From ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com  Sat Jun  1 02:56:20 2002
From: ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com (Petra Pan)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 19:56:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: EW & CoS // OotP ETA June '03
Message-ID: <20020601025620.14182.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com>

Wow, Entertainment Weekly got some great pictures...a perk for being
a sister company to Warner Bros. I suppose.  There seems to be words
etched into the arch of the window behind Snape...can anyone decipher
them?

Is this on the website?  Item #6 on Jim Mullen's HotSheet (should be
read with several grains of salt): "J.K. Rowling hasn't finished book
5 in time for this summer's anticipated release.  The good news is
that she has only 800 pages to go."  There is a cute little cartoon
of a stressed out looking Harry in front of a laptop.

--- "Felicia Rickmann" <feliciarickmann at d...>:
> [ --- yours truly: ] 
> > Also mentioned: "...Rowling has told her publishers she
> > needs more time to finish [OotP], prompting Scholastic to
> > assure antsy shareholders they can expect the book by June
> > 2003."
> >
> > That's more than a year away!!!
> >
> > Petra
> 
> A recent BBC report linked I think to the DVD release (although I 
> MIGHT be wrong there) said it was definitely a 2002 release - and
> that was from the publisher.

Perhaps you can be so kind as to provide the date of the report you
cite.  Raising false hope for the desperately obsessed <hand
a-raised> could be considered cruel, you know. <wink> But I'll be
happy to partake in whatever lone spring of hope you can provide
because I haven't been able to find any others.

All I've been able to locate are reports from other sources
indicating a 2003 release for OotP:

- Boston Globe
NEXT `POTTER' DELAYED, BUT SPELL HASN'T WORN OFF
Published on May 28, 2002.  Author(s): David Mehegan, Globe Staff

"That noise you've been hearing in the last 10 days is the sound of
millions of crests falling all over the world. The reason: Volume 5
of British author J.K. Rowling's fantastically popular Harry Potter
children's books will not be published this summer, as expected...

...'Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix' was expected to be
published in July.  But a spokeswoman for Bloomsbury...said the book
will probably not be published before 2003."

- The Washington Post, Monday, May 27, 2002; Page C14
Where's Harry? Rowling's Fans Wonder About Book 5
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14697-2002May26.html

"Like millions of kids (and adults) around the world, Emma and Tamika
each year sped through the Harry Potter book Rowling cranked out,
ending with 'Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire' in July 2000.

But then, it seems, Rowling's cauldron went dry.

If Rowling had kept up her old pace, Book 5 would have been out last
July. Then, it was widely expected to be ready this summer. Now fans
will be lucky to see Book 5 by the end of 2002.

According to Judy Corman of Scholastic, 'Potter's' U.S. publisher,
the book will be published sometime between now and June 2003.  No,
she says, Rowling has not been afflicted with writer's block."

> I have decided to travel the world until the book comes out -
Orkney 
> first - New York second.
> 
> Felicia

Oooh!  If you DO travel the globe, you can start a "It's a Harry
Potter World" collection.  :)  Mine is only three countries strong so
far and started because I've been lucky enough to do some world
traveling lately (on other people's galleons) and had picked up the
UK editions when I was in Edinburgh.  Then, since I already have the
US and UK versions, the only ones available in English that I know
of, I bought another set on my last trip abroad...am reading them in
one hand with a dictionary in the other.

At the rate I'm going, by the time I finish my "new" HP books, JKR
will probably have finished writing the 7th book...and THAT is saying
a lot!

Petra
a
n   :) who's pretty sure she won't be able to learn any more new
languages at this late stage without the omigod-midterm's-next-week incentive

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From bkdelong at pobox.com  Sat Jun  1 03:05:20 2002
From: bkdelong at pobox.com (B.K. DeLong)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 23:05:20 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Nitpick on the EW pictures
In-Reply-To: <3CF80699.A994F74@kingwoodcable.com>
References: <ad8sta+8ud3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020531230119.046354d0@brain-stream.com>

At 06:26 PM 5/31/2002 -0500, Katze wrote:
>The picture that bothered me was the one of Dobby. He looks sort of 
>grotesque to me.
>
>I like the picture of Harry standing on a floor with snakes heads on 
>either side. I'm looking forward to this next
>movie.

Actually that Dobby is pretty much in line with the drawing in the book:

http://kids.pxi.com/courtney/dobby/dobby2.gif
http://i.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/020530/121317__potter2_l.jpg


--
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The Harry Potter Galleries
http://www.hpgalleries.com/

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From editor at texas.net  Sat Jun  1 03:09:11 2002
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 22:09:11 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Whoa!  What incredible pictures!
References: <1D55C363E8@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <008d01c20919$b6129a20$5a7d63d1@texas.net>

> The pictures in Entertainment Weekly are fantastic!! I'll
> need to buy extra copies so I can cut them up for my
> scrapbook!

*clears throat*
Let us pray.
Dear Editorial Powers that move through the hearts and scissors of WB,
please look with favor upon the humble petition of your most nitpicky but
devoted followers, and please include in the final cut of Chamber of Secrets
the favorite scenes of many of us, yea, verily, even of all four books.
Let us see on the silver screen the duelling of Snape and Lockhart, show us
the curl of Snape's lip, the glitter of his eyes, Lockhart flying through
the air! Let us see Snape taking charge and shouting "Finite Incantatem!"
And oh, Editorial Powers, let us see the Staffroom Scene in its entirety, we
pray, that we may spiritually join the teachers as they band behind Snape to
exorcise Lockhart from their midst. Let us see Snape react to the news that
a student has been taken, so that we may dissect the character
interpretation of Alan Rickman, whom we know has gotten Snape backstory info
from the lips of the Creator herself.
O Ye Powers, add the thrills that you must, yea, even unto scenes which I
thought were pretty damned thrilling already; lead Harry through the valley
of darkness and across the face of a giant statue; make ye the Whomping
Willow look like a guy in a rubber suit--only give us these two scenes, we
humbly beseech thee.
Amen.

--Amanda
(I bet Amy could have said that better, but hardly with more purity of
intent and desire)





From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Sat Jun  1 06:46:12 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 07:46:12 +0100
Subject: Nitpick on the EW pictures
References: <ad8sta+8ud3@eGroups.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20020531230119.046354d0@brain-stream.com>
Message-ID: <004401c20938$0c504180$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>

>I like the picture of Harry standing on a floor with snakes heads on 
>either side. I'm looking forward to this next
>movie.

Actually that Dobby is pretty much in line with the drawing in the book:

http://kids.pxi.com/courtney/dobby/dobby2.gif
http://i.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/020530/121317__potter2_l.jpg


--
B.K. DeLong > >

Actually no - those of us in the UK has to useour own imaginations and came up with something completely different.  My books have no illustrations - what did they think we needed them for??

Felicia









From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Sat Jun  1 06:50:45 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 07:50:45 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Whoa!  What incredible pictures!
References: <1D55C363E8@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu> <008d01c20919$b6129a20$5a7d63d1@texas.net>
Message-ID: <004901c20938$a7862480$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>

<<*clears throat*
Let us pray.
Dear Editorial Powers ......................................... Editorial Powers, let us see the Staffroom Scene in its entirety, we
pray, that we may spiritually join the teachers as they band behind Snape to
exorcise Lockhart from their midst. Let us see Snape react to the news that
a student has been taken, so that we may dissect the character
interpretation of Alan Rickman, whom we know has gotten Snape backstory info
from the lips of the Creator herself.

Amen.

--Amanda > > >

Can I just say - I go along with all that DEFINITELY and No-One could have put it better - especially the Snape section - a work of art and special pleading in itself.  A beautifully phrased piece of work - can I suggest you do something similar for the next book and send it off in triplicate to each member of Bloomsbury/Scolastic/Warner so we get the next book and film quicker!

Felicia


Who wonders if this Amanda is Sheryl's chum - NY August 25th????







From ITZregina at hanson.net  Sat Jun  1 15:19:30 2002
From: ITZregina at hanson.net (River3_98)
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 15:19:30 -0000
Subject: Are any of the scenes on your DVD WAY too dark?
Message-ID: <adaom2+j4gc@eGroups.com>

  Everytime the screen gets dark I can barely see the actors.  Trying 
to see the cat turn into McGonagall, at the beginning of the movie, 
is near to impossible.  This darkness totally ruins the viewing in 
the Forbidden Forest, Fluffy's room and under the trap door scenes. 
Our DVD player is new.   Maybe I need a new DVD?

Gina




From dkewpie at pacbell.net  Sat Jun  1 16:57:58 2002
From: dkewpie at pacbell.net (kewpiebb99)
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 16:57:58 -0000
Subject: Are any of the scenes on your DVD WAY too dark?
In-Reply-To: <adaom2+j4gc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <adauem+tijr@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "River3_98" <ITZregina at h...> wrote:
>   Everytime the screen gets dark I can barely see the actors.  
Trying 
> to see the cat turn into McGonagall, at the beginning of the movie, 
> is near to impossible.  This darkness totally ruins the viewing in 
> the Forbidden Forest, Fluffy's room and under the trap door scenes. 
> Our DVD player is new.   Maybe I need a new DVD?
> 
> Gina

is your DVD hooked up with your VCR? (or any kind of other machine 
beside the TV?)
because sometimes it does that (for protection reason).
other than that, it probably is your TV monitor (you need to adjust 
it and bring up the brightness/contrast).







From ITZregina at hanson.net  Sat Jun  1 17:31:59 2002
From: ITZregina at hanson.net (River3_98)
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 17:31:59 -0000
Subject: Are any of the scenes on your DVD WAY too dark?
In-Reply-To: <adauem+tijr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <adb0ef+3cen@eGroups.com>

> 
> is your DVD hooked up with your VCR? (or any kind of other machine 
> beside the TV?)
> because sometimes it does that (for protection reason).
> other than that, it probably is your TV monitor (you need to adjust 
> it and bring up the brightness/contrast).

Thank you for the info!


Our DVD is hooked up to the VCR using an AVRF modulator because the 
VCR/TV is not digital compatible.  Our TV monitor, Zenith, doesn't 
have a brightness/contrast button for some reason.  I haven't noticed 
any other DVD's having this color problem. Then again, now that I 
think of it, "The Others" was hard to see.  I thought it was supposed 
to be like that?  I think I'll rent HP from Blockbuster and see what 
happens.  I had mine preordered from Walmart.






From ITZregina at hanson.net  Sat Jun  1 17:36:27 2002
From: ITZregina at hanson.net (River3_98)
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 17:36:27 -0000
Subject: Will Azkaban "explanations" be acted out as "in the past" scenes? 
Message-ID: <adb0mr+ed8m@eGroups.com>

Or will they just stand there and talk about it like in the book? 

My vote is for "seeing" the past. 

Gina




From ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk  Sat Jun  1 18:17:56 2002
From: ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin Hooper)
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 19:17:56 +0100
Subject: More DVD Movie Pics...
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020601191656.009e9560@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>

http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/zisp/thumbnail?id=3

More DVD Screencaps here...  Be warned a very large gallery of over 100 pics...

Martin J Hooper
http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Sat Jun  1 22:00:56 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 23:00:56 +0100
Subject: OotP ETA June '03 -  Lies all lies - well at least according to Bloomsbury......
References: <20020601025620.14182.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00c601c209b7$cea23fc0$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Perhaps you can be so kind as to provide the date of the report you
cite.  Raising false hope for the desperately obsessed <hand
a-raised> could be considered cruel, you know. <wink> But I'll be
happy to partake in whatever lone spring of hope you can provide
because I haven't been able to find any others.

This link goes to the (highly reputable) Childrens BBC site which quotes
* Bloomsbury, which publishes the books, says on its website the ideal release date now will be "early autumn 2002.*  http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/uk/newsid_1883000/1883492.stm

The second link comes from Bloomsbury where you can register to receive immeidate news of the longo long long awaited fifth book.

http://www.bloomsburymagazine.com/harrypotter/wizard/section/club.asp

Felicia





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From southernscotland at yahoo.com  Sun Jun  2 01:52:30 2002
From: southernscotland at yahoo.com (\lila phillips)
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 18:52:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: DVD screencaps
In-Reply-To: <1022828748.219.84035.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20020602015230.45257.qmail@web14501.mail.yahoo.com>

Martin Hooper said... 

Just got the DVD Movie - Here are some screencaps...

Hope you like...



Hi, there, Martin!

You've done a great job! Thanks so much!

I second the notion of more screen caps, if you can
get them! I also would love to have a capture of the
deleted scene at Christmas. The closeup where Harry is
pining for his parents. It's so very sweet and sad...

sigh...I have the DVD but not a DVD player on the
computer!


lilahp


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From editor at texas.net  Sun Jun  2 03:55:55 2002
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 22:55:55 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Whoa!  What incredible pictures!
References: <1D55C363E8@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu> <008d01c20919$b6129a20$5a7d63d1@texas.net> <004901c20938$a7862480$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <001401c209e9$66b89d00$257763d1@texas.net>

> Can I just say - I go along with all that DEFINITELY and No-One could have
put it better - especially the Snape section - a work of art and special
pleading in itself.  A beautifully phrased piece of work - can I suggest you
do something similar for the next book and send it off in triplicate to each
member of Bloomsbury/Scolastic/Warner so we get the next book and film
quicker!

*blushes* thank you! Let us all send our vibes their way....

> Who wonders if this Amanda is Sheryl's chum - NY August 25th????

Yes indeedy...first row seats no less. Counting down the days...

--Amanda




From ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk  Sun Jun  2 05:32:38 2002
From: ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin Hooper)
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 06:32:38 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] DVD screencaps
In-Reply-To: <20020602015230.45257.qmail@web14501.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1022828748.219.84035.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020602063152.00a7ae10@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>

At 02:52 02/06/02, you wrote:
>You've done a great job! Thanks so much!


Just in case you didn't get my post... There is a part 2 on my website 
now...  147 pics in Part 2...



Martin J Hooper
http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Sun Jun  2 13:32:09 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 14:32:09 +0100
Subject: What incredible pictures! Be warned!
References: <1D55C363E8@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu> <008d01c20919$b6129a20$5a7d63d1@texas.net> <004901c20938$a7862480$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq> <001401c209e9$66b89d00$257763d1@texas.net>
Message-ID: <005001c20a39$e5c67f40$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Yes indeedy...first row seats no less. Counting down the days...

--Amanda

OK - a word of warning (also applies to other visitors to PL).  The protagonists Snape - sorry Alan Rickman - and  Linsday Duncan  throw a lot of furniture and themselves about.  AR got a hell of a thump from a coffee table when I saw it - now as for being on the front row............

Better go off to do some Jubilee celebrating - 21 year old port awaits.... * hic *

Felicia

Pleased to see screen caps of Snape looking Very Fetching at the Quidditch Match thanks to Martin Hooper.






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From ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com  Sun Jun  2 18:12:04 2002
From: ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com (Petra Pan)
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 11:12:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: OotP ETA
In-Reply-To: <1023012824.734.62580.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20020602181204.12516.qmail@web21106.mail.yahoo.com>

Yours Truly:
> Perhaps you can be so kind as to provide the date of the report you
> cite.  Raising false hope for the desperately obsessed <hand
> a-raised> could be considered cruel, you know. <wink> But I'll be
> happy to partake in whatever lone spring of hope you can provide
> because I haven't been able to find any others.

From: "Felicia Rickmann" <feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com>
Subject: OotP ETA June '03 -  Lies all lies - well at least
according to Bloomsbury......
> This link goes to the (highly reputable) Childrens BBC site which
> quotes
> * Bloomsbury, which publishes the books, says on its website the
> ideal release date now will be "early autumn 2002.* 
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/uk/newsid_1883000/1883492.stm

<sigh> the above took me to a link that was "Updated 20 March 2002,
13.58" - has anyone seen anything more recent?

Petra
a
n  :)

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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Sun Jun  2 20:31:28 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 21:31:28 +0100
Subject: Third DVD information
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020601191656.009e9560@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <009201c20a74$78f680a0$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>

BBC Ceefax service Entertainment Section has a notice to the effect that a third DVD is in the works for Harry Potter and the Philisopher's Stone.  This one will be more adult based, although Paul Henstreet DVD director at Warners would not say what * could* be on the said DVD.

Chris Columbus has stated that he wants to do a commentary on the DVD, and as every day was documented throughout filimg there is a lot of material available.  The story, apparently, comes via the Los Angeles Times.  

Anyone with access to the Los Angeles Times may be able to shed further light.




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From Joanne0012 at aol.com  Sun Jun  2 22:32:40 2002
From: Joanne0012 at aol.com (joanne0012)
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 22:32:40 -0000
Subject: Third DVD information
In-Reply-To: <009201c20a74$78f680a0$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <ade6e8+stno@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Felicia Rickmann" <feliciarickmann at d...> wrote:
> BBC Ceefax service Entertainment Section has a notice to the effect that a 
third DVD is in the works for Harry Potter and the Philisopher's Stone.  This one 
will be more adult based, although Paul Henstreet DVD director at Warners would 
not say what * could* be on the said DVD.
> 
> Chris Columbus has stated that he wants to do a commentary on the DVD, and 
as every day was documented throughout filimg there is a lot of material 
available.  The story, apparently, comes via the Los Angeles Times.  
> 
> Anyone with access to the Los Angeles Times may be able to shed further 
light.

Everyone on the internet has access to the LATimes!  Here's the article.

http://www.calendarlive.com/top/1,1419,L-LATimes-Search-X!ArticleDetail-608
52,00.html

The following quote from the article makes the project seems  bit more iffy:
<<Director Chris Columbus, already busy on the second film in the series, "Harry 
Potter and the Chamber of Secrets," due for release this fall, "has expressed a 
desire at some point to go back and do commentary," Hemstreet says,>>  
(Hemstreet is vice president of special features/DVD for Warner Home Video. )




From kechelsen at aol.com  Sun Jun  2 23:05:35 2002
From: kechelsen at aol.com (kathye_c)
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 23:05:35 -0000
Subject: OotP ETA
In-Reply-To: <20020602181204.12516.qmail@web21106.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ade8bv+9532@eGroups.com>

<<sigh> the above took me to a link that was "Updated 20 March 2002,
> 13.58" - has anyone seen anything more recent?>>


I saw an article in the International Herald Tribune about three 
weeks ago... if I remember correctly it didn't say when the book 
would actually arrive, only that Ms. Rowling is still writing it, and 
it wouldn't be available in July as originally scheduled.




From hyzenthlay at jps.net  Mon Jun  3 04:37:45 2002
From: hyzenthlay at jps.net (Misty)
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 21:37:45 -0700
Subject: Whoa!  What incredible pictures!
References: <1022899620.1814.80611.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <3CFAF298.63797ECE@jps.net>

I for one love the picture of Dobby! Effectively startling without being
either one extreme of too-cute or too creepy.  In my opinion.

Misty

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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Mon Jun  3 07:00:39 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 08:00:39 +0100
Subject: Third DVD information
References: <ade6e8+stno@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <002901c20acc$60478060$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Everyone on the internet has access to the LATimes!  Here's the article.

http://www.calendarlive.com/top/1,1419,L-LATimes-Search-X!ArticleDetail-608
52,00.html

Not when your machine is struggling against a sudden virus attach from Winhex32 it isn't.

Felicia

Not irritated - just busy sorting out a serious virus problem....................



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From ITZregina at hanson.net  Mon Jun  3 16:13:27 2002
From: ITZregina at hanson.net (River3_98)
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 16:13:27 -0000
Subject: Has anyone heard about how well sales were for the DVD?
Message-ID: <adg4j7+4bnd@eGroups.com>

 I heard about first day sales in the UK, but that's it.  Too early?

Gina 




From ShelaghC at aol.com  Mon Jun  3 23:32:38 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 23:32:38 -0000
Subject: Okay, I'm sure *someone's* caught this before me...
Message-ID: <adguam+u3iv@eGroups.com>

but I have to mention it since it's new to me. <g>

Anyone else realize that if Harry, Hermione and Ron *hadn't* gone to 
prevent the Philosopher's stone from being snatched, Quirrell 
probably would never have found it?

After all, Professor Dumbledore *did* put a spell on it to prevent 
anyone from getting it that wanted to use it, eh?

Shelagh
having an actual thought for a change
 




From flower_fairy12 at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Jun  3 20:59:01 2002
From: flower_fairy12 at yahoo.co.uk (flower_fairy12)
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 20:59:01 -0000
Subject: Fourth Movie?
Message-ID: <adglal+s1or@eGroups.com>

On some sites it's going on about the fourth book being made into a 
movie. Where has this come from? I saw Rupert Grint on telly 
recently, and he says they are all only contracted to the first 2 at 
the moment, but there is likely to be a 3rd movie. 

Just wondering...

Rosie

P.S I'm new :)

http://magic-hogwarts.com





From mrflynn6 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  3 21:29:52 2002
From: mrflynn6 at yahoo.com (mrflynn6)
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 21:29:52 -0000
Subject: OotP ETA
In-Reply-To: <20020602181204.12516.qmail@web21106.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <adgn4g+2b87@eGroups.com>

> 
> <sigh> the above took me to a link that was "Updated 20 March 2002,
> 13.58" - has anyone seen anything more recent?
> 
> Petra
> a
>__________________________________________________________


On or about May 28, there was an article stating that Scholastic, the 
US publisher of the HP books said that there would be a book "by July 
2003".  I think I saw it on CNN.com.  Sorry, but I can't remember 
where I saw that.  I just wish they would HURRY UP!

mrflynn6




From divaclv at aol.com  Mon Jun  3 23:02:07 2002
From: divaclv at aol.com (c_voth312)
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 23:02:07 -0000
Subject: Will Azkaban "explanations" be acted out as "in the past" scenes?
In-Reply-To: <adb0mr+ed8m@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <adgshf+oecc@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "River3_98" <ITZregina at h...> wrote:
> Or will they just stand there and talk about it like in the book? 
> 
> My vote is for "seeing" the past. 
> 
> Gina

That's what I'd prefer too, and what I tend to "see" when I'm reading 
the book.  It would add to the visual aspect of the production and I 
think help keep the film moving.
I think how the Shreiking Shack scene is handled will be what makes 
or breaks the film version of PoA.  It is, IMNSHO, one of the best 
pieces of writing JKR has produced so far: intensly dramatic, 
emotionally charged, and simply captivating.  But I suspect it will 
be difficult to translate to film--it's very dialogue and exposition-
heavy, and in the hands of a weak cast and/or director it could end 
up dragging the film to a halt, instead of being the dramatic high 
point it should be.  Here's hoping it's put into competent hands.

~Christi





From mrflynn6 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  3 21:34:41 2002
From: mrflynn6 at yahoo.com (mrflynn6)
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 21:34:41 -0000
Subject: OofP story from CNN.com
Message-ID: <adgndh+fhn7@eGroups.com>

This is the addy for the story about Chris Columbus not directing PoA 
and at the end it has a blurb from Scholastic stating that they would 
have a book by July 2003. 



http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/29/film.potter.reut/index.ht
ml


Gretchen

sorry, I should have found this before I posted before.





From ShelaghC at aol.com  Tue Jun  4 14:53:26 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 14:53:26 -0000
Subject: Looking for Harry Potter interviews and making ofs
Message-ID: <adik96+f4pa@eGroups.com>

Please contact me offlist if you have any vids of interviews or 
making of specials for Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone.

I have a lot of diverse tapes I can trade for such things (including 
some UK interviews prior to the release of Fellowship of the Rings 
that have been converted from PAL).

Thanks

Shelagh





From bray.262 at osu.edu  Tue Jun  4 12:06:27 2002
From: bray.262 at osu.edu (Rachel Bray)
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 12:06:27 +0000 (EST5EDT)
Subject: BOY has Daniel's voice changed.   :-)
Message-ID: <7A0A361D91@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>

I just listened to the trailer for CoS.  I think I really 
like Dobby's voice.  What does everyone else think?

I wish someone would post the trailer!  I want to SEE this! 
 Not just HEAR it!

Rachel Bray
The Ohio State University
Fees, Deposits and Disbursements

LORD OF THE SNITCH
Three men form the chaser-squad under the sky 
Seven are the teammates on their brooms of wood
Two are Bludger balls charmed to fly
One is the dork Ref all on his own
On the field of Quidditch where the Quaffles lie.
One Snitch flits over all, one grab will win it
One game may take three months, or may take but a minute
On the field of Quidditch where the Quaffles lie.

http://home.att.net/~coriolan/hpfilks.htm



From draco at hewillbemine.co.uk  Tue Jun  4 16:24:50 2002
From: draco at hewillbemine.co.uk (draco at hewillbemine.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 17:24:50 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] BOY has Daniel's voice changed.   :-)
Message-ID: <342715.1023207890355.JavaMail.root@172.16.100.50>

>I wish someone would post the trailer! I want to SEE this! 
>Not just HEAR it! 

Of course I wish to see the trailer too - but hearing it would be cool as well! Where *did* you listen to it? I only saw the screencaptures... 

-Laura *who is a newbie! first post, whee...* 



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From ShelaghC at aol.com  Tue Jun  4 16:39:15 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 16:39:15 -0000
Subject: Deleted scenes response at www.harrypotter.com
Message-ID: <adiqfj+p88s@eGroups.com>

Seems the annoyed phone calls did *some* good.

http://harrypotter.warnerbros.com/web/dailyprophet/article.jsp?
id=Find_Deleted_Scenes

If that link doesn't work, go to www.harrypotter.com, click on the 
Daily Prophet, then on the link to the story about how to get to the 
deleted scenes.

There's no comment about why they're providing the information, but 
it is a step by step map on the quickest way to get to those scenes.

Shelagh
all the news that fits, we print





From ShelaghC at aol.com  Tue Jun  4 16:45:35 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 16:45:35 -0000
Subject: BOY has Daniel's voice changed.   :-)
In-Reply-To: <342715.1023207890355.JavaMail.root@172.16.100.50>
Message-ID: <adiqrf+2s8u@eGroups.com>

There are two links for the audio of the trailer. Unfortunately, the 
site is limited in its bandwidth and seems to exceed it rather 
quickly (and understandably).

http://www30.brinkster.com/harrypotterirc/CoS/default.asp 

http://www.harrypotterirc.co.uk/

Either one should get you the clips once the bandwidth permits again.

Shelagh
investigator extraordinairre



--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., draco at h... wrote:
> >I wish someone would post the trailer! I want to SEE this! 
> >Not just HEAR it! 
> 
> Of course I wish to see the trailer too - but hearing it would be 
cool as well! Where *did* you listen to it? I only saw the 
screencaptures... 
> 
> -Laura *who is a newbie! first post, whee...* 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Personalised email by http://another.com
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From draco at hewillbemine.co.uk  Tue Jun  4 16:51:24 2002
From: draco at hewillbemine.co.uk (draco at hewillbemine.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 17:51:24 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: BOY has Daniel's voice changed.   :-)
Message-ID: <2766337.1023209484467.JavaMail.root@172.16.100.50>

> the site is limited in its bandwidth and seems to exceed it rather 
> quickly (and understandably).

Yup, it had indeed exceeded the bandwidth when I tried. But The Leaky Cauldron has placed it on their servers now:

http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/sounds/costrailer.mp3 

It's cool!

-Laura


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From ShelaghC at aol.com  Tue Jun  4 17:10:07 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 17:10:07 -0000
Subject: BOY has Daniel's voice changed.   :-)
In-Reply-To: <2766337.1023209484467.JavaMail.root@172.16.100.50>
Message-ID: <adis9f+vg0c@eGroups.com>

Very cool! Thanks!

Any chance anyone was able to snag the screencaps before the 
bandwidth was exceeded too?

Shelagh
becoming intrigued....




--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., draco at h... wrote:
> > the site is limited in its bandwidth and seems to exceed it 
rather 
> > quickly (and understandably).
> 
> Yup, it had indeed exceeded the bandwidth when I tried. But The 
Leaky Cauldron has placed it on their servers now:
> 
> http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/sounds/costrailer.mp3 
> 
> It's cool!
> 
> -Laura
> 
> 
> --
> Personalised email by http://another.com
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From draco at hewillbemine.co.uk  Tue Jun  4 17:28:05 2002
From: draco at hewillbemine.co.uk (draco at hewillbemine.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 18:28:05 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: BOY has Daniel's voice changed.   :-)
Message-ID: <2351257.1023211685159.JavaMail.root@172.16.100.50>

>Any chance anyone was able to snag the screencaps before the 
>bandwidth was exceeded too?

Well, I didn't actually save them, but I was smart enough to look in my Temporary Internet Files folder right after I found out the site had exceeded bandwidth, and they were still there, so I quickly copied them to my My Documents folder. I shall upload them to my server (with unlimited bandwidth, if I'm not mistaken) in a couple of mins :)

-Laura


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From ShelaghC at aol.com  Tue Jun  4 17:31:03 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 17:31:03 -0000
Subject: BOY has Daniel's voice changed.   :-)
In-Reply-To: <2351257.1023211685159.JavaMail.root@172.16.100.50>
Message-ID: <aditgn+oor4@eGroups.com>

*Way* cool!

Looking forward to that link!

Shelagh
being far too free with her online time at work today, but it's rainy 
and miserable and she has a sinus headache, so there....




--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., draco at h... wrote:
> >Any chance anyone was able to snag the screencaps before the 
> >bandwidth was exceeded too?
> 
> Well, I didn't actually save them, but I was smart enough to look 
in my Temporary Internet Files folder right after I found out the 
site had exceeded bandwidth, and they were still there, so I quickly 
copied them to my My Documents folder. I shall upload them to my 
server (with unlimited bandwidth, if I'm not mistaken) in a couple of 
mins :)
> 
> -Laura
> 
> 





From draco at hewillbemine.co.uk  Tue Jun  4 17:32:36 2002
From: draco at hewillbemine.co.uk (draco at hewillbemine.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 18:32:36 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Cos Pics (was: Re: BOY has Daniel's voice changed.   :-))
Message-ID: <1097693.1023211956179.JavaMail.root@172.16.100.50>

>*Way* cool!
>
>Looking forward to that link!

Right, here they are:

http://www.broenink-art.nl/stuff/cospics/

Enjoy!

-Laura


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From bray.262 at osu.edu  Tue Jun  4 18:21:20 2002
From: bray.262 at osu.edu (duranduran88)
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 18:21:20 -0000
Subject: CoS pictures
Message-ID: <adj0f0+lf75@eGroups.com>

YES!  It looks like (so far, anyway) that they show Snape and 
Lockhart dueling!!  YAY!

But I'm curious about the picture of the car in front (?) of the 
Hogwarts Express...or am I looking at this picture wrong?

Heeeeeeeeee!  I've been giggling off and on all day with the "You 
wish."  :-)

Rachel Bray




From ShelaghC at aol.com  Tue Jun  4 18:24:46 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 18:24:46 -0000
Subject: Cos Pics (was: Re: BOY has Daniel's voice changed.   :-))
In-Reply-To: <1097693.1023211956179.JavaMail.root@172.16.100.50>
Message-ID: <adj0le+c7i3@eGroups.com>

This is looking *very* interesting.....

Shelagh
one of the rare ones that's chosen to see the movies before reading 
the books



--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., draco at h... wrote:
> >*Way* cool!
> >
> >Looking forward to that link!
> 
> Right, here they are:
> 
> http://www.broenink-art.nl/stuff/cospics/
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> -Laura
> 
> 
> --
> Personalised email by http://another.com
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From bray.262 at osu.edu  Tue Jun  4 18:25:09 2002
From: bray.262 at osu.edu (duranduran88)
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 18:25:09 -0000
Subject: So...this is going to be on...?
Message-ID: <adj0m5+dnci@eGroups.com>

This is running with Scooby Doo, yes?  Or does someone know when it's 
going to be on the net somewhere...?

Hmmm, I wasn't going to see Scooby but I may sneak in now for at 
least the previews....hmmmm.


Rachel Bray
*off to listen to the trailer "just one more time"*




From ShelaghC at aol.com  Tue Jun  4 18:27:31 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 18:27:31 -0000
Subject: So...this is going to be on...?
In-Reply-To: <adj0m5+dnci@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <adj0qj+pv7f@eGroups.com>

Do what I'm going to do.

See another movie, sneak into a Scooby Doo showing just till the 
trailers are over, then go to the movie you planned to see.

Shelagh
sneaky


--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "duranduran88" <bray.262 at o...> wrote:
> Hmmm, I wasn't going to see Scooby but I may sneak in now for at 
> least the previews....hmmmm.
> 
> 
> Rachel Bray
> *off to listen to the trailer "just one more time"*




From kechelsen at aol.com  Tue Jun  4 20:58:57 2002
From: kechelsen at aol.com (kathye_c)
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 20:58:57 -0000
Subject: Cos Pics (was: Re: BOY has Daniel's voice changed.   :-))
In-Reply-To: <adj0le+c7i3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <adj9mh+rj2j@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "shelaghcol" <ShelaghC at a...> wrote:
> This is looking *very* interesting.....
> 
It is indeed... I am looking forward to seeing Kenneth Branagh as 
Lockhart.

