From footloose_84 at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  3 06:23:49 2002
From: footloose_84 at yahoo.com (footloose_84)
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 06:23:49 -0000
Subject: Any pics floating around of Maggie and Daniel at the Oscars?
In-Reply-To: <a858d2+4t5d@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <a8e75l+pql3@eGroups.com>


DOES ANYBODY HAVE OR KNOW THE LINK TO THE CLIP IN QUICKTIME OR 
WINDOWS MEDIA? I'LL BE WAITING 4 YR NEWS!!! THANKS!!!


--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "River3_98" <ITZregina at h...> wrote:
> Maggie was there, but Daniel was on a short video clip talking 
about 
> his favorite movie.
> 
> Gina




From DaveH47 at mindspring.com  Wed Apr  3 21:05:39 2002
From: DaveH47 at mindspring.com (Dave Hardenbrook)
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 13:05:39 -0800
Subject: HP DVD -- Commentary?
In-Reply-To: <1017862762.2017.80039.m12@yahoogroups.com>
References: <1017862762.2017.80039.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <196143659103.20020403130539@mindspring.com>

Has anyone here heard whether the DVD will include a
"Commentary" track, and if so, by whom?  I know it's usually done by
the director, but I've been listening to the "Commentary" on the
_Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory_ DVD by the five actors who
played the Wonka kids.  It was a lot of fun to hear their comments,
and I was thinking that "Commentary" by Daniel, Rupert, and Emma would
be a lot better than 2 1/2 hours of Chris Columbus patting himself
on the back.  What do you all think?

-- 
Dave




From voicelady at mymailstation.com  Wed Apr  3 21:58:10 2002
From: voicelady at mymailstation.com (the_voicelady)
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 21:58:10 -0000
Subject: HP DVD -- Commentary?
In-Reply-To: <196143659103.20020403130539@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <a8ftti+9vuk@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Dave Hardenbrook <DaveH47 at m...> wrote:
> Has anyone here heard whether the DVD will include a
> "Commentary" track, and if so, by whom?  

Sorry, Dave - no commentary for this dvd.  What is included under 
special features are: Theatrical Trailer, Additional Footage, 
Interviews, Interactive Games, DVD-ROM Features, Interactive Menus, 
Scene Access.

I'm hoping that it will be re-released in November as s special 
edition that *will* have commentary.  IMO, the commentaries are 
usually the best part of any dvd.

Jeralyn




From ITZregina at hanson.net  Mon Apr  8 19:52:21 2002
From: ITZregina at hanson.net (River3_98)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 19:52:21 -0000
Subject: Daniels name removed from YAA awards?
Message-ID: <a8ssdl+2od8@eGroups.com>

Found on Leaky Cauldron:


"Emma Watson has won a Young Artists Award for Best Performance in a 
Feature Film (Leading Young Actress). Also, for those who were 
wondering where Daniel Radcliffe's name went (as he was nominated in 
several categories), a spokesperson from the Young Artists Awards 
told us that "Daniel's representative's asked for his name to be 
removed."'


Why would they want to remove his name??

Gina




From Ali at zymurgy.org  Wed Apr 10 13:30:59 2002
From: Ali at zymurgy.org (alhewison)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 13:30:59 -0000
Subject: Daniels name removed from YAA awards?
In-Reply-To: <a8ssdl+2od8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <a91eqj+89hs@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "River3_98" <ITZregina at h...> wrote:
> Found on Leaky Cauldron:
> 
> 
> "Emma Watson has won a Young Artists Award for Best Performance in 
a 
> Feature Film (Leading Young Actress). Also, for those who were 
> wondering where Daniel Radcliffe's name went (as he was nominated 
in 
> several categories), a spokesperson from the Young Artists Awards 
> told us that "Daniel's representative's asked for his name to be 
> removed."'
> 
> 
> Why would they want to remove his name??
> 

I read on another news group that his father was concerned about the 
paedophile interest in this particular award ceremony, and hence 
didn't want his son to get any unwelcome attention.

I thought that was really sad. They're only kids, but all the 
adulation and interest in their lives must be very hard to deal with. 
Then if you get sick interest on top of that... I only hope that 
Daniel and the others will still be able to experience relatively 
normal childhoods/adolescence.

Ali




From ComtessadeChats at cs.com  Wed Apr 10 14:18:07 2002
From: ComtessadeChats at cs.com (ComtessadeChats at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:18:07 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Daniels name removed from YAA awards?
Message-ID: <109.1098941b.29e5a39f@cs.com>

In a message dated 4/8/02 1:53:28 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
ITZregina at hanson.net writes:

> Why would they want to remove his name??
>  

  So as not to create competition for Emma.  Its a very classy thing for an 
axctor to do! Go Daniel!

