[HPFGU-Movie] Re: Snape

[Susanne Schmid]

  clio44a <clio at unicum.de> wrote: 
MMM wrote:
>>Plus I 
>> didn't go for the "no foolish wand waving" speech while >striding 
>> briskly into the classroom.  Feels all wrong to me.  If I >were CC, 
>> I'd have had him pause silkily, one eyebrow raised, in the >doorway, 
>> while the students fell silent, and then make his way >slowly and 
>> deliberately to the front of the room and *then* quietly, >coolly 
>> begin his speech.  I know the film was long and they had to >hurry 
>> along what they could, but CC's version lost a lot of >Snape's 
>> gravitas IMO.
> 

>I fully agree with you here. I don't know how those lines are 
>delivered in the original version by Rickman, but in the >German 
>dubbed movie the actor for Snape's voice is slightly huffing >(from 
>rushing into the room)when starting the potion speach. So >from this 
>and from shooting Snape from below you get the impression >there is 
>this slightly overweight guy rushing into the room, because >he is 
>late, and he hasn't time to wait with his lesson to begin, so >he 
>starts to speak while still out of breath. It's devastating >and it 
>actually made me cringe in my seat.


Aaaaah, finally there are people who agree with me about the "Potions Speech" scene- I think it was one of the scenes they botched most thoroughly. Snape of all persons, who takes points away for being late, seems to be late for his own lesson. That's preposterous! He should already have been waiting in the classroom, watching the students enter, waiting until they have all settled down, until there's not a single noise and you could hear a needle drop, waiting a little more until they become really uneasy, and then start his speech. 

I didn't even consider the German version, as I had seen some short clips of it in a TV "making of"- special and was so horrified that I even managed to persuade my mother to see the original version. 

As for Rickman as Snape, he certainly doesn't correspond to the idea I had formed of him in my imagination (that would be a young Jeremy Irons), but I think the voice makes up at least for part of it. The only problem is that a Snape of Rickman's age would merely be a bitter old man, whereas a 35 YO Snape who behaves as he does becomes far more intriguing. Pity they couldn't get Daniel Day-Lewis, I think he would have made a very good Snape.

 

>MMM wrote:
>> The first reaction after the movie was -- what on earth was >Snape 
>> doing, wishing Harry luck?  What was Steve Kloves doing and >has he 
>> really read the book?  Or does he skip the part with Snape >in it?  
>> The scene was jarring and Snape was acting totally OOC.  >>Snape 
>>would 
>> never, ever under any circumstances, wish Harry Potter >>luck.  Would 
>>anyone care to defend that scene?

>I think they had to put it in because they cut out the scene >when 
>Harry surprises Snape and Filch in the staffrooom. In the >movie Harry 
>sees Snape's bleeding leg already in the girl's bathroom. So >they had 
>no scene where the kids saw Snape actually limping. I guess >they came 
>up with the Good-Luck-scene when they figured that the >stretch 
>from 'Snape's pants are ripped' to 'Hey, he is after the >stone' was 
>too much. So IMHO the purpose of that additional scene was >not to 
>show Snape was nice to the kids, but to have a close up how >he was 
>limping away. Why he had to have this ridiculous good luck >line I 
>don't know.


I think it was added to make him more credible as the one who jinxed Harry's broom. Had it been to show he was limping, he could simply have limped out of the girls' bathroom, that would have been sufficient. Anyway, it was a *stupid* line, topped only by the cliché-ed "Quidditch is in your blood" by Hermione.


>I, too, wonder a lot about the cuts and additions in the >movie. After 
>all Steve Kloves and Chris Columbus put much emphasize on how >close 
>they were working with JKR. And there was this interview >where Kloves 
>said he was intruiged how you could tell from Rickman's >acting that 
>he knows all his character's background. Huh?

Sorry to be cynical, but I didn't buy all this "we're working so close together"- stuff for a single minute. I think I already mentioned it in a previous post, so it seems to become my ceterum censeo: When a (desperate) author sells his/her first book, they don't give a damn about the film rights, because they simply don't believe that their book will ever make it to the big screen. I suppose that, after the success of the first books, JKR's contracts and in particular the clause concerning film rights will have dramatically changed. But I'm 100% convinced that she didn't have much to say about the PS/SS film- that demonstration of harmony was mostly for publicity.

Susanna/pigwidgeon37


















  





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