From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Tue Nov  1 22:02:05 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 22:02:05 -0000
Subject: What to do..the way forward??
Message-ID: <dk8okt+hhef@eGroups.com>

Hiya

Sorry I have neglected the catalogue. I am up to wherever with this new 
job I have misguidedly taken on, and just have not had the time 
recently .. as with you all, no doubt.

I'd really hate for all our work to be wasted, and assuming that Tim 
and Paul can build us our interface (I think they can), I do hope to do 
a massive chunk of it later in the month and over Xmas.

However, do any of you have any other ideas as to the way forward? A 
lot of people have dropped out altogether, but there is still a core of 
7-8 of us working on the project. I'll carry on if you will!

Any thoughts?

Carolyn








From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  1 23:19:27 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (Ginger)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 15:19:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] What to do..the way forward??
In-Reply-To: <dk8okt+hhef@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20051101231927.45624.qmail@web30203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



carolynwhite2 <carolynwhite2 at aol.com> wrote:
However, do any of you have any other ideas as to the way forward? A 
lot of people have dropped out altogether, but there is still a core of 
7-8 of us working on the project. I'll carry on if you will!


Ginger says:

I'm with you.  Craving your indulgance for this week.  Long before HP, I was a Star Wars fan.  Long, long before that, I was a Beatles fan.  (Which means you Brits win 2-1.)

 

This weekend, I went to Omaha and saw Paul McCartney in concert, and today the final Star Wars was released on DVD.  So between the 3 days spent travelling and being in Omaha, and the almost 3 days spent trying to figure out how the hell to hook up a DVD player, I have been a very poor example of a dedicated HP fan.

 

I am still working on my set, and have completed 23 sections, with 7 left.  I intend to return to my duties this weekend and will hopefully have it finished in a week or two.

 

Onward and, well, further on.

 

I have no idea about the techie stuff.  I'll leave that to those with knowledge.  

 

So basicly, I'm just full of excuses and moral support.  Hope they cancel each other out.

Ginger, still bawling over Padme's death.


		
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From willsonkmom at msn.com  Wed Nov  2 04:14:58 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 04:14:58 -0000
Subject: What to do..the way forward??
In-Reply-To: <dk8okt+hhef@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dk9eg2+989d@eGroups.com>


> Hiya
> 
> Sorry I have neglected the catalogue. I am up to wherever with this 
new 
> job I have misguidedly taken on, and just have not had the time 
> recently .. as with you all, no doubt.


Potioncat breathes a sigh of relief...so that's why Miss H. hadn't 
noticed! Potioncat's "slow and steady" rate of review had slipped to 
just plain slow...or actually...less than slow. Real life has made a 
dent in the HP life...well, that and a HBP chapter discussion.

You know, I think when we get these final few sections completed; get 
the catalogue up and running; and hear the customer comments...we'll 
all say, "Why the Hell did we do this!" No, No, I mean, we'll all 
say, "Let's get the rest done! Onward!"

I think the catalogue will generate some good essays. We're already 
discussing OoP again. And CoS is popping up in the horcrux hunt so 
I'm sure the discerning reader will make use of this new tool.

There's some new blood in the membership.  We'll recuit some more 
folk. Seven isn't enough to take on the next big batch of posts, but 
it is enough to finish the batch we have now. So, remember these 
inspiring words:

Go out there and win one for the Kipper...I mean Gipper!...

Damn the torpedoes...

Don't touch that dial...

Just shove a bezoar down their throats...













From ewetoo at gmail.com  Wed Nov  2 05:24:43 2005
From: ewetoo at gmail.com (ewe2)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 16:24:43 +1100
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] What to do..the way forward??
In-Reply-To: <dk8okt+hhef@eGroups.com>
References: <dk8okt+hhef@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20051102052443.GA10095@4dot0.net>

On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 10:02:05PM -0000, Carolyn White wrote:

> I'd really hate for all our work to be wasted, and assuming that Tim 
> and Paul can build us our interface (I think they can), I do hope to do 
> a massive chunk of it later in the month and over Xmas.
> 
> However, do any of you have any other ideas as to the way forward? A 
> lot of people have dropped out altogether, but there is still a core of 
> 7-8 of us working on the project. I'll carry on if you will!

Boy am I glad you said this. RL has been occupying me lately because I'm STILL
trying to find a new home and never know from one week to the next whether my
internet stays or goes. But I am determined to have some sort of internet
access whatever my circumstances and just as determined to stay the course.

I know the review process has been slow and probably flawed but no less
valuable. I haven't had much to contribute, but there's been real progress
over the last months, so I've been able to be patient about continuing the
coding. Even if RL has intruded, the catalogue is a lot cleaner now than when
we stopped for #6.

I think we need to take stock, get an overview to see what the review has
changed and what changes are going to be required from canon going forward. I
think there is such a thing as too much revision however, as we are trying to
resemble some sort of historical response with the catalogue, and I for one
don't want to go over the same ground because the later books changed a lot of
things.

Just my 2 knuts.

PS I am insanely jealous of Ginger for seeing Macca. I keep trying to find
video of him playing Blackbird so I can work out the chords!

ewe2, melting from the early summer humidity but with trusty beer in hand to
stave off heat exhaustion.

-- 
Just because we look like sheep doesn't mean we aren't penguins.



From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  2 07:48:21 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (Ginger)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 23:48:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sir Paul
In-Reply-To: <20051102052443.GA10095@4dot0.net>
Message-ID: <20051102074821.50122.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com>




PS I am insanely jealous of Ginger for seeing Macca. I keep trying to find
video of him playing Blackbird so I can work out the chords!

ewe2, melting from the early summer humidity but with trusty beer in hand to
stave off heat exhaustion.


Ginger:

He did play Blackbird (which I have always liked) but I didn't see his hands.  We were up 2 escalaters and a very steep flight of steps and in the corner of the top row.  The usher told us ours were among the last tickets sold, which should give you some idea of what the seats were like.  No matter, though, we brought binocs and there was a big screen.  Still, it was a thrill to look on him with my own eyes.

 

I'm afraid I can't help you with the chords.  The guitar is the one instrument I have never been able to comprehend.  I can't play the oboe without it sounding like a wounded goose, but I can at least understand the fingerings.  Guitar is like reading Chinese.  Like Paul, I am a lefty, but I never had mind restrung, I just tried to play it like a righty.  I finally sold the darn thing after learning only Proud Mary after 3 months of consistant effort.  And it still didn't sound good.

 

But enough of this- back to work.

Ginger, All You Need Is Valium  


		
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From spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com  Wed Nov  2 12:12:26 2005
From: spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com (dungrollin)
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 12:12:26 -0000
Subject: What to do..the way forward??
In-Reply-To: <20051102052443.GA10095@4dot0.net>
Message-ID: <dkaafa+p5dr@eGroups.com>

Carolyn wrote:
> 
> > I'd really hate for all our work to be wasted, and assuming that 
Tim and Paul can build us our interface (I think they can), I do 
hope to do a massive chunk of it later in the month and over Xmas.
> > 
> > However, do any of you have any other ideas as to the way 
forward? A lot of people have dropped out altogether, but there is 
still a core of 7-8 of us working on the project. I'll carry on if 
you will!
> 

Sean:
> Boy am I glad you said this. RL has been occupying me lately 
because I'm STILL trying to find a new home and never know from one 
week to the next whether my internet stays or goes. But I am 
determined to have some sort of internet access whatever my 
circumstances and just as determined to stay the course.
> 

Dot:
Adding my excuses to those of others. I'm still intending to be 
useful, though slow. My lack of progress is mostly due to being bone 
idle, and the recent discovery of Bruce Mathiske (a much better 
guitarist than Macca) has distracted me from HP stuff, and re-routed 
most of my spare time towards playing the clarinet again and 
arranging some duos of pieces I like. 

