ADMIN: Possible Change to the Main List Settings

Kelley kelleythompson at kelleyscorpio.yahoo.invalid
Tue Jan 13 02:49:09 UTC 2004


--- In HPFGU-Feedback at yahoogroups.com, "Shaun Hately" <drednort at a...> 
wrote:
> > Kelley wrote:
> > How can you narrow a search to a specific Yah group?

Shaun:
> That's the precise problem I'm seeing - using google, it's not hard 
> to get hits on a publically archived group by searching the entire 
> net - it's not hard to get hits by searching all of yahoogroups. 
> But the method that would most logically be used to search only a 
> specific publically archived yahoogroup doesn't seem to me to work 
> - that's doesn't mean it can't be done - but it may not be as 
> simple as some people think. >>>

Hm, okay...I'll look into this some more.

> > Kelley:  
> > Hm...any techy types here know of some way to be able to use 
>Google technology to search the archives *without* making the 
>archives public?  

Shaun:
> I don't *think* that would be very easy - if the group isn't 
> public, I can't see how google could search it. >>>

Agh, that's what I'd figured.  Ah well, so much for that. ;-)

Heidi:
>> If you sign up for Google to be the search engine for your site, 
like we have on fictionalley at 
http://www.fictionalley.org/fictionalleypark,
they do spider through your site with regularity and incorporate you
into the search engine itself. >>
 
Huh.  So, Heidi, does this work for Yah groups, too, do you know?  I 
mean, aside from personal sites, on your own server, etc.  My 
immediate thought is that no way would Yahoo go for this, though of 
course I don't know what's involved in listing your site with Google, 
whether Yah would even be aware of some groups being listed with 
Google, etc.  Plus, would the archives *have* to be public to do 
this?  (I'm guessing yes.)

Hang on, remembering something...

Okay, found it -- a thread from another group I'm in discussing that 
Yahoo (not specified to groups, but Yahoo.com) was contracting Google 
as its search engine, but has been developing its own search engine 
(to compete with/take business from Google).  So, hm, maybe someday 
when Yah finally presents us with the option of "premium" (pay) 
groups we may get better search features with that.  

Anyone ever use Yahoo search before?  (I always use Google, myself).  
If so, does this look new to you (advanced search at Yahoo.com)?

http://search.yahoo.com/search/options?fr=fp-top&p=

No idea how good this engine is at all; bound to be better than what 
the Groups currently have, though.  Someday, someday... ;-)


--Kelley






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