Does anyone know who is doing the voice of Dobby?  It sounds familar 
to me.

Kathy




From Joanne0012 at aol.com  Tue Jun  4 21:38:12 2002
From: Joanne0012 at aol.com (joanne0012)
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 21:38:12 -0000
Subject: Cos Pics (was: Re: BOY has Daniel's voice changed.   :-))
In-Reply-To: <adj9mh+rj2j@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <adjc04+c988@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "kathye_c" <kechelsen at a...> wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know who is doing the voice of Dobby?  It sounds familar 
> to me.

West End star Toby Jones was chosen to do Dobby's voice.  Jones was named 
Best Supporting Actor at the Olivier Awards for his performance in The Play 
What I Wrote.




From jprescot at uci.edu  Tue Jun  4 22:04:31 2002
From: jprescot at uci.edu (PrncsPnut)
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 22:04:31 -0000
Subject: PoA - Sirius Casting
Message-ID: <adjdhf+asft@eGroups.com>

Hiya,
I dont think I've posted here before (but I've been lurking for 
some time).
anyhow, I showed a friend of mine a photo of Robson Green and shared 
the rumor about him being a possibility as Sirius Black.
He wasn't impressed, (even though I like Robson Green!).
Anyhow, he suggested Jason Carter (yes, he's british).
what do you think?   here is a link to a site about him with some 
photos.  I've never seen Babylon 5, but thats what he's known for.

http://members.aol.com/ZigiStr591/

Anyhow, thought I'd share. :)
cheers,
Jenny




From jprescot at uci.edu  Tue Jun  4 22:13:40 2002
From: jprescot at uci.edu (PrncsPnut)
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 22:13:40 -0000
Subject: Cos Trailer prob
Message-ID: <adje2k+ah7d@eGroups.com>

Hiya,
ok, when i tried to download the CoS mp3, it says "document contains 
no data."  and when i did manage to get it to download once, it was 
all garbled and I can't understand a thing!
Help!

Has anyone saved it??  are we allowed to post such things here at 
yahoo?

thanks
jenny




From siskiou at earthlink.net  Tue Jun  4 22:32:02 2002
From: siskiou at earthlink.net (Susanne)
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:32:02 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Cos Trailer prob
In-Reply-To: <adje2k+ah7d@eGroups.com>
References: <adje2k+ah7d@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <181157433898.20020604153202@earthlink.net>



Hi,

Tuesday, June 04, 2002, 3:13:40 PM, jprescot at uci.edu wrote:

> Has anyone saved it??  are we allowed to post such things here at 
> yahoo?

I saved it without problems and played it with RealOne
player, if that helps.

Did you try downloading it to your harddrive before playing
it?

-- 
Best regards,
 Susanne                           mailto:siskiou at earthlink.net




From Dar20 at aol.com  Wed Jun  5 14:27:54 2002
From: Dar20 at aol.com (darlenebuell)
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 14:27:54 -0000
Subject: observation on a deleted scene
In-Reply-To: <1C5C155A85@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <adl75a+ofse@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Rachel Bray <bray.262 at o...> wrote:
> When Ron and Hermione are going back and forth over their 
> homework in the Neville leg-lock scene....doesn't Harry 
> pull a great Silent Bob moment when Ron goes off about how 
> insulting the anti-cheating quills were....?
> 
> Just curious if anyone caught that, too.  :-)
 
Oh, yes, Rachel.  It's a shame they cut that scene just because that 
look is priceless.  I'm wondering, though.  Since they supposedly 
shot two scenes.. an 'American' (which references the SS) and regular 
(PS) version.. does the PS version have the same expression?  

Dar




From bray.262 at osu.edu  Wed Jun  5 16:39:29 2002
From: bray.262 at osu.edu (duranduran88)
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 16:39:29 -0000
Subject: Different versions (observation on a deleted scene)
In-Reply-To: <adl75a+ofse@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <adles1+mk5h@eGroups.com>

I'm wondering, though.  Since they supposedly 
> shot two scenes.. an 'American' (which references the SS) and 
regular 
> (PS) version.. does the PS version have the same expression?  
> 
> Dar

WHOA!

I forgot that it would be different because of that! That's a very 
good question.

Hmmm.....

Well, one way to find out is to have someone freeze the UK version 
and send a picture of it....I believe Martin can do this.

Oh, Maaaaartin!  Could you do this for us?!




Rachel Bray




From Dar20 at aol.com  Wed Jun  5 16:41:06 2002
From: Dar20 at aol.com (darlenebuell)
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 16:41:06 -0000
Subject: Different versions (observation on a deleted scene)
In-Reply-To: <adles1+mk5h@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <adlev2+3qhr@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "duranduran88" <bray.262 at o...> wrote:
> I'm wondering, though.  Since they supposedly 
> > shot two scenes.. an 'American' (which references the SS) and 
> regular 
> > (PS) version.. does the PS version have the same expression?  
> > 
> > Dar
> 
> WHOA!
> 
> I forgot that it would be different because of that! That's a very 
> good question.

Well, Rachel, I ordered my PS from chapters.ca, so I can compare the 
two and let you know when I get it!  :)  Yay!  Can't wait for it!

Dar




From Dar20 at aol.com  Wed Jun  5 16:52:59 2002
From: Dar20 at aol.com (darlenebuell)
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 16:52:59 -0000
Subject: Cos Pics and casting questions answered
In-Reply-To: <adj9mh+rj2j@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <adlflb+fq54@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "kathye_c" <kechelsen at a...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "shelaghcol" <ShelaghC at a...> wrote:
> > This is looking *very* interesting.....
> > 
> It is indeed... I am looking forward to seeing Kenneth Branagh as 
> Lockhart.
> 
> Does anyone know who is doing the voice of Dobby?  It sounds 
familar 
> to me.
> 
> Kathy

Just a tip, if you go to www.imdb.com (Internet Movie Database, one 
of my fav websites), it will help.

Dar




From ickle_ronniekins at yahoo.com  Wed Jun  5 13:23:08 2002
From: ickle_ronniekins at yahoo.com (ickle_ronniekins)
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 13:23:08 -0000
Subject: Something's Wrong in the CoS Poster
Message-ID: <adl3bs+grll@eGroups.com>

The first CoS Poster says that "Dobby has come to warn you sir." (I 
think it's very safe to assume that it was Dobby who said that...) 
But Dobby warned Harry when he was still at the Dursleys. The poster 
unmistakably shows a Hogwarts background...

-Ron Yu





From LysaK99 at cs.com  Wed Jun  5 16:53:02 2002
From: LysaK99 at cs.com (LysaK99 at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 12:53:02 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA - Sirius Casting
Message-ID: <177.95b2c4b.2a2f9bee@cs.com>

In a message dated 6/4/02 4:04:56 PM Mountain Daylight Time, jprescot at uci.edu 
writes:

> Hiya,
>  I dont think I've posted here before (but I've been lurking for 
>  some time).
>  anyhow, I showed a friend of mine a photo of Robson Green and shared 
>  the rumor about him being a possibility as Sirius Black.
>  He wasn't impressed, (even though I like Robson Green!).
>  Anyhow, he suggested Jason Carter (yes, he's british).
>  what do you think?   here is a link to a site about him with some 
>  photos.  I've never seen Babylon 5, but thats what he's known for.
>  
>  http://members.aol.com/ZigiStr591/
>  
>  Anyhow, thought I'd share. :)
>  cheers,
>  Jenny
>  
  He would be an awesome Sirius!!!  And I am a huge Sirius fan, so I am very 
picky!  I also hope Ewan MacGregor is available as Lupin.  I think he would 
be great as well.

  Lysa




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Wed Jun  5 17:41:39 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 18:41:39 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA - Sirius Casting
References: <adjdhf+asft@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <002401c20cb8$3f9a7c80$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Anyhow, he suggested Jason Carter (yes, he's british).
what do you think?   here is a link to a site about him with some 
photos.  I've never seen Babylon 5, but thats what he's known for.

http://members.aol.com/ZigiStr591/

Anyhow, thought I'd share. :)
cheers,
Jenny

Hmmmm Not what I had in mind,  Someone thinner and more gaunt looking a bit Jeremy Iron-ish (note I did not say Jeremy Irons OK) but someone of that rather hunted but still slightly less than ugly.

Felicia






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From ShelaghC at aol.com  Wed Jun  5 17:46:22 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 17:46:22 -0000
Subject: Something's Wrong in the CoS Poster
In-Reply-To: <adl3bs+grll@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <adlipe+1eiv@eGroups.com>

I wouldn't worry about that. Just call it artistic license (or 
licence ;->). After all, doesn't a picture of Hogwarts make for a 
much more interesting background than one of the Dursleys' home?

Shelagh
artists 'r' us


--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "ickle_ronniekins" <ickle_ronniekins at y...> 
wrote:
> The first CoS Poster says that "Dobby has come to warn you sir." (I 
> think it's very safe to assume that it was Dobby who said that...) 
> But Dobby warned Harry when he was still at the Dursleys. The 
poster 
> unmistakably shows a Hogwarts background...
> 
> -Ron Yu




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Wed Jun  5 17:45:38 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 18:45:38 +0100
Subject: observation on a deleted scene - enough!!
References: <adl75a+ofse@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <004e01c20cb8$ce0bf0c0$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Rachel Bray <bray.262 at o...> wrote:
> When Ron and Hermione are going back and forth over their 
> homework in the Neville leg-lock scene....doesn't Harry 
> pull a great Silent Bob moment when Ron goes off about how 
> insulting the anti-cheating quills were....?
> 
> Just curious if anyone caught that, too.  :-)

Oh, yes, Rachel.  It's a shame they cut that scene just because that 
look is priceless.  I'm wondering, though.  Since they supposedly 
shot two scenes.. an 'American' (which references the SS) and regular 
(PS) version.. does the PS version have the same expression?  


OK that's it I've had it with this Silent Bob business.  

I'm going to get my (British - Golden Jubilee Celetrating DVD out of it's box and find this damned  * moment * once and for all.

OK 

Felicia


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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Wed Jun  5 17:47:10 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 18:47:10 +0100
Subject: Different versions (observation on a deleted scene)
References: <adles1+mk5h@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <006401c20cb9$04d13de0$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Hmmm.....

Well, one way to find out is to have someone freeze the UK version 
and send a picture of it....I believe Martin can do this.

Oh, Maaaaartin!  Could you do this for us?!


Rachel Bray

Ever felt popular Martin!  * G *

Felicia

(A great Martin fan because of his great screen caps of Snape........)




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Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 13:29:30 -0500
Subject: ADMIN: Reminder about Posting Rules
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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Wed Jun  5 20:00:53 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 21:00:53 +0100
Subject: Silent Bob-ing - U.K. Version
References: <aditgn+oor4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001e01c20ccb$b2c75ee0$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>

FIRSTLY.

OK I've looked * them * up on the web, viewed a preview of * their * (Jay & Silent Bob) 2001 film; worked out roughly what Silent Bob is meant to do/be then checked my UK DVD to see if Harry is * Silent Bob-ing * in the leg locker scene.

Weeeeeeeeeell, if making a few amused faces while Ron looks foolish at Hermione's questions is Silent Bob-ing I guess he is, sort of, if you call it that, ermmmmmmmmm.   OK, OK maybe my sense of humour just went on holiday  ;-))))

LASTLY. It would be a great help if someone could point a post-Jubilee HPfGU member in the direction of this CoS trailer I heard about - but have not tracked down.  If it appeared very recently then I apologise in advance we just got over a winhex32 virus that trashed lost of my email back catalogue %-)

Felicia




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From bray.262 at osu.edu  Wed Jun  5 20:39:51 2002
From: bray.262 at osu.edu (duranduran88)
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 20:39:51 -0000
Subject: Casting: Lupin
Message-ID: <adlsun+9jar@eGroups.com>

I think it's a pretty solid rumor (ha ha) that Ewan has been 
approached to play Lupin.  Which, in my opinion would be wonderful as 
Lupin and Sirius are my favorite characters and Ewan is one of my 
favorite actors.

Hmmm...wonder if there's anywhere in the Potter-realm for Colin 
Firth.....  :-)




Rachel Bray
*who is wishing to God she never mentioned Silent Bob*




From siskiou at earthlink.net  Wed Jun  5 20:51:52 2002
From: siskiou at earthlink.net (Susanne)
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 13:51:52 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Casting: Lupin
In-Reply-To: <adlsun+9jar@eGroups.com>
References: <adlsun+9jar@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <84237836113.20020605135152@earthlink.net>



Hi,

Wednesday, June 05, 2002, 1:39:51 PM, bray.262 at osu.edu wrote:

> I think it's a pretty solid rumor (ha ha) that Ewan has been 
> approached to play Lupin.

So, does this mean it's pretty sure they will make a third
movie?

On imdb the kids are listed for the 3rd movie, but I'd heard
they were only under contract for the first 2.

I have to admit to being very loyal, and I wouldn't watch
the movie if they replaced the kids.

-- 
Best regards,
 Susanne                           mailto:siskiou at earthlink.net




From kechelsen at aol.com  Wed Jun  5 21:16:24 2002
From: kechelsen at aol.com (kathye_c)
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 21:16:24 -0000
Subject: New Director for third film?
Message-ID: <adlv38+2aa4@eGroups.com>

According to Newsweek International, Warner "must" replace Chris 
Columbus for PoA.  According to the article, he's weary of never 
seeing his family.  The article included a "shortlist" of replacement 
directors:

Callie Khouri (director of Divine Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood)
Kenneth Branagh
and Alfonso Cuaron, who directed Y Tu Mama Tambien.

Now, of those three, only Branagh is familiar to me, and seems to me 
a good choice, especially since he will be in the second film.

The article also said that as the young actors playing the trio 
are "ageing faster than their characters" they may have to be 
replaced for the fourth film.

Kathy

PS: Thanks to those who answered my question about Dobby's voice!




From siskiou at earthlink.net  Wed Jun  5 21:46:37 2002
From: siskiou at earthlink.net (Susanne)
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 14:46:37 -0700
Subject: Ageing too fast? was Re: [HPFGU-Movie] New Director for third film?
In-Reply-To: <adlv38+2aa4@eGroups.com>
References: <adlv38+2aa4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <0241121599.20020605144637@earthlink.net>



Hi,

Wednesday, June 05, 2002, 2:16:24 PM, kechelsen at aol.com wrote:

> The article also said that as the young actors playing the trio 
> are "ageing faster than their characters" they may have to be 
> replaced for the fourth film.

Ack!

That's what I was afraid to hear!

Though, as far as I know, Tom Felton is much older than the
character he plays.

Do most people not care if the actors change, as long as
there is another movie?

Am I just a bit strange with my feelings about that? ;)

I also have to admit to the trio being my main enjoymentboth
in the books and the movie(s),(despite being from the "older"
generation), not Snape, Sirius or Lupin :}

-- 
Best regards,
 Susanne                           mailto:siskiou at earthlink.net




From jillyharris at triton.net  Wed Jun  5 22:20:37 2002
From: jillyharris at triton.net (Jilly Harris)
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 18:20:37 -0400
Subject: Ageing too fast? was Re: [HPFGU-Movie] New Director for third film?
References: <adlv38+2aa4@eGroups.com> <0241121599.20020605144637@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <3CFE8EB4.1965E105@triton.net>



Susanne wrote:

Wednesday, June 05, 2002, 2:16:24 PM, kechelsen at aol.com wrote:

>
> > The article also said that as the young actors playing the trio
> > are "ageing faster than their characters" they may have to be
> > replaced for the fourth film.
>
> Ack!
>
> That's what I was afraid to hear!
>
> Though, as far as I know, Tom Felton is much older than the
> character he plays.
>
> Do most people not care if the actors change, as long as
> there is another movie?

I DO care. I'm used to Daniel as Harry, Rupert as Ron, etc. I think it
would be wrong for them to change mid through. That would be like
Harrison Ford not being Indian Jones in the 4th movie coming out in
2005. Also Tom is quite a bit older than his character. He's 15. Of
course Rupert is 14 so he's 2 years older than Ron, and Daniel is 13.
Emma is currently the only the same age as her character, but that'll
change come POA because it's coming out a year later then the others
did.

Jilly





From nee1 at worldnet.att.net  Wed Jun  5 23:41:54 2002
From: nee1 at worldnet.att.net (Renee Gunn)
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 18:41:54 -0500
Subject: Ageing too fast? was Re: [HPFGU-Movie] New Director for third film?
References: <adlv38+2aa4@eGroups.com> <0241121599.20020605144637@earthlink.net> <3CFE8EB4.1965E105@triton.net>
Message-ID: <001701c20cea$941ffc80$ac7afea9@oemcomputer>

  I agree.  I don't think they need to be replaced.  I mean, look at movies in the past where the cast were suppossed to be teenagers, but those playing them were in their twenties or even early thirties.  Anything's possible with the magic of tv.  Plus, really if you think about it.  In your teens, later teens (15-18)  You don't look all that different year to year.  So I don't think they really have to be replaced, unless for some reason the actors decided that they no longer wanted to play the part.  

  Nee


  I DO care. I'm used to Daniel as Harry, Rupert as Ron, etc. I think it
  would be wrong for them to change mid through. That would be like
  Harrison Ford not being Indian Jones in the 4th movie coming out in
  2005. Also Tom is quite a bit older than his character. He's 15. Of
  course Rupert is 14 so he's 2 years older than Ron, and Daniel is 13.
  Emma is currently the only the same age as her character, but that'll
  change come POA because it's coming out a year later then the others
  did.

  Jilly




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From divaclv at aol.com  Wed Jun  5 23:16:50 2002
From: divaclv at aol.com (c_voth312)
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 23:16:50 -0000
Subject: Casting: Lupin
In-Reply-To: <adlsun+9jar@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <adm652+k8a9@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "duranduran88" <bray.262 at o...> wrote:
> I think it's a pretty solid rumor (ha ha) that Ewan has been 
> approached to play Lupin.  Which, in my opinion would be wonderful 
as 
> Lupin and Sirius are my favorite characters and Ewan is one of my 
> favorite actors.

Don't get me wrong, I love Ewan too, but Lupin?....Lupin is a 
contemporary of Snape, and to my eyes EG looks /much/ younger than 
Alan Rickman.  My personal favorite for the role is Anthony Steward-
Head, but someone on another message board I'm on mentioned Jeremy 
Northham, which I wouldn't mind.

> Hmmm...wonder if there's anywhere in the Potter-realm for Colin 
> Firth.....  :-)
> 

If you ask me, Firth would make an excellent Sirius Black. :-)

~Christi





From divaclv at aol.com  Wed Jun  5 23:18:50 2002
From: divaclv at aol.com (c_voth312)
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 23:18:50 -0000
Subject: Something's Wrong in the CoS Poster
In-Reply-To: <adlipe+1eiv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <adm68q+tr6o@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "shelaghcol" <ShelaghC at a...> wrote:
> I wouldn't worry about that. Just call it artistic license (or 
> licence ;->). After all, doesn't a picture of Hogwarts make for a 
> much more interesting background than one of the Dursleys' home?
> 
> Shelagh
> artists 'r' us
> 
> 
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "ickle_ronniekins" <ickle_ronniekins at y...> 
> wrote:
> > The first CoS Poster says that "Dobby has come to warn you sir." 
(I 
> > think it's very safe to assume that it was Dobby who said 
that...) 
> > But Dobby warned Harry when he was still at the Dursleys. The 
> poster 
> > unmistakably shows a Hogwarts background...
> > 
> > -Ron Yu

Could I get a link to this, please? :-)

~Christi





From jprescot at uci.edu  Wed Jun  5 23:39:59 2002
From: jprescot at uci.edu (PrncsPnut)
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 23:39:59 -0000
Subject: Casting: Lupin
In-Reply-To: <84237836113.20020605135152@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <adm7gf+3pdu@eGroups.com>

Hi,
Yes, I agree.
I would hate it if they re-cast the kids.  I would still see the 
movie, (especially if they found a way to include Colin Firth), but 
it wouldn't be the same without Rupert Grint as Ron.  I think I would 
miss him the most.  But, I would hate to see Daniel Radcliffe 
recast.  As they say in the DVD, the three of them have a chemistry, 
don't they?  They should just hire all of us to make the movies.  
Only problem would be that the movie would match the books exactly 
and would end up being 6 hours long - each! *g*
Cheers,
Jenny

> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Wednesday, June 05, 2002, 1:39:51 PM, bray.262 at o... wrote:
> 
> > I think it's a pretty solid rumor (ha ha) that Ewan has been 
> > approached to play Lupin.
> 
> So, does this mean it's pretty sure they will make a third
> movie?
> 
> On imdb the kids are listed for the 3rd movie, but I'd heard
> they were only under contract for the first 2.
> 
> I have to admit to being very loyal, and I wouldn't watch
> the movie if they replaced the kids.
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
>  Susanne                           mailto:siskiou at e...




From richasi at azlance.com  Thu Jun  6 00:00:53 2002
From: richasi at azlance.com (Richasi)
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 20:00:53 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Casting: Lupin
In-Reply-To: <adm7gf+3pdu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000301c20ced$3a3799a0$e6d51b18@cfl.rr.com>


Jenny said:

> don't they?  They should just hire all of us to make the movies.
> Only problem would be that the movie would match the books exactly
> and would end up being 6 hours long - each! *g*


And you complain about that? ;) I'd hate to see them recast as well.
Once you see an actor/actress play a part it is hard to see anyone
else in that roll. Especially for roles as big and as coveted as
the ones in HP. But, I guess we have to just keep in the back of
our minds that it is possible that by the 4th movie.. it may be
impossible to keep the same cast. Would it ruin the magic? In
some ways. The universe of Harry Potter would still be on screen...
but the chemistry and the love for the actors/characters would
be different.

It would be like some new actor playing Captain Kirk or,
as someone mentioned, Indiana Jones. It would work, but it
wouldn't work as well.

On the flipside of that, it seems that they WANT to do all
the movies - at this point anyway - so we'll see what
happens I guess.

Richasi
(who can't wait to see the COS teaser trailer now that he's
heard it)








From MalfoyChicka3121 at aol.com  Thu Jun  6 00:09:27 2002
From: MalfoyChicka3121 at aol.com (MalfoyChicka3121 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 20:09:27 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Casting: Lupin
Message-ID: <13c.f5dcefd.2a300237@aol.com>

In a message dated 6/5/2002 6:37:07 PM Central Daylight Time, divaclv at aol.com 
writes:


> If you ask me, Firth would make an excellent Sirius Black. :-)

Hmmm....colin firth as sirius? Interesting possibilities. But to tell you the 
truth, colin seems way to...nice to play sirius. You know what i mean? Colin 
seems really preppy almost and doesnt seem to have that darkness sirius 
radiates. I could be wrong, i've only seen colin firth in Bridget Jones's 
Diary.  But, Sirius needs to be played by someone whose dark and mysterious, 
and i dont think colin is much of either. :) 

Chelsey


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From Joanne0012 at aol.com  Thu Jun  6 01:26:19 2002
From: Joanne0012 at aol.com (joanne0012)
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 01:26:19 -0000
Subject: Ageing too fast? was Re: [HPFGU-Movie] New Director for third film?
In-Reply-To: <3CFE8EB4.1965E105@triton.net>
Message-ID: <admdnr+qlqk@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Jilly Harris <jillyharris at t...> wrote:
> Tom is quite a bit older than his character. He's 15. Of
> course Rupert is 14 so he's 2 years older than Ron, and Daniel is 13.
> Emma is currently the only the same age as her character, but that'll
> change come POA because it's coming out a year later then the others
> did.

I believe that you've aged most of these kids a year -- IMDB lists their birthdays 
thus:
Felton - September 87 
Grint - August 88
Radcliffe -- July 89
Watson -- April 90

So next month, Dan will turn 13, just as he's presumably beginning to film PoA, in 
which Harry is 13.  Rupert will be 14 in August and Felton will be 15 in 
September.  

Frankly, I think the news article that speculated about them aging too fast was 
far off the mark -- in film and television, the child actors are older than their 
characters more often than not. (As we've already seen with Felton and Grint.)  
On US television shows about high-school students, many of the actors  are in 
their twenties!




From Caeser56 at si.rr.com  Thu Jun  6 02:02:45 2002
From: Caeser56 at si.rr.com (c)
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 22:02:45 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Casting: Lupin
References: <13c.f5dcefd.2a300237@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001301c20cfe$3fe5b380$2f98a418@a>


Chelsey Wrote:

Hmmm....colin firth as sirius? Interesting possibilities. But to tell you the 
truth, colin seems way to...nice to play sirius. You know what i mean? Colin 
seems really preppy almost and doesnt seem to have that darkness sirius 
radiates. I could be wrong, i've only seen colin firth in Bridget Jones's 
Diary.  But, Sirius needs to be played by someone whose dark and mysterious, 
and i dont think colin is much of either. :) 

Chelsey

------------end of quote-------------------

I agree that Colin Firth doesn't seem...right... And to Christi, whom I also agree that Ewan McGregor, while a good actor in his own right isn't a contemporary of Rickman. My two favorite picks for Lupin and Sirius, though obviously unrealistic, have always been Al Pacino and Robert De Niro. Yes, they are not British, but they are also two fo the best actors of all time and would easily, in my opinion, be able to accurately portray Brits(not to mention the fact that both are method actors, taking a lot more time to prepare and accurately portray their roles). Also, both already have the look and the feel of the characters- my personal thoughts being Pacino as Sirius(If you've ever seen him as the devil in The Devil's Advocate, you can see the fire with which he can speak and would be perfect for the explosive but caring Black), and De Niro as Lupin. I know its unrealistic to expect this, but hey, in a dream world they'd make perfect picks, I think! Any Thoughts?

-Vin


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From jillyharris at triton.net  Thu Jun  6 02:02:12 2002
From: jillyharris at triton.net (Jilly Harris)
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 22:02:12 -0400
Subject: Ageing too fast? was Re: [HPFGU-Movie] New Director for third film?
References: <admdnr+qlqk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3CFEC2A4.87A9602F@triton.net>



joanne0012 wrote:

>  I believe that you've aged most of these kids a year -- IMDB lists
> their birthdays
> thus:
> Felton - September 87
> Grint - August 88
> Radcliffe -- July 89
> Watson -- April 90

Not really, I was going by the years, not the months cause I didn't know
when the months for their birthdays was, but I did know the years.

Jilly





From draco382 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  6 02:31:59 2002
From: draco382 at yahoo.com (draco382)
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 02:31:59 -0000
Subject: Lasting Power of HP Movies?
Message-ID: <admhiv+htlf@eGroups.com>

Hello, I don't usually post (I mostly lurk) but I was just curious 
about something.  Did anyone feel that they wouldn't want to see 
anymore than the first three books made into movies?  I asked a few 
of my friends and I was surprised to hear them most of them say that 
they really didn't even want to see book three made into a movie.  
Do you think "Harry Potter - the Movie Franchise" has lasting power?
It might still be a little too early to say, but I was just 
wondering what everyone thinks about this.  (and no, i 
don't work for Warner Bros :-)

sorry if ths was already discussed at some point...
yeesh...hope i didn't break any posting rules with this one...

~draco382
 






From jillyharris at triton.net  Thu Jun  6 03:16:46 2002
From: jillyharris at triton.net (Jilly Harris)
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 23:16:46 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Lasting Power of HP Movies?
References: <admhiv+htlf@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3CFED41D.14D5FBA8@triton.net>

draco382 wrote:

> Do you think "Harry Potter - the Movie Franchise" has lasting power?

In my opinion it does because so far everything that I've read I can't
wait to see how they do it in the films. I can't wait to see Cedric and
Viktor on screen. I can't wait to see how they do to Yule Ball. I can't
wait to see all the events of PoA as well.

Jilly





From divaclv at aol.com  Thu Jun  6 04:15:17 2002
From: divaclv at aol.com (c_voth312)
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 04:15:17 -0000
Subject: Casting: Lupin
In-Reply-To: <001301c20cfe$3fe5b380$2f98a418@a>
Message-ID: <admnkl+flm8@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "c" <Caeser56 at s...> wrote:
> 
> Chelsey Wrote:
> 
> Hmmm....colin firth as sirius? Interesting possibilities. But to 
tell you the 
> truth, colin seems way to...nice to play sirius. You know what i 
mean? Colin 
> seems really preppy almost and doesnt seem to have that darkness 
sirius 
> radiates. I could be wrong, i've only seen colin firth in Bridget 
Jones's 
> Diary.  But, Sirius needs to be played by someone whose dark and 
mysterious, 
> and i dont think colin is much of either. :) 
> 
> Chelsey
> 

I dunno, I think he could pull it off--he strikes me as being very 
versitle.  Part of the reason why I like the idea is because I think 
whoever plays Sirius should be very expressive but subtle, and CF has 
that quality in spades--the man can convey whole volumes of subtext 
with a single glance--though he's by no means the only actor with the 
talent.
And I will admit, I'm pulling for this largely because I would love 
to see those intense brown eyes peering out from behind a long mane 
of tangled, dark hair...and of course, get him and Alan Rickman onto 
the same screen and the ecstacy would be indescribable ;-)

Vin sez:
> 
> My two favorite picks for Lupin and Sirius, though obviously 
unrealistic, have always been Al Pacino and Robert De Niro. Yes, they 
are not British, but they are also two fo the best actors of all time 
and would easily, in my opinion, be able to accurately portray Brits
(not to mention the fact that both are method actors, taking a lot 
more time to prepare and accurately portray their roles). Also, both 
already have the look and the feel of the characters- my personal 
thoughts being Pacino as Sirius(If you've ever seen him as the devil 
in The Devil's Advocate, you can see the fire with which he can speak 
and would be perfect for the explosive but caring Black), and De Niro 
as Lupin. I know its unrealistic to expect this, but hey, in a dream 
world they'd make perfect picks, I think! Any Thoughts?
> 

I don't know--I will concede that they could quite possibly rise to 
the challenge, but I still have this image of Lupin going, "Hey, 
fuggedaboudit!"

~Christi





From munchiethe6th at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  6 05:21:42 2002
From: munchiethe6th at yahoo.com (munchiethe6th)
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 05:21:42 -0000
Subject: Casting: Lupin
In-Reply-To: <adm652+k8a9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <admrh6+h83v@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "c_voth312" <divaclv at a...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "duranduran88" <bray.262 at o...> wrote:
> > I think it's a pretty solid rumor (ha ha) that Ewan has been 
> > approached to play Lupin.  Which, in my opinion would be 
wonderful 
> as 
> > Lupin and Sirius are my favorite characters and Ewan is one of 
my 
> > favorite actors.
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I love Ewan too, but Lupin?....Lupin is a 
> contemporary of Snape, and to my eyes EG looks /much/ younger than 
> Alan Rickman.  
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I also agree that Ewan McGregor would make a great Lupin.  I 
realized this while watching him as Obi-Wan in Star Wars Episode 
II.  In regards to the objection that he is too young to be a 
contemporary of Snape, I think the problem is that Alan Rickman
(while he did play an excellent Snape) is too old for Snape's 
character.  Rickman is in his mid 50s and Snape is supposed to be in 
his mid 30s.  Ewan McGregor, on the other hand, is just the right 
age to play Lupin.

Emily (P.S. this is my first post to the movie list >8^D )





From mariawolters at hotmail.com  Thu Jun  6 12:07:34 2002
From: mariawolters at hotmail.com (mariawolters)
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 12:07:34 -0000
Subject: Casting: Lupin
In-Reply-To: <admrh6+h83v@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <adnja6+8gap@eGroups.com>


> > Don't get me wrong, I love Ewan too, but Lupin?....Lupin is a 
> > contemporary of Snape, and to my eyes EG looks /much/ younger than 
> > Alan Rickman.  
Don't be fooled - he can be made older, especially because
he's supposed to be worn and harried. 

> I think the problem is that Alan Rickman
> (while he did play an excellent Snape) is too old for Snape's 
> character.  Rickman is in his mid 50s and Snape is supposed to be in 
> his mid 30s.
He's still in excellent shape, though. Whereas Lupin and Sirius - 
well, we are talking about the two major heartthrobs of the 
adult female Potter community here! So Firth and McGregor - what a 
pairing. Especially since Firth would go well with the James they
picked. All slightly scruffy and likeable, but then changed
beyond recognition by the time inbetween.  

> Emily (P.S. this is my first post to the movie list >8^D )

You're welcome ...

Maria




From ITZregina at hanson.net  Thu Jun  6 14:35:46 2002
From: ITZregina at hanson.net (River3_98)
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 14:35:46 -0000
Subject: Lasting Power of HP Movies?
In-Reply-To: <3CFED41D.14D5FBA8@triton.net>
Message-ID: <adns02+78ci@eGroups.com>

> 
> > Do you think "Harry Potter - the Movie Franchise" has lasting 
power?
> 
>

I see the movies as supplements to the books.  As long as they make 
the movies, I'll watch, and buy, them.




