From Kelly re sections 3.16.4.1 & 3.8.6.10

carolynwhite2 carolynwhite2 at aol.com
Mon Jul 11 17:15:13 UTC 2005


I finished with 3.16.4.1.  My review is below, and I'm attaching the 
spreadsheet with my results.  I rejected 50% of the posts there due 
to some repetition and a lot of passing mention (of sorting, the hat, 
houses, Hogwarts, almost anything really) and moved 18% of the posts 
to new homes within my review categories.

Thanks again, and very glad to hear you're okay after the bombings.  
The list is my only current London connection, so I thought of you 
guys immediately.  Thoughts and prayers to all of you.

-Kelly

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3.16.4.1 Sorting Process
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Previous: 346
Now: 109 (63 moved, 174 rejected)

This category should be used only to discuss the actual sorting 
process itself.  What factors influence the sorting (personality, 
choice, family, potential)?  Does it help or hurt the students to be 
labeled so early?  Why were certain controversial house placements 
made (predominately Hermione, Neville, and Percy)?

Since 3.16.4 School Houses was only recently created, it seems that 
many cataloguers were using 3.16.4.1 to hold posts that discussed, 
compared, contrasted, etc. the four houses or discussed the house 
system in general. Now that we have the new category, I don't think 
this will be a problem anymore.  The vast majority of the 63 posts I 
moved now reside in 3.16.4.

Above, I mentioned that controversial sortings can be included in 
this category.  However, only use it if the post is discussing the 
sorting process itself.  If the post just discusses why a character 
is/isn't/might have been in one or more houses, use either 3.16.4 
School Houses (if multiple houses are discussed) or 3.16.4.[6/7/8/9] 
Slytherin/Gryffindor/Hufflepuff/Ravenclaw (if only one or two houses 
are mentioned).  Consider the following posts (ignoring the fact the 
both of these examples would be rejected as Adds Nothing New):

1) "I think Hermione should have been in Ravenclaw.  She's obviously 
the smartest student in her year, and the Sorting Hat stated that 
Ravenclaw is the house for intelligent students.  She has 
demonstrated bravery in the books, but her intelligence still seems 
to be her predominant personality trait."

2) "I think Hermione was placed in Gryffindor rather than Ravenclaw 
because, despite her obvious intelligence, she feels bravery is a 
more important characteristic and values this over book smarts.  
Sorting weights this preference over the more easily noticed 
characteristic."

Post 1 would not be included in 3.16.4.1 because it is only 
discussing the characteristics of Hermione, Ravenclaw, and  
Gryffindor.  However, post 2 does belong in 3.16.4.1 because it is 
discussing the nature of the sorting process as it applies to 
Hermione and the houses.

I'll be reviewing the Sorting Hat category next.  I expect a large 
number of posts from that category to move to this one.

-Kelly 
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One more finished, with a 77.9% reduction in size.  I'm getting 
better at category decimation, don't you think?

3.8.6.10 Sorting Hat
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Originally: 145
Now: 32 (19 moved, 91 rejected, 3 questionable)

This category should be used when discussing all aspects of the Hat 
EXCEPT how it makes its sorting decisions (those belong in 3.16.4.1 
Sorting process).  Note that this doesn't mean the two categories are 
mutually exclusive; a post that discusses theories of where the 
Sorting Hat derives its wisdom and how this influences its decisions 
would require both categories.  However, sorting process posts almost 
always mention the Hat in passing without really discussing the Hat, 
only its decisions; try to keep these out of 3.8.6.10.  Most of the 
posts I rejected were of this nature, and were double-coded to both 
3.16.4.1 and 3.8.6.10.

Also, I came across three posts that discussed the school song, but 
were coded only here.  I would like to remove the 3.8.6.10 code, 
since the posts didn't discuss the Hat at all, but that would leave 
the posts as complete rejects.  Does anyone have any suggestions as 
to where they might belong? Have you seen any other posts discussing 
the song?

-Kelly 








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