From anglinsbees at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  1 06:43:05 2002
From: anglinsbees at yahoo.com (anglinsbees)
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 06:43:05 -0000
Subject: Masons in COS? Help please!
Message-ID: <afotlp+hg9b@eGroups.com>

Anyone have any clue if we are going to see the Masons in COS, or if 
they ended up on the cutting room floor?

If anyone has seen a casting list, or anything, PLEASE email me!

Ellen





From mrflynn6 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  1 13:10:09 2002
From: mrflynn6 at yahoo.com (mrflynn6)
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 13:10:09 -0000
Subject: Masons in COS? Help please!
In-Reply-To: <afotlp+hg9b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <afpkbh+tkpk@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "anglinsbees" <anglinsbees at y...> wrote:
>
I am not sure about the Mason's, but there is a list on the 
warnerbrothers website, www.harrypotter.com , with the main 
characters for CoS.  They would almost have to include the Masons for 
the plot to work, but who knows.

Gretchen



 Anyone have any clue if we are going to see the Masons in COS, or if 
> they ended up on the cutting room floor?
> 
> If anyone has seen a casting list, or anything, PLEASE email me!
> 
> Ellen




From divaclv at aol.com  Mon Jul  1 22:28:46 2002
From: divaclv at aol.com (c_voth312)
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 22:28:46 -0000
Subject: Masons in COS? Help please!
In-Reply-To: <afotlp+hg9b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <afql2v+ijfe@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "anglinsbees" <anglinsbees at y...> wrote:
> Anyone have any clue if we are going to see the Masons in COS, or 
if 
> they ended up on the cutting room floor?
> 
> If anyone has seen a casting list, or anything, PLEASE email me!
> 
> Ellen

Currently, they're not on IMDb cast list--HOWEVER, their information 
is certainly partial at the moment (since there are no bit players 
listed yet), so don't rule them out.

~Christi





From TACtalk at adelanta.co.uk  Tue Jul  2 20:57:25 2002
From: TACtalk at adelanta.co.uk (TACtalk at adelanta.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:57:25 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Where was 'HP' shot?
Message-ID: <v01540b00b944ffaddf4f@[212.56.33.15]>

Thanks again for the various responses to my question. GulPlum (sorry, I
don't know your real name) said:-

>I don't have my copy of the DVD to hand to double check, but I think
>I'm correct in saying that we don't actually see Hagrid opening the
>door from the outside (from memory, the shot sequence is that we see
>him & Harry walking up to the door, but then we cut to an interior
>view to see them entering). This made me think that the Leaky
>Couldron facade is just that in that word's alternate meaning - a
>fake. :-)

Yes, and that's what made me think that it's a fake facade set in a real
location; otherwise, they could have shown Hagrid (from behind) opening the
door
and walking through.

The other thing that makes me think that it's a real location is the
partial reflection of a neon sign in the window of the shop next door. In a
set, the sign would not have been there, as it served no real purpose.

>
>I'm sitting here staring at a video capture I did a while back for
>another purpose of them standing outside the door, and the impression
>I get is that the Leaky Couldron facade is built over the entrance to
>an alleyway (the facades of the shops on either side aren't at the
>same elevation).

That's interesting, and I did read something like that while browsing on
the Internet a couple of weeks ago, trying to find the answer to my
question (when I found this list).

>
>It certainly doesn't look like any bit of Charing Cross Road to me (I
>used to know almost every inch of it) :-) and I suspect that it is
>somewhere around the back streets of Soho (Brewer Street, Windmill
>Street, that kind of area).

Hmmm; worth a look next time I am in London.

>Or a thought which has just occurred to
>me is that square (whose name I've forgotten for the moment)
>immediately across Charing Cross Road from the entrance into
>Leicester Square. I have a vague memory of something like that in
>that maze of little alleys. This would have the added advantage of
>being easy to film, instead of having to hold up the traffic in
>Charing Cross Road.

Do you mean Cecil Court, which is positively *lined* with second-hand
bookshops? That is where I had assumed that the scene was shot, but when I
went there to look, it didn't match.

>
>The building to the right of the Leaky Couldron is quite distinctive
>with that yellow pillar on a brown base; on the left of the LC is a
>shop with CDs on the rack rather than books, which narrows down the
>choices...

You're right; though possibly LPs/records, not CDs.

>
>Of course, it's not entirely imposible that that was in fact filmed
>on a sound stage - a redress of part of the Diagon Alley set is all
>that would be required, as we see neither the pavement nor the top of
>the buildings.

Yes, it's possible; but as I said previously, I think it's too shabby to be
fake.

>
>If you don't get anywhere, I'll have another search around that area
>the next time I'm in London in a few weeks' time (I had to move out
>of the capital last year, but I remain a frequent visitor).

It's a deal. Let's each look next time we are in London, and we'll report
back to the list.

Regards,
Nicholas






From ja9shahinian at sprynet.com  Thu Jul  4 03:03:26 2002
From: ja9shahinian at sprynet.com (Janine R. Shahinian)
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 23:03:26 -0400
Subject: Where was 'HP' shot?
Message-ID: <B949333E.54E%ja9shahinian@sprynet.com>

Nicholas wrote:

<<Yes, it's possible; but as I said previously, I think it's too shabby to
be fake.>>

Having been a guest on a couple of tv series film sets - with much lower
budgets than a feature film - I can tell you that nothing is "too" anything
for the set designers. Locations that are too shabby can be given a complete
face-lift and locations that are too neat can be dressed to look torn,
peeling and old.

I have a photo of a particularly nifty piece of set decoration from one
location I toured. The location is desired by film crews for it's given
state of shabbiness, so when I first glanced at a dirty and curled posted
notice, I assumed it had been put there a long time ago through the normal
course of everyday life. The title of the notice, however, was "THE MARTIAL
LAW ACT," which seemed a bit odd. On closer examination, the date of the
notice read, "July 1st, 2009". It had been part of a post-apocolyptic scifi
set.

<<The other thing that makes me think that it's a real location is the
partial reflection of a neon sign in the window of the shop next door. In a
set, the sign would not have been there, as it served no real purpose.>>

Lighting is very precisely controlled in filming; it's part of a director's
"palette". Think of that hand gesture that directors and known for - thumbs
pointing to each other and index fingers pointing up - and everything in
that frame is the director's canvas. If natural light is too bright, giant
screens are set up to block the sun's rays. Too dark, and lights are aimed
exactly where the director wants light. If you've seen "The Addams Family,"
notice that Morticia's eyes are always highlighted - to comical effect. That
neon light achieved precisely the effect that the director wanted: to make
the set look real. So whether the neon sign was real or not, its reflection
was no accident.

On one of the film locations that I got to watch, the director wanted to aim
the camera through a tree branch, but the spot where he had his camera was
several feet away from the nearby trees. So they set up something called a
"dingle" - a pole with the branch clamped to it at the precise height. On
screen, the audience would never know that the branch was intentionally
placed there.

I think it's great that you're interested in film locations. I've been a
Vancouver location hunter since 1995. I've also found that the more I
learned about the filmmaking process, the more respect I have about all the
craftsmanship and attention to tiny details that goes into it. One of my
gripes about the PS/SS DVD is that it didn't offer enough in the way of
behind-the-scenes documentary.

- Janine
ja9shahinian at sprynet.com





From sherratt at attbi.com  Fri Jul  5 20:22:43 2002
From: sherratt at attbi.com (wanda02481)
Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 20:22:43 -0000
Subject: Spoilers--Snape
In-Reply-To: <001a01c2195d$0f6c3d80$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <ag4v6j+68t5@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Felicia Rickmann" <feliciarickmann at d...> 
wrote:

> And later--on the 12th page--it clearly *is* the scene where he's 
just
> nabbed Ron and Harry, he's showing them the paper. I'd bet my life 
this is
> the same scene that the other shot is from.
> 
> I agree, they do tend to take huge liberties in favour in emotional 
and cinematic expedience (and who are we to argue - skips three feet 
above the floor and reviews cd copy of trailer......).
> 
> He looks worried.
> 

Myself, I thought he looked worried and even a bit *grieved* - a sort 
of "How COULD you?" expression.  Now, when the movie comes out, this 
scene will probably be a split-second before he says something really 
nasty, and he'll be reinstated as Harry's nemesis again, but that's an 
unusual expression in his eyes there, so I'll be interested in seeing 
the whole thing.

Wanda






From buffyeton at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  8 09:09:45 2002
From: buffyeton at yahoo.com (EtonBuffy)
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 09:09:45 -0000
Subject: Director for third movie
Message-ID: <agbksp+p7dv@eGroups.com>

Who do you think should direct the third movie.  Or, for really 
wishful thinkers, who do you think should have directed the first 
two?  Personally, I would chose, Alan Parker, because he has worked 
with children before and done a film adaption of a very popular book 
(Angela's Ashes).  He is also British.  Or maybe John Roberts who 
directed the film "War of the Buttons", a delightful film starring a 
great group of Irish children.  

Tamara




From kechelsen at aol.com  Mon Jul  8 21:30:14 2002
From: kechelsen at aol.com (kathye_c)
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 21:30:14 -0000
Subject: Director for third movie
In-Reply-To: <agbksp+p7dv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <agd096+fm23@eGroups.com>

When I read the article that listed possibilities for Chris Columbus' 
replacement, my first choice was Kenneth Branaugh.  




--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "EtonBuffy" <buffyeton at y...> wrote:
> Who do you think should direct the third movie.  Or, for really 
> wishful thinkers, who do you think should have directed the first 
> two?  Personally, I would chose, Alan Parker, because he has worked 
> with children before and done a film adaption of a very popular 
book 
> (Angela's Ashes).  He is also British.  Or maybe John Roberts who 
> directed the film "War of the Buttons", a delightful film starring 
a 
> great group of Irish children.  
> 
> Tamara




From Ali at zymurgy.org  Tue Jul  9 19:14:12 2002
From: Ali at zymurgy.org (alhewison)
Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 19:14:12 -0000
Subject: Director for third movie
In-Reply-To: <agd096+fm23@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <agfcm4+illq@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "kathye_c" <kechelsen at a...> wrote:
> When I read the article that listed possibilities for Chris 
Columbus' 
> replacement, my first choice was Kenneth Branaugh.  
> 
I agree with you. He has already worked with the cast, the existing 
Hogwarts set, and will presumably have a strong idea of whether he 
will be able to work within the parameters set out by JKR. If he can 
act with the kids, I don't think it's such a change to have to direct 
them (or their replacements, if God forbid, they're not in the next 
one!) In addition to which he is an established director. 
His "learning curve" won't be as steep as some of the others, 
whatever their capabilities as directors.
 
Ali
 





From kechelsen at aol.com  Tue Jul  9 21:30:06 2002
From: kechelsen at aol.com (kechelsen at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:30:06 EDT
Subject: Fwd: Director for third movie
Message-ID: <e4.2a485fc1.2a5cafde@aol.com>




> In a message dated 07/09/2002 5:14:18 PM Central European Daylight T, 
> itzregina at hanson.net writes:
> 
> 
> 
> >> JK seems to be very worried that Columbus is handing over the 
>> directors seat. 
>> 
>> http://news.scotsman.com/entertainment.cfm?id=733122002
>> 
>> 
>> Gina
>> 
> 
> 
> This was an interesting article, Gina.  Thanks for sharing.  
> 
> -----------------
> 





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Wed Jul 10 07:55:04 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (feliciarickmann)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:55:04 -0000
Subject: Director for third movie
In-Reply-To: <e4.2a485fc1.2a5cafde@aol.com>
Message-ID: <aggp8o+jn10@eGroups.com>

I appreciate our attention being drawn to the article on JKR. Thank 
you.

I can understand JKR's concern about getting a director who chimes in 
with her feelings for her characters.  I would be rather worried if 
someone was proposed with no track record that I admired, or at least 
knew of.

I can agree with previous posts that Kenneth Branagh would be a good 
choice, not just because he is in CoS but he had much experience at a 
high level in film making as well as stage work, and seems to be able 
to, as someone put it recently * melt into a role *.  This ability 
applies to directing as he has great empathy with the characters he 
directs.  

I had heard that another director had been proposed (his name escapes 
me for the moment, sorry) whose work I have not seen, but I believe 
he is Spanish.  Has anyone any comments on this directors work?

Felicia




From ShelaghC at aol.com  Wed Jul 10 13:57:06 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:57:06 -0000
Subject: Director for third movie
In-Reply-To: <aggp8o+jn10@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aghefi+62db@eGroups.com>

I'm a bit puzzled by that article since it was recently announced 
that Cuaron had been chosen already.

I was relieved that Branagh won't be directing, frankly. Yes, he 
worked with the kids, but that doesn't mean he can *direct* kids.

First, children - particularly those who have little or no training 
(and, let's face it, it doesn't matter that Emma and Rupert have been 
in movies, they don't have *training*) - have to be worked with 
differently than adults. Branagh has *never* directed children.

Second, his reputation as a director in the last few years, 
unfortunately, has suffered. He hasn't directed anything of any note 
for quite some time. As an actor, he can be superb. As a director, 
he's rather uneven.

Third, he's *never* directed anything that was aimed at a general 
audience. I'm not saying an audience of children, but an audience 
that could be kids *or* adults. And for my money, that's important 
with Harry Potter.

I've heard reasonably good things about Cuaron and he *has* directed 
both children and for general audiences quite successfully.

btw, with all the moaning and whining from people about how much they 
hated CC, I found it amusing that JKR herself felt that he shared her 
vision of the HP series and that she wasn't happy about him not 
directing again.

;->

Shelagh
first breakfast is late


--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "feliciarickmann" <feliciarickmann at d...> 
wrote:
> I appreciate our attention being drawn to the article on JKR. Thank 
> you.
> 
> I can understand JKR's concern about getting a director who chimes 
in 
> with her feelings for her characters.  I would be rather worried if 
> someone was proposed with no track record that I admired, or at 
least 
> knew of.
> 
> I can agree with previous posts that Kenneth Branagh would be a 
good 
> choice, not just because he is in CoS but he had much experience at 
a 
> high level in film making as well as stage work, and seems to be 
able 
> to, as someone put it recently * melt into a role *.  This ability 
> applies to directing as he has great empathy with the characters he 
> directs.  
> 
> I had heard that another director had been proposed (his name 
escapes 
> me for the moment, sorry) whose work I have not seen, but I believe 
> he is Spanish.  Has anyone any comments on this directors work?
> 
> Felicia




From hal.9000 at angelfire.com  Wed Jul 10 15:59:16 2002
From: hal.9000 at angelfire.com (hres2001)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:59:16 -0000
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Alfonso_Cuar=F3n__Re:_Director_for_third_movie_?=
In-Reply-To: <aggp8o+jn10@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aghlkk+qnr0@eGroups.com>

Alfonso Cuar?n is a Mexican director.  He directed "Y tu mam? 
tambi?n" out this year, a sex comedy, and the "Great Expectations" 
from a few years back with Ethan Hawke, Gwyneth Paltrow and Robert De 
De Niro.  Well made films all.  But the most probable reason that he 
was hired was probably because of "A Little Princess" from 1995.  
This film is lush, magical family movie.  It is funny, heart-
breaking, heart-warming and no corn in sight.  The man has great 
visual style and can do wonders with child actors.  I think he should 
have been hired from the start. :)

TTFN, HAL.

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "feliciarickmann" <feliciarickmann at d...> 
wrote:
 (snipped)
> 
> I had heard that another director had been proposed (his name 
escapes 
> me for the moment, sorry) whose work I have not seen, but I believe 
> he is Spanish.  Has anyone any comments on this directors work?
> 
> Felicia




From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Wed Jul 10 16:08:29 2002
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:08:29 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Alfonso =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Cuar=F3n__Re=3A_D?=
 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?irector_for_third_movie_?=
References: <aghlkk+qnr0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3D2C5BFD.1030405@kingwoodcable.com>

hres2001 wrote:
> Alfonso Cuarn is a Mexican director.  He directed "Y tu mam 
> tambin" out this year, a sex comedy, and the "Great Expectations" 
> from a few years back with Ethan Hawke, Gwyneth Paltrow and Robert De 
> De Niro.  Well made films all.  But the most probable reason that he 
> was hired was probably because of "A Little Princess" from 1995.  
> This film is lush, magical family movie.  It is funny, heart-
> breaking, heart-warming and no corn in sight.  The man has great 
> visual style and can do wonders with child actors.  I think he should 
> have been hired from the start. :)

He did a Little Princess? I love this version! Ok..I can breathe again - I think 
he'll do a fine job with HP.