From Ali at zymurgy.org  Thu Jun  6 15:05:51 2002
From: Ali at zymurgy.org (alhewison)
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 15:05:51 -0000
Subject: Lasting Power of HP Movies?
In-Reply-To: <admhiv+htlf@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <adntof+hhgh@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "draco382" <draco382 at y...> wrote:
> Hello, I don't usually post (I mostly lurk) but I was just curious 
> about something.  Did anyone feel that they wouldn't want to see 
> anymore than the first three books made into movies?  I asked a few 
> of my friends and I was surprised to hear them most of them say 
that 
> they really didn't even want to see book three made into a movie.  
> Do you think "Harry Potter - the Movie Franchise" has lasting power?
> It might still be a little too early to say,

I confess to being worried about the rest of the series being made 
into films. In my opinion Warner Bros "dummed down" PS/SS and 
definitely orientated it towards the children market. They couldn't 
do that with either POA or GOF without losing the esssence of the 
books, which means they would have to adapt quite a bit. I'm not 
saying they can't, but I'm slightly scared about the end result.

Whilst I have watched PS ad nauseam and *love* it, I don't actually 
think it's a brilliant film, and I would hate a *bad* film to be made 
of any of the HP books. I would certainly be very upset if they 
changed any of the major characters. In short I personally would 
rather they made no film than a bad one. At the moment though, HP has 
been so successful that it still seems to have enough mileage for at 
least a 3rd film.

On another subject, Darkmark.com note that Newsround have again 
repeated that Book 5 is likely to come out at the end of this year.
(June 3) As Newsround is the BBC's children news which has often had 
access to good accurate info on HP, I certainly want to believe this.

Ali




From jprescot at uci.edu  Thu Jun  6 15:37:47 2002
From: jprescot at uci.edu (PrncsPnut)
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 15:37:47 -0000
Subject: Casting: Lupin/Sirius/Cedric
In-Reply-To: <admnkl+flm8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <adnvkb+v1g9@eGroups.com>


> I dunno, I think he could pull it off--he strikes me as being very 
> versitle.  Part of the reason why I like the idea is because I think 
> whoever plays Sirius should be very expressive but subtle, and CF 
has 
> that quality in spades--the man can convey whole volumes of subtext 
> with a single glance--though he's by no means the only actor with 
the 
> talent.
> And I will admit, I'm pulling for this largely because I would love 
> to see those intense brown eyes peering out from behind a long mane 
> of tangled, dark hair...and of course, get him and Alan Rickman onto 
> the same screen and the ecstacy would be indescribable ;-)


MMmmmmm.  I love Colin Firth  (have any of you see "Pride and 
Prejudice" with him?), and I agree with you that he can convey the 
subtext quite well.   I'm thinking that he could really play either 
Sirius or Remus.  Well, I certainly wouldn't complain either way!
I see Remus as being kind and haunting (hey, he's a werewolf, right?) 
and CF can definitely show that.  In fact, I think I've talked myself 
into liking CF as Remus more than EM.  Tho', who doesnt love Ewan??

Glad Im not the casting director.  I'd have to find some kind of a 
role for Christian Bale, too.  He can play young guys -- Cedric, 
anyone?




> 
> I don't know--I will concede that they could quite possibly rise to 
> the challenge, but I still have this image of Lupin going, "Hey, 
> fuggedaboudit!"
> 
> ~Christi




From ickle_ronniekins at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  6 10:45:10 2002
From: ickle_ronniekins at yahoo.com (ickle_ronniekins)
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 10:45:10 -0000
Subject: The Remembrall / Questions on Future Movies
Message-ID: <adnefm+92o3@eGroups.com>

Dean Thomas: Look, Neville's got a remembrall!

Right. He is muggle-born and is perfectly familiar with a remembrall.

Do you think future HP movies will be standalone, i.e. you don't need 
to watch the preceding movies in order to fully understand this one 
(just like the books)?

And how will they introduce Harry's new room in CoS?

(Btw, I think one of you is asking where the CoS Poster can be 
found... I downloaded it from the official site (harrypotter.com).)

-Ron Yu





From jillyharris at triton.net  Thu Jun  6 14:08:01 2002
From: jillyharris at triton.net (Jilly Harris)
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 10:08:01 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Casting: Lupin
References: <admrh6+h83v@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3CFF6CC1.A7571873@triton.net>



munchiethe6th wrote:

> I also agree that Ewan McGregor would make a great Lupin.  I
> realized this while watching him as Obi-Wan in Star Wars Episode
> II.  In regards to the objection that he is too young to be a
> contemporary of Snape, I think the problem is that Alan Rickman
> (while he did play an excellent Snape) is too old for Snape's
> character.  Rickman is in his mid 50s and Snape is supposed to be in
> his mid 30s.  Ewan McGregor, on the other hand, is just the right
> age to play Lupin.

There is also make-up. If they can make Ewan look 10 years older than he
did in Episode 1 that was filmed just 3 years ago, then they can make
him look the appropriate age for Lupin. Also if you think about it, they
could pass off that the reason Snape looks so much older is cause of his
history as a Death Eater. Stress like that could age anyone.

Jilly





From manda at qx.net  Thu Jun  6 17:14:52 2002
From: manda at qx.net (manda at qx.net)
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 10:14:52 -0700
Subject: Casting: Lupin
In-Reply-To: <1023370966.333.96372.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <3CFF361C.20290.4C55F6@localhost>

Emily <munchiethe6th at yahoo.com> wrote:
>  I think the problem is that Alan Rickman
> (while he did play an excellent Snape) is too old for Snape's 
> character.  Rickman is in his mid 50s and Snape is supposed to be in 
> his mid 30s.  Ewan McGregor, on the other hand, is just the right 
> age to play Lupin.

I agree although personally I'd shift Ewan over to Sirius, and cast 
Richard Roxburgh (the Duke in Moulin Rouge, one of the villains in 
M:I 2) as Lupin. Roxburgh is an Aussie, not British, but I think he'd 
make an excellent Lupin. I've been dying to see him in a more serious 
role. And as a Moulin Rouge fan, it would be great to see a reunion 
of sorts. (Ooh.. Jim Broadbent would be a good Ludo Bagman too..)
 
> Emily (P.S. this is my first post to the movie list >8^D )

Mine too. :-)

Amanda




From clare at daymen.com  Thu Jun  6 16:30:50 2002
From: clare at daymen.com (Mina-Clare Moseley)
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:30:50 -0400
Subject: Casting Sirius and Lupin (was Re: Casting: Lupin)
In-Reply-To: <001301c20cfe$3fe5b380$2f98a418@a>
References: <13c.f5dcefd.2a300237@aol.com>
 <001301c20cfe$3fe5b380$2f98a418@a>
Message-ID: <v04210100b9249bd178ec@[64.10.111.69]>

I'm new to this list. I just thought I would jump in with my two 
cents on the casting of Lupin and Sirius. It's a subject I'm quite 
passionate about, since Lupin and Sirius are two of my favourite 
characters.

First of all, I don't think we need to be really bound by Alan 
Rickman's age in casting Lupin and Sirius. First of all, Lupin is 
supposed to look "youthful". Second of all, you can just say that 
Snape didn't age as well as Lupin and Sirius.

My own choices for the roles are:

Sirius: Michael Praed. He played Robin of Loxley on the 80s series 
"Robin of Sherwood". He turned 42 this year, which I think is a good 
age for someone playing Sirius. He's got a nice, intense look which I 
think Sirius should have.
http://www.chaoticworks.com/praed/praed4.jpg This is an older 
picture, which I just think screams Sirius. He has aged nicely since 
this picture. He just needs to dye his hair (as he has gone grey)

Lupin: Ralph Fiennes. He's from "The Avengers", "Schindler's List" 
"The English Patient" and "Quiz Show". In most movies, looks WAY too 
clean for Lupin. But give him a bit of stubble (which is how I always 
pictured Lupin) and muss up his hair and he would be PERFECT.
http://datacore.sciflicks.com/strange_days/images/strange_days_large_0 
8.jpg This picture is EXACTLY how I picture Lupin.

Both actors are Brits too, which I think is neccessary for HP.

Peace,

~Mina





From divaclv at aol.com  Thu Jun  6 16:31:03 2002
From: divaclv at aol.com (c_voth312)
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 16:31:03 -0000
Subject: Casting: Lupin
In-Reply-To: <admrh6+h83v@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ado2o7+vhe8@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "munchiethe6th" <munchiethe6th at y...> wrote:

> I also agree that Ewan McGregor would make a great Lupin.  I 
> realized this while watching him as Obi-Wan in Star Wars Episode 
> II.  In regards to the objection that he is too young to be a 
> contemporary of Snape, I think the problem is that Alan Rickman
> (while he did play an excellent Snape) is too old for Snape's 
> character.  Rickman is in his mid 50s and Snape is supposed to be 
in 
> his mid 30s.  Ewan McGregor, on the other hand, is just the right 
> age to play Lupin.
> 
> Emily (P.S. this is my first post to the movie list >8^D )

Actual age and age range are two very different things.  More often 
than not, actors play characters who are actually several years their 
junior.  Alan Rickman has held up fairly well, and I think he can 
still pass for mid-30's (particularly bitter-and-probably-not-very-
healthy mid-30's, as I would expect from Snape).  Regardless, there's 
still the issue that whoever plays Lupin and Sirius must look roughly 
like they would have been going to school at the same time as Alan 
Rickman.  Makeup can work wonders, but I don't consider it a 
preferred option.

~Christi





From LysaK99 at cs.com  Thu Jun  6 16:32:08 2002
From: LysaK99 at cs.com (LysaK99 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:32:08 EDT
Subject: Ageing too fast? was Re: [HPFGU-Movie] New Director for third film?
Message-ID: <180.8b23c40.2a30e888@cs.com>

In a message dated 6/5/02 3:44:20 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
siskiou at earthlink.net writes:

> Do most people not care if the actors change, as long as
>  there is another movie?
>  
>  Am I just a bit strange with my feelings about that? ;)
>  
  I care!!!  I would be despondent if someone else played harry!  Daniel 
Radcliffe IS Harry, no question.  Replacing any of the trio would be a huge 
mistake, no matter how they are aging.  I don't think I could stand to watch 
someone else try to be Harry.

  Lysa




From LysaK99 at cs.com  Thu Jun  6 16:58:25 2002
From: LysaK99 at cs.com (LysaK99 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:58:25 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Casting: Lupin
Message-ID: <12d.123ed378.2a30eeb1@cs.com>

In a message dated 6/5/02 11:21:34 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
munchiethe6th at yahoo.com writes:

> I also agree that Ewan McGregor would make a great Lupin.  I 
>  realized this while watching him as Obi-Wan in Star Wars Episode 
>  II.  In regards to the objection that he is too young to be a 
>  contemporary of Snape, I think the problem is that Alan Rickman
>  (while he did play an excellent Snape) is too old for Snape's 
>  character.  Rickman is in his mid 50s and Snape is supposed to be in 
>  his mid 30s.  Ewan McGregor, on the other hand, is just the right 
>  age to play Lupin.
>  
  Snape has just aged faster, thats all.  Or maybe being a werewolf keeps one 
young looking.  The fur protects the face from sun damage?  I am voting for 
Ewen.  I think he'd be wonderful.

  Lysa




From Ali at zymurgy.org  Thu Jun  6 18:57:40 2002
From: Ali at zymurgy.org (alhewison)
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 18:57:40 -0000
Subject: British actors for HP? was: Casting Sirius and Lupin 
In-Reply-To: <v04210100b9249bd178ec@[64.10.111.69]>
Message-ID: <adobb4+t70v@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Mina-Clare Moseley <clare at d...> wrote:

<Snip>

> Both actors are Brits too, which I think is neccessary for HP.

Actually, I don't care what nationality the actors are, as long as 
they are good and faithful to their characters which means having 
good British accents. Logically, it is easier for Brits to have the 
correct accents, and if there are suitable actors (which like you I 
think there are) then British actors would obviously then be the 
first choice.

I think when we think, say of Americans playing Brits, the spector of 
Dick Van Dyke and his appalling Cockney accent in Mary Poppins 
springs to mind. BUT, there are obviously many excellent non-British 
actors who could do good British accents - think of the American who 
played Bridget Jones, whose accent was very good.

I seem to remember reading somewhere that JKR stipulated that the 
actors must be British - I don't know whether that's actually true 
though.

Ali




From kechelsen at aol.com  Thu Jun  6 20:53:04 2002
From: kechelsen at aol.com (kathye_c)
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 20:53:04 -0000
Subject: Casting: Lupin
In-Reply-To: <13c.f5dcefd.2a300237@aol.com>
Message-ID: <adoi3g+s84a@eGroups.com>

<<Hmmm....colin firth as sirius? Interesting possibilities. But to 
tell you the truth, colin seems way to...nice to play sirius. You 
know what i mean? Colin seems really preppy almost and doesnt seem to 
have that darkness sirius radiates. I could be wrong, i've only seen 
colin firth in Bridget Jones's Diary.  But, Sirius needs to be played 
by someone whose dark and mysterious, and i dont think colin is much 
of either. :) >>

I agree.  I saw Firth in Valmont and in Pride and Prejudice, and he 
was excellent in both.  But I don't see him as Sirius --as you say, 
he's not dark and mysterious enough.

I've said this before, and I know it's really wishful thinking, but I 
think Scott Cohen would be perfect as Sirius.  He's played dark and 
mysterious characters before (ex-Detective Harry Denby on NYPD Blue) 
and has played a character who was half man/half-wolf (10th 
Kingdom).  Unfortunately Scott's not a Brit but American, which means 
he probably won't be considered.







From Joanne0012 at aol.com  Fri Jun  7 00:41:49 2002
From: Joanne0012 at aol.com (joanne0012)
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 00:41:49 -0000
Subject: British actors for HP? was: Casting Sirius and Lupin
In-Reply-To: <adobb4+t70v@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <adovgd+48p7@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "alhewison" <Ali at z...> wrote:
>
> I seem to remember reading somewhere that JKR stipulated that the 
> actors must be British - I don't know whether that's actually true 
> though.

I read that, too, but a few Americans slipped through in minor roles, including Zoe 
Wanamaker (Madame Hooch), Eleanor Columbus (Susan Bones), and Verne Troyer 
(Griphook).  Uncredited non-Brits included Katharine Nicholson (Pansy Parkinson), 
an Australian, and Kevin Lee Yi (Terrence Boot), another American.




From ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  7 04:03:50 2002
From: ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com (Petra Pan)
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 21:03:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: OotP ETA//Cuaron//Colin Firth
In-Reply-To: <1023218837.375.98517.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20020607040350.52307.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com>

yours truly:
> > <sigh> the above took me to a link that was "Updated 20 March
> > 2002, 13.58" - has anyone seen anything more recent?

Gretchen/mrflynn6 responded:
> On or about May 28, there was an article stating that Scholastic,
> the US publisher of the HP books said that there would be a book
"by
> July 2003".  I think I saw it on CNN.com.  Sorry, but I can't
> remember where I saw that.  I just wish they would HURRY UP!

then adds:
> This is the addy for the story about Chris Columbus not directing
> PoA and at the end it has a blurb from Scholastic stating that they
> would have a book by July 2003. 
>
>http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/29/film.potter.reut/index.h>tml

Yes, this is the full text of the article that I cited in a post last
Wednesday.  I was told that the ETA for OotP given in this report is
a lie and have been looking for any recent news items to feed the
hope that we don't have to wait quite THAT long.  No luck so far...

Nevertheless, much thanks for tracking down the link.  :)
____________________________

kathye_c <kechelsen at aol.com>
> According to Newsweek International, Warner "must" replace Chris 
> Columbus for PoA.  According to the article, he's weary of never 
> seeing his family.  The article included a "shortlist" of
> replacement directors:
> 
> Callie Khouri (director of Divine Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood)
> Kenneth Branagh and Alfonso Cuaron, who directed Y Tu Mama Tambien.

I know I've said this before, but it bears repeating...Cuaron is the
director of "A Little Princess," which I adored.  Just saw Cuaron's
"Y Tu Mama Tambien" yesterday and am blown away by Cuaron's range as
a director - "Y Tu Mama Tambien" is a VERY different movie than "A
Little Princess" in terms of themes and tones, though both deal with
issues involved with the coming of age and both stories are very well
told cinematically.

If you want to "check out" Cuaron, especially if you are not of age
yet <wink>, take a gander at "A Little Princess" and not JUST see "Y
Tu Mama Tambien" if you want to get a more complete idea of his
abilities.
____________________________

Chelsey/MalfoyChicka3121 at aol.com:
> divaclv at aol.com:
> > If you ask me, Firth would make an excellent Sirius Black. :-)
> 
> Hmmm....colin firth as sirius? Interesting possibilities. But to
> tell you the 
> truth, colin seems way to...nice to play sirius. You know what i
> mean? Colin 
> seems really preppy almost and doesnt seem to have that darkness
> sirius 
> radiates. I could be wrong, i've only seen colin firth in Bridget
> Jones's 
> Diary.  But, Sirius needs to be played by someone whose dark and
> mysterious, 
> and i dont think colin is much of either. :)

Now, now, let's not typecast the guy. :) Colin Firth's body of work
isn't the most diverse...but that seems to be due to the fact that
he's got YEARS to go before moving from playing leading man to
playing character parts and not because he's a poor actor.

I haven't seen the current "Importance of Being Earnest" yet but
besides "Bridget Jones's Diary," he's probably most famous for
playing Mr. Darcy in "Pride and Prejudice," a fabulous mini-series
that you should be able to find at libraries or video stores; if you
liked "Bridget Jones," you will want to check out its inspiration.  
Before "P&P," he played the title character in "Valmont," also worth
renting.  Both of those characters have varying shades of darkness
and mystery.

Petra
a
n  :)


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From bray.262 at osu.edu  Fri Jun  7 09:18:09 2002
From: bray.262 at osu.edu (Rachel Bray)
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 09:18:09 +0000 (EST5EDT)
Subject: Casting: Ludo
Message-ID: <2EA537055C@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>

>(Ooh.. Jim Broadbent would be a good Ludo Bagman too..)

Amanda!  Good call!!  I can definitely see that!  All 
bouncy-bouncy and bigger than life like Harold in Moulin!
Wow.....he'd make a great Ludo.
"Everything's going so well!"
(Yes, I'm another big fan of Moulin Rouge)


Rachel Bray
The Ohio State University
Fees, Deposits and Disbursements

LORD OF THE SNITCH
Three men form the chaser-squad under the sky 
Seven are the teammates on their brooms of wood
Two are Bludger balls charmed to fly
One is the dork Ref all on his own
On the field of Quidditch where the Quaffles lie.
One Snitch flits over all, one grab will win it
One game may take three months, or may take but a minute
On the field of Quidditch where the Quaffles lie.

http://home.att.net/~coriolan/hpfilks.htm



From ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk  Fri Jun  7 14:24:23 2002
From: ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin Hooper)
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 15:24:23 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: British actors for HP? was: Casting
  Sirius and Lupin
In-Reply-To: <adovgd+48p7@eGroups.com>
References: <adobb4+t70v@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020607152347.009fe430@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>

At 01:41 07/06/02, you wrote:
>I read that, too, but a few Americans slipped through in minor roles, 
>including Zoe
>Wanamaker (Madame Hooch), Eleanor Columbus (Susan Bones), and Verne Troyer
>(Griphook).  Uncredited non-Brits included Katharine Nicholson (Pansy 
>Parkinson),
>an Australian, and Kevin Lee Yi (Terrence Boot), another American.

Joanne as far as I know Zoe Wanamaker is English... ;)  Her father was 
another famous english actor whose name I forget right at this moment!


Martin J Hooper
http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602


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From ickle_ronniekins at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  7 14:13:48 2002
From: ickle_ronniekins at yahoo.com (ickle_ronniekins)
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 14:13:48 -0000
Subject: Non-Brits in HP4 (was: British actors for HP?)
In-Reply-To: <adovgd+48p7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <adqf2s+tnmp@eGroups.com>

Just a thought -- if ever they are making a fourth movie, I suppose 
it would be really necessary to include non-British actors 
(Durmstrang, Beauxbatons, Quidditch World Cup crowd...).

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "joanne0012" <Joanne0012 at a...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "alhewison" <Ali at z...> wrote:
> >
> > I seem to remember reading somewhere that JKR stipulated that the 
> > actors must be British - I don't know whether that's actually 
true 
> > though.
> 
> I read that, too, but a few Americans slipped through in minor 
roles, including Zoe 
> Wanamaker (Madame Hooch), Eleanor Columbus (Susan Bones), and Verne 
Troyer 
> (Griphook).  Uncredited non-Brits included Katharine Nicholson 
(Pansy Parkinson), 
> an Australian, and Kevin Lee Yi (Terrence Boot), another American.





From Joanne0012 at aol.com  Fri Jun  7 17:29:21 2002
From: Joanne0012 at aol.com (joanne0012)
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 17:29:21 -0000
Subject: British actors for HP? was: Casting Sirius and Lupin
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020607152347.009fe430@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <adqqhh+68pl@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Martin Hooper <ch001d4564 at b...> wrote:
> 
> Joanne as far as I know Zoe Wanamaker is English... ;)  Her father was 
> another famous english actor whose name I forget right at this moment!
> 

Zoe Wanamaker was born in 1949 in New York City to parents who were 
American citizens, and she is still a US citizen.  Her father was Sam Wanamaker, 
an actor and director who was born in Chicago, Illinois, into the famous 
department-store family. Sam Wanamaker relocated to England in the 1950s as 
a result of the US Communist witch-hunt (!) and became very involved in 
Shakespearean theater as well as directing and acting in films.  He was one of 
the key forces behind the construction of the New Globe Theater.




From ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk  Fri Jun  7 17:35:42 2002
From: ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin Hooper)
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 18:35:42 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: British actors for HP? was: Casting
  Sirius and Lupin
In-Reply-To: <adqqhh+68pl@eGroups.com>
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020607152347.009fe430@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020607183524.00a344e0@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>

At 18:29 07/06/02, you wrote:
>Zoe Wanamaker was born in 1949 in New York City to parents who were
>American citizens, and she is still a US citizen.  Her father was Sam 
>Wanamaker,
>an actor and director who was born in Chicago, Illinois, into the famous
>department-store family. Sam Wanamaker relocated to England in the 1950s as
>a result of the US Communist witch-hunt (!) and became very involved in
>Shakespearean theater as well as directing and acting in films.  He was 
>one of
>the key forces behind the construction of the New Globe Theater.

Ahh well you learn summat new every day!!  That I didn't know....


Martin J Hooper
http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602


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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Fri Jun  7 18:47:07 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 19:47:07 +0100
Subject: Casting: Ludo - Well I never
References: <2EA537055C@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <000301c20e56$015acf20$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>

>(Ooh.. Jim Broadbent would be a good Ludo Bagman too..)

Amanda!  Good call!!  I can definitely see that!  All bouncy-bouncy and bigger than life like Harold in Moulin! Wow.....he'd make a great Ludo."Everything's going so well!" (Yes, I'm another big fan of Moulin Rouge)

Rachel Bray
The Ohio State University

Not someone I would have thought of - but an inspired idea!  Broadbent is a fine comedian with a true actor's sense of timing and pathos - he would bound about but could conjure up that * hunted look * when being chased by Goblins or Fred and George Weasley.

Incidentally, I had not thought of Ewan McGregor as Remus Lupin but seem to remember that he shot to fame (if that's the right word...) as a drug addict in a film who's name I have forgotten (but someone will remember...)  Anyone who can play that kind of character plus a Star Wars hero (or whatever I haven't seen the film yet....) has got to have the range.

Finally, before seeing the film I would have said nah! the kids are probably replaceable.  Now - no way.  Could there ever be another Ron Weasley that Rupert Grint?

Felicia
Who promises not to mention Silent Bob and cause an earthquake in Ohio * G * !!!!


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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Fri Jun  7 19:23:45 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 20:23:45 +0100
Subject: The Remembrall / Questions on Future Movies
References: <adnefm+92o3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00c301c20e58$d784a2e0$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>

(Btw, I think one of you is asking where the CoS Poster can be 
found... I downloaded it from the official site (harrypotter.com).)

-Ron Yu

In the interests of research I tried to find the Cos poster - but couldn't.  Could you point me in the right direction ickleronniekins

Felicia


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From pennylin at swbell.net  Fri Jun  7 19:37:23 2002
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny Linsenmayer)
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 14:37:23 -0500
Subject: ADMIN: Yet *Another* Reminder about Posting Rules
Message-ID: <032101c20e5a$beeb91b0$4f5ffea9@cq5hs01>

Hi --

As you all, message volume on this list is particularly high these last few
weeks.

1.  Please remember to avoid one-liners.   I'm going to start handing out
howlers (and if howlers don't work, moderated status) to all members who
can't abide by this rule.

2.  Please consider whether your request for a direct link or technical
assistance is better directed in an offlist personal email to one individual
rather than being sent to the entire list.  In *most* cases, requests of
this nature should be sent offlist.

Again, please remember that this is a HP4GU list and is subject to all HP4GU
posting rules.  You are expected to be familiar with the Humungous BigFile.
It can be found here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/hbfile.html

Thanks,

Penny
Magical Moderator Team





From draco382 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  7 21:23:36 2002
From: draco382 at yahoo.com (draco382)
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 21:23:36 -0000
Subject: Casting: Lupin (was Ludo - Well I never)
In-Reply-To: <000301c20e56$015acf20$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <adr88o+ilv7@eGroups.com>

Felicia wrote:
> Incidentally, I had not thought of Ewan McGregor as Remus Lupin 
but seem to remember that he shot to fame (if that's the right 
word...) as a drug addict in a film who's name I have forgotten (but 
someone will remember...)  Anyone who can play that kind of 
character plus a Star Wars hero (or whatever I haven't seen the film 
yet....) has got to have the range.
> 


Trainspotting!!  BTW, did anyone see Ewan McGregor at the MTV movie 
awards last night?  I hadn't really thought of him as "Lupin" 
material, but after getting a good look at him, he really would fit 
the part!!  Besides the looks, you're right, he does have a lot of 
range...I'm sure he could go from Moulin Rouge to Star Wars to HP 
with no trouble.

~draco382





From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Sat Jun  8 09:53:57 2002
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophia mclaughlin)
Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 09:53:57 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Digest Number 227
Message-ID: <F91tmCjyebb0veZmilm000167a2@hotmail.com>

Dear fellow potterites--
This is my first time posting on this list, so bear with me. Have any of you 
heard a rumour that Richard Harris is content with doing the first two 
movies? (Said something that could be interpreted in this fashion in a blurb 
on countingdown.com, if memory serves me right.)If this is so, I've got a 
terrific back-up for him. Although he was alright as Dumbledore, I still 
thought he portrayed him as little more tired an worn than I should have 
liked. So, if there is to be a successor: Can you see Derek Jacobi (who 
reportedly loves the books and would love to be in the movies, according to 
another blurb on countdown.com ) taking on the part? He'd have just the 
rigth mix of cooky, weird, wise and laisse-faire fatherly. He would make a 
more youthful Dumbledore with just the bright blue, twinkling eyes I 
associate with the character. The thought just makes me shiver with delight. 
  Furthermore, if there is to be a Potter#4, how about Anthony Hopkins for 
Mad-Eye Moody? No elaboration necessary. (What do you think? Any likelihood 
of that happening, or am I just living in never-never land?)

Sophia

_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com




From LysaK99 at cs.com  Sat Jun  8 17:10:16 2002
From: LysaK99 at cs.com (LysaK99 at cs.com)
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 13:10:16 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Digest Number 227
Message-ID: <16d.ec6dfaa.2a339478@cs.com>

In a message dated 6/8/02 3:54:08 AM Mountain Daylight Time, 
sophiamcl at hotmail.com writes:

>  Furthermore, if there is to be a Potter#4, how about Anthony Hopkins for 
>  Mad-Eye Moody? No elaboration necessary. (What do you think? Any 
likelihood 
>  of that happening, or am I just living in never-never land?)
>  
>  Sophia
>  
  Hopkins would be PERFECT as Moody!  I should have thought of him as he's 
one of my favorites!  I think he's brilliant and would be absolutely 
wonderful as Moody!
  Lysa




From kechelsen at aol.com  Sat Jun  8 21:26:23 2002
From: kechelsen at aol.com (kathye_c)
Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 21:26:23 -0000
Subject: Digest Number 227
In-Reply-To: <F91tmCjyebb0veZmilm000167a2@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <adtspv+jks0@eGroups.com>

<<Furthermore, if there is to be a Potter#4, how about Anthony 
Hopkins for Mad-Eye Moody? No elaboration necessary. (What do you 
think? Any likelihood of that happening, or am I just living in never-
never land?)>>


I have to agree with you on this.  I think Sir Anthony would be 
PERFECT as Moody.  I hadn't thought too much about some of the minor 
characters, but the minute I read your comment, I could picture him 
in the role very clearly.  

Kathy


 _________________________________________________________________





From fawkes at wizardingwireless.net  Sun Jun  9 19:03:53 2002
From: fawkes at wizardingwireless.net (Dave Haber)
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 12:03:53 -0700
Subject: Stuck In Spanish
Message-ID: <015b01c20fe8$68ed32c0$6401a8c0@gryffindor>

To everyone in the US: Is anyone else stuck in Spanish?

I own both the Standard and Widescreen US DVDs.  Since I used the DVD menu to switch to Spanish on each one, now, whenever I put the DVD in and play it, it defaults to Spanish, no matter how many times I use the DVD menu to switch it back to English.

Is anyone else having this problem?

Does anyone know how to clear the memory on a low-end Panasonic DVD player?  It's not in the manual...

(As the snake says it slithers past Harry)

Thankssss!

(Gracias in the Spanish soundtrack)  :-)

    -Dave

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Harry Potter for Programmers - www.wizardingwireless.net
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From btk6y at virginia.edu  Mon Jun 10 23:03:55 2002
From: btk6y at virginia.edu (btk6y)
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:03:55 -0000
Subject: CoS trailer
Message-ID: <ae3b8r+9dno@eGroups.com>

Anyone know what time it will be available? And also what time zone?






From ShelaghC at aol.com  Tue Jun 11 01:10:03 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 01:10:03 -0000
Subject: OT - Help for a friend of mine
Message-ID: <ae3ilb+ped5@eGroups.com>

My apologies for the off-topic posting, but I'm sure once you've read 
the following you'll understand the reason.

Thanks

A lovely lady and friend of mine from the Lord of the Rings Fanclub 
membership boards is asking for some simple but very important help. 
I didn't want to change the wording of her posting, but obviously 
those here don't know Marsha or her condition - that said:

**********************************************************

You may know that I have an incurable disease called Pulmonary 
Hypertension.  For those who didn't know this, I'll give you a brief 
explanation if you'll bear with me.  Pulmonary Hypertension (PH) is a 
rare lung disease that causes the arteries that carry oxygenated 
blood from the heart to the lungs to constrict, reducing the oxygen 
flow to the lungs.   This causes the heart to work harder trying to 
deliver oxygenated blood to the lungs.   The disease is progressive, 
and over time the arteries can constrict further, eventually leading 
to lung and heart failure.  There are a few categories of Pulmonary 
Hypertension.  The one I have is Primary Pulmonary Hypertension 
(PPH), and it is the most difficult to treat.  Fortunately for me, my 
disease was detected in early stages and is being medically managed 
at the present time, though the future is unknown.   Most people with 
this disease are not so fortunate, since early detection is  
difficult.  Historically, PPH has a very poor prognosis, but, with 
early detection and treatment the prognosis is improving.  There is
presently a congressional bill, introduced by Congressman Kevin Brady 
of Texas, that would provide $25 Million per year to fund medical 
research for Pulmonary Hypertension in all forms, including  PPH.

I am part of a support group for people with PPH.  We have banded 
together to actively lobby for the passage of this potentially life 
saving bill.  The bill, H.R. 1297, was introduced over a year ago, 
and has not even begun to move through congress.  During the past 
year, some members of our group have died, and sadly we've added many 
newly diagnosed members.  Since early detection can prolong these 
lives until a cure can be discovered, H.R. 1297 could save the lives 
of some of my friends who have PPH.  As our first action, we have 
drafted an online thank you letter to Representative Kevin Brady for 
his efforts on behalf of people with this deadly disease.  Soon we
will be printing this letter and the signatures it accumulates for 
hand delivery to Representative Brady.  If you would take the time to 
click on this link and sign our letter, we would all be very grateful 
to you.  If you know people who might be willing to support medical 
research for Pulmonary Hypertension, please consider forwarding this 
message to them.

