau95u+dneu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db62u6+8g17@eGroups.com>

> Carolyn:

> So, what this boils down to is splitting 1.1.5 between either 
1.1.7.1 
> (Child abuse/mistreatment) - that's for the bullying stuff, or 
3.2.6 
> (Racism & bigotry) - for the discrimination stuff?

Yes, except that I'd put the bullying stuff in a separate subcategory 
(primarily because I've already reviewed those posts, but have been 
avoiding Child abuse like the plague).  When the forest has been 
properly thinned we can decide whether to merge them.  

I'm now finished with Equality and Fairness.  Not having heard any 
objections, I've done the following:

1.1.5 Equality and Fairness (was 115, will be 0)
I've moved the 10-15 posts that needed recoding, and the category 
(1.1.5.) can be eliminated.

1.1.5.1 Inequality, Bullying and Discrimination (was 216, now 77)
I've removed all of the discrimination posts, plus assorted 
repetition and irrelevancies.  A few were recoded to 3.2.6. (Class 
System, Racism and Bigotry) but most of the posts were already coded 
there.  This leaves 77 bullying posts.  As I mentioned above, I 
recommend that they be moved into their own subset under Parenting 
and Child Development, rather than being merged into Child 
abuse/Mistreatment for now.

> I have actually said several times that 3.2.6 poses some problems 
in 
> overlap, so I am glad to see this happen. However... should we now 
> move 3.2.6 up into metathemes, because it is such a major theme?
> 
> DOUG - Oy! I know you are working on sections 3.1. - 3.2.6, have 
you 
> got this far yet, what do you think?

I agree with moving 3.2.6 Class System, Racism and Bigotry to 
Metathemes.  It could be plonked right into the gap left by the 
elimination of Equality and Fairness.  However, I'd tweak the title 
slightly to say Class System, Bigotry and Prejudice.  

As it's the last subcategory under 3.2, and it contains 406 posts 
(including 9 posts I moved here from 1.1.5. and 1.1.5.1.), I'd be 
willing to bet that he hasn't gotten to it yet.

And now, I'll be tacking up my "out of office" message on the 
Catalogue Office door and checking out to prepare for the extended 
HBP holiday, which I shall kick off by eating dinner at my favorite 
Chinese restaurant, then picking up my copy at a nearby B&N and 
paying for it with a gift card I received back at Christmas.  More 
worrisome is whether I'll have time to read it over the weekend, as 
it's packed with obligatory activities, mostly kids' sporting events 
that had to be rescheduled due to rainouts.

When I return, I'll do either 1.1.7 (Parenting & child development) 
or the renumbered Class System etc. (assuming Doug has not done it). 
Your choice, captain!

Happy shopping, happy reading to all!

Debbie
who now must figure out how to respond to a request from Hans to post 
the Quidditch essay on his site -- anyone know the link to it?






From ewe2 at 4dot0.net  Thu Jul 14 15:57:00 2005
From: ewe2 at 4dot0.net (ewe2)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 01:57:00 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Re: From Kelly re spoilers
In-Reply-To: <db5l6i+3rqp@eGroups.com>
References: <db3jiq+ttsr@eGroups.com> <db5l6i+3rqp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050714155700.GE19986@4dot0.net>

On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 12:18:26PM -0000, dungrollin wrote:

> Dot:
> I hereby solemnly declare that I will not mention any HBP spoilers 
> here, nor will I do any jumping up and down or squealing, nor 
> indulge in any overexcitable childish behaviour (including nudging 
> and winking) designed to induce frustration in those who are HBP-
> less, until we get an email from Kelly saying she's read it.

I will keep my eeks to myself, reduce my flipper-flapping, and avoid gleeful
tobogganing whereever possible.

Sean, penguin in suspense. (eek! Ssssh!!!)

-- 
sed awk grep cat dd ..Im a luser baby ,so why don't you killall -kill me.