Katze





From jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu  Wed Jul 10 18:16:39 2002
From: jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu (Jennifer Prescott)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:16:39 -0700
Subject: Alfonso =?iso-8859-1?Q?Cuar=F3n?=  Re: Director for third movie 
References: <aghlkk+qnr0@eGroups.com> <3D2C5BFD.1030405@kingwoodcable.com>
Message-ID: <3D2C7A07.11F1735C@ka.reg.uci.edu>

I wasn't aware that it had been *absolutely* confirmed that Cuarn was
hired to replace Columbus as director.
Who/What is the source of this information?

Cheers,
Jen

Katze wrote:
> 
> hres2001 wrote:
> > Alfonso Cuarn is a Mexican director.  He directed "Y tu mam
> > tambin" out this year, a sex comedy, and the "Great Expectations"
> > from a few years back with Ethan Hawke, Gwyneth Paltrow and Robert De
> > De Niro.  Well made films all.  But the most probable reason that he
> > was hired was probably because of "A Little Princess" from 1995.
> > This film is lush, magical family movie.  It is funny, heart-
> > breaking, heart-warming and no corn in sight.  The man has great
> > visual style and can do wonders with child actors.  I think he should
> > have been hired from the start. :)
> 
> He did a Little Princess? I love this version! Ok..I can breathe again - I think
> he'll do a fine job with HP.
> 
> Katze
>



From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Wed Jul 10 20:20:26 2002
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:20:26 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Alfonso =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Cuar=F3n__Re=3A?=
 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_Director_for_third_movie?=
References: <aghlkk+qnr0@eGroups.com> <3D2C5BFD.1030405@kingwoodcable.com> <3D2C7A07.11F1735C@ka.reg.uci.edu>
Message-ID: <3D2C970A.6000701@kingwoodcable.com>

Jennifer Prescott wrote:
> I wasn't aware that it had been *absolutely* confirmed that Cuarn was
> hired to replace Columbus as director.
> Who/What is the source of this information?
> 
> Cheers,
> Jen

I don't think it's 100%, but this particular entry in the Leaky Cualdron makes 
it sounds likes it's almost 100%.

http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2002_06_16_archive.html#78024805

Katze





From ShelaghC at aol.com  Thu Jul 11 01:31:50 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 01:31:50 -0000
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Alfonso_Cuar=F3n__Re:_Director_for_third_movie?=
In-Reply-To: <3D2C970A.6000701@kingwoodcable.com>
Message-ID: <agin66+biu@eGroups.com>

I knew I wasn't just mis-remembering.

Way back on June 22nd, when this news was new, I posted this posting:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-Movie/message/2761

Give it a looksee, folks?

Shelagh
wondering where folks were when she posted it way back when



--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Katze <jdumas at k...> wrote:
> Jennifer Prescott wrote:
> > I wasn't aware that it had been *absolutely* confirmed that 
Cuar?n was
> > hired to replace Columbus as director.
> > Who/What is the source of this information?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Jen
> 
> I don't think it's 100%, but this particular entry in the Leaky 
Cualdron makes 
> it sounds likes it's almost 100%.
> 
> http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2002_06_16_archive.html#78024805
> 
> Katze




From dorbandb at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 11 15:52:58 2002
From: dorbandb at yahoo.com (dorbandb)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:52:58 -0000
Subject: Flamel's wizard card on dvd
Message-ID: <agk9kq+5879@eGroups.com>

Greetings All,
As some of you may know there is ongoing debate on HP4GU regarding 
Flamel's wizard card being shown as part of the extras on the dvd 
release.  There has been no confirmation of this, however.  I assume 
that some of you here at the movie site have purchased this dvd, and I 
ask for your input:  Does the dvd show Flamel's wizard card?  If so, 
can it be read?  If so, what does it say?  Specifically, does it 
confirm that Flamel is a wizard, or not?  Thanks for any help with 
this.

Brian





From rvotaw at i-55.com  Fri Jul 12 01:47:27 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:47:27 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Flamel's wizard card on dvd
References: <agk9kq+5879@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <02a201c22946$51fd4ec0$f39ecdd1@istu757>

Brian writes:

> Greetings All,
> As some of you may know there is ongoing debate on HP4GU regarding
> Flamel's wizard card being shown as part of the extras on the dvd
> release.  There has been no confirmation of this, however.  I assume
> that some of you here at the movie site have purchased this dvd, and I
> ask for your input:  Does the dvd show Flamel's wizard card?  If so,
> can it be read?  If so, what does it say?  Specifically, does it
> confirm that Flamel is a wizard, or not?  Thanks for any help with
> this.

I have the DVD (and the video, for that matter) but this information is only
available if you have a DVD ROM on your computer.  Which I don't.  Which
makes it highly depressing knowing that stuff is there I can't get to!

Richelle





From Ali at zymurgy.org  Fri Jul 12 16:01:12 2002
From: Ali at zymurgy.org (alhewison)
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:01:12 -0000
Subject: Flamel's wizard card on dvd
In-Reply-To: <agk9kq+5879@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <agmug8+eps5@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "dorbandb" <dorbandb at y...> wrote:
>
  Does the dvd show Flamel's wizard card?  If so, 
> can it be read?  If so, what does it say?  Specifically, does it 
> confirm that Flamel is a wizard, or not?  Thanks for any help with 
> this.
> 
The deleted scene shows Ron toss Dumbledore's card at Harry. Harry 
then reads it, and just as the book finds Flamel mentioned as 
Dumbledore's alchemist partner. There is no separate Flamel card 
shown on the DVD at all. Unfortunately, this does not provide any 
further info on Flamel's Wizard/Muggle status.

Ali

(who bought a DVD player specially to play the DVD and is happy but 
broke!)




From sororavo at aol.com  Thu Jul 11 05:34:49 2002
From: sororavo at aol.com (soror_avo)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 05:34:49 -0000
Subject: More DVD Movie Pics...
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020601191656.009e9560@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <agj5dp+4vb0@eGroups.com>

Thank you so much for the screen caps from HP&SS - do you have any 
from the preview of Chamber of Secrets yet? 





From rvotaw at i-55.com  Fri Jul 12 04:09:27 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:09:27 -0500
Subject: SS/PS Video/DVD covers 
Message-ID: <004501c22959$eaaf9980$53a3cdd1@istu757>

I was looking at Harry Potter images on Google the other day, and the DVD/Video covers for the U.S. and British versions of SS/PS kept coming up.  I had never thought much about it, had only seen the U.S. edition, but was somewhat surprised to see how drastic the differences are.  The picture of Harry on the British edition seems much more "young and innocent," whereas the U.S. version seems to have more of an "attitude."  Has anyone else noticed these differences?  Any comments?

Richelle

------------------------------------
Richelle R. Votaw
1st grade teacher
Kentwood Elementary
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From sororavo at aol.com  Fri Jul 12 05:44:12 2002
From: sororavo at aol.com (soror_avo)
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 05:44:12 -0000
Subject: Rumors or truth
Message-ID: <aglqbc+2s93@eGroups.com>

I heard that the 3rd movie won't be released until 2004 - does anyone 
know if this is true?  Also - I've been looking at all the different 
screencaps for Chamber of Secrets - do you think they've axed 
Fawkes?  I was really looking forward to seeing a swan sized Phoenix!





From dorbandb at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 12 12:54:01 2002
From: dorbandb at yahoo.com (dorbandb)
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:54:01 -0000
Subject: Flamel's wizard card on dvd
In-Reply-To: <02a201c22946$51fd4ec0$f39ecdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <agmjh9+fmtt@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> wrote:

> I have the DVD (and the video, for that matter) but this information 
is only
> available if you have a DVD ROM on your computer.  Which I don't.  
Which
> makes it highly depressing knowing that stuff is there I can't get 
to!
> 
> Richelle

Hi Richelle,
Yeah, I heard about needing to have the DVD ROM to view the "extras" 
on the DVD over in HP4GU also.  I was hoping that someone among 
the videophiles here would have the technology.  Thanks for your 
response, though.

Brian 





From dorbandb at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 12 19:17:24 2002
From: dorbandb at yahoo.com (dorbandb)
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:17:24 -0000
Subject: Flamel's wizard card on dvd
In-Reply-To: <agmug8+eps5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <agna04+afl2@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "alhewison" <Ali at z...> wrote:

> The deleted scene shows Ron toss Dumbledore's card at Harry. Harry 
> then reads it, and just as the book finds Flamel mentioned as 
> Dumbledore's alchemist partner. There is no separate Flamel card 
> shown on the DVD at all. Unfortunately, this does not provide any 
> further info on Flamel's Wizard/Muggle status.
> 
> Ali
> 
> (who bought a DVD player specially to play the DVD and is happy but 
> broke!)

Thank you Ali!  You're right, it doesn't provide any further info, but 
that's OK as I would have been a little peeved if suddenly Flamel had 
a wizard card in the quasi-canonical dvd and nowhere else.  It is much 
better that this situation is still ambiguous within the accepted 
canon.  Thanks for your help...er, sorry ya' went broke :(

Brian





From chiflipgrl at aol.com  Sat Jul 13 19:51:17 2002
From: chiflipgrl at aol.com (chiflipgrl at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:51:17 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Rumors or truth
Message-ID: <8c.1afe368b.2a61deb5@aol.com>

Apparently, what's happening is that the cast/crew will be taking a year off. 
(They deserve it; they've been filming pretty much 2 and a half years 
straight.) So, after the year off, they'll begin filming PoA.

My only concern with that is this: won't some of the actors look kind of big 
by the time that filming starts? I mean, puberty works fast! :)

*~*~*~* Janice *~*~*~*


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From ShelaghC at aol.com  Sat Jul 13 20:40:01 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 20:40:01 -0000
Subject: Color (Colour) question
Message-ID: <agq371+3ike@eGroups.com>

What are the actual house colors for each house?

I believe that Gryffindor is maroon and gold and Slytherin is green 
and silver. Are those correct? Is there a particular shade of green 
specified?

What are Hufflepuff's and Ravenclaw's colors?

Thanks

Shelagh
looking for crayons






From morrigan at byz.org  Sat Jul 13 21:50:44 2002
From: morrigan at byz.org (Vicki)
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 14:50:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Color (Colour) question
In-Reply-To: <agq371+3ike@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.44.0207131445060.7103-100000@blood.byz.org>

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, shelaghcol wrote:

> What are the actual house colors for each house?
>
> I believe that Gryffindor is maroon and gold and Slytherin is green
> and silver. Are those correct? Is there a particular shade of green
> specified?

Gryffindor is actually red and gold, and the reds used in the movie were
darker, towards maroon, than towards orange.  Slytherin is green and
silver, with no shade of green specified, though everyone seems to
associate Slytherin with darker greens.

> What are Hufflepuff's and Ravenclaw's colors?

Hufflepuff is black and yellow, and Ravenclaw is blue and bronze.

I believe for any of these, your best reference for colors is to check out
official illustrations for each of the houses' crests.

Hope that helps!
Vicki




From editor at texas.net  Sat Jul 13 22:36:28 2002
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:36:28 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Color (Colour) question
References: <Pine.NEB.4.44.0207131445060.7103-100000@blood.byz.org>
Message-ID: <001101c22abd$bbb3bf20$2e7763d1@texas.net>

> On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, shelaghcol wrote:
>
> > What are the actual house colors for each house?

Vicki answered

> Gryffindor is actually red and gold, and the reds used in the movie were
> darker, towards maroon, than towards orange.  Slytherin is green and
> silver, with no shade of green specified, though everyone seems to
> associate Slytherin with darker greens.
>
> > What are Hufflepuff's and Ravenclaw's colors?
>
> Hufflepuff is black and yellow, and Ravenclaw is blue and bronze.
>
> I believe for any of these, your best reference for colors is to check out
> official illustrations for each of the houses' crests.

I will not go into my heraldic rant about the incorrect usage of the word
"crest" here; nobody wants to hear that.

Vicki is partly correct. To amplify, there is a difference between the
colors on a coat of arms and any associated livery, the latter being
identifying colors worn by a noble's household or by a group. The shades of
the liveries are usually not precisely the colors on the armory. Armorial
colors, those used on coats of arms, are bright and primary and bold. Livery
colors are often more understated versions of those bright heraldic colors.

So I'm listing both, the colors of the House coats, which are properly the
House "colors" when you use the term, and the House liveries (if you can
call scarves and ties liveries), which are what the students *wear.* [For
example, if you were decorating your room in Gryffindor's colors, you should
use red and gold/yellow (Heraldically, gold = bright yellow and silver =
white). But if you're knitting a Gryffindor scarf, you should use maroon and
golden yellow.]

Gryffindor's coat of arms bears a gold lion on red. The livery colors looked
to be maroon and golden yellow.

Slytherin bears a silver snake on green (heraldic greens are bright Kelley
green). Their livery looked to be a less enthusiastic but still true green
and white.

Ravenclaw bears a golden eagle on blue. I know, it's described as bronze,
but heraldically it would also be considered gold. I never looked close
enough in the movie to tell, but I'm betting they have a less golden, more
rusty yellow and a darker shade of blue than on the coat.

Hufflepuff, for no reason I can fathom, was altered. If you look closely at
the Hogwarts coat of arms (which combines all four Houses' coats), you'll
see that for some obscure reason they have changed the badger to
white/silver. ?? Ugh. They took this lovely design of a black badger on a
gold field, and made it white on gold. This is called Low Contrast--hard to
see from any distance away--and if their scarves are similarly white and
yellow, I repeat, Ugh. They *should* be black and yellow, but I don't know
that we saw any Hufflepuff students close up enough to know what they did
with them in the movie.

It gets confusing, because the liveries of the Houses are not very different
from their armorial colors. In actual usage, livery colors often had nothing
to do with the colors on a coat of arms, they'd just be what a particular
noble or king liked (as opposed to the colors on his coat, which he
inherited and had no say about). With the Houses, though, they are so very
close that the same words can be used for them unless you're getting very
techical about shades.

Now aren't you all glad I didn't run on and on about heraldry?

--Amanda Binns






From rvotaw at i-55.com  Sun Jul 14 02:36:49 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (rvotaw at i-55.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:36:49 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Rumors or truth
Message-ID: <1851698.1026614209682.JavaMail.root@webmail.i-55.com>

> I heard that the 3rd movie won't be released until 2004 - does anyone 
> know if this is true?  Also - I've been looking at all the different 
> screencaps for Chamber of Secrets - do you think they've axed 
> Fawkes?  I was really looking forward to seeing a swan sized Phoenix!

According to the Internet Movie Database (which is usually pretty accurate) PoA 
is scheduled for release in November 2004.  However, filming will be in early 
2003, which means the actors will still be the right ages (since Daniel 
Radcliffe won't be 14 until July of 2003, he'll be Harry's age still).  Kids at 
that age change so fast anyway, and with the movie showing, what, 10 months 
worth of growing in 4 months or so, we just don't see the kids grow like they 
do in real life!  I hate to wait too, but hopefully that means they will go 
straight into GoF after PoA is released.

Richelle

P.S. The Mexican director Alonzo   is now listed as director for PoA on IMDB.  
Has this been verified?  They usually don't put info up unless it's official, 
and I just noticed it today.  Of course, I haven't read all my email either, so 
I may have missed something.
  ----------

I heard that the 3rd movie won't be released until 2004 - does anyone 
know if this is true?  Also - I've been looking at all the different 
screencaps for Chamber of Secrets - do you think they've axed 
Fawkes?  I was really looking forward to seeing a swan sized Phoenix!




