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> There are 18 messages in this issue.
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> Topics in this digest:
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> 1. Am I imagining things?
> From: "Joywitch M. Curmudgeon"
> <joym999 at aol.com>
> 2. Re: midnight showing
> From: "Joywitch M. Curmudgeon"
> <joym999 at aol.com>
> 3. Re: facts, oddities, pluses and whines, big
> and small
> From: hp_lexicon at yahoo.com
> 4. Stuff I couldn't help noticing...
> From: nlpnt at yahoo.com
> 5. question about the dorms and # of students
> From: Tara <taradiane at yahoo.com>
> 6. Re: facts, oddities, pluses and whines, big
> and small
> From: tenpinkpiggies at hotmail.com
> 7. Wow...
> From: "Karen " <karen_r_b at hotmail.com>
> 8. Re: Wow...
> From: "Karen " <karen_r_b at hotmail.com>
> 9. Saw it... very mixed feelings...
> From: "Ebony" <ebonyink at hotmail.com>
> 10. SPOILER apologies and chat
> From: "Ebony" <ebonyink at hotmail.com>
> 11. Another random (OT) correction
> From: "Ebony" <ebonyink at hotmail.com>
> 12. Re: facts, oddities, pluses and whines, big
> and small
> From: frantyck at yahoo.com
> 13. Movie Review (long, my apologies)
> From: kris403 at yahoo.com
> 14. offlist from HP-Movie
> From: frantyck at yahoo.com
> 15. Re: offlist from HP-Movie OOPS!
> From: frantyck at yahoo.com
> 16. ADMIN: Spoiler space no longer required
> From: "Neil Ward" <neilward at dircon.co.uk>
> 17. hero of the hour...Rupert Grint
> From: bethyellen at hotmail.com
> 18. Re: facts, oddities, pluses and whines, big
> and small
> From: "Jim Ferer" <jferer at yahoo.com>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 04:55:11 -0000
> From: "Joywitch M. Curmudgeon" <joym999 at aol.com>
> Subject: Am I imagining things?
>
> I saw the movie twice today. The second time around
> I noticed a lot
> of detail that I hadn't noticed the first time, of
> course, and I saw
> something really strange that could just be my
> imagination. In the
> hospital scene towards the end of the movie there
> are a few closeups
> of Dumbledore as he's talking to Harry, and it looks
> to me like
> Dumbledore has a very faint scar on his forehead
> that looks like a
> lightening bolt. Of course, Richard Harris is an
> old man with lots
> of wrinkles so maybe a few of his wrinkles just
> happened to be shaped
> like a lightning bolt, but the fact that it is the
> same size, shape
> and location as Harry's scar is interesting. Of
> course, I could
> easily be imagining things, but if I'm not it opens
> up all sorts of
> interesting plot possibilities.
>
> Joywitch
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 04:59:22 -0000
> From: "Joywitch M. Curmudgeon" <joym999 at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: midnight showing
>
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., hp_lexicon at y... wrote:
> > Well, my wife and I went out and saw the movie at
> midnight last
> > night. I'm taking my kids tonight. It was
> absolutely
> > fantastic...can't wait to see it again. I noticed
> SO many
> incredible
> > magical details--the Leaky Cauldron sign, what
> some of the pictures
> > were doing in the background, the way the door to
> vault 713 opened,
> > etc--and I know I missed at least as many more. I
> didn't catch the
> > date on the Quidditch trophy or any other names.
>
> McGonagall is on one trophy. James Potter is on
> another and I'm
> pretty sure the date is 1972. I noticed also that
> James Potter's
> trophy says he was a Seeker, which directly
> contradicts JKR's
> statement that he was either a Keeper or a Chaser, I
> forget which.
>
> --Joywitch
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 05:17:35 -0000
> From: hp_lexicon at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: facts, oddities, pluses and whines, big
> and small
>
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., frantyck at y... wrote:
> >
> > # It's VoldemorT, not Voldemore.
>
> Let's be clear. It's VoldemorT in the movie. On the
> other hand, JKR
> herself pronounced it Voldemore in an radio
> interview, she advised
> Jim Dale in his pronunciations and he said
> Voldemore, and the
> Scholastic website says Voldemore. The movie version
> is not
> definitive. In a sense, it's like the scar.
> Different people
> interpret it differently.