From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Fri Jul 15 21:00:40 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:00:40 -0000
Subject: UPDATE, Friday 15th July & turning out the lights
Message-ID: <db985o+3n44@eGroups.com>

I forgot to do an update last Sunday, owing to computer crash, and the 
database will be down from tomorrow morning, so here's a final update 
apres duluge:

PROGRESS
We have now coded 68598 posts, and rejected 40337, a satisfying 58.8% 
(up from 58.4% last week). 

We have reviewed 74 of our 106 sections, so well done everyone.

Don't know when any of us will be back here, but I will get on with 
Voldie review (half completed) and do many housekeeping tasks on and 
off over the next month or two. Check in when you want.

My big achievement has been completing a re-read of the whole series in 
10 days, just closed OOP half an hour ago. Somehow, it was really 
important to do this, to be in the same mental frame as the characters 
who will only have moved on a few days or weeks, although we have 
waited two years.

And like last time, the hot, dry weather in the opening and closing 
paras of OOP is uncannily like the real weather we were having in the 
UK in 2003, and the same is true right now, complete with threatened 
hosepipe bans. Gives a sort of heightened sense that the stories are 
taking place in real time.

That said, I still found most of the first third/half of OOP as 
stodgily unreadable as I did the first time. Hoping against hope she's 
on better form with HBP.

Cheers - and remember no spoilers here until everyone has confirmed 
they've read it.

Carolyn











From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 15 23:50:57 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (quigonginger)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 23:50:57 -0000
Subject: Beau/Durm
Message-ID: <db9i51+bqbu@eGroups.com>

Considering that *some of you* have had your book for 47 minutes now 
and won't want to stop to read this, I'll make it short.

General: was 30, now 20
Mad Max: was 22, now 15
Fleur:  was 126, now 77
acronyms:  unchanged- note that the 2 posts under DOCTOR FLOWER and 
HIDING THEFT are the same 2 posts.
Vik: was 182, now 223

Happy reading, Ginger





From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 15 23:52:38 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (quigonginger)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 23:52:38 -0000
Subject: BUGGERIT
Message-ID: <db9i86+r1fg@eGroups.com>

Ok, Vik is not "was 182, now 223" as I said in my last post.

He was 182, now 99.

The total for the section was 372, now 223.

Buggerit.

Ginger, in a hurry to get on with tonight.





From ewe2 at 4dot0.net  Mon Jul 18 03:59:31 2005
From: ewe2 at 4dot0.net (ewe2)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:59:31 +1000
Subject: apologies
Message-ID: <20050718035931.GC29882@4dot0.net>

I mistakenly posted something meant for TOC here, I've deleted it, and
apologize to those who may be affected by spoiler email :(

ewe2, stupid penguin

-- 
sed awk grep cat dd ..Im a luser baby ,so why don't you killall -kill me.




From willsonkmom at msn.com  Wed Jul 20 14:34:20 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 14:34:20 -0000
Subject: Just for a laugh, Nothing to do with HBP
Message-ID: <dblndc+ttna@eGroups.com>

This was forwarded to me and I just couldn't resist passing it on.
Cheers,
Kathy W


Subject: Recently, I was diagnosed with A. A. A. D. D. 
  