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From ShelaghC at aol.com  Sun Jul 14 23:09:06 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 23:09:06 -0000
Subject: Color answers
Message-ID: <agt0ai+gfnl@eGroups.com>

Thanks for the info, everyone that responded!

It'll help a lot

Shelagh
getting to work now





From bray.262 at osu.edu  Mon Jul 15 12:09:32 2002
From: bray.262 at osu.edu (Rachel Bray)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:09:32 +0000 (EST5EDT)
Subject: happy dance, happy dance!
Message-ID: <4682E944F9@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>

According to the pictures from the unseen trailer screen 
shots that the below website has received, it looks like 
the scene where Ron gets the howler has been filmed. I was 
hoping it would end up in the movie!  Then again, it could 
just as easliey end up on the editing room floor, 
too.....BUT...there's at least a chance it'll be in the 
movie!

http://www.harrypotterirc.co.uk/default.asp

Happy Snoopy dance all over my office today!  :-)

Rachel Bray
The Ohio State University
Fees, Deposits and Disbursements

LORD OF THE SNITCH
Three men form the chaser-squad under the sky 
Seven are the teammates on their brooms of wood
Two are Bludger balls charmed to fly
One is the dork Ref all on his own
On the field of Quidditch where the Quaffles lie.
One Snitch flits over all, one grab will win it
One game may take three months, or may take but a minute
On the field of Quidditch where the Quaffles lie.

http://home.att.net/~coriolan/hpfilks.htm



From manda at qx.net  Mon Jul 15 18:55:56 2002
From: manda at qx.net (Amanda Pressnell)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:55:56 -0700
Subject: House colors
In-Reply-To: <1026607865.354.13754.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <3D32B84C.18034.1947F4F@localhost>

"Amanda Geist" <editor at texas.net> wrote:
> 
> Hufflepuff, for no reason I can fathom, was altered. If you look
> closely at the Hogwarts coat of arms (which combines all four Houses'
> coats), you'll see that for some obscure reason they have changed the
> badger to white/silver. ?? Ugh. They took this lovely design of a
> black badger on a gold field, and made it white on gold. This is
> called Low Contrast--hard to see from any distance away--and if their
> scarves are similarly white and yellow, I repeat, Ugh. They *should*
> be black and yellow, but I don't know that we saw any Hufflepuff
> students close up enough to know what they did with them in the movie.

There's a photo at Rex Features of some of the student extras:

http://www.rexfeatures.com/cgi-bin/rppshimg0?i=379885L

Hufflepuff is yellow and black. The yellow appears to be lighter than Gryffindor's gold. 
Ravenclaw appears to be light blue and white.

A friend who works at the Wal-Mart bakery swiped four little cake toppers for me (don't laugh!), 
each with a house coat of arms on them. They say ? 2001 Warner Bros. They're all pretty 
much accurate to the book descriptions as far as I can remember. Ravenclaw's bronze is even 
a bit darker than Gryffindor's gold. Hufflepuff's badger is black with a sort of yellow face (or 
yellow highlighting).

Manda
who thinks she'll be getting a Star Wars cake for her birthday this week since she already has 
all the pieces of the Harry Potter one. heheh.
--
http://www.mandamia.com




From editor at texas.net  Mon Jul 15 20:28:33 2002
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:28:33 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: House colors
References: <3D32B84C.18034.1947F4F@localhost>
Message-ID: <003701c22c3e$321f45e0$347763d1@texas.net>

Thanks to Manda for the pic that shows the scarves!

Judging by this, the liveries (for the scarves, at least) are

Gryffindor - maroon and golden yellow
Slytherin - dark green and white
Ravenclaw - light blue and light gray (interesting departure from their
armory colors)
Hufflepuff - black and golden yellow

On the armory (coats of arms) - I have a set of House coat-of-arms candles,
about 2" high each--is this what you have? Because they show the armory
developed for the movie--the ones with divided fields and just the heads of
the animals.

The only armory officially illustrated in the books is the combined Hogwarts
coat, the quartered coat that has a full animal in each quadrant, with
undivided fields, and the H on the inescutcheon over all. That was a drawing
that appeared in the UK editions. Descriptions of the Houses' banners in the
text sound like each House's coat of arms is simply their quarter, which
would make sense. Any other designs were developed for the movie, pretty
much all depart from heraldic rules of contrast, and a few of them truly
suck (the ones with lozengy backgrounds).

I think the little appliqueed coats of arms on their robes *do* have the
entire animal, but over a divided field. These also have a helm and mantling
(the helmet at the top of the shield, with its mantling coming down on each
side of the shield).

I like the liveries they developed for the scarves. I think they went with
the light gray for Ravenclaw, rather than any shade of gold, to balance it
out visually--two of the houses' lighter color is a shade of yellow, two of
them have a shade of white.

--Amanda, always happy to waste bandlength discussing heraldry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Amanda Pressnell" <manda at qx.net>
To: <HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 1:55 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: House colors


"Amanda Geist" <editor at texas.net> wrote:
>
> Hufflepuff, for no reason I can fathom, was altered. If you look
> closely at the Hogwarts coat of arms (which combines all four Houses'
> coats), you'll see that for some obscure reason they have changed the
> badger to white/silver. ?? Ugh. They took this lovely design of a
> black badger on a gold field, and made it white on gold. This is
> called Low Contrast--hard to see from any distance away--and if their
> scarves are similarly white and yellow, I repeat, Ugh. They *should*
> be black and yellow, but I don't know that we saw any Hufflepuff
> students close up enough to know what they did with them in the movie.

There's a photo at Rex Features of some of the student extras:

http://www.rexfeatures.com/cgi-bin/rppshimg0?i=379885L

Hufflepuff is yellow and black. The yellow appears to be lighter than
Gryffindor's gold.
Ravenclaw appears to be light blue and white.

A friend who works at the Wal-Mart bakery swiped four little cake toppers
for me (don't laugh!),
each with a house coat of arms on them. They say  2001 Warner Bros. They're
all pretty
much accurate to the book descriptions as far as I can remember. Ravenclaw's
bronze is even
a bit darker than Gryffindor's gold. Hufflepuff's badger is black with a
sort of yellow face (or
yellow highlighting).

Manda
who thinks she'll be getting a Star Wars cake for her birthday this week
since she already has
all the pieces of the Harry Potter one. heheh.
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From plumeski at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 16 03:39:36 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 03:39:36 -0000
Subject: Rumors or truth
In-Reply-To: <8c.1afe368b.2a61deb5@aol.com>
Message-ID: <ah04ho+b3dr@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., chiflipgrl at a... wrote:
> Apparently, what's happening is that the cast/crew will be taking a 
year off. 
> (They deserve it; they've been filming pretty much 2 and a half 
years 
> straight.) So, after the year off, they'll begin filming PoA.

That's a new one on me. :-)

The situation as it stands at present (the reasoning works backwards) 
is:

No HP movie will come out in November 2003 because Warner Brothers 
have another mega-blockbuster planned for that time, namely the third 
Matrix movie (the second is out on 15 May 2003).

Warners decided that HP3 (PoA) will be released in Summer 2004 
instead. November 2004 would be too long a wait, and would constrain 
production on HP4 (GoF).

GoF is currently being planned to be made as two movies, one being 
released in November 2004, the other in December (there will be no 
LOTR with which to compete). Both movies would be produced at the 
same time, in the 18-month window after the release of HP3.

> My only concern with that is this: won't some of the actors look 
kind of big 
> by the time that filming starts? I mean, puberty works fast! :)

HP3 (PoA) is due to go into production in the spring of 2003. This 
gives them 18 months to complete it, before immediately launching 
into the production of GoF.

As a result, Daniel Radcliffe will only be about 6 months older than 
his character at the beginning of filming PoA and a year older than 
Harry's meant to be at end of making GoF.

This scheduling makes a great deal of sense for an unrelated but 
important reason: Daniel will be 14 in July 2003, which means that 
under English law, he will be entitled (unless his parents object) to 
spend the entire summer holidays working full days making the movie. 
This has a tremendous impact on the speed with which what will 
undoubtedly be a long movie can be made, not to mention the budget... 

I would also expect the Radcliffe family to get dispensation for him 
to delay taking his GCSEs (real-life equivalent of Hogwarts' OWLs) by 
one semester, so that he can spend part of the school year when he's 
15 working on finishing GoF. 

I fully expect that after GoF is made (if not before, depending on 
Daniel & his parents, and how he gets on at school) either Harry will 
be recast, or HP5 will be delayed by at least a year, to give Daniel 
a chance to concentrate on school and complete his GCSEs to his best 
ability. If I were in his parents' shoes, I'd not like the idea of 
his spending arguably the most important year of his education making 
movies...





From TACtalk at adelanta.co.uk  Tue Jul 16 10:19:50 2002
From: TACtalk at adelanta.co.uk (TACtalk at adelanta.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:19:50 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Director for third movie
Message-ID: <v01540b00b951fb5e732f@[212.56.33.24]>

I appreciate everyone's concerns about the director for the third movie.
I'm not much of an expert, so don't know what to say, but have admired
Branagh's Shakespeare work. I also saw and enjoyed 'A Little Princess'; a
visual feast!

The article about JKR's concern was interesting. However, I don't think
that the whole ethic of the movie hinges on the director; the interview
with David Hayman on the DVD of the movie made it pretty clear that he was
a huge fan, and, as exec producer, I would have thought that he would
choose a director who would be true to the books. Also; if I understand it
correctly, no one is going to do anything which will annoy JKR too much,
since she has not sold the rights to all of the books. If Warner do
anything with which she is not happy, I imagine that she has the option to
sell further rights to another studio.

Sorry to hear that that PoA will not be released until 2004  :-(
That's my favourite of the books so far.

Regards,
Nicholas






From Dar20 at aol.com  Thu Jul 18 19:29:55 2002
From: Dar20 at aol.com (darlenebuell)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:29:55 -0000
Subject: Flamel's wizard card on dvd
In-Reply-To: <02a201c22946$51fd4ec0$f39ecdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <ah74vj+nv4t@eGroups.com>

> I have the DVD (and the video, for that matter) but this 
information is only
> available if you have a DVD ROM on your computer.  Which I don't.  
Which
> makes it highly depressing knowing that stuff is there I can't get 
to!
> 
> Richelle

Richelle,

You can access the extras on the second disc with your DVD player.  
You just have to get through potions class alive to do it.

Dar




From bray.262 at osu.edu  Thu Jul 18 16:27:03 2002
From: bray.262 at osu.edu (Rachel Bray)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:27:03 +0000 (EST5EDT)
Subject: Rumors or truth AND 20 deleted scenes
Message-ID: <4B02B7212A@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>

>From what I understand they don't want to release Harry in 
2003 because around that same time is when the two Matrix 
movies will be released AND the last of Lord of the Rings.  
Big time competition.

All right.....you DVD experts out there get to work and see 
if there really are these 20 rumoured scenes floating 
around in the DVD world!!!!  I'm lucky to have found the 
basic 7!

Rachel Bray
The Ohio State University
Fees, Deposits and Disbursements

LORD OF THE SNITCH
Three men form the chaser-squad under the sky 
Seven are the teammates on their brooms of wood
Two are Bludger balls charmed to fly
One is the dork Ref all on his own
On the field of Quidditch where the Quaffles lie.
One Snitch flits over all, one grab will win it
One game may take three months, or may take but a minute
On the field of Quidditch where the Quaffles lie.

http://home.att.net/~coriolan/hpfilks.htm



From rvotaw at i-55.com  Thu Jul 18 21:09:06 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:09:06 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Flamel's wizard card on dvd
References: <ah74vj+nv4t@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <009b01c22e9f$5af0bf40$899ccdd1@istu757>

>
> Richelle,
>
> You can access the extras on the second disc with your DVD player.
> You just have to get through potions class alive to do it.
>
> Dar

For the regular DVD features yes, you can get to them that way, and you can
get to the deleted scenes by finding the Sorcerer's stone.  However, there
are additional features only available if you have a DVD-ROM, including
trading cards, sorting hat feature, and game previews.

Richelle




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Thu Jul 18 21:59:11 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (feliciarickmann)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:59:11 -0000
Subject: Deleted scenes then wandering off into PoA country
In-Reply-To: <4B02B7212A@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <ah7dnf+djap@eGroups.com>

I was wondering if the much talked of deleted scenes would be on the 
extra more * adult * orientated DVD, talked of a few weeks ago.  It 
would give them an *honourable * way out after spending all that 
money, (ahem) to at least let them see the light of day, if they 
exist of course.  

I also wondered, wandering on to another topic, if I am alone in 
thnking that a great deal rests on the reception to the third film, 
PoA, no necessarily on CoS.  Everyone will be so relieved to see HP 
again in some form as The Book That Must Not Be Named is not 
forthcoming so CoS is assured by fans at least, of a decent 
reception.  

However everyone, no exceptions, seems to have a great emotional 
investment and involvement in the characters of PoA : witness the 
intelligent (mostly) and lengthy discussions on Sirius, Severus, 
Remus et al over in the HPfGU * book * department.  Getting the 
casting of Remus Lupin right, who is according to Entertainment 
Weekly one of the most beloved characters in Potterverse, is for many 
people crucial and might dictate if a further film proceeds.  Chris 
Columbus said he thought it would be fascinating to see the 
characters all grow up, but I got the impression he was by no means 
certain it would be done.

Finally, (sorry) why do they feel obliged to make GoF into two films 
as I heard recently?   Not a grumble, just puzzled.  It is a large 
book but much can be condensed, in fact I thought it would be a fun 
project to pass away the time when I fly to New York in late September

Felicia

> 
> All right.....you DVD experts out there get to work and see 
> if there really are these 20 rumoured scenes floating 
> around in the DVD world!!!!  I'm lucky to have found the 
> basic 7!
> 
> Rachel Bray
> The Ohio State University
>




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Fri Jul 19 00:04:09 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:04:09 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Deleted scenes then wandering off into PoA country
References: <ah7dnf+djap@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001801c22eb7$cf314240$309dcdd1@istu757>

Felicia writes:

> I was wondering if the much talked of deleted scenes would be on the
> extra more * adult * orientated DVD, talked of a few weeks ago.  It
> would give them an *honourable * way out after spending all that
> money, (ahem) to at least let them see the light of day, if they
> exist of course.

I am thinking along the same lines myself.  Perhaps a "Special Edition" DVD.
I know there are more deleted scenes than the seven on the original DVD, due
to pictures I've seen that show scenes not in any of the movie or deleted
scene.  For example, the Harry Potter SS daily calendar has a picture of
Harry holding his flute from Hagrid at Christmas time, which is no where in
the movie or deleted scenes.  I thought a special edition release around
November/December during the CoS hype would be a great opportunity for WB to
make more $$$.  I know I'd be running out to buy it straight away!

> I also wondered, wandering on to another topic, if I am alone in
> thnking that a great deal rests on the reception to the third film,
> PoA, no necessarily on CoS.  Everyone will be so relieved to see HP

PoA leads us into the more "adult" HP, the darker parts of the stories.  CoS
is a transition between the wonder of it all and "fitting in."  More of the
fun part of Harry's life.  PoA is more intense.

> Remus et al over in the HPfGU * book * department.  Getting the
> casting of Remus Lupin right, who is according to Entertainment
> Weekly one of the most beloved characters in Potterverse, is for many
> people crucial and might dictate if a further film proceeds.  Chris

Very true, very true indeed.  Not only Lupin, but Sirius also.  These two
characters are critical for the success of PoA and further films.  If they
are cast as well as Snape was, it will be incredible!

> Columbus said he thought it would be fascinating to see the
> characters all grow up, but I got the impression he was by no means
> certain it would be done.