   ~~~LYSA~~~




From ITZregina at hanson.net  Thu Apr 11 13:52:34 2002
From: ITZregina at hanson.net (River3_98)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:52:34 -0000
Subject: Will we miss Zoe and Cleese?
Message-ID: <a944f2+1lov@eGroups.com>

"Thanks the multiple readers that sent this in: Countingdown.com has 
posted a link to Sunday Express article which confirmed that Zoe 
Wanamaker is out of Harry Potter 2. [If anyone was wondering why this 
wasn't posted a week ago, it's because it was not confirmed] 
Mischa N on 4/10/2002 11:19:48 PM |  
 
   
"It seems the part of Nearly Headless Nick in "Harry Potter and the 
Chamber of Secrets" won't be any bigger, if even as big, as it was 
in "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone." 

According to an interview in the Calgary Sun, John Cleese shot down 
speculation his part as the big screen Nick would increase in the 
second go-around. "I think my participation is going to be minimal, 
but I'm still extremely happy to be part of it," Cleese said. "The 
kids are just wonderful." 

**********************

There goes the Deathday party, Peeves getting Harry out of trouble 
with Filch. How will we find out Filch is a squib?  Who will referee 
the quidditch game?  

                                                                      
     Gina





From irene_mikhlin at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 11 23:16:31 2002
From: irene_mikhlin at yahoo.com (irene_mikhlin)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 23:16:31 -0000
Subject: Will we miss Zoe and Cleese?
In-Reply-To: <a944f2+1lov@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <a955gf+ugs3@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "River3_98" <ITZregina at h...> wrote:

> There goes the Deathday party, Peeves getting Harry out of trouble 
> with Filch. How will we find out Filch is a squib?  Who will 
referee 
> the quidditch game?  

Hm, Snape? :-)

The girl can dream, no?

Irene




From deadstop at gte.net  Fri Apr 12 00:26:30 2002
From: deadstop at gte.net (Stacy Stroud)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 20:26:30 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Digest Number 186
In-Reply-To: <1018555083.1198.31865.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020411202414.00ac0830@mail.gte.net>

At 07:58 PM 4/11/2002 +0000, Lysa wrote:

>In a message dated 4/8/02 1:53:28 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
>ITZregina at hanson.net writes:
>
>> Why would they want to remove his name??
>>  
>
>  So as not to create competition for Emma.  Its a very classy thing for an 
>axctor to do! Go Daniel!


Er, Emma won for Leading Young Actress, didn't she?  Daniel clearly would not have been in competition for that award.  I assume he was up for Leading Young Actor.

If he had been up for the Newcomer award against Rupert, then stepping down would have been classy, but Dan's not a "newcomer," is he?  He's had screen roles before.


Stacy Stroud (deadstop at gte.net)
Hex Entertainment, Inc. (http://www.hexgames.com)




From Joanne0012 at aol.com  Fri Apr 12 12:10:38 2002
From: Joanne0012 at aol.com (joanne0012)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 12:10:38 -0000
Subject: Will we miss Zoe and Cleese?
In-Reply-To: <a944f2+1lov@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <a96iru+2ec1@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "River3_98" <ITZregina at h...> wrote:
>  Who will referee 
> the quidditch game?  
>

Could still be Madame Hooch; just because they got rid of Wanamaker doesn't 
mean they're eliminated her character.  Wanamaker only signed for the first film 
and then made a huge, unseemly stink about actors' pay and residuals; I would 
actually have been surprised to see her face in any HP film ever again!

Anyway, she's an American, so now the cast is more purely British!




From betsyfallon at hotmail.com  Fri Apr 12 19:54:06 2002
From: betsyfallon at hotmail.com (betsyfallon)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 19:54:06 -0000
Subject: CoS - Name Change
Message-ID: <a97e0u+bokf@eGroups.com>

If you go to the Leaky Cauldron, you will see a link to a site that 
talks about CoS.

The individual talks about a name change:

"Now I'm glad to say I can finally bring you some fresh material from 
the other side of the pond. The second Harry Potter film, "The 
Chamber of Secrets" (likely American title: "The Room of Secrets") is 
shooting right now at Christ Church College, Oxford."

Do you think this change is possible? It doesn't make any sense to me 
to re-name the title of the film. The publisher didn't change the 
title of the book for American readers. I think most viewers know the 
difference between a room and a chamber.  Any comments?

Betsy








From ravenclaw775 at aol.com  Fri Apr 12 21:12:30 2002
From: ravenclaw775 at aol.com (ravenclaw775 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 17:12:30 EDT
Subject: Hooch/Zoe
Message-ID: <12e.fbc17fd.29e8a7be@aol.com>

I hope they don't recast Hooch - it's will look completely lame to have a new 
actress (I don't care what she said about the pay in the papers - to be 
honest, the children especially did get ripped off by the producers - but 
then again, that's what producers do!)  She's a wonderful actress - I have 
had the pleasure of seeing her live as well as in films.  I greatly admire 
her.  

So she's a U.S. citizen. She lives in the UK and got an  "honorary" Birthday 
Honour (C.B.E.).  When I met her she spoke to me in a British accent, 
although in the play, she acted in an American one.  Even if it is Chris 
Columbus' will, it's almost Voldemort-ian to have to keep the cast "pure and 
British." (I get these images of people going back through an actor's life 
and developing a "One Drop" rule)  I hope no Canadian or Australian citizens 
try to sneak in there.  :-P 
--
C



From caithness01 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 12 21:35:02 2002
From: caithness01 at yahoo.com (Mary Korth)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 14:35:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: will we miss zoe and cleese?
In-Reply-To: <1018634231.258.92339.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20020412213502.4521.qmail@web14704.mail.yahoo.com>


> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "River3_98"
> <ITZregina at h...> wrote:
> >  Who will referee 
> > the quidditch game?  
> >
> 

In the first movie, the one thing that bothered me
about quidditch was that Madam hooch was nowhere to be
found.  Gryffindor kept getting fouled by slytherin
and there were no penalties.  The only thing that
Wanamaker did in that scene, at least in the final
cut, was release the balls and say, "Now I want a nice
fair game, all of you."  or something on that order. 
Wouldn't be too hard to trim that little bit of
refereeing down to nothing.

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From Joanne0012 at aol.com  Fri Apr 12 21:37:11 2002
From: Joanne0012 at aol.com (joanne0012)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 21:37:11 -0000
Subject: Hooch/Zoe
In-Reply-To: <12e.fbc17fd.29e8a7be@aol.com>
Message-ID: <a97k27+2apf@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., ravenclaw775 at a... wrote:
> I don't care what she said about the pay in the papers - to be 
> honest, the children especially did get ripped off by the producers - but 
> then again, that's what producers do!

Zoe is a seasoned professional whose dad was a producer.  If she thought the 
pay was inadequate, she shouldn't have accepted it.  IMHO, it's inappropriate to 
sign a contract agreeing to a certain rate of pay and then bitch about it.




From helanne at start.com.au  Sun Apr 14 09:12:57 2002
From: helanne at start.com.au (~Helen ~)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 17:12:57 +0800
Subject: CoS - Name Change
Message-ID: <B1516989000@i01sv4138.ids1.intelonline.com>

>   From: "betsyfallon" <betsyfallon at hotmail.com>
>Subject: CoS - Name Change


>The second Harry Potter film, "The 
>Chamber of Secrets" (likely American title: "The Room of Secrets") is
>shooting right now at Christ Church College, Oxford."
>


LOL, don't stress. I read this article earlier and it was humourous;
the dude who wrote this was just making a joke because of all the
controversy surrounding the fact that Philosopher's Stone was changed
to Sorcerer's Stone in the US. 

I cracked up laughing when I read this part of the article! lol. So
true. :o)

Cheers,
Helen


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From alikitty_hp at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 13 05:30:30 2002
From: alikitty_hp at yahoo.com (Ali Jessop)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 22:30:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] CoS - Name Change
In-Reply-To: <a97e0u+bokf@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20020413053030.27171.qmail@web20803.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi

I not only think this is unlikely but also not true.
The first book's title was change to attract American
readers. It did. Since then all the other books have
been released by their original names, I don't see why
they would change it now.

Plus, I have seen previews for the new toys that will
be coming out in conjunction with the movie and they
ALL say "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets".

Ali

> 
> "Now I'm glad to say I can finally bring you some
> fresh material from 
> the other side of the pond. The second Harry Potter
> film, "The 
> Chamber of Secrets" (likely American title: "The
> Room of Secrets") is 
> shooting right now at Christ Church College,
> Oxford."
> 
> Do you think this change is possible? It doesn't
> make any sense to me 
> to re-name the title of the film. The publisher
> didn't change the 
> title of the book for American readers. I think most
> viewers know the 
> difference between a room and a chamber.  Any
> comments?
> 
> Betsy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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From tina4933 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 12 18:52:05 2002
From: tina4933 at yahoo.com (Tina)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 11:52:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Will we miss Zoe and Cleese?
In-Reply-To: <1018634231.258.92339.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20020412185205.3864.qmail@web20605.mail.yahoo.com>

--- HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Message: 1
>    Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 23:16:31 -0000
>    From: "irene_mikhlin" <irene_mikhlin at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Will we miss Zoe and Cleese?
> 
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "River3_98" <ITZregina at h...> wrote:
> 
> > There goes the Deathday party, Peeves getting Harry out of
> trouble 
> > with Filch. How will we find out Filch is a squib?  Who will 
> referee 
> > the quidditch game?  
> 
> Hm, Snape? :-)
> 
> The girl can dream, no?

LOL! You and me both, sister! :)

::proud and loyal Snape fan::

~Tina

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From ComtessadeChats at cs.com  Fri Apr 12 14:47:06 2002
From: ComtessadeChats at cs.com (ComtessadeChats at cs.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 10:47:06 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Digest Number 186
Message-ID: <17d.6a3ee2f.29e84d6a@cs.com>

In a message dated 4/11/02 6:27:25 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
deadstop at gte.net writes:

> Er, Emma won for Leading Young Actress, didn't she?  Daniel clearly would 
not 
> have been in competition for that award.  I assume he was up for Leading 
> Young Actor.

  Duh!  You're right.  Major brain cramp!  Sorry!   I just always want to 
assume the best about Daniel.

   ~~~LYSA~~~




