From Joanne0012 at aol.com  Thu May  2 13:48:18 2002
From: Joanne0012 at aol.com (joanne0012)
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 13:48:18 -0000
Subject: Zoe speaks out
Message-ID: <aarg32+7o0p@eGroups.com>

Recent report from Ananova quotes Zoe Wanamaker sounding surprised and 
wistful at not being invited back to play Madame Hooch in HPCS. After the stink 
she made about the actors' pay, al I can say is: Duh! What did she expect?

http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_579083.html?menu=




From Joanne0012 at aol.com  Thu May  2 13:48:06 2002
From: Joanne0012 at aol.com (joanne0012)
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 13:48:06 -0000
Subject: Zoe speaks out
Message-ID: <aarg2m+pe97@eGroups.com>

Recent report from Ananova quotes Zoe Wanamaker sounding surprised and 
wistful at not being invited back to play Madame Hooch in HPCS. After the stink 
she made about the actors' pay, al I can say is: Duh! What did she expect?

http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_579083.html?menu=




From Dar20 at aol.com  Thu May  2 19:16:06 2002
From: Dar20 at aol.com (darlenebuell)
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 19:16:06 -0000
Subject: Anyone know how to get a Region 1 PS on DVD??
Message-ID: <aas39m+koe6@eGroups.com>

I know I can pre-order PS on DVD from Amazon UK.  Problem is, it's 
Region 2.  Will they release a Region 1 version of PS?  Anyone know 
where I can get one?

Thanks!
Darlene




From siskiou at earthlink.net  Thu May  2 19:31:07 2002
From: siskiou at earthlink.net (Susanne)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 12:31:07 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Anyone know how to get a Region 1 PS on DVD??
In-Reply-To: <aas39m+koe6@eGroups.com>
References: <aas39m+koe6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <193251898899.20020502123107@earthlink.net>



Hi,

Thursday, May 02, 2002, 12:16:06 PM, Dar20 at aol.com wrote:

> Will they release a Region 1 version of PS?  Anyone know 
> where I can get one?

Just go to http://www.amazon.com (the US site) and you
should find it there easily as Region 1.

I pre-ordered it a couple of months ago.

-- 
Best regards,
 Susanne                           mailto:siskiou at earthlink.net




From Dar20 at aol.com  Thu May  2 19:38:25 2002
From: Dar20 at aol.com (darlenebuell)
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 19:38:25 -0000
Subject: Anyone know how to get a Region 1 PS on DVD??
In-Reply-To: <193251898899.20020502123107@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <aas4jh+grti@eGroups.com>

Thanks, Susanne, but I'm looking for Philosopher's Stone, not 
Sorcerer's Stone.  

Amazon (US) only has SS that I can find.

Darlene

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Susanne <siskiou at e...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Thursday, May 02, 2002, 12:16:06 PM, Dar20 at a... wrote:
> 
> > Will they release a Region 1 version of PS?  Anyone know 
> > where I can get one?
> 
> Just go to http://www.amazon.com (the US site) and you
> should find it there easily as Region 1.
> 
> I pre-ordered it a couple of months ago.
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
>  Susanne                           mailto:siskiou at e...




From siskiou at earthlink.net  Thu May  2 19:45:46 2002
From: siskiou at earthlink.net (Susanne)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 12:45:46 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Anyone know how to get a Region 1 PS on DVD??
In-Reply-To: <aas4jh+grti@eGroups.com>
References: <aas4jh+grti@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <158252778311.20020502124546@earthlink.net>



Hi,

Thursday, May 02, 2002, 12:38:25 PM, Dar20 at aol.com wrote:

> Thanks, Susanne, but I'm looking for Philosopher's Stone, not 
> Sorcerer's Stone.  

I guess then you'll have to get a dvd player that can play
Region 2 dvds and convert from PAL to NTSC.

Is there any difference between the movies besides the
title?

-- 
Best regards,
 Susanne                           mailto:siskiou at earthlink.net




From kechelsen at aol.com  Thu May  2 21:16:03 2002
From: kechelsen at aol.com (kathye_c)
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 21:16:03 -0000
Subject: Anyone know how to get a Region 1 PS on DVD??
In-Reply-To: <aas4jh+grti@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aasaaj+3a06@eGroups.com>

<<--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "darlenebuell" <Dar20 at a...> wrote:
Thanks, Susanne, but I'm looking for Philosopher's Stone, not 
Sorcerer's Stone.  

Amazon (US) only has SS that I can find.>>

I think both movies are the same in content, only the titles are 
different.  This reflects the title differences in the books.


Unfortunately, they don't make "multi system" dvd players as yet -- 
I've looked.  They have DUAL voltage, but no multi-system.  So if 
your dvd player only plays region 1 you're going to have to go with 
the American title.  




From editor at texas.net  Fri May  3 02:17:13 2002
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 21:17:13 -0500
Subject: On the DVD...
Message-ID: <004701c1f248$a4a92480$3c7d63d1@texas.net>

I just had a thought. Are Canadian DVD players Region 1 or Region 2? Because
Canada is PS, not SS. Perhaps you can hook up with a Canadian fan....

--Amanda




From kechelsen at aol.com  Fri May  3 05:29:01 2002
From: kechelsen at aol.com (kathye_c)
Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 05:29:01 -0000
Subject: On the DVD...
In-Reply-To: <004701c1f248$a4a92480$3c7d63d1@texas.net>
Message-ID: <aat76t+cjnf@eGroups.com>

<<--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Amanda" <editor at t...> wrote:
I just had a thought. Are Canadian DVD players Region 1 or Region 2? 
Because Canada is PS, not SS. Perhaps you can hook up with a Canadian 
fan....>>


I think Region 1 covers North America, and Region 2 covers Europe.  




From Dar20 at aol.com  Fri May  3 18:15:31 2002
From: Dar20 at aol.com (darlenebuell)
Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 18:15:31 -0000
Subject: Anyone know how to get a Region 1 PS on DVD??
In-Reply-To: <158252778311.20020502124546@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <aauk43+mt6k@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Susanne <siskiou at e...> wrote:
> 
> Is there any difference between the movies besides the
> title?


I think that any scene that references the "Sorcerer's Stone" was 
replaced with a scene that references the "Philosopher's Stone".  
Other than that, I'm not sure.

Darlene




From Dar20 at aol.com  Fri May  3 18:16:32 2002
From: Dar20 at aol.com (darlenebuell)
Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 18:16:32 -0000
Subject: On the DVD...
In-Reply-To: <004701c1f248$a4a92480$3c7d63d1@texas.net>
Message-ID: <aauk60+113hv@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Amanda" <editor at t...> wrote:
> I just had a thought. Are Canadian DVD players Region 1 or Region 
2? Because
> Canada is PS, not SS. Perhaps you can hook up with a Canadian 
fan....
> 
> --Amanda

Good point, Amanda, and I tried the internet for Canadian DVD sites, 
but just kept getting generic sales sites.  Anyone have a site or 
link?

Darlene




From bray.262 at osu.edu  Fri May  3 15:18:05 2002
From: bray.262 at osu.edu (Rachel Bray)
Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 15:18:05 +0000 (EST5EDT)
Subject: question about Voldemort
Message-ID: <1CA6620BBB@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>

I've got a question.....

I've watched Harry several times now (thanks to a friend 
who downloaded it from somewhere) and I'm wondering....Does 
anyone else think Voldemort looks like a cross between 
Clint Eastwood and Christopher Walken?

Just curious.

Rachel Bray
The Ohio State University
Fees, Deposits and Disbursements


"And in more news today, a local official was 
beaten severely with a door after resigning. Strangely, 
nobody will come forward as a witness."




From b_elliott_walker at yahoo.ca  Fri May  3 21:34:01 2002
From: b_elliott_walker at yahoo.ca (b walker)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 17:34:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: regarding Canuck DVD
Message-ID: <20020503213401.41515.qmail@web20107.mail.yahoo.com>

hey, there!

one of youse asked about canadian releases of HPPS - i
do believe www.chapters.ca would have that. if not,
try www.absound.ca. both are big online music/DVD
retailers.

hope this helps,

byron



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|    Go LEEDS UNITED - Down With the Poncy Scum Gits     |
| ~littera scripta manet   ~    the written word abides~ |
| ~~B. Elliott Walker  ~   b_elliott_walker at yahoo.com ~~ |
+--------------------------------------------------------+

______________________________________________________________________ 
Games, Movies, Music & Sports! http://entertainment.yahoo.ca



From john at walton.vu  Thu May  2 20:37:30 2002
From: john at walton.vu (John Walton)
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 21:37:30 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Anyone know how to get a Region 1 PS on
	DVD??
In-Reply-To: <aas4jh+grti@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <B8F76206.F11B%john@walton.vu>

darlenebuell wrote:

> Thanks, Susanne, but I'm looking for Philosopher's Stone, not
> Sorcerer's Stone.

Try chapters.ca -- the Canadian version IIRC is PS. And should be (a) region
1 & (b) cheaper shipping than Amazon.co.uk.

--John
____________________________________________

"I wished for a moment that I too could be a lesbian."
       -"Michael Novotny", Queer as Folk

John Walton || john at walton.vu || johnwalton.livejournal.com
____________________________________________




From john at walton.vu  Thu May  2 21:37:40 2002
From: john at walton.vu (John Walton)
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 22:37:40 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Anyone know how to get a Region 1 PS on
	DVD??
In-Reply-To: <aasaaj+3a06@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <B8F77034.F13C%john@walton.vu>

kathye_c wrote:

> Unfortunately, they don't make "multi system" dvd players as yet --
> I've looked.  They have DUAL voltage, but no multi-system.  So if
> your dvd player only plays region 1 you're going to have to go with
> the American title.

They do -- they're just very expensive in the USA. Less so in the UK (Yelo
brand).

--John




From ITZregina at hanson.net  Sat May  4 19:35:17 2002
From: ITZregina at hanson.net (River3_98)
Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 19:35:17 -0000
Subject: Spiderman beat HP's opening day
Message-ID: <ab1d5l+rtev@eGroups.com>

  Spiderman sold over 41 million Friday.  Guess is it will be a 110-
120 opening weekend.

Gina




From Dar20 at aol.com  Sun May  5 00:56:44 2002
From: Dar20 at aol.com (darlenebuell)
Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 00:56:44 -0000
Subject: regarding Canuck DVD
In-Reply-To: <20020503213401.41515.qmail@web20107.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ab200c+40nh@eGroups.com>

Hi, Byron,

Thank you very much!  They don't have much info on those sites yet, 
but they may in a couple of weeks.  I'll check back.

Darlene

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., b walker <b_elliott_walker at y...> wrote:
> hey, there!
> 
> one of youse asked about canadian releases of HPPS - i
> do believe www.chapters.ca would have that. if not,
> try www.absound.ca. both are big online music/DVD
> retailers.
> 
> hope this helps,
> 
> byron
> 
> 
> 
> =====
> +--------------------------------------------------------+
> | RIP Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, Her Majesty the Queen Mother |
> |    Go LEEDS UNITED - Down With the Poncy Scum Gits     |
> | ~littera scripta manet   ~    the written word abides~ |
> | ~~B. Elliott Walker  ~   b_elliott_walker at y... ~~ |
> +--------------------------------------------------------+
> 
> 
______________________________________________________________________
 
> Games, Movies, Music & Sports! http://entertainment.yahoo.ca




From ITZregina at hanson.net  Tue May  7 01:19:25 2002
From: ITZregina at hanson.net (River3_98)
Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 01:19:25 -0000
Subject: Promo for DVD!
Message-ID: <ab7a2t+6263@eGroups.com>

"Rupert will be joining all the other main cast members, including 
Daniel and Robbie Coltrane, tomorrow for the launch of The 
Philosopher's Stone on video and DVD.

The cast will appear on the Hogwarts train at Kings Cross Station, 
platform one, for the launch of the video and DVD on Saturday."


I'm looking forward to some new pictures of the cast!

Gina






From vheggie at yahoo.com  Sat May 11 16:00:23 2002
From: vheggie at yahoo.com (vheggie)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 16:00:23 -0000
Subject: Please help me with the DVD and my IT illiteracy!
Message-ID: <abjf6n+sbt1@eGroups.com>

I got the DVD (region 2) delivered this morning (Yay for Amazon), and 
I've spent about 4 hours trying to make it work *sob*.

I can install and play the video (disk one) OK, but I just *cannot* 
work out how to run Disk two.  All I get is the InterActive skin 
witht eh little blue logo, I press 'play', the disk spins 
and....nothing happens; blank screen, no menus or anything.  I've 
tried all sorts of settings, installing and uninstalling time and 
time again, and I just *can't* figure it out.

Has anyone successfully installed it?  I'm running a PC with Windows 
2000 (professional), have *minimal* IT abilities, and no one to ask 
for help - Amazon don't usually take back opened DVDs, so I want to 
be 100% sure it's actually the disks which are broken and not me who 
is stupid before I try to return it...

Please excuse me for cross posting but I'm getting desperate!  Any 
helpful hints off list will be HUGELY appreciated.

Vanessa




From lucy at luphen.co.uk  Sat May 11 20:25:28 2002
From: lucy at luphen.co.uk (Lucy Austin)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 21:25:28 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Please help me with the DVD and my IT illiteracy!
References: <abjf6n+sbt1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c1f929$fdaaf760$5caf1e3e@stephen>

>>Vanessa said:

>>I got the DVD (region 2) delivered this morning (Yay for Amazon), and 
I've spent about 4 hours trying to make it work *sob*.

And double yay for Bensons World - we got the DVD on Friday morning! Watched it twice already!

>>I can install and play the video (disk one) OK, but I just *cannot* 
>>work out how to run Disk two.  All I get is the InterActive skin 
>>witht eh little blue logo, I press 'play', the disk spins 
>>and....nothing happens; blank screen, no menus or anything.  I've 
>>tried all sorts of settings, installing and uninstalling time and 
>>time again, and I just *can't* figure it out.
>>
>>Has anyone successfully installed it?  I'm running a PC with Windows 
>>2000 (professional), have *minimal* IT abilities, and no one to ask 
>>for help - Amazon don't usually take back opened DVDs, so I want to 
>>be 100% sure it's actually the disks which are broken and not me who 
>>is stupid before I try to return it...

To the extent that my non-DVDvideo-playing PC copes, it seems OK on Windows 98, with proper menus etc. Not very helpful, I'm afraid.

Lucy

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From mariawolters at hotmail.com  Sun May 12 05:03:57 2002
From: mariawolters at hotmail.com (Maria Klara Wolters)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 05:03:57 +0000
Subject: Please help me with the DVD and my IT illiteracy!
Message-ID: <F1419Cm8kFxVQ5b0o6G00014471@hotmail.com>



>Subject: Re: Please help me with the DVD and my IT illiteracy!
>
> >>Vanessa said:
>
> >>I got the DVD (region 2) delivered this morning (Yay for Amazon), and
>I've spent about 4 hours trying to make it work *sob*.