I think it would be great if they keep the same actors.  I think it can be
done, but I'm sure even the actors parents aren't quite sure if they want to
commit to the long hall yet.  They may be moving slowly with PoA not only to
get the casting right, but to let the actors "grow up" a little.  Daniel
Radcliffe is a wonderful actor, but some of the dementor scenes in PoA are
pretty intense and I'm sure maturity will help him there.

> Finally, (sorry) why do they feel obliged to make GoF into two films
> as I heard recently?   Not a grumble, just puzzled.  It is a large
> book but much can be condensed, in fact I thought it would be a fun
> project to pass away the time when I fly to New York in late September

There's so much that's important in GoF.  They've GOT to have the Quidditch
World Cup, that's crucial.  Plus all three of the parts of the TriWizard
championship, and of course the graveyard scene is critical and can't be cut
short in the least.  It alone should last a half hour I figure.  Then
there's all that "girl/boy" stuff going on.  For my purposes most of that
could be done away with, but they may feel a need to keep some of it to
further develop the characters and to get that "teenage" feel to it.

If it IS made into two movies, any ideas as to where it would be split?  It
would be perfect to have Cedric and Harry grab the cup, be transported, hear
"Kill the spare" "Avada Kedavra" and boom, Cedric's dead, to be continued.
However, that would leave one movie way too long and one too short!  Where
else would it be a dramatic cliff hanging event?  I've been trying to think
that out as well.

Richelle





From plumeski at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 19 00:27:53 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 00:27:53 -0000
Subject: Deleted scenes then wandering off into PoA country
In-Reply-To: <ah7dnf+djap@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ah7me9+anom@eGroups.com>

"feliciarickmann" wrote:
> I was wondering if the much talked of deleted scenes would be on 
the 
> extra more * adult * orientated DVD, talked of a few weeks ago.  It 
> would give them an *honourable * way out after spending all that 
> money, (ahem) to at least let them see the light of day, if they 
> exist of course.

I have significant doubts whether they do exist. The only thing we 
know for sure that was filmed but not included in the movie was 
Peeves, so perhaps some of that could come up. But I doubt there are 
a dozen sequences involved.
  
> I also wondered, wandering on to another topic, if I am alone in 
> thnking that a great deal rests on the reception to the third film, 
> PoA, no necessarily on CoS.  Everyone will be so relieved to see HP 
> again in some form as The Book That Must Not Be Named is not 
> forthcoming so CoS is assured by fans at least, of a decent 
> reception.  

I think that's a fair statement. By summer 2004 (the current 
projected release slot for PoA Movie) Book Five will have come out 
(!) and perhaps even Book Six. If I were in JKR's shoes, I'd use 
whatever clout I had to get Warners to release PoA Movie in June (or 
whatever summer blockbuster slot they have available), and release 
Book Six in the autumn - this would mean maximum exposure for the 
movie, and the book surfing on its coat-tails. Assuming Book Five 
comes out before the end of this year, or even as late as summer 
2003, we fans will have had enough of a dry spell to be geared up for 
PoA Movie. 

> However everyone, no exceptions, seems to have a great emotional 
> investment and involvement in the characters of PoA : witness the 
> intelligent (mostly) and lengthy discussions on Sirius, Severus, 
> Remus et al over in the HPfGU * book * department.  Getting the 
> casting of Remus Lupin right, who is according to Entertainment 
> Weekly one of the most beloved characters in Potterverse, is for 
many 
> people crucial and might dictate if a further film proceeds.  

Again, I agree. Also, these are adult characters with meaty parts to 
play (unlike, say, Dumbledore or even Hagrid) and if properly cast, 
might drive an adult audience (not necessarily HP fans) into the 
cinema. For the fans, having a "proper" Sirius and Remus will be the 
key to the movie's success. Radcliffe's blue eyes and Grint's non-
lankiness haven't stopped them being taken to fans' hearts, so I 
suspect that purely physical appearance won't be the key. Whether the 
actors chosen "embody" the characters will be far more important. 

As Columbus won't be directing it and the kids' contracts are up for 
renewal (the central half-dozen parts, including Neville, Draco, 
Dean, the Twins, etc, were only signed up for the first two movies), 
there is an additional fear that the new team might want some changes 
on that front. 

Whilst the change in directors won't be as blatant on screen as, say, 
between Batmans 2 and 3 (or, heaven help us, 4), I'm sure that there 
will several nuances which won't go unnoticed. And (assuming the 
original kids continue in their roles) whether the new  director has 
the same relationship with the kids as Columbus has enjoyed will also 
be a major factor.

> Chris 
> Columbus said he thought it would be fascinating to see the 
> characters all grow up, but I got the impression he was by no means 
> certain it would be done.

Of course he wasn't. :-) Apart from the fact that the shortcomings of 
11 or 12 year old actors are more easy to brush away than those of 14 
or 15 year olds (let's face it, each of the Trio had their weak 
points in the first movie!), these are real people with real lives to 
lead. Especially as both Radcliffe's and Watson's parents are 
(rightly) fiercely protective of their respective only chilren (Grint 
is a little different; on the one hand he comes from a large family, 
and already seems to be assured of an acting career), and there are 
well-documented cases of famous teenage film stars going wildly off 
the rails. 

Making movies is extremely disruptive both socially and academically 
for the young stars. Although they'll be in a position to demand (and 
get) mega-bucks for making each successive HP film, and thus assure 
their future financial independence, the question at the fortemost of 
their parents' minds is whether or not they're *happy*. Thankfully, 
in this case we won't see something we've seen several times before 
with child stars, where the parents make a grab for their kids' 
money - all of the Trio's parents are more than comfortably well off 
already! (I know someone who works with Mrs Watson, and the kind of 
money she makes would make most people green with envy.) :-)

A related issue I've raised several times before is that school years 
2004/2005 and 2005/2006 will be Radcliffe's and Watson's GCSE years 
at school - arguably the most important for any child in the British 
education system. I really don't see their parents allowing them to 
spend those years making movies, regardless of how well they're doing 
with on-set tuition. Warners will then have to decide whether to 
delay filming, or to recast the parts.

So of course it would be interesting both from the film-makers' and 
fans' perspective for the same actors to remain for the entire 
series, but there are just too many reasons why this might not become 
true. It's not impossible for it to happen (after all, some child 
actors have managed seven year stints on TV series), but it's going 
to be extremely difficult for all concerned.

Financial compensations aside, Radcliffe's not going to have an easy 
adult life as "The Man Who Was Harry Potter" if he makes all the HP 
movies, but if someone else takes on the part for later ones, at 
least he'll be able to share the moniker. Regardless of what he 
chooses to do with his life, especially if it's not in show business, 
that's one thing I do *not* envy him. I keep thinking about Mark 
Lester (Oliver Twist in "Oliver!" when he was ten, over 30 years 
ago), who despite having given up on showbiz in his teens and going 
into medical practice, is still occasionally hounded by gossip-
mongers.

> Finally, (sorry) why do they feel obliged to make GoF into two 
films 
> as I heard recently?   

What, you only just caught up with that one? :-) Columbus and Heyman 
have been repeating that as their ideal solution ever since they 
started working together...

> Not a grumble, just puzzled.  It is a large 
> book but much can be condensed, in fact I thought it would be a fun 
> project to pass away the time when I fly to New York in late 
September

I've been thinking about that a lot myself. A few numbers: GoF is 
just under three times the size of PS/SS; they lost perhaps one-fifth 
at most of PS/SS for the movie (yest still incurred the wrath of 
several fans), so even if they keep to the same kind of ratio, GoF 
Movie would still need to be over twice the length of PS/SS Movie.

I'm currently just finishing my first re-read (!) of GoF and have 
been thinking about what could be excised all along. 

Here are my thoughs, more or less in story order.

The Hogwarts Express and the Sorting can both go. The arrival of the 
other schools, the announcement of the Tournament and the wand-
weighing can be concatenated (all the last needs to do is to remind 
us what's inside Harry's wand, and to give John Hurt another 
cameo). :-) SPEW can be abbreviated to a side-plot. Personally, I'd 
gladly get rid of the whole Yule Ball and everything surrounding it, 
but I fear this won't happen. Harry's discovery of the egg's "secret" 
can be made into less of a climax and the whole Prefects' Bathroom 
sequence could go. 

What *can't* be lost? In order, going to the Weasleys, the World Cup 
(it's the only instance of flying other than the First Task, and 
people want to see flying in an HP movie!) Events surrounding the 
World Cup (meeting various MOM folk, the Twins' bet, the Dark Mark, 
etc). The concept of the Portkey has to be introduced as well. 
Moody's "problems" could be introduced at that point, too.

The first sequence with Sirius (in the cave) is needed to tie 
together several expositional matters. I'd dearly love to get rid of 
Rita Skeeter as well, and although a couple of her bits push the 
narrative forward, this could be done by Dumbledore, McGonagall or 
even Sirius. I'd also like to get rid of the Pensieve (it smacks too 
much of a plot device to me) and have Crouch Jr's trial told in a 
straight flashback. 

I can't really see anything from the introduction of the Third Task 
onwards which could be chucked out. 

All in all, I really can't see this story being told in less than 3-
3.5 hours and that is an *awfully* long movie to target at kids...

I think I have more to say, but it's late and perhaps I should shut 
up.

--
GulPlum AKA Richard, UK





From plumeski at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 19 01:10:52 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 01:10:52 -0000
Subject: GoF Movie
In-Reply-To: <001801c22eb7$cf314240$309dcdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <ah7ous+fc5s@eGroups.com>

"Richelle Votaw" wrote:

<snipperama>

>If it IS made into two movies, any ideas as to where it would be 
split?  It
> would be perfect to have Cedric and Harry grab the cup, be 
transported, hear
> "Kill the spare" "Avada Kedavra" and boom, Cedric's dead, to be 
continued.
> However, that would leave one movie way too long and one too 
short!  Where
> else would it be a dramatic cliff hanging event?  I've been trying 
to think
> that out as well.

It doesn't necessarily have to be a cliff hanger, just a dramatic 
climax. Also, whilst the movies can be of uneven length, the only 
market-sensible way to do it is to have the second movie longer than 
the first. Having people sit through a lengthy exposition without 
satisfying them with a conclusion is a difficult position to be in. 
People would be far more forgiving if the first movie's length was 
more forgiving on their backsides. :-)

I've always assumed that the best place to end the first movie is at 
the end of the First Task (Chapter 20). Apart from being almost in 
the mathematical middle of the book, it's a dramatically satisfying 
moment for several reasons. The First Task itself is a rather 
spectacular note on which to end a movie, and Harry & Ron's strained 
friendship is repaired. There are also a few tears from Hermione to 
leave the audience suitably bleary-eyed as well.

It's a moment of pure triumph in dramatic terms, yet it's asked more 
than enough questions to get people interested in what happens next. 
Especially if the level of Harry's injury is brought up a notch. :-)

And of course, Chapter 20 ends with the perfect words on which to end 
a movie. Rita Skeeter asks Harry if he has a word for her. Harry 
answers "Yes I do. Goodbye".

:-)







From Ali at zymurgy.org  Fri Jul 19 19:17:58 2002
From: Ali at zymurgy.org (alhewison)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:17:58 -0000
Subject: Young stars futures was Re: Deleted scenes then wandering off into PoA country
In-Reply-To: <ah7me9+anom@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ah9ol6+131n@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "GulPlum" <plumeski at y...> wrote:
 
> As Columbus won't be directing it and the kids' contracts are up 
for renewal (the central half-dozen parts, including Neville, Draco, 
> Dean, the Twins, etc, were only signed up for the first two 
movies), there is an additional fear that the new team might want 
some changes on that front. 
> 
Felicia said:-
> > Chris Columbus said he thought it would be fascinating to see the 
> > characters all grow up, but I got the impression he was by no 
means  certain it would be done.

GulPlum said:
 
> Of course he wasn't. :-) Apart from the fact that the shortcomings 
of  11 or 12 year old actors are more easy to brush away than those 
of 14 or 15 year olds (let's face it, each of the Trio had their weak 
> points in the first movie!), these are real people with real lives 
to lead. Especially as both Radcliffe's and Watson's parents are 
> (rightly) fiercely protective of their respective only chilren 
(Grint is a little different; on the one hand he comes from a large 
family, and already seems to be assured of an acting career), and 
there are well-documented cases of famous teenage film stars going 
wildly off the rails. 
> 

I'm interested in why you cite Rupert Grint's case as different to 
Daniel Radcliffe's and Emma Watson's. Surely coming from a large 
family doesn't presuppose that his parents are not fiercely 
protective? I'm also a little unsure as to why he should be assured 
an acting career. Whilst I agree that he is good, and has already 
gone onto to star in Thunderpants, the fact remains that he is only 
13. Not only would he need to wish to continue to act, but surely he 
would have to carry on developing as an actor? Whiilst probable, this 
is not assured.


> Making movies is extremely disruptive both socially and 
academically for the young stars. (snip) the question at the 
fortemost of their parents' minds is whether or not they're *happy*. 
Thankfully, in this case we won't see something we've seen several 
times before  with child stars, where the parents make a grab for 
their kids' money - all of the Trio's parents are more than 
comfortably well off  already! (I know someone who works with Mrs 
Watson, and the kind of  money she makes would make most people green 
with envy.) :-)

I agree, the key question to me is whether they are happy. The 
academic side doesn't worry me so much, as I remember reading that 
Daniel Radcliffe had actually performed better academically since 
starting the filming - presumably because of the one-to-one tuition. 
But the social aspect is something that can't be taken up later. I 
also know someone who works with Mrs Watson, and as I understand it 
socially things have changed. The kids are quite simply away from 
their school mates too much, their experiences are now very different 
from the majority of kids their age. Yet, they will still go through 
all the normal pangs of adolescence that we  so love discussing on 
the main board! However *wonderful* it might sound to be rich and 
famous at such a young age, I imagine it will also be quite lonely to 
be so set apart. They are lucky that there is a group of them.


> 
> A related issue I've raised several times before is that school 
years 2004/2005 and 2005/2006 will be Radcliffe's and Watson's GCSE 
years  at school - arguably the most important for any child in the 
British education system. I really don't see their parents allowing 
them to  spend those years making movies, regardless of how well 
they're doing with on-set tuition. Warners will then have to decide 
whether to delay filming, or to recast the parts.

Surely, if they are doing well with on-set tuition then carrying on 
with the movies would not be a problem - as long as there was a 
substantial gap whilst they were actually taking the exams. I agree 
though psychologically a complete break would be better. 
 
> Financial compensations aside, Radcliffe's not going to have an 
easy adult life as "The Man Who Was Harry Potter" if he makes all the 
HP movies, but if someone else takes on the part for later ones, at 
> least he'll be able to share the moniker. 

I actually can't see that it will make much difference to Dan whether 
someone else plays Harry Potter as well. He will always be remembered 
as the first Harry. What will matter is how much he is able to move 
on from the experience. Only time will tell. If the trio are given 
the choice to continue in their roles, I would not want to be in 
their parents shoes to make the final decision. (And yes, ultimately 
it would be the parents decision whatever the young actors desire) 


Ali

Who does worry for the young actors, and would not like her little 
kids to become child stars!




From sororavo at aol.com  Sat Jul 20 19:58:02 2002
From: sororavo at aol.com (soror_avo)
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 19:58:02 -0000
Subject: Who do you see as Lupus?
Message-ID: <ahcfca+alge@eGroups.com>

I know they're sticking with UK actors - but how about Hugh Jackman?

Kathy




From plumeski at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 20 22:33:31 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 22:33:31 -0000
Subject: Who do you see as Lupus?
In-Reply-To: <ahcfca+alge@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ahcofr+p89g@eGroups.com>

"soror_avo" wrote:
> I know they're sticking with UK actors - but how about Hugh Jackman?

No. Because he's already played a werewolf in an equally celebrated 
genre movie (to be joined by a second by the time PoA comes out) and 
they won't want to be putting ideas into the heads of people who've 
not read the book.