  
Do you have it too? 
Recently, I was diagnosed with A. A. A. D. D. -     Age Activated 
Attention Deficit Disorder. 
This is how it manifests: 
I decide to water my garden. 
As I turn on the hose in the driveway, I look over at my car and 
decide my car needs washing. 
As I start toward the garage, I notice that there is mail on the 
porch table that I brought up from the mail box earlier. 
I decide to go through the mail before I wash the car. 
I lay my car keys down on the table, put the junk mail in the garbage 
can under the table, and notice that the can is full. 
So, I decide to put the bills back on the table and take out the 
garbage first. 
But then I think, since I'm going to be near the mailbox when I take 
out the garbage anyway, I may as well pay the bills first. 
I take my check book off the table, and see that there is only one 
check left. 
My extra checks are in my desk in the study, so I go inside the house 
to my desk where I find the can of Coke that I had been drinking. 
I'm going to look for my checks, but first I need to push the Coke 
aside so that I don't accidentally knock it over.     I realize the 
Coke is getting warm, and I decide I should put it in the 
refrigerator to keep it cold. 
As I head toward the kitchen with the Coke, a vase of flowers rest on 
the counter catches my eye--they need to be watered. 
I set the Coke down on the counter, and I discover my reading glasses 
that I've been searching for all morning. 
I decide I better put them back on my desk, but first I'm going to 
water the flowers. 
I set the glasses back down on the counter, fill a container with 
water and suddenly I spot the TV remote. Someone left it on the 
kitchen table. 
I realize that tonight when we go to watch TV, I will be looking for 
the remote, but I won't remember that it's on the kitchen table, so I 
decide to put it back in the den where it belongs, but first I'll 
water the flowers. 
I pour some water in the flowers, but quite a bit of it spills on the 
floor. 
So, I set the remote back down on the table, get some towels and wipe 
up the spill. 
Then I head down the hall trying to remember what I was planning to 
do. 
At the end of the day: 
the driveway is flooded, 
the car isn't washed, 
the bills aren't paid,   
there is a warm can of Coke sitting on the counter,   
there is still only one check in my check book, 
I can't find the remote, 
I can't find my glasses, 
and I don't remember what I did with the car keys. 
  
Then when I try to figure out why nothing got done today, I'm really 
baffled!  I know I was busy all day long, and I'm really tired. 
  
I realize this is a serious problem, and I'll try to get some help 
for it, but first I'll check my e-mail. 
  
Do me a favor, will you? Forward this message to everyone you know, 
because I don't remember to whom it has been sent. 
  
Don't laugh -- if this isn't you yet, your day is coming!* 
  
  


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. 
Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-
evident." 
- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) 
  
God Bless America






From willsonkmom at msn.com  Wed Jul 20 14:36:43 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 14:36:43 -0000
Subject: Just for a laugh, Nothing to do with HBP
In-Reply-To: <dblndc+ttna@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dblnhr+5mf1@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "potioncat" <willsonkmom at m...> 
wrote:
> This was forwarded to me and I just couldn't resist passing it on.
> Cheers,
> Kathy W
> 
> 


Oops! Sorry for the flag waving. I didn't mean to copy that last bit.
Kathy W.





From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Wed Jul 20 17:45:29 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:45:29 -0000
Subject: From Kelly, re 3.16.6 etc & she still has not seen the book :(
Message-ID: <dbm2jp+dng4@eGroups.com>

3.16.6 Teachers
---------------
Originally: 149
Now: 66

Includes all discussion of teachers EXCEPT their teaching methods and 
qualifications, which belong in 3.16.6.1.  This includes where they 
live, 
whether they have spouses, their level of education, staff dynamics, 
etc.

Most of the posts I rejected were either those double-coded 
unnecessarily to 
both teachers and teaching methods, those using teachers as examples 
to make 
an entirely separate point (esp. male/female portrayal), and those 
discussing an individual teacher character.

3.16.6.1 Teaching Methods
-------------------------
Originally: 242
Now: 154

This category is actually a little more broad than just teaching 
methods; it 
includes discussion of teacher methods, qualifications, motivations, 
etc. 
Basically, any discussion of the teachers in their classroom roles.  
Tons of 
Snape, lots of Hagrid, some Trelawney, McGonagall, Binns, more Snape, 
and 
one Apolyon Pringle.  I also kept discussion of Dumbledore as school 
administrator.  The posts I rejected were mostly those that strayed 
too far 
into character analysis, even if they included mention of teaching (I 
read 
several excellent Snape treatises that I felt were too Snape-centric 
for 
this category).  And also the obligatory repeated ideas were 
rejected, 
mostly Snape-related.

3.16.6.2 Textbooks
------------------
Originally: 26
Now: 20

No real problems here.  I rejected a few passing-mention posts.  
Discussion 
of the textbooks, how they are chosen, how they are formatted, etc.