>
> >
> > # It was RJH King on the Quidditch award in the
> trophy case, not
> RJL.
>
> The McGonagall reference was dated 1971, by the way.
> It seems
> relatively unlikely that this was our dear
> Professor, who was
> already on staff at Hogwarts when James was a
> student in the early
> 70s (reference the conversation in the Three
> Broomsticks in PA).
>
> >
> > # The house numbers on the tables in the Great
> Hall seem closer to
> > Rowling's one thousand than to a logically-derived
> 300 or
> > thereabouts. Better this way.
>
> I've done a fairly good estimate of the number of
> kids in the Great
> Hall scene and it comes out to about 400. That
> tallies with comments
> from Columbus about the production. There are a
> total of 18 teachers
> besides Dumbledore (you can count them as the camera
> pans around
> Daniel in the Sorting Hat scene.) Presumably
> Trelawney does not
> attend, which brings the total number of teachers,
> including
> Dumbledore, to 20.
>
> Steve
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 05:40:48 -0000
> From: nlpnt at yahoo.com
> Subject: Stuff I couldn't help noticing...
>
>
> -Is Dudley going through a preppy phase? The
> clothes Harry wears at
> fist look somewhat more like what's in style for
> middle schoolers
> than what Duddy wears to the zoo.
>
> -Privet Drive must be home to an extremely
> persuasive Vauxhall
> salesman. Everyone has the exact same GM-ish looking
> sedan when Baby
> Harry's dropped off. Ten years later, everyone has
> *new* matching
> wagons- Vauxhall Vectras, I think- in both cases the
> only variation
> is color!
>
> -Baby Harry that gets dropped off is much younger
> looking than Baby
> Harry in the flashback and the photo.
>
> -Names gave a few problems. Harry calling Malfoy
> "Draco" in the
> Forbidden Forest was one thing, but later *that same
> night* Hermione
> says "Voldemort" instead of "You-Know-Who". NOBODY
> but Harry and
> Dumble are supposed to do that in Book I!
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 21:54:39 -0800 (PST)
> From: Tara <taradiane at yahoo.com>
> Subject: question about the dorms and # of students
>
>
> --- hp_lexicon at yahoo.com wrote:
> > I've done a fairly good estimate of the number
> > of kids in the Great
> > Hall scene and it comes out to about 400.
>
> Speaking of student numbers, I have a question.
> We know that in the first year's dorm for
> Gryffindor there are 5 four-poster beds. So can
> we assume there is only 1 first years dorm? The
> reason I ask is that it seems like an awfully
> small number. Can we assume that it is a similar
> number for the second thru seventh years? That
> only makes it 35 students total in Gryffindor,
> give or take a few. Now, if there are supposed
> to be about 400 total, and there's only 4 houses,
> why is there a paltry 5 kids in the first years
> dorm for Gryffindor? Is Gryffindor a hard house
> to get into? I always figured there was a fairly
> even amount in each house, but if we take the
> number of first years in harry's dorm and average
> it out among all 4 houses and all 7 years, that's
> not even 200 students. So what gives? Is my
> math off??
>
> Tara
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 06:15:17 -0000
> From: tenpinkpiggies at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: facts, oddities, pluses and whines, big
> and small
>
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., frantyck at y... wrote:
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> > # What's with the incongruous medieval wimple on
> the nurse (Madam
> > Pomfrey?) in the hospital scene? A bit jarring.
>
> Actually, that wasn't M.Pomfrey, it was just a
> another moving
> painting, no?
>
> -Cornflower O'Shea, who is deeply disappointed she
> didn't get to
> hear Dumbledore say...
>
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> "NITWIT! BLUBBER! ODDMENT! TWEAK!" - Albus
> Dumbledore
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 07:11:51 -0000
> From: "Karen " <karen_r_b at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Wow...
>
> All I can say, is wow. Such an amazing movie.
> Visually stunning -
> Quidditch and Diagon Alley were sooo well done.
> Everyone cheered at
> the end of the Quidditch match. The actors were
> spectacular -
> especially Emma Watson, Robbie Coltrain and Rick
> Harris (think I got
> that right - Hermione, Hagrid and Snape). They had
> their characters
> spot on. Emma was the perfect little know-it-all at
> the beginning,
> and Snape is the guy you love to hate. I personally
> plan on seeing it
> over and over and over again - and not only for Sean
> Biggerstaff
> either (I have a new Oliver Wood fetish, but who can
> blame me?)