From nightngle at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 20 21:39:17 2002
From: nightngle at yahoo.com (nightngle)
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:39:17 -0000
Subject: Professor McGonagall's garb
Message-ID: <ahcla5+r4ve@eGroups.com>

Hi! I'm new to the group, and glad I found you! :)

My hobby is making garb (historical and some fantasy), and being a 
fan of HP, I'm considering doing a costume recreation of Professor 
McGonagall (I want a new costume for myself, and she is the best fit 
for me).

I've just started my research, but thought I'd ask you fine folks for 
some help as well. For her professorial robes, she wears a beautiful 
brooch at her neck. I know I've seen this shape, but so far, I'm not 
finding it. Does anyone have an idea what this brooch would be called?

The other jewelry she wears is a small circular pin on her lapel. 
It's hard to see, so I don't have an detail for it. Anyone here lucky 
enough to see any of these costumes in real life?

The last question for now, is the name of the tartan she wears for an 
outer garment and hat at the quidditch match. I LOVE that hat! I 
cracked up when I saw those ear flaps! I'm dying to make this, 
especially. :)

If anyone is doing their own costume making, I'd love to hear what 
you're making, and I'll be happy to share my progress if anyone is 
interested.

Thanks for reading my post! :)

Nightengale Murphy





From nightngle at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 20 21:54:26 2002
From: nightngle at yahoo.com (nightngle)
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:54:26 -0000
Subject: Who do you see as Lupus?
In-Reply-To: <ahcfca+alge@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ahcm6i+n5pf@eGroups.com>

Personally, I love to see David Bowie as Remus Lupin. I guess that's 
a bit unconventional. I've hear rumors of Ewen MacGreggor doing 
Remus, but I'd see him as more Sirius.





From rvotaw at i-55.com  Sun Jul 21 01:59:59 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 20:59:59 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Who do you see as Lupus?
References: <ahcm6i+n5pf@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00a201c2305a$5225e400$85a2cdd1@istu757>

I've heard rumors of Christian Bale as Lupin.  He's pretty much what I
imagined Sirius as, though.  I guess if you put some grey through his hair
he could pass for Lupin, though.

Any ideas as to when WB'll get around announcing these parts?  Lupin and
Sirius are critical for this movie.  Duh. ;)

Richelle




From plumeski at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 21 02:01:31 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 02:01:31 -0000
Subject: Young stars futures was Re: Deleted scenes then wandering off into PoA country
In-Reply-To: <ah9ol6+131n@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ahd4lr+1u2d@eGroups.com>

"alhewison" wrote, responding to my previous post:

> I'm interested in why you cite Rupert Grint's case as different to 
> Daniel Radcliffe's and Emma Watson's. Surely coming from a large 
> family doesn't presuppose that his parents are not fiercely 
> protective? 

I wasn't assuming that to be the case at all. ;-) I expect his 
parents to be no more or less protective of him than the other stars' 
parents. I also don't expect them to treat him any differently from 
his siblings. 

And therein lies part of what I meant - one of the major issues for 
anyone, let alone a child, suddenly become becoming rich and famous 
is being treated differently by friends and acquaintances. The good 
(and sometimes bad) :-) thing about siblings is that that they treat 
you the same way all the time, regardless of success or failure. 
Rupert's brothers and sister will, I'm sure, make him feel well 
grounded and whilst offering him all the support and protection he 
needs from over-zealous fans and media, will ensure that he remembers 
that he's still the same person. I'm also sure that his parents won't 
treat him any differently from the rest of the brood. For the last 
several months, he's had an undoubtedly strange routine what with 
filming and all, but for the next few weeks, the summer holidays will 
bring everything back to "normal" and he'll get some quality family 
time. 

Dan's dad is also his agent and professional chaperone, so they 
probably have a very strange relationship. Whilst I'm sure that Dan's 
old friends are still around and he spends as much time with them as 
he can, he's not been to his regular school for most of the school 
year and I'm sure he's well out of kilter with his peers. On a 
completely different level, Dan's a passionate Fulham Football Club 
supporter. For the next season, his team's moving their base 80 miles 
away, and I'm sure that having to travel over an hour each way to 
attend matches is preying on his mind, compared to the 10 minute walk 
he's enjoyed to their home ground previously. :-)

> I'm also a little unsure as to why he should be assured 
> an acting career. Whilst I agree that he is good, and has already 
> gone onto to star in Thunderpants, the fact remains that he is only 
> 13. Not only would he need to wish to continue to act, but surely 
he 
> would have to carry on developing as an actor? Whiilst probable, 
this 
> is not assured.

OK, he's not assured a career. But despite Thunderpants being a 
financial flop (releasing it head-to-head against Star Wars wasn't a 
good idea!) it was reasonably well received, Rupert in particular (in 
a VERY different part from that of Ron Weasley). 

I'm sure he's going to get lots of offers, and he has all the makings 
of a fine comedy actor already. The acting bug has definitely bitten 
him, and unless he does something stupid, he's bound to be a success.

> However *wonderful* it might sound to be rich and 
> famous at such a young age, I imagine it will also be quite lonely 
to 
> be so set apart. They are lucky that there is a group of them.

Indeed. The fact that the actors seem to have become as firm friends 
as their characters will, I'm sure, be a great help and comfort to 
them. I remain slightly worried for Emma, though -  they boys have 
each other to lean on, and I recall she was complaining about having 
too few girl friends around the set. 

<snip GCSEs>

> Surely, if they are doing well with on-set tuition then carrying on 
> with the movies would not be a problem - as long as there was a 
> substantial gap whilst they were actually taking the exams. I agree 
> though psychologically a complete break would be better. 

It's not as simple as that. A significant proportion of GCSEs 
is "course work" and kids have a *lot* of work on their hands. One of 
my nieces has just taken hers and had to put her social life on hold 
for the whole of the last year (and more). There simply isn't enough 
time for more than school. And she wasn't taking very many subjects 
either...

I agree, though, that the psychological importance is far greater 
than simple scheduling.

> Ali
> 
> Who does worry for the young actors, and would not like her little 
> kids to become child stars!

Absolutely. I can certainly understand the Radcliffes' reservations 
about allowing him to take on the part, although on the evidence to 
date, it seems to be working OK. What the future holds remains to be 
seen, though...





From ginger_peachy130 at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 21 10:48:29 2002
From: ginger_peachy130 at hotmail.com (ginger_peachy130)
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 10:48:29 -0000
Subject: Who do you see as Lupin?
In-Reply-To: <ahcfca+alge@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ahe3ht+eu8b@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "soror_avo" <sororavo at a...> wrote:
> I know they're sticking with UK actors

Does anyone know if the actor that played James Potter is British? I 
was looking at his IMDB filmography and his early stuff was mostly 
Australian (incl. Neighbours). Since it was a non-speaking part I 
don't suppose it really mattered either way.

Alexis

 - but how about Hugh Jackman?


> 
> Kathy







From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Sun Jul 21 18:39:20 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (feliciarickmann)
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:39:20 -0000
Subject: What to take out - GoF
In-Reply-To: <ah7me9+anom@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ahev4o+ivh8@eGroups.com>

 Gulplus said * I'm currently just finishing my first re-read (!) of 
GoF and have been thinking about what could be excised all along.*

I am going to keep a copy of your thoughts for when I get around to 
editing the story for film in September (well I ahve to do something 
on a  very very long flight) but have a few comments pro tem.

> The Hogwarts Express and the Sorting can both go. 

Definitely, the novelty will have worn off by then and it's cut to 
the first intersting bit i.e.

>The arrival of the other schools, the announcement of the Tournament 
>and the wand-weighing can be concatenated (all the last needs to do 
is to remind us what's inside Harry's wand, and to give John Hurt 
another cameo). :-) 

Rita could also be (very) briefly introduced here and her further 
appearances kept to a minimum. (Please!)

SPEW can be abbreviated to a side-plot. Personally, I'd 
> gladly get rid of the whole Yule Ball and everything surrounding 
it, but I fear this won't happen. 

Agreed.

>Harry's discovery of the egg's "secret" can be made into less of a 
>climax and the whole Prefects' Bathroom sequence could go. 
 
Oh shame!!! I would willingly forgo the Yule Ball, in return for the 
bathroom scene, if only for the special effects. After all Cedric is 
using it as his means of returning Harry's earlier favour.


>What *can't* be lost? In order, going to the Weasleys, the World Cup 
> (it's the only instance of flying other than the First Task, and 
> people want to see flying in an HP movie!) Events surrounding the 
> World Cup (meeting various MOM folk, the Twins' bet, the Dark Mark, 
> etc). The concept of the Portkey has to be introduced as well. 
> Moody's "problems" could be introduced at that point, too.

I always thought the World Cup could be heavily abbreviated as much 
of it is description and it's amazing what you can squeeze into half 
an hour.... but never mind.

> The first sequence with Sirius (in the cave) is needed to tie 
> together several expositional matters. I'd dearly love to get rid 
>of Rita Skeeter as well, and although a couple of her bits push the 
> narrative forward, this could be done by Dumbledore, McGonagall or 
> even Sirius

Fair enough.  Although Rita does come into her own, being a beetle 
and causing problems etc., and is ultimately caught by Hermione which 
is a lovely part of the book's ending.  It depends if they ahve the 
luxury of indulging in a character who always truck me as being too 
close to Dame Edna Everage for comfort....

>I'd also like to get rid of the Pensieve (it smacks too much of a 
>plot device to me) and have Crouch Jr's trial told in a straight 
>flashback. 

NO!!  I think the pensieve is a masterstoke, almost as ood as the end 
of PoA but NOT QUITE.  I think it's a wonderful plot device for 
flashback.  Sorry the pensieve stays in some form or other....

> I can't really see anything from the introduction of the Third Task 
> onwards which could be chucked out. All in all, I really can't see 
>this story being told in less than 3- 3.5 hours and that is an 
>*awfully* long movie to target at kids...

Much extraneous matter about Hagrid & Madam Maxim could be condensed 
maybe?  

Better re-read it myself, and as a Book this time, not accompanied by 
Stephen Fry.....

Felicia
pleased to see CoS as a PC game is due 8th November * g *




From plumeski at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 22 03:12:28 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 03:12:28 -0000
Subject: PoA Movie: Director accounced
Message-ID: <ahft6s+iee2@eGroups.com>

Alfonso Cuaron has been confirmed as the director of PoA:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/film/newsid_2142000/214
2908.stm

-- 
GulPlum AKA Richard, UK




From DaveH47 at mindspring.com  Mon Jul 22 17:40:58 2002
From: DaveH47 at mindspring.com (Dave Hardenbrook)
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:40:58 -0700
Subject: What to take out - GoF
In-Reply-To: <1027309022.259.90532.m12@yahoogroups.com>
References: <1027309022.259.90532.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <4770296499.20020722104058@mindspring.com>


Sunday, July 21, 2002, 8:37:02 PM, "feliciarickmann" wrote:

HMyc> NO!!  I think the pensieve is a masterstoke, almost as ood as the end
HMyc> of PoA but NOT QUITE.  I think it's a wonderful plot device for 
HMyc> flashback.  Sorry the pensieve stays in some form or other....

I think the Pensieve could easily be condensed into *one* scene, with
Karkaroff, Bagman, Crouch Jr., and Mrs. Lestrange all there together,
with Barty Sr. interrogating them one after another.

HMyc> Much extraneous matter about Hagrid & Madam Maxim could be condensed 
HMyc> maybe?

That whole subplot could probably go.

HMyc> pleased to see CoS as a PC game is due 8th November * g *

That *is* good news... :)

-- 
Dave




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Mon Jul 22 17:55:03 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:55:03 +0100
Subject: PoA Movie: Director accounced
References: <ahft6s+iee2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <003901c231a8$e7f11b40$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Ah if the BBC says it's true then it must be.  Even if half the link fell off my copy of the post, they even mention The Little Princess.  Can anayone tell me if it's out on video as I would like to take a look.  Especially as one or two HPfGU fans liked that.

Nice also, to see a picture of Gilderoy Lockhart.  I now have to catch up on the posts about cutting up the Goblet of Fire...

Many thanks for the confirmation.  Now find one about who plays Remus Lupin, unless of course they are going to have something akin to the Search for Scarlett O'Hara in Gone with the Wind, i.e. a worldwide search for a British (ahem) actor to fill the shoes of cinema's most thought about role in years!


Felicia
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: GulPlum 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 4:12 AM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA Movie: Director accounced


  Alfonso Cuaron has been confirmed as the director of PoA:

  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/film/newsid_2142000/214
  2908.stm

  -- 
  GulPlum AKA Richard, UK


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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Mon Jul 22 18:12:16 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (feliciarickmann)
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:12:16 -0000
Subject: What to take out - GoF
In-Reply-To: <4770296499.20020722104058@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <ahhhu0+98j8@eGroups.com>

OK as long as the special effects are good.  I think it is a unique 
twist on flashbacks, that's all.  I would hate to see it excised 
forever.

> I think the Pensieve could easily be condensed into *one* scene, 
with Karkaroff, Bagman, Crouch Jr., and Mrs. Lestrange all there 
together,with Barty Sr. interrogating them one after another.

>  Much extraneous matter about Hagrid & Madam Maxim could be 
condensed 
> HMyc> maybe? 
> That whole subplot could probably go.

I'm not so sure that was one big question mark in the book.  After 
all Hagrid did not HAVE to make up at the end with Madame Maxime but 
he did.  This is one of those current imponderables and, as such, 
should, pro tem, be relegated to. OK compromise, a few mentions and 
one or two film shots.

> 
> HMyc> pleased to see CoS as a PC game is due 8th November * g *
> 
> That *is* good news... :)
> Dave

It is for someone who can't get Lara Croft to do as she is told let 
alone jump very far but CAN get Harry Potter to move in a straight 
line! To find a game I can actually play without getting shot to 
death in three seconds and having to remember dozens of instructions 
for weapons, leaps and what handbag to hit them with is quite amazing.

Felicia
not one of life's natural gamers....




From editor at texas.net  Mon Jul 22 20:04:51 2002
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:04:51 -0500
Subject: Rickman snippets, nothing major
Message-ID: <002e01c231bb$0b84e7a0$037d63d1@texas.net>

A little tidbit I lifted from an entry on the Alan Rickman Guestbook. I had
not heard either of these things and thought you guys might like them, too.

--Amanda

<begin tidbit>

I watched an interview on T.V. with Emma Watson. She said that during the
filming of HP, in the potions class scene where AR burst through the door,
she said that he hit the wall on his way in and fell backwards on his back!
She said every student in the class stood up to see him.

She also said that during the part where AR says "Mr. Potter, our new
celebrity" and he twirls his hand, that AR COULD NOT stop laughing in the
middle of his lines. They had to shoot that scene for 2 hours before he got
it right!
Jasmine
- Sunday, July 14, 2002 at 14:49:17 (PDT)

<end tidbit>




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Mon Jul 22 20:13:23 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:13:23 +0100
Subject: Rickman snippets, nothing major (what nothing....!)
References: <002e01c231bb$0b84e7a0$037d63d1@texas.net>
Message-ID: <001c01c231bc$3b115700$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Those of us who admire the illustrious actor involved in mentioned in this post, are currently rolling about the floor in fits of hysterics at the thought of our much admired thespian (I said Thespian) indulging in such shenanigans.

However, as this is a serious newsgroup with a serious and moderated output and as I will be shot for a short post...... pace illustrious Moderators you walk on water....

May I start the bidding for the series of out takes, which must be available somewhere, at $100.......

Felicia
a serious student of AR although not, say, on the front row in August....... and determined to steer a serious course through Rickman hysteria.........to Uncle Severus in film seven......



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Amanda Geist 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 9:04 PM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Rickman snippets, nothing major


  A little tidbit I lifted from an entry on the Alan Rickman Guestbook. I had
  not heard either of these things and thought you guys might like them, too.

  --Amanda

  <begin tidbit>

  I watched an interview on T.V. with Emma Watson. She said that during the
  filming of HP, in the potions class scene where AR burst through the door,
  she said that he hit the wall on his way in and fell backwards on his back!
  She said every student in the class stood up to see him.