From neilward at dircon.co.uk  Sun Apr 14 11:47:06 2002
From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (flyingfordanglia)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 11:47:06 -0000
Subject: CoS - Name Change
In-Reply-To: <a97e0u+bokf@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <a9bq7q+2d0l@eGroups.com>

Re: quote from The Leaky Cauldron:

<< "Now I'm glad to say I can finally bring you some fresh material 
from the other side of the pond. The second Harry Potter film, "The  
Chamber of Secrets" (likely American title: "The Room of Secrets") is 
shooting right now at Christ Church College, Oxford." >>

Betsy said:
 
<< Do you think this change is possible? It doesn't make any sense to 
me to re-name the title of the film. >>

I agree, but I read that LC comment as a little joke on the part of 
the editors.  

If there's some truth in it, might we see the release of "Harry 
Potter and the Cup of Fire" in a few years time?  Perhaps they feel 
compelled to change the films' titles for no logical reason (I've 
often scratched my head name changes for UK or US films, in either 
direction).  

If they want to mess with Prisoner of Azkaban, I suggest "Who Let The 
Dog Out?" as a suitably punchy title.

Neil

___







From Ali at zymurgy.org  Sun Apr 14 18:13:56 2002
From: Ali at zymurgy.org (alhewison)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 18:13:56 -0000
Subject: CoS - Name Change
In-Reply-To: <a97e0u+bokf@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <a9cgt4+72ao@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "betsyfallon" <betsyfallon at h...> wrote:
> If you go to the Leaky Cauldron, you will see a link to a site that 
> talks about CoS.
> 
> The individual talks about a name change:
> 
>  I think most viewers know the 
> difference between a room and a chamber.  Any comments?
> 
Erm, I don't think that there is a difference (IMO). Chamber is an 
old English word which has generally fallen out of usage. It does 
mean though... room! It more commonly referred to a bedroom (very 
similar to the French word "chambre".

I guess using the word "Chamber" conjures up something different in 
your mind to the word room, but it wouldn't exactly be wrong. I agree 
with all the posts that it was just a joke about the name change 
though - when they're dining out on the success of the books, why 
bother to change the name?

Ali




From Ali at zymurgy.org  Sun Apr 14 18:21:52 2002
From: Ali at zymurgy.org (alhewison)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 18:21:52 -0000
Subject: The extra scene
Message-ID: <a9chc0+222m@eGroups.com>

The extra scene, supposedly written by JKR has been worrying me for a 
while, and I can't recall any messages on this aspect of it:

In PoA when Harry hears his parents final minutes, he hears his 
father saying words to the effect of "Lily, he's come, I'll try and 
hold him off, you take Harry and run" (sorry I haven't got my books 
at the moment). In the film though, Lily hasn't even taken Harry out 
of his cot yet. Arguably, she could have been at the opposite end of 
the house to Harry, and had just run to get him. I got the feeling 
though that she hadn't tried to get him and make a run for it. Maybe 
she didn't think she could get out of the door, but you'd think that 
she'd still pick Harry up to protect him. Unless, she didn't think 
that Harry (or perhaps even herself) were under any threat - in which 
case, why not?

Any thoughts on this?

Ali




From kechelsen at aol.com  Sun Apr 14 20:40:12 2002
From: kechelsen at aol.com (kathye_c)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 20:40:12 -0000
Subject: CoS - Name Change
In-Reply-To: <a9bq7q+2d0l@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <a9cpfc+k2up@eGroups.com>

<<If they want to mess with Prisoner of Azkaban, I suggest "Who Let 
The Dog Out?" as a suitably punchy title.>>


Oh, my... ROFL!!!!  Neil, this is excellent!!!

Seriously, I have to agree... changing the names of the films from 
here on out would be pointless, especially if they didn't change the 
book titles from book 2 onwards.  

Kathy




From HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com  Mon Apr 15 07:19:22 2002
From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 15 Apr 2002 07:19:22 -0000
Subject: Poll results for HPFGU-Movie 
Message-ID: <1018855162.23.62663.m5@yahoogroups.com>


The following HPFGU-Movie poll is now closed.  Here are the 
final results: 


POLL QUESTION: Who should have directed the Harry 
Potter movie (or who should direct them 
in the future)? 