You can find the letter here:
http://www.petitiononline.com/HR1297/petition.html

Thank you,
Marsha O'Neill
Lonevoice






From hunao01 at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 11 01:33:14 2002
From: hunao01 at yahoo.com (hunao01)
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 01:33:14 -0000
Subject: CoS trailer
In-Reply-To: <ae3b8r+9dno@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ae3k0q+q3bt@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "btk6y" <btk6y at v...> wrote:
> Anyone know what time it will be available? And also what time zone?

a 30-second "teaser" is now available at the Warner site. Here is the 
link:
http://harrypotter.warnerbros.com/web/dailyprophet/article.jsp?
id=Teaser_Trailer
Overall it looks great but just too short. According to the site, the 
full-length trailer will be shown before "Scooby-Doo" this Friday.





From bray.262 at osu.edu  Tue Jun 11 13:07:03 2002
From: bray.262 at osu.edu (duranduran88)
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:07:03 -0000
Subject: The trailer
Message-ID: <ae4sln+t4d8@eGroups.com>

OK, it's only 34 seconds long but I love the car in front of the 
train!  I know it's not in the book but it's a hilarious addition.

And what's with the first scene with Harry and Hedwig looking over a 
VERY beautiful mountain/island scene?  Nice touch....but confused as 
to what it could be. 



Rachel Bray




From mariawolters at hotmail.com  Tue Jun 11 14:30:22 2002
From: mariawolters at hotmail.com (mariawolters)
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:30:22 -0000
Subject: The trailer
In-Reply-To: <ae4sln+t4d8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ae51hu+am48@eGroups.com>


> And what's with the first scene with Harry and Hedwig looking over a 
> VERY beautiful mountain/island scene?  Nice touch....but confused as 
> to what it could be. 

The Hogwarts environments? Or The Burrow? Probably the latter - 
if it's functioning as some sort of sanctuary, it would make
much sense.

Anybody else on this list looking forward to Mr Weasley?
The actor's brilliant, but I've got to say that, 
as a huge fan of the Fast Show ...

Maria




From chiflipgrl at aol.com  Tue Jun 11 18:34:22 2002
From: chiflipgrl at aol.com (chiflipgrl at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:34:22 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The trailer
Message-ID: <137.f6f0e40.2a379cae@aol.com>

I've heard that the full-length trailer will be available today online...
Is that true? I've yet to hear about anyone actually seeing it so far...

I WANNA SEE IT! The teaser was too short!!!

*~*~*~* Janice *~*~*~*
-who thinks Rupert's and Daniel's post-pubescent voices are ADORABLE!!!


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From Ali at zymurgy.org  Tue Jun 11 19:36:40 2002
From: Ali at zymurgy.org (alhewison)
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 19:36:40 -0000
Subject: CoS trailer
In-Reply-To: <ae3k0q+q3bt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ae5jg8+7vid@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "hunao01" <hunao01 at y...> wrote:

> a 30-second "teaser" is now available at the Warner site. Here is 
the 
> link:
> http://harrypotter.warnerbros.com/web/dailyprophet/article.jsp?
> id=Teaser_Trailer
> Overall it looks great but just too short. According to the site, 
the 
> full-length trailer will be shown before "Scooby-Doo" this Friday.

has anyone noticed that Harry seems to have his trunk in his bedroom -
 you can see what looks like a trunk next to his bed. Maybe the film 
Harry has a better summer than the book one!

Ali




From ITZregina at hanson.net  Tue Jun 11 20:00:49 2002
From: ITZregina at hanson.net (River3_98)
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 20:00:49 -0000
Subject: CoS trailer
In-Reply-To: <ae5jg8+7vid@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ae5kth+onbc@eGroups.com>

> has anyone noticed that Harry seems to have his trunk in his 
bedroom -
>  you can see what looks like a trunk next to his bed. >


Hmmmm...I wonder if that means the twins will not be in 
the "rescue"?  I've heard rumors to that effect.

Gina




From caroline.bulcke at pandora.be  Sun Jun  9 09:57:10 2002
From: caroline.bulcke at pandora.be (Caroline Bulcke)
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 11:57:10 +0200
Subject: mad-eye
References: <adtspv+jks0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <006301c20fac$5764a380$0989e0d5@pandora.be>

Oh yes! I immediately thought of his part in Legends of the Fall, at the end when he had that stroke....that's so mad-eye moody. :-))

caroline


----- Original Message ----- 
From: kathye_c 
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 11:26 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Digest Number 227


<<Furthermore, if there is to be a Potter#4, how about Anthony 
Hopkins for Mad-Eye Moody? No elaboration necessary. (What do you 
think? Any likelihood of that happening, or am I just living in never-
never land?)>>


I have to agree with you on this.  I think Sir Anthony would be 
PERFECT as Moody.  I hadn't thought too much about some of the minor 
characters, but the minute I read your comment, I could picture him 
in the role very clearly.  

Kathy


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From nobradors at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 10 14:25:17 2002
From: nobradors at hotmail.com (nuriaobradors)
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 14:25:17 -0000
Subject: British actors for HP? was: Casting Sirius and Lupin
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020607183524.00a344e0@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <ae2csd+842i@eGroups.com>

Oh, please, let's not get too picky either... I assume "british 
actors" means not "born exclusively in Great Britain" but "who speak 
british at native level and have a british attitude". Which of course 
Zoe Wannamaker has, if she's lived in UK since the 50's!

Nuri 

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Martin Hooper <ch001d4564 at b...> wrote:
> At 18:29 07/06/02, you wrote:
> >Zoe Wanamaker was born in 1949 in New York City to parents who were
> >American citizens, and she is still a US citizen.  Her father was 
Sam 
> >Wanamaker,
> >an actor and director who was born in Chicago, Illinois, into the 
famous
> >department-store family. Sam Wanamaker relocated to England in the 
1950s as
> >a result of the US Communist witch-hunt (!) and became very 
involved in
> >Shakespearean theater as well as directing and acting in films.  
He was 
> >one of
> >the key forces behind the construction of the New Globe Theater.
> 
> Ahh well you learn summat new every day!!  That I didn't know....
> 
> 
> Martin J Hooper
> http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602
> 
> 
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From divaclv at aol.com  Tue Jun 11 22:35:12 2002
From: divaclv at aol.com (c_voth312)
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:35:12 -0000
Subject: CoS trailer
In-Reply-To: <ae5kth+onbc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ae5tv0+8k67@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "River3_98" <ITZregina at h...> wrote:
> > has anyone noticed that Harry seems to have his trunk in his 
> bedroom -
> >  you can see what looks like a trunk next to his bed. >
> 
> 
> Hmmmm...I wonder if that means the twins will not be in 
> the "rescue"?  I've heard rumors to that effect.
> 
> Gina

GAAAAAH!!! I hope not.  They've had little enough screen time as it 
is...
Another possibility: we only see the bedroom before the Dursley's 
decide to put Harry in solitary, right?  Perhaps Vernon locks up the 
trunk after the whole business with the ruined dinner party goes 
down...

~Christi





From manda at qx.net  Wed Jun 12 02:10:09 2002
From: manda at qx.net (Amanda Pressnell)
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 19:10:09 -0700
Subject: Teaser Trailer on E! News Live
Message-ID: <3D064B11.28655.7BB33@localhost>

They just showed the teaser trailer on "E! News Live." It'll be repeated 
tomorrow (Wednesday) morning at 7am and 7:30am EDT. It's at the very end 
of the show. 

Amanda




From btk6y at virginia.edu  Wed Jun 12 02:18:17 2002
From: btk6y at virginia.edu (btk6y)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 02:18:17 -0000
Subject: Teaser Trailer on E! News Live
In-Reply-To: <3D064B11.28655.7BB33@localhost>
Message-ID: <ae6b19+102a@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Amanda Pressnell" <manda at q...> wrote:
> They just showed the teaser trailer on "E! News Live." It'll be 
repeated 
> tomorrow (Wednesday) morning at 7am and 7:30am EDT. It's at the 
very end 
> of the show. 
> 
> Amanda

Was it the entire trailer or only the 30 sec we saw on the website?  

Thanks




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Wed Jun 12 07:39:11 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 08:39:11 +0100
Subject: British actors for HP
References: <ae2csd+842i@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <004a01c211e4$3e4f5f40$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>

I think, putting it bluntly, they want actors with English accents - not faux English accents that keep slipping, perhaps that and the conviction that most English actors are stage based - not all American actors give that impression.

Felicia
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: nuriaobradors 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 3:25 PM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: British actors for HP? was: Casting Sirius and Lupin


  Oh, please, let's not get too picky either... I assume "british 
  actors" means not "born exclusively in Great Britain" but "who speak 
  british at native level and have a british attitude". Which of course 
  Zoe Wannamaker has, if she's lived in UK since the 50's!

  Nuri 

  --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Martin Hooper <ch001d4564 at b...> wrote:
  > At 18:29 07/06/02, you wrote:
  > >Zoe Wanamaker was born in 1949 in New York City to parents who were
  > >American citizens, and she is still a US citizen.  Her father was 
  Sam 
  > >Wanamaker,
  > >an actor and director who was born in Chicago, Illinois, into the 
  famous
  > >department-store family. Sam Wanamaker relocated to England in the 
  1950s as
  > >a result of the US Communist witch-hunt (!) and became very 
  involved in
  > >Shakespearean theater as well as directing and acting in films.  
  He was 
  > >one of
  > >the key forces behind the construction of the New Globe Theater.
  > 
  > Ahh well you learn summat new every day!!  That I didn't know....
  > 
  > 
  > Martin J Hooper
  > http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
  > AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602
  > 
  > 
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From Joanne0012 at aol.com  Wed Jun 12 11:51:47 2002
From: Joanne0012 at aol.com (joanne0012)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:51:47 -0000
Subject: British actors for HP? was: Casting Sirius and Lupin
In-Reply-To: <ae2csd+842i@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ae7ckj+s9dn@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "nuriaobradors" <nobradors at h...> wrote:
> Oh, please, let's not get too picky either... I assume "british 
> actors" means not "born exclusively in Great Britain" but "who speak 
> british at native level and have a british attitude". Which of course 
> Zoe Wannamaker has, if she's lived in UK since the 50's!

Certainly nobody's questioning Ms. Wanamaker's accent, talent, or credentials.  I 
think she did a splendid job as Madame Hooch.  But as for British attitude, that 
I'm not so certain about.  After all, she was the one who complained most 
vociferously about the salaries that the actors were contracted at, and indeed 
she wasn't contracted for the second film, which indicates that she and the 
producers were unable to settle those differences.  Or that they just didn't want 
her back because of her big mouth; if she thought the pay was inadequate, why 
did she accept the contract offer in the first place?




From mrflynn6 at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 12 14:33:49 2002
From: mrflynn6 at yahoo.com (mrflynn6)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 14:33:49 -0000
Subject: The trailer
In-Reply-To: <ae4sln+t4d8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ae7m4d+rnk8@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "duranduran88" <bray.262 at o...> wrote:
> OK, it's only 34 seconds long but I love the car in front of the 
> train!  I know it's not in the book but it's a hilarious addition.
> 
> And what's with the first scene with Harry and Hedwig looking over 
a 
> VERY beautiful mountain/island scene?  Nice touch....but confused 
as 
> to what it could be. 
> 
> 
> 
> Rachel Bray


I thought the same thing.  I looked at the trailer for a second time 
and thought maybe he was overlooking the lake at Hogwarts?

Gretchen




From eleri at aracnet.com  Wed Jun 12 17:41:55 2002
From: eleri at aracnet.com (CB)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:41:55 -0700
Subject: Kudos for the DVD
In-Reply-To: <1023889755.375.87864.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020612103858.00b97eb0@mail.aracnet.com>

My kidlets are in watching the DVD as we speak (P&S, my TV's too small to 
make widescreen effective), and they're watching it in Spanish. I'm really 
impressed with how they matched the Spanish speakers with the character. 
Hagrid has a gruff, low voice, Quirrill is kinda high pitched and stuttery. 
They didn't just grab a few male and female actors and say "Here, read 
these lines". You can almost imagine that it was filmed in Spanish. This is 
a nice change from other dubbed movies I've seen.

Charlene




From jprescot at uci.edu  Wed Jun 12 20:13:34 2002
From: jprescot at uci.edu (PrncsPnut)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 20:13:34 -0000
Subject: Dvd complaint
Message-ID: <ae8a1e+u7tn@eGroups.com>

So, I've finally come up with a complaint about the DVD.
(We won't go into the trials of getting to the deleted scenes.  hehe)

I was really looking forward to hearing Harry & Company in french.  
However, the DVD comes only in English/Spanish in N. America.  What's 
up with that?!  Don't most DVD's come in at least the two most 
frequently used languages: French and English?

What about the Canadian DVD?  It must come in french, but what DVD 
region is Canada??  Sorry if this subject has already been touched on 
before but I can't recall.

Does the Philosopher's Stone DVD have French?  I need to get one of 
those plays-all-regions DVD players, I think. :o)   Or have mine 
changed to accept all regions -- how much does that cost? anyone know?

Anyhow, thanks for listening to me babble!
Cheers,
Jenny




From Caeser56 at si.rr.com  Wed Jun 12 20:51:31 2002
From: Caeser56 at si.rr.com (c)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 16:51:31 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Dvd complaint
References: <ae8a1e+u7tn@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001a01c21252$ee46f0c0$2f98a418@a>

Jenny Wrote:-----------------
I was really looking forward to hearing Harry & Company in french.  
However, the DVD comes only in English/Spanish in N. America.  What's 
up with that?!  Don't most DVD's come in at least the two most 
frequently used languages: French and English?

What about the Canadian DVD?  It must come in french, but what DVD 
region is Canada??  Sorry if this subject has already been touched on 
before but I can't recall.
------------------------------

    Just to answer what MAY be the reasoning behind not including french:
1- Remember, the movies pretty dang long, and audio takes up a lot of space on dvd's, so maybe they only had space for 2 audio tracks(don't quote me on this, but it's a possibility), and leads me to this point
2- As far as french being the second most used language, I can't find any reference for that being true, but it certainly isn't within the United States- rather, the two most used languages within the US are English, and you guessed it, Spanish. with that in mind, marketing to the maximum amount of people would require including the maximum amount of versatility, hence spanish. As far as Canadian DVDs go, they are in fact region 1, so you could get one of those and play it in any normal dvd- this being set it stone. I work in a retail store that takes back pre-owned dvd's and yesterday i got a canadian dvd in, and it is in fact region 1(which is why i was allowed to take it back). 

Hope this helps you somewhat!

-Vin


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From richasi at azlance.com  Wed Jun 12 20:58:16 2002
From: richasi at azlance.com (Richasi)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 16:58:16 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Dvd complaint
In-Reply-To: <ae8a1e+u7tn@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000701c21253$e04fb1e0$e6d51b18@cfl.rr.com>


Jenny Said:
> What about the Canadian DVD?  It must come in french, but what DVD
> region is Canada??  Sorry if this subject has already been touched on
> before but I can't recall.

Canada is also Region 01. So if you order the DVD from a Canadian
store, you should be able to get a English/French version if they
were released as such. I'm thinking of doing it myself just to
hear the different scenes :)

Ricky.






From siskiou at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 12 20:58:04 2002
From: siskiou at earthlink.net (Susanne)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:58:04 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Dvd complaint
In-Reply-To: <ae8a1e+u7tn@eGroups.com>
References: <ae8a1e+u7tn@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <38137317615.20020612135804@earthlink.net>



Hi,

Wednesday, June 12, 2002, 1:13:34 PM, jprescot at uci.edu wrote:

> I was really looking forward to hearing Harry & Company in french.  
> However, the DVD comes only in English/Spanish in N. America.  What's 
> up with that?!  Don't most DVD's come in at least the two most 
> frequently used languages: French and English?

I agree!

I was hoping it would have German as a choice, too.

I'm from Germany and our daughter is bilingual, so it would
have been nice to use this as an educational thing, too.

She doesn't get to hear enough German as it is.

-- 
Best regards,
 Susanne                           mailto:siskiou at earthlink.net




From manda at qx.net  Wed Jun 12 21:42:04 2002
From: manda at qx.net (Amanda Pressnell)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 14:42:04 -0700
Subject: Teaser Trailer on E! News Live
In-Reply-To: <1023889755.375.87864.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <3D075DBC.29698.FF50E@localhost>

btk6y wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Amanda Pressnell" <manda at q...> wrote:
> > They just showed the teaser trailer on "E! News Live." It'll be 
> repeated 
> > tomorrow (Wednesday) morning at 7am and 7:30am EDT. It's at the 
> very end 
> > of the show. 
> > 
> > Amanda
> 
> Was it the entire trailer or only the 30 sec we saw on the website?  

It was just the 30 sec 'teaser' one, the same that was on the website. Sorry for the late reply, 
but I get the digest version of the list.

I'm afraid that Dobby looks even worse on a bigger screen than he did on the 56k stream at the 
website. I don't know what they were thinking there. He's like a cross between an elderly man 
and a really ugly Yoda. A friend said he looks like something out of "Amistad." Maybe that's 
how it was intended, to better lead into with Hermione's house-elf beliefs in GoF.

Amanda




From jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu  Wed Jun 12 23:16:00 2002
From: jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu (PrncsPnut)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 23:16:00 -0000
Subject: Dobby (was Re: Teaser Trailer on E! News Live)
In-Reply-To: <3D075DBC.29698.FF50E@localhost>
Message-ID: <ae8kng+97jd@eGroups.com>

I'm glad Im not the only one confused with the rendering of Dobby the 
Huose-Elf on the big screen.
I must say, I'm a bit shocked at the appearance of Dobby.  He looks 
nothing like I imagined.  In fact, maybe the books never say, but I 
thought he was hairy, much like an upright-Opossom with actual legs.  
Or a cross between the face of a pug-dog with a pencil-like nose and 
the body of a rat. I dunno.   I'm still a bit stumped with the CoS 
Dobby... eek.
We should have a Dobby Drawing competition to see what we all thought 
he looked like!  (I know I've got crayons around here somewhere....)

Cheers,
Jenny


> I'm afraid that Dobby looks even worse on a bigger screen than he 
did on the 56k stream at the 
> website. I don't know what they were thinking there. He's like a 
cross between an elderly man 
> and a really ugly Yoda. A friend said he looks like something out
of 
"Amistad." Maybe that's 
> how it was intended, to better lead into with Hermione's house-elf 
beliefs in GoF.
> 
> Amanda




From fsuass at aol.com  Thu Jun 13 01:31:22 2002
From: fsuass at aol.com (fsuass at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 21:31:22 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Dobby
Message-ID: <138.fab8b61.2a394fea@aol.com>

In a message dated 6/12/02 7:00:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, manda at qx.net 
writes:


> I'm afraid that Dobby looks even worse on a bigger screen than he did on the 
> 56k stream at the 
> website.

I know someone has already pointed this out previously on this list, but if 
you look at the Chapter Two of Chamber of Secrets, you'll see that the CGI 
rendering of Dobby is actually very close to Mary Granpre's illustration. 
What more is it that people are looking for?

Jen, 
Who rarely posts but is wondering what all the fuss is about


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From hyzenthlay at jps.net  Thu Jun 13 04:03:46 2002
From: hyzenthlay at jps.net (Misty)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 21:03:46 -0700
Subject: CoS trailer
References: <1023889755.375.87864.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <3D0819A2.773C9EF8@jps.net>

They have been playing the teaser trailer not only on E!, but on my
local news broadcasts as well (I live and California), saying that the
full trailer will be "in theaters on Friday".

Personally, my first impression of the snowy landscape scene was
possibly the frozen lake at Hogwarts (the same we never got to see in
the 1st film) but I could be wrong. btw, does anyone know if Peeves
and/or the large creatures in the lake will make it into this one?

Misty

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From divaclv at aol.com  Thu Jun 13 04:08:06 2002
From: divaclv at aol.com (c_voth312)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 04:08:06 -0000
Subject: Dobby (was Re: Teaser Trailer on E! News Live)
In-Reply-To: <ae8kng+97jd@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ae95r6+6afl@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "PrncsPnut" <jprescot at k...> wrote:
> I'm glad Im not the only one confused with the rendering of Dobby 
the 
> Huose-Elf on the big screen.
> I must say, I'm a bit shocked at the appearance of Dobby.  He looks 
> nothing like I imagined.  In fact, maybe the books never say, but I 
> thought he was hairy, much like an upright-Opossom with actual 
legs.  
> Or a cross between the face of a pug-dog with a pencil-like nose 
and 
> the body of a rat. I dunno.   I'm still a bit stumped with the CoS 
> Dobby... eek.

It's not so much the appearance that bothers me (not what I imagined, 
but not something I'm totally adverse to either), but he 
didn't /feel/ right to me.  Dobby always struck me as having a lot of 
energy on the page--there's this sense of urgency in everything he 
does.  I didn't get that in the trailer--he felt kind of tired and 
half-hearted to me.
The bit with the car looks excellent, though.

~Christi





From Ali at zymurgy.org  Thu Jun 13 09:46:19 2002
From: Ali at zymurgy.org (alhewison)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 09:46:19 -0000
Subject: Dobby & being picky
In-Reply-To: <138.fab8b61.2a394fea@aol.com>
Message-ID: <ae9plb+kdj1@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., fsuass at a... wrote:
>
> I know someone has already pointed this out previously on this 
list, but if 
> you look at the Chapter Two of Chamber of Secrets, you'll see that 
the CGI 
> rendering of Dobby is actually very close to Mary Granpre's 
illustration. 
> What more is it that people are looking for?
> 
> Jen, 
> Who rarely posts but is wondering what all the fuss is about
> 
In the UK Harry Potter books there are no illustrations. I can accept 
that Dobby looks like the US illustrations and was probably agreed by 
JKR. But, the Dobby they have shown is nothing like the one I've 
imagined. My Dobby is cuddily - and also hairy and possum like. The 
screen Dobby isn't cute - well not to me anyway. Seeing more of him 
might help (I hope).

I don't quite understand the picture of Harry and Hedwig either. It 
looks to me like they are looking out over a loch in Scotland. It 
looks beautiful, but I can't quite relate it to the book. I keep 
wondering if it's meant to be Harry looking out over the Hogwarts 
lake - but it doesn't seem to fit the lake descriptions (well not to 
me anyway). Artistic licence, which as it looks nice I'll live with!

Harry's bedroom is actually more dreary than I imagined it. I just 
thought that as the room had previously been Dudley's spare, it would 
actually look ok. I can live with that though as I never felt the 
Dursley house was quite "right" in PS/SS.

I know this sounds very nitpicky - and it is. I think that's the 
trouble with any film version of a book. It's somebody else's 
interpretation, not your own.  The minute anything is altered from 
the books, or our impression of the books, thousands of us will 
notice. Then ultimately, our enjoyment of the film will be determined 
not by how similar the film is to the book, but how much the film 
manages to retain the essence of the book, but still be good in it's 
own right.

Actually, despite reservations I had about PS/SS film, they managed 
to get alot of the characters, Hogwarts and Quidditch just as I had 
imagined them. I don't think it's a great film, but I do love it. 
What concerns me about this new teaser trailer is that I *personally* 
don't feel particularly enticed by it (although I did love the car 
scene).

Ali






From Joanne0012 at aol.com  Thu Jun 13 10:00:12 2002
From: Joanne0012 at aol.com (joanne0012)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:00:12 -0000
Subject: Dursley home (was Re: Dobby & being picky)
In-Reply-To: <ae9plb+kdj1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ae9qfc+34g0@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "alhewison" <Ali at z...> wrote:
>Harry's bedroom is actually more dreary than I imagined it. I just 
> thought that as the room had previously been Dudley's spare, it would 
> actually look ok. I can live with that though as I never felt the 
> Dursley house was quite "right" in PS/SS.

I suppose if Dudley treated the room as a giant storge closet, there would be no 
need to decorate it.  And certainly the Dursleys wouldn't give Harry any "good" 
furniture, special comforts, or decor.  

When I first saw the Dursleys' living room (parlor? sitting room?) in the film, I 
nearly screamed -- their wallpaper is the EXACT same as the wallpaper that 
came with my house, which I bought from a rather Dursley-ish family!

I've done a 3-week home exchange in London, but that's the extent of my insight 
into British homes -- what was it about the Dursley place that didn't seem right 
to you?  Was it something related to the books, or to the general Dursley-class 
lifestyle?




From Dar20 at aol.com  Thu Jun 13 12:02:01 2002
From: Dar20 at aol.com (darlenebuell)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 12:02:01 -0000
Subject: Dvd complaint
In-Reply-To: <ae8a1e+u7tn@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aea1jp+4emc@eGroups.com>

> I was really looking forward to hearing Harry & Company in french.  
> However, the DVD comes only in English/Spanish in N. America.  
What's 
> up with that?!  Don't most DVD's come in at least the two most 
> frequently used languages: French and English?

Depends on what country you are referring to!  US would be Spanish 
and English.  Canada is French and English.

> What about the Canadian DVD?  It must come in french, but what DVD 
> region is Canada??  Sorry if this subject has already been touched 
on 
> before but I can't recall.

I ordered my Canadian PS DVD (Region 1) from chapters.ca (got it much 
faster than they told me... a couple of days!) and YES, it is in 
French and English. 

Dar




From Ali at zymurgy.org  Thu Jun 13 13:48:13 2002
From: Ali at zymurgy.org (alhewison)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 13:48:13 -0000
Subject: Dursley home (was Re: Dobby & being picky)
In-Reply-To: <ae9qfc+34g0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aea7qt+c2vm@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "joanne0012" <Joanne0012 at a...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "alhewison" <Ali at z...> wrote:
>> When I first saw the Dursleys' living room (parlor? sitting room?) 
in the film, I 
> nearly screamed -- their wallpaper is the EXACT same as the 
wallpaper that 
> came with my house, which I bought from a rather Dursley-ish family!
> 
> I've done a 3-week home exchange in London, but that's the extent 
of my insight  into British homes -- what was it about the Dursley 
place that didn't seem right  to you?  Was it something related to 
the books, or to the general Dursley-class  lifestyle?

More specifically I thought it was much too small. It seemed that 
they only really had one room downstairs - a kitchen which opened 
onto a living room. In the books they have a kitchen (which is big 
enough to have a kitchen table), plus a separate dining room and a 
living room. These are all mentioned in CoS, so I'm wondering how 
they're going to do the Dobby scenes with Harry in the kitchen, as if 
they use the room lay out they had for PS/SS the Dursleys would see 
Harry and Dobby run into the kitchen. Given the Dursleys pretensions, 
I though that they would have a bigger house.

(I alsways imagined a 1930's style house rather than a modern one as 
did many of my friends, but this a perception rather than canon - it 
was just strange that so many of us shared it).

Ali






From jprescot at uci.edu  Thu Jun 13 15:06:56 2002
From: jprescot at uci.edu (PrncsPnut)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 15:06:56 -0000
Subject: Dobby & being picky
In-Reply-To: <ae9plb+kdj1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aeaceg+lgpg@eGroups.com>

Hiya,
well, Perhaps Dobby in the movie is like the Dobby of the Marie 
Grandpre illustrations, but I have to admit (and I might be alone in 
this) that i dont particularily care for her illustrations.  They 
certainly dont match my vision of Harry, for one thing.  I dont know 
who does the covers for the british versions, but I've seen the one 
for PoA and that fit my minds-eye much better.
Though the book does mention that Dobby isn't the best looking 
creature in the world, i thought he would have been a bit more cuddly.
I guess my vision of Dobby was that he was so ugly, he was cute.

Yeah, Im being picky, but Dobby does play a large role and the role
is 
reprised in the books.  So, if they have it wrong now (when compared 
to my minds eye), it's going to be wrong in all the other movies.  I 
can live with it (since, well I have no choice! haha), but since we 
all love these characters, it makes it difficult when it doesnt match 
our own visions.  See, they really should hire us. <G>

cheers
jenny


> > I know someone has already pointed this out previously on this 
> list, but if 
> > you look at the Chapter Two of Chamber of Secrets, you'll see
that 
> the CGI 
> > rendering of Dobby is actually very close to Mary Granpre's 
> illustration. 
> > What more is it that people are looking for?
> > 

>  
> In the UK Harry Potter books there are no illustrations. I can 
accept 
> that Dobby looks like the US illustrations and was probably agreed 
by 
> JKR. But, the Dobby they have shown is nothing like the one I've 
> imagined. My Dobby is cuddily - and also hairy and possum like. The 
> screen Dobby isn't cute - well not to me anyway. Seeing more of him 
> might help (I hope).
> 




From Joanne0012 at aol.com  Thu Jun 13 15:45:07 2002
From: Joanne0012 at aol.com (joanne0012)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 15:45:07 -0000
Subject: Dobby & being picky
In-Reply-To: <aeaceg+lgpg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aeaem3+nvtl@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "PrncsPnut" <jprescot at u...> wrote:
> Though the book does mention that Dobby isn't the best looking 
> creature in the world, i thought he would have been a bit more cuddly.
> I guess my vision of Dobby was that he was so ugly, he was cute.

Exactly.  IIRC, the books mention several times that Harry feels emotionally 
sympathetic towards Dobby, which is difficult with this animated creature, who 
seems almost mechanical.  It's as if the animators went to a palette of skin 
textures and accidentally chose "dinosaur" or, eek, "Jar-Jar" rather than 
something relatively human like "old lady" or "goblin".  Dobby is a weirder shape 
than the Gringott's goblins, hence the animation rather than actors, but still he's 
at least equally deserving of being portrayed as a, um, humanoid.




From jprescot at uci.edu  Thu Jun 13 17:08:16 2002
From: jprescot at uci.edu (PrncsPnut)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 17:08:16 -0000
Subject: Dobby & being picky
In-Reply-To: <aeaem3+nvtl@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aeaji0+nnjp@eGroups.com>

> Dobby is a weirder shape 
> than the Gringott's goblins, hence the animation rather than
actors, 
>but still he's at least equally deserving of being portrayed as a, 
>um, humanoid.


Yes, exactly.  And I just had another thought: House-Elves are 
supposed to have their own brand of powerful magic.  However, looking 
at CoS-Movie-Dobby, one wouldn't actually see a 'powerful' creature.  
He doesnt seem very solid.  I don't picture the Malfoy's as 
employing/enslaving (S.P.E.W. anyone?) a house-elf that doesn't have 
the ability to stand on his own.

I wonder how they did design Dobby? I dont suppose they'll tell us 
though.  Some kind of secret.  Oh, but didn't C. Columbus say that 
Dobby was definitely not like Jar-Jar Binks?  Uh-oh. <G>  At least 
Jar-Jar seemed somewhat solid.

ok, im going off now. I'll stop.  Im going to enjoy the movie 
regardless of what Dobby looks like; I already know this. :)




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Wed Jun 12 21:56:44 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 22:56:44 +0100
Subject: DVD - foreign languages
References: <ae8a1e+u7tn@eGroups.com> <38137317615.20020612135804@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000301c212fe$04b8ac80$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

I haven't looked for the languages yet on my DVD but if they are half as much fun as Rufus Beck on my recently acquired German language story tapes - it should be good fun.  I know enough German (lived there when I was small) and am really enjoying it!

By the say (lame question..) where is the language selection bit on the DVD - I use our computer player and sometimes it plays up so I like to cut the the chase and cause it minimum disruption!!

Felicia
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Susanne 
  To: PrncsPnut 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 9:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Dvd complaint




  Hi,

  Wednesday, June 12, 2002, 1:13:34 PM, jprescot at uci.edu wrote:

  > I was really looking forward to hearing Harry & Company in french.  
  > However, the DVD comes only in English/Spanish in N. America.  What's 
  > up with that?!  Don't most DVD's come in at least the two most 
  > frequently used languages: French and English?

  I agree!

  I was hoping it would have German as a choice, too.

  I'm from Germany and our daughter is bilingual, so it would
  have been nice to use this as an educational thing, too.

  She doesn't get to hear enough German as it is.

  -- 
  Best regards,
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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Wed Jun 12 22:04:07 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 23:04:07 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: CoS trailer
References: <ae5tv0+8k67@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000501c212fe$05c53a80$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

This is just an unseemly rumour to deprive Fred and George fans of their treat - surely.  However, as Harry and Ron didn't fly inf ront of the Hogwarts Express in the book - maybe it's another * liberty *??

Felicia
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 11:35 PM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: CoS trailer


  --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "River3_98" <ITZregina at h...> wrote:
  > > has anyone noticed that Harry seems to have his trunk in his 
  > bedroom -
  > >  you can see what looks like a trunk next to his bed. >
  > 
  > 
  > Hmmmm...I wonder if that means the twins will not be in 
  > the "rescue"?  I've heard rumors to that effect.
  > 
  > Gina

  GAAAAAH!!! I hope not.  They've had little enough screen time as it 
  is...
  Another possibility: we only see the bedroom before the Dursley's 
  decide to put Harry in solitary, right?  Perhaps Vernon locks up the 
  trunk after the whole business with the ruined dinner party goes 
  down...