>
> To repeat myself - Wow. To all those who are
> doubting the ability of
> the movie to live up to the standards that the book
> set, go see it.
> You'll be pleasantly surprised. A few bits are left
> out, or smooshed
> together, but at 2.5 hours, it couldn't have gotten
> any longer, could
> it?
>
> Go see it! I'm still in shock :-)
> Karen
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 07:17:57 -0000
> From: "Karen " <karen_r_b at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Wow...
>
> Ok, so I know that I got some of the actor's names
> wrong, but in my
> excitement, I just typed without thinking. You can
> forgive me, can't
> you? Thought so!
>
> Karen
> *waiting until she gets to see it again*
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 07:26:55 -0000
> From: "Ebony" <ebonyink at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Saw it... very mixed feelings...
>
> I am sure that we'll be nitpicking and dissecting at
> least from now
> until Christmas. :-D
>
> It's very late-- 2 a.m.--and three and a half hours
> ago I came out of
> the theater after seeing the movie for the first
> time.
>
> And honestly, I am not sure *what* to think. I have
> extremely mixed
> feelings, so I am not going to write a
> scene-by-scene and point-by-
> point review until after I see it once more tomorrow
> (I had Friday
> and Saturday tix).
>
> Lots of general thoughts, but the overarching one
> was that the pacing
> was way off. It dragged. It was disjointed. The
> couple next to me
> left. The movie was so long that my youngest
> sister, who usually
> likes movies like this, fell asleep.
>
> I had to spend a great deal of time post-movie
> explaning to the other
> sister all the connections that were left out...
> "why did that girl
> (Hermione) go hide in the bathroom?" "Is there
> anything Harry can't
> do? Is anything hard for him? Does he ever fail,
> or is he just
> lucky?" "What was all that stuff they were
> muttering in the spells?
> What do all the spells do?" "What was up with that
> Snape guy? I
> didn't get him." "What was up with that boy who
> kept blowing things
> up? No, not Neville... yeah, Seamus! That's the
> one! What's up
> with him!" All in all, she loved the movie and says
> she wants to get
> the DVD ASAP... and she thought I was being way too
> nitpicky. *shrug*
>
> Lots more thoughts, as I've said... but I must say
> that the kids
> didn't bother me all that much. I definitely don't
> agree with Barb's
> Hermione issues. At all. I think that Emma Watson,
> while perhaps
> not the absolute best casting pick for the
> character, was one of the
> very *least* of this movie's concerns. And dear
> ones, I am very
> concerned.
>
> You see, I think that a really good book-movie ought
> to inspire a
> person to actually go out and read the book. Case
> in point: I found
> my favorite writer at age 2, Lucy Maud Montgomery,
> through the first
> two Anne of Green Gables miniseries. But after
> tonight, I am glad
> that I am already a Harry Potter fan. I attended
> the movie with
> another rabid fan and four people who'd never read
> the books. The
> other rabid fan loved it. I've described my
> sisters' reactions. The
> other two had similar thoughts afterwards: cool
> movie, perhaps a bit
> too long, will get the DVD... but still have no real
> interest in
> reading the books and don't understand where all the
> passion and
> rabid fandom comes from.
>
> Oh, well. There's always CoS. ;-)
>
> Disclaimer: This is my reaction right now. Perhaps
> tomorrow's
> viewing will make me reverse my opinion completely.
> I sincerely hope
> so.
>
> --Eb (who, for the record, did enjoy Quidditch!)
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 07:30:12 -0000
> From: "Ebony" <ebonyink at hotmail.com>
> Subject: SPOILER apologies and chat
>
> Sorry for the last message... I had no spoiler space
> there. I hope I
> didn't ruin things for anyone. Guess that's what
> happens when you go
> online instead of going to bed at 2 a.m.
>
> To bring this back to the topic, is anyone
> interested in a special
> movie chat on Saturday? I am not sure I can wait
> until Sunday to
> discuss this!
>
> --Eb
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 07:43:29 -0000
> From: "Ebony" <ebonyink at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Another random (OT) correction
>
> "Case in point: I found my favorite writer at age
> 2, Lucy Maud
> Montgomery, through the first two Anne of Green
> Gables miniseries."
