Intro/Movie impressions--Future Composer poll
caliburncy
caliburncy at yahoo.com
Wed Dec 19 19:29:34 UTC 2001
--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "oz_widgeon" <littlered32773 at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "foilgirl_82" <foilgirl_82 at y...> wrote:
> > I was looking forward to the movie so much because I thought it
> > would add something that the books didn't. A different
> > interpretation, maybe? I wasn't expecting a (nearly) carbon copy
> > of the first book and that was a disappointment.
>
> I think it funny that you say this, as most of the gripes have been
> about the movie not following the book closely enough. You should
> read some of the gripes on the hpgalleries boards! I don't think
> I've seen one complaint about it following to book too closely.
> Very intersting!
Actually, if you check some of the earlier messages to the list,
there are several members here who hold a similar view as
foilgirl_82, that the movie was trying too hard to stay close to the
book, and thereby did not make as effective a film in its own right.
Basically, it all comes down to what you expect an adaptation to do.
If you'll forgive the shameless self-plug, I wrote about the
alternate opinions of adaptations in Message #622. For background in
understanding that post, you may want to read my views on the HP film
in particular, which can be found in other earlier messages (search
for "caliburn"). But, yes, foilgirl_82 is not alone. She can join
the club of people who "liked the movie, but thought it worked better
as a good visualization of a book than as a film judged on its own
merits". Sorry, we never came up with a snazzier club nickname.
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Re: The poll about who you would like to see compose the HP movies
starting with GOF
I voted for Hans Zimmer in this, but did so quite reluctantly,
because as I previously stated, I do not really think it makes any
sense whatsoever to have Zimmer do a follow up to Williams. In a
sense, I voted for Zimmer just because it would be neat to see what
would happen under that circumstance (since, as I said, he's
surprised me in the past), not because I'm totally convinced it's the
wisest course of action. If Williams left, and I really was in
charge of the replacement decision, I'm not sure I'd pick Zimmer,
just because his style and Williams style are not that similar at
all, and I'd hate to tell Zimmer "you have to write this score a
little more like John Williams". So there are times when I feel like
cancelling that vote altogether, since I don't really entirely agree
with it, but none of the other options seem obviously better.
See if I was Producer David Heyman, then I would probably just keep
John Williams for as long as he was willing to stay. Not because I
have any great love for Williams (my view on him is "middle of the
road"--I think he is overrated by his diehard fans and underrated by
his detractors), but because I believe in consistency, except where
consistency is blindly followed in such a way that it detracts from
the final product. So I would make some attempt to keep the music
within the films relatively similar, without being redundant (perhaps
more similar in general style and texture than theme or vice versa,
but not both). And I think sticking with one composer makes that
quite possible.
But in the event that Williams backed out, I think I would go with a
lesser known that had some potential. For example, I might write to
a man named Lennie Moore and tell him that he was under consideration
to replace Williams as the composer for HP, but we wanted to see what
he'd do with the score if given the opportunity, so please send us a
demo tape. Based on that HP demo tape, I would determine whether or
not to take him on. Who's Lennie Moore? You've never heard of him?
No, of course, you haven't. In fact, he's not even a film composer.
He composed the music for a computer game called Outcast (performed
by the Moscow Symphony Orchestra and Chorus) which is extremely film
score-esque (in both style and application) and his style bears some
definite similarity to Williams except that Moore hits some much
darker textures, which, it seems to me, is exactly what future HP
movies will need. And since Moore hasn't really come into his own,
he will theoretically be more willing to innovate in some instances,
but also more willing to stick to the ideas that Williams initiated
where necessary. Because his style is already a bit similar to
Williams, I would encourage him to innovate, innovate, innovate
because the consistency with Williams will then just come naturally,
and hence, less formulaic.
Or, if Lennie Moore's HP demo tape was not very promising, I might
take someone better known, but ask them to branch out a bit. Perhaps
Michael Kamen, who can be just as melodic as Williams, and might be
able to follow up in turn, reinterpreting the material already put
forth by Williams and expanding upon it heavily to darken it, but
also using orchestrations that are not so typically Williams. Or
it'd be interesting to find out what Don Davis did with the Jurassic
Park 3 soundtrack in having to follow up to Williams. I haven't
heard it, so I can't say if it's incredibly "blah" and repetitious or
if it might be an indicator that he's a possibility as well. He
definitely has the training, if nothing else.
Most likely the best choice is someone I'm forgetting . . . Hmm . . .
But I just get the feeling that replacing Williams with another big
name like Elfman, Horner, Goldsmith, Zimmer, etc. would suddenly give
us a strikingly different musical palette for future HP movies that
just wouldn't make for a very consistent painting overall.
-Luke
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