My problem is that I need a good kicking to get anything done. 
Sorry. I haven't been reading the main list, so I can't even suggest 
new recruits. I'm determined to finish the review section I'm on, 
and although I doubt I'll ever be a major contributer to this 
catalogue, I won't be abandoning ship.

Dot "knackered-reed" Newman
who never suspected that Ginger played the oboe, and wishes Sean the 
best of luck with chords and houses and internet accesses.







From stevejjen at earthlink.net  Wed Nov  2 16:35:57 2005
From: stevejjen at earthlink.net (Jen Reese)
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 16:35:57 -0000
Subject: What to do..the way forward??
In-Reply-To: <dk8okt+hhef@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dkaptd+78lg@eGroups.com>

CW:
> I'd really hate for all our work to be wasted, and assuming that Tim 
> and Paul can build us our interface (I think they can), I do hope to 
do a massive chunk of it later in the month and over Xmas.
> 
> However, do any of you have any other ideas as to the way forward? A 
> lot of people have dropped out altogether, but there is still a core 
of 
> 7-8 of us working on the project. I'll carry on if you will!
> 
> Any thoughts?


Jen: I'm still plugging away on two review categories and really want 
to see the catalogue happen after all of our combined efforts, and 
especially your time and energy, Carolyn. You deserve to see this 
thing launch and it sounds like a few of us diehards will stick in 
there with you!

I'm thinking if we can get the reviews done by the end of the year, 
then we can recruit new blood for the coding process. That's a much 
easier task and people will be more likely to hang around for it, I 
think. I hope. :)

Jen, stuck to her DVD along with Ginger, after the release of The 
Revenge of the Sith DVD yesterday. 






From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Wed Nov  2 17:20:03 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 17:20:03 -0000
Subject: What to do..the way forward??
In-Reply-To: <dkaptd+78lg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dkasg3+4o1a@eGroups.com>


Eh, bless you one and all - thanks for all the responses! We'll carry 
on then to the bitter end, or the next stage anyway.

And I am pleased to report I had a 'yesssssss' moment today. No not 
what you think (sadly), but I finally cracked a very appalling 
subject/content organising problem that I have been circling around for 
weeks. A bit like the initial workout I had to do of the subjects for 
this catalogue, but, um, a bit worse...

The jobs I get involved in. I need my head examined.

C






From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  2 17:53:18 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (Ginger)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 09:53:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Re: What to do..the way forward??
In-Reply-To: <dkaafa+p5dr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20051102175318.57042.qmail@web30203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>





Dot "knackered-reed" Newman
who never suspected that Ginger played the oboe, and wishes Sean the 
best of luck with chords and houses and internet accesses.

Ginger:

Just to set the record straight, I don't play the oboe.  I have a degree (unused) in music, and during the course of my education, I learned to play flute, clarinet, sax, trumpet, baritone, tuba(!), French horn, and attempted oboe (plus the trombone, which is actually the instrument I grew up playing) for the purposes of being able to teach them.  I got proficient enough on all (save the oboe) that I could play pretty much anything a beginning band student would need to.  Of course, that was 10 years ago.  I now only remember the trombone.  

 

Ditto wishing Sean luck.

Ginger, who was actually a voice major.


		
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From annemehr at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  3 02:50:47 2005
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 02:50:47 -0000
Subject: What to do..the way forward??
In-Reply-To: <dkaafa+p5dr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dkbtu7+nlco@eGroups.com>

 
> Dot:
> Adding my excuses to those of others. I'm still intending to be 
> useful, though slow. My lack of progress is mostly due to being bone 
> idle, and the recent discovery of Bruce Mathiske (a much better 
> guitarist than Macca) has distracted me from HP stuff, and re-routed 
> most of my spare time towards playing the clarinet again and 
> arranging some duos of pieces I like. 

Anne:
Hey!  I play clarinet, too.  In fact, I joined a symphonic band this
fall and we just had our first concert and one of our pieces was music
from HP and the conductor went on and *on* about how these books are
looked down upon as being just for kids but really they're going to be
classics...

Right.  Anyway, Carolyn, I'm in!

Anne
giving Dot a good kicking







From kakearney at gmail.com  Thu Nov  3 17:53:48 2005
From: kakearney at gmail.com (corinthum)
Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 17:53:48 -0000
Subject: What to do..the way forward??
In-Reply-To: <dkbtu7+nlco@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dkdirc+j8mb@eGroups.com>


Dot:
> > Adding my excuses to those of others. I'm still intending to be 
> > useful, though slow. My lack of progress is mostly due to being 
bone 
> > idle, and the recent discovery of Bruce Mathiske (a much better 
> > guitarist than Macca) has distracted me from HP stuff, and re-
routed 
> > most of my spare time towards playing the clarinet again and 
> > arranging some duos of pieces I like. 

Anne:
> Hey!  I play clarinet, too.  In fact, I joined a symphonic band this
> fall and we just had our first concert and one of our pieces was music
> from HP and the conductor went on and *on* about how these books are
> looked down upon as being just for kids but really they're going to be
> classics...

Trumpet myself.  That was one of my few possessions that made it 
through Katrina, since I had lent it to my younger brother for his All 
County concert.

Anyway, Carolyn, count me in as well.  I'm only on temporary leave, and 
I'm still checking in with this list even though I'm not reviewing at 
the moment.

-Kelly






From elfundeb at comcast.net  Thu Nov  3 20:29:10 2005
From: elfundeb at comcast.net (Debbie)
Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:29:10 -0000
Subject: What to do..the way forward??
In-Reply-To: <dkasg3+4o1a@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dkdrum+dsoq@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "carolynwhite2" 
<carolynwhite2 at a...> wrote:
>
> 
> Eh, bless you one and all - thanks for all the responses! We'll carry 
> on then to the bitter end, or the next stage anyway.

Count me in, too!  I'm nearly done with my current review category and 
am certain I can finish at least one more before the Christmas rush 
overwhelms me.

I'm thinking that when the first installment of the catalogue is 
unveiled, we might even get volunteers.  Even qualified ones.  (Or am I 
dreaming?) 

> The jobs I get involved in. I need my head examined.