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- Steven Spielberg (E.T.), 0 votes, 0.00%  
- Tim Burton (Edward Scissorhands), 4 votes, 14.29%  
- Jean-Pierre Jeunet (City of Lost Children), 2 votes, 7.14%  
- David Lynch (The Straight Story), 0 votes, 0.00%  
- Agnieszka Holland  (The Secret Garden), 3 votes, 10.71%  
- George Lucas (Star Wars), 1 votes, 3.57%  
- Put away the thumbscrews, Chris Columbus was fine!, 16 votes, 57.14%  
- Other - please specify on the list, 2 votes, 7.14%  



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From ShelaghC at aol.com  Thu Apr 18 20:30:29 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 20:30:29 -0000
Subject: Anyone live in the Chicago area?
Message-ID: <a9nad5+437h@eGroups.com>

If so, would you like to get together for a DVD Party when HP-SS/PS 
is finally released?

I have a copy on pre-order and a lovely five disk DVD player just 
waiting for this movie.

Shelagh
the quiet member of the list





From Schlobin1 at aol.com  Fri Apr 19 03:02:11 2002
From: Schlobin1 at aol.com (Schlobin1 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 23:02:11 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Anyone live in the Chicago area?
Message-ID: <11b.f4ca27e.29f0e2b3@aol.com>

In a message dated 4/18/2002 6:02:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
ShelaghC at aol.com writes:


> If so, would you like to get together for a DVD Party when HP-SS/PS 
> is finally released?
> 
> I have a copy on pre-order and a lovely five disk DVD player just 
> waiting for this movie.
> 
> Shelagh
> the quiet member of the list
> 

I'm in Ann Arbor, and I also have a DVD player





"In response to an unusually intelligent question about whether the sudden 
resurgence of the fantasy genre, with the wizardry and witchcraft, represents 
a growing interest in pagan spiritual traditions, Ian McKellen (who plays 
Gandalf in the Lord of the Rings) replied:

'I certainly hope so. The great religions have destroyed something essential 
about humanity, which is the fact that we belong to the earth. I wish I knew 
more about pagan traditions, because I suspect I would like to sign up.'"


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From john at walton.vu  Fri Apr 19 03:12:18 2002
From: john at walton.vu (John Walton)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 04:12:18 +0100
Subject: ADMIN: Take personal stuff off-list or to a regional list, please!
In-Reply-To: <11b.f4ca27e.29f0e2b3@aol.com>
Message-ID: <B8E549A2.E21C%john@walton.vu>

Folks, if you're going to discuss personal stuff (like, er, meeting up to
watch the DVD :D ) please either take it off-list to personal email --
perhaps coordinating with Shelagh or someone else who wants to organise it
-- or use/start up a regional list. There is a link to all regional lists at
the group's homepage -- http://www.hpfgu.org.uk -- or here's a direct link:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/links/Regional_HPfGU_Lists_00099
9973547/

(you may need to reconstruct that link)

Enjoy, and if you do meet up, let us know about it on OTChatter!

Cheers,

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From katzefan at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 21 06:19:37 2002
From: katzefan at yahoo.com (katzefan)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 06:19:37 -0000
Subject: Just a couple of comments
Message-ID: <a9tllp+liur@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "flyingfordanglia" <neilward at d...> 
wrote:
> Re: quote from The Leaky Cauldron:
> 
> << "Now I'm glad to say I can finally bring you some fresh 
material  from the other side of the pond. The second Harry 
Potter film, "The Chamber of Secrets" (likely American title: "The 
Room of Secrets") is shooting right now at Christ Church 
College, Oxford." >>
> 
> Betsy said:
>  
> << Do you think this change is possible? It doesn't make any 
sense to me to re-name the title of the film. >> 
> I agree, but I read that LC comment as a little joke on the part 
of   the editors.   
> If there's some truth in it, might we see the release of "Harry 
> Potter and the Cup of Fire" in a few years time? ...

Or 'Mug of Fire,' after which someone could invent a new drink as 
a tie-in with the movie.... 
> 
> If they want to mess with Prisoner of Azkaban, I suggest "Who 
Let The Dog Out?" as a suitably punchy title.
> 
LOVE IT!

-----------

Gee, I wonder why ....

POLL QUESTION: Who should have directed the Harry 
Potter movie (or who should direct them in the future)? 

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- Steven Spielberg (E.T.), 0 votes, 0.00% 





From katzefan at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 21 06:33:05 2002
From: katzefan at yahoo.com (katzefan)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 06:33:05 -0000
Subject: The extra scene
In-Reply-To: <a9chc0+222m@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <a9tmf1+lu8f@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "alhewison" <Ali at z...> wrote:
....In the film though, Lily hasn't even taken Harry out 
> of his cot yet. Arguably, she could have been at the opposite 
end of  the house to Harry, and had just run to get him. I got the 
feeling though that she hadn't tried to get him and make a run for 
it. Maybe  she didn't think she could get out of the door, but you'd 
think that she'd still pick Harry up to protect him. ?
> 
> Any thoughts on this?
> 
> Ali

I thought, during the flashback scene in the movie, she *was* 
holding Harry as Voldemort approached the room (I got the 
impression it was Harry's room). 
I seem to recall her holding the baby quite tightly, and I think I 
recall green light starting to seep in around the door, although 
I'm not absolutely sure of that.
However, a later scene (by which time I assume Lily and James 
are dead) shows a wand pointing squarely at the baby, who's 
sitting on what appears to be a chesterfield, or something 
similar, and I confess I'm wondering how he got from Lily's arms 
to there. If Voldemort was out to kill the whole family, he'd hardly 
have been considerate enough to catch Harry as his mother fell 
and then prop him up carefully before performing the Avada 
Kedavra curse....




From Ali at zymurgy.org  Mon Apr 22 09:06:25 2002
From: Ali at zymurgy.org (alhewison)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:06:25 -0000
Subject: The extra scene
In-Reply-To: <a9tmf1+lu8f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aa0jqh+1k7a@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "katzefan" <katzefan at y...> wrote:
> 
> I thought, during the flashback scene in the movie, she *was* 
> holding Harry as Voldemort approached the room (I got the 
> impression it was Harry's room). 
> I seem to recall her holding the baby quite tightly, and I think I 
> recall green light starting to seep in around the door, although 
> I'm not absolutely sure of that.
> However, a later scene (by which time I assume Lily and James 
> are dead) shows a wand pointing squarely at the baby, who's 
> sitting on what appears to be a chesterfield, or something 
> similar, and I confess I'm wondering how he got from Lily's arms 
> to there. If Voldemort was out to kill the whole family, he'd 
hardly 
> have been considerate enough to catch Harry as his mother fell 
> and then prop him up carefully before performing the Avada 
> Kedavra curse....

