Penny & Barb's comments

[cassandraclaire73 at yahoo.com]

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Barb" <blpurdom at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Penny & Bryce <pennylin at s...> wrote:
>   
> > EMMA -- Sorry, Barb, but I have to disagree strongly.  I liked 
> > her.  We have to remember that PS/SS Hermione is bossy & a know-
it- all.  She's supposed to be grating.  

*nods* I liked Emma, too. I didn't think she was overacting any more 
than Rupert was.
> 
> I snipped a bunch of your comments about H/H because they frankly 
> baffled me.  I only noticed one fairly clear H/H moment, which I'll 
> get to.  The chess scene struck me as inarguably R/H, especially 
> since Hermione's first impulse was to run to Ron as soon as he 
fell.  n a way, the book was far more H/H in that the two of them 
left Ron  nd continued on after that (since she was needed to solve 
the  ptions problem).  Her speech to Harry about being a great wizard 
> made my teeth hurt, it was so bad.

Well, I'm equally baffled about that R/H chess scene argument. The 
fact that Hermione wanted to run towards Ron after a huge chessman 
smashed him to the ground indicates nothing to me beyond normal 
horror and concern. Harry's the one who screamed "RON!" and I don't 
think that means much either. The fact that Hermione took the time to 
to deliver the whole "great wizard" speech to Harry over Ron's inert 
and slighly twitching body was IMHO more significant, insomuch as any 
of it was significant. I happened to see the movie first with a bunch 
of press people and on Friday with a bunch of people who had read no 
further than book 1 -- every single one that I spoke to thought that 
the chess scene meant that they were setting up a future H/H pairing. 
My friend Karen pointed out how Hermione looks at Harry throughout 
the entire great wizard speech, then follows him out of the room with 
her eyes without looking back at the wounded Ron even once. She 
thought it was in fact rather heartless; I had to explain that in 
canon, the speech is delivered in another room without Ron actually 
present. 

 "The beginning of the scene was where I did see the one clear 
> possible (note the word POSSIBLE) H/H moment: Upon realizing that 
> Hermione didn't know about the troll, it was Harry who was 
concerned  about her safety.  But I doubt he would have reacted 
differently if   it were some other student.  He's just being Hero 
Harry here, more  concerned about others than himself."

When they sit down to dinner before the troll incident, it is HARRY 
who asks Neville "Where is Hermione?" Ron has not even noticed that 
Hermione is not there. This is not Harry being heroic, IMHO. When 
Neville tells Harry that Parvati reported that Hermione has been 
crying in the bathroom all day, Harry looks at Ron with a stricken 
expression. Ron shrugs, which to me looked like an "Oh well, 
whatever" shrug. Harry is concerned about Hermione before the troll 
business; Ron isn't.

"It just happens to be Hermione  who's in peril.  And remember, it's 
actually Ron who saves her (and  Harry) by levitating the troll's 
club using the charm that Hermione   was coaching him on (he was 
sitting next to her in Charms, too, or   is did that escape your 
notice, Penny?)."

And Harry was sitting next to Hermione in Potions. Does seating 
arrangement mean anything? When Hermione is under the sink and 
screams "Help me!" for the first time, it is HARRY who pulls out his 
wand and throws himself at the troll to try to save her. It isn't 
until Harry himself is in danger that Ron actually pulls off his 
Wingardium Leviosa spell. Maybe you're right about the Ron/Harry 
shippiness, cos that's all I'm seeing here.
"

"Now you've really lost me.  Did you not notice that Ron and Hermione 
> were hanging out alone together?"

Well, neither of them have any other friends....Penny is referring to 
the way Hermione beams at Harry and says, "Never better!" My non-HP 
friends noticed that too, BTW, although as far as H/H moments go that 
didn't do much of anything for me. 

 
Cassandra