The movie isn't canon WAS: Definition of canon, was Re: [HPFGU-Movie] (unknown)

[Haggridd]

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Amanda Geist" <editor at t...> wrote:
> Jazmyn wrote
> 
yes, the movie can be
> > considered 'canon' as the books, due to the author's input and 
how much
> > she has had to have told them for the actors to understand the
> > characters so well as to portray them so beautifully.
> 

The movie is not canon.  However well the screenwriter and the editor 
ADAPTED (emphasis intended) the book, any conflict with the book must 
be resolved in favor of the book unless JKR explicitly states that 
the book was in error and the movie has it correctly.

> *ahem* Most of the people on the "literary" list have read this 
article and
> most anything else they can find, usually within a day of its 
appearance
> (usually thanks to the Cauldron). They love Harry Potter in all its 
venues,
> and many of us enjoy discussing the ramifications of what happens 
in the
> movie just as much as you do. Why would we have made another whole 
list for
> the movie if we didn't enjoy talking about it?
> 
> The point of the division is that the main list is for discussion 
of the
> books. *This* list is for discussion of the movie. Why is that a 
problem?
> 

It is not a problem.  The movie is another work entirely, based upon, 
but different from the books.  Much valuable, interesting and 
insightful discussion may take place concerning the movies, but they 
are not canon.  Compromises and changes were made to accomodate the 
medium of film, Not to redefine the Harry Potter saga.

> And I'm sorry, the movie is not considered canon, and would not be 
unless
> JKR had actually *written* the screenplay. I refer you to the 
Lexicon,
> bastion of all things Harry Potter, for the working definitions of 
canon as
> we use them on these lists:
> 
> http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/site_sources.html
> 
> I'd have copied you a bit, but Lexicon Steve has some cool thing 
working
> that alerts me that it is copyrighted and won't let me lift text. 
Since I
> have to type it, I will do only the most pertinent 
sentence: "Information
> which has come directly from JKR in either written or spoken form is
> considered canon." That's pretty much it.
> 
> ~Amanda

I would contend that even a screenplay written by JKR might not be 
considered canon if it were in conflict with the books, unless she 
were to make a declaration such as I mentioned above.

Haggridd