Me too!  I momentarily poked my head into the bureaucracy this week 
(something I'm usually very successful at avoiding), and suddenly found 
myself considering when I could retire. ;-) 

Debbie
who can neither sing nor play a musical instrument and wondering 
whether that disqualifies her for catalogue work






From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  3 21:21:18 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (Ginger)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 13:21:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Harry Potter's Coding Stressed-Out Band
In-Reply-To: <dkdrum+dsoq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20051103212118.65823.qmail@web30213.mail.mud.yahoo.com>




(Debbie said:)  I momentarily poked my head into the bureaucracy this week 
(something I'm usually very successful at avoiding), and suddenly found 
myself considering when I could retire. ;-) 

Debbie
who can neither sing nor play a musical instrument and wondering 
whether that disqualifies her for catalogue work

Ginger:  Nonsense!  As of last count, we have one guitar-playing penguin (how does one manage with flippers?), 2 clarinetists, a trumpeteer, and a trombonist who can't play the oboe.  If you've been dealing with bureaucrats, you're probably ready to hit something, so we'll give you a drum and you can do it in rhythm, and Carolyn has been stressed out with work, so if she doesn't play something else, we'll give her a tambourine or something and she'll have something to hit as well.  All we need now is bagpipes.  
Ginger, who apologizes if she has missed someone.  I seem to remember someone mentioning playing the flute, but I'm not sure if that was here or not.

We're Harry Potter's Coding Stressed-Out Band.

We hope you will enjoy the show.


		
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From willsonkmom at msn.com  Thu Nov  3 21:50:32 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (Kathy Willson)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 16:50:32 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Harry Potter's Coding Stressed-Out Band
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  We're Harry Potter's Coding Stressed-Out Band.
    Potioncat here. I love it! Stressed-out is a very good description of my life right now....only I don't sing or play instruments either. Find me something in the percussion group, please.



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From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Fri Nov  4 08:41:55 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (Ginger)
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 00:41:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Harry Potter's Coding Stressed-Out Band
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-DAV10DD979D1006D934571D07AD610@phx.gbl>
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Potioncat here. I love it! Stressed-out is a very good description of my life right now....only I don't sing or play instruments either. Find me something in the percussion group, please.

 

Ginger:  All right, then. You can have claves.  (Wood blocks- pronounced CLAH-vase).  Just hit them together.  They make the sound that knocking kids' heads together makes, so you'll feel right at home.




		
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From ewetoo at gmail.com  Sun Nov  6 20:34:42 2005
From: ewetoo at gmail.com (ewe2)
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 07:34:42 +1100
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Harry Potter's Coding Stressed-Out Band
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On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 03:05:30PM +1100, ewe2 wrote:

Reposting again, trying to understand how Yahoo can ignore my posts for THREE
days now.

> On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 01:21:18PM -0800, Ginger wrote:
> Debbie
> who can neither sing nor play a musical instrument and wondering
> whether that disqualifies her for catalogue work
>
 
> Ginger:  Nonsense!  As of last count, we have one guitar-playing penguin
> (how does one manage with flippers?)
 
I protest: I am a multi-instrumentalist. I can play the bass guitar,
accoustic/electric guitars, keyboards (ivory and synthesized), drums,
recorder, other assorted percussion (I was xylophonist in the school
orchestra), viola, and I once knew how to play the euphonium (that's a small
tuba) in the key of C. My flippers are fairly adaptable.
 
> We're Harry Potter's Coding Stressed-Out Band.
>
> We hope you will enjoy the show.
 
Oh, I get by with a little Elf in my socks.

-- 
Just because we look like sheep doesn't mean we aren't penguins.



From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Sun Nov  6 21:09:25 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (Ginger)
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 13:09:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Harry Potter's Coding Stressed-Out Band
In-Reply-To: <20051106203442.GA1884@4dot0.net>
Message-ID: <20051106210925.76904.qmail@web30209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


> Ginger:  Nonsense!  As of last count, we have one guitar-playing penguin
> (how does one manage with flippers?)

I protest: I am a multi-instrumentalist. I can play the bass guitar,
accoustic/electric guitars, keyboards (ivory and synthesized), drums,
recorder, other assorted percussion (I was xylophonist in the school
orchestra), viola, and I once knew how to play the euphonium (that's a small
tuba) in the key of C. My flippers are fairly adaptable.


Ginger:

Ye Gods, with me on trombone (I also play piano and organ) we don't really need the euphonium, so we'll just keep you on guitar and if someone else pipes up and says "hey! I play guitar", then we'll put you on keyboards.

 

In the meantime, we'll just have to get together and pre-record the keyboard stuff in advance (unless we get someone to play live).  Want to come over to my house? 

 

We also need you on guitar so you can leap and dance around the stage and get the groupies going.  We need all the audience-appeal we can get. (Remember, we're an online group- go with your fantasies, which you may need to keep to yourself knowing you ;o))

 

Ginger, wondering what *would* you do if I sang out of tune, but remembering that we're online and going with *her* fantasies.


		
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From ewetoo at gmail.com  Mon Nov  7 03:33:07 2005
From: ewetoo at gmail.com (ewe2)
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:33:07 +1100
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Harry Potter's Coding Stressed-Out Band
In-Reply-To: <20051106210925.76904.qmail@web30209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20051106203442.GA1884@4dot0.net> <20051106210925.76904.qmail@web30209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051107033307.GA2916@4dot0.net>

On Sun, Nov 06, 2005 at 01:09:25PM -0800, Ginger wrote:

> Ye Gods, with me on trombone (I also play piano and organ) we don't really
> need the euphonium, so we'll just keep you on guitar and if someone else
> pipes up and says "hey! I play guitar", then we'll put you on keyboards.

I really hope so, I prefer bass. Keyboards are rusty though...

> In the meantime, we'll just have to get together and pre-record the keyboard
> stuff in advance (unless we get someone to play live).  Want to come over to
> my house? 

Will there be choccy cookies?

> We also need you on guitar so you can leap and dance around the stage and
> get the groupies going.  We need all the audience-appeal we can get.
> (Remember, we're an online group- go with your fantasies, which you may need
> to keep to yourself knowing you ;o))

Yeah, I'd stick with the online fantasy, the reality of my leaping around on
stage would require a reinforced stage for one thing...so in THIS reality I am
just incredibly chick-pulling cool, smirking over my bass and mouthing my
phone-number to the front row.

> Ginger, wondering what *would* you do if I sang out of tune, but remembering
> that we're online and going with *her* fantasies.

Depends on the song, I suppose. If it were a Beatles song, I'd have to shoot
you, but if it was a Rolling Stones song I'd probably smirk over my drink,
mouthihg my phone-number to the approaching angry neighbours with the
pitchforks and firebrands. Unless you've got a better idea :)
-- 
Just because we look like sheep doesn't mean we aren't penguins.



From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  7 08:10:46 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (Ginger)
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 00:10:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Harry Potter's Coding Stressed-Out Band
In-Reply-To: <20051107033307.GA2916@4dot0.net>
Message-ID: <20051107081046.55463.qmail@web30208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


G earlier: we'll just keep you on guitar and if someone else
> pipes up and says "hey! I play guitar", then we'll put you on keyboards.

S: I really hope so, I prefer bass. Keyboards are rusty though...


G now:  Bass it is, though we still need a guitarist for the Flamenco numbers.  And you must dance.

 

S:  in THIS reality I am
just incredibly chick-pulling cool, smirking over my bass and mouthing my
phone-number to the front row.

G:  Ladies and gentlemen, I have officially created a monster.  My work here is finished.  (In the monster-creating category, not the coding-still going on that.)

 

Ginger, cookies for everyone.