3.16.6.3 Exams
--------------
Originally: 56
Now: 37

Again, no big problems, just some repetition in explaining A/O/GCSE, 
Highers, and AP/IB exams to non-Brits, non-Scots, and non-Americans, 
respectively.  For all discussion of OWLs, NEWTs, and end-of-the-year 
exams.

-Kelly







From paul-groups at wibbles.org  Thu Jul 21 06:10:51 2005
From: paul-groups at wibbles.org (Paul Kippes)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 01:10:51 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Re: Cataloging holiday?
In-Reply-To: <db21nj+ser1@eGroups.com>
References: <davltr+h50f@eGroups.com> <db21nj+ser1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c89e39d505072023101be226db@mail.gmail.com>

I've gone ahead and turned the Catalog back on.  It will probably be
at this IP address for at least the next two weeks.

On 7/12/05, snow15145 <kking0731 at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Paul:
>  
>  I wouldn't mind going silent for several days while I move things 
>  around the city--while at the same time put the server into a real 
>  case. Wednesday I get to become a real grown up and purchase a house.
>  
>  Snow:
>  
>  Oh Paul! Give that server some kind of shell for protection or privacy. 
>  With all my husband's computers and hubs that look like I may lift off 
>  anytime to an unknown destination with their blinking lights, they 
>  aren't bear naked. It's almost pornographic to look at that! 
>  
>  Good luck with your new home Paul! 
>  
>  KathySnow
>  
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From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 25 11:38:06 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (quigonginger)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 11:38:06 -0000
Subject: us all on the same page
Message-ID: <dc2iuu+adei@eGroups.com>

Ok, I looked at what is left for sections in the database that has 
all sections listed, and then I cross-referrenced with the databases 
that have them broken down.

The 4 broken down databases have lots of stuff that is unclaimed, but 
that has already been done according to the main database.

I'm going to write down what the main database says and if the broken 
down one differs, I'll note it.

1.01.6/1.1.6.1
Death & immortality/graveyards & burial practices

1.01.7/1.01.7.1/1.01.7.2
Parenting & child develpoment/ child abuse. maturity & immaturity

1.01.8/1.1.8.1
Bravery and courage/ cowardice and fear

All these are blank on the main base, but some are signed to Laurasia 
on the brokendown one.  I assume that since Laurasia is not among us 
now that these are up for grabs.

1.02.11-1.02.11.7
Group dynamics
Unsigned on the main base, KathyK has them except for trio dynamics 
(which is unsigned) on the broken down list.  

1.02.13-1.02.13.8.1/1.02.13.12
Symbolism and runes
Unsigned or Laurasia.  See above.

3.04-3.7.8.1
WW health/Physiology/bloodlines/inheritance/Quidditch/culture& media
Unsigned on both except that Dot is down for squibs on the brokendown 
list.

3.08.4&3.08.5
Spells potions & incantations/ animagi
Unclaimed on main base.  KathyK is listed on the brokendown one.


3.08.6-3.8.6.9
Magical items

3.10-3.10.8
Magic travel

3.15-3.1.14
Geographic locations

4.1.1-4.1.1.2
Pronunciation/accents& dialects/speech patterns

These are unclaimed on the main, and under Laurasia on the brokendown 
one.  Same story.

So..........

KathyK and Dot?  Are you planning to do these?  Have you done them?  
Is anyone else working on any of these and just hasn't signed in yet?

Are these all that are left?

I'm not trying to be pushy or suggest that our holiday is up, just 
making sure we are all on the same page so we can avoid any confusion 
in the future and start our post-HBP lives with a sense of order.

Ginger, hoping that everyone is enjoying the new book and missing the 
e-mails I got from this group





From willsonkmom at msn.com  Mon Jul 25 12:14:03 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:14:03 -0000
Subject: us all on the same page
In-Reply-To: <dc2iuu+adei@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dc2l2b+e83p@eGroups.com>


Potioncat slips her key into the lock and carefully opens the 
catalogue office door. She's hoping to tiptoe over to her desk, 
retrieve her forgotten bag of HP notes, and slip back out. There's no 
reason for anyone to be here on a holiday, but you never know what 
Miss might be up to, or if Kneasy has come in for a bit of quiet 
relection and inebriation.

