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[Talisman]

Sean, in the throes of Erato:

>by a contributor (after the style of don marquis) :

>oh oh oh oh Snape
>i yearn for you tragically
>though you're fictional
>and possibly morbid
>it is no impediment
>no one will notice
>if we keep the lights off
>that's better




Talisman, in the throes of something, offers:

In Response

Clever penguin, vessel of a muse,  
Marquis cannot touch you.

Jest as you like: "it is no impediment."  
Love conquers, or better yet, Desire
transcends all Farce by being (as it happens)
its own reward.

I'll duct tape this to my heart.



>--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, Sean Dwyer <ewe2 at a...> 
wrote:
> JKR insists on the word "bracingly". It's consistent enough to be
>worth a drinking-game. Any other words that jump out for anyone?

Anne hears "drinking game" and leaps to the fore: 

>It's mostly phrases for me -- "More ____ than ever (before)." Also 
related:
>"It was pain such as Harry never felt before." "His head was 
(surely) splitting along his >scar."  Snarled (originally most often 
to be seen with Snape; now everyone's
>getting into the act) ~Anne

Talisman sidles up to the table, and seeing as there's plenty left 
in the bottle:

Shots for everyone.  Though irksome, I've taken all 
those "______than evers," as a means of expressing Harry's 
adolescent perception. Hopefully they'll slow down as he grows up. 
And soon. 

How about grim/grimly? That'll get you snookered pretty quick.  
She'll also go in for spells where everything is muttered.  Probably 
grimly. As an aside, I like it when Snape snaps. Cheap, but there 
you are.


Potioncat, re: Timelines/Significant Dates section 1.2.9.1.1:

>There are a number of posts about Halloween and the many things that
>happen on different Halloweens (inclucing the conception of the Boy
>Wonder) I was thinking of moving those to Festivals and Religion
>3.7.6.

Talisman:
I think recurrent Halloween events stand out sufficiently to warrant 
a titular category, somewhere, probably under your Timelines 
heading.  I'm wondering if other Festivals  (Feast of Walpurga, 
etc.?) wouldn't fair better by being excised from Religion, per se,  
and moved here, either to their own level 2 headings, or to a "Other 
Festivals and Holidays" catchall, depending on importance.

Potioncat:
>There are a few posts about frequent use of specific days of the 
>week and why JKR does that, which I think should be moved to 
>narrative style 1.2.6.

Talisman: I don't agree that this should go to Narrative Style.  To 
the extent that Rowling is exploiting any 
connotations/superstitions/ mythological links, etc. with specific 
days of the week, this should be treated as symbolism, preferably 
with it's own section: Days of the Week, but I see it aptly cross-
referenced with timeline considerations.

(If we were discussing how Rowling's use of symbolism impacts the 
works/the experience of reading them, that would go to narrative 
style.)


Ginger, whacking back the Chapter shrubbery:
>Many kept ones [Yule Ball posts] were not coded to chapter. Would 
>you like me to go >back and code some of the kept ones to the 
>chapters? I  took notes, so it wouldn't take >me long.

Talisman: This sounds like a fair exchange to me.


Carolyn explained, in post #1401 RE: New definitions files

>I was rather hoping that Yahoo had a file format that everyone could
>edit, so you could add your own contributions, but it seems not so
>I suppose I will have to keep them up to date each week. <snip> 
Eventually I could >transfer a shortened version into the DB itself 
<snip>.

Talisman, later:
>May I suggest that we set up a database wherein the people (each of 
>us) who have reviewed a given category, received feedback, and 
>arrived at a
> clarified definition can post this information in one comprehensive
> document? Then, if we continue to fill in definitions as we finish
> categories, the master list will be updated and we won't have to
> search back through posts (or say eff it).

Kelly, in response:
>Along the same lines, I reference the little descriptions in the
>catalogue itself ([d]) much more often than the lists in the Files
>section. Could these be updated as each category gets reviewed?

Talisman, now:
Heaven knows I defer completely to Paul and others Carolyn, Sean?) 
regarding what is possible with Yahoo.  But my hope was to have 
something _concise_, handy, and not labor intensive for one or two 
people (e.g. Carolyn & Paul).

Carolyn, I think your new files TO DATE (collecting the discussions) 
could help people prepare their current consolidated definitions 
(which could also receive further feed back) but that 1) re-reading 
the discussions while in the process of coding would be very 
difficult; 2)It's, hopefully, an unneccesay job for you to keep 
gathering these.  

Just from the example of the Database wherein we all "edited" to 
claim a review section and then to note completion thereof, I 
thought we could have one, organized by category/number that each of 
us could "edit" to supply the new consensus definition.  This isn't 
possible?

I agree, Kelly, these definitions should ultimately go into the 
happy little "d" into the actual catalogue. (But, because this 
requires accessing at a sensitive level, it's not something I think 
all of us should be doing). 

So, because we are "in process;" there may be some definitions that 
haven't gelled; and, Carolyn and Paul have plenty on their plates, I 
thought that an interim--member edited-- database might be helpful. 
Still no?

Talisman