[HPFGU-Feedback] Mail Formats (was Re: An Elfly Reminder)

Shaun Hately drednort at drednort.geo.yahoo.invalid
Wed Aug 23 00:01:51 UTC 2006


On 22 Aug 2006 at 19:52, Jordan Abel wrote:

> I would like permission (both from you [Lee Storm] personally and from
> the elves) to start an experiment: zero quote posting.
> 
> Basically, any reply would, instead of quoting pieces of others'
> message with indentation, instead appropriately paraphrase for
> context. Where necessary (that is, when the wording itself is what's
> being responded to), _short_ verbatim quotes could be included, but
> properly included in text with an indication of what was said and
> included in proper "quotation marks" rather than indented with ascii
> right angle bracket signs.
> 
> So how about it? Would that be acceptable? It seems to me that such a
> thing would be the best solution, at least for posters willing to put
> the necessary amount of effort in.

Hi Jordan,

Before posting in reply to this, I should just point out that I am one of the list elves myself. I 
am incredibly busy at the moment, so haven't been able to post in this discussion, even 
though I have been following it.

The problem with this suggestion from *my* perspective is that in my experience, people 
often misunderstand the point that another poster was making, for whatever reason. Even 
people who do put a lot of effort into their posts.

And that would make me very worried about the idea of people paraphrasing what I said 
rather than quoting it - because if they misunderstood the point I was making, their 
paraphrasing might very well wind up not accurately representing what I said.

For some people, that might not matter - it depends on the type of things they discuss - but in 
my own case, sometimes I wind up discussing issues where fine distinctions matter quite a 
bit, and can also relate to issues that are potentially significant to me professionally - the last 
thing I need is someone going around claiming I think teachers should be allowed to bully 
students, when in fact, I just believe teachers should be allowed to be extremely strict, for 
example. And because different people put the lines in different places, if people started 
paraphrasing what I had written on certain issues, I could see that happening very easily.

Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
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