My two knuts

[Amy Z]

I strongly object to the question of whether Cindy should have been 
banned being raised here.

IMO, if someone is banned, she is BANNED.  She may not continue to 
make her case, nor may others make it in her stead.  Banning is an 
instrument for protecting the community from someone who is violating 
the community peace by, e.g., spamming, or, in Cindy's case, being 
deliberately divisive, dishonest and destructive.  When the admin has 
determined that someone is in such profound or persistent violation 
of the rules that lesser steps are not enough, they are the final 
court of appeal.  

Why not be free to keep discussing it, you may reasonably ask?  
***Because the very way Cindy did her damage was to carry on the kind 
of debate that she is now carrying on by proxy*** (because yes, it's 
unprovable, but to anyone who is familiar with their styles, it's 
obvious that Cindy is ghostwriting through Tom as a way to get around 
the ban).  TO ALLOW THE DEBATE TO CONTINUE ON HER TERMS IS TO NULLIFY 
THE BAN.

> -Tom, who honestly wrote this himself under zero
> pressure from anyone, who doesn't bother with
> ghostwriters because this is an internet community
> (and what would be the point?)

The point is to get around a ban.  That seems obvious.

And did Tom honestly think Joywitch was on FAQ?  Because she never 
has been.  Nor has she ever had offlist conversations with Tom.  (I 
know because I just asked her.)  So what the hell is "he" talking 
about citing all the ways she behaves in those contexts?  Can it be 
that "he" is actually someone who has had many offlist conversations 
with Joywitch (because she was one of those Cindy supporters who 
later came to learn just what happens to someone who dares to 
disagree with her)?  Can it be that "he" is in fact someone who 
shared an administrative list with Joywitch last April, when things 
got bad, not on FAQ, by the way, but on the Admin list?  Can it be 
that "he" says "FAQ" instead of "the Admin List" because Tom was on 
FAQ but never on the Admin list, so "he" is tortuously trying to make 
it sound as if Tom, not Cindy, is writing?

Just curious.
Amy Z