I haven't tried this yet myself, but when you click on the Owl in the
entry screen of the first DVD, you're prompted to insert the
second one.

And don't worry about IT illiteracy - the more you worry, the worse it
gets!

cheers,

Maria



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From azingam at yahoo.co.uk  Sun May 12 08:56:21 2002
From: azingam at yahoo.co.uk (azingam)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 08:56:21 -0000
Subject: 'Never-before-seen footage'
Message-ID: <ablanl+m5tq@eGroups.com>

Hello,

Yes, I'm sort of new (as in I've been here before, but not for a 
while) and I have a dire urgency.

I cannot find the extra scenes!! I've looked everywhere on the discs, 
and they just will not reveal themselves.

Admittedly I haven't checked the CD-ROM part, as I haven't had 
chance, but it doesn't say the scenes are on there!!

Is anyone else having trouble? Can anyone point me in the right 
direction? I would be extremely grateful if someone could tell me 
where the bonus footage is!

Allocin





From jamminjerry at madnessmansion.com  Sun May 12 13:31:45 2002
From: jamminjerry at madnessmansion.com (Jarrod Jicha)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 09:31:45 -0400
Subject: movie on dvd, and what to expect.
In-Reply-To: <ablanl+m5tq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020512092911.009f7d30@mail.madnessmansion.com>

Hello there everyone.  This is Jarrod Jicha.  I ordered the dvd on-line 
back in february, and I know the releese date is the 28TH of this 
month.  not sure when buycomp.com is sending it, but anyway, here is the 
question. I am sure the first disk can be put into a dvd player, just push 
play, and you get the movie.  What happenes with the second disk?  also, 
what can I look forward too on the second disk.  I am a visually impaired 
person, and would just like to know what to expect.
thanks in advance.




From Ali at zymurgy.org  Sun May 12 21:43:41 2002
From: Ali at zymurgy.org (alhewison)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 21:43:41 -0000
Subject: 'Never-before-seen footage'
In-Reply-To: <ablanl+m5tq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <abmnmd+r1ka@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "azingam" <azingam at y...> wrote:
> 
> I cannot find the extra scenes!! I've looked everywhere on the 
discs, 
> and they just will not reveal themselves.
> 
> Admittedly I haven't checked the CD-ROM part, as I haven't had 
> chance, but it doesn't say the scenes are on there!!
> 
> Is anyone else having trouble? Can anyone point me in the right 
> direction? I would be extremely grateful if someone could tell me 
> where the bonus footage is!
> 
> 
The extra scenes are in the  second disc, the DVD-Rom section. You 
have to go to Diagon Alley to start with - collect your money and 
wand. Then go to the classroom section and go to Potions. Answer all 
the questions right (you get thrown out and into the hospital section 
each time you get it wrong). Then you have to pick up the damaged 
key. After that you get taken to the Mirror of Erised, where you get 
your hearts desire - the 7 deleted scenes. I haven't tried other 
rooms yet, so it's possible that you can reach the scenes by other 
routes.


Spoiler....






I'm really pleased the Leg-locker scene was left out of the film - 
it's just slapstick. I do wish though that they hadn't cut the scene 
of the first Potions Class. It actually shows Harry standing up for 
himself against Snape. To me it just makes him that bit more feisty 
and more true to the book Harry.

I personally also liked the Uniform scene - it again showed just how 
downtrodden Harry was, it made him lippy and would have provided a 
smooth transition into him going to the door to collect the post.

I still miss Peeves. In an interview for Newsround, Chris Columbus 
said that Peeves would not be in this edition - surely that doesn't 
mean we can expect yet more versions in the future (can we?)


Ali




From plumeski at yahoo.com  Mon May 13 22:57:13 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 22:57:13 -0000
Subject: movie on dvd, and what to expect.
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020512092911.009f7d30@mail.madnessmansion.com>
Message-ID: <abpgc9+g4sg@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Jarrod Jicha <jamminjerry at m...> wrote:
>I am sure the first disk can be put into a dvd player, just push 
> play, and you get the movie.  What happenes with the second disk?  
also, 
> what can I look forward too on the second disk.  I am a visually 
impaired 
> person, and would just like to know what to expect.
> thanks in advance.

Here's a full rundown of the entire content of the second disk which 
I prepared for another forum. Except for the last section listed 
below, the disk is designed to play fine in all standard DVD players.
Most of the material is visual, though, so I'm not sure what value 
it'll be to you. 

This rundown includes "spoilers" about how to get at some of the 
would-be-hidden elements, which I know a couple of people have 
already asked about, and doubtless others will too. :-)

Let's take the content in the most likely/default order:

The main menu has the following items: "Diagon Alley", "Hogwarts 
Tour", "Classrooms", "Sorting Hat", "Library", "Hogwarts 
Grounds", "Interviews", "Extra Credit".

Diagon Alley: get in through the brick wall (it doesn't matter if you 
select the wrong bricks; after 3 goes you're allowed through anyway):

pick up your key (on the Gringotts board) and then get your cash from 
Gringotts (or go to the Bertie Botts box on the desk and listen to 
Dim Dale express delight or repugnance at a couple of flavours);

get your wand from Ollivanders (it doesn't matter which ones you 
choose, you'll always get two "wrong" ones with concommitant 
explosions, and on your third try, you'll get the "Beech wood and 
Dragon Heart-string, 9 inches", followed by an orange-red glow);

look at the owls in Eeylops (NB you have to go "up" before you can go 
across to slect each of the three owls in turn, to hear Jim Dale 
express wonder at the species, nothing more).

The tour of Hogwarts (ie, in order, Gryffindor common room and 
Harry's bedroom, and the Great Hall at Christmas) is, frankly, 
boring. They're not completely photo-realistic (and don't look quite 
like they did in the movie), and Jim Dale's commentary REALLY got on 
my tits (not to mention his rather bizarre pronunciation 
of "Gryffindor", which is unlike anyone else's, and - minor quibble - 
the Americanised script he reads, which jarred with me). The 
phrase "self-guided" on the cover isn't entirely right, either, as 
the options are extremely limited.

Classrooms (you can't get in unless you got your wand from Diagon 
Alley):

DADA: choices: get a few clips of Quirrell from the movie, and a clue 
that the yellow round bottle is the one later in the "challenge" (see 
later);

Charms: choices: clips of Flitwick, more Bertie Botts, and the option 
to watch a clip from the movie (HRH and Hagrid in the grounds after 
the Quidditch match) dubbed into six different languages (*YAWN*).

Potions: choices: clips of Snape or a Potions quiz. 

The quiz is one of two routes (the other in a moment) to the deleted 
scenes. The quiz consists of three questions, the answers to which 
are obvious to anyone who's read the first book: (1) Asphodel and 
Wormwood; (2) Monkshood and Wolfsbane; (3) Snake Fangs and Porcupine 
Quills. Get any of those three wrong, and you go to the infirmary 
before returning for another go. Details of what happens next in a 
moment.

Transfiguration: choices: clips of McGonagall or clips of Dumbledore.

The fifth choice on the Classrooms screen is the much talked-about 
main route to the deleted scenes. Go "down" from Transfigurations, 
select the owls, and then press enter/play again, to highlight 
the "H" and get through to Fluffy. Select the flute, and you're 
though.

This is where that route and the Potions route come together: You're 
in the Keys chamber. Find the key with the broken wing (smack in the 
centre of the door). Then you have to select the right bottle - as 
hinted in the Charms room, it's the round yellow one in the middle of 
the table. Get that right, and you get to the Mirror of Erised with 
the Stone in the middle. Select the Stone and you're through to the 
deleted scenes (presented as moving wizard photos on the wall). 

Details of which scenes are included have been talked about all over 
the place, so I won't bore anyone here with repeating all that.

Next default selection on the main screen is the Sorting Hat - VERY 
disappointing - hear Jim Dale tell you one sentence about each of the 
four houses.

Next default area is the Library: you get to see what's inside five 
books:
The first from the left is the most (only?) interesting one, as it 
shows some of the concept drawings for the Quidditch balls and 
uniforms.
The second is just a clue that you need to use the flute on the 
Fluffy screen to get at the deleted scenes
The third book contains clips of/about some of the main characters 
(Harry, Ron, Hermione, Draco, Wood, Seamus, Neville, Percy, Hooch and 
Filch).
The fourth is clips of the main Hogwarts ghosts and a Jim Dale 
commentary.
The fifth is just the "screaming book" from the movie.

Next up: "Hogwarts Grounds":
"Catch a Snitch" game: waste of time - my reaction was "so what?";
The other quidditch balls lead to a compilation of clips from the 
movie about the rules of the game (*YAWN*);
Fang leads to a tour of Hagrid's hut, just like the Hogwarts one I 
talked about above;
Bertie Botts box: more flavours read out by Jim Dale (*YAWN*).

Next is the "Interviews" item, a 15 minute film of intercut 
interviews with Columbus (in the Great Hall), Kloves (Libary), Heyman 
(Gryff. common room) and Stuart Craig (same) talking about making the 
film, intercut with clips from the film and a few "behind the scenes" 
shots (but not too many). IMO the Heyman contributions are the most 
interesting. He also gets more time than the others.

OK, that's all you get for standalone DVD players. The remaining 
option on the main menu is "Extra Credit" which prompts you for a 
computer DVD drive. It asks to install the InterActive player (the 
three standard DVD software packages I've tried don't give access to 
the special features). Install that, and it asks if you have a mike 
to be used with the much-vaunted voice-activation elements, and goes 
straight to setting it up, which is extremely straightfoward. Read 
one short paragraph and a few numbers into the mike to get voice 
levels, etc, and you're off (no more than a couple of minutes).

The mike doesn't work on all the Disc 2 content listed above. But go 
into the "Extra Credit" section - the InterActive player puts a tidy 
shortcut on its own interface - and you can indeed navigate the 
options via voice commands. However, again, I wasn't impressed with 
any of the content. This was, IMO, EXTREMELY limited:

Get sorted (Ravenclaw in my case), 
several screensavers, 
a memo program called "Remembrall" (which I didn't install, so I 
can't comment), 
demo of the HP&PS game (I didn't bother installing as I've seen it 
before)
demo of the Lego HP game (ditto),
HP Trading Card Game demo (in Flash),
something called "Name Your Owl" (which seems to have something to do 
with email), but I got a screen saying it wasn't fully implemented 
yet, 
links to various HP-related web sites run by Warners.

Hope that helps. :-)





From kechelsen at aol.com  Wed May 15 21:02:22 2002
From: kechelsen at aol.com (kathye_c)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 21:02:22 -0000
Subject: A mistake in the film?
Message-ID: <abuicu+g84r@eGroups.com>

Someone posted this question on another board.  The person said that 
in the scene at the lighthouse when the discussion was going on about 
Harry going to Hogwarts, "Uncle Vernon" said that he wasn't going to 
pay for "DANIEL'S" education -- not "HARRY'S."  I didn't remember 
hearing that -- did anyone else catch that?

Kathy




From siskiou at earthlink.net  Wed May 15 21:22:09 2002
From: siskiou at earthlink.net (Susanne)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 14:22:09 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] A mistake in the film?
In-Reply-To: <abuicu+g84r@eGroups.com>
References: <abuicu+g84r@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <5476475941.20020515142209@earthlink.net>



Hi,

Wednesday, May 15, 2002, 2:02:22 PM, kechelsen at aol.com wrote:

> I didn't remember 
> hearing that -- did anyone else catch that?

No, I don't think he says that.

If I remember this right, no names are mentioned in this
sentence, and Vernon says something along the lines: I will not
pay to have some crackpot teach him magic tricks.

-- 
Best regards,
 Susanne                           mailto:siskiou at earthlink.net




From plumeski at yahoo.com  Thu May 16 01:31:23 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 01:31:23 -0000
Subject: A mistake in the film?
In-Reply-To: <abuicu+g84r@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <abv25b+edi5@eGroups.com>

"kathye_c" <kechelsen at a...> wrote:
> Someone posted this question on another board.  The person said 
that 
> in the scene at the lighthouse when the discussion was going on 
about 
> Harry going to Hogwarts, "Uncle Vernon" said that he wasn't going 
to 
> pay for "DANIEL'S" education -- not "HARRY'S."  I didn't remember 
> hearing that -- did anyone else catch that?

Someone's having you on.

Straight fdrom the DVD: The quote is, "I'll not have some crackpot 
old fool teaching him magic tricks". 

Though the way Griffiths spits out "I'll", adding a remnant of 
a "Duh" in front of it, someone might have mis-hard the sound as 
something approaching "Daniel" - of course the sentence wouldn't make 
sense. :-)






From kechelsen at aol.com  Thu May 16 20:23:42 2002
From: kechelsen at aol.com (kathye_c)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 20:23:42 -0000
Subject: A mistake in the film?
In-Reply-To: <abv25b+edi5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ac14ge+edfm@eGroups.com>

<<Someone's having you on.

Straight fdrom the DVD: The quote is, "I'll not have some crackpot 
old fool teaching him magic tricks". 
 
Though the way Griffiths spits out "I'll", adding a remnant of 
a "Duh" in front of it, someone might have mis-hard the sound as 
something approaching "Daniel" - of course the sentence wouldn't make 
sense. :-) >>

That's what I thought...I didn't think such a mistake would have been 
allowed to get through the editing process, and I'm sure I would have 
heard it, and remembered it, if it had been said <g>

Thank goodness some of you already have the DVD <G>  

Kathy




From azingam at yahoo.co.uk  Thu May 16 20:26:42 2002
From: azingam at yahoo.co.uk (azingam)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 20:26:42 -0000
Subject: "What a mess you've made of yourself" - spoiler for DVD extras
Message-ID: <ac14m2+phek@eGroups.com>

Yup, back again. And yup, it's about the DVD again. Now I don't know 
whether I have a defunct copy or if it's just my crappy ole player 
(Aiwa, dunno what make) but as soon as I get past the keys I catch a 
quick glimpse of the potion bottles and then BOOM! I'm in the 
Hospital Wing. But I haven't touched a bottle. I can have the remote 
on the other side of the room and it still does it. Is anyone else 
having this problem? I'd check it on another DVD player but no one 
has any!

