Choc.. and more choc, wow...

[carolynwhite2]

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, Ginger <quigonginger at y...> 
wrote:
> 
> Ginger,cowering in fear:
> Um, I never signed up for a debate with Talisman, but if the 
vocabulary is limited to a primary school spelling book, I'll have a 
go at it.  If it gets over my head, I start filking.  You have been 
warned.

Carolyn:
Heh! That's the spirit... you could distract her by lobbing in a bit 
of OBHWF if things get really tough.

I *thought* I understood time travel before the debates started, but 
after reading some of them, I realised I didn't. At all. Therefore, I 
look on respectfully, especially when people start drawing lines to 
explain it (apart from anything else, they don't come out too well on 
this apology for an interface that Yah offers us).


> 
> Ginger:  As I understand it, the main problem LL has is that JKR 
said that DD is the "epitome of goodness" and LL can't imagine anyone 
that good leaving Harry to be so miserable.  I'm nowhere near the 
epitome of goodness, but I felt bad for Harry there too.  Considering 
the option was death, I wouldn't have moved Harry either, but that 
doesn't fly with those who won't stand for an unhappy child, or 
realize that sometimes the greater good does require sacrifices, even 
from a child.

Carolyn:
Well, as I've pointed out in a back post somewhere in here, that 
quote isn't so cut and dried in it's meaning. JKR could have meant 
that DD is only supposed to be the 'epitome of goodness' within the 
context of the Potterverse, and who knows what that's supposed to 
mean.

Also, as has been repeatedly pointed out, Harry wasn't as miserable 
as all that. Yes, it was boring and he'd do anything to get out from 
the Dursleys, but he wasn't afraid of them - just despised them.

And as far as children suffering goes, it's perfectly obvious from 
everything the kids have to endure at Hogwarts that the WW seems to 
have somewhat more robust ideas about what constitutes unhappiness 
and physical danger than RL. 

Then there is the caustic Brit humour underpinning it all.. 


> Ginger:
> I really wanted to throw in that corporal punishment in the homes 
and schools really needs to make a comeback and soon, but I'd have 
been "trolling" on that one, so I decided not to make trouble.  > 

Carolyn:
Mm.. I saw your post about the kids you had to deal with at work! 
Some of the same little darlings slashed all the tyres in our road a 
month or two back, and broke a row of newly planted saplings.

I don't know what the answer is. I always force myself to remember 
what it was like to be a child/teenager. Corporal punishment probably 
wouldn't have stopped me; frightened me maybe, but also made me more 
defiant I expect, and even wilder than I already was.


Sean:
BTW, still no broadband, so chuck me another wad of
posts, may as well do something while I wait!

Carolyn:
Potioncat just mentioned she wouldn't get to her allocation for a 
while, would you like to go back and pick up that group for her? It's 
42701-42800.