>
> That should be 12, not 2. I'm good but not *that*
> good.
>
> Sheesh. I *really* should have gone to sleep before
> posting,
> shouldn't I have? Perhaps all the extreme
> nitpicking (which is
> really OOC for me) is due to sleep deprivation.
>
> So tomorrow if you get a glowing five-star review of
> the movie from
> me, don't think I'm wishy-washy, okay? :-D
>
> --Eb
>
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 07:56:17 -0000
> From: frantyck at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: facts, oddities, pluses and whines, big
> and small
>
> s
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>
> A bunch of responses to responses.
>
> Genevieve said:
> "I agree that Daniel wasn't extrordinarily
> expressive all the time,
> but I think that is more the character than the
> actor."
>
> Yes and no, I'd say. My experience of and reaction
> to the film is
> subjective, but I didn't really get the sense of
> Daniel being in
> control of his role. One knows when
> emotions/reactions are being
> shown honestly, because the actor must imagine
> himself or herself
> into a state something like that which he/she is
> trying to portray.
> It rings true when you, as part of the audience,
> recognise emotion,
> at some level apart from your cerebral cortex.
> Daniel-Harry is faced
> with some immensely moving and difficult moments,
> but really, apart
> from rearranging his face, Daniel doesn't convey
> even suppressed
> emotion very well. Convincing representation goes
> beyond facial
> expression to the rest of the body -- and then much
> deeper than
> that. An effective actor seeks to evoke or remind
> the individual
> members of the audience of some powerful emotion,
> whose eddies the
> involved audience will feel.
>
> Daniel is a kid, I know. He has the most challenging
> part in the
> movie: how to show turbulent feelings that even he
> does not quite
> understand without excessive dramatics. Rupert Grint
> and the adult,
> more accomplished, actors in the cast have a
> relatively
> straightforward task. Precisely because Harry has to
> show so much
> while doing so little, I'm a little disappointed.
> The movie thus
> focuses on the plot rather than the much tougher and
> more important
> thread (in the long term) of Harry's conflicting
> emotions and
> personal growth... high thrill and great sadness.
>
> Take for instance his reactions to pain in his scar.
> Surely you
> wouldn't look at him and know that Dan-Harry is
> experiencing
> physical pain beyond any he has experienced so far.
> And pain is not
> the hardest of sensations to depict.
>
> There are some effective moments, though, such as
> the chess task,
> when he realises Ron must sacrifice himself, and
> when he crashes to
> the ground. When Harry leaves the hospital wing and
> sees his two
> best friends on the staircase, that's moving too. At
> the end of the
> movie, the departure from the station is not bad,
> but Dan-Harry's
> reaction to the photo album... where's the hunger?
>
>
> VoldemorT or Voldemore, Steve sticks with Voldemore:
>
> I wasn't making a Final Case for the T version. Just
> pointing out in
> some perplexity that the movie chose the apparently
> non-Rowling
> pronunciation. I was very surprised. I do prefer the
> T, being an
> Italian speaker myself, but.
>
> Steve cited the Scholastic pronunciations as
> part-proof of the non-T
> Voldemort. Personally, and not entirely relevantly,
> I think the
> Scholastic rendering of some words is pretty awful.
> 'Accio' is
> pronounced AH-see-oh?? Not in Latin it isn't.
> Ah-VA-da ke-DA-vra?
> Does that possess any punch at all? Sounds like
> 'Wingardium
> leviosa.' The Beauxbatons pronunciation would make
> any rudimentary
> French-speaker's nerves stick out two inches and
> curl at the ends.
> It is for an American readership. Surely it isn't
> the last word, no
> more than Warner Bros' use of VoldemorT should be.
>
>
> Cornflower O'Shea on the medieval wimple. It wasn't
> in the painting,
> actually (thought that painting was a very clever
> touch). A woman
> does walk across the background briefly, wearing the
> wimple.
>
>
> Luke, who wields Caliburn against my use of
> episodicity:
> "Though several people have mused on this, I think I
> find the
> prospects somewhat doubtful. Why? Because unlike
> what you said,
> the books *aren't* truly episodic. A truly episodic
> work is one in
> which every event stands to more or less on its
> own--meaning it has
> its very own conflict and resolution that is
> completely seperate
> from any larger plot. You could do just one scene
> and have it make
> a *rounded* story by itself. In episodic works, the
> overall
> continuity is not one of plot, but of theme. Beyond
> theme, the tie
> between the individual episodes is so loose its
> virtually non-
> existant."
