[HPFGU-Feedback] Re: ADMIN: We'd Like to Pick Your Brains About TBAY

[Shaun Hately]

On 3 Dec 2003 at 22:35, lucky_kari wrote:

> --- In HPFGU-Feedback at yahoogroups.com, "Shaun Hately" <drednort at a...>

> And well I must admit here that TBAY is... well, clever. And I'm
> afraid some people don't like cleverness. They find it somehow less
> than honest, less real.

I'm fine with cleverness - and I agree that most TBAY posts are very clever. I just 
also think they are potentially divisive and often very artificial. That's my opinion.

> But well, that's a matter of personal preference, isn't it? That's why
> we have a TBAY header. 

Yes, it is a matter of personal preference. And personally I think TBAY would be 
better off on it on its own list so those that prefer  not to have to receive messages 
that take forty lines to make a canon point that could have been made in five lines 
have that option.

A header goes some way to giving people that choice. My personal view is given 
that it is so easy to set up sublists at Yahoogroups, that it makes very little sense 
to me not to go all the way and have a separate list. Those who are interested in 
TBAY will still have just as much right to participate in it or read it. Those who 
don't, will be totally free from it.
 
> > That's my perception, and it may be wrong - but I don't believe that
> the idea that 
> > TBAY posts are about canon-based theories is unassailable.
> 
> Well, I rather think it is. I mean, you can assail anything, but
> there's really no doubt that the TBAY posts stand up to the HPFGU
> rules for canon based discussion, while the Movie and OT posts don't.
> At all. If you think that standard should be changed, that's really a
> different matter. 

I have written posts that are based on canon - including to the extent I have 
quoted passages, and given page numbers, etc. and then had list elves suggest 
to me those posts should be on OT-Chatter - even though they were canon-based 
discussion.

I think they easily stood up to the rules. Nonetheless, I was asked to move them.

It seems to me that the standard enforced is NOT just that posts should be canon 
based. If it was, I wouldn't have been asked to move posts that were canon 
based.

I was asked to move these posts because they were too long and some people 
don't like receiving long messages.

I've no real problem with that - provided it's applied consistently. And to me, if my 
posts were unacceptable on the main list because of the length of material I 
included to make my canon points, then TBAY posts should be treated in the 
same way as my posts were.


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