Oh woops! Now you've said that I can remember that clear as a bell!. 
I do worry about my memory sometimes though. I did see the film 3 
times too!

I do wonder though why Lily hadn't tried to run. If she knew that 
Voldemort had come to her house, surely she knew she was tempting 
fate to stay? Shuting the door was hardly going to keep him out, so 
why didn't she try and make a run for it? - Unless she didn't feel 
she (or Harry) were at risk?


Ali

(who feels very stupid that her memory is so bad, and is looking 
forward to the DVD coming out on the 11th!)

 




From ShelaghC at aol.com  Mon Apr 22 16:12:47 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:12:47 -0000
Subject: ADMIN: Take personal stuff off-list or to a regional list, please!
In-Reply-To: <B8E549A2.E21C%john@walton.vu>
Message-ID: <aa1cpv+315s@eGroups.com>

My apologies. I had no idea regional HP lists existed.

I've made similar postings for other lists with the same intent and 
it's worked out wonderfully.

So, in that spirit, I've posted to the HP Great Lakes board, but if 
anyone else is interested, please email me offlist.

Thanks

Shelagh

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., John Walton <john at w...> wrote:
> Folks, if you're going to discuss personal stuff (like, er, meeting 
up to
> watch the DVD :D ) please either take it off-list to personal 
email --
> perhaps coordinating with Shelagh or someone else who wants to 
organise it
> -- or use/start up a regional list. There is a link to all regional 
lists at
> the group's homepage -- http://www.hpfgu.org.uk -- or here's a 
direct link:
> 
> 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/links/Regional_HPfGU_Lists
_00099
> 9973547/
> 
> (you may need to reconstruct that link)
> 
> Enjoy, and if you do meet up, let us know about it on OTChatter!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> --John, Magical Moderator With Rock #47
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From vdegroote at wi.rr.com  Mon Apr 22 19:43:23 2002
From: vdegroote at wi.rr.com (Vicky D)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 14:43:23 -0500
Subject: Ok, when's the DVD coming out?
References: <1019494586.135.92903.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <001b01c1ea35$f6a85dc0$6401a8c0@FAMILY>


----- Original Message ----- >
> Ali
>
> (who feels very stupid that her memory is so bad, and is looking
> forward to the DVD coming out on the 11th!)

Wha,huh??!!  The DVD's coming out on the 11th?  When did that happen?  Where
do I sign up?!  Eeps, if a half day goes by that the DVD is on the market &
I don't have, I'll go nuts!   Right now i have someone who works at Target
buying it for me at the crack of dawn & me picking it up once my 7 y/o gets
on the bus!  But our arrangement is for the 28th!

Vicky




From ITZregina at hanson.net  Mon Apr 22 20:16:07 2002
From: ITZregina at hanson.net (River3_98)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 20:16:07 -0000
Subject: Ok, when's the DVD coming out?
In-Reply-To: <001b01c1ea35$f6a85dc0$6401a8c0@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <aa1r27+9l4n@eGroups.com>

It's being released in the UK on the 11th.  We USAers still have to 
wait until the 28th.

Gina




From ickle_ronniekins at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 22 12:00:10 2002
From: ickle_ronniekins at yahoo.com (Ronald Rae Yu)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 05:00:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sorting Hat and Ron
Message-ID: <20020422120010.50018.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi. I'm a member of HPFGU. This is my first post on
HPFGU-Movie, though. I just remembered the part in the
movie where Ron was sorted. The sorting hat said
something like, 'Another Weasley, eh? I know what to
do with you --- GRYFFINDOR!' Haven't the moviewriters
read that bit in book 4 about the hat not sorting by
family? Don't you think they made the sorting hat a
little prejudiced here?

-Ron Yu

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From jillyharris at triton.net  Mon Apr 22 13:26:33 2002
From: jillyharris at triton.net (Jilly Harris)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:26:33 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The extra scene
References: <aa0jqh+1k7a@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3CC40F89.C2CAC678@triton.net>

>  --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "katzefan" <katzefan at y...> wrote:
> >
> > I thought, during the flashback scene in the movie, she *was*
> > holding Harry as Voldemort approached the room (I got the
> > impression it was Harry's room).
> > I seem to recall her holding the baby quite tightly, and I think I
> > recall green light starting to seep in around the door, although
> > I'm not absolutely sure of that.
> > However, a later scene (by which time I assume Lily and James
> > are dead) shows a wand pointing squarely at the baby, who's
> > sitting on what appears to be a chesterfield, or something
> > similar, and I confess I'm wondering how he got from Lily's arms
> > to there. If Voldemort was out to kill the whole family, he'd
> hardly
> > have been considerate enough to catch Harry as his mother fell
> > and then prop him up carefully before performing the Avada
> > Kedavra curse....

I remember from the movie that Lily was in a room holding Harry, his
room, because there was a mobile above his crib that
was owls. She screamed, slammed the door shut, was holding Harry when
Voldemort blasted the door. Apparently she
must of put Harry in his crib as she was pleading to not kill Harry,
because when Voldemort actually killed Lily, she was no
longer holding Harry in the movie.

Jilly





From nee1 at worldnet.att.net  Mon Apr 22 21:37:26 2002
From: nee1 at worldnet.att.net (Renee Gunn)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:37:26 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Ok, when's the DVD coming out?
References: <1019494586.135.92903.m12@yahoogroups.com> <001b01c1ea35$f6a85dc0$6401a8c0@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <001801c1ea45$e647e940$ac7afea9@oemcomputer>

IT is coming out on the 28th... you're not losing it...   and www.buy.com, last time I went there anyway, and where I got mine from is selling the DVD for 16.99 with no shipping and handling.  Anyway, cheapest I've seen yet.   It might be coming out in other countries on a different day, mostly I"m thinking England though. 

Renee
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Vicky D 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: April 22, 2002 2:43 PM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Ok, when's the DVD coming out?



