Archive 3 - Missing 59000 to 59999

Steve bboyminn at bboyminn.yahoo.invalid
Tue Sep 28 19:29:29 UTC 2004


--- In HPFGU-Feedback at yahoogroups.com, "Kelley" <kelleythompson at g...>
wrote:
> Steve:
> > ..., but in Archive 3, the files in the 59000 to 59999 block are
missing. 
> >>>
> 
> Oh, drat; no, they were just skipped over.
>  

> > Could that be corrected, I'm downloading the entire archive to my
> > computer. >>>

> 
> I've gone ahead and uploaded them here, as both a text file and as a 
> zip file.  Steve, are the zip files better for you?  I've uploaded 
> the 60000s as txt files, but I can easily replace them.
>  

> > Also, when is the next planned update of the archives?


> 
> I've actually been working on them a bit more lately; I received 
> files up to 107999 from Paul so am working on getting those 
> uploaded.  Let me know if the zips are better for you, and I'll get 
> those replaced.  (I'm kelleyscorpio on YM; if you're on now, feel 
> free to buzz me and I'll get started on it now.)
> 
> --Kelley

Thanks Kelley,

Actually, the ZIP files are better for me. Yahoo does this thing where
the actual locations of files aren't linked to. For example, the
actual link may look like this...

http://f2.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/sLRZQRRaAro8UOU2odP8iu_PvnJIfb6BbBdLYADyfsouBrCIp1B3ERDsnNRI7FaO_vyboFcmU-xghoz7qzR5Tzn-Yh59hw/Yahoo%21%20Groups%20Archive%20%28cont.%29/m50000-52999/m52000-52999.zip

this makes it more diffcult for other servers to link directly to the
file. Yahoo is actually doing it for their protection and our
protection. The problem is when I try to download a TXT file or "Save
Target as" my browser says the link can't be found. So, have have to
download the file on the screen; that is, display the TXT file in my
browser, then save it. That's bad for me because it's slower, but good
for people who want to view on-line rather than download and save.

So, the advantage to the ZIP file is that I can download it easier and
 faster. The disadvantage of ZIP, unlike TXT, is that it can't be
viewed on-line.

Side note: ZIP files average about 500Kb, were as TXT files are
typically about 2Mb (4 times larger). I have DSL, so the size isn't
that important to me. The ZIP take about 8 seconds, and the TXT take
about 30 seconds (which is annoyingly long for me). However, for
people with Dial-up connections these would be 128 seconds (estimated)
and 480 seconds (2.1 minutes and 8 minutes) assuming no other
communication delays.

The Archive prior to your most recent update, was about 70 files.
Multiply that times the dial-up download speeds and you have a
substantial amount of time.

Again, for my purposes, ZIP works better. 

Thanks for the help.

Steve/bboyminn









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