  She also said that during the part where AR says "Mr. Potter, our new
  celebrity" and he twirls his hand, that AR COULD NOT stop laughing in the
  middle of his lines. They had to shoot that scene for 2 hours before he got
  it right!
  Jasmine
  - Sunday, July 14, 2002 at 14:49:17 (PDT)

  <end tidbit>


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From plumeski at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 22 20:59:27 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:59:27 -0000
Subject: PoA Movie: Director announced
In-Reply-To: <003901c231a8$e7f11b40$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <ahhrnf+n0t2@eGroups.com>

(type in message subject duly corrected) :-)

"Felicia Rickmann" wrote:
> Ah if the BBC says it's true then it must be. 

It's since been on just about every news service, both online and in 
the real world. I originally noticed the article because I went 
looking for it, having read the story on the BBC's teletext 
service. :-)

>  Even if half the link fell off my copy of the post, they even 
mention The Little Princess.  Can anayone tell me if it's out on 
video as I would like to take a look.  Especially as one or two HPfGU 
fans liked that.

Yes, it has been released. BTW the title is "*A* Little Princess". I 
think I even saw it going cheap in the HMV sale last week...

(I have no intention of getting it myself BTW.) :-)

> Many thanks for the confirmation.  Now find one about who plays 
Remus Lupin, unless of course they are going to have something akin 
to the Search for Scarlett O'Hara in Gone with the Wind, i.e. a 
worldwide search for a British (ahem) actor to fill the shoes of 
cinema's most thought about role in years!

A start date for principal photography hasn't been confirmed yet, but 
it's expected to be around Easter-time, which means they have a long 
time to make up their minds. Besides, as with Lockhart, there's lots 
they can film before getting around to casting Remus or Sirius.

I wouldn't expect an announcement until well after Christmas. In any 
case, there'll doubtless be loads of speculation (planted by the 
production team) about who's in the running before the final decision 
is made... :-)

I suspect there won't be a major search, but the production team will 
go for known "faces" for both parts. The only issue is whether 
they'll play as loose with the ages as assumed from the books as they 
did with Rickman (who I agree was an inspired choice, but the fact 
remains that he's considerably older than book-Snape would appear to 
be).

-- 
GulPlum AKA Richard, UK






From rvotaw at i-55.com  Tue Jul 23 00:10:22 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:10:22 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA Movie: Director accounced
References: <ahft6s+iee2@eGroups.com> <003901c231a8$e7f11b40$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <013001c231dd$56e86740$cf9ccdd1@istu757>


> Ah if the BBC says it's true then it must be.  Even if half the link fell
off my copy of the post, they even mention The Little Princess.  Can anayone
tell me if it's out on video as I would like to take a look.  Especially as
one or two HPfGU fans liked that.


Yes, it is on video, I saw it a while back.  It was very good too, I liked
it much better than any other Little Princess movie.  I think Cuaron (sp?)
will do a fine job with PoA.

Richelle




From nanstey2001 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 23 02:33:49 2002
From: nanstey2001 at yahoo.com (nanstey2001)
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 02:33:49 -0000
Subject: Who do you see as Lupus?
In-Reply-To: <00a201c2305a$5225e400$85a2cdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <ahifad+aq6s@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> wrote:
> I've heard rumors of Christian Bale as Lupin.  He's pretty much what 
I
> imagined Sirius as, though.  I guess if you put some grey through 
his hair
> he could pass for Lupin, though.
> 
> Any ideas as to when WB'll get around announcing these parts?  Lupin 
and
> Sirius are critical for this movie.  Duh. ;)
> 
> Richelle

I see Hugh Jackman as Sirius.  He has the gruffness needed for 
Sirius' character, the real look for the part, and has the raw talent 
to live up to expectations. As for Lupin, though, he's a tough one.  I 
think they might be best off casting a complete unknown as Lupin, just 
to eliminate any expectation and argument, and let the character just 
be, rather than thinking, "Oh, there's Christian Bale playing Lupin." 
or anyone else that has been suggested.  Again, when you're talking 
about the one character in the potterverse that has popularity econd 
only to Harry's, you're gonna have a time.  

Nick




From pennylin at swbell.net  Tue Jul 23 02:47:09 2002
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny Linsenmayer)
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:47:09 -0500
Subject: Subject Heading: Please Change
Message-ID: <01a701c231f3$3daeb930$4f5ffea9@cq5hs01>

Hi everyone --

Could I please suggest that everyone make a note to change the subject
heading on this Lupin thread?  Lupus is an auto-immune system disease.
Lupin is the name of our beloved HP character.

Please also remember to snip appropriately and attribute quotes properly.

Thanks,

Penny





From amidalaskywalker at pinoymail.com  Mon Jul 22 11:58:55 2002
From: amidalaskywalker at pinoymail.com (faura2002)
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:58:55 -0000
Subject: Who do you see as Lupin?
In-Reply-To: <00a201c2305a$5225e400$85a2cdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <ahgs1v+qe5p@eGroups.com>

How about Matthew McCounaughey? Loved him in his role in Amistad. 
Goofy yet serious. 

by the way, am new here. cheers!


faura





From scully931 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 23 17:37:29 2002
From: scully931 at yahoo.com (Scully931)
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:37:29 -0000
Subject: What to take out - GoF
In-Reply-To: <4770296499.20020722104058@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <ahk48p+oqaj@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Dave Hardenbrook <DaveH47 at m...> wrote:
> 
> Sunday, July 21, 2002, 8:37:02 PM, "feliciarickmann" wrote:
> 
> HMyc> NO!!  I think the pensieve is a masterstoke, almost as ood 
as the end
> HMyc> of PoA but NOT QUITE.  I think it's a wonderful plot device 
for 
> HMyc> flashback.  Sorry the pensieve stays in some form or 
other....

While I agree that the pensieve is a REALLY inventive flashback 
method (and I wouldn't mind owning one myself) I found this to be a 
section I skimmed on subsequent read throughs. Interesting... but a 
bit long. 

> 
> I think the Pensieve could easily be condensed into *one* scene, 
with
> Karkaroff, Bagman, Crouch Jr., and Mrs. Lestrange all there 
together,
> with Barty Sr. interrogating them one after another.

Yes, one scene. Although, this may be one of those rare items that 
is actually more interesting to watch then to read. (These things 
are few and far between, but perhaps we'd see Richard Harris looking 
like something other than an old weezer on his deathbed. - Sorry, RH 
fans, couldn't resist;-)

> 
> HMyc> Much extraneous matter about Hagrid & Madam Maxim could be 
condensed 
> HMyc> maybe?
> 
> That whole subplot could probably go.

I think we're going to find that the Hagrid/Maxim subplot will 
figure greatly in subsequent books. The way Dumbledore speaks at the 
end, the giant may become an alliance. So, I would imagine at least 
some of this would have to stay. It kind of shows the beginning of 
the acceptance of the giants. We'll definately know more when... 
WHEN!!!! we get the fifth book. (PLEEEEZE let it be tomorrow. I keep 
thinking they're all playing a joke on us and we'll wake up one day 
and the fifth book will be everywhere!) 

~Deborah


> 
> HMyc> pleased to see CoS as a PC game is due 8th November * g *
> 
> That *is* good news... :)
> 
> -- 
> Dave




From Aachoo9 at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 24 20:54:13 2002
From: Aachoo9 at hotmail.com (wimdiddlius_flumpugus)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 20:54:13 -0000
Subject: Sirius Black casting
Message-ID: <ahn45l+fo3l@eGroups.com>

Hi, I've been a member of this group for a while now but I came out 
of my cave today to comment on casting. The guy who plays Luka Kovach 
(not sure if that's spelled right) on ER is exactly who I imagined 
Sirius as. Sorry, but I don't know the actor's name, I'll check the 
next time I watch it. It's really too bad he's not British.. he would 
be great IMO.

-Olivia




From fyredriftwood at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 24 22:26:52 2002
From: fyredriftwood at yahoo.com (fyredriftwood)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:26:52 -0000
Subject: Sirius Black/Lupin casting
In-Reply-To: <ahn45l+fo3l@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ahn9jc+ospo@eGroups.com>

I would honestly like to see Ewan McGregor play either of the parts. 
Rumors have been spreading that he's up for either one.

However, since the movie is coming out in 2004--it's possible that it 
won't happen. Star wars ep 3 is going to be filming around then and 
it's just too darn sad to see it go that way.

Cheers
--Fyre Drift Wood





From jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu  Wed Jul 24 23:06:23 2002
From: jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu (Jennifer Prescott)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:06:23 -0700
Subject: Sirius Black/Lupin casting
References: <ahn9jc+ospo@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3D3F32EF.85CBA822@ka.reg.uci.edu>

Im de-lurking to discuss the always popular topic of the Casting of
Lupin/Black.

I'm still thinking about Colin Firth as Lupin.  
I really think he could do mysterious and sexy, in that werewolf sorta
way. 

As for Sirius, in the past I suggested a british actor from the show
"Babylon 5," who i think fits a good description of Sirius Black:  Jason
Carter.  I've never actually seen the show Babylon 5 (not a big fan of
Star Trek or the others) but a friend of mine tuned me into him as a
possible Sirius.  Check him out at his site -->
http://www.jasoncarterfanclub.com/photos.html

What do you guys think of him?

I just cant see Ewan McGregor as Sirius anymore.  If he was cast, it
would have to be as Lupin, IMO.

Cheers!
Back to the shadows --
Jenny



> 
> I would honestly like to see Ewan McGregor play either of the parts.
> Rumors have been spreading that he's up for either one.
> 
> However, since the movie is coming out in 2004--it's possible that it
> won't happen. Star wars ep 3 is going to be filming around then and
> it's just too darn sad to see it go that way.
> 
> Cheers
> --Fyre Drift Wood



From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Wed Jul 24 23:24:25 2002
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:24:25 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Sirius Black/Lupin casting
References: <ahn9jc+ospo@eGroups.com> <3D3F32EF.85CBA822@ka.reg.uci.edu>
Message-ID: <3D3F3729.4080500@kingwoodcable.com>



Jennifer Prescott wrote:
> Im de-lurking to discuss the always popular topic of the Casting of
> Lupin/Black.
> 
> I'm still thinking about Colin Firth as Lupin.  
> I really think he could do mysterious and sexy, in that werewolf sorta
> way. 

Was he in Brigit Jone's diary? I don't think I remember him very well.

> 
> As for Sirius, in the past I suggested a british actor from the show
> "Babylon 5," who i think fits a good description of Sirius Black:  Jason
> Carter.  I've never actually seen the show Babylon 5 (not a big fan of
> Star Trek or the others) but a friend of mine tuned me into him as a
> possible Sirius.  Check him out at his site -->
> http://www.jasoncarterfanclub.com/photos.html

Oi! Jason Carter - thump thump thump...

I think he's actaully make a great Sirius. He was wondreful on Bablyon 5, and 
was sorely missed when he left the show.

> 
> What do you guys think of him?
> 
> I just cant see Ewan McGregor as Sirius anymore.  If he was cast, it
> would have to be as Lupin, IMO.

I never saw Ewan McGregor as Sirius - I always thought his stature was a little 
bit too broa. I saw Sirius sort of thin boned, but not malnourished like Lupin.

Katze





From TACtalk at adelanta.co.uk  Thu Jul 25 02:20:38 2002
From: TACtalk at adelanta.co.uk (TACtalk at adelanta.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 03:20:38 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: What to take out - GoF
Message-ID: <v01540b00b963946456f8@[212.56.33.38]>

Hi everyone,

Someone said (sorry, don't know who)

>> HMyc> Much extraneous matter about Hagrid & Madam Maxim could be
>condensed
>> HMyc> maybe?
>>
And someone else responded

>> That whole subplot could probably go.
>
Deborah said;

>I think we're going to find that the Hagrid/Maxim subplot will
>figure greatly in subsequent books. The way Dumbledore speaks at the
>end, the giant may become an alliance. So, I would imagine at least
>some of this would have to stay.

Yes. The point is that, in the end, only JKR can say what goes and what
absolutely must stay, since she's the one who knows what's going to be
important later on. For example, anyone who saw the movie without having
read the books may have wondered about the mini-scene with Scabbers. If we
hadn't read PoA, we would have thought that it was unnecessary.

Regards,
Nicholas






From wedgeaholic at icqmail.com  Thu Jul 25 05:35:41 2002
From: wedgeaholic at icqmail.com (cathubodva_raven)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 05:35:41 -0000
Subject: Sirius Black/Lupin casting
Message-ID: <aho2nd+i7sn@eGroups.com>

Fyre Drift Wood wrote:
> I would honestly like to see Ewan McGregor play either of the parts.
> Rumors have been spreading that he's up for either one.
> 
> However, since the movie is coming out in 2004--it's possible that 
> it won't happen. Star wars ep 3 is going to be filming around then 
> and it's just too darn sad to see it go that way.

If Ewan McGregor can't do Lupin, I'd like to see the part go to 
Samuel West.  (for pics, go to 
http://members.aol.com/c3po15/SamuelWestPage/album/pics.html) Sam's 
been in lots of quality Brittish cinema (notably Hornblower and the 
BBC's Narnia series).  I also think that the age difference between 
West & Rickman would be less noticable.

I think that Colin Firth would make a better Sirius Black than Lupin, 
but I guess I'm alone on that.

And it's a bit premature, but I'd like to see Denis Lawson (Wedge 
Antilles in Star Wars - and Ewan's uncle) as Mad-Eye Moody!  Alan 
Rickman and Denis Lawson in the same movie?  I'm getting quivery just 
thinking about it!

Cathubodva.





From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Thu Jul 25 17:30:45 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:30:45 +0100
Subject: Sirius Black/Lupin casting
References: <ahn9jc+ospo@eGroups.com> <3D3F32EF.85CBA822@ka.reg.uci.edu> <3D3F3729.4080500@kingwoodcable.com>
Message-ID: <002101c23401$02253640$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

> 
> I'm still thinking about Colin Firth as Lupin.  
> I really think he could do mysterious and sexy, in that werewolf sorta
> way. 

Was he in Brigit Jone's diary? I don't think I remember him very well.

Yes he was in BJD.  It's funny I was thinking of him as a possible the other day (after seeing Pride & Preudice again on TV) but I had him down as Sirius as, to start with, Sirius is hidden beneath hair, girme and dirt, thus giving the actor involved time to convince of of his bona fides before he get to see him spruced up and the real character has to stand up and be counted.

I was a bit against Ewan McGregor as a Sirius or Lupin to start with but he has a wide range of acting experience and could do the thoughtful and gentle bit rather well, he can also do a very good THIN!!!!!.  However, if he IS playing at saving the universe it may be our loss.

I hope they give it to an actor who is not particularly famous, but maye well established.  However, as I only do theatre, not much TV or cinema, except Harry Potter and only one or two more a year at most, my suggestions are very limited.  I just wish I knew what Babylon 5 was ....

Felicia
anxious not to start another * who is Silent Bob * debate so off to research Babylon Five on Google......


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From strijkg at xs4all.nl  Thu Jul 25 18:10:31 2002
From: strijkg at xs4all.nl (Riet Strijker)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:10:31 +0200 (West-Europa (zomertijd))
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Sirius Black/Lupin casting
References: <002101c23401$02253640$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <3D403F17.000003.61409@xbwesrtn>

Just de-lurking for a moment.
What about Ralph Fiennes as Sirius? I think he would be perfect.
OK,
crawling back to lurkdom again.
Riet

-------Original Message-------

From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Date: donderdag 25 juli 2002 19:32:29
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Sirius Black/Lupin casting

> 
> I'm still thinking about Colin Firth as Lupin.  
> I really think he could do mysterious and sexy, in that werewolf sorta
> way. 

Was he in Brigit Jone's diary? I don't think I remember him very well.