Allocin





From psyche_dream at yahoo.co.uk  Sat May 18 12:46:21 2002
From: psyche_dream at yahoo.co.uk (psyche_dream)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 12:46:21 -0000
Subject: "What a mess you've made of yourself" - spoiler for DVD extras
In-Reply-To: <ac14m2+phek@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ac5iet+6q9b@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "azingam" <azingam at y...> wrote:
> Yup, back again. And yup, it's about the DVD again. Now I don't 
know 
> whether I have a defunct copy or if it's just my crappy ole player 
> (Aiwa, dunno what make) but as soon as I get past the keys I catch 
a 
> quick glimpse of the potion bottles and then BOOM! I'm in the 
> Hospital Wing. But I haven't touched a bottle. I can have the 
remote 
> on the other side of the room and it still does it. Is anyone else 
> having this problem? I'd check it on another DVD player but no one 
> has any!
> 
> Allocin

Hi Allocin *g* (not stalking you, I joined this group soon after I 
got the DVD)

How long do you get to look at the bottles before things go 'boom'?  
I think you only have 30 seconds to pick a bottle anyway, but if 
we're talking seconds for you, then maybe you do have a glitch:(  

Adia
X





From azingam at yahoo.co.uk  Mon May 20 18:09:32 2002
From: azingam at yahoo.co.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Allocin?=)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 19:09:32 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Booming Potions
In-Reply-To: <ac5iet+6q9b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20020520180932.17079.qmail@web14913.mail.yahoo.com>

 --- psyche_dream <psyche_dream at yahoo.co.uk> wrote: 
Hi Allocin *g* (not stalking you, I joined this group soon after I 
got the DVD)

How long do you get to look at the bottles before things go 'boom'?  
I think you only have 30 seconds to pick a bottle anyway, but if 
we're talking seconds for you, then maybe you do have a glitch:(  


You'd follow me to the loo if you had the chance! *g*

In regards to the potions, it's literally as soon as the screen pops up
that it goes BANG!

In regards to the other email you sent me, you should feel both
priveliged and annoyed.

Allocin



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From Felicia_Rickmann at mac.com  Tue May 21 19:29:15 2002
From: Felicia_Rickmann at mac.com (feliciarickmann)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 19:29:15 -0000
Subject: DVD - anyone an expert here?
In-Reply-To: <20020520180932.17079.qmail@web14913.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ace76b+rk5o@eGroups.com>

I am operating the DVD on an older version of WinDVD - contra to the 
feeble protestations of InterActive (which tried to wreck my 
computer..but never mind...) Is this the reason I find it so 
difficult to navigate around the second disc?  

This is my first "interactive" type DVD. (The furtherest I got before 
that watching "Truly Madly Deeply" with subtitles on as the work 
computer doesn't have a sound cars ;-) )

Any tips from those with superior knowledge would be gratefullt 
received!  As would a new DVD reader.......

Felicia





From plumeski at yahoo.com  Wed May 22 00:38:01 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 00:38:01 -0000
Subject: DVD - anyone an expert here?
In-Reply-To: <ace76b+rk5o@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <acep99+51al@eGroups.com>

"feliciarickmann" <Felicia_Rickmann at m...> wrote:
> I am operating the DVD on an older version of WinDVD - contra to 
the 
> feeble protestations of InterActive (which tried to wreck my 
> computer..but never mind...) Is this the reason I find it so 
> difficult to navigate around the second disc?  
> 
> This is my first "interactive" type DVD. (The furtherest I got 
before 
> that watching "Truly Madly Deeply" with subtitles on as the work 
> computer doesn't have a sound cars ;-) )
> 
> Any tips from those with superior knowledge would be gratefullt 
> received!  As would a new DVD reader.......

Both InterActive and Warners have commented on the problems some 
people have been having (you're far from alone, although I personally 
have had no problems). 

InterActual suggest downloading the latest version of their player 
from their website, as that's not the version included on the DVD - 
http://player.interactual.com/

I don't know where you live, but Warner Bros UK have provided a 
London phone number to call to get sent a free replacement second 
disk, which they admit has difficulties with some players and/or 
software: 020 8948 5345. 

P.S. As for replacement software for your old copy of WinDVD, then 
short of buying an up-to-date package, the only suggestions I have 
are technically illegal. :-) Although I'm sure there must be a 
freeware DVD player somewhere online, I'm sorry but I don't have the 
time to search right now.

I hope that's of some help, and good luck!





From heidi at blaydz.com  Wed May 22 23:55:20 2002
From: heidi at blaydz.com (heidi at blaydz.com)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 16:55:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: A question for those who have watched 1000 times
Message-ID: <20020522165521.16377.h003.c001.wm@mail.blaydz.com.criticalpath.net>

Since most of us are just sitting, waiting patiently
for the DVD as
well as the next book, I was wondering if anyone
noticed the 
structure of the bricks at Platform 9 3/4? According to
a friend who's
an architect, the formation of a long brick followed by
a very short
brick, and so on, is called "Flemish Bond", and was
used around
1700 for a short time. So either the prop people were
exceedingly
detailed in their research, or they filmed in a place
of "wizarding age".
Does anyone know more about this?

Amazon shipped my copy today. I'm hoping it will come
by the weekend
so I can spend the holiday stupefyingly occupied.
Somehow Amazon 
has been shipping everything early lately - I got a
copy of Auel's latest 
book a full week early, not that it mattered in the
end. Rotten book.

Heidi





From john at walton.vu  Wed May 22 23:59:11 2002
From: john at walton.vu (John Walton)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 00:59:11 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] A question for those who have watched 1000 times
In-Reply-To: <20020522165521.16377.h003.c001.wm@mail.blaydz.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <B911EF5F.10792%john@walton.vu>

heidi at blaydz.com wrote:

> Since most of us are just sitting, waiting patiently for the DVD as well as
> the next book, I was wondering if anyone noticed the structure of the bricks
> at Platform 9 3/4? According to a friend who's an architect, the formation of
> a long brick followed by a very short brick, and so on, is called "Flemish
> Bond", and was used around 1700 for a short time. So either the prop people
> were exceedingly detailed in their research, or they filmed in a place of
> "wizarding age". Does anyone know more about this?

The filming of Platform 9 3/4 took place on King's Cross Station in London.
The stonework therefore is most unlikely to predate the British railway
network. IIRC the stonework pattern in King's Cross is similar to many other
"red-brick" buildings of its period. You'll be able to find more info on
Google, I'm certain :)

HTH.

--John
____________________________________________

Remember: Socks then Shoes.

John Walton || john at walton.vu
____________________________________________






From plumeski at yahoo.com  Thu May 23 20:57:17 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 20:57:17 -0000
Subject: DVD: Fullscreen -v- widescreen
Message-ID: <acjl3d+tsbu@eGroups.com>

I made some comments last week comparing the two releases.

I've now made a web page with some pictures to illustrate what I was 
talking about, which you folks who haven't decided which format to 
buy might find interesting:

http://plum.cream.org/HP/dvd.htm

Comments welcome. ;-)





From A.E.B.Bevan at open.ac.uk  Fri May 24 12:01:20 2002
From: A.E.B.Bevan at open.ac.uk (edisbevan)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 12:01:20 -0000
Subject: All - Movie 'Mistakes' register
Message-ID: <acla2g+adnc@eGroups.com>

Movie Mistakes pages

This site offers an interactive register of mistakes, continuity 
fluffs, and other bloopers in major films.

http://www.movie-mistakes.com/index.php

HP and the PS/SS is there with 50 recorded alleged errors. These are 
NOt book/film differences but things like Hagrid giving Harry the 
photo album on the Station platform but when Harry gets onto the 
train he isnt carrying a book.

For a real panning see 'Titanic', with 137 errors noted.

Edis




From Joanne0012 at aol.com  Fri May 24 12:51:34 2002
From: Joanne0012 at aol.com (joanne0012)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 12:51:34 -0000
Subject: DVD: Fullscreen -v- widescreen
In-Reply-To: <acjl3d+tsbu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <acld0m+n5u5@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "GulPlum" <plumeski at y...> wrote:
> I made some comments last week comparing the two releases.
> 
> I've now made a web page with some pictures to illustrate what I was 
> talking about, which you folks who haven't decided which format to 
> buy might find interesting:
> 
> http://plum.cream.org/HP/dvd.htm
> 
> Comments welcome. ;-)

Thank you SO much for putting this together, what a great service!  

It's been my understanding that the "full screen" editions of movies are usually 
created by lopping off the sides of the wide-screen edition.  Without this 
comparison for HPPS, I might have automatically bought the wide-screen version, 
for fear of losing the sides of the images and getting nothing in exchange.  But 
now, I've decided to get the full-screen, since the wide-screen image would 
presumably be scaled-down in order to fit the full width of the image on the TV 
screen.

I guess it's safe to assume that the visuals for HPSS here in the US will be the 
same as for your copies of HPPS?




From ITZregina at hanson.net  Fri May 24 14:48:25 2002
From: ITZregina at hanson.net (River3_98)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 14:48:25 -0000
Subject: COS Trailer
Message-ID: <acljrp+5ie4@eGroups.com>

Rumor has it that the trailer is finished and is going to be attatched
to the Scooby Doo movie.


http://www.kelwick.karoo.net/TheUsher-HushHush-HarryPotter2.htm





From caliburncy at yahoo.com  Fri May 24 16:56:23 2002
From: caliburncy at yahoo.com (caliburncy)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 16:56:23 -0000
Subject: DVD: Fullscreen -v- widescreen
In-Reply-To: <acld0m+n5u5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aclrbn+js3s@eGroups.com>

Hi,

I haven't posted here on the Movie list in ages, but I figured I 
might be able to help out with this.

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "joanne0012" <Joanne0012 at a...> wrote:
> It's been my understanding that the "full screen" editions of
> movies are usually created by lopping off the sides of the wide-
> screen edition.

Right, this is a technique called "panning-and-scanning".  However, 
this is not the technique being used by the HP DVD.

This is difficult to explain without pictures, so you'll have to bear 
with me.  If you want pictures, check out 
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~leopold/Ld/FilmToVideo/

His explanation might be easier to understand than mine, too--I don't 
know.  I have tried to simplify mine, and make it address more 
closely the matter at hand, but I may not have succeeded.

Now then, let's start from the beginning before we move on to Harry 
Potter:

You see, it used to be that widescreen movies were generally filmed 
either with an anamorphic lens or a hard matte.  This meant that all 
the picture area that made it onto the film was all the area that you 
would see in the theatre.  There was no extra.  So, when it came time 
to convert to a T.V. aspect ratio, they had no choice but to lose 
picture off the sides (the aforemention "pan-and-scan").  The 
downside here should be obvious, in that we are losing picture we 
were supposed to see.

Then there was soft matting, which meant that there was extra picture 
area being filmed above and/or below the picture that was actually 
used in the theatre.  (i.e. a whole square area of picture is filmed, 
but only a rectangle that fits *inside* that square is what goes to 
the theatre)  This means there was extra, ununused material, which 
they can now add back in when they convert to a T.V. aspect ratio (so 
this doesn't count as "pan-and-scan").  The downside to including 
this extra picture is that it was not altogether uncommon early on 
for microphones and other things you're not supposed to see to show 
up in that extra picture area.  It also frequently ruined the proper 
sense of perspective you would get from the widescreen version, since 
the extra picture tended to be superfluous.

Then there is Super 35, which I believe is the type of film that was 
used for Harry Potter.  Now, Super 35 has an aspect ratio that is 
different from both standard theatre ratios and from a T.V.'s aspect 
ratio (it's inbetween the two at about 1.6:1 ).  So, when a film is 
being shot in Super 35, the director generally films it in such a way 
so that he can get both the picture he wants for the theatre version 
*and another version* for the T.V. version, by leaving off some of 
the filmed material in *both* versions.  Which is why, as you will 
see on GulPlum's page, the widescreen version has picture that the 
full screen version does not have, but the fullscreen version *also* 
has picture that the widescreen version does not have.

See http://www.widescreen.org/aspect_ratios.shtml#Super35
for further demonstration and elaboration.

This has made everyone's life very difficult.  It used to be that the 
choice was obvious: one wanted the widescreen version, because it 
preserves the theatrical experience.  Technically, this is still 
true, even with movies filmed on Super 35.  But the reason 
enthusiasts wanted the widescreen version was not just the 
preservation of the theatrical experience, but also the preservation 
of the artistic vision.  Unfortunately, with directors being careful 
to make, effectively, two versions of the same film, the distinction 
of which one is really the "integrity-upholding version" is more 
difficult to determine.  With the vast majority of directors, the 
answer would be that the widescreen version was almost certainly 
their intended medium for the integrity of what they wanted to have 
on film.  This presumption is upheld by interviews with most of them.

But with Columbus, it is entirely possible that he is the exception 
to the rule (we don't know without talking to him), since looking at 
GulPlum shots show that several scenes were designed to display 
particularly well in the "full screen" version (even at the slight 
expense of the widescreen version).  Of course, there are many shots 
that are clearly intended to display better in widescreen, as well, 
but as GulPlum notes, these seem a tad less frequent (although when 
they display better, they display *much* better, like the 
invisibility cloak screenshot).

So, anyway, we film enthusiasts are still most certainly going to buy 
the widescreen version, if for no other reason than to dissuade home 
video distribution companies from perpetuating this nonsense 
with "full screen" stuff in the first place.  But I can understand 
why, for the less film-obsessive, the decision would be less clear, 
since there is no matter of principle to be upheld.  For these, 
people, you can get whatever looks better to you, I suppose.  But if 
you want what you saw in the theatre, that's the widescreen version.  
The "full screen" version may be better or it may be worse, but 
either way it *is* different.

The only other distinction I am aware of between the two versions 
besides what GulPlum's site has shown you is that, supposedly, the 
master and/or transfer used for the widescreen version has a cleaner-
looking picture.  Apparently, neither transfer is quite up to the 
best of DVD reference quality standards, but the widescreen transfer 
is allegedly better in this regard.  I don't know to what extent, 
probably not too terribly much.

Good luck!  And I hope that actually made some sense, but knowing my 
meagre explanatory skills, it probably didn't.

-Luke




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Fri May 24 17:23:12 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (feliciarickmann)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 17:23:12 -0000
Subject: All - Movie 'Mistakes' register
In-Reply-To: <acla2g+adnc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aclsu0+pvga@eGroups.com>

> HP and the PS/SS is there with 50 recorded alleged errors. These 
are 
> Not book/film differences but things like Hagrid giving Harry the 
> photo album on the Station platform but when Harry gets onto the 
> train he isn't carrying a book.
> 

Maybe someone can tell me WHY people go hunting for errors.  

This is not a criticism I would just like to know.  Once or twice I 
have found an odd thing but never to the extent of enumerating list 
of errors just for the * fun * of it? Is it a bit like train 
spotting??

Felicia

p.s. Many grateful thanks to GulPlum - I am in receipt of a new 2nd 
DVD and about to try it out - wish me luck!





From divaclv at aol.com  Fri May 24 15:39:27 2002
From: divaclv at aol.com (c_voth312)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 15:39:27 -0000
Subject: DVD: Fullscreen -v- widescreen
In-Reply-To: <acjl3d+tsbu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aclmrf+f0i4@eGroups.com>

So, are the fullscreen and widescreen versions going to be released 
seperately, or will they both be included on the same DVD?

I still prefer the widescreen, incidentally--if only because only two-
and-a-half of Fluffy's heads will fit into the fullscreen format ;-)

~Christi





From divaclv at aol.com  Fri May 24 15:41:03 2002
From: divaclv at aol.com (c_voth312)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 15:41:03 -0000
Subject: COS Trailer
In-Reply-To: <acljrp+5ie4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aclmuf+2a3q@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "River3_98" <ITZregina at h...> wrote:
> Rumor has it that the trailer is finished and is going to be 
attatched
> to the Scooby Doo movie.
> 

GAAAAAH!  They would attatch it to the one summer film I have no 
interest whatsoever in seeing >:-(...ah well, there's always computer 
download.