  ----- Original Message ----- >
  > Ali
  >
  > (who feels very stupid that her memory is so bad, and is looking
  > forward to the DVD coming out on the 11th!)

  Wha,huh??!!  The DVD's coming out on the 11th?  When did that happen?  Where
  do I sign up?!  Eeps, if a half day goes by that the DVD is on the market &
  I don't have, I'll go nuts!   Right now i have someone who works at Target
  buying it for me at the crack of dawn & me picking it up once my 7 y/o gets
  on the bus!  But our arrangement is for the 28th!

  Vicky


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From nee1 at worldnet.att.net  Mon Apr 22 13:03:55 2002
From: nee1 at worldnet.att.net (Renee Gunn)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 08:03:55 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The extra scene
References: <aa0jqh+1k7a@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <003e01c1e9fe$29b0c460$ac7afea9@oemcomputer>



  I do wonder though why Lily hadn't tried to run. If she knew that 
  Voldemort had come to her house, surely she knew she was tempting 
  fate to stay? Shuting the door was hardly going to keep him out, so 
  why didn't she try and make a run for it? - Unless she didn't feel 
  she (or Harry) were at risk?



  I don't believe that Lily ran because she was at the top of the stairs when she saw Voldemort.  There wasn't really any place for her to run.  Granted she could have gotten out the window, but kind of hard to do, even with magic when you're trying to carry your son.  I think she knew that that time there was no way to escape Voldemort and the best she could do was try to protect her child.   As to why Harry was where he was when Voldemort pointed the wand at him, I believe that as Lily fell, she was still holding her child and she was starting to turn a bit as the curse hit her.  Meaning, that she may have landed on her back and HArry had crawled off and sat up looking at Voldemort.  Voldemort had no reason to rush with what he enjoyed most, killing and torturing... he had no idea that HArry would be his downfall. 

  Renee


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From wildchildbabe at hotmail.com  Mon Apr 22 19:54:50 2002
From: wildchildbabe at hotmail.com (kelly broughton)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 14:54:50 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The extra scene
References: <aa0jqh+1k7a@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <OE42zDgtZKpjE5aHaZV00000bb5@hotmail.com>

Where in the hell was she going to run to? She was trapped in the nursery with Harry, and I believe they were on the second floor... don't think she can fly without a broom!

-kel


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: alhewison 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 4:06 AM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The extra scene


  --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "katzefan" <katzefan at y...> wrote:
  > 
  > I thought, during the flashback scene in the movie, she *was* 
  > holding Harry as Voldemort approached the room (I got the 
  > impression it was Harry's room). 
  > I seem to recall her holding the baby quite tightly, and I think I 
  > recall green light starting to seep in around the door, although 
  > I'm not absolutely sure of that.
  > However, a later scene (by which time I assume Lily and James 
  > are dead) shows a wand pointing squarely at the baby, who's 
  > sitting on what appears to be a chesterfield, or something 
  > similar, and I confess I'm wondering how he got from Lily's arms 
  > to there. If Voldemort was out to kill the whole family, he'd 
  hardly 
  > have been considerate enough to catch Harry as his mother fell 
  > and then prop him up carefully before performing the Avada 
  > Kedavra curse....

  Oh woops! Now you've said that I can remember that clear as a bell!. 
  I do worry about my memory sometimes though. I did see the film 3 
  times too!

  I do wonder though why Lily hadn't tried to run. If she knew that 
  Voldemort had come to her house, surely she knew she was tempting 
  fate to stay? Shuting the door was hardly going to keep him out, so 
  why didn't she try and make a run for it? - Unless she didn't feel 
  she (or Harry) were at risk?


  Ali

  (who feels very stupid that her memory is so bad, and is looking 
  forward to the DVD coming out on the 11th!)




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From saitaina at wizzards.net  Mon Apr 22 23:39:19 2002
From: saitaina at wizzards.net (Saitaina)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:39:19 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Ok, when's the DVD coming out?
References: <1019494586.135.92903.m12@yahoogroups.com> <001b01c1ea35$f6a85dc0$6401a8c0@FAMILY> <001801c1ea45$e647e940$ac7afea9@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <010b01c1ea56$ef05b420$784e28d1@oemcomputer>

The DVD for US and Canada is coming out May 28th, UK the 11th and Japan the 19th.

I have my copy reserved through Amazon for 19.99$ and I'm mad that you got it for less *fake glare at Renee*

Saitaina
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From saitaina at wizzards.net  Mon Apr 22 23:43:54 2002
From: saitaina at wizzards.net (Saitaina)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:43:54 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Sorting Hat and Ron
References: <20020422120010.50018.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <011201c1ea57$90c88800$784e28d1@oemcomputer>

Ron Yu wrote-
<I just remembered the part in the
movie where Ron was sorted. The sorting hat said
something like, 'Another Weasley, eh? I know what to
do with you --- GRYFFINDOR!' Haven't the moviewriters
read that bit in book 4 about the hat not sorting by
family? Don't you think they made the sorting hat a
little prejudiced here?>

I think it was just meant to be a funny line.  I'm sure that the hat looked inside him, saw at a glance he was Gryffindor and said what it said as it matched with the rest of the family.  Of course, it could also be a throw away line just to get through his sorting and get on with the story.  But remember all of the Weasleys were Gryffindor.  If the hat saw at a glance that Ron was such that line would not have been prejudicial but just the hat commenting on the fact Ron is a Weasley and he belongs in Gryffindor.

"Another Weasley eh?  I know what to do with you, Gryffindor."  

If you separate those into two separate thoughts, instead of one, you see what I mean.  Commenting on family and then on house.

Saitaina
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From nee1 at worldnet.att.net  Tue Apr 23 00:48:38 2002
From: nee1 at worldnet.att.net (Renee Gunn)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 19:48:38 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Sorting Hat and Ron
References: <20020422120010.50018.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> <011201c1ea57$90c88800$784e28d1@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <002801c1ea60$9bd6f340$ac7afea9@oemcomputer>

Plus, perhaps all the Weasley's have just happened to display the characteristics of Gryffindors and been best suited for that... 


