An Elfly Reminder
Steve
bboyminn at bboyminn.yahoo.invalid
Mon Aug 21 23:45:44 UTC 2006
--- In HPFGU-Feedback at yahoogroups.com, "Jordan Abel" <random832 at ...>
wrote:
>
> > bboyminn:
> >
> > ... in a sense you cheated ... by indentifing the
> > person in their fake post 'Whatever /B/ said', but
> > let's try it for real.
> > . . . . . . . . . . . .
>
> (example snipped, it was an incorrect interpretation)
>
> Random832:
> This is not how it would appear in an actual "standard" post.
>
> What you would see would be this:
>
> Begin sample message
> ----------------------
> Subject: Re: Famous Quotes
> From: Abraham Lincoln
> ----------------------
> Benjamin Franklin wrote:
> > Thomas Jefferson wrote:
> > > It behooves every man who values liberty of
> > > conscience for himself, to resist invasions
> > > of it in the case of others: or their case may,
> > > by change of circumstances, become his own.
> >
> > Those who would give up essential liberty to
> > purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither
> > liberty nor safety.
>
> At what point then is the approach of danger to be
> expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must
> spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad.
> If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its
> author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must
> live through all time, or die by suicide.
>
> --
> Abe
> ----------------------
> End sample message
>
> Random832:
> You may think it's counterintuitive, and maybe it is. But it's
> systematic and has been thus for decades.
>
bboyminn:
Your right I did slightly misinterpret the format you were trying to
present; one of the hazards of a 'what A said' 'what B said' example.
That partly why I switched to famous quotes.
Also, as has been pointed out, what the rest of the world does, or how
long they have done it are irrelevant to this group. We have stricter
standards, we've had them since the beginning of the group, and they work.
As you rightly point out in your example, that act of replying adds
the attribution header at the top, in a multi-response post each
person is identified as shown in your example, but it's not still not
that clear who said what.
Is...
Begin sample message
> ----------------------
> Subject: Re: Famous Quotes
> From: Abraham Lincoln
> ----------------------
> Benjamin Franklin wrote:
> > Thomas Jefferson wrote:
> > > It behooves every man who values liberty ...
> >
> > Those who would give up essential liberty to
> > purchase ...
>
> At what point then is the approach of danger to be
> expected? I answer, ... As a nation of freemen,
> we must live through all time, or die by suicide.
>
> Abe
or -
. . . . . . . . . .
Subject: Re: Famous Quotes
From: Abraham Lincoln
> > Tom:
> >
> > It behooves every man who values liberty...
> Ben:
>
> Those who would give up essential liberty to
> purchase ....
Abe:
At what point then is the approach of danger to be
expected? I answer, ... As a nation of freemen, we
must live through all time, or die by suicide.
Abe
. . . . . . . . . .
more clear and less subject to confusion or misinterpretation?
You are free to have your opinion, you are free to lobby the
moderators to accept your opinion as policy, but until such time our
standard are our standard independant of what the Internet does or
what anyone else thinks.
Again, I support these standards because I see them work effectively
day after day, year after year, for many many years. You don't mess
with success, although the Mods and Elves are more than willing to
find ways to improve upon success. As right or wrong as your method
may be, I don't see it as improving on function, effectiveness or success.
By the way, nice batch of posts in the other HP groups, it's clear you
are an intelligent, well informed, well educated person who will
surely be an asset to our groups. I look forward to agreeing and
disagreeing with you.
Just passing it along.
Steve/bboyminn
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