She's half way across the room when she's startled by loud banging 
coming from the brokendown Section machine. "Who's there!" she yells.

"Don't shoot!" Ginger's voice calls out and she stands up, waving a 
spanner. (Potioncat doesn't know what a spanner is but someone used 
it in a post and it sounds very British.)

"What are you doing here?" they both ask.

"I'm fixing this brokendown Section Machine. What good is it to have 
two machines if one of them is brokendown?"

"This is a holiday!"

"Yes, but I'm Management now. And Management Level Individuals often 
work on holidays. It's one of the perks."

"That's what Miss told you, isn't it?" Potioncat asked, knowingly.

"Yes it is. So, have you come in for your assignment? Very good! I'll 
be sure this is mentioned on your next evaluation. For non-management 
types to be working on holiday looks very good!"

"No, actually, I just came in for some notes...I have teenagers you 
know, couldn't possibly work on a holiday..."

Ginger frowns and Potioncat decides to change the subject. "What did 
you think of that great event in chapter____________ and 
then_______________________but the ___________and..." Potioncat pauses

Ginger is really frowning now."Good, our anti-spoiler spells are 
working. Unfortunately this must go on your next evaluation as 
well...Now, which section did you want?"

"Uh, I'll take Magical Items 3.8.6--3.8.6.9, if no one else has 
it...but I can't start right away. Teenagers, you know..."









From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Mon Jul 25 14:29:33 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:29:33 -0000
Subject: us all on the same page
In-Reply-To: <dc2l2b+e83p@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dc2t0d+bbln@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "potioncat" 
<willsonkmom at m...> wrote:
> 
> Potioncat slips her key into the lock and carefully opens the 
> catalogue office door. She's hoping to tiptoe over to her desk, 
> retrieve her forgotten bag of HP notes, and slip back out. There's 
no reason for anyone to be here on a holiday, but you never know what 
> Miss might be up to, or if Kneasy has come in for a bit of quiet 
> relection and inebriation.

Little do the cataloguers know, but the whole building is now 
protected by surveillance cameras, which beam into a wall of monitors 
back at HQ. Not a mouse can stir without herself knowing...let alone 
a boozer lifting a couple of bottles from office supplies.

> 
> She's half way across the room when she's startled by loud banging 
> coming from the brokendown Section machine. "Who's there!" she 
yells.
> 
> "Don't shoot!" Ginger's voice calls out and she stands up, waving a 
> spanner. (Potioncat doesn't know what a spanner is but someone used 
> it in a post and it sounds very British.)

Hah..sabotage, someone's putting a spanner in the works are 
they...just as I suspected. You've been caught on CCTV.

> 
> "What are you doing here?" they both ask.
> 
> "I'm fixing this brokendown Section Machine. What good is it to 
have two machines if one of them is brokendown?"
> 
> "This is a holiday!"
> 
> "Yes, but I'm Management now. And Management Level Individuals 
often work on holidays. It's one of the perks."
> 
> "That's what Miss told you, isn't it?" Potioncat asked, knowingly.

Miss makes a little note on Potioncat's file: 'Attitude. Further 
training required.' The leg irons, looped together like sinister 
paperchains, clink in the chill damp breeze that blows through HQ 
(British summer has reverted to type after a brief episode of global 
warming).

But Ginger is showing exceptional initiative and is clearly ready to 
take over complete responsibility for the Section machines. Given 
that my instructions consisted of a vague 'I'll be seeing y'all' some 
weeks ago, I am astounded...

Can it be that HBP will not distract us for months? Damn, er, I mean, 
that's fantastic, you mean I have to concentrate on this as well? 
Just after I completed my second re-read and am scrambling to both 
earn a living and duck crucio's from expectant posters who are 
waiting for me to respond to their sparkling thoughts?