 


		
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From ewetoo at gmail.com  Mon Nov  7 08:59:13 2005
From: ewetoo at gmail.com (ewe2)
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 19:59:13 +1100
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Harry Potter's Coding Stressed-Out Band
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On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 12:10:46AM -0800, Ginger wrote:

> G now:  Bass it is, though we still need a guitarist for the Flamenco
> numbers.  And you must dance.

It will look remarkably like stomping. I fear this will ruin the Spanish
effect you are obviously after.

> G:  Ladies and gentlemen, I have officially created a monster.  My work here
> is finished.  (In the monster-creating category, not the coding-still going
> on that.)

Actually the monster is called Bill Wyman, who actually did that. And we all
know how *he* ended up...

> Ginger, cookies for everyone.

Yummy, all this typing with flippers does take it out of one. Shall I be
mother?

-- 
Just because we look like sheep doesn't mean we aren't penguins.



From stevejjen at earthlink.net  Tue Nov  8 15:42:03 2005
From: stevejjen at earthlink.net (Jen Reese)
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 15:42:03 -0000
Subject: Timeline for finishing reviews?
Message-ID: <dkqh0b+k1tr@eGroups.com>

Well, I only played the piano for three years a *long* time ago and 
the clarinet for about 6 months, so there's not much I can add to a 
band. Did anyone get the triangle yet? Oh, oh wait!  I've always 
wanted to be a doo-wop girl in the background--pretty please since 
this is a cyber band? I can wear leather and dance in virtual land.

Ahem, well back to business now *casts a severe eye around the joint 
where cobwebs are gathering and bottles stacking up from the endless 
happy hour*.

What do you think of the idea that we finish the reviewing by the end 
of the year, Miss Havisham, and then move forward coding in the new 
year? I need parameters, deadlines, timelines, etc. to get in the 
proper working spirit.

Doo-wop!Jen, in really cool stiletto-heeled boots she can't even look 
at without tripping in RL.







From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Tue Nov  8 21:20:28 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 21:20:28 -0000
Subject: Timeline for finishing reviews?
In-Reply-To: <dkqh0b+k1tr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dkr4qs+duqp@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "Jen Reese" <stevejjen at e...> 
wrote:

> 
> What do you think of the idea that we finish the reviewing by the end 
> of the year, Miss Havisham, and then move forward coding in the new 
> year? I need parameters, deadlines, timelines, etc. to get in the 
> proper working spirit.
> 
> Doo-wop!Jen, in really cool stiletto-heeled boots she can't even look 
> at without tripping in RL.
>

Miss Havisham pauses in her flit through cyberspace. The Man Upstairs 
appears to be in fine form, recounting unpleasant medical anecdotes to 
a trapped crowd in the old banqueting hall. The woodland temptress 
brandishing an axe pursues semantic literary grudges to the death 
(anything rather than finish Part III of the Macbeth mega theory). And 
the HH crowd carry on singing songs and drinking beer into the small 
hours.

But, what is this..a scuffling in the catalogue office? Must be a 
friend of Faith's judging by the boots. Miss H purses her lips. That 
floozy has a lot to answer for..

But a smile spreads across the wrinkled old crone's face. Hey, the 
management training has paid off! Whadya know! Someone asking for 
discipline, a work programme. Cor..

Brilliant idea, Able Seaman Jen. I'd blocked off a lot of time around 
Christmas to try and get my sections done. Also put a call out to the 
technical team to discover if there had been any action.

Let's try and work to end year deadline, I agree.

Carolyn






From spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com  Wed Nov  9 11:48:28 2005
From: spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com (dungrollin)
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 11:48:28 -0000
Subject: Timeline for finishing reviews?
In-Reply-To: <dkr4qs+duqp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dksnmc+8l3j@eGroups.com>

Anne:
giving Dot a good kicking

Dot:
Thanks Anne! (Guilt works surprisingly well too) ? I was hoping to 
be able to announce that I've finished my section, but alas there 
were 370-odd posts (or rather 370 odd posts) hiding in Magical 
Ability, so I can't yet.

Carolyn:
Brilliant idea, Able Seaman Jen. I'd blocked off a lot of time around
Christmas to try and get my sections done. Also put a call out to the
technical team to discover if there had been any action.

Let's try and work to end year deadline, I agree.

Dot:
I agree too. 

Got a couple of queries...

Could someone clarify the distinction between 1.2.8.9 Graveyard 
rebirth, 3.9.8 Voldy's rebodification/use of human ingredients, and 
the chapter codes for 32, 33 and 34 of GOF? 3.9.8 refers strictly to 
the potion Wormtail brews, but 1.2.8.9 and the chapter codes 
overlap, surely? Or has this been covered and I've forgotten?

Also, should posts 20352, 20430 and 20441 go under fantasy? Or have 
they already been rejected from there?

Dot
Who's nabbing the virtual bass clarinet, because she played a real 
one for a year, and now can't hear or see (or even think about) one 
without going misty-eyed and drooling.






From stevejjen at earthlink.net  Wed Nov  9 14:12:20 2005
From: stevejjen at earthlink.net (Jen Reese)
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 14:12:20 -0000
Subject: Timeline for finishing reviews?
In-Reply-To: <dksnmc+8l3j@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dkt044+gem6@eGroups.com>

> Dot:
> Could someone clarify the distinction between 1.2.8.9 Graveyard 
> rebirth, 3.9.8 Voldy's rebodification/use of human ingredients, and
> the chapter codes for 32, 33 and 34 of GOF? 3.9.8 refers strictly to 
> the potion Wormtail brews, but 1.2.8.9 and the chapter codes 
> overlap, surely? Or has this been covered and I've forgotten?

Jen: I'll give you my take because I coded and moved a bunch of posts 
that were languishing in the chapter categories.

1.2.8.9, Graveyard rebirth, is primarily for posts giving an overview 
of the event or discussing multiple parts of the rebirth covering 
several chapters. Specific events within the entire scene, such as 
Priori Incantatem or Voldemort giving Harry his wand back, are coded 
just to the chapter and any other appropriate category (such as Priori 
Incantatem).

The rebodification/use of human ingredients is for the potion like you 
said, and also I would code discussions of Voldemort's body here: the 
nature of the fetal body, how the potion altered his body, any 
strengths/weaknesses from using that particular potion. Any of these 
discussions can be cross-coded to the chapter 32 as well, especially 
if the post brings up other parts of the chapter such as Wormtail 
tying Harry up.

Jen, glad we have until the end of the year for this review thingy.






From dumbledad at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Nov  9 19:20:54 2005
From: dumbledad at yahoo.co.uk (Tim Regan)
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 11:20:54 -0800
Subject: UI progress report
Message-ID: <001c01c5e562$b5d7ed70$7f7e000a@europe.corp.microsoft.com>

Hi All,

I'm just leaving San Francisco and thought I'd drop you all a quick progress report on the UI.

I have a first version of the front-page, including search and browse working on my laptop and I'm currently working on the layout of the results pages. I'm hoping to have something up to show you all for comments in a few weeks time, but as always I've too much to do and too little time to do it all in. Thanks for your patience - we will get there and it will be a fabulous resource.