  ~Christi



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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Wed Jun 12 22:07:13 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 23:07:13 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The trailer
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I must confess that having read about Arthur Weasley - I an intrigued to see him * in action* especially with feisty Mrs Weasley in tow!

I hope the bit where Harry and Hedwog look all romantic and thoughtful is The Burrow (and that it comes out as a poster).

Felicia
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  Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 3:30 PM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The trailer



  > And what's with the first scene with Harry and Hedwig looking over a 
  > VERY beautiful mountain/island scene?  Nice touch....but confused as 
  > to what it could be. 

  The Hogwarts environments? Or The Burrow? Probably the latter - 
  if it's functioning as some sort of sanctuary, it would make
  much sense.

  Anybody else on this list looking forward to Mr Weasley?
  The actor's brilliant, but I've got to say that, 
  as a huge fan of the Fast Show ...

  Maria


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From saitaina at wizzards.net  Thu Jun 13 17:25:26 2002
From: saitaina at wizzards.net (Saitaina)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:25:26 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Dobby & being picky
References: <aeaem3+nvtl@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <004801c212ff$51b0d8e0$2c4e28d1@oemcomputer>

Sommmwho didnt' put their name wrote:

<Dobby is a weirder shape 
than the Gringott's goblins, hence the animation rather than actors, but still he's 
at least equally deserving of being portrayed as a, um, humanoid.>

Why should be be portrayed as humanoid?  He's not.  He's a house-elf. A seperate creature then all you named before.  I think Dobby's rather spot on.  Large eyes, squashed nose...everything fits.  The movie makers only have so much to go on and they choose an image (Dobby's illistrations from the US editions) that a great deal of people identify with.  Although I'm a little sick of every CGI'd character being an odd greyish colour that's my only complant.


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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Thu Jun 13 17:23:37 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 18:23:37 +0100
Subject: Dobby
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Message-ID: <001001c212ff$0dbc4d40$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

I read an article that said Dobbie was all CG - computer generated - i.e. not real.  This might account for his less than tangible * feel * but as special effects are now of such a high standard that HP's huge and impressive collection of them was ignored at the Oscars recently - it's hard to tell

Felicia
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  Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 6:08 PM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Dobby & being picky


  > Dobby is a weirder shape 
  > than the Gringott's goblins, hence the animation rather than
  actors, 
  >but still he's at least equally deserving of being portrayed as a, 
  >um, humanoid.


  Yes, exactly.  And I just had another thought: House-Elves are 
  supposed to have their own brand of powerful magic.  However, looking 
  at CoS-Movie-Dobby, one wouldn't actually see a 'powerful' creature.  
  He doesnt seem very solid.  I don't picture the Malfoy's as 
  employing/enslaving (S.P.E.W. anyone?) a house-elf that doesn't have 
  the ability to stand on his own.

  I wonder how they did design Dobby? I dont suppose they'll tell us 
  though.  Some kind of secret.  Oh, but didn't C. Columbus say that 
  Dobby was definitely not like Jar-Jar Binks?  Uh-oh. <G>  At least 
  Jar-Jar seemed somewhat solid.

  ok, im going off now. I'll stop.  Im going to enjoy the movie 
  regardless of what Dobby looks like; I already know this. :)


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From Joanne0012 at aol.com  Thu Jun 13 18:19:31 2002
From: Joanne0012 at aol.com (joanne0012)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 18:19:31 -0000
Subject: Dobby & being picky
In-Reply-To: <004801c212ff$51b0d8e0$2c4e28d1@oemcomputer>
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--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Saitaina" <saitaina at w...> wrote:
> Sommmwho didnt' put their name wrote:
> 
> <Dobby is a weirder shape 
> than the Gringott's goblins, hence the animation rather than actors, but still 
he's 
> at least equally deserving of being portrayed as a, um, humanoid.>
> 
> Why should be be portrayed as humanoid?  He's not.  He's a house-elf. A 
seperate creature then all you named before.  I think Dobby's rather spot on.  
Large eyes, squashed nose...everything fits.  The movie makers only have so 
much to go on and they choose an image (Dobby's illistrations from the US 
editions) that a great deal of people identify with.  Although I'm a little sick of 
every CGI'd character being an odd greyish colour that's my only complant.
> 

I guess "humanoid" wasn't the best choice of words, I was trying to encompass 
all the bipedal, intelligent-enough-to-speak creatures in the WW.  I'm well aware 
that house-elves aren't human beings, but nevertheless Dobby is a person, not a 
machine or an animal, and he just looks too mechanical and implausible.  It's not 
the shape of his face that's a problem for me, I'm fine with GrandPre's 
illustration and with the film Dobby's general configuration, it's more that he just 
doesn't look like a *real* anything.  Those CGI guys can make real-looking 
dinosaurs, they could have made Dobby less, well, fakey.  Maybe he was done in 
too much of a hurry, like the very unfortunate centaur in PS/SS.




From editor at texas.net  Thu Jun 13 18:44:18 2002
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 13:44:18 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Dobby & being picky
References: <aeaem3+nvtl@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <003001c2130a$547d6560$b07e63d1@texas.net>

Okay. Just for grins, I ferretted descriptions out of CoS (US edition):

"The little creature on the bed had large, bat-like ears and bulging green
eyes the size of tennis balls."
"The creature slipped off the bed and bowed so low that the end of its long,
thin nose touched the carpet."
"Harry noticed that it was wearing what looked like an old pillowcase, with
rips for arm- and leg-holes" (all p. 12)
"..where he [Dobby] sat hiccoughing, looking like a large and very ugly
doll." (p. 13)
"...said Dobby reverently, his orb-like eyes aglow."
"Dobby clapped his hands over his bat ears" (both these, p. 15)
"A single tear was running down his long, pointed nose." (p. 176)
"..nodding his head vigorously, ears flapping." (p. 176)
"He was rocking backward and forward, shaking his ugly head." (p. 176)
"The elf's ugly brown face split suddenly into a wide, toothy smile." (p.
339)
"Dobby threw his arms around Harry's middle and hugged him." (p. 339)

So we have a creature about half Harry's height, with a brown face, bat-ears
that flap when he shakes his head, big ball-eyes, and a long pointy nose.
Without having to refer to the illlustration (which I can scan and post to
the files section if you UK folk would like to see it), I'd say the
following:
The size is about right; I think maybe he's a tad large.
I think his color is wrong; the only reference to his color is above, but it
does say brown.
I think it is right to have him non-fuzzy; the descriptions of his ears as
with reference to bats and flapping makes one think of skin flapping, not
furred skin. And if his ears have no fur, I wouldn't think the rest of him
would have it, not to any large extent. And Harry would surely have noticed
it.
I don't think his nose is long enough, but I'll have to go back and see. By
contrast, Winky has a tomato-nose.
There was, by the way, a discussion I remember somewhere on how you could
wear a pillowcase like that, without a hole for the neck, too. It got rather
creative.
So I think other than color, they are staying pretty close to what Dobby's
supposed to look like. I think the intensity problem, and the fake look to
him, will be taken care of when he's moving and speaking. Like a still from
Wallace and Gromit, it just can't convey the feel of the character.

All in all, it looks like Grandpre's illustration is pretty close (unlike
another I can think of, in book 1 over the chapter The Potions Master, where
Snape is bearded *sigh*). So let me know if you'd like me to scan it in.

--Amanda, who is letting her LOONiness slip just a bit, for she didn't comb
through books 3 or 4 for descriptive tidbits




From rogetaylor at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 13 19:06:43 2002
From: rogetaylor at yahoo.com (Ms Found in a Bottle)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 12:06:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Dobby
In-Reply-To: <138.fab8b61.2a394fea@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20020613190643.60681.qmail@web11807.mail.yahoo.com>


--- fsuass at aol.com wrote:

> but if you look at the Chapter Two of Chamber of 
> Secrets,you'll see that the CGI rendering of Dobby 
> is actually very close to Mary Granpre's 
> illustration. What more is it that people are 
> looking for?

I was actually kinda wondering the same thing, because
when my sister and I first saw the teaser poster and
then the stills on the web, we thought they did a
great job.  Granted, I'm sure it will be different to
see him actually moving, but the pics look good in my
opinion.

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From Dar20 at aol.com  Thu Jun 13 19:24:52 2002
From: Dar20 at aol.com (darlenebuell)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 19:24:52 -0000
Subject: Dobby & being picky
In-Reply-To: <003001c2130a$547d6560$b07e63d1@texas.net>
Message-ID: <aeari4+9354@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Amanda Geist" <editor at t...> wrote:
> Okay. Just for grins, I ferretted descriptions out of CoS (US 
edition):

<big snip>

Thanks, Amanda!  That was a big help!  I think Dobby is pretty right 
on to what I pictured.  Then again, I have both the US and UK books, 
so I've seen the illustrations.  Though I may not agree with all of 
them, it helps with a creature like Dobby and Winky.

Dar




From ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk  Thu Jun 13 19:32:36 2002
From: ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin Hooper)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 20:32:36 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] DVD - foreign languages
In-Reply-To: <000301c212fe$04b8ac80$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
References: <ae8a1e+u7tn@eGroups.com>
 <38137317615.20020612135804@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020613203130.009f3200@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>

At 22:56 12/06/02, you wrote:
>By the say (lame question..) where is the language selection bit on the 
>DVD - I use our computer player and sometimes it plays up so I like to cut 
>the the chase and cause it minimum disruption!!

Felicia - Depends on your DVD Player.

On PowerDVD which is the one I have it is under Audio from the menu (Can't 
quite remember off-hand though!)  So look for a menu entitled audio or 
something similar.



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From ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk  Thu Jun 13 19:34:13 2002
From: ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin Hooper)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 20:34:13 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Dobby & being picky
In-Reply-To: <003001c2130a$547d6560$b07e63d1@texas.net>
References: <aeaem3+nvtl@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020613203356.009f6070@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>

At 19:44 13/06/02, you wrote:
>Without having to refer to the illlustration (which I can scan and post to
>the files section if you UK folk would like to see it), I'd say the
>following:

Yes please Amanda...  Was thinking of asking that myself...;)


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From btk6y at virginia.edu  Thu Jun 13 23:32:34 2002
From: btk6y at virginia.edu (btk6y)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 23:32:34 -0000
Subject: Annoyed at Warner Bros
Message-ID: <aeba2i+im1e@eGroups.com>

Is anyone else incredibly annoyed at Warner Bros. for releasing only 
30 seconds of the trailer and then saying "Go see Scooby Doo to see 
the rest"???  I know they have every right to do that but it just 
seems so unclassy and money-grubbing.  Not to mention that we don't 
even know if the trailer will be available for download or just 
viewing on their website.  It strikes me as business guys in suits 
making idiotic decisions with no thought to the desires of the fans.  
George Lucas and the Matrix directors (being tech-savvy and fan-
responsive) have ALWAYS released their trailers on the internet and 
in the largest possible format, which I haven't really appreciated 
until now.  One thing is for sure- I will NEVER allow WB to get money 
from me for Scooby Doo.  If I ever do decide to see that movie, I'm 
buying a ticket for another movie so that Warner doesn't get the 
ticket sale... just my little rebellion, I suppose.

Bobby






From saitaina at wizzards.net  Fri Jun 14 01:44:03 2002
From: saitaina at wizzards.net (Saitaina)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 18:44:03 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Annoyed at Warner Bros
References: <aeba2i+im1e@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <009901c21344$f7609100$1e4e28d1@oemcomputer>

Bobby wrote:

<Is anyone else incredibly annoyed at Warner Bros. for releasing only 
30 seconds of the trailer and then saying "Go see Scooby Doo to see 
the rest"???  >

Not really, that's the way the world works.  Teasers and trials are there to get money out of you when you go buy the actual product or see something.  

Scooby-Doo is a highly anticipated movie for Warner Brothers.  The same age group Harry is intended for will most likely be seeing it so their trying to bring in their audience early.  They want our money and Warner Brothers has ALWAYS been very up front about that.  It's rare that they let you have something for nothing.

Bobbie also said:

<George Lucas and the Matrix directors (being tech-savvy and fan-
responsive)>

Warner Brothers is not known for their fan relations.  Only within the Harry Potter fandom have they seem to have grown a brain and responded with a bit of kindness to fans rather then then "Who cares what they think/want/feel?" Belief they have in other fandoms.

Bobbie then wrote: 

<One thing is for sure- I will NEVER allow WB to get money 
from me for Scooby Doo.  If I ever do decide to see that movie, I'm 
buying a ticket for another movie so that Warner doesn't get the 
ticket sale... just my little rebellion, I suppose.>

Just so you know...that is called stealing.  Not that they could track you down individually (although the theatre could...) I still don't think it's an appropriate rebellion but that's just my opinion.  I've never been one for sneaking into movie theatre's without paying (such as some said they would do just to see the trailer of HP instead of watching Scooby)


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From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Fri Jun 14 01:47:42 2002
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 20:47:42 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Annoyed at Warner Bros/Dobby
References: <aeba2i+im1e@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3D094B3E.9080700@kingwoodcable.com>

I won't be seeing Scooby Doo. I never planned on it, and I'm not willing 
to see it just for the trailer. I suspect they'll post the full trailer 
eventually. It's interesting that you bring up Matrix, since Matrix is 
also a WB production. It's because of the Matrix that POA will be 
released a year later than anticipated.

I'm not worried though - before we know it, November will be here, and 
we'll get to see Harry Potter in all it's glory all over again. I'm very 
much looking forward to it! I'm excited just looking at the pictures, 
and my husband has already agreed that I can drag him to see it (maybe 
again and again?). It's great too because he hasn't read books 2, 3, or 4!

As for Dobby - I was quite surprised and somewhat disappointed with his 
appearance. He doesn't really resemeble the drawing he was supposed to 
be modeled after (not that I could tell - I didn't see a super long nose 
cause we never saw a side shot). I also imagined him talking really fast 
and almost like a little child. I expected him to be a little softer 
around the edges (even though they probably don't get to eat much), and 
much smaller. I imagined his skin more yellowish-green (perhaps his eye 
color seeped into his skin in my mind?), and I imagined his green eyes 
as bright as Harry's eyes are *supposed* to be. Oh well - maybe he'll 
grow on me.

-Katze

btk6y wrote:
> Is anyone else incredibly annoyed at Warner Bros. for releasing only 
> 30 seconds of the trailer and then saying "Go see Scooby Doo to see 
> the rest"???  I know they have every right to do that but it just 
> seems so unclassy and money-grubbing.  Not to mention that we don't 
> even know if the trailer will be available for download or just 
> viewing on their website.  It strikes me as business guys in suits 
> making idiotic decisions with no thought to the desires of the fans.  
> George Lucas and the Matrix directors (being tech-savvy and fan-
> responsive) have ALWAYS released their trailers on the internet and 
> in the largest possible format, which I haven't really appreciated 
> until now.  One thing is for sure- I will NEVER allow WB to get money 
> from me for Scooby Doo.  If I ever do decide to see that movie, I'm 
> buying a ticket for another movie so that Warner doesn't get the 
> ticket sale... just my little rebellion, I suppose.
> 
> Bobby
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From eleri at aracnet.com  Fri Jun 14 17:01:07 2002
From: eleri at aracnet.com (CB)
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 10:01:07 -0700
Subject: Dobby
In-Reply-To: <1024059795.1828.11131.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020614095707.00b9f300@mail.aracnet.com>

Well, I'm in the minority here it seems, but I *liked* the way Dobby looks. 
He looks frail, abused and miserable. We haven't seen any other house elves 
that serve in *nice* households. It's entirely possible that they'll look 
less run down.
At any rate, I'd always visualized house elves as being skinny, kinda 
rat-like things. Very dismissable, very easy to not be seen. Even the 
people who are nice to their house elves have an "out of sight/out of mind" 
mentality. If they were cheery, friendly looking beasties, they'd be less 
forgettable.

Charlene




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Fri Jun 14 17:21:16 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 18:21:16 +0100
Subject: Annoyed at Warner Bros - why bother
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The trailer will be out soon enough in another format I am sure, so why waste money going to see a film you don't want to or wringing hands if you hate Scooby-Doo?  We have waited so long for 1) films and 2) the "The Books" that waiting abit longer is not going to make that much difference.

On the other hand, in relative terms having the first Harry Potter film is almost * instant gratitifation * compared to the wait for the film version(s) for the poor souls who love LOTR.

Felicia

Currently listening to Der Stein der Weisen as a change from her usual HP/PS story tapes (just to pass the time...)
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Saitaina 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 2:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Annoyed at Warner Bros


  Bobby wrote:

  <Is anyone else incredibly annoyed at Warner Bros. for releasing only 
  30 seconds of the trailer and then saying "Go see Scooby Doo to see 
  the rest"???  >

  Not really, that's the way the world works.  Teasers and trials are there to get money out of you when you go buy the actual product or see something.  

  Scooby-Doo is a highly anticipated movie for Warner Brothers.  The same age group Harry is intended for will most likely be seeing it so their trying to bring in their audience early.  They want our money and Warner Brothers has ALWAYS been very up front about that.  It's rare that they let you have something for nothing.

  Bobbie also said:

  <George Lucas and the Matrix directors (being tech-savvy and fan-
  responsive)>

  Warner Brothers is not known for their fan relations.  Only within the Harry Potter fandom have they seem to have grown a brain and responded with a bit of kindness to fans rather then then "Who cares what they think/want/feel?" Belief they have in other fandoms.

  Bobbie then wrote: 

  <One thing is for sure- I will NEVER allow WB to get money 
  from me for Scooby Doo.  If I ever do decide to see that movie, I'm 
  buying a ticket for another movie so that Warner doesn't get the 
  ticket sale... just my little rebellion, I suppose.>

  Just so you know...that is called stealing.  Not that they could track you down individually (although the theatre could...) I still don't think it's an appropriate rebellion but that's just my opinion.  I've never been one for sneaking into movie theatre's without paying (such as some said they would do just to see the trailer of HP instead of watching Scooby)


  Saitaina
  *****
  Cordelia: It's kinda like a puzzle -- the Who Died Horribly Because Angel Screwed Up 50 Years Ago Game?

  Denver: They keep calling her a zany redhead. Could be a brunette for all I can tell. Guess I'll just have to take their word for it.

  Angel: It's been a long time since I've opened a vein, but I'll do it you pull any more of that Van Helsing Jr. crap with me. Are we clear?

  Thesulac: There's an entire hotel here just full of tortured souls who could really use your help. Whaddya say?
  Angel: Take 'em all.

  Wesley: I've been accused of a great many things in my time, but paranoid has never been one of them. Unless people have been saying it behind my back.

  -"Are you no or have you ever been"


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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Fri Jun 14 22:20:46 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 23:20:46 +0100
Subject: Dobby & being picky
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As someone whose book did not come with illistrations I have nothing to fall back on to help except imagination and Dobby does not * look like Dobby * and I sincerely hope the CG is in better condition when it hits the bit screen - he did seem a tad on the ephemeral side.

However, I will give the little creep - sorry - creature the benefit of the doubt until I see the film in full (in November)  By which time the next book may be out (weak grin).

Felicia

whose dvd does not have any other languages on it except something that seems arabic.......


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From btk6y at virginia.edu  Fri Jun 14 22:53:34 2002
From: btk6y at virginia.edu (btk6y)
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 22:53:34 -0000
Subject: Annoyed at Warner Bros
In-Reply-To: <009901c21344$f7609100$1e4e28d1@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <aeds5e+n8kc@eGroups.com>

> Bobby wrote:
> 
> <Is anyone else incredibly annoyed at Warner Bros. for releasing 
only 
> 30 seconds of the trailer and then saying "Go see Scooby Doo to see 
> the rest"???  >

> Saitaina wrote:
> Not really, that's the way the world works.  Teasers and trials are 
there to get money out of you when you go buy the actual product or 
see something.  Scooby-Doo is a highly anticipated movie for Warner 
Brothers.  The same age group Harry is intended for will most likely 
be seeing it so their trying to bring in their audience early.  They 
want our money and Warner Brothers has ALWAYS been very up front 
about that.  It's rare that they let you have something for nothing.

Yes, I understand that is the way the world works, but I don't know 
if anyone ever said the world works perfectly.  If something could be 
better, don't you think it's a good idea to point it out?  Or should 
we just throw up our hands everytime a corporate entity tries a new 
money-grubbing technique to raise profits?  Following the philosophy 
of "that's the way the world works", minimum wage would be 50 
cents/hr and child labor would still be allowed.  Besides, I heartily 
DISAGREE that making the trailer available only with Scooby Doo will 
increase their profits.  Making the trailer widely available for 
download on the internet raises the visibility of the movie and 
engenders good fan relations, a MUCH better business tactic than, 
say, pissing off fans by saying "go pay to see Scooby Doo and then 
maybe you will see the trailer".  Besides, Harry Potter has a BROAD 
appeal, not just for kids, so there are plenty of people who want to 
see the trailer that have no interest in Scooby Doo.  The Matrix and 
Star Wars (and indeed the last Harry Potter movie) set download 
records for the trailers that were picked up and used as stories on 
CNN and other news networks, increasing anticipation and awareness.  
So I believe that not releasing the trailer on the internet makes 
POOR business sense (in addition to lousy fan relations), but this is 
a concept often misunderstood by business people.

> Bobby also said:
> 
> <George Lucas and the Matrix directors (being tech-savvy and fan-
> responsive)>

> Saitaina wrote:
> Warner Brothers is not known for their fan relations.  Only within 
the Harry Potter fandom have they seem to have grown a brain and 
responded with a bit of kindness to fans rather then then "Who cares 
what they think/want/feel?" Belief they have in other fandoms.

So just because Warner Bros. isn't known for their fan relations, 
does that mean we should give them a free ride?  No, we should hold 
them accountable for their actions and try to influence a change for 
the positive.

> Bobby then wrote: 
> 
> <One thing is for sure- I will NEVER allow WB to get money 
> from me for Scooby Doo.  If I ever do decide to see that movie, I'm 
> buying a ticket for another movie so that Warner doesn't get the 
> ticket sale... just my little rebellion, I suppose.>

> Saitaina then wrote:
> Just so you know...that is called stealing.  Not that they could 
track you down individually (although the theatre could...) I still 
don't think it's an appropriate rebellion but that's just my 
opinion.  I've never been one for sneaking into movie theatre's 
without paying (such as some said they would do just to see the 
trailer of HP instead of watching Scooby)

No, you misunderstood what I said.  First of all, I would never go 
see Scooby Doo just to see the trailer because I would never want to 
reward that kind of idiotic business practice.  Secondly, if for some 
reason I decided to go see Scooby Doo (independant of the trailers 
attached to it), Warner's practice has disgusted me so much that I 
would buy a ticket for a DIFFERENT movie just so that WB doesn't get 
the money.  The theatre shouldn't care because they are getting $8 
regardless.  I understand that this is not exactly following the 
rules, per se, but I don't believe this is "stealing" (especially 
since it costs me the same either way) but rather a form of civil 
disobedience in response to an act of utter stupidity.  History is 
replete with instances of people "disobeying" rules in order to 
protest an injustice.  Is not releasing the trailer on the internet 
really an injustice?  Of course not, and it's really not that big a 
deal in the grand scheme of things- but neither is my buying a ticket 
for a different movie so WB doesn't get the sale.  We can argue the 
slippery slope on both sides, so don't tell me one is worse than the 
other.  Studios MUST be held accountable because even though they are 
dealing with money and profit, they are also handling cherished 
institutions and art that holds a more important place in the public 
consciousness, and we can't let them slide just because they THINK 
they can make a few extra bucks.

Bobby

  





From dkewpie at pacbell.net  Fri Jun 14 23:12:25 2002
From: dkewpie at pacbell.net (kewpiebb99)
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 23:12:25 -0000
Subject: Dobby
In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20020614095707.00b9f300@mail.aracnet.com>
Message-ID: <aedt8p+khv1@eGroups.com>

I totally agree with you. I really like the way they design Dobby and 
its looks very similar to what I imagine him to be like. And I think 
he looks dead on according to the book's description! He's pooor, 
abused looking, totally fit the image of a miserable slave of the 
Malfoy's! Besides, I don't think Dobby is suppose to be cute looking. 
Just look at Harry's attitude toward Dobby, he thinks he is a "very 
ugly doll"! And none of the other characters in the book think Dobby 
is a cute puppies either! (including Hermione, who's a girl, who 
normally will react a certain way toward cute things, but she 
didn't.) Anyways, I'm just saying that from the book, Dobby seems 
like an ugly annoying thing anyways (at least to me), and the movie 
design perfectly delivered that feeling.



--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., CB <eleri at a...> wrote:
> Well, I'm in the minority here it seems, but I *liked* the way 
Dobby looks. 
> He looks frail, abused and miserable. We haven't seen any other 
house elves 
> that serve in *nice* households. It's entirely possible that 
they'll look 
> less run down.
> At any rate, I'd always visualized house elves as being skinny, 
kinda 
> rat-like things. Very dismissable, very easy to not be seen. Even 
the 
> people who are nice to their house elves have an "out of sight/out 
of mind" 
> mentality. If they were cheery, friendly looking beasties, they'd 
be less 
> forgettable.
> 
> Charlene




From amy at pressroom.com  Sat Jun 15 00:33:37 2002
From: amy at pressroom.com (Amy Gourley)
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 20:33:37 -0400
Subject: Dobby, COS teaser
References: <ae9plb+kdj1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00fa01c21404$4a85c2a0$b17ba8c0@amy>

Dobby looks ok, but not exactly how I imagined but he does look pretty close
to Mary GranPere's drawings. His voice isn't how I imagined it though. I
thought it should be higher.
The scene with Harry and Hedwig at a lake looks like scenary from LOTR to
me. Not sure where this could be, maybe it is Hogwarts like others have
said.

Amy





From janet.salter at brainna.com  Sat Jun 15 03:04:19 2002
From: janet.salter at brainna.com (salter15)
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 03:04:19 -0000
Subject: Full Length COS Trailer
Message-ID: <aeearj+ivoi@eGroups.com>

Just got back from seeing "Scooby Doo" and I must say that the full 
length trailer for COS is great!  It was well worth the money I spent 
for the movie. (oh, and "Scooby Doo" was pretty good too).

Anyway, not much else to say, but I cannot wait until Novemeber 15!!!

Janet




From saitaina at wizzards.net  Sat Jun 15 04:39:03 2002
From: saitaina at wizzards.net (Saitaina)
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 21:39:03 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Full Length COS Trailer
References: <aeearj+ivoi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <016f01c21426$94673620$094e28d1@oemcomputer>

Janet wrote:

<Just got back from seeing "Scooby Doo" and I must say that the full 
length trailer for COS is great!  It was well worth the money I spent 
for the movie. (oh, and "Scooby Doo" was pretty good too).>

I agree that the trailer was good...quite good in fact.  Although I'll have to disagree with her in regards to the movie that followed but such is life.


Saitaina
*****
Cordelia: It's kinda like a puzzle -- the Who Died Horribly Because Angel Screwed Up 50 Years Ago Game?

Denver: They keep calling her a zany redhead. Could be a brunette for all I can tell. Guess I'll just have to take their word for it.

Angel: It's been a long time since I've opened a vein, but I'll do it you pull any more of that Van Helsing Jr. crap with me. Are we clear?

Thesulac: There's an entire hotel here just full of tortured souls who could really use your help. Whaddya say?
Angel: Take 'em all.

Wesley: I've been accused of a great many things in my time, but paranoid has never been one of them. Unless people have been saying it behind my back.

-"Are you no or have you ever been"


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From saitaina at wizzards.net  Sat Jun 15 05:02:32 2002
From: saitaina at wizzards.net (Saitaina)
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 22:02:32 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Annoyed at Warner Bros
References: <aeds5e+n8kc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <017401c21429$dc6f6de0$094e28d1@oemcomputer>

Bobby wrote:

<Besides, I heartily 
DISAGREE that making the trailer available only with Scooby Doo will 
increase their profits.>

Well see this is where we but heads.  Releasing the trailer only with Scooby Doo does increase their profits though, there are many (not on this list obviously) who are buying tickets just to see the trailer. Thus their profits go up.  Especially since the movie actually..sucked. (Er, Scooby not CoS)

<Making the trailer widely available for 
download on the internet raises the visibility of the movie and 
engenders good fan relations, a MUCH better business tactic than, 
say, pissing off fans by saying "go pay to see Scooby Doo and then 
maybe you will see the trailer".>

I would like to state again that Warner brothers has no fan relations.  This part of their buisness sense was removed a long time ago.  Although they seem to have gotten a bit better with the Harry Potter fandom it really doesn't shock me that they think about only the bottom line.  I agree that releasing the trailer online would be a smart buisness move.  This time last year we had three trailers out.  One for each season, but that was before the first movie, before we got a look at everything and got to judge...now we're just walking wallets to them.

<Besides, Harry Potter has a BROAD 
appeal, not just for kids, so there are plenty of people who want to 
see the trailer that have no interest in Scooby Doo.>

There's also fans of Scooby who have no interest in Harry...big deal.  Warner Brother likes market research and if they're little survey people tell them to put the trailer on with Scooby then by golly that's what they'll do.

<So I believe that not releasing the trailer on the internet makes 
POOR business sense (in addition to lousy fan relations), but this is 
a concept often misunderstood by business people.>

As I said before, I agree with the statements...doesn't mean Warner Brothers is going to do it.  I agree that it would be good buisness practice for television networks to put past episodes up for downloading so that people can catch up and thus watch the new episodes but Warner Brothers doesn't like that idea either.  Just because something's a good idea for buisness and for fan relations doesn't mean the big guys are listening.

<So just because Warner Bros. isn't known for their fan relations, 
does that mean we should give them a free ride?  No, we should hold 
them accountable for their actions and try to influence a change for 
the positive.>

Umm, have you ever dealt with Warner Brothers?  I have.  In 1999 Warner Brothers started attacking Buffy the Vampire Slayer fan sites.  I was one of those that fought to keep fan-sites open.  I'm not saying give them a free ride I'm saying leave it alone it's just a trailer.  I'm glad that Warner Brothers has learned what little fan sense it has in regards to the Harry Potter fandom but I've seen what they can do and no, I don't wish to attempt to influence a company that doesn't care one way or another.  Not worth the time (or the aggravation) again.  Sorry but AOL Time Warner and fan relations are a very touchy subject for me.

<Studios MUST be held accountable because even though they are 
dealing with money and profit, they are also handling cherished 
institutions and art that holds a more important place in the public 
consciousness, and we can't let them slide just because they THINK 
they can make a few extra bucks.
>

Hollywood only cares about the bottom-line dear.  Studios aren't held accountable for much of anything these days.  While it would be fun to think that our voices could change their minds and get us what we want, the sad truth is it can't and I don't see a fight worth fighting here.  It's a trailer.  Two minutes of movie that if get watched enough get boring.  Besides, why protest something so minute that will last about three weeks before the trailer's attached to another movie, something you may want to see.  

It's a long wait until November 15th and there's a lot of movies to be released before them.  Perhaps you might find your interest in going to see the Powerpuff Girls or Stuart Little 2 (no I'm not trying to offend you these were just two of the movies who's trailers I saw and could guess that might have the CoS trailer attached to).  

But just to make the point of this email clear, which seems to have been lost.  I do agree with you on some points, that releasing the trailer would be in WB's best interest, but most likely, isn't going to happen.  But I don't see this as something to fight over.  This is a 'pick and choose' your battles situation and when it comes down to fighting over the internet release of a trailer or making sure an entire fandom doesn't disappear...I'm going with the fandom issue.

Saitaina
Who knows she went horribly off topic so blame it on the meds...evil meds.
*****
Cordelia: It's kinda like a puzzle -- the Who Died Horribly Because Angel Screwed Up 50 Years Ago Game?

Denver: They keep calling her a zany redhead. Could be a brunette for all I can tell. Guess I'll just have to take their word for it.

Angel: It's been a long time since I've opened a vein, but I'll do it you pull any more of that Van Helsing Jr. crap with me. Are we clear?

Thesulac: There's an entire hotel here just full of tortured souls who could really use your help. Whaddya say?
Angel: Take 'em all.

Wesley: I've been accused of a great many things in my time, but paranoid has never been one of them. Unless people have been saying it behind my back.