~Christi




From plumeski at yahoo.com  Fri May 24 19:09:16 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 19:09:16 -0000
Subject: DVD: Fullscreen -v- widescreen
In-Reply-To: <aclmrf+f0i4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <acm34s+9d0j@eGroups.com>

"c_voth312" <divaclv at a...> wrote:
> So, are the fullscreen and widescreen versions going to be released 
> seperately, or will they both be included on the same DVD?

They're sold separately - look at any of the retail sites for 
evidence.

The VHS video (in the UK, at least) is available ONLY as full-screen, 
though.






From plumeski at yahoo.com  Fri May 24 19:04:28 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 19:04:28 -0000
Subject: DVD: Fullscreen -v- widescreen
In-Reply-To: <aclrbn+js3s@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <acm2rs+geas@eGroups.com>

"caliburncy" <caliburncy at y...> wrote:

<snip lengthy pan & scan explanation - not exactly germane to the 
narrow subject under discussion :-) >

> Then there is Super 35, which I believe is the type of film that 
was 
> used for Harry Potter.  

Yup.

<snip Super 35 explanation>

> But with Columbus, it is entirely possible that he is the exception 
> to the rule (we don't know without talking to him), 

He's not entirely the exception to the rule - James Cameron (Aliens, 
Terminator & T2, Titanic) has alweays maintained that *for HIS films* 
(all shot on Super 35), the "full screen version" is his preference 
for home viewing. He took this into account during filming, and it is 
very deliberate on his part.

Of course, there are people (like me) who prefer the *experience* of 
watching a widescreen picture, regardless of whether or not it has 
more detail (incidentally, my main TV is not currently a widescreen 
one - I'm waiting for 50" Plasma screens to come down to my price 
range) :-) and so "authorial intent" isn't really the first priority. 

My purpose in doing the comparisons and setting up the page was to 
decide (primarily for myself) what Columbus's intentions might have 
been, considering he's never said anything on this subject himself.

> GulPlum shots show that several scenes were designed to display 
> particularly well in the "full screen" version (even at the slight 
> expense of the widescreen version).  Of course, there are many 
shots 
> that are clearly intended to display better in widescreen, as well, 
> but as GulPlum notes, these seem a tad less frequent (although when 
> they display better, they display *much* better, like the 
> invisibility cloak screenshot).

I wouldn't use the term "tad" in these circumstances. :-) To give you 
some kind of idea, in numerical terms, I started off with well over 
200 shots (almost all from different scenes) where the full screen 
composition was (IMO, at least) superior to the widescreen one, 
whereas I had to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find the reverse.

It all boils down to a personal opinion of what is more important to 
you, both in terms of the "movie-watching experience", and in terms 
of the straightfroward information on screen. As far as I'm 
concerned, the first category is the most important and I'll therfore 
always go for widescreen, given the choice. As for the second 
category, Fluffy The Two-And-A-Half Headed Dog and the chess board 
with only four pawns per player were enough to turn me off the full 
screen version. A few other moments (such as the Invisibility Cloak 
scene, Hedwig's excision in the Leaky Couldron or - Dean Thomas's 
frequent excision from frame edges) helped.

I accept that other people's opinion might be different, which is why 
I refuse to be judgmental about those who might prefer the full 
screen version. I do, however, remain judgmental about Columbus, who 
quite simply is incapable of making his mind up about what format 
he's filming. Either one or the other (or both, as is the case with 
Cameron) is fine with me, but his "point the camera in the general 
vicinity of the action and fix the composotion in editing" pisses me 
off tremendously.

I was tempted to create a third section of pictures, namely those 
that simply DO NOT WORK in widescreen - Columbus seems to seek out 
reasons to introduce vertical elements into the widescreen frame to 
visually cut off (and emphasise) visual data he considers to be 
spurious. Examples of this are the first entrance into the Great 
Hall, where he uses the opening doors as such an element; also 
Dumbledore sitting in his chair/throne, which has vivid sides cutting 
it off from what's on either side of it; very noticeably, any scene 
which includes pillars is shot in such a way that their positions 
scream out "don't bother looking either side of us".

> So, anyway, we film enthusiasts are still most certainly going to 
buy 
> the widescreen version, if for no other reason than to dissuade 
home 
> video distribution companies from perpetuating this nonsense 
> with "full screen" stuff in the first place.  

I agree with you 100% on that. I've been given to understand that Wal-
Mart in the USA, for reasons of its own, discourages its shops from 
stocking widescreen VHS/DVDs and they need to be shown to be wrong.

> But I can understand 
> why, for the less film-obsessive, the decision would be less clear, 
> since there is no matter of principle to be upheld.  For these, 
> people, you can get whatever looks better to you, I suppose.  But 
if 
> you want what you saw in the theatre, that's the widescreen 
version.  
> The "full screen" version may be better or it may be worse, but 
> either way it *is* different.

Which is exactly the source of my own ambivalence. It is *very* 
different, and more often than not, I prefer the composition of the 
full-screen picture, which it's very difficult for me to admit. 
People have been lynched in Widescreen advocacy circles for making 
such comments in the past. :-) 

> The only other distinction I am aware of between the two versions 
> besides what GulPlum's site has shown you is that, supposedly, the 
> master and/or transfer used for the widescreen version has a 
cleaner-
> looking picture.  Apparently, neither transfer is quite up to the 
> best of DVD reference quality standards, but the widescreen 
transfer 
> is allegedly better in this regard.  I don't know to what extent, 
> probably not too terribly much.

Well, on my DVD player and TV set (both decent quality) I couldn't 
tell any difference (I watched both pictures side-by-side, then 
separately - in the space of two days, I'd seen the whole film four 
times, and then extended chunks three times more!). One comment I 
will make, though, is that the full-screen version appears to have 
been distroed quite severely at various points to make as much of the 
picture fit the screen as was the case.

> Good luck!  And I hope that actually made some sense, but knowing 
my 
> meagre explanatory skills, it probably didn't.

Well, it make sense to me, but then I already understood all the ins 
and outs of your explanation. :-)

-- 
GulPlum AKA Richard




From plumeski at yahoo.com  Fri May 24 19:30:57 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 19:30:57 -0000
Subject: DVD: Fullscreen -v- widescreen
In-Reply-To: <acm2rs+geas@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <acm4dh+t6p0@eGroups.com>

(apologies - small correction reqired to my previous post to make the 
point I had intended)

"GulPlum" <plumeski at y...> wrote:

> To give you 
> some kind of idea, in numerical terms, I started off with well over 
> 200 shots (almost all from different scenes) where the full screen 
> composition was (IMO, at least) superior to the widescreen one, 
> whereas I had to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find the 
reverse.

That last bit was meant to read "... the bottom of the barrel to find 
*SIXTY* examples of the reverse. And several of those where just 
variations from single scenes". 








From plumeski at yahoo.com  Fri May 24 19:23:14 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 19:23:14 -0000
Subject: All - Movie 'Mistakes' register
In-Reply-To: <aclsu0+pvga@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <acm3v2+75cp@eGroups.com>

"feliciarickmann" <feliciarickmann at d...> wrote:
> Maybe someone can tell me WHY people go hunting for errors.  
> 
> This is not a criticism I would just like to know.  Once or twice I 
> have found an odd thing but never to the extent of enumerating list 
> of errors just for the * fun * of it? Is it a bit like train 
> spotting??

Perhaps, a bit. It's certainly something men are far more likely to 
engage in than women, because we have a thing about making lists.

The primary reasoning, though, is little more than showing off: "I'm 
more observant than you, and I noticed something you didn't see".

BTW despite having been out only a short time, Star Wars Ep II has 
had a LOT of entries on various movie mistakes sites...

> p.s. Many grateful thanks to GulPlum - I am in receipt of a new 2nd 
> DVD and about to try it out - wish me luck!

Good luck. :-)





From catlady at wicca.net  Sat May 25 03:48:47 2002
From: catlady at wicca.net (catlady_de_los_angeles)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 03:48:47 -0000
Subject: DVD: Fullscreen -v- widescreen
In-Reply-To: <acjl3d+tsbu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <acn1iv+2vu4@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "GulPlum" <plumeski at y...> wrote:

> I made some comments last week comparing the two releases.
> I've now made a web page with some pictures to illustrate what
> I was talking about http://plum.cream.org/HP/dvd.htm

Thank you for that page. It was VERY interesting and rather 
depressing. I long ago pre-ordered the widescreen version, and I 
don't want a version that chops off the G of Gryffindor from the 
scoreboard, but I also disapprove of a version that cuts off the /4 
of Platform 9 3/4, not to mention turning the 9 into a 0.  






From eleri at aracnet.com  Sat May 25 18:33:16 2002
From: eleri at aracnet.com (CB)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 11:33:16 -0700
Subject: All - Movie 'Mistakes' register
In-Reply-To: <1022284100.295.58548.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020525112856.00aa0100@mail.aracnet.com>

At 11:48 PM 5/24/02 +0000, you wrote:
>Message: 5
>    Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 17:23:12 -0000
>    From: "feliciarickmann" <feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com>
>Subject: Re: All - Movie 'Mistakes' register
>
> > HP and the PS/SS is there with 50 recorded alleged errors. These
>are
> > Not book/film differences but things like Hagrid giving Harry the
> > photo album on the Station platform but when Harry gets onto the
> > train he isn't carrying a book.
> >
>
>Maybe someone can tell me WHY people go hunting for errors.
>
>This is not a criticism I would just like to know.  Once or twice I
>have found an odd thing but never to the extent of enumerating list
>of errors just for the * fun * of it? Is it a bit like train
>spotting??

I was reading through those the other day, for several movies, and there 
are some 'mistakes' that you would only be able to see my going though the 
movies a few frames at a time. Some of them are so tiny you wonder how they 
matter. There's a difference between glaring error that disrupts movie 
continuity, and things like matching dirt smudges at the beginning and the 
end of a movie (that one was in the LotR list!)

Charlene




From nethilia at yahoo.com  Sun May 26 02:12:56 2002
From: nethilia at yahoo.com (Nethilia)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 19:12:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Early DVD review--no spoilers
In-Reply-To: <1022359461.509.22385.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20020526021256.95113.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com>

Yah, I haven't posted here a while, but I got to see
the DVD today. (My sister's roommate borrowed a copy
from her job at Hollywood Video). I still have to buy
my own copy though--she only rented it. 

It's very good from what I saw, but she rented
Widescreen. I think I'll make my personal copy
Standard. 

--Neth 

=====
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Wand: Dragon Heartstring, Ash, 7 inches
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From ShelaghC at aol.com  Wed May 29 01:50:45 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 01:50:45 -0000
Subject: Extra footage
Message-ID: <ad1c5l+dbhi@eGroups.com>

Can *anyone* tell me how to get past this stupid game of mixing 
potions so I can just see the blasted scenes?

Please!

Shelagh
totally disgusted at this point with this whole DVD





From caliburncy at yahoo.com  Wed May 29 04:25:15 2002
From: caliburncy at yahoo.com (caliburncy)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 04:25:15 -0000
Subject: Extra footage
In-Reply-To: <ad1c5l+dbhi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ad1l7b+8vv4@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "shelaghcol" <ShelaghC at a...> wrote:
> Can *anyone* tell me how to get past this stupid game of mixing 
> potions so I can just see the blasted scenes?
> 
> Please!

I don't have the DVD myself, so I cannot verify the accuracy of this 
information, but The Digital Bits has a step-by-step walkthrough for 
all this game nonsense.  It's in their review, at the very bottom:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews2/harrypottersorcerersstone.html

Also, may I just say that I agree with their sentiments with regards 
to the HP DVD's extra features 100%?  I suppose I understand why 
Warner Bros. targeted the disc toward children, but they seem to have 
completely ignored adults in the process, which is a bit silly for 
something they claim is a "family film", and even sillier for 
something with the widespread appeal of HP.

Also, you'll notice that underneath The Bits' walkthrough, it 
mentions that the deleted scenes are Titles 27-33, the knowledge of 
which may allow you to bypass all the silliness, although they 
couldn't figure out how themselves.  Well, at DVD File's review, they 
say the following:

"(Here's a hint: just use your remote's Title access feature (set 
Chapter to 1) and you can access all of the video pieces on the disc 
directly. But with nearly 100 separate titles, it is still a chore.)"

So perhaps by combining these two tidbits of information, you will 
find a way to access the features without having to play all the 
games.

Good luck!  I understand the frustration, although I have not yet had 
the, err, privilege of experiencing it myself.

-Luke




From caliburncy at yahoo.com  Wed May 29 04:28:00 2002
From: caliburncy at yahoo.com (caliburncy)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 04:28:00 -0000
Subject: Extra footage
In-Reply-To: <ad1l7b+8vv4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ad1lcg+3s6r@eGroups.com>

Oops.  I forgot to include a URL for the DVD File's review, which I 
feel obligated to do since I quoted a very small portion of it.  
Anyway, it's at

http://www.dvdfile.com/software/review/dvd-
video_4/harrypotter_sorcerersstone.html

on the off chance that you need it, or are interested.

-Luke




From scully931 at yahoo.com  Wed May 29 05:31:10 2002
From: scully931 at yahoo.com (Scully931)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 05:31:10 -0000
Subject: Extra footage
In-Reply-To: <ad1c5l+dbhi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ad1p2u+jt6@eGroups.com>

You got to the potions?! I can't even get the sticking GAME to work! 
Absolutely NOTHING! And, I DO have Interacutal player. Is that what 
you're playing with? I am SO frustrated. Everytime I get to the 
game, my mouse disappears. Does anyone have ANY suggestions?! 
Pleeeeze! 

Deborah

PS - How do you see the deleted scenes if you are playing it on a 
regular DVD player? Or can't you? 

PPS - This game thing was a good idea gone bad.

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "shelaghcol" <ShelaghC at a...> wrote:
> Can *anyone* tell me how to get past this stupid game of mixing 
> potions so I can just see the blasted scenes?
> 
> Please!
> 
> Shelagh
> totally disgusted at this point with this whole DVD




From nansie at bigsky.net  Wed May 29 05:51:58 2002
From: nansie at bigsky.net (nabsie)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 05:51:58 -0000
Subject: For extra footage instructions, see Message 2434
In-Reply-To: <ad1p2u+jt6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ad1q9u+fmaf@eGroups.com>

See Message 2434 for detailed instructions on how to get to the extra 
footage. They sure helped me!

--nansie in mt






From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Wed May 29 06:54:26 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 07:54:26 +0100
Subject: Extra footage
References: <ad1c5l+dbhi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00a201c206dd$ac616bc0$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>


  Can *anyone* tell me how to get past this stupid game of mixing 
  potions so I can just see the blasted scenes?

  Please!