Cheers,

Tim / Dumbledad

PS San Francisco was great. The conference http://www.dux2005.org/ was in a lovely location and I got to meet Amy Z, Joy, and Petra for the first time face to face. All that and I saw Lemony Snicket! Fantastic :-)




From willsonkmom at msn.com  Wed Nov  9 21:53:05 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 21:53:05 -0000
Subject: UI progress report
In-Reply-To: <001c01c5e562$b5d7ed70$7f7e000a@europe.corp.microsoft.com>
Message-ID: <dktr41+ct2b@eGroups.com>

 
> Tim / Dumbledad
> 
> PS San Francisco was great. The conference http://www.dux2005.org/ 
was in a lovely location and I got to meet Amy Z, Joy, and Petra for 
the first time face to face. All that and I saw Lemony Snicket! 
Fantastic :-)
>

Kathy W here:
Sounds like you were having a perfectly pleasant trip until you had 
the misfortune to see Lemony Snicket! He writes such miserable books! 
If you weren't already in a dense fog before meeting him, you were, 
no doubt, in one afterwards.

Or, perhaps you were able to turn away before he saw you, to turn 
away and enter a quaint little shop filled with happy little elves...

Potioncat, whose unfortunate lot it is to follow the adventures of 
orphans, magical or not, and to catalogue the many things written 
about them.









From willsonkmom at msn.com  Thu Nov 10 12:49:21 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 12:49:21 -0000
Subject: Site down?
Message-ID: <dkvfkh+fq50@eGroups.com>

Potioncat fumbles with her keys, rattles the door knob, peers through 
the window...or would if she could see through the grime...

Is the site down? I can't get in.

Kathy W.






From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Thu Nov 10 13:10:30 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (Ginger)
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 05:10:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Site down?
In-Reply-To: <dkvfkh+fq50@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20051110131030.55205.qmail@web30209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>




Potioncat fumbles with her keys, rattles the door knob, peers through 
the window...or would if she could see through the grime...

Is the site down? I can't get in.

Kathy W.

Ginger replies:  

No trouble here.  I'm hard at work.  I don't see you peeking in.  Maybe you are on the other side of the building.  Sometimes when I can't get it, I shut off the computer and try again.  I don't know if that will help, but the only other problem-solving mechanism I have is chocolate.  If you can get in, I'll share.

 

Ginger, always free with cyberchocolate








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From spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 10 13:37:50 2005
From: spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com (dungrollin)
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 13:37:50 -0000
Subject: Timeline for finishing reviews?
In-Reply-To: <dkt044+gem6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dkvife+bqgc@eGroups.com>

> Jen: 
> 1.2.8.9, Graveyard rebirth, is primarily for posts giving an 
overview 
> of the event or discussing multiple parts of the rebirth covering 
> several chapters. Specific events within the entire scene, such as 
> Priori Incantatem or Voldemort giving Harry his wand back, are coded 
just to the chapter 

Dot:
Ta for that. So it's to avoid having too many posts coded to all three 
of those chapter codes. Okeydoke.

Catalogue site seems to be fine to me too.

Dot






From willsonkmom at msn.com  Thu Nov 10 14:20:27 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:20:27 -0000
Subject: Timeline for finishing reviews?
In-Reply-To: <dkvife+bqgc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dkvkvb+tdrv@eGroups.com>


>Dot: 
> Catalogue site seems to be fine to me too.
> 


Potioncat steps back and glares at the door. Doesn't look like she has 
the right key. The chocolate is certainly tempting...timelines 
now...sounds familiar. Maybe she'll go grocery shopping, perhaps no one 
will notice if she's missing 5 hours.

She scribbles a note and shoves it under the door.

Could someone send me the link for the site? My computer says it can't 
find the horcrux. And save me some chocolate, please.

Kathy W.









From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 13 04:43:51 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (quigonginger)
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 04:43:51 -0000
Subject: splitting heirs
Message-ID: <dl6ga7+vcdn@eGroups.com>

Oh, I am so darn clever.  Yeah, right.

I have a query about the heirs/rules of inheritance category.  Since 
we now have a specific category for Harry's ancestry, do the Heir of 
Gryffindor posts still go here?  

The definition says "a good place for the discussions of who gets 12 
Grimmauld Place".  

I have read the posts and found that the Heir of Gryff posts are 
almost all coded to Harry's ancestry, or were redundant and have 
probably been axed from that category.

There are still plenty of posts about Heir of Slyth and a variety of 
others (Weasleys, Evanses, Riddles) plus the anticipated GP 
discussions to make the category solid without the H of G posts, and 
it seems a bit redundant to have 2 places for Harry's heredity line.  
The posts which discuss a potential H of G in relation to the H of S 
could stay as some don't focus on Harry specificly, rather, the 
animosity between GG and SS, and what role the C of S was intended to 
play.

A thought?  Anyone?

Ginger, almost done with her assignment (3 categories left!)






From paul-groups at wibbles.org  Sun Nov 13 19:23:11 2005
From: paul-groups at wibbles.org (kippesp)
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:23:11 -0000
Subject: Catalog moved
Message-ID: <dl83qv+ifc8@eGroups.com>

I've finally moved the Catalog site off my home computer and onto a
real server.  The server we're not using is the FictionAlley test
server.  But it should offer a higher transfer rate for everyone but me.

The URL is http://catalog.hpfgu.org:443/

You'll need to continue to use the :443.  Once we have a finished set
up, that can be discontinued.

Carolyn will post once she's checked the new site out.  But from my
perspective you're free to use the new URL.







From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 13 19:40:44 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (quigonginger)
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:40:44 -0000
Subject: password
Message-ID: <dl84rs+cpeh@eGroups.com>

Ok, the last time we switched servers I had a dickens of a time getting 
in because I kept spelling it wrong.  This time I can't get in, and I 
have typed it one...letter...at...a...time to make sure I spelled it 
right. 

Is it still the same?  Or am I an idiot?  Or should I just try every 
sweet in the books?

Help, I need somebody.  Help...
Ginger






From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Sun Nov 13 21:23:34 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:23:34 -0000
Subject: password & new URL
In-Reply-To: <dl84rs+cpeh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dl8asm+mkd4@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "quigonginger" 
<quigonginger at y...> wrote:
>
> Ok, the last time we switched servers I had a dickens of a time 
getting 
> in because I kept spelling it wrong.  This time I can't get in, and I 
> have typed it one...letter...at...a...time to make sure I spelled it 
> right. 
> 
> Is it still the same?  Or am I an idiot?  Or should I just try every 
> sweet in the books?
> 
> Help, I need somebody.  Help...
> Ginger
>

Hiya Ginger

The password and username should be exactly the same. I have just gone 
in and tested it and it worked for me. I'll email it offlist to you 
again just to be sure.

Now, Paul wants to doublecheck all the data has come over. It looks ok 
to me at a cursory lookthrough, but could people check up on the last 
thing they did, just to see it is still there, and still ticked as you 
left it?

I've got past the worst of work-related stuff, hope to get back to this 
project now very shortly, including answering queries recently. Bear 
with me.