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Saitaina 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: April 22, 2002 6:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Sorting Hat and Ron


  Ron Yu wrote-
  <I just remembered the part in the
  movie where Ron was sorted. The sorting hat said
  something like, 'Another Weasley, eh? I know what to
  do with you --- GRYFFINDOR!' Haven't the moviewriters
  read that bit in book 4 about the hat not sorting by
  family? Don't you think they made the sorting hat a
  little prejudiced here?>

  I think it was just meant to be a funny line.  I'm sure that the hat looked inside him, saw at a glance he was Gryffindor and said what it said as it matched with the rest of the family.  Of course, it could also be a throw away line just to get through his sorting and get on with the story.  But remember all of the Weasleys were Gryffindor.  If the hat saw at a glance that Ron was such that line would not have been prejudicial but just the hat commenting on the fact Ron is a Weasley and he belongs in Gryffindor.

  "Another Weasley eh?  I know what to do with you, Gryffindor."  

  If you separate those into two separate thoughts, instead of one, you see what I mean.  Commenting on family and then on house.

  Saitaina
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From jillyharris at triton.net  Tue Apr 23 00:43:05 2002
From: jillyharris at triton.net (Jilly Harris)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 20:43:05 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Ok, when's the DVD coming out?
References: <1019494586.135.92903.m12@yahoogroups.com> <001b01c1ea35$f6a85dc0$6401a8c0@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <3CC4AE19.DB7BE086@triton.net>



Vicky D wrote:

> Wha,huh??!!  The DVD's coming out on the 11th?  When did that happen?
> Where
> do I sign up?!  Eeps, if a half day goes by that the DVD is on the
> market &
> I don't have, I'll go nuts!   Right now i have someone who works at
> Target
> buying it for me at the crack of dawn & me picking it up once my 7 y/o
> gets
> on the bus!  But our arrangement is for the 28th!

>From what I understand, the DVD is being released on May 11 in the UK,
and in the US on May 28th. So if you are in the States, you are May 28th
release.

Jilly





From ITZregina at hanson.net  Tue Apr 23 18:02:38 2002
From: ITZregina at hanson.net (River3_98)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 18:02:38 -0000
Subject: Miriam Margolyes
Message-ID: <aa47ju+tr48@eGroups.com>

I heard that she had appeared as the nanny in Romeo and Juliet.  
Which version?

Gina




From ComtessadeChats at cs.com  Tue Apr 23 16:49:57 2002
From: ComtessadeChats at cs.com (ComtessadeChats at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 12:49:57 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The extra scene
Message-ID: <4a.a5cdff5.29f6eab5@cs.com>

In a message dated 4/22/02 5:47:07 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
nee1 at worldnet.att.net writes:

>  I do wonder though why Lily hadn't tried to run. If she knew that 
>    Voldemort had come to her house, surely she knew she was tempting 
>    fate to stay? Shuting the door was hardly going to keep him out, so 
>    why didn't she try and make a run for it? - Unless she didn't feel 
>    she (or Harry) were at risk?
>  
     I was wondering where James was when all of this was going down.  I 
don't remember him in that scene in the movie, and I got the impression in 
the book that he was with Lily and Harry at the time.  Someone refresh my 
memory!