  Shelagh
  totally disgusted at this point with this whole DVD


  Just remember what Severus Snape says in the film for the first two and the third one (!) just think of pricking something!!

  By the way you want the yellow bottle in the next bit....
  Felicia


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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Wed May 29 06:52:25 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 07:52:25 +0100
Subject: See Message 2434 - of maybe it's faulty
References: <ad1q9u+fmaf@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <009c01c206dd$6a382a40$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>


  See Message 2434 for detailed instructions on how to get to the extra 
  footage. They sure helped me!

  --nansie in mt

  There is also the possibility you have a faulty DVD - I did.  Can you try it on someone else's or are you the most high tech person on your block???

  Felicia


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From ShelaghC at aol.com  Wed May 29 12:35:39 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 12:35:39 -0000
Subject: movie on dvd, and what to expect.
In-Reply-To: <abpgc9+g4sg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ad2hur+ghpd@eGroups.com>

I finally got through the whole mess through trial and error last 
night - didn't see the postings about this posting until this morning.

However, just to see how it worked, I tried going through the mess 
again this morning as well. For some reason, my only choices in the 
Transfiguration Class are to see the clips of McGonagall and 
Dumbledore - there's nothing else at all to highlight or look at. Is 
it possible I have one of the defective disks if the owl choice is 
missing? 

I'm wondering if it was originally set up to go through any of the 
classrooms in order to find your way to the deleted scenes eventually.

Also, does anyone know if eventually there's to be an extended 
version with these and other scenes inserted (much like Fellowship of 
the Rings November release)?

Thanks

Shelagh





--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "GulPlum" <plumeski at y...> wrote:
> Transfiguration: choices: clips of McGonagall or clips of 
Dumbledore.
> 
> The fifth choice on the Classrooms screen is the much talked-about 
> main route to the deleted scenes. Go "down" from Transfigurations, 
> select the owls, and then press enter/play again, to highlight 
> the "H" and get through to Fluffy. Select the flute, and you're 
> though.
> 





From editor at texas.net  Wed May 29 13:24:21 2002
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 08:24:21 -0500
Subject: The full classroom scene
Message-ID: <005401c20714$26144c40$277763d1@texas.net>

I must say, I can't see what purpose cutting the potions classroom scene
had. The full scene was very effective and established that the dislike ran
both ways, right from the start. And it made it clear that Snape's dislike
was very real, not just Harry's impression. It would have supported the
"Snape as the bad guy" premise nicely, and it was very close to what
actually happened in the book. Alas for the editor's scissors!

Anyone notice a definite difference in Snape's voice--it's often vague and
kind of "floating," but when he's speaking directly to Harry in the deleted
part, or when he's confronting Quirrell in the hallway, it's very sharp and
focused. I noticed because, at the end of the full classroom scene, when
he's been talking to Harry and then asks everyone why they're not writing it
down, the way his voice changes is noticeable--from the intense voice, to
Harry, to that vaguer "Well?" to the class. Anyone else think this?

For those who haven't found it yet--the additional footage is what you get
when you find the stone. There are two ways to find it, by going through the
tests in the Potions classroom, or by going down the third-floor corridor
(accessed on the classrooms page by highlighting the owls holding up the
torch; you must do it twice).

I haven't put it into a DVD player for the Extra Credit stuff; I just fooled
with it on my DVD player.

--Amanda




From mariawolters at hotmail.com  Wed May 29 13:38:22 2002
From: mariawolters at hotmail.com (mariawolters)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 13:38:22 -0000
Subject: The full classroom scene
In-Reply-To: <005401c20714$26144c40$277763d1@texas.net>
Message-ID: <ad2lke+uifs@eGroups.com>

> The full scene was very effective and established that the dislike ran
> both ways, right from the start. And it made it clear that Snape's
dislike
> was very real, not just Harry's impression. 
[...]
> Anyone notice a definite difference in Snape's voice--it's often
vague and
> kind of "floating," but when he's speaking directly to Harry in the
deleted
> part, or when he's confronting Quirrell in the hallway, it's very
sharp and
> focused. 
That's a very good observation! I also liked the light it threw on
Malfoy's character. The adoring looks he shoots his teacher are quite
frankly silly. Always makes me laugh ... Almost as if Draco was in
love with Snape's evil side. 

Any favourites? Mine is the Christmas scene. Something
about Harry sitting there alone and preoccupied just breaks my heart.

Maria (aka *percy*) 




From mariawolters at hotmail.com  Wed May 29 13:38:31 2002
From: mariawolters at hotmail.com (mariawolters)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 13:38:31 -0000
Subject: The full classroom scene
In-Reply-To: <005401c20714$26144c40$277763d1@texas.net>
Message-ID: <ad2lkn+pn8t@eGroups.com>

> The full scene was very effective and established that the dislike ran
> both ways, right from the start. And it made it clear that Snape's
dislike
> was very real, not just Harry's impression. 
[...]
> Anyone notice a definite difference in Snape's voice--it's often
vague and
> kind of "floating," but when he's speaking directly to Harry in the
deleted
> part, or when he's confronting Quirrell in the hallway, it's very
sharp and
> focused. 
That's a very good observation! I also liked the light it threw on
Malfoy's character. The adoring looks he shoots his teacher are quite
frankly silly. Always makes me laugh ... Almost as if Draco was in
love with Snape's evil side. 

Any favourites? Mine is the Christmas scene. Something
about Harry sitting there alone and preoccupied just breaks my heart.

Maria (aka *percy*) 




From bray.262 at osu.edu  Wed May 29 08:46:06 2002
From: bray.262 at osu.edu (Rachel Bray)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 08:46:06 +0000 (EST5EDT)
Subject: Now I'm wondering....
Message-ID: <1C6F4F070B5@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>

*clears throat and starts singing*  

Alllll byyyyy myyyyself......don't wanna be....alllll byyyy 
myyyself.

*ducks the tomatoes and heads of lettuce being thrown*

Doesn't anyone else out there besides me LOVE the DVD?  
I thought the Potions class was fun.  And I loved the 
deleted scenes.  And the interview is good.  I've not found 
any Easter eggs yet but I'm hoping there are some in there 
somewheres.

Oh well.  I was one of the few who loved and adored the 
movie, too.  So I guess I shouldn't be surprised about the 
DVD.


Rachel Bray
The Ohio State University
Fees, Deposits and Disbursements

LORD OF THE SNITCH
Three men form the chaser-squad under the sky 
Seven are the teammates on their brooms of wood
Two are Bludger balls charmed to fly
One is the dork Ref all on his own
On the field of Quidditch where the Quaffles lie.
One Snitch flits over all, one grab will win it
One game may take three months, or may take but a minute
On the field of Quidditch where the Quaffles lie.

http://home.att.net/~coriolan/hpfilks.htm




From SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com  Wed May 29 16:39:34 2002
From: SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com (kelleyelf)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 16:39:34 -0000
Subject: Now I'm wondering....
In-Reply-To: <1C6F4F070B5@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <ad3086+n1e8@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Rachel Bray <bray.262 at o...> wrote:
> I've not found any Easter eggs yet but I'm hoping there are some in 
there somewheres. >>>>>>>>>

Hey, Rachel.  I saw an article about the DVDs and the extras at Ain't 
It Cool News.  It looks like this article gives point-by-point 
details about the Easter Eggs on the second disk -- how to access 
them, what they do, etc.  Here's the link:

 http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=12362

Of course if you, or anyone else reading this, want to find the eggs 
on your own and be surprised, don't read the article.  (Or at least 
don't read the last two-thirds of the article.)  :-)


Best, 

Kelley





From saitaina at wizzards.net  Wed May 29 15:31:50 2002
From: saitaina at wizzards.net (Saitaina)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 08:31:50 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: movie on dvd, and what to expect.
References: <ad2hur+ghpd@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <007401c20725$f465eca0$454e28d1@oemcomputer>

No because the owls are before you even enter the Transfig classroom.  If you go back to the four class selection screen and look down you'll realize that the torch is sitting on two owls.

Saitaina
*****
"Good laws derive from evil habits." -Macrobius

"The mystery of goverment is not how Washington works, but how to make it stop."-"Parlement of Whores"


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From saitaina at wizzards.net  Wed May 29 15:42:12 2002
From: saitaina at wizzards.net (Saitaina)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 08:42:12 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The full classroom scene (with coments on the other scenes)
References: <ad2lkn+pn8t@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <007b01c20727$679da9a0$454e28d1@oemcomputer>

I agree that the purpose of cutting down that scene illudes me...we could have lost the 'It burns, I think Danger's coming" crap line if we wanted more time.  I also liked the ending to the Troll scene (eee, sweet moment!) and the smelting's uniform scene as character defining moments.  There was too much confusion in defining Ron, Harry, Hermione's friendship and I think that the end of the troll scene would have made a nice addition and sort of defined when they were friends instead of just classmates that sort of got on.

The uniform scene was just a pure Dursley moment and I thought beautifully handled by all involved.  I'm amazed everyone kept their faces in one shot long enough to get the scene with that...outfit around.  I also liked the full body bind/eyebrows growing back scene.  For once, it added more plot and did it the proper way (I was wondering where that card had run off to) and for another, I like the two kids playing Seamus and Neville.  Their both good in they're roles, especially the one who does Neville, plus, they added a bit of humor to it that was just right.  

The Christmas scene irked me.  I hate to say it but my impression of the Weasley's was not a good one while watching that scene.  I mean, Harry was all alone and no one but Ron cared.  I think it would have been better if they all moved over to him and went about eating and talking as if they hadn't done it, but just gave the message that they were there if he wanted to be with them.


Saitaina
*****
"Good laws derive from evil habits." -Macrobius

"The mystery of goverment is not how Washington works, but how to make it stop."-"Parlement of Whores"


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From ShelaghC at aol.com  Wed May 29 17:45:27 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 17:45:27 -0000
Subject: COS Trailer
In-Reply-To: <acljrp+5ie4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ad343n+4bnm@eGroups.com>

This is *not* a good thing.....

Maybe I'll go see something else and sneak into the nassssty nassssty 
movie just to see the trailer - then split!

Shelagh
feart



--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "River3_98" <ITZregina at h...> wrote:
> Rumor has it that the trailer is finished and is going to be 
attatched
> to the Scooby Doo movie.
> 
> 
> http://www.kelwick.karoo.net/TheUsher-HushHush-HarryPotter2.htm




From ShelaghC at aol.com  Wed May 29 18:08:44 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 18:08:44 -0000
Subject: Extra footage
In-Reply-To: <ad1l7b+8vv4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ad35fc+okjf@eGroups.com>

I actually tried doing that this morning, but using the title button 
on the remote control just got me a statement that the disc didn't 
permit that function (or something like that). Not sure if it's a 
glitch on the disc or not, but the whole thing was completely 
frustrating and took me nearly 45 minutes just to see seven scenes 
that totalled about 5 minutes to watch....

Shelagh
wondering why Warner Brothers couldn't have released a "Harry Potter 
and the Sorcerer's/Philosopher's Stone" for Grownups....



--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "caliburncy" <caliburncy at y...> wrote:
> Also, you'll notice that underneath The Bits' walkthrough, it 
> mentions that the deleted scenes are Titles 27-33, the knowledge of 
> which may allow you to bypass all the silliness, although they 
> couldn't figure out how themselves.  Well, at DVD File's review, 
they 
> say the following:
> 
> "(Here's a hint: just use your remote's Title access feature (set 
> Chapter to 1) and you can access all of the video pieces on the 
disc 
> directly. But with nearly 100 separate titles, it is still a 
chore.)"
> 
> So perhaps by combining these two tidbits of information, you will 
> find a way to access the features without having to play all the 
> games.
> 
> Good luck!  I understand the frustration, although I have not yet 
had 
> the, err, privilege of experiencing it myself.
> 
> -Luke




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Wed May 29 18:04:15 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 19:04:15 +0100
Subject: The full classroom scene
References: <005401c20714$26144c40$277763d1@texas.net>
Message-ID: <004001c2073b$3ee2a1a0$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>

I must say, I can't see what purpose cutting the potions classroom scene
had. The full scene was very effective and established that the dislike ran
both ways, right from the start. And it made it clear that Snape's dislike
was very real, not just Harry's impression. 

Yes, I agree, I sat there seething thinking * they cut THIS, damn it!!!! *  Not as a dyed in the wool Snape or Rickman fan but purely (and for me unusually logical) point of view. It explains so much very very quickly.

it's often vague and kind of "floating," but when he's speaking directly to Harry in the deleted part, or when he's confronting Quirrell in the hallway, it's very sharp and focused. I noticed because, at the end of the full classroom scene, when he's been talking to Harry and then asks everyone why they're not writing it down, the way his voice changes is noticeable--from the intense voice, to Harry, to that vaguer "Well?" to the class. Anyone else think this?

Makes the character extra creepy - he is good at that * softly when he feels like it stuff * all adds up to a first rate (if slightly camped up) performance.  I believe JKR has told AR a lot of Snape's back story so there may of course be a great deal he knows that we don't that can he can use as shading for the character.   (No, I will resist any mention of the * missing * or just Very Late book and relevant information it might contain......) I always cheer when Snape hurtles into the dungeon classroom declaiming * There will be no foolish wand waving.................... * lets Everyone know there is more to life (the universe and everything) at Hogwarts than just Magic.

Felicia





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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Wed May 29 18:16:12 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 19:16:12 +0100
Subject: Now I'm wondering....
References: <1C6F4F070B5@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <008501c2073c$ea156ca0$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>

> Rachel wrote:
> clears throat and starts singing*  
>
> Alllll byyyyy myyyyself......don't wanna be....alllll byyyy 
> myyyself.
>
> *ducks the tomatoes and heads of lettuce being thrown*
>
> Doesn't anyone else out there besides me LOVE the DVD?  
> I thought the Potions class was fun.  And I loved the 
> deleted scenes.  And the interview is good.  I've not found 
> any Easter eggs yet but I'm hoping there are some in there 
> somewheres.
>
> Oh well.  I was one of the few who loved and adored the 
> movie, too.  So I guess I shouldn't be surprised about the 
> DVD. >>>>>>

NATCH!  I suspect everyone adored it too - but took a little longer to realise it as their DVD's were faulty - they were counter intuitive - they didn't work etc., etc.,

That aside I adore the DVD I get to talk to the computer (extra credit bit) replay my favourite bits over and over (and over) again.  Especially the full classroom scene..... I got the Remembrall - which is too cute for someone with a brain like a sieve (me)  

If you find any easter eggs I want to know OK???

Felicia
(who refuses to sing - like AR she can'....)


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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Wed May 29 18:23:08 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 19:23:08 +0100
Subject: COS Trailer
References: <ad343n+4bnm@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00a101c2073d$e1f192a0$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>

> Shelagh wrote:
> This is *not* a good thing.....
>
> Maybe I'll go see something else and sneak into the nassssty nassssty 
> movie just to see the trailer - then split! >>>>>


Maybe they will do like last time - allowing you to download it from the net?  I think that was what we did in the end??