>
> This is a bit literal... I used the wrong word
> there. I did not
> *literally* mean that wholly self-contained episodes
> should be
> carved out of the HP books. What I mean is that to
> fill the need for
> a thorough and unhurried exposition of the books in
> film, one could
> make use of a series rather than an
> unsatisfactory-in-some-ways two-
> and-a-half hour film. One *can* split the books
> along chapter lines,
> because it seems to me that each chapter is built
> about one event or
> important stage in the story. Like _I, Claudius_,
> only better.
>
>
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 08:13:37 -0000
> From: kris403 at yahoo.com
> Subject: Movie Review (long, my apologies)
>
> It's two in the morning, and I'm to giddy to
> sleep... For the
> record, I saw it twice in one day, and I loved it
> even more the
> second time around. Of course it's not the book,
> but it helps
> clarify some of the images that were not crisp
> before.
>
>
>
> 1. Absolutely loved quidditch! Wow! Fast paced
> and I finally got
> a good feel for what it was supposed to look like.
> I always had a
> hard time imagining it for some reason with the
> books.
>
> 2. Alan Rickman and the other adult characters :)
> were fabulous. I
> was a little disappionted with Dumbledore, not
> because of the
> acting, but that they cut out all the really great
> lines that show
> his sense of humor. I guess they cut those lines
> for time, but it
> made Dumbledore seem OOC in the end.
>
> 3. Rupert stole the show. In one night I became an
> R/H fan because
> I absolutely loved the way he portrayed Ron. He
> also had the best
> lines in the movie. The chess scene was amazing and
> the fear in his
> eyes was perfect.
>
> 4. Emma, I thought was adorable. Yes, she could be
> annoying at
> times, but remember, that is supposed to be her
> character. I didn't
> like her bathroom troll scene line though. That one
> could have been
> more believable.
>
> 5. Dan was excellent. At first I didn't think so,
> but my friend
> and I talked about it and he played his part very
> well. We've read
> through Book 4, and most of us are wrapped up in
> fanfiction. Book
> 4, and most of FF tend to portray Harry as the hero
> (which he is),
> but he's starting to come into his own. He feels
> more secure in the
> wizarding world and what he is supposed to do. We
> need to remember
> that PS Harry is a scared little boy who is in a
> complete new
> world. I think he did that very well.
>
> 6. Tom Felton was outstanding as Draco. He was the
> perfect spoiled
> brat and had great facial expressions to go with it.
>
> Plusses:
> 1. Quidditch (but I already said that)
>
> 2. Interesting insights to what MIGHT be going on
> in JKR's head. I
> never believed the theory that Petunia was a squib
> until I saw the
> movie. The way her lines where worded and delivered
> makes me a firm
> believer now. Susan Bones was one of the few chosen
> to be sorted on
> screen. I wonder if this will be important (as chat
> has seemed to
> imply that she will be important later on). I also
> noticed how much
> Voldemort emphasized the fact he wanted Harry to
> JOIN him, and that
> together they could bring back his parents (or
> something to that
> effect). I'm curious on if this provides some
> insights to what may
> come in the future.
>
> 3. Set design, costumes, etc. It just helps me to
> picture it more
> in my head. I absolutely loved checking out all the
> details the
> second time around. The pictures in the background
> (yes, I noticed
> the painting in the hospital wing... and what was up
> with Madam
> Pomfrey?), the signs in Diagon Alley, all of those
> things made it
> very fun.
>
> 4. The chess match and the troll were wonderfully
> done IMO.
>
> Negatives:
> 1. The ending. Dumbledore didn't seem to clearly
> explain what had
> happened. He never explained Snape, and it just
> didn't clarify the
> plot.
>
> 2. I didn't mind them having to give the characters
> different
> lines, but I, too, was bothered when they cut
> wonderful quotes to
> insert ones that were very weak. While I loved
> Hermione's
> response, "That thing has a name!" Draco Malfoy
> really needed to
> make the comment about the Weasley's not having
> money and more
> children than they could afford.