Carolyn











From elfundeb at comcast.net  Mon Nov 14 12:57:19 2005
From: elfundeb at comcast.net (Debbie)
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 12:57:19 -0000
Subject: Another one done!
Message-ID: <dla1jf+4thf@eGroups.com>

At last! I've finished Parenting & Child Development and its subsets 
maturity/immaturity and child abuse/mistreatment.  I cut out over half 
the posts, leaving the ones that discuss the topic from a thematic 
(e.g., Harry's deficient father figures) or clinical viewpoint, draw 
parallels between different family groupings (e.g., Malfoys vs. 
Dursleys), or otherwise do more than discuss whether a character is 
abused/immature/a good parent.  

Looking ahead, the only unclaimed topics seem to be:

Morality/immorality
Arabella Figg
Barty Crouch Jr.
Beings
Beasts
Spirits
Magic to animagi

I'm deciding between morality/immorality and Barty Crouch Jr.  If 
anyone has their eye on one of these, shout out and I'll take the 
other.

Debbie
donning a black leather jacket and shades and borrowing my son's 
drumsticks to practice for the cataloguing band performance






From stevejjen at earthlink.net  Tue Nov 15 16:33:40 2005
From: stevejjen at earthlink.net (Jen Reese)
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:33:40 -0000
Subject: Another one done!
In-Reply-To: <dla1jf+4thf@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dld2l4+odeu@eGroups.com>

Debbie:

> Looking ahead, the only unclaimed topics seem to be:
> 
> Morality/immorality
> Arabella Figg
> Barty Crouch Jr.
> Beings
> Beasts
> Spirits
> Magic to animagi
> 
> I'm deciding between morality/immorality and Barty Crouch Jr.  If 
> anyone has their eye on one of these, shout out and I'll take the 
> other.

Wow, down to 7 sections left to be claimed. Take Crouch Jr. as far as 
I'm concerned, that way you can deal with the Crouch Novenas since you 
actually lived them in real time <g>. 

I'm down to two categories, finishing off the Good/Evil that Dicentra 
did the bulk of, and Characterization. That last one has a good number 
of posts, so may be all I'm good for until the New Year. But we'll 
see! Sometimes I get on a roll and whip stuff out.

Jen, applauding Debbie for making it through the parenting/child-abuse 
category and thinking how many more posts will be candidates for that 
category post-OOTP. :(






From elfundeb at comcast.net  Tue Nov 15 17:05:30 2005
From: elfundeb at comcast.net (Debbie)
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:05:30 -0000
Subject: Another one done!
In-Reply-To: <dld2l4+odeu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dld4gq+me1s@eGroups.com>

Jen:
> Wow, down to 7 sections left to be claimed. 

Erm, I seem to have missed a couple that were only partially done: 
Group dynamics (originally 408 posts)
WW History/Law & Order (originally 1888 posts)

But that's still quite an accomplishment.

Take Crouch Jr. as far as 
> I'm concerned, that way you can deal with the Crouch Novenas since 
you 
> actually lived them in real time <g>. 

Heh.  I did Crouch Sr. so I've already done the novennas, and 
probably half the posts in this category.  I seem to like these 
guys. ;-)

Jen:
> Sometimes I get on a roll and whip stuff out.

Me too.  I started on Morality last night; maybe I'll do them both.

> Jen, applauding Debbie for making it through the parenting/child-
abuse 
> category and thinking how many more posts will be candidates for 
that 
> category post-OOTP. :(

Yes, but we'll reject 90% of them, because most of it has already 
been said.  And it wasn't so much a punishment; a number of the early 
abuse posts addressed the issue from interesting angles that we never 
see anymore. :(







From stevejjen at earthlink.net  Tue Nov 15 18:23:51 2005
From: stevejjen at earthlink.net (Jen Reese)
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:23:51 -0000
Subject: Another one done!
In-Reply-To: <dld4gq+me1s@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dld93n+6roq@eGroups.com>

> > Jen, applauding Debbie for making it through the parenting/child-
> > abuse category and thinking how many more posts will be
> > candidates for that category post-OOTP. :(

Debbie: 
> Yes, but we'll reject 90% of them, because most of it has already 
> been said.  And it wasn't so much a punishment; a number of the 
> early abuse posts addressed the issue from interesting angles that
> we never see anymore. :(

Jen: That's funny you say that. Just the other day I read about 
Steve Kloves in a screenwriter magazine and he mentioned as an 
aside "Remember Harry was an abused child and so he's always that 
boy in the cupboard looking through the slats of the door at 
reality" or something to that effect. I was surprised! No matter 
what problems I have with Kloves over the movies (and they aren't 
huge), he's the guy who knows the most background about the series 
of anyone, who has some of JKR's inside information so he can 
formulate the characters when the movie extrapolates. Plus, he's 
bound by a confidentiality clause which makes it even easier for Jo 
to spill a few more beans to him than to us!

Anyway, I was so curious to know if that observation was his own or 
something Jo mentioned either directly or indirectly. I'll probably 
have to take a peek in your category now, and see what a satisfying 
debate on the subject looks like.

Jen






From willsonkmom at msn.com  Tue Nov 15 19:31:02 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:31:02 -0000
Subject: Another one done!
In-Reply-To: <dld4gq+me1s@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dldd1m+f5va@eGroups.com>


> Jen:
> > Wow, down to 7 sections left to be claimed. 
> 
> Erm, I seem to have missed a couple that were only partially done: 
> Group dynamics (originally 408 posts)
> WW History/Law & Order (originally 1888 posts)


Kathy W:
I'm supposed to do Group Dynamics. However, I haven't started and won't 
be able to before Thursday. If anyone would like it, just speak up! If 
not, I'll start on Thursday.

I did get into the catalogue office, thanks Paul!  I'll start on the 
chocolate now...all to be better prepared on Thursday.


Kathy W.







From stevejjen at earthlink.net  Fri Nov 18 14:38:49 2005
From: stevejjen at earthlink.net (Jen Reese)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:38:49 -0000
Subject: Movie, anyone?
Message-ID: <dlkp1p+t6ea@eGroups.com>

"Erm, Miss Havisham, I've got an important appointment to go to at 
11:45 am this morning. Work related, of course! Research and the 
like....." Jen trailed off, eyes misting over at the thought of warm, 
buttery popcorn, the kind only a movie theatre can make.

So, anyone else going to GOF? 

Jen








From willsonkmom at msn.com  Fri Nov 18 15:11:11 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 15:11:11 -0000
Subject: Group Dynamics
In-Reply-To: <di6hsf+ft2d@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dlkquf+5kbj@eGroups.com>

 
 
> C: Whatever you feel happy with  really, but would you like to tackle 
> Group 22 Group Dynamics, bearing in mind that KathyK had an initial 
> go at sub-sections 1.2.11 and 1.2.11.3?
> 


Kathy W:
I'm finally starting on this group. Do I understand that 1.2.11 and 
1.2.3 were done? I expected 1.2.11 to be empty. Here's the numbers as I 
get ready to start:

1.2.11 Group Dynamics  24
1.2.11.1 Weasleys      324
1.2.11.2 Blacks         8
1.2.11.3 Dursleys      207
1.2.11.4 Potters        31
1.2.11.5 Malfoys       102
1.2.11.6 Crouches       25
1.2.11.7 Trio          361
1.2.11.8 MWPP          165

Oh, I just applied for a job that comes with a salary. Homemakers have 
to really dig deep to make themselves look valuable to the employer, so 
I used everything I could think of. The Human Resource person was a 
little perplexed at my first entry on the job history form:

HP Catalogue
Deserted Warehouse
Theory Bay

"Where is this?" she asked and I replied, "Don't worry, your owl will 
know where to go." I think I saw her crumple up the paper when I left 
the office.