Yes he was in BJD.  It's funny I was thinking of him as a possible the other
day (after seeing Pride & Preudice again on TV) but I had him down as Sirius
as, to start with, Sirius is hidden beneath hair, girme and dirt, thus
giving the actor involved time to convince of of his bona fides before he
get to see him spruced up and the real character has to stand up and be
counted.

I was a bit against Ewan McGregor as a Sirius or Lupin to start with but he
has a wide range of acting experience and could do the thoughtful and gentle
bit rather well, he can also do a very good THIN!!!!!.  However, if he IS
playing at saving the universe it may be our loss.

I hope they give it to an actor who is not particularly famous, but maye
well established.  However, as I only do theatre, not much TV or cinema,
except Harry Potter and only one or two more a year at most, my suggestions
are very limited.  I just wish I knew what Babylon 5 was ....

Felicia
anxious not to start another * who is Silent Bob * debate so off to research
Babylon Five on Google......


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From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Thu Jul 25 18:39:48 2002
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:39:48 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Sirius Black/Lupin casting
References: <002101c23401$02253640$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq> <3D403F17.000003.61409@xbwesrtn>
Message-ID: <3D4045F4.3070502@kingwoodcable.com>

Riet Strijker wrote:
> I hope they give it to an actor who is not particularly famous, but maye
> well established.  However, as I only do theatre, not much TV or cinema,
> except Harry Potter and only one or two more a year at most, my suggestions
> are very limited.  I just wish I knew what Babylon 5 was ....

I'm not familiar with a lot of the British actors/actresses, though Ralph 
Fiennes would do a fabulous job. When I think of Sirius and Lupin in PoA, I see 
both of them as very thin and malnourished - the only difference is hair color 
(eye color as well?), so in my mind a person I think would do well with Sirius 
for some reason also would do well as Lupin (Their personalities even seem 
similar, ecept for Sirius' firey temper).

I saw Reign of Fire last week, and had my first introduction to Christian Bale, 
and he would make a fabulous Lupin (IMO), I'm not sure how he'd do as Sirius. 
His character in RoF was more like I imagine Lupin, so that's why I say Lupin.

The production team has done well so far getting good people for the parts, so 
we should have little or no doubt that they'll find someone great for both parts.

> Felicia
> anxious not to start another * who is Silent Bob * debate so off to research
> Babylon Five on Google......

If you're actually doing some research, try the Lurker's Guide to Bablyon 5 at 
http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/lurker.html, and read the Bablyon 5 Universe for 
the introduction.

Take care!
Katze (who just looked at the Lurker's Guide and found out the first season will 
be out on DVD in November!)





From kechelsen at aol.com  Thu Jul 25 20:40:09 2002
From: kechelsen at aol.com (kechelsen at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:40:09 EDT
Subject: Re Sirius Black/Lupin Casting
Message-ID: <f3.1e80eacb.2a71bc29@aol.com>

I have to say I really can't see Colin Firth as Sirius, but he'd probably 
surprise me if he got the role.  When I read the third and fourth books, the 
face that came to my mind when I read about Sirius was that of Scott Cohen 
(Wolf in 10th Kingdom, Denby in NYPD Blue, currently James Liberti in Street 
Time).  For photos, please check this out: <A HREF="http://detectivespack.50megs.com/index.htm">Robin's Scott Cohen Gallery</A>

This guy has played a wide variety of characters, from a half man/half wolf 
to a sleezy narcotics detective and now a parole officer with a weakness for 
gambling.  He thrives on playing characters with depth, which is why I think 
he'd do justice tothe role of Sirius.  However, he's American, so it's 
unlikely he'd get the part.

But what about Hugh Jackman as Sirius?  Someone else mentioned that earlier, 
and I think that might work.  Yes, he's Aussie, but he can do a very credible 
British accent  (check out Kate and Leopold).

As for Ralph Feinnes... not sure he'd be right for Sirius either.  But what 
about his brother Joseph?

Kathy 


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From jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu  Thu Jul 25 21:02:15 2002
From: jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu (Jennifer Prescott)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:02:15 -0700
Subject: Sirius Black/Lupin Casting
References: <f3.1e80eacb.2a71bc29@aol.com>
Message-ID: <3D406757.F786C270@ka.reg.uci.edu>

Im delurking again. I love this topic.

kechelsen at aol.com wrote:
> I have to say I really can't see Colin Firth as Sirius, but he'd probably
> surprise me if he got the role.  

I love Colin Firth, but I couldn't see him as Sirius, either. I really
see him in the role of Lupin.  He's got that softness to him that I
would love to see between himself and Harry when he talks to him about
the boggart and whatnot.  


> But what about Hugh Jackman as Sirius?  Someone else mentioned that earlier,
> and I think that might work.  Yes, he's Aussie, but he can do a very credible
> British accent  (check out Kate and Leopold).


I dont see Jackman as Sirius at all.  He's too.... Preppy?  I dunno, but
I just dont see it.  If he's chosen and I'm proven wrong, then so be it,
but at this moment, ick.  He does do a good british accent -- and the
american accent he does it pretty good, too! 

 
> As for Ralph Feinnes... not sure he'd be right for Sirius either.  But what
> about his brother Joseph?


I think that Ralph would be a great pick. He can do those dark looks and
scare the crap out people so easily. <G>  I'd love to see him play the
Pseudo-bad guy.  He could grow his hair all long and do the role serious
justice (pardon the pun).  As for Joseph, I dunno.  What else has he
done aside from Shakespeare in Love?  

As for Christian Bale -- goodness, he's lovely.  (any Baleheads
here???)   I'd love to see him in the movie -- hey, dye his hair red and
make him Charlie Weasley. <G>  He can take care of those dragons. 
hehe    Just get him in the movie, in any role. :)


Cheers,
Jenny



From heidi at blaydz.com  Thu Jul 25 21:17:38 2002
From: heidi at blaydz.com (heidi at blaydz.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:17:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re Lupin Casting
Message-ID: <20020725141739.17128.h009.c001.wm@mail.blaydz.com.criticalpath.net>

After watching "A Little Princess" that Cuaron directed
(with thanks to this list for noting the film), I
noticed that the fellow who plays the father and the
blue guy (there's a guy painted blue in the little
girl's fantasies), Liam Cunningham, would make a very
good Lupin. Is he British or does he just have the
right accent?


Heidi



From rvotaw at i-55.com  Thu Jul 25 21:32:50 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:32:50 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re Lupin Casting
References: <20020725141739.17128.h009.c001.wm@mail.blaydz.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <00a801c23422$d4aaf020$08a3cdd1@istu757>

Heidi writes:

> After watching "A Little Princess" that Cuaron directed
> (with thanks to this list for noting the film), I
> noticed that the fellow who plays the father and the
> blue guy (there's a guy painted blue in the little
> girl's fantasies), Liam Cunningham, would make a very
> good Lupin. Is he British or does he just have the
> right accent?

He's Irish actually.  That would probably work.

Whoever mentioned Colin Firth--I think I'd die of happiness if he were
Lupin.  :)  He'd be great for it, but how do we convince the right people?!
:)

Richelle




From divaclv at aol.com  Thu Jul 25 22:31:00 2002
From: divaclv at aol.com (c_voth312)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 22:31:00 -0000
Subject: Sirius Black/Lupin casting
In-Reply-To: <aho2nd+i7sn@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ahpu74+6o0c@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "cathubodva_raven" <wedgeaholic at i...> wrote:

> I think that Colin Firth would make a better Sirius Black than 
Lupin, 
> but I guess I'm alone on that.
> 

Not by any means--I think he'd be excellent, especially with those 
dark, expressive eyes of his. Le sigh...
I'm not entirely enthusiastic about the idea of Ewan McGregor for 
Lupin--he seems too young to me (probably a residual perception 
from "Moulin Rouge").  But he could very well surprise me.

~Christi, who just saw "Valmont" on Monday and thinks CF looks very 
hot indeed with long hair...





From Mmsx1 at aol.com  Fri Jul 26 04:49:59 2002
From: Mmsx1 at aol.com (Mmsx1 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 00:49:59 EDT
Subject: Sirius Black/Lupin Casting
Message-ID: <ea.2b293a6d.2a722ef7@aol.com>

I don't know if I can see Christian Bale as Lupin. Lol, I keep thinking of 
Newsies.Think they could put a nice ballad about some distant wizarding town 
in there? Perhaps a big rebellion againist authority? *G* Jenny, I like your 
idea as Charlie. Lol. That would be cool.

Wasn't Ralph Finnes in The End of the Affair? If so, then I can see him as 
Sirius. I can see his brother, Joseph, doing it as well. He would be so yummy 
as a skinny man with matted down hair. ^_~

-Airemay


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From fyredriftwood at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 26 05:55:05 2002
From: fyredriftwood at yahoo.com (fyredriftwood)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 05:55:05 -0000
Subject: Tom Marvolo RIddle
In-Reply-To: <ea.2b293a6d.2a722ef7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <ahqo7p+bsu2@eGroups.com>

(oops, i accidentally hit enter early--sorry ^_~)

I have been watching the CoS trailer and for some reason i am 
intrigued with the lad playing Tom Riddle.

Is it just me or does he have a slight lisp? Or, is he supposed to 
talk like that?

Cheers
--Fyre Drift Wood




From aphrael at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 26 16:04:38 2002
From: aphrael at hotmail.com (Carla Donnell)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:04:38 -0400
Subject: Casting
Message-ID: <F64JrvpTYNvpmYj2W6m000213ae@hotmail.com>

Delurks to say - Billy Connelly + Mad-Eye Moody = perfect :)

Cheers!
Carla

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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Fri Jul 26 22:32:05 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 23:32:05 +0100
Subject: Sirius Black/Lupin Casting
References: <ea.2b293a6d.2a722ef7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001f01c234f4$44f0ede0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>


Wasn't Ralph Finnes in The End of the Affair? If so, then I can see him as 
Sirius. I can see his brother, Joseph, doing it as well. He would be so yummy 
as a skinny man with matted down hair. ^_~

-Airemay

I had Joseph down as a Remus Lupin after seeng his recent movie on video, he does a nice line in skinny men and can act.  It's whether he can do subtle which is what Remus is, whether or not you like him (I do).

I saw a guy called Ben Cumberbatch on stage recently * seriously weird name * but he would have made a fabulously good Lupin, nice cheekbones and a voice to die for.  However, I suspect he is not well enough established ** sniff**

Felicia


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From plumeski at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 27 19:57:27 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:57:27 -0000
Subject: PoA Casting
Message-ID: <ahutv7+ln1f@eGroups.com>

A problem I have with most of the actors who've been suggested here 
recently (the Fienneses, Hugh Jackman, Colin Firth, Christian Bale, 
Ewan McGregor, etc, etc, etc, ad nauseam) is that they are all too 
young. It's easy for us HP book fans to consider the characters' ages 
as per the books, but we have to remember that that both Remus and 
Sirius have to be believable contemporaries of Snape's. 

As that role has been cast for the foreseeable future, perhaps a bit 
less wishful thinking is in order...

While out shopping today, I saw a photospread in one of the British 
glossy magazines (Hello, OK, one of those...) of Jeremy Irons with 
his latest squeeze. Although I've thought of him as a fairly good 
candidate for Sirius for some time, I got the impression from his 
appearance in those pictures that he wanted this shoot to be his 
candidature for the role. He was absolutely perfect! :-)

Broodingly staring into the camera, looking quite haggard yet with a 
trimphant gleam in his eyes (hey, where have I heard that phrase 
before?), all he needed was a cartoon balloon superimposed on the 
photos with the words "I've been unjustly imprisoned for the last 
dozen years, and I have an alternate existence as a big black 
dog"). :-)

The notion of having the two memorable baddies from the Die Hard 
movies in the same film has a certain appeal to it, I must admit...

There were also a few pictures in that magazine of Liam Neeson. I'd 
never considered him before as he's just a *little* younger than 
Rickman or Irons, but he looked like a decent shoe-in for Lupin...







From helevision at yahoo.com.au  Sat Jul 27 17:12:38 2002
From: helevision at yahoo.com.au (=?iso-8859-1?q?Helen=20M?=)
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 03:12:38 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Sirius Black/Lupin casting
In-Reply-To: <1027735646.147.83198.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20020727171238.27170.qmail@web21305.mail.yahoo.com>

 I would loooooove to see Ewan as Lupin. Even before he was suggested by anyone, whenever I read POA I have always thought of Lupin as looking something like him. 
The only problem for me would be trying to stop myself from drooling throughout the whole movie. Episode 2 was hard enough to contend with! lol. ;)
  
--helevision








From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Sat Jul 27 21:32:23 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:32:23 +0100
Subject: Sirius Black/Lupin casting
References: <aho2nd+i7sn@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <002301c235b5$18788720$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

If Ewan McGregor can't do Lupin, I'd like to see the part go to 
Samuel West.  (for pics, go to 
http://members.aol.com/c3po15/SamuelWestPage/album/pics.html) Sam's 
been in lots of quality Brittish cinema (notably Hornblower and the 
BBC's Narnia series).  I also think that the age difference between 
West & Rickman would be less noticable.

Hmmmm.  Someone I had not thought of but an excellent and thoughtful suggestion.  West is versatile, has an outstanding stage record that covers a wide range of roles, and has an acting family pedigree to be proud of.   He would melt into the part as effectively as someone Like Branagh and would be respected by his British fellow thespians already established in the film.

Felicia
surprised to find that Britain has finally got Summer.....


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From rvotaw at i-55.com  Sat Jul 27 23:33:17 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:33:17 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA Casting
References: <ahutv7+ln1f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00aa01c235c5$fcf2df80$1d9fcdd1@istu757>

GulPlum wrote:

> A problem I have with most of the actors who've been suggested here
> recently (the Fienneses, Hugh Jackman, Colin Firth, Christian Bale,
> Ewan McGregor, etc, etc, etc, ad nauseam) is that they are all too
> young. It's easy for us HP book fans to consider the characters' ages
> as per the books, but we have to remember that that both Remus and
> Sirius have to be believable contemporaries of Snape's.

Actually they're not all too old.  Snape is supposed to be, according to
JKR, 35 or 36.  Alan Rickman is actually way too old for Snape.  He's made
up to be a great deal younger than he really looks.

Colin Firth is 41, almost 42.  Christian Bale is too young, really, though
if Rickman can be made up to look younger I'm sure he could be made up to
look older.  Ewan McGregor too, though I really doubt he'll be in it as
filming for Star Wars Episode 3 is set to begin in 2003 as well.

Richelle




From fallenangel13_5 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 28 01:11:51 2002
From: fallenangel13_5 at yahoo.com (Wendy)
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:11:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Sirius Black/Lupin casting
In-Reply-To: <20020727171238.27170.qmail@web21305.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020728011151.22517.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com>


--- Helen M <helevision at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>  I would loooooove to see Ewan as Lupin. Even before
> he was suggested by anyone, whenever I read POA I
> have always thought of Lupin as looking something
> like him. 


I watched Moulin Rouge for the first time today.  I am
now willing to fall on my knees and beg if it will get
Ewan cast as Lupin. LOL  The minute I read Snape's
description, my very first thought was "Alan
Rickman"... had a bit more trouble with Lupin, but am
now convinced Ewan would be perfect (would take Sean
Bean...don't ask. LOL) 


=====
Wendy

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Of wind I sang, a wind there came, and in the branches blew."
--Galadriel, "The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring"

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From editor at texas.net  Sun Jul 28 01:40:57 2002
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:40:57 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA Casting
References: <ahutv7+ln1f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <004901c235d7$d3011720$1d7c63d1@texas.net>

I think they should squeeze Bill Nighy in there somewhere....he would have
been a delicious Lucius, but he'd be a good Lupin too....