   ~~~LYSA~~~



From Caeser56 at si.rr.com  Tue Apr 23 20:37:32 2002
From: Caeser56 at si.rr.com (caes56)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 20:37:32 -0000
Subject: Miriam Margolyes
In-Reply-To: <aa47ju+tr48@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aa4gmc+nkqm@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "River3_98" <ITZregina at h...> wrote:
> I heard that she had appeared as the nanny in Romeo and Juliet.  
> Which version?
> 
> Gina

As a huge fan of the movie and Baz Lurhmann's two major works so 
far, Moulin Rouge and William Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet, I can 
tell you that is the version. It is available under the latter title 
mentioned, on vhs, DVD, and DVD Special Edition. There are quite a 
few features under the Special edition DVD, including but not 
limited to commentaries, behind-the-scenes excerpts, cast 
interviews, etc. The stars in the Lead roles were Leonardo DiCaprio 
and Claire Danes, with quite a few other stars in different roles. 
For those of you who don't recognize this version by the director, 
it made a bozz back in 1997 because Luhrmann made the film with all 
lines written as Shakespeare penned them, however, he changed the 
setting around to a modern setting in a slummed-out "Verona Beach." 
for an example, in one of the first scenes, the Capulets and 
Montagues get into a fight in a gas station in cars, and when one of 
them "draws swords", they draw a pistol, and the camera goes closeup 
on the side, where it says clearly, "Sword, 9mm". It is an excellent 
watch for any fans of Romeo and Juliet, in my opinion. 

-Vin




From Ali at zymurgy.org  Tue Apr 23 21:26:23 2002
From: Ali at zymurgy.org (alhewison)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 21:26:23 -0000
Subject: The extra scene
In-Reply-To: <4a.a5cdff5.29f6eab5@cs.com>
Message-ID: <aa4jhv+b1ds@eGroups.com>

me:
> > >  I do wonder though why Lily hadn't tried to run. If she knew 
that Voldemort had come to her house, surely she knew she was 
tempting fate to stay? Shuting the door was hardly going to keep him 
out, so why didn't she try and make a run for it? - Unless she didn't 
feel she (or Harry) were at risk?

> > Lysa 
>  I was wondering where James was when all of this was going down.  
I  don't remember him in that scene in the movie, and I got the 
impression in  the book that he was with Lily and Harry at the time.  
Someone refresh my  memory!
> 
>    
Where in the hell was she going to run to? She was trapped in the 
nursery with Harry, and I believe they were on the second floor... 
don't think she can fly without a broom!

-kel

I just thought I'd reply to these threads by back tracking a bit and 
explaining why I was interested in the extra scene in the first place:

This scene was supposedly written by JKR, as such it is the nearest 
we have had to canon for quite a while (yes, I am counting). She 
apparently left the full scene out of PS/SS as it would have given 
too much a way. (Sorry I don't have the references for it). This has 
led me to look at the scene carefully (very embarassing then that I 
misremembered it). 
Anyway this is the canon as I recall it:

Harry remembers in PoA his father saying "Lily, take Harry and go! 
Run! I'll hold him off..." p. 178 PoA (UK edition) 

This suggests to me that James thought that it was possible for Lily 
to make a run for it - or at least try. Why then in the film is our 
first image of Lily shut in Harry's bedroom holding him?

This is why I asked why she didn't try to make a run for it. In other 
words it wasn't quite the ridiculous question it may have sounded. 

You could argue that Lily was faced with a fight or flight option, 
and decided to fight. She must have known that she couldn't win 
against Voldemort (well James seems to imply that he can't when he 
says that he'll "hold him off"). However, could she have predicted 
that her death would have saved Harry? After all, if Voldemort had 
decided to kill her, and then kill Harry, there would have been no 
sacrifice and therefore no protection for Harry. It is Lily's 
sacrifice that saved Harry, and not her death itself.

My question is therefore why didn't she try to make a run for it. Why 
was she shut in Harry's nursery? If she was desperate enough to make 
a run for it she could have jumped out of a window - yes even if it 
is on the second floor as wizards appear to be able to do things that 
we Muggles can't.

I know this evidence is somewhat flimsy, but then you add the fact 
that Voldemort would have spared Lily. It seems to me that <possibly> 
Lily believed that she wasn't at risk, and her misjudgement was that 
she didn't think Harry was either. What does anyone think to that 
possibilty?


Ali

who whilst she is very pleased to be getting the DVD on May 11th, not 
the 28th will also be paying rather alot more for it than all the 
American fans - the cheapest I have seen so far is ?16.99 plus P+P 
which is alot more than some of the prices I've seen quoted in the 
States. My bank balance would rather I was paying less and getting 
the DVD later!!





From caithness01 at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 23 21:50:27 2002
From: caithness01 at yahoo.com (Mary Korth)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 14:50:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Where was James?
Message-ID: <20020423215027.26533.qmail@web14703.mail.yahoo.com>

PoA,, chapter 12:  Harry is in his anti-dementor
lessons with Prof. Lupin and fails to produce a strong
enough patronus.  He hears his father's voice for the
first time:

-'Lily, take Harry and go!  It's him!  Go! Run! I'll
hold him off!'  The sounds of someone stumbling froma
room - a door bursting open - a cackle of high-pitched
laughter..."

I think we can assume from this that James tried to
hold Voldemort off at the door and was murdered there.
 Hope this helps...

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From kechelsen at aol.com  Tue Apr 23 20:37:09 2002
From: kechelsen at aol.com (kathye_c)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 20:37:09 -0000
Subject: Miriam Margolyes
In-Reply-To: <aa47ju+tr48@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aa4gll+urqo@eGroups.com>

<<--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "River3_98" <ITZregina at h...> wrote:
I heard that she had appeared as the nanny in Romeo and Juliet. Which 
version?>>

You might check the Internet Movie Data Base for that information.  
Just type in her name and her list of films will come up.

Is she going to be in the next movie?  What brought her to mind?

Kathy





From jillyharris at triton.net  Tue Apr 23 19:58:15 2002
From: jillyharris at triton.net (Jilly Harris)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 15:58:15 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Miriam Margolyes
References: <aa47ju+tr48@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3CC5BCD6.94B5B4E2@triton.net>



River3_98 wrote:

>  I heard that she had appeared as the nanny in Romeo and Juliet.
> Which version?

The Baz Luhrmann version. I just watched it recently.

Jilly




From ITZregina at hanson.net  Tue Apr 23 23:53:51 2002
From: ITZregina at hanson.net (River3_98)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 23:53:51 -0000
Subject: Miriam Margolyes
In-Reply-To: <aa4gll+urqo@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aa4s6f+mp42@eGroups.com>

<Is she going to be in the next movie? What brought her to mind?>

Yes, she is playing Professor Sprout.

Gina





From ITZregina at hanson.net  Tue Apr 23 23:57:46 2002
From: ITZregina at hanson.net (River3_98)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 23:57:46 -0000
Subject: Miriam Margolyes
In-Reply-To: <aa4gmc+nkqm@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aa4sdq+lubq@eGroups.com>

Thank you for the info!  I have only seen the 1968 version of Romeo 
and Juliet.  I love that version and am really hesitant of watching 
the "modern" one.

Getting back to HP, Miriam Margolyes looks just like I had pictured 
Prof. Sprout.

Gina




From jillyharris at triton.net  Tue Apr 23 23:11:43 2002
From: jillyharris at triton.net (Jilly Harris)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 19:11:43 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Miriam Margolyes
References: <aa4gll+urqo@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3CC5EA2E.3B25CDCD@triton.net>



kathye_c wrote:

>  <<--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "River3_98" <ITZregina at h...> wrote:
> I heard that she had appeared as the nanny in Romeo and Juliet. Which
> version?>>
>
> You might check the Internet Movie Data Base for that information.
> Just type in her name and her list of films will come up.
>
> Is she going to be in the next movie?  What brought her to mind?

I think she will be playing Professor Sprout.

Jilly





From caithness01 at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 28 13:56:14 2002
From: caithness01 at yahoo.com (Mary Korth)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 06:56:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: HP Galleries
Message-ID: <20020428135614.34281.qmail@web14704.mail.yahoo.com>

Is there something wrong with the site?  For days,
every time I click the link to HPGalleries on The
Leaky Cauldron or type the URL in, I get a warning
window that says "Specified Server could not be
found."


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From ITZregina at hanson.net  Tue Apr 30 01:44:14 2002
From: ITZregina at hanson.net (River3_98)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 01:44:14 -0000
Subject: HP Galleries
In-Reply-To: <20020428135614.34281.qmail@web14704.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <aakste+ppje@eGroups.com>


It hasn't been working for me either.   It has been down a lot 
lately.  After the first two times I bookmarked The Leaky Cauldron. 
They are great at keeping it updated and Ii missed it badly when I 
couldn't get on the main site.

Maybe my link will work for you:

http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/

Gina






--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Mary Korth <caithness01 at y...> wrote:
> Is there something wrong with the site?  For days,
> every time I click the link to HPGalleries on The
> Leaky Cauldron or type the URL in, I get a warning
> window that says "Specified Server could not be
> found."
> 
> 
> =====
> I'm just a Raggedy Ann gal in a Barbie Doll world...
> 
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From ITZregina at hanson.net  Tue Apr 30 13:57:50 2002
From: ITZregina at hanson.net (River3_98)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 13:57:50 -0000
Subject: HP nominated for Sci Fi Awards
Message-ID: <aam7su+e39j@eGroups.com>

"Harry Potter And The Philosopher's Stone and the Lord Of The Rings 
have been
nominated for sci-fi awards.
 
Harry Potter received nine nominations from the Academy of Science 
Fiction,
Fantasy and Horror Films.
 
The Fellowship Of The Ring got eight."
 
Full story: http://www.ananova.com/yournews/story/sm_578431.html

Ananova doesn't list the awards.  Does anyone know where I can find 
them?


Gina