[HPFGU-Feedback] Re: More About TBAY

[Kathryn Cawte]

Sandy


I didn't address (and wasn't thinking of) you or anyone else in
particular. (So it's hard for me to understand just who it is you
think I'm being rude to.) But I do think that anyone who is *really*
determined to get TBAY off the main list *must* have deeper issues
(as no one has articulated anything I find sufficient to explain it
(when measured against the feelings I *do* understand of those who
want TBAY to stay right where it is that I *know* TBAY's opponents
are well aware of). And before you say that my failure to understand
does not impact the relevance or validity of such feelings, I will
invite anyone who'd like to, to enlighten me).

K

At least a couple of peole have explained quite clearly *why* they feel TBAY
has no place on the list. I'm sorry you don't understand those reasons but I
think deciding that when they give those reasons they're obviously trying to
cover up some deeper agenda and suggest there must be something wrong with
them is unfair. If you don't understand the arguments they've made - try
getting them to explain them. Frankly I don't think the reasons people have
given for why TBAY has to stay on the main list are particularly 'good'
reasons (ie they don't convince me), but I accept that that's how they feel
and I'm not accusing them of having any deeper agenda. As with any topic you
just have to do people the courtesy of believing them when they say that
they feel very strongly about something even when it makes no sense to you.
This attitude of assuming they have 'issues' they're afraid to articulate,
especially when you imply that it's because they are somehow flawed (ie they
have no sense of whimsy or have had a sense of humour bypass), *is*
offensive. And I'm sorry if you don't agree with that and I'm quite willing
to believe you when you say you didn't mean it that way, but since at least
3 people have now pointed out to you that it was insulting, you're just
going to have to realise that a slightly more careful choice of words might
be prudent in future - after all if people get the impression you're trying
to shoot down your opponents rather than their arguments they do tend to
assume it's because you don't have any persuasive arguments of your own.
(I'm *not* saying that you don't, although like I say I haven't heard any
reasons that convince me there's a good reason why TBAY couldn't have its
own list, I am simply saying that that is the impression you give when you
seem to have resorted to implying that people who disagree with you have
some kind of problem)

K

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