--Amanda

----- Original Message -----
From: "GulPlum" <plumeski at yahoo.com>
To: <HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 2:57 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA Casting


> A problem I have with most of the actors who've been suggested here
> recently (the Fienneses, Hugh Jackman, Colin Firth, Christian Bale,
> Ewan McGregor, etc, etc, etc, ad nauseam) is that they are all too
> young. It's easy for us HP book fans to consider the characters' ages
> as per the books, but we have to remember that that both Remus and
> Sirius have to be believable contemporaries of Snape's.
>
> As that role has been cast for the foreseeable future, perhaps a bit
> less wishful thinking is in order...
>
> While out shopping today, I saw a photospread in one of the British
> glossy magazines (Hello, OK, one of those...) of Jeremy Irons with
> his latest squeeze. Although I've thought of him as a fairly good
> candidate for Sirius for some time, I got the impression from his
> appearance in those pictures that he wanted this shoot to be his
> candidature for the role. He was absolutely perfect! :-)
>
> Broodingly staring into the camera, looking quite haggard yet with a
> trimphant gleam in his eyes (hey, where have I heard that phrase
> before?), all he needed was a cartoon balloon superimposed on the
> photos with the words "I've been unjustly imprisoned for the last
> dozen years, and I have an alternate existence as a big black
> dog"). :-)
>
> The notion of having the two memorable baddies from the Die Hard
> movies in the same film has a certain appeal to it, I must admit...
>
> There were also a few pictures in that magazine of Liam Neeson. I'd
> never considered him before as he's just a *little* younger than
> Rickman or Irons, but he looked like a decent shoe-in for Lupin...
>
>
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From divaclv at aol.com  Sun Jul 28 02:59:04 2002
From: divaclv at aol.com (c_voth312)
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 02:59:04 -0000
Subject: PoA Casting
In-Reply-To: <00aa01c235c5$fcf2df80$1d9fcdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <ahvmlo+hgh1@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> wrote:
> GulPlum wrote:
> 
> > A problem I have with most of the actors who've been suggested 
here
> > recently (the Fienneses, Hugh Jackman, Colin Firth, Christian 
Bale,
> > Ewan McGregor, etc, etc, etc, ad nauseam) is that they are all too
> > young. It's easy for us HP book fans to consider the characters' 
ages
> > as per the books, but we have to remember that that both Remus and
> > Sirius have to be believable contemporaries of Snape's.
> 
> Actually they're not all too old.  Snape is supposed to be, 
according to
> JKR, 35 or 36.  Alan Rickman is actually way too old for Snape.  
He's made
> up to be a great deal younger than he really looks.
> 
Except Snape's bitterly nursing a grudge from his youth, Sirius has 
undergone several years of solitary confinement and intense 
psychological torture, and Lupin makes a very painful physical 
transformation once a month (and probably spends a good portion of 
the remaining time stressing over what he might do in that 
condition).  We're not talking conditions that encourage youthful 
looks here--but on the whole, I think the three of them should look 
roughly around the same age.
So with that criteria, I doubt Bale would work, McGregor is chancy 
(but might be able to squeeze in), but the Finnes bros (particularly 
Ralph), Firth, and probably Jackman 
would still manage. 

~Christi




From HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com  Mon Jul 29 16:35:59 2002
From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 29 Jul 2002 16:35:59 -0000
Subject: New poll for HPFGU-Movie 
Message-ID: <1027960559.285.40720.w3@yahoogroups.com>


Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the 
HPFGU-Movie group:

Who do you think should play Remus Lupin in Prisoner of Azkaban? (Choices based on discussion on this list, not actual casting information) 

  o Ewan McGregor (Star Wars Ep. 1-3, Moulin Rouge, Trainspotting) 
  o Hugh Jackman (X-men, Swordfish, Kate & Leopold) 
  o David Bowie (Labyrinth, Zoolander) 
  o Christian Bale (Reign of Fire, Shaft, Captain Corelli's Mandolin, American Psycho) 
  o Matthew McConaughey (Reign of Fire, EdTV, Amistad, The Rebel) 
  o Colin Firth (Bridget Jones's Diary, Pride & Prejudice) 
  o Samuel West (Longitude, Iris, Notting Hill) 
  o Liam Cunningham (A Little Princess) 
  o Joseph Fiennes (Shakespere in Love, Enemy at the Gates) 
  o Ben Cumberbatch (Stage actor) 
  o Liam Neeson (K-19, Star Wars Ep. 1, Schindler's List) 
  o Bill Nighy (Blow Dry, Longitude, Still Crazy, Mack the Knife) 
  o Sean Bean (Lord of the Rings, Don't Say a Word, Goldeneye) 
  o None of the above 


To vote, please visit the following web page:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-Movie/surveys?id=10833868  

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are 
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups 
web site listed above.

Thanks!

 







From HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com  Mon Jul 29 16:39:00 2002
From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 29 Jul 2002 16:39:00 -0000
Subject: New poll for HPFGU-Movie 
Message-ID: <1027960740.240.61490.w24@yahoogroups.com>


Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the 
HPFGU-Movie group:

Who do you think should play Sirius Black in Prisoner of Azkaban? (Choices based on discussion on this list, not actual casting information) 

  o Hugh Jackman (X-men, Swordfish, Kate & Leopold) 
  o Christian Bale (Reign of Fire, Shaft, Captain Corelli's Mandolin, American Psycho) 
  o Goran Visnjic (ER, Practical Magic, Rounders) 
  o Jason Carter (Babylon 5) 
  o Colin Farrell (Minority Report, Hart's War, Tigerland) 
  o Colin Firth  (Bridget Jones's Diary, Pride & Prejudice) 
  o Ralph Fiennes (The End of the Affair, The Avengers, Schindler's List, Quiz Show) 
  o Scott Cohen (10th Kingdom, NYPD Blue, Street Time) 
  o Joseph Fiennes (Shakespere in Love, Enemy at the Gates) 
  o Jeremy Irons (Longitude, Man in the Iron Mask, Die Hard 3) 
  o Ewan McGregor (Star Wars Ep. 1-3, Moulin Rouge, Trainspotting) 
  o None of the above 


To vote, please visit the following web page:

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Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are 
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups 
web site listed above.

Thanks!

 







From whatev at over-the-rainbow.com  Mon Jul 29 16:48:33 2002
From: whatev at over-the-rainbow.com (frabjabulous)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:48:33 -0000
Subject: Black/Lupin Casting
Message-ID: <ai3rl1+i7k7@eGroups.com>

Personally, I'd love to see Colin Farrell as Sirius Black. He's just exactly who I picture when reading the books. Also, he's Irish, which is great! Here's some photos of him so y'all can draw your own conclusions:

http://www.colin-farrell.com/phone_booth.htm

Any thoughts?

As for Lupin, Ewan McGregor seems like a great choice, and I hope he ends up playing the role, although Star Wars might interfere. Still, with PoA coming out in 2004 and Star Wars Episode III coming out in 2005, he should have room to shoot both... especially if a parts of Episode III is shot in Europe, like Episode II was.

Actually, I have a feeling the casting will really depend on the success of the CoS movie. If it does very well in theatres, more "big name" actors would want/accept the roles. However, if CoS flops, we may see lesser known (but not necessarily less talented) actors as Lupin and Black.

-Frabjabulous





From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Mon Jul 29 17:36:38 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:36:38 +0100
Subject: Black/Lupin Casting - Colin Farrell
References: <ai3rl1+i7k7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <003d01c23726$7e818ea0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Personally, I'd love to see Colin Farrell as Sirius Black. He's just exactly who I picture when reading the books. Also, he's Irish, which is great! Here's some photos of him so y'all can draw your own conclusions:

http://www.colin-farrell.com/phone_booth.htm

Any thoughts?


Hmm, thanks for the link.  This guy looks is if he might be up for the job.  Previous posts have said, and I agree, that the new characters will look slightly worn and older simply due to force of circumstance.  Colin Farrell does look as though he would * roughen * up rather well.

Worries that they might look too young are largely irrelevant as make up can be effective (it works on Severus Snape after all).

Felicia




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From ealarsen at uchicago.edu  Mon Jul 29 17:38:08 2002
From: ealarsen at uchicago.edu (Beth Larsen)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 12:38:08 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Black/Lupin Casting
References: <ai3rl1+i7k7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <002301c23726$b55078b0$7fe38780@Beth>

First time poster, long-time lurker

A ways back there'd been some talk in the group about Anthony Stewart Head
(Giles in Buffy the Vampire Slayer) as Lupin.  He would be perfect - at
least given the age of Rickman as Snape.  I see that ASH was left out of
this new poll though, because I guess no one's been throwing out his name
very recently.  He was very good as a mentor figure on Buffy, and can be
both funny or serious.  I can't really see him as Sirius though - he could
be rumpled, shabby, even a little dangerous, etc., but not actually
convincingly serial-killer-like to frighten muggles.  At least not that I
can imagine.







From Mmsx1 at aol.com  Mon Jul 29 18:20:28 2002
From: Mmsx1 at aol.com (Mmsx1 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:20:28 EDT
Subject: Black/Lupin Casting - Colin Farrell
Message-ID: <169.114a17a0.2a76e16c@aol.com>

Wow. I can totally picture him as Sirius. Although he looks young, a little 
age make-up can TOTALLY change that. Was he good in Bridget Jones's Diary and 
Pride & Prejudice? I haven't seen either one of them.

-airemay


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From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Mon Jul 29 19:45:41 2002
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:45:41 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Black/Lupin Casting
References: <ai3rl1+i7k7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3D459B65.1090902@kingwoodcable.com>


frabjabulous wrote:

> As for Lupin, Ewan McGregor seems like a great choice, and I hope he ends up playing the role, although Star Wars might interfere. Still, with PoA coming out in 2004 and Star Wars Episode III coming out in 2005, he should have room to shoot both... especially if a parts of Episode III is shot in Europe, like Episode II was.

I actually think they are shooting down in Australia for Episode III 
(Christensen and McGregor and rumored to go down to Australia before shooting to 
freshen up on their lightsaber skills for the big duel). They'll being shooting 
sometime around June 2003 (I'm not 100% sure about this). I'm not sure how this 
would fit in with PoA.

> Actually, I have a feeling the casting will really depend on the success of the CoS movie. If it does very well in theatres, more "big name" actors would want/accept the roles. However, if CoS flops, we may see lesser known (but not necessarily less talented) actors as Lupin and Black.

I have high hopes for this next movie. While I thought the book wasn't the best, 
the visuals and story lends itself well to the screen. I think it will do just 
fine. It's going to be POA (IMO) that's going to be the make or break deal, 
mainly because of the director.

On the other hand, if they go forward with PoA, they have to finish the series - 
PoA does end all nice and neat, with loose end tied up, like SS/PS and COS.

JMO,
Katze





From kechelsen at aol.com  Mon Jul 29 20:30:52 2002
From: kechelsen at aol.com (kathye_c)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:30:52 -0000
Subject: Black/Lupin Casting - Colin Farrell
In-Reply-To: <169.114a17a0.2a76e16c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <ai48ls+ksot@eGroups.com>

<<--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Mmsx1 at a... wrote:
Was he good in Bridget Jones's Diary and  Pride & Prejudice? I 
haven't seen either one of them.>>


You're confusing Colin Ferrill with Colin Firth.  The latter actor 
was in Bridget Jones' Diary and Pride and Prejudice

Kathy







From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Mon Jul 29 21:36:10 2002
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:36:10 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Black/Lupin Casting
References: <ai3rl1+i7k7@eGroups.com> <3D459B65.1090902@kingwoodcable.com>
Message-ID: <3D45B54A.4060409@kingwoodcable.com>

Correction....

Katze wrote:
> On the other hand, if they go forward with PoA, they have to finish the series - 
> PoA does end all nice and neat, with loose end tied up, like SS/PS and COS.

PoA *doesn't* end all nice and neat, with loose ends tied up, like SS/PS and 
CoS. I'll add that it has a much more solid ending than GoF though.

Katze





From Mmsx1 at aol.com  Mon Jul 29 22:23:48 2002
From: Mmsx1 at aol.com (Mmsx1 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:23:48 EDT
Subject: Black/Lupin Casting - Colin Farrell
Message-ID: <81.1f182749.2a771a74@aol.com>

<You're confusing Colin Ferrill with Colin Firth.  The latter actor 
was in Bridget Jones' Diary and Pride and Prejudice>

*dies* Please forgive my stupidity. What has Colin Farrell done?

-airemay



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From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Mon Jul 29 22:28:30 2002
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:28:30 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Black/Lupin Casting - Colin Farrell
References: <81.1f182749.2a771a74@aol.com>
Message-ID: <3D45C18E.5070606@kingwoodcable.com>


Mmsx1 at aol.com wrote:

> *dies* Please forgive my stupidity. What has Colin Farrell done?


Colin Farrell's most recent project is Minority Report.

Katze





From rvotaw at i-55.com  Mon Jul 29 23:22:06 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:22:06 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Black/Lupin Casting - Colin Farrell
References: <169.114a17a0.2a76e16c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <009701c23756$c1d0d8c0$ac9ecdd1@istu757>


> Wow. I can totally picture him as Sirius. Although he looks young, a
little
> age make-up can TOTALLY change that. Was he good in Bridget Jones's Diary
and
> Pride & Prejudice? I haven't seen either one of them.
>
> -airemay

Wow, I just looked Colin Farrell up, he does look like I pictured Sirius.
Haven't seen him in any movies, though.  He's very good looking. :)
However, it would take a LOT of makeup.  He's only my age!  And we know that
must be young.  He's about 30 years younger than Rickman is, though he's got
makeup that makes him look younger, I suppose they could add enough makeup
to Colin Farrell to make him look that much older.

Richelle




From divaclv at aol.com  Tue Jul 30 15:19:05 2002
From: divaclv at aol.com (c_voth312)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:19:05 -0000
Subject: Black/Lupin Casting
In-Reply-To: <002301c23726$b55078b0$7fe38780@Beth>
Message-ID: <ai6ap9+d2io@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Beth Larsen" <ealarsen at u...> wrote:
> First time poster, long-time lurker
> 
> A ways back there'd been some talk in the group about Anthony 
Stewart Head
> (Giles in Buffy the Vampire Slayer) as Lupin.  He would be perfect -
 at
> least given the age of Rickman as Snape.  I see that ASH was left 
out of
> this new poll though, because I guess no one's been throwing out 
his name
> very recently.  He was very good as a mentor figure on Buffy, and 
can be
> both funny or serious.  I can't really see him as Sirius though - 
he could
> be rumpled, shabby, even a little dangerous, etc., but not actually
> convincingly serial-killer-like to frighten muggles.  At least not 
that I
> can imagine.

I was one of the ones doing the original talking on ASH, so I'd 
better throw my vote in as well.  Probably because I tend to envision 
Lupin being a bit like Giles--studious-looking, strong mentor figure, 
seemingly quiet, but with a hidden dark side (in more ways than 
one).  

~Christi





From kechelsen at aol.com  Tue Jul 30 20:08:01 2002
From: kechelsen at aol.com (kathye_c)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:08:01 -0000
Subject: Black/Lupin Casting - Colin Farrell
In-Reply-To: <81.1f182749.2a771a74@aol.com>
Message-ID: <ai6rn1+p3cd@eGroups.com>

<< *dies* Please forgive my stupidity. What has Colin Farrell done?>>

Nothing to forgive... it's understandable... same first name, same 
initials...  <vbg>

Can't answer your question because I've never heard of Colin 
Farrell.  But you can find him on the Internet Movie Data base.  Go 
to www.imdb.com, and type his name in the search box.

Kathy





From ravenclaw775 at aol.com  Wed Jul 31 14:39:50 2002
From: ravenclaw775 at aol.com (ravenclaw775 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:39:50 EDT
Subject: Colin Farrell
Message-ID: <94.2a21b1e2.2a7950b6@aol.com>

He starred opposite Bruce Willis in Hart's War and opposite Tom Cruise in 
Minority Report.  He's also playing the shaved headed villian of Daredevil 
opposite Ben Affleck (releases in Feb., 2003 in the US).  He's from Dublin.  
And now pardon my hormones here, but he's extremely HOT (although rather 
young - I think he's 23)!  I'm all for his casting, anyway.  :-) 
--
Christine


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