-"Are you no or have you ever been"


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From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 15 12:23:50 2002
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (s_ings)
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 12:23:50 -0000
Subject: Annoyed at Warner Bros
In-Reply-To: <aeds5e+n8kc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aefbkm+5o7m@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "btk6y" <btk6y at v...> wrote:> 
Secondly, if for some 
> reason I decided to go see Scooby Doo (independant of the trailers 
> attached to it), Warner's practice has disgusted me so much that I 
> would buy a ticket for a DIFFERENT movie just so that WB doesn't 
get 
> the money.  The theatre shouldn't care because they are getting $8 
> regardless.  I understand that this is not exactly following the 
> rules, per se, but I don't believe this is "stealing" (especially 
> since it costs me the same either way) but rather a form of civil 
> disobedience in response to an act of utter stupidity.  History is 
> replete with instances of people "disobeying" rules in order to 
> protest an injustice.  Is not releasing the trailer on the internet 
> really an injustice?  Of course not, and it's really not that big a 
> deal in the grand scheme of things- but neither is my buying a 
ticket 
> for a different movie so WB doesn't get the sale.  We can argue the 
> slippery slope on both sides, so don't tell me one is worse than 
the 
> other.  Studios MUST be held accountable because even though they 
are 
> dealing with money and profit, they are also handling cherished 
> institutions and art that holds a more important place in the 
public 
> consciousness, and we can't let them slide just because they THINK 
> they can make a few extra bucks.
> 

I'm going to respectfully disagree with your idea that the theatres 
shouldn't care if people buy tickets to one movie and attend another. 
Theatres pay careful attention to how many tickets are sold to a 
particular movie for a variety of reasons. Tickets sales are used as 
a basis to gauge interest and can influence whether or not movies 
move down to smaller screening rooms or leave the theatre altogether. 
And how would you feel if you bought a ticket to a movie and then 
couldn't get a seat because a number of people were in the screening 
who had not actually bought tickets to that movie? What about the 
ticket sellers who have to deal with the irate people who couldn't 
get seats in screening rooms for which they had purchased tickets in 
good faith?

Nope, I don't think that protesting against WB by doing something 
that more impact on other companies than WB is such a great idea. The 
theatres don't have anything to do with WB's decision, why do 
something  that will impact them negatively and WB less so?

Sheryll, one of the would-be harassed ticket sellers




From caliburncy at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 15 17:30:56 2002
From: caliburncy at yahoo.com (caliburncy)
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 17:30:56 -0000
Subject: Civil Disobedience -- Dobby interpretations
In-Reply-To: <aeds5e+n8kc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aeftkg+3itn@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "btk6y" <btk6y at v...> wrote:
[Re: Buying a ticket for another movie and then going into Scooby Doo 
instead]
> I understand that this is not exactly following the 
> rules, per se, but I don't believe this is "stealing" (especially 
> since it costs me the same either way) but rather a form of civil 
> disobedience in response to an act of utter stupidity.  History is 
> replete with instances of people "disobeying" rules in order to 
> protest an injustice.  Is not releasing the trailer on the internet 
> really an injustice?  Of course not, and it's really not that big a 
> deal in the grand scheme of things- but neither is my buying a
> ticket for a different movie so WB doesn't get the sale.

I have no opinion whatsoever on the ethics of your idea, since ethics 
are a rather personally-determined arena.  And in any case, I do not 
consider it my place to judge others.

However, I must protest your description of this activity as a form 
of civil disobedience.  Civil disobedience, as defined by Henry David 
Thoreau (the originator of the term) and as practiced by individuals 
such as Mohandas K. Gandhi and Martin Luther King, Jr., is about more 
than simply breaking an unjust law.  It also requires that one 
willingly accept the consequences of breaking that law.

So the only way your action would be civil disobedience is if after 
buying the ticket and going to see Scooby Doo, you went and visited 
the hotel's manager, confessed what you had done, and told him or her 
that you were willing to accept whatever consequences he had in 
mind.  For that matter, you would also need to accept any 
consequences that the two movie studios involved wished to impose 
upon you (although I suspect they are two busy to be bothered).  And 
if there is actually some law in existence that covered this sort of 
action, then you would need to deal with the local authorities as 
well.

If you are not willing to accept each of these consequences, then 
that is fine, but then you cannot call it civil disobedience.  To do 
so is to abuse the legacy of many people who have gone before you, 
fighting for causes of immense importance to them, *within the 
boundaries of the system they lived in*.  This last bit is 
important.  Civil disobedience is *not* an opposition to the system, 
truly, because you are accepting the consequences of breaking that 
law, and those consequences are a part of the system too.

So do whatever you want, but *please* leave Thoreau's concept of 
civil disobedience, and Ghandi's practice of 'satyagraha' out of it.  
These people (along with their forebearers and followers) and their 
philosophies are very important to myself and many others.

***

Now then, I suppose I should write something on-topic, eh?  For the 
record, while I will not bother registering my opinion on Movie!
Dobby's appearance (since my opinion is irrelevant to the below), I 
would like to say that I'm not sure I can agree with the statements 
that Movie!Dobby is extremely similar to Mary GrandPre's illustration 
of him.

For those of you outside the U.S., you may find this GrandPre 
illustration at the Lexicon:

http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/house_elves.html

The first picture is Dobby.  (The second is Winky.)

Now, let's compare this to Movie!Dobby (images from the official HP 
site and from The SpellBinder):

http://harrypotter.warnerbros.com/daily_prophet/img/COS_p1.jpg
http://www.thespellbinder.com/images/cos/CoSHiRes1.jpg

Amanda has already layed out a comparison of the book's description 
to Movie!Dobby, but no one has layed out the (in my opinion) stark 
differences between these two artistic interpretations (Movie vs. 
GrandPre), despite the repeated claim that they are extremely similar.

It's true that they *do* bear some traits in common, but among the 
differences are:

* Movie!Dobby's face is much more gaunt (and he looks in general more 
emaciated).  GrandPre!Dobby is thinner, but this looks like a more 
natural weight, not an emaciated one.  He also has a rounder face, 
with a pointed chin.  In fact, the shape of each face is altogether 
unique.

* Movie!Dobby's nose is much, much shorter than GrandPre!Dobby.  And 
in a fight between the two, regarding which is more accurate to the 
text description of his nose, GrandPre's longer nose wins.

* Movie!Dobby's ears are shorter and wider, and they also droop 
down.  GrandPre!Dobby's are much more pointed upward.

* GrandPre!Dobby has little tufts of fur around the sides of the face.


There are other differences (such as the fact that GrandPre!Dobby has 
curled shoes, whereas Movie!Dobby is barefoot), but these nitpicks 
are not the point--individually, speaking.  The point is that the 
cumulative total of each of these variances leads to, in my mind, a 
*very* different overall effect for Dobby.

GrandPre's version of Dobby is general more happy-looking, seemingly 
less oppressed.  His bearing is more upright; he has the carriage of 
a well-trained butler.  He is almost effeminate in features (thereby 
to blur the line between genders where house elves are concerned).

The movie version of Dobby looks much more worn and ill-treated.  He 
stoops more, as if in fear--and even when standing upright he is more 
stiff, less comfortably pleasant.  His features are more decidedly 
masculine.

Now, I am not going to comment on which of these interpretations 
is "superior".  To be honest, I have issues with both, when compared 
to the text.  But that is not the point.  The point is that I, 
personally, do not really see the marked similarities between these 
interpretations as so many other people have.

And my point in saying that is . . . uh . . . well, I guess I don't 
have a point in saying that.  Just registering an opinion.

-Luke




From Dar20 at aol.com  Mon Jun 17 12:35:46 2002
From: Dar20 at aol.com (darlenebuell)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 12:35:46 -0000
Subject: Full Length COS Trailer
In-Reply-To: <aeearj+ivoi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aekl32+8e9k@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "salter15" <janet.salter at b...> wrote:
> Just got back from seeing "Scooby Doo" and I must say that the full 
> length trailer for COS is great!  It was well worth the money I 
spent 
> for the movie. (oh, and "Scooby Doo" was pretty good too).


I agree, Janet!  The trailer was great!  And we really enjoyed Scooby 
Doo.  Lots of jokes for the adults.  I liked it alot more than I 
thought I would.

Dar




From bray.262 at osu.edu  Mon Jun 17 10:53:12 2002
From: bray.262 at osu.edu (Rachel Bray)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:53:12 +0000 (EST5EDT)
Subject: Dueling picture
Message-ID: <5A6A022C0A@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>

In the background of the picture of Draco and Harry 
dueling, there's a....gizmo.  Could that possibly be the 
thing that keeps track of the house points?  Very cool if 
it is.

One of my work buddies looked at it and said "Nah, it's a 
kool-aid dispenser."  :-)

Rachel Bray
The Ohio State University
Fees, Deposits and Disbursements

LORD OF THE SNITCH
Three men form the chaser-squad under the sky 
Seven are the teammates on their brooms of wood
Two are Bludger balls charmed to fly
One is the dork Ref all on his own
On the field of Quidditch where the Quaffles lie.
One Snitch flits over all, one grab will win it
One game may take three months, or may take but a minute
On the field of Quidditch where the Quaffles lie.

http://home.att.net/~coriolan/hpfilks.htm



From ShelaghC at aol.com  Mon Jun 17 15:47:48 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 15:47:48 -0000
Subject: CoS trailer - here there be trailer spoilers
Message-ID: <ael0b4+c43e@eGroups.com>

I got lucky - got to see the trailer twice because of some very nice 
people at the movie theatre. (It pays to make sure management knows 
you've seen Lord of the Rings 26 times. Probably didn't hurt I was 
wearing a Harry Potter T-shirt either. ;-> ) 

Moving on (this is in no particular order, just as I'm remembering 
things from the trailer): 

Daniel's voice is totally unrecognizable! If I hadn't known him by 
the face (albeit a definitely older one) I *never* would have known 
it was his. 

The three of them seem to have grown almost the same proportionately. 
Very convenient. <g> 

btw, they used the same music as with the trailer for SS/PS and 
simply worked the whole trailer around that. A touch lazy, but then 
I've been spoiled by Howard Shore and Peter Jackson. Nice shots all 
the same. And it was great to be able to see it twice. 

Snape looks a bit like he's gained a little weight - actually looked 
a tad healthier despite the white complexion. And his hair looked a 
little shorter and fuller. Course that could have just been the 
lighting. 

Loved Ron's "Can we panic now?!" at the end. <g> 

Dumbledore's beard seems a bit.... tamer. (Only way I can think of to 
describe it.) 

Loved the bit with the sword (Harry reaching up for it and thrusting 
it lustily at the sky) - though not having read the last three 
chapters of CoS I'm not sure if it's true to the book or not. 

The door to the Chamber was *very* cool with all those snakes and 
things (yes, I read someone had posted it's much different than 
what's in the book, but it was still cool <g> ). 

If the trailer is any indication, the duel between Harry and Draco is 
going to be *wonderful*! 

Interesting moment with Ron and Harry sitting all by themselves at 
the table in the great hall while the rest of the school is eating 
together. Obviously after the whole parseltongue revelation.

The bit with Harry, Ron and Hedwig in the car is cute and funny but 
most likely just something thrown in so the kids can scream and have 
a little more excitement on the drive to Hogwarts. <G> 

I wish they'd done more with Gilderoy than just showing his face for 
a second or two, but hopefully the studio will release a different 
trailer closer to opening so we can see more. 

The diary scene is very nicely done. I got a little chill up my spine 
when Harry's written words "Do you know anything about the Chamber of 
Secrets..." disappeared and that "yes" appeared! Even after having 
read that part and knowing it was coming. <g> 

That's all my feeble memory can handle for the time being. Hopefully, 
I'll have the same luck next time I hit the theatre and I'll actually 
take notes. 

And from some other accounts at other boards (stuff I either missed 
or forgot about):

Riddle tells Harry about combining the strength of Slytherin and 
Gryffindor... the line ends with a shot of his hand parting Harry's 
hair to reveal the scar.

They show Snape apparently showing Ron and Harry the picture of the 
flying car in the newspaper.

Lastly:
Someone else mentioned somewhere (and I can't find it now) about 
Harry and Ron confronted by a set of spider legs - at which point 
Harry tells Ron not to panic. (But a panicking Ron is *so* much fun!)

Shelagh 
cub reporter





From Dar20 at aol.com  Mon Jun 17 16:19:06 2002
From: Dar20 at aol.com (darlenebuell)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 16:19:06 -0000
Subject: CoS trailer - here there be trailer spoilers
In-Reply-To: <ael0b4+c43e@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ael25q+g5pl@eGroups.com>

Excellent 'review' of the trailer!  Only thing I wanted to add was 
that the sets for this movie appear they will be just as fabulous as 
the chess game set.  Bigger than life!  

Dar




From joyw at gwu.edu  Mon Jun 17 18:20:36 2002
From: joyw at gwu.edu (- Joy -)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 14:20:36 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] CoS trailer - here there be trailer spoilers
References: <ael0b4+c43e@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <005e01c2162b$ad9f53a0$53263244@nrockv01.md.comcast.net>

Has anyone been able to figure out what that skeleton was doing in the
trailer?  It looks like the same one that was in Quirrell's DADA classroom,
but I can't for the life of me place it in the CoS storyline.  Do you think
it's another addition?  Or am I missing something?

~Joy~







From editor at texas.net  Mon Jun 17 19:28:44 2002
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 14:28:44 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] CoS trailer - here there be trailer spoilers
References: <ael0b4+c43e@eGroups.com> <005e01c2162b$ad9f53a0$53263244@nrockv01.md.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001401c21635$32ca6d40$a07763d1@texas.net>

Joy asked

> Has anyone been able to figure out what that skeleton was doing in the
> trailer?  It looks like the same one that was in Quirrell's DADA
classroom,
> but I can't for the life of me place it in the CoS storyline.  Do you
think
> it's another addition?  Or am I missing something?

Well, Harry did a detention in Lockhart's office, and one supposes it is
adjunct to the DADA classroom....that's all I can think of, that would put
the skeleton onscreen. I haven't seen the trailer yet, this is purest
conjecture.

--Amanda, who *wishes* she could post trailer spoilers *rrrrgh*






From doliesl at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 17 19:51:09 2002
From: doliesl at yahoo.com (doliesl)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 19:51:09 -0000
Subject: Dueling picture
In-Reply-To: <5A6A022C0A@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <aelejd+hsvi@eGroups.com>

> In the background of the picture of Draco and Harry 
> dueling, there's a....gizmo.  Could that possibly be the 
> thing that keeps track of the house points?  Very cool if 
> it is.

That's the House Point counter. Noticed the green vessel (Slytherin) 
has more than half of what the other 3 vessels has.
They have that in the 1st movie too but never "close up", I only 
found this out in the video games.







From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Mon Jun 17 20:45:14 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 21:45:14 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] CoS trailer - here there be trailer spoilers
References: <ael0b4+c43e@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <010301c2163f$e1b3c180$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

May I propose (and incur the wrath of the illustrious and hard working moderators) on behalf of thsoe of us in the UK who don't frequent the cinemas as much as we should, so don't know if the trailer is out here yet, a vote of thanks for the detailed and enlightening cub report.

Felicia
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: shelaghcol 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 4:47 PM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] CoS trailer - here there be trailer spoilers


  I got lucky - got to see the trailer twice because of some very nice 
  people at the movie theatre. (It pays to make sure management knows 
  you've seen Lord of the Rings 26 times. Probably didn't hurt I was 
  wearing a Harry Potter T-shirt either. ;-> ) 

  Moving on (this is in no particular order, just as I'm remembering 
  things from the trailer): 

  Daniel's voice is totally unrecognizable! If I hadn't known him by 
  the face (albeit a definitely older one) I *never* would have known 
  it was his. 

  The three of them seem to have grown almost the same proportionately. 
  Very convenient. <g> 

  btw, they used the same music as with the trailer for SS/PS and 
  simply worked the whole trailer around that. A touch lazy, but then 
  I've been spoiled by Howard Shore and Peter Jackson. Nice shots all 
  the same. And it was great to be able to see it twice. 

  Snape looks a bit like he's gained a little weight - actually looked 
  a tad healthier despite the white complexion. And his hair looked a 
  little shorter and fuller. Course that could have just been the 
  lighting. 

  Loved Ron's "Can we panic now?!" at the end. <g> 

  Dumbledore's beard seems a bit.... tamer. (Only way I can think of to 
  describe it.) 

  Loved the bit with the sword (Harry reaching up for it and thrusting 
  it lustily at the sky) - though not having read the last three 
  chapters of CoS I'm not sure if it's true to the book or not. 

  The door to the Chamber was *very* cool with all those snakes and 
  things (yes, I read someone had posted it's much different than 
  what's in the book, but it was still cool <g> ). 

  If the trailer is any indication, the duel between Harry and Draco is 
  going to be *wonderful*! 

  Interesting moment with Ron and Harry sitting all by themselves at 
  the table in the great hall while the rest of the school is eating 
  together. Obviously after the whole parseltongue revelation.

  The bit with Harry, Ron and Hedwig in the car is cute and funny but 
  most likely just something thrown in so the kids can scream and have 
  a little more excitement on the drive to Hogwarts. <G> 

  I wish they'd done more with Gilderoy than just showing his face for 
  a second or two, but hopefully the studio will release a different 
  trailer closer to opening so we can see more. 

  The diary scene is very nicely done. I got a little chill up my spine 
  when Harry's written words "Do you know anything about the Chamber of 
  Secrets..." disappeared and that "yes" appeared! Even after having 
  read that part and knowing it was coming. <g> 

  That's all my feeble memory can handle for the time being. Hopefully, 
  I'll have the same luck next time I hit the theatre and I'll actually 
  take notes. 

  And from some other accounts at other boards (stuff I either missed 
  or forgot about):

  Riddle tells Harry about combining the strength of Slytherin and 
  Gryffindor... the line ends with a shot of his hand parting Harry's 
  hair to reveal the scar.

  They show Snape apparently showing Ron and Harry the picture of the 
  flying car in the newspaper.

  Lastly:
  Someone else mentioned somewhere (and I can't find it now) about 
  Harry and Ron confronted by a set of spider legs - at which point 
  Harry tells Ron not to panic. (But a panicking Ron is *so* much fun!)

  Shelagh 
  cub reporter



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From ftah3 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 17 15:57:54 2002
From: ftah3 at yahoo.com (ftah3)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 15:57:54 -0000
Subject: CoS trailer - here there be trailer spoilers
In-Reply-To: <ael0b4+c43e@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ael0u2+m2vj@eGroups.com>

I loved the trailer!  And WB's marketing worked on me - I don't think 
I would have made a point to take my son to Scooby Doo without the CoS 
trailer to entice me.  At least, not on opening day.  (Ahem)

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "shelaghcol" <ShelaghC at a...> wrote:
> Loved the bit with the sword (Harry reaching up for it and thrusting 
> it lustily at the sky) - though not having read the last three 
> chapters of CoS I'm not sure if it's true to the book or not. 

You know, I'm thinking that's a scene which will actually have CG 
added later, and I will only say that once you read the last three 
chapters you'll likely glom onto what's missing from the trailer.

> Interesting moment with Ron and Harry sitting all by themselves at 
> the table in the great hall while the rest of the school is eating 
> together. Obviously after the whole parseltongue revelation.

Actually, there's no place in the book that has Harry and Ron sitting 
apart from everyone else during a meal in the Great Hall as a result 
of the parseltongue thing; but there *is* a scene during a Christmas 
holiday meal when Harry & Ron sit apart from everyone else because 
they want to discuss the polyjuice scheme without anyone listening in. 
 :P  My guess is that's the scene we saw in the trailer.

> The diary scene is very nicely done. I got a little chill up my 
spine 
> when Harry's written words "Do you know anything about the Chamber 
of 
> Secrets..." disappeared and that "yes" appeared! Even after having 
> read that part and knowing it was coming. <g> 

Ooh, that *was* very nifty!  And the bit with Tom - whee!

Weighing in on Dobby - I didn't mind how he looked; the only thing I 
really noticed that seemed off about him is that he didn't sound half 
as spastic as I imagined him.  I can't envision that CGI'd Dobby 
banging his head against the wall every other sentence, really....  
But I'm not pre-judging too fiercely, because that *was* only Dobby's 
first line to Harry.  Plenty of time for him to become hysterical.  :)

Mahoney
re-lurking





From AfolcfkaJL at aol.com  Tue Jun 18 01:19:00 2002
From: AfolcfkaJL at aol.com (AfolcfkaJL at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 21:19:00 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] CoS trailer - here there be trailer spoilers
Message-ID: <172.9e1bdf8.2a3fe484@aol.com>


  Shelagh, cub reporter, :-) thanks for the summary of the trailer. It's 
really appreciated. I caught it when I took my nephew to see scooby-doo and I 
must agree, COS looks damn good.  




From whatev at over-the-rainbow.com  Sun Jun 16 15:59:27 2002
From: whatev at over-the-rainbow.com (frabjabulous)
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 15:59:27 -0000
Subject: COS trailer in Canada?
Message-ID: <aeickv+mb6v@eGroups.com>

Hey y'all, I'm wondering if I should go see Scooby Doo... was the COS trailer going to be released w/ it in Canada? I remember when I went to see LOTR in the states (California) it had completely different trailers than it did in Canada (Nova Scotia). So does anyone know if that's going to happen with HP2/Scooby?





From nee1 at worldnet.att.net  Thu Jun 13 23:32:19 2002
From: nee1 at worldnet.att.net (Renee Gunn)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 18:32:19 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Annoyed at Warner Bros
References: <aeba2i+im1e@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c21332$b072c7c0$ac7afea9@oemcomputer>

Actually I think that its only going to be a teaser trailer in front of Scooby Doo too.  I could be wrong. 

Renee



  Is anyone else incredibly annoyed at Warner Bros. for releasing only 
  30 seconds of the trailer and then saying "Go see Scooby Doo to see 
  the rest"???  


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From saitaina at wizzards.net  Wed Jun 19 18:27:41 2002
From: saitaina at wizzards.net (Saitaina)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 11:27:41 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Annoyed at Warner Bros
References: <aeba2i+im1e@eGroups.com> <000b01c21332$b072c7c0$ac7afea9@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <00e101c217be$fff88f60$1b4e28d1@oemcomputer>

Renee wrote:

<Actually I think that its only going to be a teaser trailer in front of Scooby Doo too.  I could be wrong. >

You are wrong.  (sorry, I do hate to say that).  The full trailer was released in front of Scooby Doo.  Any body else wish the full length trailer was I don't know...thirty minutes long? :o)

Saitaina
*****
Cordelia: It's kinda like a puzzle -- the Who Died Horribly Because Angel Screwed Up 50 Years Ago Game?

Denver: They keep calling her a zany redhead. Could be a brunette for all I can tell. Guess I'll just have to take their word for it.

Angel: It's been a long time since I've opened a vein, but I'll do it you pull any more of that Van Helsing Jr. crap with me. Are we clear?

Thesulac: There's an entire hotel here just full of tortured souls who could really use your help. Whaddya say?
Angel: Take 'em all.

Wesley: I've been accused of a great many things in my time, but paranoid has never been one of them. Unless people have been saying it behind my back.

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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Wed Jun 19 18:27:54 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 19:27:54 +0100
Subject: Very Annoyed at Warner Bros
References: <aeba2i+im1e@eGroups.com> <000b01c21332$b072c7c0$ac7afea9@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <008701c217bf$07273e80$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

To be honest (and here in the UK I don't THINK it's been released yet), I would not spend money to see a tiny trailer if I did not want to see the other film.  
It seems dishonest AND a vote of no-confidence in Scooby Doo that they need to protect its opening in this way.  I don't do much cinema and would not go all the way into London just for a few seconds oftrailer.  Sorry - I love HP, all the books and the last film but I think I can glean enough about what's going on to live without a trailer.

Felicia



Actually I think that its only going to be a teaser trailer in front of Scooby Doo too.  I could be wrong. 

Renee


  Is anyone else incredibly annoyed at Warner Bros. for releasing only 
  30 seconds of the trailer and then saying "Go see Scooby Doo to see 
  the rest"???  



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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Wed Jun 19 18:56:24 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 19:56:24 +0100
Subject: British Trailer release date
References: <1D55C363E8@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu> <008d01c20919$b6129a20$5a7d63d1@texas.net>
Message-ID: <00aa01c217c3$0273cbc0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

This is a link for the British film details courtesty of the BBC.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/film/newsid_2042000/2042773.stm

Felicia


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From mejikaus at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 19 22:38:04 2002
From: mejikaus at yahoo.com (mejikaus)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 22:38:04 -0000
Subject: Trailer showing on T.V. (help!)
Message-ID: <aer14c+s7ke@eGroups.com>

>From The Leaky Cauldron they posted when they would show the full 
Trailer on Satellite. 
 

North Amereican Satellite Distribution of the CoS Trailer

Wednesday, June 19th 2002:
1.) 9:00 - 9:15PM EASTERN

Thursday, June 20th 2002:
2.) 5:00 - 5:15AM EASTERN

3.) 10:00 - 10:15AM EASTERN

COORDINATES FOR ALL FEEDS:
Telstar 5 [C-Band] Transponder 01
Downlink Frequency: 3720 Vertical
Audio: 6.20/ 6.80 


I don't understand how to see the trailer. Do you have to pay for it? 
If anyone can understand this, please help me!

Also, they might show the trailer on Access Hollywood, Extra, E!, and 
Entertainment Tonight.



 
 




From richasi at azlance.com  Wed Jun 19 22:54:58 2002
From: richasi at azlance.com (Richasi)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 18:54:58 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Trailer showing on T.V. (help!)
In-Reply-To: <aer14c+s7ke@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000601c217e4$567e5f20$e6d51b18@cfl.rr.com>


> From: mejikaus [mailto:mejikaus at yahoo.com]
> COORDINATES FOR ALL FEEDS:
> Telstar 5 [C-Band] Transponder 01
> Downlink Frequency: 3720 Vertical
> Audio: 6.20/ 6.80
> I don't understand how to see the trailer. Do you have to pay for it?
> If anyone can understand this, please help me!

You need to have a C-Band Satellite Dish, usually a large black-mesh
dish in your back yard. Telstar-5 is the satellite name. Transponder
01 is the channel. Audio: 6.2/6.8 are the audio "channels" of that
transponder. Telstar-5 is located at 97 degrees West. If you don't
have a moving satellite dish, you won't be able to see it.

Richasi.





From jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu  Thu Jun 20 00:10:59 2002
From: jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu (Jennifer Prescott)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 17:10:59 -0700
Subject: PS/SS vs CoS Trailer/Promo
References: <000601c217e4$567e5f20$e6d51b18@cfl.rr.com>
Message-ID: <3D111D93.49C46703@ka.reg.uci.edu>

Sadly, I never saw the trailer for PS/SS until I
got the DVD last month.  Did they show the PS/SS trailer on tv??
What did Warner Bros. do to promote PS/SS that they aren't doing for
CoS?  
I think someone said that the trailer came out fairly early in the year 
for PS/SS, but what else was done?  I guess you could say I'm much more
obsessed 
with "Harry Potter" now than I was last year!  What are we missing out
on with CoS
in regard to promotional techniques?

Cheers,
Jenny

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From saitaina at wizzards.net  Thu Jun 20 00:49:10 2002
From: saitaina at wizzards.net (Saitaina)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 17:49:10 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PS/SS vs CoS Trailer/Promo
References: <000601c217e4$567e5f20$e6d51b18@cfl.rr.com> <3D111D93.49C46703@ka.reg.uci.edu>
Message-ID: <001e01c217f4$4b2266c0$174e28d1@oemcomputer>

Jenny wrote: 

<What did Warner Bros. do to promote PS/SS that they aren't doing for
CoS?>

They had around ten "different" trailers for PS/SS.  Three theatrical trailers (released both on the web and in theatres) and few television promotional trailers.  All were released in some form on the web, the three theatrical before they were released in theatres.  

Beyond just the trailers there was the merchandise tie-ins for PS/SS that they do not have with CoS.  I have several items specifically related to SS but only two related to CoS.  

I can't think of what else there was related to the promotion of the movies specifically but it seemed last year they were building up the movie more then they are this one which doesn't make sense.  Sure they would try to build up the first movie but the second one is which will prove weather future movies will succeed or fail.  The first of any series is the best seller, sells drop off more for the second and third (and so on).  

Oh well.

Saitaina
*****
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Denver: They keep calling her a zany redhead. Could be a brunette for all I can tell. Guess I'll just have to take their word for it.

Angel: It's been a long time since I've opened a vein, but I'll do it you pull any more of that Van Helsing Jr. crap with me. Are we clear?

Thesulac: There's an entire hotel here just full of tortured souls who could really use your help. Whaddya say?
Angel: Take 'em all.

Wesley: I've been accused of a great many things in my time, but paranoid has never been one of them. Unless people have been saying it behind my back.

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From hermione_heidi at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 20 03:38:39 2002
From: hermione_heidi at hotmail.com (Heidi Henshaw)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 00:38:39 -0300
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re:COS trailer in Canada?
Message-ID: <F137yt3cew8k69RKLpg0000afbf@hotmail.com>

First of all I must say I too am from Nova Scotia, small world eh!
  Yes they are playing it at Empire I know they are in Bayers Lake cause 
when I read the paper opeining weekend, it was actually advertised as a 
reason for going to see Scobby.  What I am wondering is how long they will 
keep playing it? Because I remember when I saw Hp the first time on opening 
night is had the preview for Attack of the Clones but did not the 
subsenquent times that I saw it. Does anyone know?
It might also be that on Empire theaters are playing it?

Original Message From Frabjabulous:

>Hey y'all, I'm wondering if I should go see Scooby Doo... was the COS 
>trailer going to be released w/ it in Canada? I remember when I went to see 
>LOTR in the states (California) it had completely different trailers than 
>it did in Canada (Nova Scotia). So does anyone know if that's going to 
>happen with HP2/Scooby?
>
>




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From joyw at gwu.edu  Thu Jun 20 03:44:12 2002
From: joyw at gwu.edu (- Joy -)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 23:44:12 -0400
Subject: The Trailer is Online!
References: <F137yt3cew8k69RKLpg0000afbf@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <018d01c2180c$be4ebaa0$53263244@nrockv01.md.comcast.net>

Yay!  Go to http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/ for links to it.  They're in
the June 19 entry.  I'm off to scrutinize mine frame by frame. <cackles with
glee>

~Joy~







From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Thu Jun 20 17:49:49 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 18:49:49 +0100
Subject: The Trailer is Online! Oh Yes!  Yipee!!!
References: <F137yt3cew8k69RKLpg0000afbf@hotmail.com> <018d01c2180c$be4ebaa0$53263244@nrockv01.md.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <009901c21882$e1542b40$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

I wish I could slow mine down, there's not enough Snape time (darn!)

Fabulous trailer though.

Felicia

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: - Joy - 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 4:44 AM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] The Trailer is Online!


  Yay!  Go to http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/ for links to it.  They're in
  the June 19 entry.  I'm off to scrutinize mine frame by frame. <cackles with
  glee>

  ~Joy~





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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Thu Jun 20 17:54:15 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 18:54:15 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] The Trailer is Online!
References: <F137yt3cew8k69RKLpg0000afbf@hotmail.com> <018d01c2180c$be4ebaa0$53263244@nrockv01.md.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <00a901c21883$7fbefa80$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Can you save these things to disc??

Felicia

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: - Joy - 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 4:44 AM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] The Trailer is Online!


  Yay!  Go to http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/ for links to it.  They're in
  the June 19 entry.  I'm off to scrutinize mine frame by frame. <cackles with
  glee>

  ~Joy~





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From ShelaghC at aol.com  Thu Jun 20 18:12:52 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 18:12:52 -0000
Subject: The Trailer is Online!
In-Reply-To: <00a901c21883$7fbefa80$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <aet5v4+obhk@eGroups.com>

Just right mouse-click on the link itself and it'll download into 
your computer.

Shelagh
livtaserve


--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Felicia Rickmann" <feliciarickmann at d...> 
wrote:
> Can you save these things to disc??
> 
> Felicia
> 





From ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk  Thu Jun 20 18:13:23 2002
From: ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin Hooper)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 19:13:23 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] The Trailer is Online!
In-Reply-To: <00a901c21883$7fbefa80$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
References: <F137yt3cew8k69RKLpg0000afbf@hotmail.com>
 <018d01c2180c$be4ebaa0$53263244@nrockv01.md.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020620191238.00a028b0@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>

At 18:54 20/06/02, you wrote:
>Can you save these things to disc??


Yeah you can - Right click on the link that matches your connection speed 
and then click on Save As...

It will be worded differently on differen't browsers though...


Martin J Hooper
http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602


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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Thu Jun 20 18:12:54 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 19:12:54 +0100
Subject: The Trailer is Online! TA
References: <F137yt3cew8k69RKLpg0000afbf@hotmail.com> <018d01c2180c$be4ebaa0$53263244@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20020620191238.00a028b0@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <00c101c21886$18f3a460$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Martint

Did I tell you you walk on water!!

Felicia
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Martin Hooper 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 7:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] The Trailer is Online!


  At 18:54 20/06/02, you wrote:
  >Can you save these things to disc??


  Yeah you can - Right click on the link that matches your connection speed 
  and then click on Save As...

  It will be worded differently on differen't browsers though...


