What Price Success? Improving Posting Quality on HPfGU
bleckybecs
bleckybecs at bleckybecs.yahoo.invalid
Fri Feb 18 02:41:14 UTC 2005
After several hours of reading threads, and a lot of note taking
about newbies (which I distinctly am!), I have a few thoughts to add
which I hope are helpful. I'm not good at figuring fully worked out
solutions. I'm much better at coming up with some ideas that
somebody else can fully shape. Please bear that in mind when reading
what I have to say.
In rough response to
Admin:
>>>*We* may be tired of certain topics, but we permit newcomers to
retread old ground because *they* are excited about it and
retreading that ground often leads to new ideas, and we don't want
to discourage that.<<<
As a newbie, I find myself saying `if it hasn't already been
discussed, and if it has please show me where' a lot. If I had been
given something like a `pit falls' email when I joined, this might
not be the case. I am perfectly competent on a computer, but I could
really use a `how to navigate this site for dummies'! There seems
such a lot of it, especially when you add in sister sites. I haven't
the least idea how to search the archive and how to work out what
has and hasn't been asked. FAQ would help loads, if only I could
find them! An explanation of how to search archives (instead of
Geoff being left to answer) would also have helped an awful lot
(still would as a matter of fact). Perhaps someone with this kind of
Geoff-like knowledge could be persuaded to write such a guide as a
one off job. This would allow new members to reduce the number of
repeated questions significantly and would also encourage us to find
old posts ourselves (other than FP) to reply to / expand on etc.
This should help improve both the quality and interest level of
newbies posts, whilst still allowing old ground to be covered.
Also, another thing to mention in `pit falls' or 'a dummies guide'
would be the amount of snipping required. This is something I'm
having difficulty coming to grips with, even though I am no longer
moderated. One house elf (Kranky!Elf IIRC) said to me that as a
general rule, we should leave in about as much as we actually write
in reply (or less). A simple rule like this in a `pit
falls' / 'dummies' package would have been very gratefully received
as a sound starting point. Not only that, but it would let people do
it more effectively themselves, rather than waste house elf time.
On a slightly different note, it appears that non-mod members are as
much at fault. I had an idea on this which probably won't be liked,
but it's never stopped me saying something before, so it won't now.
How about putting people back on moderated for a short amount of
time? I'm talking about a week or less. Some people will start just
to lurk, so I am talking about people who actively post. Maybe when
members have been posting for 9months or a year? Or maybe they could
be chosen randomly? Possibly by selecting a number of people (say 20
if the number of people posting is about 500) who have been posting
for more than a year. `Out of a hat' style, or `in rotation through
the list' style. It would almost be an MOT for people who've been
here longer (non-UK people - that`s a check up on a car every 3 (?)
years to make sure it`s in good working order). I mean it merely as
a reminder of what is expected by *all* the rules, as some of the
lesser rules may simply have been forgotten. (Ducks to avoid all
manner of things now headed in my direction!)
I would also like to say that I think the idea of no posting for a
couple of weeks after the release of HBP is a good one. It might be
annoying not to be able to say anything in those 2 weeks, but it
would give *everyone* time to read, possibly even re-read, the book,
absorb it and come up with well thought through topics of
conversation. It would give people time to calm down and make good,
clear points (and that's the idea of *this* discussion, right?). I
agree with all the points made about that idea. It makes a lot of
sense. If this was used alongside daily post number limitations, I
see that as the most workable way to control the inevitable influx.
Just a final (probably controversial) thought. What if the house
elves came up with the basic posts they can foresee a couple of days
before the ban was up and posted them. Don't get me wrong, I'm not
talking theories here, I'm talking simple `Why can Neville see
thestrals?' and `What is Hagrid`s task?' type questions. Not brand
new theory type questions. I'm not suggesting that they be allowed
to answer them either. I'm just suggesting that they put up the very
basic, very open question. I know this would put a dampener on
everyone wanting to be the first to show they spotted Luna was
missing from the train (which I didn't notice!), although it does
partly avoid that kind of mad rush and multiple posting. The main
thinking behind that idea is to allow everyone to respond to the
same questions under the same thread. It would allow more logical
flow, instead of tens of different threads all saying the same
thing. Those can't be completely avoided of course, but this may at
least manage the worst of it.
Just my few thoughts for what they're worth. So much for promising
myself I'd just be a reader here! I just can't seem to help getting
involved! :)
Becky (who is considering changing her name to avoid confusion with
Betsy!)
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