Catching up on a few thoughts.
Geoff Bannister
gbannister10 at geoff_bannister.yahoo.invalid
Tue Mar 1 22:44:55 UTC 2005
Geoff:
I hadn't visited the Feedback group for some while and was greatly
surprised to find that so many posts had arrived, mainly in February,
and that I had been elevated to the status of having invented the
term "tennis posts".
I shall treasure that honour.
A few thoughts crossed my mind on reading through many of the
accumulated messages. In passing, I hope that I am not contributing
to threads which are now considered to have gons off the boil.
In respect of "tennis" posts, many of you picked up on my
interpretation wich was that it was the type of post where we go into
a "Oh yes it did"/"Oh no it didn't" exchanges without any real added
contribution being made, which also gradually extended the length of
the message because it often isn't being suitably truncated.
Someone referred to my ability to locate an archive message. I am not
always infallible but, as a guide to how I work, I repeat the
following which I basically wrote in message 519; I have updated the
passage slightly to allow for the passing of time:
"Finally, the wretched search facility. One problem is that even if
you start from an older message number, the search always begins from
the latest one. The only way seems to be if you have any idea
whereabouts the thread was numerically and dive in and look on the
main message listing. What I have found useful is to keep my own
archive. Fairly soon after I joined the group 18 months ago (my first
post being 73361), I realised that the search engine was about as
useful as a chocolate teapot when it came to anything more than about
500 posts back so I started to save my own posts (which have now
reached about 1300 in the 52000 group posts whihc have arrived in
that time) and I transfer them into Word files holding 200 posts. Let
me hasten to say that this is not a display of overweening pride but
it often proves to be very valuable if someone queries an older post
where I had put in my two-pennyworth because I can track down
something of my own usually within a few minutes. It has saved me
many a frustrating session with !Yahoo's little toy."
I think the trouble with the search facility is that we are a very
high volume posting group. It is a pity that the Yahoo system can't
work like the search method in Word where the search works forward
from the point that you have reached and then offers the option of
returning to the start.
On the subject of limiting postings it is a fact that the volume of
posts can vary considerably. I went away on holiday last week and
returned home expecting to have to wade through 800 posts or so; to
my surprise there were only 400. It may be that we are twiddling our
thumbs waiting for the arrival of 16th July but the number of threads
seems to have be quite small and there does seem to be some evidence
of some tennis being played or at least warming up on the baseline.
I was not a member of the group when OOTP came out but the idea of a
closure to new messages seems a very worthy one - though 45 hours
last time seemed a rather odd figure.
Finally, on a tangent, I do find it annoying sometimes that some
posters are rather cavalier with their correction of spelling errors
and grammar and I am speaking of folk who I know are native English
speakers. I refer to those who do it as a matter of course and not
the occasional typing error which leaps out at you three seconds
after you hit the Send key. I have a number of off-group contacts
with group members for whom English is not their first language and
problems posed by native speakers can sometimes lead to
misunderstandings and misinterpretations.
I hope that these thoughts might add something useful to the on-going
discussions.
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