Felicia







From ShelaghC at aol.com  Wed May 29 19:06:59 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 19:06:59 -0000
Subject: COS Trailer
In-Reply-To: <00a101c2073d$e1f192a0$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <ad38sj+qjc3@eGroups.com>

Yes, but a trailer on a computer and a trailer on a big screen is a 
totally different effect. I'd rather see it in a theatre than on my 
little 17" monitor.

I'll sneak in if they don't show it with Spider-man or some other 
equally fun movie.

Hmmm.... wonder if they'd deign to throw it in with a showing of 
Fellowship of the Ring? ;->

Shelagh
serving two masters....



--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Felicia Rickmann" <feliciarickmann at d...> 
wrote:
> 
> Maybe they will do like last time - allowing you to download it 
from the net?  I think that was what we did in the end??
> 
> Felicia




From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Wed May 29 19:09:54 2002
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 14:09:54 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Extra footage
References: <ad1c5l+dbhi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3CF52782.2831C943@kingwoodcable.com>

Has anyone figured out a way to see the deleted scenes and the interviews *without* having to play that games? I
didn't buy the DVD for the games.

-Katze

shelaghcol wrote:

> Can *anyone* tell me how to get past this stupid game of mixing
> potions so I can just see the blasted scenes?
>
> Please!
>
> Shelagh
> totally disgusted at this point with this whole DVD
>
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From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Wed May 29 19:12:53 2002
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 14:12:53 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Extra footage
References: <ad1c5l+dbhi@eGroups.com> <3CF52782.2831C943@kingwoodcable.com>
Message-ID: <3CF52835.9277208F@kingwoodcable.com>

Scratch part of that....

How do I see the -deleted scenes- without playing the games. The interviews were pretty easy ;-)

-Katze

Katze wrote:

> Has anyone figured out a way to see the deleted scenes and the interviews *without* having to play that games? I
> didn't buy the DVD for the games.
>
> -Katze
>
> shelaghcol wrote:
>
> > Can *anyone* tell me how to get past this stupid game of mixing
> > potions so I can just see the blasted scenes?
> >
> > Please!
> >
> > Shelagh
> > totally disgusted at this point with this whole DVD
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From ShelaghC at aol.com  Wed May 29 20:33:54 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 20:33:54 -0000
Subject: Extra footage
In-Reply-To: <3CF52835.9277208F@kingwoodcable.com>
Message-ID: <ad3dvi+9rer@eGroups.com>

So far as anyone can tell, there's no way to get to those deleted 
scenes without going through Warner Brothers overly imaginative and 
totally annoying maze.

What gets me is that *every* time you want to see them you have to 
circumnavigate that whole circuitous route. And god forbid you forget 
or accidentally hit the wrong combination of ingredients to the 
potions, winding up in the hospital and back at the beginning of 
potions class. And by the time you get into the scenes, you've wasted 
more time than the scenes actually total. 

I put in a call to Warner Brothers today to make a complaint about 
this highly frustrating setup. Still awaiting a response.

Shelagh
still annoyed

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Katze <jdumas at k...> wrote:
> Scratch part of that....
> 
> How do I see the -deleted scenes- without playing the games. The 
interviews were pretty easy ;-)
> 
> -Katze
> 
> Katze wrote:
> 
> > Has anyone figured out a way to see the deleted scenes and the 
interviews *without* having to play that games? I
> > didn't buy the DVD for the games.
> >
> > -Katze
> >
> > shelaghcol wrote:
> >
> > > Can *anyone* tell me how to get past this stupid game of mixing
> > > potions so I can just see the blasted scenes?
> > >
> > > Please!
> > >
> > > Shelagh
> > > totally disgusted at this point with this whole DVD
> > >
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From pennylin at swbell.net  Wed May 29 20:48:33 2002
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny Linsenmayer)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:48:33 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Now I'm wondering....
References: <1C6F4F070B5@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <022901c20752$327c12e0$4f5ffea9@cq5hs01>

Hi --

Rachel -- I too loved & adored the Movie.  I saw it 12 times in the theater!!  

But, I'm really angry about the DVD on a number of levels.  First, if they want to have the deleted scenes be a "prize" for getting through some kiddie games, that's fine.  But, be up-front about that in clear language.  If Nancy hadn't been fooling around with it all afternoon yesterday & then mentioned in an email to me something about getting through potions test challenges to get there & that there even *were* deleted scenes, I'd have been tempted to think that they were *lying* on the box cover about the "never-before-seen footage."  Why make it so hidden & mysterious?  The average viewer is just not going to go to all that trouble to find this stuff.  They had the "interview" section labelled; why not include a "deleted scenes" button that then takes you through a series of challenges with encouraging remarks like "You're almost to the prize; you'll soon be able to see the scenes that didn't make it to the big screen ... keep on going."  Instead, it's buried in there in the "extras" with no instructions on the box or in the DVD itself to help you get there.  

I also think they should have included more deleted scenes or more "extra footage."  More of the kids goofing around the set; longer interviews with Columbus, et al.  It's definitely a DVD geared to kids, which is fine.  But, maybe they should have made an adult version with more extras that would appeal to the adult audience.  Or included both the kiddie games *and* the extras that the adults would appreciate.  

My biggest gripe is that it took me over an hour of frustrated attempts and a long-distance phone call to my friend Nancy to find the deleted scenes, and something about that really doesn't work.  

I also resent that I'll have to memorize how to get through all that garbage to get to the deleted scenes each & every time apparently.

I did, however, enjoy seeing the movie again!  :--)  And, I do love, love, love the fact that I can watch it anytime, slow down the Quidditch, etc.  Cool.  

Frustrated!Penny


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From ShelaghC at aol.com  Wed May 29 21:50:45 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 21:50:45 -0000
Subject: Report from Call to Warner Brothers about HP DVD
Message-ID: <ad3ifl+o5ev@eGroups.com>

I just got off the phone with a lovely harried lady at Warner 
Brothers.

All phone calls about the dreaded route to the extra footage are 
being forwarded to this beleaguered woman who is very much aware of 
the large number of unhappy customers.

She couldn't give out the name of the person responsible for the 
clever way of reaching the scenes, but said she is keeping track of 
all complaints in order to make him/her aware of the situation.

I mentioned the number of frustrated members on this list and she 
said she may be seeking it out to add in those numbers as well.

Our lovely unexpected advocate doesn't know if Warner Brothers will 
be replacing the second disk with a more user friendly version, but 
she did tell me that TPTB will be very much informed about how 
frustrated and upset so many of us are.

Shelagh
cub reporter





From Ali at zymurgy.org  Wed May 29 21:53:41 2002
From: Ali at zymurgy.org (alhewison)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 21:53:41 -0000
Subject: Extra footage & worries for the future
In-Reply-To: <ad3dvi+9rer@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ad3il5+ktld@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "shelaghcol" <ShelaghC at a...> wrote:
> So far as anyone can tell, there's no way to get to those deleted 
> scenes without going through Warner Brothers overly imaginative and 
> totally annoying maze.
> 
> What gets me is that *every* time you want to see them you have to 
> circumnavigate that whole circuitous route. And god forbid you 
forget 
> or accidentally hit the wrong combination of ingredients to the 
> potions, winding up in the hospital and back at the beginning of 
> potions class. And by the time you get into the scenes, you've 
wasted more time than the scenes actually total. 


I've had the DVD since it came out in the UK on May 11th - I even 
bought a DVD player specially to watch it, and no, I haven't found an 
alternative "quick route" to getting to the deleted scenes. Actually, 
though, I've got pretty quick at going through Diagon Alley etc to 
get to the scenes, so it nolonger bothers me quite so much!

I guess the truth is that Warner Bros are just marketing the film for 
kids, they may be happy to take our money; but we are not their 
primary audience. 

I have a love/hate relationship with the film. I don't rate it as one 
of the best films I've ever seen, by a long chalk, and yet I'm 
strangely addicted to it. I have now replayed the DVD dozens of 
times, and even my 4 year old daughter has asked me why I keep 
watching it! 

I am another of those who cannot understand why they didn't leave the 
whole Potions lesson in. Of all the deleted scenes, it really annoys 
me that it isn't still there. It shows a more feisty Harry, and 
defines the Harry/Snape relationship for the future. I also wonder if 
Snape is actually trying to spell out the significance of those 
spells to Harry - perhaps the Bezoar and Sleeping Potion will yet 
prove important!

On to another one of my rants: Whatever concerns I have about the 
film, the acting etc etc, I really don't like the idea of the young 
actors being replaced. I know that James Bond has changed several 
times, but in that case we are presented with each film as a stand-
alone, rather than HP which is episcodic. Again, characters are 
replaced in soaps, but how common is it to replay old soaps? I fully 
understand if the kids themselves nolonger want to take part, or if 
there is going to be several years between the making of the films, 
in which case they would outgrow their parts. But otherwise, I am 
rather attached to Dan Radcliffe etc (I'm a bit worried that that's 
not normal for a 33 year old, but there we go!)

Ali






From siskiou at earthlink.net  Wed May 29 22:13:37 2002
From: siskiou at earthlink.net (Susanne)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:13:37 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Extra footage & worries for the future
In-Reply-To: <ad3il5+ktld@eGroups.com>
References: <ad3il5+ktld@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <131308165610.20020529151337@earthlink.net>



Hi,

Wednesday, May 29, 2002, 2:53:41 PM, Ali at zymurgy.org wrote:

>  I fully 
> understand if the kids themselves nolonger want to take part, or if 
> there is going to be several years between the making of the films, 
> in which case they would outgrow their parts. But otherwise, I am 
> rather attached to Dan Radcliffe etc (I'm a bit worried that that's 
> not normal for a 33 year old, but there we go!)

Well, I'm 43 and feel the same way, if that helps <g>.

Is it a definite now, that the kids will be replaced after
PoA (if they go ahead and even make more movies)?

It would probably ruin things completely for me.
I'm very loyal to characters and have never continued to
watch a show where a character was played by a different
actor for whatever reason.

It'll just have to be the books in that case.

-- 
Best regards,
 Susanne                           mailto:siskiou at earthlink.net




From Joanne0012 at aol.com  Wed May 29 22:28:53 2002
From: Joanne0012 at aol.com (joanne0012)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 22:28:53 -0000
Subject: Report from Call to Warner Brothers about HP DVD
In-Reply-To: <ad3ifl+o5ev@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ad3kn5+kte7@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "shelaghcol" <ShelaghC at a...> wrote:
 
> All phone calls about the dreaded route to the extra footage are 
> being forwarded to this beleaguered woman who is very much aware of 
> the large number of unhappy customers. . . . 
> she did tell me that TPTB will be very much informed about how 
> frustrated and upset so many of us are.

It would be wonderful to get her e-mail address, or some other useful Warner 
address, just to avoid the need for phone calls.  After all, on these boards we 
are not supposed to post a mere "Me, too!" so she can't gauge the full impact 
just by coming here.

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "alhewison" <Ali at z...> wrote:
> 
> I really don't like the idea of the young 
> actors being replaced. I know that James Bond has changed several 
> times, but in that case we are presented with each film as a stand-
> alone, rather than HP which is episcodic.

The Bond movies have been produced over a period of decades.  It was my 
understanding that new actors played Bond over the years because the original 
ones got too old!  

There hasn't been any serious discussion of actors being replaced, has there?  
All I've heard is about Zoe Wanamaker being phased out, and the boy who plays 
Draco allegedly saying he's out of the acting business once the HP films are 
done.




From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Wed May 29 22:43:55 2002
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 17:43:55 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Extra footage & worries for the future
References: <ad3il5+ktld@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3CF559AB.E50137CD@kingwoodcable.com>

alhewison wrote:

> On to another one of my rants: Whatever concerns I have about the
> film, the acting etc etc, I really don't like the idea of the young
> actors being replaced. I know that James Bond has changed several
> times, but in that case we are presented with each film as a stand-
> alone, rather than HP which is episcodic. Again, characters are
> replaced in soaps, but how common is it to replay old soaps? I fully
> understand if the kids themselves nolonger want to take part, or if
> there is going to be several years between the making of the films,
> in which case they would outgrow their parts. But otherwise, I am
> rather attached to Dan Radcliffe etc (I'm a bit worried that that's
> not normal for a 33 year old, but there we go!)

Now with speculation that the new book won't be out until 2003, I'm worried about them replacing the actors. Who
knows though - if they work on GOF in 2004 and have a script ready for 2005, then they could still use the same
folks. Also - once the kids get to be about 15/16 they'll be able to play young ages until their mid twenties (and
sometimes even into their late 20s).

I think they will continue with the same actors - unless the actors don't want to work on the movies anymore.

-Katze





From pennylin at swbell.net  Wed May 29 22:51:47 2002
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny Linsenmayer)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 17:51:47 -0500
Subject: WB Complaints; Replacing the Kids
References: <ad3kn5+kte7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <025501c20763$698bc6c0$4f5ffea9@cq5hs01>

Hi --

I asked Shelaghcol offlist for the phone number she called, but if she'd like to post an email address and/or phone number here, I think that would be great.  It does appear that a fair number of us would like to register our dissatisfaction with the means of getting to the deleted scenes.  

As for replacing the kids, I think I can now see a reason why the kids may *have* to be replaced and that is the delay in publication of OOP.  If there continues to be 2 or more years in between books, Dan, Rupert & Emma will possibly be too old to effectively play the Trio in the last 2-3 movies.  Dan at 20 may still be fine to play 16 yr old Harry ... but he might not be.  It's hard to predict really.  So, I think it will depend on publication & filming schedules.  I'd love to see Dan keep the role (and Rupert & Emma as well) through all 7 movies, assuming there are 7 movies ... but it seems to me that it will depend more on outside factors than anyone might have expected.

Penny


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From ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com  Wed May 29 22:52:47 2002
From: ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com (Petra Pan)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:52:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Columbus Sets Sail for America // OotP ETA June '03
Message-ID: <20020529225247.1439.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com>

In case you haven't heard, according to today's Daily
Variety, Chris Columbus will definitely NOT be directing
PoA.  Reportedly, Columbus wants to bring his family home.

Being considered for the director's chair: 

- Alfonso Cuaron (loved his "A Little Princess"
(1995)...also directed "Y Tu Mam Tambin," "Great
Expectations" (1998), "Fallen Angels" TV Series, "Slo Con
Tu Pareja" aka "Love in the Time of Hysteria"); 

- Callie Khouri (wrote scripts of "Divine Secrets of the
Ya-Ya Sisterhood," "Something to Talk About," and "Thelma &
Louise."  Of these, she directed "Ya-Ya Sisterhood."); and 

- Ken Branagh, Gilderoy himself.

Also mentioned: "...Rowling has told her publishers she
needs more time to finish [OotP], prompting Scholastic to
assure antsy shareholders they can expect the book by June
2003."

That's more than a year away!!!