> 
> "Yes it is. So, have you come in for your assignment? Very good! 
I'll be sure this is mentioned on your next evaluation. For non-
management types to be working on holiday looks very good!"
> 
> "No, actually, I just came in for some notes...I have teenagers you 
> know, couldn't possibly work on a holiday..."
> 
> Ginger frowns and Potioncat decides to change the subject. "What 
did you think of that great event in chapter____________ and 
then_______________________but the ___________and..." Potioncat pauses
> 
> Ginger is really frowning now.


Ginger, alas I must break it to you that *certain cataloguers* regard 
RL as more important. Despite many attempts at memory modification, 
they persist in visiting their friends, ferrying their children 
about, shopping, boozing and generally farting about in a carefree 
way oblivious of their cataloguing tasks. Anyone would think our work 
Did Not Matter.

Miss Havisham tries not to think of the 500 posts per minute going up 
on main, and the impossibility of ever taming the beast..


"Good, our anti-spoiler spells are 
> working. Unfortunately this must go on your next evaluation as 
> well...Now, which section did you want?"
> 
> "Uh, I'll take Magical Items 3.8.6--3.8.6.9, if no one else has 
> it...but I can't start right away. Teenagers, you know..."

Those were all Laurasia's at one point, but I think you are fairly 
safe in taking them over - can you be sure to mark both review 
lists  -? Also, do remember that 3.8.6.10 Sorting Hat has been added 
to the section, but that Kelly has already reviewed it (I think).

Ginger..I would be so grateful if you could get the two lists 
aligned, it's one less task for me. Post any discrepancies, and I'm 
sure we can sort them out.

A tired Miss H.







From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Mon Jul 25 14:31:48 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:31:48 -0000
Subject: From Kelly re post 3.16.0
Message-ID: <dc2t4k+3ahm@eGroups.com>

Please note, she is still at sea and has not seen HBP..

3.16.0 Hogwarts-General
-----------------------
Originally: 83
Now: 18

Includes anything about Hogwarts that doesn't fit into any other 
category, including (so far) reasons for founding the school, role of 
the Board of Governors, the school song, Hogwarts traditions, future 
of the school in the wake of VWII, and inherent magical ability of 
Hogwarts itself.

Many posts were relocated to new homes within the 3.16 subcategories; 
many more would have been moved there had I not already read dozens 
of similar posts while reviewing those subcategories.

Some posts were coded here to indicate a Hogwarts subset of a 
different category, for example, class system, racism, and bigotry at 
Hogwarts.  I think we should stay away from this, since it leads to a 
very unfocused 3.16.0.  It should be pretty simple for users of the 
catalogue to go into the class system category (or whatever) and 
search or browse for Hogwarts references.

-Kelly






From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 26 13:10:59 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (Ginger)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 06:10:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Re: us all on the same page
In-Reply-To: <dc2t0d+bbln@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050726131059.17948.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


> She's half way across the room when she's startled by loud banging 
> coming from the brokendown Section machine. "Who's there!" she 
yells.
> 
> "Don't shoot!" Ginger's voice calls out and she stands up, waving a 
> spanner. (Potioncat doesn't know what a spanner is but someone used 
> it in a post and it sounds very British.)

Hah..sabotage, someone's putting a spanner in the works are 
they...just as I suspected. You've been caught on CCTV.

> 
> "What are you doing here?" they both ask.
> 
> "I'm fixing this brokendown Section Machine. What good is it to 
have two machines if one of them is brokendown?"
> 
> "This is a holiday!"
> 
> "Yes, but I'm Management now. And Management Level Individuals 
often work on holidays. It's one of the perks."
> 
> "That's what Miss told you, isn't it?" Potioncat asked, knowingly.

But Ginger is showing exceptional initiative and is clearly ready to 
take over complete responsibility for the Section machines. Given 
that my instructions consisted of a vague 'I'll be seeing y'all' some 
weeks ago, I am astounded...

