Snape

[clio44a]

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "professor_monkshood" <MMMfanfic at h...> wrote:
>  
> > I have been preparing carefully for my next comment.  Not only 
have 
> I donned my bullet-proof vest and suit of armour, I have also 
erected 
> a electrified barbed wire fence around my concrete bunker and 
hidden 
> inside it bearing a can of Mace.  Because... I didn't find Alan 
> Rickman particularly sexy!  (gasps of horror and fury and cries of 
> vengeance from all and sundry Snape fans).
> 
> I'm joining you and Amanda in the bunker.  Snape is not supposed to 
> be the subject of fantasy and Rickman did well enough here to hide 
> his 'sexiness'.
> 
> >However, he didn't do it for me physically at all.  Too old, too 
> chunky, too stiff around the neck (I agree with the high collar 
> comment).  Neither did he fit my mental image of Snape.  Snape is 
> younger, more gaunt, his hair is shoulder length and greasy.  

*Clio raises her hand* Do you guys have some more room in your 
bunker? (BTW, you're from New Zealand MMM? Cool.)
I sure am a big fan of the sarcastic, cruel Snape in the books, but I 
cannot see why I should drool over Rickman (or Snape)in the movie. 
Movie-Snape is light years away from my personal picture of Snape. 
That man should be more ascetic looking, with hollow eyes and an air 
of obsession (obsessed with potions, rule breaking students, 
childhood grudeges etc.)I have to agree with with Catherine here.

Catherine Keegan wrote:
>Snape's costume made him look heavy. Of course, shooting him from 
>below didn't help much as it accented the double chin. He could have 
>looked so great in dark, flowing robes.

That whole Rickman as Snape thing was a waste. There was so much 
potential in having a great charismatic actor play the most complex 
and enigmatic character of the HP universe. They gave this 
opportunity away, and Snape turned out as a bogeyman stumbling across 
the scenes with a slightly confused look on his face. To rehabilitate 
Rickman I must say that the scene in the library when Snape reaches 
out to the invisible cloak and the scene at the Quidditch pitch are 
really intense. Although I didn't like that flinging the hair-out-of 
the-face-movement. 

MMM wrote:
>Plus I 
> didn't go for the "no foolish wand waving" speech while striding 
> briskly into the classroom.  Feels all wrong to me.  If I were CC, 
> I'd have had him pause silkily, one eyebrow raised, in the doorway, 
> while the students fell silent, and then make his way slowly and 
> deliberately to the front of the room and *then* quietly, coolly 
> begin his speech.  I know the film was long and they had to hurry 
> along what they could, but CC's version lost a lot of Snape's 
> gravitas IMO.
> 

I fully agree with you here. I don't know how those lines are 
delivered in the original version by Rickman, but in the German 
dubbed movie the actor for Snape's voice is slightly huffing (from 
rushing into the room)when starting the potion speach. So from this 
and from shooting Snape from below you get the impression there is 
this slightly overweight guy rushing into the room, because he is 
late, and he hasn't time to wait with his lesson to begin, so he 
starts to speak while still out of breath. It's devastating and it 
actually made me cringe in my seat.
I'm stopping my rant here. The amazing thing is, that the guy (a non-
HP-reader)who saw the movie with me was still impressed by 
the "villain with the weird costume". 

MMM wrote:
> The first reaction after the movie was -- what on earth was Snape 
> doing, wishing Harry luck?  What was Steve Kloves doing and has he 
> really read the book?  Or does he skip the part with Snape in it?  
> The scene was jarring and Snape was acting totally OOC.  Snape 
would 
> never, ever under any circumstances, wish Harry Potter luck.  Would 
> anyone care to defend that scene?

I think they had to put it in because they cut out the scene when 
Harry surprises Snape and Filch in the staffrooom. In the movie Harry 
sees Snape's bleeding leg already in the girl's bathroom. So they had 
no scene where the kids saw Snape actually limping. I guess they came 
up with the Good-Luck-scene when they figured that the stretch 
from 'Snape's pants are ripped' to 'Hey, he is after the stone' was 
too much. So IMHO the purpose of that additional scene was not to 
show Snape was nice to the kids, but to have a close up how he was 
limping away. Why he had to have this ridiculous good luck line I 
don't know.

I, too, wonder a lot about the cuts and additions in the movie. After 
all Steve Kloves and Chris Columbus put much emphasize on how close 
they were working with JKR. And there was this interview where Kloves 
said he was intruiged how you could tell from Rickman's acting that 
he knows all his character's background. Huh?

Clio