Petra
a
n  :(

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From heidi at blaydz.com  Wed May 29 23:03:27 2002
From: heidi at blaydz.com (heidi at blaydz.com)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 16:03:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: observations
Message-ID: <20020529160329.16389.h009.c001.wm@mail.blaydz.com.criticalpath.net>


After struggling with the dratted second disc, and
finally getting it to work after some hours, I
discovered that "PC Friendly Interactive" works whereas
"Interactive 2.0" does not.  To top it off, I couldn't
get through to Diagon Alley without my machine
freezing. Tried another disc and it worked all of a
sudden. The rest was merely annoying, whilst trying to
figure out "Porcupine Quills" and "Snake Fangs" (for
the person who is stuck on potions).

Anyway, some questions:
In the scene where Hermione tells Harry that quidditch
is in his blood (useless scene IMO), as Harry and Ron
walk past, Hermione is sitting on a bench with two
other students and an older gentlemen. Who could he
possibly be? (not the actor, but the role.)
Does it seem like Susan Bones is in every other scene?
Almost thought that Malfoy would accuse her of being a
Weasley the way her red hair stood out in so many
scenes.

There's a $5 DVD at Best Buy labelled (I think) with
some deleted scenes and game previews. Anyone know
about this?

Heidi, tired and groggy from staying up 'til the wee
hours.





From divaclv at aol.com  Wed May 29 23:15:35 2002
From: divaclv at aol.com (c_voth312)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 23:15:35 -0000
Subject: Columbus Sets Sail for America // OotP ETA June '03
In-Reply-To: <20020529225247.1439.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ad3nen+9njo@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Petra Pan <ms_petra_pan at y...> wrote:
> Being considered for the director's chair: 
> 
> - Alfonso Cuaron (loved his "A Little Princess"
> (1995)...also directed "Y Tu Mam? Tambi?n," "Great
> Expectations" (1998), "Fallen Angels" TV Series, "S?lo Con
> Tu Pareja" aka "Love in the Time of Hysteria"); 

I just read this on IMDb--and I really do like the idea.  "Little 
Princess" is one of the better family movies in recent history (and 
one which has been woefully unrecognized, IMO)--beautiful visual 
style, above par cast, appealing to older audiences.  I'd love to see 
him take a crack at PoA (my favorite of the books so far).
 
> - Callie Khouri (wrote scripts of "Divine Secrets of the
> Ya-Ya Sisterhood," "Something to Talk About," and "Thelma &
> Louise."  Of these, she directed "Ya-Ya Sisterhood."); and 

Not familiar with her work :-/
 
> - Ken Branagh, Gilderoy himself.

I can't see it...but stranger things have happened.
 
> Also mentioned: "...Rowling has told her publishers she
> needs more time to finish [OotP], prompting Scholastic to
> assure antsy shareholders they can expect the book by June
> 2003."
> 

WHAT?!?!?  Say it ain't so, Jo!

~Christi





From pbnesbit at msn.com  Thu May 30 01:08:59 2002
From: pbnesbit at msn.com (harpdreamer)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 01:08:59 -0000
Subject: Columbus Sets Sail for America // DVD
In-Reply-To: <20020529225247.1439.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ad3u3b+v5mf@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Petra Pan <ms_petra_pan at y...> wrote:
> In case you haven't heard, according to today's Daily
> Variety, Chris Columbus will definitely NOT be directing
> PoA.  Reportedly, Columbus wants to bring his family home.

(Snip)
> 
> > Petra
> a
> n  :(
> 

I, for one, am glad he'll not be directing PoA.  I think it needs a 
director who can do "edgy".  Now, if they'd just get rid of Steve 
Kloves as well...

Am I the only one who ordered the VHS version of the movie?  After 
hearing your woes with the DVD, I changed my mind and cancelled the 
DVD order, and ordered the VHS version instead.  Doesn't sound like 
I'm missing too much ;)

Peace & Plenty, 

Parker 




From ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com  Thu May 30 03:25:41 2002
From: ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com (Petra Pan)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 20:25:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Columbus Sets Sail for America // DVD
Message-ID: <20020530032541.24579.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com>

--- Parker "harpdreamer" <pbnesbit at m...> wrote:
> --- Petra Pan [yours truly] wrote:
> > In case you haven't heard, according to today's Daily
> > Variety, Chris Columbus will definitely NOT be
directing
> > PoA.  Reportedly, Columbus wants to bring his family
> > home.
> 
> (Snip)
>
> > Petra
> > a
> > n  :(
> > 
> 
> I, for one, am glad he'll not be directing PoA.  I think 
> it needs a  director who can do "edgy".  Now, if they'd 
> just get rid of Steve Kloves as well...

Agreed - I too am glad CC won't be directing the remaining
volumes, which are even more complex than SS or CoS...BTW,
that frowning emoticon above is directed at the thought of
waiting another year for OotP (part of snippage), not at
thought that Columbus is bowing out of the franchise.  :)

As someone who really enjoyed Alfonso Cuaron's dreamy and
magical "A Little Princess," I am rather torn: which would
I prefer? HP interpreted for the big screen by Cuaron or
someone "edgier" like Tim Burton?  If it was up to me, I'd
have different directors handle different scenes.  No, I
too doubt that'd happen.

Having attended a Q&A session featuring Kloves, I found him
to be a nice enough guy and not particularly "Hollywood." 
His heart seems to be in the right place, and his other
works (Wonder Boys, The Fabulous Baker Boys, and Racing
with the Moon) has earned him much esteem among other
writers.  How then did HPSS become such an exercise in
getting from one plot point to another...and not much else?
<shoulders a-shrugging, head a-shaking>

A case can certainly be made that 2-3 hours can only cover
the story elements that kept millions of noses stuck
between the covers...but to fail to recreate the character
development that bonded JKR's readers to Harry?  In
essence, this film has not succeeded on its own terms and
could not have stood on its own feet.  Personally, I only
watch the movie because though it pales in comparison, it
takes me back to JKR's world; without my foreknowledge of
which, I doubt I would have sat though the bumpy narration
that is HPSS more than once.

The sad part is, am I going to go see Columbus' CoS?  Yup.
<sigh>  Have I mentioned that the thought of waiting
another year for OotP brings a frown to my face?

> Am I the only one who ordered the VHS version of the 
> movie?  After hearing your woes with the DVD, I changed 
> my mind and cancelled the 
> DVD order, and ordered the VHS version instead. Doesn't
> sound like I'm missing too much ;)

You're onto a good strategy - wanna bet that like LotR,
there is another version (the "Longer! Better Than Ever
Before!" edition) in the offing?

Petra
a
n  :)

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From saitaina at wizzards.net  Thu May 30 00:07:03 2002
From: saitaina at wizzards.net (Saitaina)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 17:07:03 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: COS Trailer
References: <ad38sj+qjc3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <009901c2076d$ee587740$714e28d1@oemcomputer>

Any Warner Brothers movie released before CoS will most likely have the trailer.  You don't HAVE to sneak into Scooby Doo (I on the other hand will be watching it no matter how crappy it is due to being a long fan of the gang :o) )

They might have it online but after the problems with getting them last time (at least for me) I'm willing to pay to see any movie that might have the trailer.  Plus I might find a hidden gem I hadn't planned on seeing.

Saitaina
*****
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"The mystery of goverment is not how Washington works, but how to make it stop."-"Parlement of Whores"
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: shelaghcol 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 12:06 PM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: COS Trailer


  Yes, but a trailer on a computer and a trailer on a big screen is a 
  totally different effect. I'd rather see it in a theatre than on my 
  little 17" monitor.

  I'll sneak in if they don't show it with Spider-man or some other 
  equally fun movie.

  Hmmm.... wonder if they'd deign to throw it in with a showing of 
  Fellowship of the Ring? ;->

  Shelagh
  serving two masters....



  --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Felicia Rickmann" <feliciarickmann at d...> 
  wrote:
  > 
  > Maybe they will do like last time - allowing you to download it 
  from the net?  I think that was what we did in the end??
  > 
  > Felicia


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From Joanne0012 at aol.com  Thu May 30 12:01:46 2002
From: Joanne0012 at aol.com (joanne0012)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 12:01:46 -0000
Subject: Columbus Sets Sail for America // DVD
In-Reply-To: <ad3u3b+v5mf@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ad54ba+c7ou@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "harpdreamer" <pbnesbit at m...> wrote:
> Am I the only one who ordered the VHS version of the movie?  After 
> hearing your woes with the DVD, I changed my mind and cancelled the 
> DVD order, and ordered the VHS version instead.  Doesn't sound like 
> I'm missing too much ;)

I still  haven't decided which version to get.  Can someone please explain whether 
the tape has all the extra (non-game) features of the DVD -- unreleased footage, 
interviews, etc.?  

Our only DVD player is via my son's Playstation II,  which is a nuisance, so I'm 
inclined towards the VHS version anyway, as long as I'm not missing anything 
interesting.




From hp_lexicon at yahoo.com  Thu May 30 14:37:37 2002
From: hp_lexicon at yahoo.com (hp_lexicon)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 14:37:37 -0000
Subject: Columbus Sets Sail for America // DVD
In-Reply-To: <ad54ba+c7ou@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ad5dfh+u26v@eGroups.com>


> I still  haven't decided which version to get.  Can someone please 
explain whether 
> the tape has all the extra (non-game) features of the DVD -- 
unreleased footage, 
> interviews, etc.?  

I don't have a DVD player, so we bought the tape. Unfortunately, it 
only has two of the deleted scenes on it, not the full seven, and 
nothing else at all. I was VERY disappointed. The two, by the way, 
are the leg-locker and the full potions class. 

*sigh*

Steve Vander Ark




From mariawolters at hotmail.com  Thu May 30 14:58:17 2002
From: mariawolters at hotmail.com (mariawolters)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 14:58:17 -0000
Subject: Columbus Sets Sail for America // DVD
In-Reply-To: <ad5dfh+u26v@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ad5em9+tl1d@eGroups.com>


> I don't have a DVD player, so we bought the tape. Unfortunately, it 
> only has two of the deleted scenes on it, not the full seven, and 
> nothing else at all. I was VERY disappointed. The two, by the way, 
> are the leg-locker and the full potions class. 

These are actually the most important ones IMHO - the only
other deleted scene that was really worth it was the 
Christmas where Harry despondently pines for his parents 
(via Erised) while Ron tries to cheer him up. The Dursley 
scenes were not more than snippets. Nothing of the sheer
importance of the Lily-holding-Harry scene.  

cheers,

Maria




From ShelaghC at aol.com  Thu May 30 18:19:10 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 18:19:10 -0000
Subject: WB Complaints; Replacing the Kids
In-Reply-To: <025501c20763$698bc6c0$4f5ffea9@cq5hs01>
Message-ID: <ad5qeu+hl8g@eGroups.com>

Unfortunately, I found my way to the lady in question through several 
different transfers so I have no phone number or email address for 
her.

I'd provide the main number for Warner Brothers, but it took about a 
half an hour of searching before I found one on the web that actually 
dealt with the company itself and not one of the studio stores and 
forgot to bookmark it. :-<

If I manage to locate either number again, I'll drop it off here. 

But in any case, I *guarantee* you that the woman I spoke with is 
very much aware of how annoyed and frustrated people are. She'd been 
dealing with phone calls almost since the DVD release and sounded 
extremely tired and harassed. In fact she seemed grateful to hear a 
reasonable voice on the other end of the line. 

I'd say, if anyone is feeling the urge to go looking for a number for 
this woman to give her a break? Especially since she wasn't the once 
responsible for the whole fiasco and is simply the person designated 
to receive the mountain of complaints.

Shelagh
feeling for the poor thing


--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Penny Linsenmayer <pennylin at s...> wrote:
> Hi --
> 
> I asked Shelaghcol offlist for the phone number she called, but if 
she'd like to post an email address and/or phone number here, I think 
that would be great.  It does appear that a fair number of us would 
like to register our dissatisfaction with the means of getting to the 
deleted scenes.  





From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Thu May 30 17:46:24 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 18:46:24 +0100
Subject: DVD vs Video Missing sequences
References: <ad5em9+tl1d@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <005a01c20801$eab4c460$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>

 I don't have a DVD player, so we bought the tape. Unfortunately, it 
> only has two of the deleted scenes on it, not the full seven, and 
> nothing else at all. I was VERY disappointed. The two, by the way, 
> are the leg-locker and the full potions class. 

These are actually the most important ones IMHO - the only
other deleted scene that was really worth it was the 
Christmas where Harry despondently pines for his parents 
(via Erised) while Ron tries to cheer him up.

I agree with Maria, don't worry too much about your Missing Scenes - although it is really disappointing to only have the two.  I got both (video for playtimes DVD for when the * other half * is off the computer....) so I have been able to compare both.  The crucial scene on both is the extended potions class sequence the others are a bit if fun (like Mrs Dursley opening egg after egg and finding Another letter to Harry in each one) but none add a great deal - IMHO ;-))

Felicia


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From ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk  Thu May 30 17:51:55 2002
From: ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin Hooper)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 18:51:55 +0100
Subject: DVD Movie caps
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020530185113.009ec0a0@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>

Just got the DVD Movie - Here are some screencaps...

http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/zisp/thumbnail?id=2

Hope you like...

Martin J Hooper
http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602





From ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk  Thu May 30 17:52:28 2002
From: ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin Hooper)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 18:52:28 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Columbus Sets Sail for America // DVD
In-Reply-To: <ad5em9+tl1d@eGroups.com>
References: <ad5dfh+u26v@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020530185210.009f1de0@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>

At 15:58 30/05/02, you wrote:
>These are actually the most important ones IMHO - the only
>other deleted scene that was really worth it was the
>Christmas where Harry despondently pines for his parents
>(via Erised) while Ron tries to cheer him up. The Dursley
>scenes were not more than snippets. Nothing of the sheer
>importance of the Lily-holding-Harry scene.

Just got the movie DVD - How do I get to these extra scenes then???


Martin J Hooper
http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602





From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Thu May 30 18:07:09 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 19:07:09 +0100
Subject: OotP ETA June '03 - Not true
References: <20020529225247.1439.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00d601c20804$d0fb0b80$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>


> Also mentioned: "...Rowling has told her publishers she
> needs more time to finish [OotP], prompting Scholastic to
> assure antsy shareholders they can expect the book by June
> 2003."
>
> That's more than a year away!!!
>
> Petra

A recent BBC report linked I think to the DVD release (although I MIGHT be
wrong there) said it was definitely a 2002 release - and that was from the
publisher.

I have decided to travel the world until the book comes out - Orkney first -
New York second.

Felicia





From Joanne0012 at aol.com  Thu May 30 18:45:08 2002
From: Joanne0012 at aol.com (joanne0012)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 18:45:08 -0000
Subject: WB Complaints; 
In-Reply-To: <ad5qeu+hl8g@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ad5rvk+l71r@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "shelaghcol" <ShelaghC at a...> wrote:
>  I *guarantee* you that the woman I spoke with is 
> very much aware of how annoyed and frustrated people are. She'd been 
> dealing with phone calls almost since the DVD release and sounded 
> extremely tired and harassed. . . . 
> I'd say, if anyone is feeling the urge to go looking for a number for 
> this woman to give her a break? Especially since she wasn't the once 
> responsible for the whole fiasco and is simply the person designated 
> to receive the mountain of complaints.