>
> Along with that. Did anyone else catch the quotes
> from the book
> that no longer sounded right? For example: When
> Hagrid goes to the
> hut on the rock and Vernon yells, "I've told you,
> he's not going!"
> It was great in the book because there was a whole
> dialog before,
> but in the movie, when did Vernon tell him the first
> time? I
> noticed it again at the end when the Centar told
> Harry, "This is
> where I leave you" (I know I probably misquoted
> that), but the
> point is in the movie, they never went anywhere.
> That line wasn't a
> big deal but it could have been changed a little to
> make it flow a
> little better. Little lines like that made the
> movie seem jarring
> at times.
>
> 3. I wasn't particularly fond of the centar.
>
> 4. I don't think that the trio's friendship (or
> lack of with
> Hermione) was clearly defined. It all seemed to run
> together. The
> same went for Neville's relationship with them and
> how everyone
> treated them when they lost all those house points.
>
>
>
> hmmm.. I'll stop complaining now. I will say, while
> I picked it
> apart, I absolutely loved it, and I'm sure I will go
> see it a few
> more times. I wasn't disappionted in the least. I
> just wish they
> had more time they could devote to the film.
>
> Kris
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 08:14:30 -0000
> From: frantyck at yahoo.com
> Subject: offlist from HP-Movie
>
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., dracos_boyfriend at y...
> wrote:
> > By the way. This may never get off the ground,
> but I would like
> to
> > have a go at re-writing a 'perfect' screenplay
> based on some of
> the
> > comments here, and would like to gauge the group's
> interest in
> such
> > an idea.
> >
> > Al
>
>
>
> This is a good idea, Al. If you get this going, let
> me know. I've
> got major papers due over the next month and a half,
> but after that
> I have a month to devote to literary recreation! (I
> hope!)
>
> Rrishi
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 08:16:14 -0000
> From: frantyck at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: offlist from HP-Movie OOPS!
>
> Sorry, sorry, sorry. The previous message was due to
> a silly
> premature click on the 'send' button.
>
> Argh.
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 16
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 08:42:48 -0000
> From: "Neil Ward" <neilward at dircon.co.uk>
> Subject: ADMIN: Spoiler space no longer required
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Just flew in to confirm that spoiler space is no
> longer required on this
> list. HURRAH! You can throw your hats in the air
> if you like, but don't
> blame me if you can't tell which one's yours when
> they land.
>
> Magically yours,
>
> Flying Ford Anglia...
>
> ... who saw the film twice yesterday, having already
> seen it in previews
> last Saturday, and slept through most of the third
> session. Aren't cinema
> seats so extremely comfy these days?
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 09:57:39 -0000
> From: bethyellen at hotmail.com
> Subject: hero of the hour...Rupert Grint
>
> The cast were all excellent, but Rupert was just
> fantastic as Ron. I
> thought he really brought out his sarcastic wit!
> From the momment he
> started eating everything on the train, to when he
> was playing the
> chess game, I just thought he was outstanding, At
> first, I wasn't too
> sure about him, he wasn't how I had pictured Ron,
> but now I'm a big
> fan!!!I know the 3 heroes are only signed up for the
> first 2 movies.
> but I hope their contracts are exteneded to the
> rest!
>
> Beth
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 12:24:24 -0000
> From: "Jim Ferer" <jferer at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: facts, oddities, pluses and whines, big
> and small
>
> Jenny:"I agree that some of the humor that we love
> so in the
> books was lacking in the film - "Are you a witch or
> what?" is one of
> the best lines, and Dumbledore's sock comment is
> noticeably missing.
> Neville's plight could have expanded on a bit more,
> as his 10 point
> award is such a treat in the book because we know
> how hard everything
> is for him."
>
> Even at 153 minutes, there wasn't time to develop a
> lot of things. I
> was diappointed how fast things whizzed by - Diagon
> Alley, the twins,
> Neville, classes - and I don't blame Chris Columbus
> or anybody else.
> It was bold enough to make the movie as long as it
> was. We can't ask
> for more. It just shows the limitations of the movie
> medium when
> adapting a book so rich in detail.
>
> Except for the Trio and perhaps Dumbledore,
> everybody else in the
> movie was a bit player.
>
> Like you, I was hoping for the "Are you a witch or
> not!?" line from Ron.
>
>
>
>
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>
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