My late comments
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Thu Nov 22 04:44:46 UTC 2001
--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Elizabeth Dalton <Elizabeth.Dalton at E...>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I saw the movie Sunday afternoon with my 7-year-old daughter and my
> mother-in-law, who's probably about sixty. My daughter hasn't read
the books
> (she's just starting to read, but she's also only been speaking
English for
> about a year-- long story). My MIL has read and enjoyed all the
books. I read
> them this summer for the first time-- I've probably read them about
3 times
> each, at this point. (I sometimes only read parts of them on re-
reads, so it's a
> little hard to estimate this.)
>
> After logging into this group, I ploughed through the archives.
Well, everything
> since Friday, anyway. :) Not much left to say that hasn't already
been said, but
> here are the few points I'd like to make:
>
> First, I guess I'm alone in this, but the altered confrontation
between Harry
> and Voldemort/Quirrell really bothered me when I saw it. Where was
the point
> about Lily's sacrifice? What's this nonsense about bringing James
and Lily back
> to life??? I can see that having Quirrell crumble to dust was more
cinematic
> than blisters, but Harry doesn't come across as nearly as brave
without the
> issue of the pain from his scar (don't ask me how they would have
shown this,
> though). And though I didn't realize this was bugging me until I
read the
> comments here, it bothers me that he ends up purposely killing
Quirrell. It *is*
> OOC. And I guess I really am the only one to complain about this
item: I don't
> think Voldemort should have been able to swoop through Harry like
that at the
> end of the fight. For Pete's sake, he's not supposed to be able to
*touch*
> Harry. What kind of sense does it make for him to be able to attack
him directly
> this way? But I suppose Rowling must have ok'd the change, and I do
admit the
> whole thing was more dramatic than the "deus ex Dumbledore" book
scene.
>
> Second, I think it weakened the story considerably to have all the
other
> characters addressing Voldemort by name. Hagrid whispers it once
and then after
> that things just go on as if it doesn't matter at all. That takes
out a lot of
> the impact of confronting him directly at the end. Of course, if
they'd done it
> properly, they'd have had to leave in the scene where Dumbledore
tells Harry to
> use the proper name. (Like many here, I felt Dumbledore especially
got chopped
> up in the dialogue department.) But of all things, to leave out the
bit where
> Harry rants at Ron and Hermione about what it was like when
Voldemort was
> around, Ron getting more and more upset at the way Harry uses the
name so
> casually.... Then again, that is one of my favorite scenes. We all
have them,
> don't we?
>
> Third (but this has been discussed to death), I think they really
underplayed
> Snape, his actions, motivations, history, etc. He's easily the most
intriguing
> character from my point of view. Rickman did a great job with the
few scenes he
> had (enough for me to forgive him for not being as thin as I've
imagined Snape
> to be), but he didn't have enough airtime, and then to leave out
Dumbledore's
> explanation for Snape's animosity... unforgiveable!
>
> Overall, I agree with comments that have been made about taking out
original
> lines to put in lesser lines, especially in how that affected the
humor. I also
> think that while the beginning and middle showed the effect of
compressing the
> story somewhat, the ending took the most damage. There's a lot to
fit in there,
> to set up for the later stories, and I think they left too much
out. I can't see
> how they'll be able to do PoA, let alone GoF (unless the rumor is
true and they
> go for two movies for GoF).
>
> But the acting was quite good, the casting was good, and I thought
most of the
> effects were decent. (I particularly liked the entrance to Diagon
Alley. I'm
> trying to forget about the centaur and the unicorn.) The kids did a
really great
> job, all things considered. Even if they did always look made-up,
and the
> crinkle tool they used on Hermione's hair was kind of obvious. It
really helped
> me to see the relative sizes of the kids, especially in the
Quidditch match, to
> understand why it is such a big deal to have a first-year playing
on the
> Gryffindor team. I can only imagine that the CGI editing I'd heard
they planned
> to use for Harry's eyes just didn't work out in time. No matter.
That glare he
> gave Dudley in the zoo didn't need any tinkering.
>
> Given that so many of you have reported liking it better on a
second viewing, I
> think I'll see if I can fit that in at some point. And I do hope
there's a DVD
> with plenty of extras. I don't know if that four-hour director's
cut really
> exists, but I know we saw stuff in the trailer that didn't make it
into the
> movie (e.g. the reminder not to use magic in the corridors), so
hopefully a less
> cut version would be... well... less cut up. :)
>
> Happy nitpicking, everyone,
>
> Elizabeth
>
> (...who likes Rickman well enough, but has her own ideas about the
Snape she'd
> like to invite in for a cup of tea and a bit of cheering up. Poor
misunderstood
> fellow.)
Now that is the very kind of thing I wish to read more of. How people
felt about the movie,etc. Well put,I dare say. I am in agreement with
you. Chris
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