  Martin J Hooper
  http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
  AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602


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From jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu  Thu Jun 20 18:24:14 2002
From: jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu (Jennifer Prescott)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 11:24:14 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] The Trailer is Online!
References: <F137yt3cew8k69RKLpg0000afbf@hotmail.com>
	 <018d01c2180c$be4ebaa0$53263244@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20020620191238.00a028b0@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <3D121DCE.D2912BD6@ka.reg.uci.edu>

That technique doesn't work -- not for me, anyway.  It just saves the
link.
I tried with Netscape and IE....



Martin Hooper wrote:
> 
> At 18:54 20/06/02, you wrote:
> >Can you save these things to disc??
> 
> Yeah you can - Right click on the link that matches your connection speed
> and then click on Save As...
> 
> It will be worded differently on differen't browsers though...
> 
> Martin J Hooper
> http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
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> 
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From ShelaghC at aol.com  Thu Jun 20 18:24:20 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 18:24:20 -0000
Subject: The Trailer is Online!
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020620191238.00a028b0@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <aet6kk+q3eg@eGroups.com>

Beatcha to the punch, Martin! <g>

So if Martin walks on water, what does that mean I do?

;->

Shelagh
thinking wings would be keen


--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Martin Hooper <ch001d4564 at b...> wrote:
> At 18:54 20/06/02, you wrote:
> >Can you save these things to disc??
> 
> 
> Yeah you can - Right click on the link that matches your connection 
speed 
> and then click on Save As...
> 
> It will be worded differently on differen't browsers though...
> 
> 
> Martin J Hooper
> http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Thu Jun 20 18:23:20 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 19:23:20 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The Trailer is Online!
References: <aet6kk+q3eg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00d801c21887$8fe81b40$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Broomstick!

Felicia
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: shelaghcol 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 7:24 PM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The Trailer is Online!


  Beatcha to the punch, Martin! <g>

  So if Martin walks on water, what does that mean I do?

  ;->

  Shelagh
  thinking wings would be keen


  --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Martin Hooper <ch001d4564 at b...> wrote:
  > At 18:54 20/06/02, you wrote:
  > >Can you save these things to disc??
  > 
  > 
  > Yeah you can - Right click on the link that matches your connection 
  speed 
  > and then click on Save As...
  > 
  > It will be worded differently on differen't browsers though...
  > 
  > 
  > Martin J Hooper
  > http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
  > AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602
  > 
  > 
  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Thu Jun 20 18:25:13 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 19:25:13 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The Trailer is Online!
References: <aet6kk+q3eg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00de01c21887$d314c300$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Felicia would like to apologise (grovellingly) for the frighteningly brief post she just made-  She pressed the wrong key in her excitement without adding a postscript.  Blame Snape......

I am now going to try (again) to save my video as suggested - it didn't work before.

Felicia
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: shelaghcol 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 7:24 PM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The Trailer is Online!


  Beatcha to the punch, Martin! <g>

  So if Martin walks on water, what does that mean I do?

  ;->

  Shelagh
  thinking wings would be keen


  --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Martin Hooper <ch001d4564 at b...> wrote:
  > At 18:54 20/06/02, you wrote:
  > >Can you save these things to disc??
  > 
  > 
  > Yeah you can - Right click on the link that matches your connection 
  speed 
  > and then click on Save As...
  > 
  > It will be worded differently on differen't browsers though...
  > 
  > 
  > Martin J Hooper
  > http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
  > AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602
  > 
  > 
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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Thu Jun 20 18:27:59 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 19:27:59 +0100
Subject: The Trailer is Online! Now catch it.....
References: <F137yt3cew8k69RKLpg0000afbf@hotmail.com> <018d01c2180c$be4ebaa0$53263244@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20020620191238.00a028b0@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk> <3D121DCE.D2912BD6@ka.reg.uci.edu>
Message-ID: <00e901c21888$34a45900$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Right - I have got as far as freezing the frame - no problem - but it won't save.  What have You got on your machine that I haven't OR I am using Quicktime does it work better with mediaplayer or realtime?

Felicia
Apologising once again for her excitable broomstick post!




  That technique doesn't work -- not for me, anyway.  It just saves the
  link.
  I tried with Netscape and IE....



  Martin Hooper wrote:
  > 
  > At 18:54 20/06/02, you wrote:
  > >Can you save these things to disc??
  > 
  > Yeah you can - Right click on the link that matches your connection speed
  > and then click on Save As...
  > 
  > It will be worded differently on differen't browsers though...
  > 
  > Martin J Hooper
  > http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
  > AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602
  > 
  > 


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From ShelaghC at aol.com  Thu Jun 20 18:32:40 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 18:32:40 -0000
Subject: The Trailer is Online! Now catch it.....
In-Reply-To: <00e901c21888$34a45900$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <aet748+ik99@eGroups.com>

Felicia, send me your email address and which size you prefer and 
I'll try to email it to you.

I have one of each. ;->

Shelagh
wondering what the latest broomstick models are and if she has enough 
Galleons to pay the price


--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Felicia Rickmann" <feliciarickmann at d...> 
wrote:
> Right - I have got as far as freezing the frame - no problem - but 
it won't save.  What have You got on your machine that I haven't OR I 
am using Quicktime does it work better with mediaplayer or realtime?
> 
> Felicia
> Apologising once again for her excitable broomstick post!
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   That technique doesn't work -- not for me, anyway.  It just saves 
the
>   link.
>   I tried with Netscape and IE....
> 
> 
> 
>   Martin Hooper wrote:
>   > 
>   > At 18:54 20/06/02, you wrote:
>   > >Can you save these things to disc??
>   > 
>   > Yeah you can - Right click on the link that matches your 
connection speed
>   > and then click on Save As...
>   > 
>   > It will be worded differently on differen't browsers though...
>   > 
>   > Martin J Hooper
>   > http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>   > AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602
>   > 
>   > 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk  Thu Jun 20 18:36:36 2002
From: ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin Hooper)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 19:36:36 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] The Trailer is Online!
In-Reply-To: <3D121DCE.D2912BD6@ka.reg.uci.edu>
References: <F137yt3cew8k69RKLpg0000afbf@hotmail.com>
 <018d01c2180c$be4ebaa0$53263244@nrockv01.md.comcast.net>
 <5.1.0.14.0.20020620191238.00a028b0@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020620193531.009f2750@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>

At 19:24 20/06/02, you wrote:
>That technique doesn't work -- not for me, anyway.  It just saves the
>link.
>I tried with Netscape and IE....

Hmmm should work with most browsers...

In IE it is Save Target As...

Not sure of Netscape not got a copy installed.


Martin J Hooper
http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602


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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Thu Jun 20 18:35:33 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 19:35:33 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The Trailer is Online! Now catch it.....
References: <aet748+ik99@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00f801c21889$44a14100$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

We have broadband here at home I can take the biggest size available!!!!

Felicia

Who now has two people who walk on water!
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: shelaghcol 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 7:32 PM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The Trailer is Online! Now catch it.....


  Felicia, send me your email address and which size you prefer and 
  I'll try to email it to you.

  I have one of each. ;->

  Shelagh
  wondering what the latest broomstick models are and if she has enough 
  Galleons to pay the price


  --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Felicia Rickmann" <feliciarickmann at d...> 
  wrote:
  > Right - I have got as far as freezing the frame - no problem - but 
  it won't save.  What have You got on your machine that I haven't OR I 
  am using Quicktime does it work better with mediaplayer or realtime?
  > 
  > Felicia
  > Apologising once again for her excitable broomstick post!
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  >   That technique doesn't work -- not for me, anyway.  It just saves 
  the
  >   link.
  >   I tried with Netscape and IE....
  > 
  > 
  > 
  >   Martin Hooper wrote:
  >   > 
  >   > At 18:54 20/06/02, you wrote:
  >   > >Can you save these things to disc??
  >   > 
  >   > Yeah you can - Right click on the link that matches your 
  connection speed
  >   > and then click on Save As...
  >   > 
  >   > It will be worded differently on differen't browsers though...
  >   > 
  >   > Martin J Hooper
  >   > http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
  >   > AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602
  >   > 
  >   > 
  > 
  > 
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From jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu  Thu Jun 20 18:44:12 2002
From: jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu (Jennifer Prescott)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 11:44:12 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The Trailer is Online! Now catch it.....
References: <aet748+ik99@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3D12227C.2BC92454@ka.reg.uci.edu>

no, it definitely doesn't work for me.  I just get the link when i try
to download.
Can someone send it to me too, please??  (hmm.. i sound desparate. haha)



shelaghcol wrote:
> 
> Felicia, send me your email address and which size you prefer and
> I'll try to email it to you.
> 
> I have one of each. ;->
> 
> Shelagh
> wondering what the latest broomstick models are and if she has enough
> Galleons to pay the price
> 
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Felicia Rickmann" <feliciarickmann at d...>
> wrote:
> > Right - I have got as far as freezing the frame - no problem - but
> it won't save.  What have You got on your machine that I haven't OR I
> am using Quicktime does it work better with mediaplayer or realtime?
> >
> > Felicia
> > Apologising once again for her excitable broomstick post!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   That technique doesn't work -- not for me, anyway.  It just saves
> the
> >   link.
> >   I tried with Netscape and IE....
> >
> >
> >
> >   Martin Hooper wrote:
> >   >
> >   > At 18:54 20/06/02, you wrote:
> >   > >Can you save these things to disc??
> >   >
> >   > Yeah you can - Right click on the link that matches your
> connection speed
> >   > and then click on Save As...
> >   >
> >   > It will be worded differently on differen't browsers though...
> >   >
> >   > Martin J Hooper
> >   > http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> >   > AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602
> >   >
> >   >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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From ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk  Thu Jun 20 19:02:36 2002
From: ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin Hooper)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:02:36 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The Trailer is Online! Now catch it.....
In-Reply-To: <3D12227C.2BC92454@ka.reg.uci.edu>
References: <aet748+ik99@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020620200117.009f4ca0@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>

At 19:44 20/06/02, you wrote:
>no, it definitely doesn't work for me.  I just get the link when i try
>to download.
>Can someone send it to me too, please??  (hmm.. i sound desparate. haha)

Jennifer - and anyone else who can't get it I have the 24Mb version on my 
ftp server...

ftp://mat:mat at martinjh.dnsalias.com/ftp/hpcstrailer.mov



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From draco382 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 20 12:59:11 2002
From: draco382 at yahoo.com (draco382)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 12:59:11 -0000
Subject: The Trailer is Online! (with minor spoiler)
In-Reply-To: <018d01c2180c$be4ebaa0$53263244@nrockv01.md.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <aesjiv+nv4h@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., - Joy - <joyw at g...> wrote:
> Yay!  Go to http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/ for links to it.  
They're in
> the June 19 entry.  I'm off to scrutinize mine frame by frame. 
<cackles with
> glee>
> 
> ~Joy~



Wheee!  That was fun!  So Warner Bros. pulled through and I don't 
have to watch Scooby Doo.  Hey, that rhymed!  Okay, anyway, I have 
one question.  I don't remember that scene with the dinosaur bones 
collapsing...can anyone refresh my memory and tell me where that 
happens in CoS?  (I don't have the book at home with me...)

Thanks!

~draco382, who is still jumping around the house a-whoopin' and a-
hollerin' at 6 in the morning.





From ickle_ronniekins at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 20 15:26:46 2002
From: ickle_ronniekins at yahoo.com (ickle_ronniekins)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 15:26:46 -0000
Subject: Chamber Trailer Nitpicking
Message-ID: <aess7m+5j9m@eGroups.com>

Ok, the Chamber trailer is really good, but...

1. Where's the squeaky Dobby voice?

2. Why did the car have to be in front of the train? I like the humor 
of the situation but aren't Harry and Ron supposed to be keeping out 
of sight up above?

3. I think there still won't be a Prof. Binns in this movie... it 
seems that McGonagall is doing the explaining of the Chamber legend 
to the students.

4. Who's that lying petrified guy? Obviously not Nearly Headless 
Nick -- too opaque. Not Colin -- black hair. Penelope and Hermione 
are girls. Justin is the only possibility left, but I think he's too 
big and adult-looking for a 12-year old.

5. The writing on the wall -- this was pointed out before on the-
leaky-cauldron.org: it's too high for Ginny, the letters are red 
instead of silver, and the childish writing is a bit of a giveaway.

6. I really think that the Gray Lady, being given much exposure in 
the movies, will play some important role in the later books.

7. What spell did Draco do on Harry?

-Ron Yu





From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Thu Jun 20 19:56:01 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:56:01 +0100
Subject: The Trailer is Online!
References: <aesjiv+nv4h@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <015101c21894$80f10220$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

I'm still trying to work that one out having just read book one in German I am still comign back to the real world and reading Azkaban for a change....

Off to ferret for book after I have saved my trailer to cd........

Felicia
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: draco382 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 1:59 PM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The Trailer is Online! (with minor spoiler)


  --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., - Joy - <joyw at g...> wrote:
  > Yay!  Go to http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/ for links to it.  
  They're in
  > the June 19 entry.  I'm off to scrutinize mine frame by frame. 
  <cackles with
  > glee>
  > 
  > ~Joy~



  Wheee!  That was fun!  So Warner Bros. pulled through and I don't 
  have to watch Scooby Doo.  Hey, that rhymed!  Okay, anyway, I have 
  one question.  I don't remember that scene with the dinosaur bones 
  collapsing...can anyone refresh my memory and tell me where that 
  happens in CoS?  (I don't have the book at home with me...)

  Thanks!

  ~draco382, who is still jumping around the house a-whoopin' and a-
  hollerin' at 6 in the morning.



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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Thu Jun 20 19:59:47 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:59:47 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Chamber Trailer Nitpicking
References: <aess7m+5j9m@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <017101c21895$07c8f780$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

5. The writing on the wall -- this was pointed out before on the-
leaky-cauldron.org: it's too high for Ginny, the letters are red 
instead of silver, and the childish writing is a bit of a giveaway.

If Riddle could possess Ginny I am sure it would not be too much of a hardship to use a little Wingardium Leviosa or some such to levitate her above her usual height 0 also throwing others of the scent of a little person.

Felicia




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From ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk  Thu Jun 20 20:12:12 2002
From: ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin Hooper)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:12:12 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Chamber Trailer Nitpicking
In-Reply-To: <aess7m+5j9m@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020620211130.00a0a650@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>

At 16:26 20/06/02, you wrote:
>5. The writing on the wall -- this was pointed out before on the-
>leaky-cauldron.org: it's too high for Ginny, the letters are red
>instead of silver, and the childish writing is a bit of a giveaway.

Ron - I don't think Ginny is in it :(  It's Harry whose writing in the diary...

We shall see how that works out.


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http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
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From jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu  Thu Jun 20 20:17:43 2002
From: jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu (Jennifer Prescott)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 13:17:43 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Chamber Trailer Nitpicking
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020620211130.00a0a650@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <3D123867.F5B595B8@ka.reg.uci.edu>

No, Ginny is in it... I think.
They've said that Bonnie Wright (?) is playing Ginny again and will have
a bigger part than she did in PS/SS, where she only muttered "Good
Luck."  I think that Ginny will be in the movie... if not, then I'll be
disappointed.
Gotta love the Weasley's. :)



Martin Hooper wrote:
> 
> At 16:26 20/06/02, you wrote:
> >5. The writing on the wall -- this was pointed out before on the-
> >leaky-cauldron.org: it's too high for Ginny, the letters are red
> >instead of silver, and the childish writing is a bit of a giveaway.
> 
> Ron - I don't think Ginny is in it :(  It's Harry whose writing in the diary...
> 
> We shall see how that works out.
> 
> Martin J Hooper
> http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
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From ShelaghC at aol.com  Thu Jun 20 20:22:35 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:22:35 -0000
Subject: The Trailer is Online!
In-Reply-To: <015101c21894$80f10220$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <aetdib+em4o@eGroups.com>

Does that mean it came through intact?

Just wondering since I hadn't heard from you.

Shelagh


--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Felicia Rickmann" <feliciarickmann at d...> 
wrote:
> I'm still trying to work that one out having just read book one in 
German I am still comign back to the real world and reading Azkaban 
for a change....
> 
> Off to ferret for book after I have saved my trailer to cd........
> 
> Felicia
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: draco382 
>   To: HPFGU-Movie at y... 
>   Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 1:59 PM
>   Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The Trailer is Online! (with minor 
spoiler)
> 
> 
>   --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., - Joy - <joyw at g...> wrote:
>   > Yay!  Go to http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/ for links to 
it.  
>   They're in
>   > the June 19 entry.  I'm off to scrutinize mine frame by frame. 
>   <cackles with
>   > glee>
>   > 
>   > ~Joy~
> 
> 
> 
>   Wheee!  That was fun!  So Warner Bros. pulled through and I don't 
>   have to watch Scooby Doo.  Hey, that rhymed!  Okay, anyway, I 
have 
>   one question.  I don't remember that scene with the dinosaur 
bones 
>   collapsing...can anyone refresh my memory and tell me where that 
>   happens in CoS?  (I don't have the book at home with me...)
> 
>   Thanks!
> 
>   ~draco382, who is still jumping around the house a-whoopin' and a-
>   hollerin' at 6 in the morning.
> 
> 
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From nee1 at worldnet.att.net  Thu Jun 20 20:22:46 2002
From: nee1 at worldnet.att.net (trinity_songweaver)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:22:46 -0000
Subject: Annoyed at Warner Bros
In-Reply-To: <00e101c217be$fff88f60$1b4e28d1@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <aetdim+9cqk@eGroups.com>

yeah... I know... before the movie was released I misread the sight 
and though it was the 30 second trailer being released to, which is 
why I made the comment I did before the movie was released, last 
thursday.  I've seen the trailer in the theater now 4 times.  :-D  
And yeah, I do wish it were longer. 

Nee



--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Saitaina" <saitaina at w...> wrote:
> Renee wrote:
> 
> <Actually I think that its only going to be a teaser trailer in 
front of Scooby Doo too.  I could be wrong. >
> 
> You are wrong.  (sorry, I do hate to say that).  The full trailer 
was released in front of Scooby Doo.  Any body else wish the full 
length trailer was I don't know...thirty minutes long? :o)
> 
> Saitaina
> *****
> Cordelia: It's kinda like a puzzle -- the Who Died Horribly Because 
Angel Screwed Up 50 Years Ago Game?
> 
> Denver: They keep calling her a zany redhead. Could be a brunette 
for all I can tell. Guess I'll just have to take their word for it.
> 
> Angel: It's been a long time since I've opened a vein, but I'll do 
it you pull any more of that Van Helsing Jr. crap with me. Are we 
clear?
> 
> Thesulac: There's an entire hotel here just full of tortured souls 
who could really use your help. Whaddya say?
> Angel: Take 'em all.
> 
> Wesley: I've been accused of a great many things in my time, but 
paranoid has never been one of them. Unless people have been saying 
it behind my back.
> 
> -"Are you no or have you ever been"
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Thu Jun 20 20:38:04 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:38:04 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Chamber Trailer Nitpicking
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020620211130.00a0a650@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <004301c2189a$60d50a80$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Ah but Ginny is the one who pours her heart out to Tom before the penny drops and she realises what she is doing.

Felicia

off to download the trailer....
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Martin Hooper 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 9:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Chamber Trailer Nitpicking


  At 16:26 20/06/02, you wrote:
  >5. The writing on the wall -- this was pointed out before on the-
  >leaky-cauldron.org: it's too high for Ginny, the letters are red
  >instead of silver, and the childish writing is a bit of a giveaway.

  Ron - I don't think Ginny is in it :(  It's Harry whose writing in the diary...

  We shall see how that works out.


  Martin J Hooper
  http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
  AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602


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From ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk  Thu Jun 20 20:43:30 2002
From: ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin Hooper)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:43:30 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Chamber Trailer Nitpicking
In-Reply-To: <3D123867.F5B595B8@ka.reg.uci.edu>
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020620211130.00a0a650@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020620214238.00a1b5b0@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>

At 21:17 20/06/02, you wrote:
>No, Ginny is in it... I think.
>They've said that Bonnie Wright (?) is playing Ginny again and will have
>a bigger part than she did in PS/SS, where she only muttered "Good
>Luck."  I think that Ginny will be in the movie... if not, then I'll be
>disappointed.
>Gotta love the Weasley's. :)

Well that OK then!!  Just what struck me from watching the trailer...


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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Thu Jun 20 20:43:48 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:43:48 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Chamber Trailer Nitpicking
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020620211130.00a0a650@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk> <5.1.0.14.0.20020620214238.00a1b5b0@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <009201c2189b$2d9c2300$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Am I allowed to say Tee Hee 'cos I can't get to your server Martin??

Felicia
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Martin Hooper 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 9:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Chamber Trailer Nitpicking


  At 21:17 20/06/02, you wrote:
  >No, Ginny is in it... I think.
  >They've said that Bonnie Wright (?) is playing Ginny again and will have
  >a bigger part than she did in PS/SS, where she only muttered "Good
  >Luck."  I think that Ginny will be in the movie... if not, then I'll be
  >disappointed.
  >Gotta love the Weasley's. :)

  Well that OK then!!  Just what struck me from watching the trailer...


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From ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk  Thu Jun 20 20:47:47 2002
From: ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin Hooper)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:47:47 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Chamber Trailer Nitpicking
In-Reply-To: <009201c2189b$2d9c2300$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020620211130.00a0a650@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>
 <5.1.0.14.0.20020620214238.00a1b5b0@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020620214734.009fb750@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>

At 21:43 20/06/02, you wrote:
>Am I allowed to say Tee Hee 'cos I can't get to your server Martin??

You certainly can... ;)


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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Thu Jun 20 20:56:28 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:56:28 +0100
Subject: AAAAAggh!.
References: <aet748+ik99@eGroups.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20020620200117.009f4ca0@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <010401c2189c$f2abb7e0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Should I have any anything specially open for this stuff?  Now it says it can't find the page using your link below.

Peanut (cat 1 of 5) says I should give up - but I will persevere.

Felicia


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Martin Hooper 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 8:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The Trailer is Online! Now catch it.....


  At 19:44 20/06/02, you wrote:
  >no, it definitely doesn't work for me.  I just get the link when i try
  >to download.
  >Can someone send it to me too, please??  (hmm.. i sound desparate. haha)

  Jennifer - and anyone else who can't get it I have the 24Mb version on my 
  ftp server...

  ftp://mat:mat at martinjh.dnsalias.com/ftp/hpcstrailer.mov



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From ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk  Thu Jun 20 21:02:42 2002
From: ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin Hooper)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 22:02:42 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] AAAAAggh!.
In-Reply-To: <010401c2189c$f2abb7e0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
References: <aet748+ik99@eGroups.com>
 <5.1.0.14.0.20020620200117.009f4ca0@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020620220213.009fb610@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>

At 21:56 20/06/02, you wrote:
>   ftp://mat:mat at martinjh.dnsalias.org/ftp/hpcstrailer.mov

This one should work now...  My fault for posting the wrong one to the 
list... ;)


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From jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu  Thu Jun 20 21:15:41 2002
From: jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu (Jennifer Prescott)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 14:15:41 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] AAAAAggh!.
References: <aet748+ik99@eGroups.com>
	 <5.1.0.14.0.20020620200117.009f4ca0@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk> <5.1.0.14.0.20020620220213.009fb610@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <3D1245FD.EDE12F88@ka.reg.uci.edu>

that one still doesn't work for me... 
Ah well.  I suppose we can just hang out at the harry potter site and
set the file to "loop."
:)

Martin Hooper wrote:
> 
> At 21:56 20/06/02, you wrote:
> >   ftp://mat:mat at martinjh.dnsalias.org/ftp/hpcstrailer.mov
> 
> This one should work now...  My fault for posting the wrong one to the
> list... ;)
> 
> Martin J Hooper
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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Thu Jun 20 21:17:37 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 22:17:37 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] AAAAAggh!.
References: <aet748+ik99@eGroups.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20020620200117.009f4ca0@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk> <5.1.0.14.0.20020620220213.009fb610@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk> <3D1245FD.EDE12F88@ka.reg.uci.edu>
Message-ID: <002301c2189f$e6f55660$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Martins says it works better now 0 give it another go.

Felicia

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jennifer Prescott 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 10:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] AAAAAggh!.


  that one still doesn't work for me... 
  Ah well.  I suppose we can just hang out at the harry potter site and
  set the file to "loop."
  :)

  Martin Hooper wrote:
  > 
  > At 21:56 20/06/02, you wrote:
  > >   ftp://mat:mat at martinjh.dnsalias.org/ftp/hpcstrailer.mov
  > 
  > This one should work now...  My fault for posting the wrong one to the
  > list... ;)
  > 
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  > AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602
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From pennylin at swbell.net  Thu Jun 20 21:55:08 2002
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny Linsenmayer)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 16:55:08 -0500
Subject: ADMIN: No One-Liners!
References: <aet6kk+q3eg@eGroups.com>
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Hi guys --

I too am full of enthusiasm for the CoS trailer but I must remind everyone to avoid one-liners (particularly one-liners that are best directed to one individual rather than the entire list).  

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From caliburncy at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 20 22:02:08 2002
From: caliburncy at yahoo.com (caliburncy)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 22:02:08 -0000
Subject: For People Trying to Save the Trailer to Their Hard Drive
Message-ID: <aetjd0+5t60@eGroups.com>

Hi,

Since there's a lot of people having trouble saving the trailer to 
the hard drive, here are my recommendations.

First of all, Martin, the reason people are having trouble with the 
link you gave to your server is because it has an AT symbol (@) in 
it, which Yahoo!Groups sees and does the little Protect ID thing it 
uses to keep people from viewing other people's e-mail addresses.  
You'd have to put a extra spaces in the link around the AT symbol 
(@), and then have people cut and paste the link, and remove the 
spaces, in order for it to work.

But . . . that probably won't be necessary, because of the following:

For anyone who has already viewed the trailer off the official site, 
it should theoretically have downloaded into your cache (this isn't 
always the case, but it usually is).

Try doing a Find File on your hard drive for the files named *.mov 
(in the case of QuickTime) and see if among the results there is a 
file called hp2_trl1_qt_500.mov or something similar (the last three 
numbers are different if you have a lower quality trailer).  This is 
the Chamber of Secrets trailer, which you can drag from that folder 
to wherever you want to keep it.

Also, if this doesn't work for you, there's another tactic to try.  
Those of you who were having trouble with right-clicking on the link 
and getting a "Save As..." or "Save Target As..." are probably having 
trouble because you are trying to do this at the official site, which 
is programmed in such a way to avoid you're doing this.  Therefore, 
instead go to http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org and scroll down until 
you see where Heidi has put links to each individual QuickTime file 
of the trailer.  Right-click on whatever quality you want, and 
the "Save As..." option should be there.

If all these options don't work, let us know!

-Luke




From ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk  Thu Jun 20 22:10:31 2002
From: ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin Hooper)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 23:10:31 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] For People Trying to Save the Trailer to
  Their Hard Drive
In-Reply-To: <aetjd0+5t60@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020620230951.009fc290@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>

At 23:02 20/06/02, you wrote:
>First of all, Martin, the reason people are having trouble with the
>link you gave to your server is because it has an AT symbol (@) in
>it, which Yahoo!Groups sees and does the little Protect ID thing it
>uses to keep people from viewing other people's e-mail addresses.
>You'd have to put a extra spaces in the link around the AT symbol
>(@), and then have people cut and paste the link, and remove the
>spaces, in order for it to work.

Ahhh that explains it!  I forgot about the way Yahoo displays emails...

Sorry everyone!


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From dkewpie at pacbell.net  Thu Jun 20 22:20:28 2002
From: dkewpie at pacbell.net (kewpiebb99)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 22:20:28 -0000
Subject: Chamber Trailer Nitpicking
In-Reply-To: <aess7m+5j9m@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aetkfc+brs6@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "ickle_ronniekins" <ickle_ronniekins at y...> 
wrote:
> 4. Who's that lying petrified guy? Obviously not Nearly Headless 
> Nick -- too opaque. Not Colin -- black hair. Penelope and Hermione 
> are girls. Justin is the only possibility left, but I think he's 
too 
> big and adult-looking for a 12-year old.

how come everyone (also saw similar assumption in other websites) 
assume that lying person is a victim of Baslisk!?!? He's not even 
petrified! It's so obivous that that's Goyle!  Remember the 
polyjuice? remember he was drugged and got dragged by Harry and they 
hide him in the closet?  Just look at the Trailer frame by frame 
you'll recognized that's Goyle!


Joan




From doliesl at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 20 22:23:59 2002
From: doliesl at yahoo.com (doliesl)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 22:23:59 -0000
Subject: Chamber Trailer Nitpicking
In-Reply-To: <aess7m+5j9m@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aetklv+oao8@eGroups.com>


> 4. Who's that lying petrified guy? Obviously not Nearly Headless 
> Nick -- too opaque. Not Colin -- black hair. Penelope and Hermione 
> are girls. Justin is the only possibility left, but I think he's too 
> big and adult-looking for a 12-year old.

I thought the person being "dragged" by his feet in this scene is Goyle (or Crabbe, when they 
were drugged by the Trio before taking the polyjuice potion), not the petrified students. They 
only put that clip in different context (narration say one thing, but scene shows completely 
different scene, but still works in establishing "suspense' and "danger") 




From dkewpie at pacbell.net  Thu Jun 20 22:26:34 2002
From: dkewpie at pacbell.net (kewpiebb99)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 22:26:34 -0000
Subject: Dinosaur bone (was The Trailer is Online!)
In-Reply-To: <aesjiv+nv4h@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aetkqq+jgtq@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "draco382" <draco382 at y...> wrote:
  Okay, anyway, I have 
> one question.  I don't remember that scene with the dinosaur bones 
> collapsing...can anyone refresh my memory and tell me where that 
> happens in CoS?  (I don't have the book at home with me...)


It's probably the Pixie incident in Lockhart class. That dragon 
skeleton was in Quriell's Classroom in the first movie, logically 
it's Lockhart's classroom in this movie.






From millymarsh at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 20 21:05:10 2002
From: millymarsh at yahoo.com (millymarsh)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:05:10 -0000
Subject: Chamber Trailer Nitpicking
In-Reply-To: <aess7m+5j9m@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aetg26+6cpg@eGroups.com>

My thoughts on the following:

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "ickle_ronniekins" <ickle_ronniekins at y...>
wrote:
<<2. Why did the car have to be in front of the train? I like the
humor of the situation but aren't Harry and Ron supposed to be
keeping out 
of sight up above?>>

I think that it's just one of the sequences of the many that it takes
for the boys to get to Hogwarts. In the book they arrive at night I
believe or at
least around dusk.... so they may show a few more flying car scenes
in the 
movie.

<<3. I think there still won't be a Prof. Binns in this movie... it 
seems that McGonagall is doing the explaining of the Chamber legend 
to the students.>>

I agree about Prof. Binns. I don't think we'll get to "see" this
character:-(

Although, from a film making stand point, it makes sense to not have
to cast another teacher, the audience who is familiar with the movie
version
of the Harry Potter series, will be better able to identify
McGonagall as
she is familiar from the last film.
 
As for the rest of us, who have read the books, maybe they'll have
filmed something that got cut and include it in the DVD... um wait,
better
not go there, eh? (ducking tomatoes)

 
<< 4. Who's that lying petrified guy? Obviously not Nearly Headless
Nick -- too opaque. Not Colin -- black hair. Penelope and Hermione
are girls.
Justin is the only possibility left, but I think he's too big and
adult-looking for a
12-year old.>>

I don't think it's a petrified guy, I think it's either Crabe or
Goyle being dragged away into the closet for their clothes.

> 7. What spell did Draco do on Harry?

Not sure, but the choreography looks pretty fun so far!

Milly Marsh
Santa Monica, CA






From DaveH47 at mindspring.com  Thu Jun 20 23:10:41 2002
From: DaveH47 at mindspring.com (Dave Hardenbrook)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 16:10:41 -0700
Subject: Comments on the trailer
In-Reply-To: <1024605817.25648.60188.m6@yahoogroups.com>
References: <1024605817.25648.60188.m6@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <5967089781.20020620161041@mindspring.com>


ickle_ronniekins wrote:
HMyc> 2. Why did the car have to be in front of the train? I like the humor
HMyc> of the situation but aren't Harry and Ron supposed to be keeping out 
HMyc> of sight up above?

Yeah, but a train chase makes "better television" (or movies in this
case)...

HMyc> 4. Who's that lying petrified guy? Obviously not Nearly Headless
HMyc> Nick -- too opaque. Not Colin -- black hair. Penelope and Hermione 
HMyc> are girls. Justin is the only possibility left, but I think he's too 
HMyc> big and adult-looking for a 12-year old.

Is Justin a second-year?  I thought he was older...

HMyc> 5. The writing on the wall -- this was pointed out before on the-
HMyc> leaky-cauldron.org: it's too high for Ginny, the letters are red 
HMyc> instead of silver, and the childish writing is a bit of a giveaway.

