The extra scene
alhewison
Ali at zymurgy.org
Tue Apr 23 21:26:23 UTC 2002
me:
> > > I do wonder though why Lily hadn't tried to run. If she knew
that Voldemort had come to her house, surely she knew she was
tempting fate to stay? Shuting the door was hardly going to keep him
out, so why didn't she try and make a run for it? - Unless she didn't
feel she (or Harry) were at risk?
> > Lysa
> I was wondering where James was when all of this was going down.
I don't remember him in that scene in the movie, and I got the
impression in the book that he was with Lily and Harry at the time.
Someone refresh my memory!
>
>
Where in the hell was she going to run to? She was trapped in the
nursery with Harry, and I believe they were on the second floor...
don't think she can fly without a broom!
-kel
I just thought I'd reply to these threads by back tracking a bit and
explaining why I was interested in the extra scene in the first place:
This scene was supposedly written by JKR, as such it is the nearest
we have had to canon for quite a while (yes, I am counting). She
apparently left the full scene out of PS/SS as it would have given
too much a way. (Sorry I don't have the references for it). This has
led me to look at the scene carefully (very embarassing then that I
misremembered it).
Anyway this is the canon as I recall it:
Harry remembers in PoA his father saying "Lily, take Harry and go!
Run! I'll hold him off..." p. 178 PoA (UK edition)
This suggests to me that James thought that it was possible for Lily
to make a run for it - or at least try. Why then in the film is our
first image of Lily shut in Harry's bedroom holding him?
This is why I asked why she didn't try to make a run for it. In other
words it wasn't quite the ridiculous question it may have sounded.
You could argue that Lily was faced with a fight or flight option,
and decided to fight. She must have known that she couldn't win
against Voldemort (well James seems to imply that he can't when he
says that he'll "hold him off"). However, could she have predicted
that her death would have saved Harry? After all, if Voldemort had
decided to kill her, and then kill Harry, there would have been no
sacrifice and therefore no protection for Harry. It is Lily's
sacrifice that saved Harry, and not her death itself.
My question is therefore why didn't she try to make a run for it. Why
was she shut in Harry's nursery? If she was desperate enough to make
a run for it she could have jumped out of a window - yes even if it
is on the second floor as wizards appear to be able to do things that
we Muggles can't.
I know this evidence is somewhat flimsy, but then you add the fact
that Voldemort would have spared Lily. It seems to me that <possibly>
Lily believed that she wasn't at risk, and her misjudgement was that
she didn't think Harry was either. What does anyone think to that
possibilty?
Ali
who whilst she is very pleased to be getting the DVD on May 11th, not
the 28th will also be paying rather alot more for it than all the
American fans - the cheapest I have seen so far is £16.99 plus P+P
which is alot more than some of the prices I've seen quoted in the
States. My bank balance would rather I was paying less and getting
the DVD later!!
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