Miss H., if a form does appear on your desk, kindly avoid mentioning my 
productivity level.

Kathy W (who really almost choked at one question that asked if I'd 
ever gone by a nickname and for how long. I was tempted to put 
Potioncat.)







From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 18 15:16:14 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (quigonginger)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 15:16:14 -0000
Subject: heirs, ancesters, and all that rubish
Message-ID: <dlkr7u+e5dt@eGroups.com>

Ginger waddles in, having gained 10 pounds from Jen *mentioning* 
movie popcorn.  (BTW: my cousin saw it at midnight and enjoyed it)

Now to business.  Heirs and rules of inheritance vs 
ancesters/descendants.

I have flipped and flopped posts around between those 2 categories, 
and I think I finally have them sorted out.  They seem to fall into 2 
types, which, unless someone objects, I have sorted as follows:

Heirs and rules:  Posts about things which people have inherited or 
may inherit.  Property, animals, elves, and traits (ie: red hair) are 
included.  

Ancest/descend:  Lineage (real or speculative) of the characters.  
Also includes the great CoS debate.

The latter is a bit heavier than the former, but we haven't seen the 
12 GP posts, so I'm comfortable leaving it at that.  There is, of 
course, a lot of overlap.

I will edit the definitions unless someone has objections.

Only 206 posts to go in genetics and WW population and I'm done with 
my assignment.

Ginger, with a nasty case of hiccups.






From willsonkmom at msn.com  Wed Nov 23 12:58:18 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 12:58:18 -0000
Subject: Group Dynamics
In-Reply-To: <dlkquf+5kbj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dm1p1a+gjhd@eGroups.com>

 
> 1.2.11 Group Dynamics  24
> 1.2.11.1 Weasleys      324
> 1.2.11.2 Blacks         8
> 1.2.11.3 Dursleys      207
> 1.2.11.4 Potters        31
> 1.2.11.5 Malfoys       102
> 1.2.11.6 Crouches       25
> 1.2.11.7 Trio          361
> 1.2.11.8 MWPP          165
> 


I've gone through 1.2.11. As expected, all posts will be moved or 
removed. One thing we should determine, is whether characters in 
these headings are also coded to their names. I seem to recall that 
one of the reasons for forming G.D. was to avoid coding everyone in 
the post. If agreed, then I'll remove those codes as I come to them, 
or I can click review coding.

By the way, I got the job....Bloody Hell!

Kathy W.






From stevejjen at earthlink.net  Wed Nov 23 16:15:14 2005
From: stevejjen at earthlink.net (Jen Reese)
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 16:15:14 -0000
Subject: Group Dynamics
In-Reply-To: <dm1p1a+gjhd@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dm24ii+glu1@eGroups.com>

Kathy W.:
> One thing we should determine, is whether characters in 
> these headings are also coded to their names. I seem to recall that 
> one of the reasons for forming G.D. was to avoid coding everyone in 
> the post. If agreed, then I'll remove those codes as I come to them, 
> or I can click review coding.

Jen: This cropped up in several posts I came across, esp. with the 
Weasleys. A post might be coded to 3-4 different Weasleys, plus the 
Group Dyn. code. I left them alone, but think all the individual codes 
should drop away. Well, unless the post looks at each character 
separately and isn't trying to talk about their interactions. Most of 
the ones I ran across were about the Weasleys in general, though, or 
MWPP as a group.
 
> By the way, I got the job....Bloody Hell!

Woo-hoo!!! Congratulations. Course you know what that means: You have 
to show up. Like every *day*. *shudders* But you'll still hang out 
round here, keepin' the office lively and helping with Miss, right?

Jen







From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Wed Nov 23 20:48:51 2005
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2)
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:48:51 -0000
Subject: Group Dynamics
In-Reply-To: <dm24ii+glu1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dm2kjj+q5j1@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "Jen Reese" <stevejjen at e...> 
wrote:

>  
> > By the way, I got the job....Bloody Hell!
> 
> Woo-hoo!!! Congratulations. Course you know what that means: You have 
> to show up. Like every *day*. *shudders* But you'll still hang out 
> round here, keepin' the office lively and helping with Miss, right?
> 
> Jen
>

Kathy..don't do it..I got a job back in the summer and look where it's 
got me :(

Did your catalogue experience really count for something?? Well, there 
you go. I knew we were doing something useful!

Cheers
Carolyn






From willsonkmom at msn.com  Thu Nov 24 13:45:49 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 13:45:49 -0000
Subject: New Job
Message-ID: <dm4g6d+dfvm@eGroups.com>

Oops, sorry if anyone gets this twice.
>
>  
> CW:> Kathy..don't do it..I got a job back in the summer and look 
where 
> it's 
> > got me :(
> 
> KW:
> The appeal of putting on nice clothes, spending the day with 
adults, 
> and being paid has lost its sparkle as I comtemplate commuting, 
> getting home after supper (and who is going to be cooking?) 
arranging 
> child care and still having to face homework battles. It's only 
part 
> time, but it works out to three days a week.
> 
> >CW: 
> > Did your catalogue experience really count for something?? Well, 
> there 
> > you go. I knew we were doing something useful!
> 
> KW: Erm, no, I made that part up. But I was thinking about it as I 
> completed the forms. Now, those of you who do this sort of thing 
will 
> have to tell me how to visit HP websites at work without getting 
> caught.
> 
> Happy Thanksgiving!

Kathy W






From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 29 15:27:49 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (quigonginger)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 15:27:49 -0000
Subject: another done
Message-ID: <dmhs1l+9o0l@eGroups.com>

Ginger looks up from her desk.  The office is warm and inviting after 
being stranded by an ice blizzard for the last 2 days.  RL work 
actually cancelled (the only time in 7 1/2 years) due to the fact 
that the roads were not fit for travel by foot or vehicle.

No work?  What to do with an extra 12 hours?  First, Ginger decided, 
a nap was in order.  Can't run the computer with the lights 
flickering and friends from all over the greater metro area (such as 
it is) calling to say they had no power.  

But after the nice nap- to work!  Not the mundane Muggle type, but to 
tackle that last nasty sub-category which includes genetics and 
population estimates.  Science and maths.  Not good.  Many posts were 
left coded as this little mind had no idea what the Sam Hill they 
were talking about.

But victory at last!

Health through Media is now 1474 posts.  It doesn't seem like it 
should be that many.  According to the database, there were 1700+ to 
start with, and I know I uncoded much more than 300, so I think that 
some were added after that original total was tallied.  

Now, on to bigger and better things.  Um..... What's left?  
Everything has a name under it on one database or another.  Is there 
anything anyone would like me to pick up?  Maybe something small with 
no maths skills required?

Ginger, off to take bed, looking forward to getting up early for work 
and scraping through about 1.5 inches (or 7.3456 kilograms) of ice on 
her windshield.  Bleh.