But the purpose of contacting this poor woman is *not* to convince her that 
there's a problem (as you explained, this has been accomplished), nor is it to 
blame her for the problem, which would be foolish.  

The point is to make it abundantly clear to the powers-that-be that a bad 
decision has been made.  To that end, I do believe it matters whether she gets 5 
calls, or 50, or 500.  The smaller the number of complainants, the more easily 
they can be dismissed as a few old fuddy-duddies who can't figure out how to 
play video games.




From fawkes at wizardingwireless.net  Fri May 31 05:42:53 2002
From: fawkes at wizardingwireless.net (Dave Haber)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 22:42:53 -0700
Subject: My Favorite SS Frame
Message-ID: <005001c20866$0586c540$6401a8c0@gryffindor>

I've only watched the DVD approximately 4 times so far (taking into account it takes me much longer than 2 1/2 hours as I keep backing up and pausing, as I'm sure you all are doing too).

Although this is subject to change, I just wanted to share with you what I think is currently my favorite frame of the movie.  The look on Wood's face after Harry, Ron and Hermione unwrap the Nimbus 2000 is wonderful.  I've uploaded a still of this frame to my website, you can see it at:

    http://www.wizardingwireless.net/thebroom.jpg

It's interesting to note that in the standard screen version (I own both), Percy is totally missing from this very cool shot.

What's everybody else's favorite bit of the film?

    -Dave

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From ShelaghC at aol.com  Fri May 31 16:46:51 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 16:46:51 -0000
Subject: DVD Movie caps
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020530185113.009ec0a0@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <ad89dr+ml04@eGroups.com>

Very nice stuff! You've been busy since the DVD came out.

Thanks for posting this.

btw, any chance you'll be doing caps from the "deleted scenes?" I'd 
love to see one of the Christmas scene.

And definitely looking forward to the next batch.

Keep up the good work!

Shelagh
ps - love the pics of your cats. <g> I'm a kitty lover myself
http://members.aol.com/shelaghc/sandi.jpg



--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Martin Hooper <ch001d4564 at b...> wrote:
> Just got the DVD Movie - Here are some screencaps...
> 
> http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/zisp/thumbnail?id=2
> 
> Hope you like...
> 
> Martin J Hooper
> http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602




From ITZregina at hanson.net  Fri May 31 17:17:41 2002
From: ITZregina at hanson.net (River3_98)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 17:17:41 -0000
Subject: COS pics!!
Message-ID: <ad8b7l+pdch@eGroups.com>

Run, don't walk to this link!!! A great Leaky Cauldron scoop! 

ET weekly: http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,254304-1-
10~1~0~,00.html 

COS pics! and Dobby!!

Great magazine cover too!

Gina




From bray.262 at osu.edu  Fri May 31 14:26:18 2002
From: bray.262 at osu.edu (Rachel Bray)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 14:26:18 +0000 (EST5EDT)
Subject: observation on a deleted scene
Message-ID: <1C5C155A85@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>

When Ron and Hermione are going back and forth over their 
homework in the Neville leg-lock scene....doesn't Harry 
pull a great Silent Bob moment when Ron goes off about how 
insulting the anti-cheating quills were....?

Just curious if anyone caught that, too.  :-)

Rachel Bray
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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Fri May 31 17:26:49 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 18:26:49 +0100
Subject: COS pics!!
References: <ad8b7l+pdch@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <006001c208c8$591c3f20$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>

If that's Dobby I'm a monkey's uncle - but - never mind many thanks for the pointing out the article - particularly the vey fetching snap of Snape!

Felicia


  Run, don't walk to this link!!! A great Leaky Cauldron scoop! 

  ET weekly: http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,254304-1-
  10~1~0~,00.html 

  COS pics! and Dobby!!

  Great magazine cover too!

  Gina


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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Fri May 31 18:30:00 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 19:30:00 +0100
Subject: Observation on a deleted scene - doh????
References: <1C5C155A85@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <002501c208d1$2c9a6c20$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>

< < When Ron and Hermione are going back and forth over their 
homework in the Neville leg-lock scene....doesn't Harry 
pull a great Silent Bob moment when Ron goes off about how 
insulting the anti-cheating quills were....?

Just curious if anyone caught that, too.  :-)

Rachel Bray
The Ohio State University > > > >


OK Rachel - explain this Silent Bob business to a Brit knee-deep in the Golden Jubilee four-day holiday extravaganza......

PS I DO hope you have seen the sneek peek for CoS on the EW libk posted recently?

Felicia






From ShelaghC at aol.com  Fri May 31 19:26:04 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 19:26:04 -0000
Subject: Observation on a deleted scene - doh????
In-Reply-To: <002501c208d1$2c9a6c20$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <ad8ioc+52q2@eGroups.com>

Silent Bob is part of the team of Jay and Silent Bob created by 
director Kevin Smith in the movie "Clerks."

They have appeared in several of the director's subsequent films and 
have been the focus of many of them. (Incidentally, Kevin Smith plays 
the part of Silent Bob himself - so-named because he never says 
anything; sort of like Teller, of Penn and Teller fame.)

They have an enormous cult following here in the states. Don't know 
how well-received they are across the pond, however.

http://us.imdb.com/Name?Smith,+Kevin

Check 'em out there.

Shelagh
pedantics 'r' me



--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Felicia Rickmann" <feliciarickmann at d...> 
wrote:
> 
> OK Rachel - explain this Silent Bob business to a Brit knee-deep in 
the Golden Jubilee four-day holiday extravaganza......
> 
> PS I DO hope you have seen the sneek peek for CoS on the EW libk 
posted recently?
> 
> Felicia




From bray.262 at osu.edu  Fri May 31 15:24:48 2002
From: bray.262 at osu.edu (Rachel Bray)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 15:24:48 +0000 (EST5EDT)
Subject: Whoa!  What incredible pictures!
Message-ID: <1D55C363E8@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>

OK...I'm getting all giddy for Chamber now.  November will 
never get here!

The pictures in Entertainment Weekly are fantastic!! I'll 
need to buy extra copies so I can cut them up for my 
scrapbook!

That Slytherin statue looks fabulous!

Here's the link just in case you're not subscribed to HPfGU 
Announcements.

http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,254304-10-
10~1~0asneakpeekat~,00.html

Rachel Bray
The Ohio State University
Fees, Deposits and Disbursements

LORD OF THE SNITCH
Three men form the chaser-squad under the sky 
Seven are the teammates on their brooms of wood
Two are Bludger balls charmed to fly
One is the dork Ref all on his own
On the field of Quidditch where the Quaffles lie.
One Snitch flits over all, one grab will win it
One game may take three months, or may take but a minute
On the field of Quidditch where the Quaffles lie.

http://home.att.net/~coriolan/hpfilks.htm



From ShelaghC at aol.com  Fri May 31 19:30:53 2002
From: ShelaghC at aol.com (shelaghcol)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 19:30:53 -0000
Subject: Whoa!  What incredible pictures!
In-Reply-To: <1D55C363E8@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <ad8j1d+j15q@eGroups.com>

Well isn't this a pickle? I'm certainly glad CoS opens a full month 
before TTT so I can see it a few times before Lord of the Rings fever 
takes me over again. <g>

Great shot of Daniel/Harry on the cover of that magazine, eh?

Shelagh
trying very hard not to serve two masters.....



--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Rachel Bray <bray.262 at o...> wrote:
> OK...I'm getting all giddy for Chamber now.  November will 
> never get here!
> 
> The pictures in Entertainment Weekly are fantastic!! I'll 
> need to buy extra copies so I can cut them up for my 
> scrapbook!
> 
> That Slytherin statue looks fabulous!
> 
> Here's the link just in case you're not subscribed to HPfGU 
> Announcements.
> 
> http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,254304-10-
> 10~1~0asneakpeekat~,00.html
> 
> Rachel Bray
> The Ohio State University
> Fees, Deposits and Disbursements
> 
> LORD OF THE SNITCH
> Three men form the chaser-squad under the sky 
> Seven are the teammates on their brooms of wood
> Two are Bludger balls charmed to fly
> One is the dork Ref all on his own
> On the field of Quidditch where the Quaffles lie.
> One Snitch flits over all, one grab will win it
> One game may take three months, or may take but a minute
> On the field of Quidditch where the Quaffles lie.
> 
> http://home.att.net/~coriolan/hpfilks.htm




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Fri May 31 19:30:22 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 20:30:22 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Whoa!  What incredible pictures!
References: <1D55C363E8@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <002b01c208d9$9b9d54e0$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>

OK...I'm getting all giddy for Chamber now.  November will 
never get here!

The pictures in Entertainment Weekly are fantastic!! I'll 
need to buy extra copies so I can cut them up for my 
scrapbook!


Somebody put me out of my misery - is that magazine available in the UK - how many Handpainted Spellbooks do I have to promise to make to get one!!

Felicia again.....

Desperate having seen the CoS pictures......................


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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Fri May 31 19:33:12 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 20:33:12 +0100
Subject: DVD Movie caps
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020530185113.009ec0a0@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <003c01c208da$00e81e20$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Many thanks Martin - well done - you ARE a wizard!!!

Question.

Any more coming - like a few of Snape?

Sorry ;-)))

Felicia
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Martin Hooper 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 6:51 PM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] DVD Movie caps


  Just got the DVD Movie - Here are some screencaps...

  http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/zisp/thumbnail?id=2

  Hope you like...

  Martin J Hooper
  http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
  AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602



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From ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk  Fri May 31 20:09:17 2002
From: ch001d4564 at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin Hooper)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 21:09:17 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] DVD Movie caps
In-Reply-To: <003c01c208da$00e81e20$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020530185113.009ec0a0@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020531210831.009e9ec0@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk>

At 20:33 31/05/02, you wrote:
>Any more coming - like a few of Snape?

Yes there are a few more coming ;)  Thats only about 1/2 the movie...;)

Snape.... Maybe.. 'll see what I can do...


Martin J Hooper
http://www.martinjh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
AIM: Martinjh99 ICQ: 43933602




From saitaina at wizzards.net  Fri May 31 20:31:25 2002
From: saitaina at wizzards.net (Saitaina)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 13:31:25 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Observation on a deleted scene -(Silent Bob and Teller)
References: <ad8ioc+52q2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <004401c208e2$23707980$204e28d1@oemcomputer>

shelagh wrote-

<They have appeared in several of the director's subsequent films and 
have been the focus of many of them. (Incidentally, Kevin Smith plays 
the part of Silent Bob himself - so-named because he never says 
anything; sort of like Teller, of Penn and Teller fame.)>

I hate to correct you but as a fan of both Penn and Teller and Silent Bob, both have spoken.  Silent Bob speaks in Chasing Amy in his one spoken piece which just brought the whole movie around.  

Teller spoke in a Comedy Central special showing the pain when a joke failed when he told the audience to "laugh, he wasn't the first Teller Penn's gone through"  (They were doing one of their more...bloody shows, quite funny actually).  

Kevin Smith usually doesn't speak due to the fact he simply doesn't like to.  Teller's non speaking is a running gag that was even bought to the television series "Sabrina the Teenage Witch" when he played Skippy, the Overlord's Underling (Penn played Drell, the head of the Witches Council in many episodes).

Saitaina
Who supplies more information then actually needed.
*****
"Good laws derive from evil habits." -Macrobius

"The mystery of goverment is not how Washington works, but how to make it stop."-"Parlement of Whores"
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: shelaghcol 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:26 PM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Observation on a deleted scene - doh????


  Silent Bob is part of the team of Jay and Silent Bob created by 
  director Kevin Smith in the movie "Clerks."

  They have appeared in several of the director's subsequent films and 
  have been the focus of many of them. (Incidentally, Kevin Smith plays 
  the part of Silent Bob himself - so-named because he never says 
  anything; sort of like Teller, of Penn and Teller fame.)

  They have an enormous cult following here in the states. Don't know 
  how well-received they are across the pond, however.

  http://us.imdb.com/Name?Smith,+Kevin

  Check 'em out there.

  Shelagh
  pedantics 'r' me



  --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Felicia Rickmann" <feliciarickmann at d...> 
  wrote:
  > 
  > OK Rachel - explain this Silent Bob business to a Brit knee-deep in 
  the Golden Jubilee four-day holiday extravaganza......
  > 
  > PS I DO hope you have seen the sneek peek for CoS on the EW libk 
  posted recently?
  > 
  > Felicia


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From prefectmarcus at yahoo.com  Fri May 31 22:19:22 2002
From: prefectmarcus at yahoo.com (prefectmarcus)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 22:19:22 -0000
Subject: Nitpick on the EW pictures
Message-ID: <ad8sta+8ud3@eGroups.com>

How did the grafitti get so high?

Otherwise they look very good.  I love the cover shot.  Harry's a bit 
worse for wear, isn't he.  :)






From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Fri May 31 23:26:17 2002
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 18:26:17 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Nitpick on the EW pictures
References: <ad8sta+8ud3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3CF80699.A994F74@kingwoodcable.com>

prefectmarcus wrote:

> How did the grafitti get so high?
>
> Otherwise they look very good.  I love the cover shot.  Harry's a bit
> worse for wear, isn't he.  :)

The picture that bothered me was the one of Dobby. He looks sort of grotesque to me.

I like the picture of Harry standing on a floor with snakes heads on either side. I'm looking forward to this next
movie.

-Katze





From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Fri May 31 20:49:06 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 21:49:06 +0100
Subject: Silent Bob and Teller + Felicia still baffled - Ah well.....
References: <ad8ioc+52q2@eGroups.com> <004401c208e2$23707980$204e28d1@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <002701c208e4$9b2a46c0$77c6bc3e@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Teller spoke in a Comedy Central special showing the pain when a joke failed when he told the audience to "laugh, he wasn't the first Teller Penn's gone through"  (They were doing one of their more...bloody shows, quite funny actually).  

Kevin Smith usually doesn't speak due to the fact he simply doesn't like to.  Teller's non speaking is a running gag that was even bought to the television series "Sabrina the Teenage Witch" when he played Skippy, the Overlord's Underling (Penn played Drell, the head of the Witches Council in many episodes).

Saitaina
Who supplies more information then actually needed.

One of these days I'm just going to have to stop reading and drawing and designing textiles and computing and seeing Alan Rickman in the theatre all the time and watch some TV.  I have never seen Penn & Teller (or Sabrina) although I caught a bit of Buffy the Vampire Slayer erm - once....... (sorry).

Saitaina I need all the info I can get.  Silent Bob is stil lsot on me despite the excellent help (erm....)

Gotta go - I want to talk to my HarryPotter DVD again.....

Felicia

Happy Jubilee (to fellow Brits.....!!!!)




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