Can it be that HBP will not distract us for months? Damn, er, I mean, 
that's fantastic, you mean I have to concentrate on this as well? 
Just after I completed my second re-read and am scrambling to both 
earn a living and duck crucio's from expectant posters who are 
waiting for me to respond to their sparkling thoughts?

Ginger, alas I must break it to you that *certain cataloguers* regard 
RL as more important. Despite many attempts at memory modification, 
they persist in visiting their friends, ferrying their children 
about, shopping, boozing and generally farting about in a carefree 
way oblivious of their cataloguing tasks. Anyone would think our work 
Did Not Matter.

Miss Havisham tries not to think of the 500 posts per minute going up 
on main, and the impossibility of ever taming the beast..


Ginger..I would be so grateful if you could get the two lists 
aligned, it's one less task for me. Post any discrepancies, and I'm 
sure we can sort them out.

A tired Miss H.

Ginger, confused responds to the above:

I wasn't trying to hurry any one back, I just thought that since I was here, and had time, I'd kind of sort a few things out.  

Um, I'm management?  I thought I weaseled out of that one by pointing out the management has to think. 

Secretarial stuff, on the other hand, now that I can do.  I'll reallign the databases this weekend.  I'm doggiesitting at my parents' with high speed internet.  So I have 2 whole days by myself with a computer that goes from one page to another without a waiting period long enough to pluck a chicken.  

Um, are they posting on the main list now?  More than usual?  Wow, I hadn't noticed.  I just assumed that I was reading slower.  At one time I was 700 posts behind.  Now I bet it's only 200.  

One more thing:  I have no idea what a spanner is, so if there's one in here and it's a bad thing, blame Potioncat.  It was she who brought it up.

In the meantime, I'll take magical travel.  3.10 to 3.10.8.

Ginger, who has no children, no love intrest, no life and no money to go out and do fun things.  Yes, folks, this is my life, my love, and my passion.  


		
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From spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 26 23:40:40 2005
From: spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com (dungrollin)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 23:40:40 -0000
Subject: us all on the same page
In-Reply-To: <dc2iuu+adei@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dc6hlo+6ufh@eGroups.com>

The cataloguing office is silent and dark. Suddenly, green flames 
erupt in the fireplace. Something in the centre of the blaze is 
spinning very fast. It slows, then stops spinning altogether and 
drifts dreamily out into the room. It is a paper aeroplane. It winds 
its way through the still air towards Ginger's desk, where it lands.

There is something written on the paper:

Ginger wrote:
> Ok, I looked at what is left for sections in the database that has 
> all sections listed, and then I cross-referrenced with the 
databases that have them broken down.

> 3.04-3.7.8.1
> WW health/Physiology/bloodlines/inheritance/Quidditch/culture& 
media Unsigned on both except that Dot is down for squibs on the 
brokendown  list.
> 
Dot: Yep, Squibs is done, though I may not have marked it as such 
anywhere because it's moved category (think it used to be a subset 
of magical ability), and I haven't finished the rest of its original 
category. Yet. But I will. *Honestly*.







From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 27 12:01:40 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (Ginger)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 05:01:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Re: us all on the same page
In-Reply-To: <dc6hlo+6ufh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050727120140.35264.qmail@web30202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


Ginger wrote:
> Ok, I looked at what is left for sections in the database that has 
> all sections listed, and then I cross-referrenced with the 
databases that have them broken down.

> 3.04-3.7.8.1
> WW health/Physiology/bloodlines/inheritance/Quidditch/culture& 
media Unsigned on both except that Dot is down for squibs on the 
brokendown  list.
> 
Dot: Yep, Squibs is done, though I may not have marked it as such 
anywhere because it's moved category (think it used to be a subset 
of magical ability), and I haven't finished the rest of its original 
category. Yet. But I will. *Honestly*.


Ginger smiles happily.  That's one mystery cleared up.  It will be noted.  Thank you for your prompt response.  Enjoy the rest of your cataloguing holiday.

Ginger, fighting with her e-mail today for some reason.






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