From willsonkmom at msn.com  Tue Nov 29 16:37:30 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:37:30 -0000
Subject: another done
In-Reply-To: <dmhs1l+9o0l@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dmi04a+5j3m@eGroups.com>

Ginger asked:
  Is there 
> anything anyone would like me to pick up?  Maybe something small with 
> no maths skills required?


Kathy W:
I'll offer part of my section up, if you'd like to work on it. Of 
course, it's the Christmas season, so you can shop around.

Here's the before review numbers. I've done 1.2.11 and will be moving a 
few posts into the other groups. Some of the ones I move might be 
rejected when that catagory is reviewed, but for the moment do not 
belong in 1.2.11. Should be done with that process today. 

I haven't started on any of the others. Would you like to take any of 
these? 
> > 1.2.11 Group Dynamics  24
> > 1.2.11.1 Weasleys      324
> > 1.2.11.2 Blacks         8
> > 1.2.11.3 Dursleys      207
> > 1.2.11.4 Potters        31
> > 1.2.11.5 Malfoys       102
> > 1.2.11.6 Crouches       25
> > 1.2.11.7 Trio          361
> > 1.2.11.8 MWPP          165

Carolyn, I think you should add 1.2.11.9 Snapes or Prince/Snapes. There 
is a current thread at HPFGU that will fit here. And I think many of 
the OoP Occulmency threads "Shouting Man/Cowering Woman" might fit here 
too.

I'm not sure if my RL job will start on 12/5 or 12/12, but for two 
weeks I'll be working full time. Then I'll go to 20--24 hours a week. I 
do plan to hang around the catalogue office, not sure what my 
productivity will be like...

Who saw the movie? I liked it.
Kathy W.








From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 29 21:23:00 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (Ginger)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:23:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Re: another done
In-Reply-To: <dmi04a+5j3m@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20051129212300.30784.qmail@web30214.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

    

Kathy W:
Here's the before review numbers. I've done 1.2.11 and will be moving a 
few posts into the other groups. Some of the ones I move might be 
rejected when that catagory is reviewed, but for the moment do not 
belong in 1.2.11. Should be done with that process today. 

I haven't started on any of the others. Would you like to take any of 
these? 
> > 1.2.11 Group Dynamics  24
> > 1.2.11.1 Weasleys      324
> > 1.2.11.2 Blacks         8
> > 1.2.11.3 Dursleys      207
> > 1.2.11.4 Potters        31
> > 1.2.11.5 Malfoys       102
> > 1.2.11.6 Crouches       25
> > 1.2.11.7 Trio          361
> > 1.2.11.8 MWPP          165

Carolyn, I think you should add 1.2.11.9 Snapes or Prince/Snapes. There 
is a current thread at HPFGU that will fit here. And I think many of 
the OoP Occulmency threads "Shouting Man/Cowering Woman" might fit here 
too.

Ginger says:
   
  I agree with the proposition for a Prince/Snape category.  The Snape category is probably big enough as it is ;)
   
  I'll take the Malfoys for now.  I did Draco and Cissy, so I have already seen a lot of them.  I'll take more later.  Perhaps we can just let each other know when we start one and edit the database as we go to make sure we aren't crossing paths?  I should be able to do the Malfoys this weekend.  Only 102 posts!  Should be a breeze after that last chunk.
   
  Ginger, who just discovered that her snow shovel is in the metal shed, which is now coated with ice.  Perhaps a new shovel is in order.


		
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From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 29 21:29:03 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (quigonginger)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:29:03 -0000
Subject: Malfoys
Message-ID: <dmih6v+kb24@eGroups.com>

Just to double check:  Malfoys was listed under Kathy K rather than 
Kathy W.  I changed it to my name, but wanted to make sure that Kathy K 
had given that section over to Kathy W.  

Would one of you guys just change your name to Earl or something?  I'm 
confused.  On second thought, no.  I'd just forget which one of you 
changed.  

Cheers, Ginger






From willsonkmom at msn.com  Wed Nov 30 03:58:03 2005
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 03:58:03 -0000
Subject: Malfoys
In-Reply-To: <dmih6v+kb24@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dmj80b+qomt@eGroups.com>

Ginger:
>
> Just to double check:  Malfoys was listed under Kathy K rather than 
> Kathy W.  I changed it to my name, but wanted to make sure that Kathy 
K 
> had given that section over to Kathy W.  
> 
> Would one of you guys just change your name to Earl or something?  
I'm 
> confused.  On second thought, no.  I'd just forget which one of you 
> changed.  
> 
> Cheers, Ginger

Earlina here:
I went in and removed Kathy W and Kathy K from everything under Group 
Dynamics, except for 1.2.11 which now has a definition, and a Kathy W 
EDITED. (Sorry, didn't mean to shout...none of you cowered, did you?)

And I put Kathy W by Weasleys. I'll take them on this week....well, 
that didn't sound very nice, did it? I did the Weasley age section and 
I'll bet some of that shows up in this group. Ginger is officially 
assigned to the Malfoys...better bring your own tea towel.

To clarify, we can remove any individual character code from these 
posts if the the real intent is how the group/family interacts. That is 
what everyone agrees to?

Kathy W...who wonders if anyone knows who James Earl was? There are a 
heck of a lot of Southerners named James Earl, most of them go by the 
name "Bubba" but that's another story. And it's Ginger's fault my 
Southern accent has returned. 

What's Potter's middle name? not James Earl is it? No wonder he goes by 
Prongs!

Oh, and the company decided they really didn't want to train new staff 
just before Christmas, so I won't be starting until Jan 9. 

Kathy (Earlina) W








From quigonginger at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 30 13:11:05 2005
From: quigonginger at yahoo.com (Ginger)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:11:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Catalogue] Re: Malfoys and Earl
In-Reply-To: <dmj80b+qomt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20051130131105.46648.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


    Kathy (Earl) wrote:
  To clarify, we can remove any individual character code from these 
posts if the the real intent is how the group/family interacts. That is 
what everyone agrees to?

  Ginger (Ginny Jo):
  That sounds like a plan to me.  I know I did that a lot on the Draco review.
  
Kathy W...who wonders if anyone knows who James Earl was? There are a 
heck of a lot of Southerners named James Earl, most of them go by the 
name "Bubba" but that's another story. And it's Ginger's fault my 
Southern accent has returned. 

  GinJo:
  Hah!  Southern accents never go away.  I will never be able to raise my voice at someone named Tim or Jim without making each name 2 syllables, the way my aunts do when calling their children.
   
  As to James Earl.... James Earl Jones was the voice of Darth Vader.  James Earl Carter was President of the US.  James Lee Carter, my cousin, was not President of the US, but could easily be a Bubba.  All 3 of my cousins with the middle name Jo have gone citified and dropped the Jo from their name.  I know there was another very significant (in US history) James Earl, but I can't for the life of me remember who he was.  
   
  James Potter was not James Earl Potter; he was Jimmy Sue (his parents wanted a daughter as well), but he changed it upon reaching his legal adulthood to James Sudafed and made a killing in the potions-for-muggles market, which is where Harry got all the gold.  You may have been confused because his mother was the granddaughter of the 19th Earl of Hangleton, a title which no one now cares to claim, but which may come in handy should Harry require a Coat of Arms.
   
  Ginger, babbling on at random.


		
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