As has been pointed out, it could be levitation... And not even that
is necessary -- Just do _Wingardium Leviosa_ on the brush...

HMyc> 6. I really think that the Gray Lady, being given much exposure in 
HMyc> the movies, will play some important role in the later books.

I missed seeing her in the Trailer... Where does she appear?

Draco382 wrote:
HMyc> Okay, anyway, I have
HMyc> one question.  I don't remember that scene with the dinosaur bones 
HMyc> collapsing...can anyone refresh my memory and tell me where that 
HMyc> happens in CoS?  (I don't have the book at home with me...)

Nothing in the books about this, but it's established in the first
film that this skeleton is in the DADA classroom (check the scene
when McGonnegal pulls Oliver Wood out of class to introduce his
"new seeker"), so I'm making a wild guess that the Cornish Pixies
ravage it.

<Begin "Hermione" mode>

BTW, I think it's a dragon skeleton, not a dinosaur's... Though
they certainly seem to be suggesting that dragons and dinosaurs
are related... The dragon skeleton has a classic "archosaur" skull
(two holes behind the eye socket and one in front), and otherwise
resembles a sort of membrane-winged "raptor".

<End "Hermione" mode>

-- 
Dave




From editor at texas.net  Fri Jun 21 02:26:52 2002
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:26:52 -0500
Subject: Trailer spoilers--Snape
Message-ID: <007a01c218cb$1c636960$707663d1@texas.net>

Y
A
D
A

Y
A
D
A

I've been going through the frame-by-frame of the trailer that's available
on the Leaky Cauldron (thankyou thankyou thankyou)--my computer will, as was
the case with everything from the first movie, play me beautiful audio with
occasional stills for the video.

Anyway--that first shot of Snape on page 4--the head shot in the
McGonagall-Snape-Lockhart sequence. My, my, but isn't that a human
expression in his eyes? I'd be tempted to say this is the staffroom scene,
for he looks very worried, not nasty--but look at the background. Doesn't
that look like his office?

And later--on the 12th page--it clearly *is* the scene where he's just
nabbed Ron and Harry, he's showing them the paper. I'd bet my life this is
the same scene that the other shot is from.

So--what's with that expression? He should be either totally pissed off at
them, or totally overjoyed that he is about to get them expelled. That
expression is neither. He looks worried.

While this fits neatly into my own personal interpretation of Snape, I'm
surprised they let this show. The first time we see any concern out of Snape
is in the staffroom scene. I'm betting they changed something for this
expression to be there--Alan Rickman is too good an actor for this to be a
mistake. He's doing as directed.

Any ideas?

--Amanda, premier Snapologist *and* Rickman fan






From caliburncy at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 21 04:23:34 2002
From: caliburncy at yahoo.com (caliburncy)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 04:23:34 -0000
Subject: Trailer spoilers--Snape
In-Reply-To: <007a01c218cb$1c636960$707663d1@texas.net>
Message-ID: <aeu9o6+lo42@eGroups.com>

Hi,

Borrowing Amanda's trailer spoiler space:

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Amanda Geist" <editor at t...> wrote:
> Y
> A
> D
> A
> 
> Y
> A
> D
> A
> 
>
> So--what's with that expression? He should be either totally pissed
> off at them, or totally overjoyed that he is about to get them
> expelled. That expression is neither. He looks worried.

Well, it's very hard to draw firm conclusions without the full 
context of the finished film.

But both the worried expressions you refer to convey a little 
differently when you are able to see the full-moving video, rather 
than just a single still.

For example, with the first image you refer to (on page four of TLC's 
frame selections), in the full-motion trailer Snape is swishing his 
head from side to front, the way you do when someone says something 
surprising.  But then, once that sweeping motion is over, he lowers 
his eyes ever so slightly, as if contemplating something . . . 
perhaps he is disbelieving, perhaps he is making a connection with 
some other tidbit of information . . . it's pretty much impossible to 
tell.

With the second image you refer to (on page twelve of TLC's frame 
selections), when you see the full-moving images, it begins to look 
to me less like worry and more like an understated challenge: 
i.e. "And how do you explain *this*?"

Of course, there could very easily be some sort of undertone of worry 
in either of these situations--like I said, it's hard to infer 
anything from so little information really.  But hopefully that's 
helpful. :-)

As for your inability to get the trailer to play the video fluidly, 
are you downloading it to your hard drive first, or are you streaming 
it off the Internet?  If you are streaming it from the Internet 
instead of downloading, then you will be subject to whatever speeds 
your Internet connection is capable, and the result may be choppy.  
So downloading it and then playing it is better.

If you have already downloaded it and are *still* having problems, 
then the only reasonable explanation for this I can think of is if 
your processor is slow, or the seek time on your hard drive is 
extremely unusually large.  In that case, you would have to download 
a lower quality version of the trailer.

Amanda, feel free to e-mail me off-list if you want tech help with 
this.  I may not be able to help much, but I will do what I can.

-Luke




From alexpie at aol.com  Fri Jun 21 04:23:50 2002
From: alexpie at aol.com (alexpie at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 00:23:50 EDT
Subject: Trailer Download Problems
Message-ID: <6e.1e5dd2bc.2a440456@aol.com>

I've been a lurker thus far, but must send my thanks for instructions 
(thanks, Martin) on downloading the trailer.  I downloaded it from the Leaky 
Cauldron website, but have a caveat for those who would attempt it.  I 
right-clicked on the link to my modem speed and nothing happened.  Then, 
instead of clicking, I *held* the right button down for a good three seconds 
or so, and it began to download quite nicely.  The quality--even for a 56 
speed modem (and I used to think that was fast)--was excellent, even in 
double-size mode.  The only problem is that I can't explain to my boyfriend 
why I'm wandering off into my office (I work at home) to--ahem--check my 
email every half hour or so.  
 I think the boys' voices are delightful and, frankly, that it looks much 
better than the first.
  Hoping that this will pass the charming Magical Mods standards as on topic,
   Thanks again to all--
   Ba, of Ravenclaw (and what else would a copy editor be, really?)



From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Fri Jun 21 07:23:23 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 08:23:23 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Chamber Trailer Nitpicking
References: <aetklv+oao8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001d01c218f4$88034e00$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Oh what a clever person you are!  I did not think of that.  I love the pic I saw of Hermione brewing the polyjuice potion though!

Felicia
About to apologise for another one-liner but England are playing and she has to get back.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: doliesl 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 11:23 PM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Chamber Trailer Nitpicking



  > 4. Who's that lying petrified guy? Obviously not Nearly Headless 
  > Nick -- too opaque. Not Colin -- black hair. Penelope and Hermione 
  > are girls. Justin is the only possibility left, but I think he's too 
  > big and adult-looking for a 12-year old.

  I thought the person being "dragged" by his feet in this scene is Goyle (or Crabbe, when they 
  were drugged by the Trio before taking the polyjuice potion), not the petrified students. They 
  only put that clip in different context (narration say one thing, but scene shows completely 
  different scene, but still works in establishing "suspense' and "danger") 


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From monica.coyne at tesco.net  Fri Jun 21 07:33:41 2002
From: monica.coyne at tesco.net (Monica Coyne)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 08:33:41 +0100
Subject: saving the trailer
References: <1024629255.1439.4877.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <00ad01c218f5$fad34880$10bb0250@lgoffice>

Don't know if this will help but it worked for me.  I'm using Internet
Explorer on a P.C using XP.

1.  Go to Tools and then select internet options.

2.  Then from the temporary Internet files section chose settings.

3. Click on the view files button.

You should see everything that has been cached to your hard drive.  If the
movie isn't here it may be because your cache size is too small.  Simply
move the slider to increase the amount of disc space available for the cache
and watch the trailer again.  It should then be on the hard drive and you
can watch it to your heart's content.

Monica






From ravenclaw775 at aol.com  Fri Jun 21 14:20:43 2002
From: ravenclaw775 at aol.com (ravenclaw775 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:20:43 EDT
Subject: Martin, You are a god.
Message-ID: <17d.9eb157f.2a44903b@aol.com>

I don't write much to this list, but I had to say a big public thank you for 
the trailer.  Looks crisper and cleaner than when I saw it in the theatres on 
Scooby Doo.  I'll be watching it over and over today, despite Dobby sounding 
like an old lady (I know it's one of the actors from The Play What I Wrote, 
which I missed while I was in London - but rumor has it, Broadway in the 
spring).  THANK YOU, MARTIN!
--
Christine



From ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk  Fri Jun 21 16:48:57 2002
From: ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin Hooper)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 17:48:57 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Martin, You are a god.
In-Reply-To: <17d.9eb157f.2a44903b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020621174845.009f7270@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>

At 15:20 21/06/02, you wrote:
>I don't write much to this list, but I had to say a big public thank you for
>the trailer.  Looks crisper and cleaner than when I saw it in the theatres on
>Scooby Doo.  I'll be watching it over and over today, despite Dobby sounding
>like an old lady (I know it's one of the actors from The Play What I Wrote,
>which I missed while I was in London - but rumor has it, Broadway in the
>spring).  THANK YOU, MARTIN!

No probs...  Anything to help...


Martin J Hooper
http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602


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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Fri Jun 21 16:54:24 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 17:54:24 +0100
Subject: Martin, You are a god. GRIN
References: <17d.9eb157f.2a44903b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <008f01c21944$4c335be0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Is this another member for the * We Love Martin * fan club.

Ah, this means I have to go and download the trailer myself for which I too must thank Martin (if I can get it to work) if not I will call in the cats from the bedroom.....

Secondly, it does bear a close resemblance to the report of our sub reporter - well done - and contains more Snape that I had ever hoped to get in one go. * sigh*

Felicia
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ravenclaw775 at aol.com 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 3:20 PM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Martin, You are a god.


  I don't write much to this list, but I had to say a big public thank you for 
  the trailer.  Looks crisper and cleaner than when I saw it in the theatres on 
  Scooby Doo.  I'll be watching it over and over today, despite Dobby sounding 
  like an old lady (I know it's one of the actors from The Play What I Wrote, 
  which I missed while I was in London - but rumor has it, Broadway in the 
  spring).  THANK YOU, MARTIN!



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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Fri Jun 21 17:11:23 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 18:11:23 +0100
Subject: Martin, You are a god Part II
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020621174845.009f7270@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <00dc01c21946$abdba960$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

If you really want to see Martin walk on water then try the screencaps of Philosoper's Stone.  There are some real stunners including a fine view of Hogwarts and a nice snap of Snape and the staircases one is positively dizzying.. as well as one or two nice ones of dear * Uncle Severus * (ahem).

While I am here and before I vanish to the Orkney Islands for a week (well I have to read PoA somewhere.....) I would like to thank the others who sent helpful emails and stuff - what works for one does not always work for another so alternative options are always welcom and helpful.

Felicia
off to drool over Uncle Severus.............


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Martin Hooper 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 5:48 PM
  Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Martin, You are a god.


  At 15:20 21/06/02, you wrote:
  >I don't write much to this list, but I had to say a big public thank you for
  >the trailer.  Looks crisper and cleaner than when I saw it in the theatres on
  >Scooby Doo.  I'll be watching it over and over today, despite Dobby sounding
  >like an old lady (I know it's one of the actors from The Play What I Wrote,
  >which I missed while I was in London - but rumor has it, Broadway in the
  >spring).  THANK YOU, MARTIN!

  No probs...  Anything to help...


  Martin J Hooper
  http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
  AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602


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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Fri Jun 21 19:42:58 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:42:58 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] The Trailer is Online!
References: <F137yt3cew8k69RKLpg0000afbf@hotmail.com> <018d01c2180c$be4ebaa0$53263244@nrockv01.md.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001101c2195b$d8d5be00$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

OK - now - thanks to Martin * Who walks on Water * Hooper I have managed to get my trailer.  Is it completely out of order to ask how I can get a screencap of Snape from it for my wallpaper before I go on holiday and post my mum's cd copy of the trailer off (she not being on line etc.,)

Felicia


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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Fri Jun 21 19:51:39 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:51:39 +0100
Subject: Spoilers--Snape 
References: <007a01c218cb$1c636960$707663d1@texas.net>
Message-ID: <001a01c2195d$0f6c3d80$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

I've been going through the frame-by-frame of the trailer that's available
on the Leaky Cauldron SNIP Anyway--that first shot of Snape on page 4--the head shot in the
McGonagall-Snape-Lockhart sequence. My, my, but isn't that a human
expression in his eyes? 

Yup, after all, AR does know the full spiel on Uncle Severus, JKR told him (rumour has it) what was going down with our hero (Snape)

And later--on the 12th page--it clearly *is* the scene where he's just
nabbed Ron and Harry, he's showing them the paper. I'd bet my life this is
the same scene that the other shot is from.

I agree, they do tend to take huge liberties in favour in emotional and cinematic expedience (and who are we to argue - skips three feet above the floor and reviews cd copy of trailer......).

He looks worried.

And thereby hangs the tail we all want the answer to and which fanfic has tried to address (with varying degrees of (un)success)

While this fits neatly into my own personal interpretation of Snape, I'm
surprised they let this show. 

Being blunt, they probably had no idea what they were releasing to the cogniscenti * G *

--Amanda, premier Snapologist *and* Rickman fan

To whome Felicia Rickmann defers - especially with her front row seat *G*


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From ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk  Fri Jun 21 20:58:23 2002
From: ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin Hooper)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 21:58:23 +0100
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020621215517.009fc0f0@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>

http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images3/hpss052.jpg
http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images3/hpss053.jpg
http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images3/hpss070.jpg
http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images3/hpss085.jpg
http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images3/hpss116.jpg
http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images3/hpss117.jpg

Here are all the pics I have done of Professor Snape from the movie...  For 
all you Snape fans out there...


Martin J Hooper
http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602


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From clare at daymen.com  Fri Jun 21 13:11:16 2002
From: clare at daymen.com (Mina-Clare Moseley)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:11:16 -0400
Subject: CoS Trailer Comments
In-Reply-To: <5967089781.20020620161041@mindspring.com>
References: <1024605817.25648.60188.m6@yahoogroups.com>
 <5967089781.20020620161041@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <v04210100b938b3480f0f@[64.10.99.125]>

ickle_ronniekins asked:

>HMyc> one question.  I don't remember that scene with the dinosaur bones
>HMyc> collapsing.

To which Dave responded:

>BTW, I think it's a dragon skeleton, not a dinosaur's.

It is a dragon skeleton in the DADA classroom in the PS and CoS 
movies. In the October, 2001 Vanity Fair, they had a pictorial of PS 
pictures. There is a picture of Quirrell, Flitwick and Hooch with the 
dragon skeleton. The caption on the photo makes mention of it being a 
dragon skeleton.

I looked through "Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them", I think 
the skeleton is of a Peruvian Vipertooth Dragon. It fits the general 
size and skeletel description.

Milly Marsh writes:

>I don't think it's a petrified guy, I think it's either Crabe or
>Goyle being dragged away into the closet for their clothes.

I think you're right. That's one of Malfoy's stooges.

>Not sure, but the choreography looks pretty fun so far!

I totally agree. The first time I saw the trailer, I said "Whoa.... 
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Harry!"

One of my own notes.... Unless I am mistaken, I believe that is a 
drawing of a Phoenix behind Professsor McGonagall when she says "the 
Chamber is said to be home of a monster." It resembles JKR's sketch 
of Fawkes.

I have to say, I am very excited to see CoS. I am more impressed with 
the trailer for this one than I was for PS. Of course, I didn't 
really pay attention to the PS trailers when they first came out (I 
only read PS the Monday before the movie was released). I am very 
interested to see how CoS is conveyed on the big screen. I must 
admit, it is my least favourite of the books. That is one of the 
reasons I want to see what they've done with it. I'm WORRIED about 
seeing my favourite book (PoA) done on screen. I love it so much, I'm 
afraid the movie will ruin it for me.

Well, as long as they get a good director and good actors for Sirius 
and Remus. So far I haven't been disappointed with their casting.

~Mina





From ickle_ronniekins at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 21 17:07:39 2002
From: ickle_ronniekins at yahoo.com (ickle_ronniekins)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 17:07:39 -0000
Subject: Goyle in Trailer (was Re: Chamber Trailer Nitpicking)
In-Reply-To: <aetkfc+brs6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aevmgr+h9rg@eGroups.com>

Thanks for pointing that out... how come I didn't think it was Goyle? 
Oh well. Maybe since this is an HP2 trailer I'm expecting to see 
someone petrified. Then again it was the medium res trailer I 
downloaded...

At least I'm not alone in thinking that...

-Ron Yu


Joan wrote:
> how come everyone (also saw similar assumption in other websites) 
> assume that lying person is a victim of Baslisk!?!? He's not even 
> petrified! It's so obivous that that's Goyle!  Remember the 
> polyjuice? remember he was drugged and got dragged by Harry and 
they 
> hide him in the closet?  Just look at the Trailer frame by frame 
> you'll recognized that's Goyle!





From cornflakegirl07 at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 21 04:39:12 2002
From: cornflakegirl07 at hotmail.com (miao0726)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 04:39:12 -0000
Subject: hi there!
Message-ID: <aeualg+k926@eGroups.com>

i just signed up to this list.  and i have a question. as for all the 
easter eggs on the dvd - is there now a site that lists them all ? i 
have been checking the sites i usually goto for that info and cant 
find complete lists.

thanks!
buffy season 2 dvd released 6/11/02





From ravenclaw775 at aol.com  Sat Jun 22 03:55:37 2002
From: ravenclaw775 at aol.com (ravenclaw775 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 23:55:37 EDT
Subject: COS Trailer on Lilo & Stitch
Message-ID: <123.1287477c.2a454f39@aol.com>

Not that I needed to see the trailer again on the big screen (worship of 
Martin), but I did tonight on Disney's new movie Lilo & Stitch.   It was the 
very first trailer they ran - the rest were crap.  I really don't need to see 
The Country Bears trailer ever again.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
--
Christine


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From ShelaghC at aol.com  Sat Jun 22 06:11:38 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 06:11:38 -0000
Subject: PoA director announced
Message-ID: <af14eq+p9ak@eGroups.com>

over at 

http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org who got it from

http://www.potterwatch.com

And I got it from Ebony. <g> :::waving:::

Shelagh
all the news that fits, we print








From plumeski at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 24 17:04:38 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 17:04:38 -0000
Subject: hi there!
In-Reply-To: <aeualg+k926@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <af7jf6+fgjp@eGroups.com>

"miao0726" <cornflakegirl07 at h...> wrote:
> i just signed up to this list.  and i have a question. as for all 
the 
> easter eggs on the dvd - is there now a site that lists them all ? 

What makes you think there's more to find than has already been 
reported? As far as I can tell, there aren't any easter eggs on the 
HP release anyway. 

The only thing which is being called an egg is the route to get at 
the deleted scenes, which isn't an easter egg in the classic sense, 
as it's very much meant to be found and isn't hidden in any way. It's 
nothing more than the "prize" at the end of a puzzle which is 
designed into the interface.

Lots of people who use back doors to find easter eggs have found 
nothing on the HP release which isn't there in the interface, so 
there are no other "eggs" to be listed.





From Dar20 at aol.com  Mon Jun 24 17:25:37 2002
From: Dar20 at aol.com (darlenebuell)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 17:25:37 -0000
Subject: CoS Trailer Comments
In-Reply-To: <v04210100b938b3480f0f@[64.10.99.125]>
Message-ID: <af7kmh+cuir@eGroups.com>

Mina wrote:
> I have to say, I am very excited to see CoS. I am more impressed 
with 
> the trailer for this one than I was for PS. Of course, I didn't 
> really pay attention to the PS trailers when they first came out (I 
> only read PS the Monday before the movie was released). 

Funny you say that, Mina.  I was NOT a HP fan when the trailers 
started showing for PS/SS.  In fact, I rolled my eyes every time the 
trailer came on the screen.  I just thought HP was a kiddie book.  
Well, then I read the books before PS/SS came out and the rest is 
history!  :)

I can't wait until Nov. 15th!

Dar




From TACtalk at adelanta.co.uk  Mon Jun 24 16:31:16 2002
From: TACtalk at adelanta.co.uk (tactalk2001)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 16:31:16 -0000
Subject: Where was 'HP' shot?
In-Reply-To: <a2tchf+1pme@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <af7hgk+ntuo@eGroups.com>

I am a new member of this list, so please excuse me if you have 
discussed this before.

I am trying to find the location of a tiny scene in the movie; the 
*exterior* shot of 'The Leaky Cauldron'. Does anyone know exactly 
where this was filmed, as I would love to visit?

Thanks and regards,
Nicho





From caliburncy at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 26 18:15:59 2002
From: caliburncy at yahoo.com (caliburncy)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 18:15:59 -0000
Subject: Where was 'HP' shot?
In-Reply-To: <af7hgk+ntuo@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <afd0cv+ktk1@eGroups.com>

Hi,

I'm surprised no one's answered this yet.  Ah, well.  I'll take a 
crack at it:

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "tactalk2001" <TACtalk at a...> wrote:
> I am trying to find the location of a tiny scene in the movie; the 
> *exterior* shot of 'The Leaky Cauldron'. Does anyone know exactly 
> where this was filmed, as I would love to visit?

I'm not absolutely positive, but I seem to recall that all of the 
exterior shots of Diagon Alley were done on a studio soundstage.  So 
if my memory of that is accurate, that would mean there is, 
unfortunately, no way to visit the "real location" of The Leaky 
Cauldron.

But, in happier news, welcome to HPfGU!

-Luke




From Joanne0012 at aol.com  Wed Jun 26 19:47:21 2002
From: Joanne0012 at aol.com (joanne0012)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 19:47:21 -0000
Subject: Where was 'HP' shot?
In-Reply-To: <afd0cv+ktk1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <afd5o9+jrij@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "caliburncy" <caliburncy at y...> wrote:
> I seem to recall that all of the 
> exterior shots of Diagon Alley were done on a studio soundstage.  So 
> if my memory of that is accurate, that would mean there is, 
> unfortunately, no way to visit the "real location" of The Leaky 
> Cauldron.

But the entrance to the Leaky Cauldron isn't in Diagon Alley!  I do recall hearing 
about a location near Charing Cross where this exterior was filmed ( and then 
special effects added, of course).  Perhaps we can identify the street that 
Harry and Hagrid were walking down in the scene immediately before they arrived 
at the LC?  It seems to be a genuine, busy corner.




From TACtalk at adelanta.co.uk  Wed Jun 26 19:22:38 2002
From: TACtalk at adelanta.co.uk (tactalk2001)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 19:22:38 -0000
Subject: Where was 'HP' shot?
In-Reply-To: <afd0cv+ktk1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <afd49u+uumb@eGroups.com>

Thanks to everyone who has responded to me off-list about the 
location of the exterior shot of 'The Leaky Cauldron', and thanks 
for the welcome to the group. I'm not sure that the mystery is 
solved, and I may not have been clear about exactly which shot I 
meant. Let me try to describe it more closely:-

After Harry and Hagrid leave the island, you get a general shot of 
the Houses of Parliament and River Thames. The next shot is 
Harry and Hagrid walking outside Leadenhall Market (the big 
white building), opposite Kent's grocery store. (It is definitely 
Leadenhall Market; you can actually see the name above the 
arch). It's the next shot that I am trying to pin down; where they 
approach the black facade of the 'Leaky Cauldron', and the pub's 
name fades in on the sign-board. I don't think that it is a set; look 
at the surrounding buildings. To the right, there is what is 
obviously a second-hand bookstore, complete with a rack of 
books outside and an intercom and a sign saying 'More Books 
Upstairs'. To the left is either an antiques store or a thrift store; it 
seems to have a name beginning with 'C'. It's all a bit too 
shabby, a bit too genuinely London, to be a set.

I have heard vague rumours that it was shot in Charing Cross 
Road (which is famous for its second-hand bookstores), but I 
walked up and down that street a couple of weeks ago, and 
nothing matched.

Does this shed any light on the subject?

Thanks and regards,
Nicholas





From pbnesbit at msn.com  Wed Jun 26 20:26:21 2002
From: pbnesbit at msn.com (harpdreamer)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 20:26:21 -0000
Subject: Where was 'HP' shot?
In-Reply-To: <afd49u+uumb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <afd81d+mq9s@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "tactalk2001" <TACtalk at a...> wrote:
> Thanks to everyone who has responded to me off-list about the 
> location of the exterior shot of 'The Leaky Cauldron', and thanks 
> for the welcome to the group. I'm not sure that the mystery is 
> solved, and I may not have been clear about exactly which shot I 
> meant. Let me try to describe it more closely:-

(Snip description of scene) 

> Thanks and regards,
> Nicholas


Nicholas, 


Here's a URL for you (and anyone else who's curious about shooting 
locations).  www.mybritain.com/harrypotter.htm.  

Hope it helps!

Peace & Plenty, 

Parker 




From plumeski at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 27 05:56:43 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 05:56:43 -0000
Subject: Where was 'HP' shot?
In-Reply-To: <afd49u+uumb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <afe9er+70e5@eGroups.com>

"tactalk2001" <TACtalk at a...> wrote:

<snip>

> I have heard vague rumours that it was shot in Charing Cross 
> Road (which is famous for its second-hand bookstores), but I 
> walked up and down that street a couple of weeks ago, and 
> nothing matched.

Around Christmas (ie just after the movie came out), I did something 
very similar, with similar results. I must admit that I've not 
thought about it since. :-)

I don't have my copy of the DVD to hand to double check, but I think 
I'm correct in saying that we don't actually see Hagrid opening the 
door from the outside (from memory, the shot sequence is that we see 
him & Harry walking up to the door, but then we cut to an interior 
view to see them entering). This made me think that the Leaky 
Couldron facade is just that in that word's alternate meaning - a 
fake. :-)

I'm sitting here staring at a video capture I did a while back for 
another purpose of them standing outside the door, and the impression 
I get is that the Leaky Couldron facade is built over the entrance to 
an alleyway (the facades of the shops on either side aren't at the 
same elevation). 

It certainly doesn't look like any bit of Charing Cross Road to me (I 
used to know almost every inch of it) :-) and I suspect that it is 
somewhere around the back streets of Soho (Brewer Street, Windmill 
Street, that kind of area). Or a thought which has just occurred to 
me is that square (whose name I've forgotten for the moment) 
immediately across Charing Cross Road from the entrance into 
Leicester Square. I have a vague memory of something like that in 
that maze of little alleys. This would have the added advantage of 
being easy to film, instead of having to hold up the traffic in 
Charing Cross Road.

The building to the right of the Leaky Couldron is quite distinctive 
with that yellow pillar on a brown base; on the left of the LC is a 
shop with CDs on the rack rather than books, which narrows down the 
choices...

Of course, it's not entirely imposible that that was in fact filmed 
on a sound stage - a redress of part of the Diagon Alley set is all 
that would be required, as we see neither the pavement nor the top of 
the buildings.

If you don't get anywhere, I'll have another search around that area 
the next time I'm in London in a few weeks' time (I had to move out 
of the capital last year, but I remain a frequent visitor).





From waterdogn at aol.com  Thu Jun 27 05:46:11 2002
From: waterdogn at aol.com (waterdogn)
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 05:46:11 -0000
Subject: Where was 'HP' shot?
In-Reply-To: <afd49u+uumb@eGroups.com>
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--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "tactalk2001" <TACtalk at a...> wrote:
> Thanks to everyone who has responded to me off-list about the 
> location of the exterior shot of 'The Leaky Cauldron'

snip
> 
> I have heard vague rumours that it was shot in Charing Cross 
> Road (which is famous for its second-hand bookstores), but I 
> walked up and down that street a couple of weeks ago, and 
> nothing matched.

Hi Nicholas-

According to an article in "The Look" supplement to the Sunday 
Mirror, the Leakey Cauldron was indeed in Charing Cross Road. Maybe 
they altered the surrounding store facades slightly to get the right 
look?

Robin Nicholls
Waterdogn @ aol.com
Southern California





From jrobinson at crescentmoon.org.uk  Fri Jun 28 21:21:29 2002
From: jrobinson at crescentmoon.org.uk (Jeremy Robinson)
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:21:29 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Digest Number 245
References: <1025266444.140.69928.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <3D1CD35A.C5D53580@crescentmoon.org.uk>

Go to the UK tourist board website - they've got the best guide to 'Potter'
locations (Oxford, Gloucester, Lacock, London, etc). 

-- 
__________________________________

Jeremy Robinson

P.O. Box 393, Maidstone, Kent, ME14 5XU, U.K.

tel: 01622-729593 (UK)
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E-MAIL AND INTERNET

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From lav at tut.by  Sat Jun 29 17:04:42 2002
From: lav at tut.by (Alexander)
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:04:42 +0300
Subject: Movie Translations
Message-ID: <2723555877.20020629200442@tut.by>

  Greetings!

  I can't wait for the CoS/f to come... Not because of it's
great value to the world, but mostly for personal reasons: I
*love* watching fantasy films in various translations - they
usually send me into hysterical laughter. This is especially
great when films are translated by people who didn't read
the book beforehand...

  I have only seen PS/SS/f a month ago, and since then I
have seen three different translations, and each had a
"jewel" or two.

  (to start with...)

  "Who are you?"
  "Rubeus Hagrid, Keeper of Keys and Grain of Hogwarts."

  (...or another variant...)

  "Who are you?"
  "Rubeus Hagrid, Keeper of Keys and Graves of Hogwarts."

  (...McGonagall's phrase...)

  "Wood, I have found you a Pisser" (yep, word "seeker"
transfocated into Russian becomes exactly that... ;)

  (...and Hagrid again...)

  "Harry, this is professor Quirrell. He will be your
defender against Dark Arts teacher of Hogwarts..."

  But the most surprise was to know that Harry is son of
Dumbledore and McGonagall (yep, it was said right in the
beginning of the film...)

  Hmm... maybe there are other translations (to different
languages) that we should know about?

Sincerely yours,
Alexander Lomski,
Gryffindor/Slytherin crossbreed,
always happy to throw weird ideas into community.

Saturday, June 29, 2002, 19:52 local time (GMT+2:00)





From kechelsen at aol.com  Sun Jun 30 21:22:21 2002
From: kechelsen at aol.com (kathye_c)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 21:22:21 -0000
Subject: Hugh Grant as Lockhart?!
Message-ID: <afnsqd+rkdn@eGroups.com>

I was looking at the June 7 issue of Entertainment Weekly, which had 
some photos from the upcoming CoS film... included in the photos was 
a picture of Lockhart, Harry and Ron.  Underneath the photo it said 
that Hugh Grant had been considered for the role, but they went with 
Branagh because "Ken seems to disappear into any role."  

Since the book was so specific in the description of Lockhart as a 
blue-eyed blond, I find it hard to believe that Grant could have been 
a serious contendor for the role -- I mean, I simply cannot see him 
with blond hair! <G>

When I heard that Branagh was playing Lockhart, I thought that was a 
good piece of casting.  It will be interesting to see how he does 
with the role.

Kathy




From caliburncy at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 30 23:14:54 2002
From: caliburncy at yahoo.com (caliburncy)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 23:14:54 -0000
Subject: Hugh Grant as Lockhart?!
In-Reply-To: <afnsqd+rkdn@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <afo3de+ph2p@eGroups.com>

Hi,

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "kathye_c" <kechelsen at a...> wrote:
> I was looking at the June 7 issue of Entertainment Weekly, which
> had some photos from the upcoming CoS film... included in the
> photos was a picture of Lockhart, Harry and Ron.  Underneath the
> photo it said that Hugh Grant had been considered for the role, but
> they went with Branagh because "Ken seems to disappear into any
> role."  

As I recall, it was rumored for a while that Hugh Grant would play 
Lockhart--there was talk of him bleaching his hair because a wig 
looked ridiculous.  However, in a later interview (below) with Chris 
Columbus, he said that these rumors were baseless and that Hugh Grant 
had never been approached about the role.

http://www.empireonline.co.uk/news/news.asp?3455

See, the problem with a marketing juggernaut like the HP films is 
that rumors are leapt upon with great fervor not only by the Internet 
press, but by the printed press as well.  So even in supposedly 
reputable magazines, you can no longer blindly believe what you read, 
because they do a lousy job of confirming sources.  (And, 
unfortunately, they are not often held culpable for this, because the 
only way to do so is to lose faith in their journalistic reliability 
and stop rewarding them with money.)

For another example, the rumor *still* persists that the original cut 
of the PS/SS movie was four hours long, even though Columbus has said 
several times (one such instance below) that there was no such four 
hour cut.  These rumors just don't die, even when they are proved 
wrong.

http://www.empireonline.co.uk/news/news.asp?3454

Of course, I, in my skepticism, can't recommend trusting anything I 
have said above, either.  I could always be wrong.  After all, as you 
can see from the sources I provide, it's all just something I read 
somewhere. :-)

-Luke